January 8, 2026 • 40 mins
Longtime NBA Analyst/Insider Ric Bucher joins the Knuckleheads for all the latest on Trae Young getting traded, LeBron James not playing back-to back games and much more. Plus, Ric shares when he thinks Rick Carlisle will pick up win number 1000!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome in Side hour three The Jason Smith Show
with my bes friend Mike Harmon. Ah, the Spurs putting
the finishing touches on what is going to be a
one oh seven ninety one win over the Lakers. Lakers
playing tonight without Lebron James, who basically sat out because
he's old. Yeah, I mean these are his words, yeah,
(00:51):
back to back in me, I don't know they go together.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm forty one. What do you want from me? Your Spurs?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
But uh uh, you know, looking at the game on
here and they're using and the Spurs use their uh
their N season tournament floor tonight right with all the
with all the different things on it. You know what
it reminds me of and I couldn't think of it.
But yeah, I look at the floor and you see
all the and I don't know what all the different
UH designs are supposed to to, uh, you know, commemorate.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm for tied. I don't know what they are, but
you know what they look like is remember that game
Perfection when you're a kid, where where it was the
timer and you had to take all the little pieces
and put them in the right thing and then if
you didn't do it in time, it exploded. Yeah, Like,
that's what the it looks like. That's where some of
those pieces are. It looks like some of those pieces,
Like that's what the shape of the that that that
(01:38):
are in on the floor look like pieces from Perfection.
I like that. Yeah, that's what I'm like. Oh it's
a Perfection floor. Okay, great, that's funny. Uh it looks
like right now, speaking of Perfection, UH, there's a bit
of a back and forth at center court following the game. Uh.
They ESPN had to delay the interview with when Be
(02:00):
following the UH Spurs win just seconds ago. Looked like
members of the Spurs, remember the Lakers, drawn back and
forth and jaded. Vanderbilt might have been in the middle
of it. Now, no punch is thrown or anything else,
but it definitely looked like there was some yapping going
on back and forth between both sides.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
We also kind of looked like they were trying to delay,
and they were a little salty, Vanderbilt in particular, because
they have the victory drum that they bang for their
you know, and they bring out the giant gong looking
thing after after home victories, and he was kind of
getting in the way of that. Wow, most of the
guys were standing around laughing and he's getting held back.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
But were they laughing or were they going, Hey, everybody,
I'm gonna kick your ass, but I'm gonna smile and
a smile and be really nice courts? Yeah, yeah, like
Jimmy Dugan from a league of their own kiss my
my big.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Wait.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Wait, so again, the Spurs went on their court on
the perfection court should say that the perfection court, with perfection,
you gotta move up fast, move up fast before the
pieces pop out, before you put in the last And
that's perfection. I mean, really something jingled diffection, I still remember,
that's pretty good. This is when toys used to run
(03:13):
jingles and commercials all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well and repetition be singing it at the dinner table
when your parents would go, you are watching way too
much television.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Ja wait, just just think about that one. Think about
pop gun. What the hell are you singing? When at
execs would sell would sell packages, going hey, what do
you what do you have for this week? Yeah, okay,
we're gonna We're gonna BUYU. We want forty five commercials
in the ten o'clock hour Monday through Friday, going into locals.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, great, great, we'll get them. We'll get that toy.
We'll get Perfections. It's it's gonna be Christmas. We'll get
three Perfection commercials in every single night. We'll get it
for Dynasty. We'll get it for Falcon Crest. We'll put
it in for Dallas. We'll put it in for Knats Landing. Wow,
what am I missing? We'll put it in for the Colbys.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Get cold? Did I get off? Did I get you
Colby's in? That's impressive, wasn't there? Was there the Carringtons too?
They do the Carringtons. They might have Okay, Colby's definitely
worth it. Okay, because they just had the anniversary of
that a few weeks ago, and this week there's the
Big Hollywood Show where they get a bunch of folks
in the convention center that were stars in the sixties, seventies, eighties, whatever,
(04:21):
yea autographs. Yeah, Joan Collins's gonna be there.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Wow, okay, because she was also on guess this Batman
back in the sixties.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Batman. I'm Batman. So I mean look at that, I'm Batman.
You know you want to there? Oh wow, you can
buy perfection? Very nice? My card? How about that? Very nice?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Now you want to know something really crazy, I'll tell
you this story really fat just thinking about Dynasty. So
I never got to watch those shows when I was
a kid. Right, I never got to watch because they
were on too late. Right, they were on at ten
o'clock at night, and I I you know, I had
to go to bed and I couldn't watch anything.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
See.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Those are the only exceptions my mother would make. Yes,
really no, no, you I want to watch dopey soap operas.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I watch.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You're like, well, I want to stay up late. Okay,
I get to watch Dallas because I think Dallas was
Sunday nights at nine. Right, this is where and this
is where when I was I'm like, uh, I like
to watch Dallas. Why because I like Charlene Tilton and
Victoria Principal.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I really doesn't love Victor Charlene Tilton and Victoria Principle.
But it was really I never think because my grandmother
used to watch Dynasty and and I was, Okay, this
is really weird. But so I'm like nine, ten years
old whatever, and I realized, oh, is it Charlie Tilton
this show? No, but she had watched Dynasty, and for
some reason, one night I was able to stay up
(05:37):
late and I got my first glimpse of Linda Evans,
and I was like, wow, I think I like Linda
Evans most of all. And my grandmother was just so
floored by that because Victoria Principal and Charlie Tilton were
like in their mid twenties, so they get you know,
they were the twelve like Linda Evans at that point,
I think was in her forties. And I'm like nine years,
ten years old you and I remember Grandma looking at
(05:58):
me going, you like Linda Evan yet, like she was
so glamorous, her hair was great, she was here tugar,
I love it. And I remember I could.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Hear her one time on the phone with my mom,
like a couple of days later, saying he really wanted
to watch Dynasty. He really liked Linda Evans, Gloria Jean
uh did the she is? Is that okay going?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
She was thirty nine in the uh in the first
A little weird bock. Yeah, I like Linda Evans. Oh yeah,
you like what you like? Man? Uh? You all listed
the hottest people from soaps of the eighties right now,
eight seven cents.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
We can we can get responses. And how about a
fresco at swollen up? You want to add? Sit comes in,
bring it in, Ash.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Charlen Tilt the Victoria principle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh so
today Jim Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh, the Harbor.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
With Jim, the one that's still employed, Jimmy Jimmy by Jim.
Jim Harball weighed in on the employment status of his
brother John uh Ball, who of course was let go
as as Raven's head coach after eighteen years and now
doing the circuit to interview for his next head coaching guts.
(07:07):
Did you see the bit that was being reported that
it had to be termed a firing because otherwise it
was going to cost him fifty five.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Million dollars again, because it was what did we say
when it first comes out? It was they've mutually decided
to part ways and an hour later, no, he's fired.
Wait wait something what happened in that hour? And now
we know we said it last night. We're ahead of
the car.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
We're financial guys, we're ahead of the cuts financially. We
knew there's something up here with why that was changed
after because it can't be where suddenly we hate Jim Hart,
we hate John Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
There's something that happened there and now you know, oh wait, wait,
we were on the we're on the hook for that
money money. We fired him? Ye say, we fired him.
So Jim Harbaugh waited in today on John's employment future,
and maybe he's trying to make it happen, putting out
there in the universe what he hopes happens for his
brother for next year. Coach.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I know, that's coach I've ever seen. And he may say, okay,
well I'm his brother, so I might be biased, but uh, well,
then you have somebody like Tony Dungee. Wouldn't we all
like that, you know, wouldn't we all like somebody like
Tony Dungee, especially Tony Dungee himself to you know, say
(08:21):
that it's just it's it's great, you know, seeing that
kind of outpouring and uh of support and also just
it's just so cool see all my brother's accomplishments, you know,
and be and be recognized for that. And you know,
I just as I told him, you know what, whatever
team he goes to is going to be formidable.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And I just hope it's in the NFC. So I
hope it's in the NFC. Now as coaches are starting
to make their rounds, we'll start to play matchmaker here
because it's one of the most fun things to do. Sure,
and right now it looks like Kevin Stefanski potentially John
Harbaugh at the top of the list for the Giants,
(09:01):
But that's not the fit I see for John Harbaugh.
Harbaugh is someone who what have we seen him do
over the last eighteen years? Right, He was able to
in a never ending changing of skill position players to
keep the Ravens at the top of the AFC. They
never got over the top in the Lamar Jackson era.
(09:23):
But he's a pretty good offensive coach. He's got a
pretty good cachet. He's got a Super Bowl and he's
got the current. Hey, guess what coaching Lamar Jackson last year. Now,
maybe they didn't want him anymore, Okay, but we've seen
him succeed. The best fit for him is in Atlanta.
Atlanta needs someone with that cachet that gets all this
(09:45):
young talent and can smooth out all the questions you have.
Is it Michael Pennix Junior? Is he great? What do
you do with Kirk Cousins. You gotta find a way
to get all this talent on the same page. Because
doing things like beating the Bills and the last week,
you know, winning the last couple of weeks after you know,
falling on their face middle of the season, you know
the Falcons have the talent, right, It's not suddenly where Hey,
(10:07):
you know they're not as good as we thought they were.
You saw over the course, say, oh no, the Falcons
are town. They have the best running back in the NFL.
So you need someone with that cachet that everybody will
listen to, that will come in with a system and
an idea that's going to get everybody on the same page. Hey,
this guy knows what he was doing. He just had
how many AFC North Division titles, He's won the Super Bowl,
(10:30):
He's coached Lamar Jackson. He knows what it is to
coach a modern NFL offense. We've seen him do it. Yes,
snake bit sometimes a missed field goal, he still has
his job. A catch by Mark Andrews in the playoffs
last year, maybe he has his job too. Less interceptions
two years ago by Lamar Jackson, Maybe he's got his job.
So the Falcons being a team that, hey, you need
(10:51):
someone with cache to someone come in and listen to,
because not anybody can go in there in Atlanta because
again I told you, Atlanta's not the job you think
it is, because you're not set up to succeed because
there's a lot of issues. So when you have someone
coming in that, oh right away, Bang, I'll flip the switch.
He's a guy I'll follow, right. Jim John Harbaugh is
that guy for at Land. He's a much better fitment Land. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I think a lot of it becomes who's you want
to bring in as is coordinator? Right, originally special teams guy,
and you talk about, you know, never really bottoming out.
They had a couple of rough goes over eighteen years.
But for the most part you're up near double digit wins.
And part of the acrimony and where we're at and
(11:32):
what's real, what's imagined, how much we're players.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
You know, you can still be sad, still want someone gone, right.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I think a lot of relationships out of like I
love you, but this doesn't work for XYZ. You know,
it's the same thing here with Harball. People are like, oh,
I refute it because the players were crying. No, they
might have personal relationship with this guy, and it's just
it was time to move on Atlanta. Hiring a consulting
firm to help kind of run everything is problematic. That
(12:00):
always gets a little bit mealy and problematic and all
of that. But you got me Jean Robinson, You got
Kirk Cousins to restructure his deal. You have a defense
that looks like it could fly around and be pretty good.
Maybe one of more pieces there. You gotta figure out
whether Kyle Pitts comes back, if you're gonna franchise, tag
him or pay him top of market. So there's a
(12:22):
lot of decisions to be made. But of all the jobs,
if the Giants isn't I mean the Giants is just
the de facto outside of dealing with ownership, which seems
like that's kind of divolved from once at what it
once was in terms of those relationships. Even though they
keep Joe Shane. Do you want to work with Joe Shane?
(12:44):
Does his track record say I want to work with
this guy?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I don't know. I'm gonna call you Ld? Why call
me Ld? I'm js no LD, lame duck. I'm calling you.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Like if I go in there and I can say,
all right, you blow that guy out, and I.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Joe Shane has brought in a lot of talent. So
I get why Joe Shane keeping his job of the
two of them, I get it because, well, whoever comes
in is coming in ready made with a lot of talent. Yeah,
he ended up being the fall guy for that whole
Saquon Barkley thing that looked a lot worse on the
hard Knocks than it actually was. But yeah, I mean
Atlanta again, we go to a division where you can
go and win, Like, I think that's the bottom line.
(13:18):
You're looking at the board and saying I can go
take this division over. Yeah, I'm telling you. The fit
for John Harbaugh the Atlanta Falcons. Go Harbag, go Harball.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Go Yeah, No, I don't immediately look and go, Hey,
did the Chargers play the Falcons next year?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
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Speaker 2 (15:26):
Man?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Man?
Speaker 7 (15:28):
You must be reading my email because you are not
joking when it comes to the Joe Burrow nervousness.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I mean, at least it's not college football where they're
not called it.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I mean, maybe Mike Brown is calling people for money.
I mean, I wouldn't put it past them, but I mean,
at least that's not happening.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's But trust me, Bengals fan, I
would say, you can tell the Bengals fan in any
room you walk into because they're just pure Scar tissue.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I sit next to a Jets fan, I know that one. Rick.
Tough times, Yeah, tough times. Life is tough out in
these football streets, you know, very defensive.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
Indeed, indeed, that's why that's why we're talking basketball.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah. Okay, so let's start with this because I know,
when I woke up this morning, I thought it was
an Onion headline that Trey Young's preferred destination was the
Washington Wizards. No, no, No, that happened, gets Delta Knight,
CJ McCollum, a role player head to Atlanta. I don't
know what I'm more surprised about, Rick, the fact that
there was wasn't more interest in Trey Young, or the
(16:30):
fact that Trey Young wanted to go to Washington, who
hasn't been above five hundred and nine years.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Yeah, well, you know what, it's a little bit like
the Christmas shift. You know when when your when your
favorite aunt gives you that argyle sweater and you're like.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
This is my favorite sweater ever, it's the only sweater
that you got Christmas.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
So like, I mean, that's that's that's a big part
of it here where he's trying to put the best
face on it. He knew that there weren't any other bidders.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
I mean, that's that's obvious.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
I don't I don't know who insulted who more today
the Atlanta Hawks in saying uh c J. McCollum and
Corey Kisbert for for Trey Young, bring.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
It on, we will take that deal.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Or the San Antonio Spurs in the way they approached
the Los Angeles Lakers and said, well, you know what,
we'll just we'll play with our food for a little bit.
But you know, we're we're not we're not anticipating any
sort of a challenge tonight. And indeed they didn't get one.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
So it is striking.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
It is striking, but it doesn't I guess it doesn't
surprise me because I've been I've been hearing this for
a while and and you know, the strength part is
that they got c J. McCollum and Corey Kisbert for
Trey Young the right now, the Memphis Grizzlies can't get
anything for John Like there is no talk about anybody
(18:05):
making an offer for him. And if you would ask me,
like maybe a year ago, certainly anytime prior to this season,
who I thought was the better point guard or more valuable,
I would have said.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
John Morant, no question.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
But it just goes to show.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
Like we're in a place now with the NBA, the
amount of money that is being paid to franchise or
cornerstone guys or who guys who think they are, that
makes people.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
A little more aware of what kind.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Of teammate are they. And Treyon wasn't a bad teammate.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
But he's not a leader.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
What I've been told by people who played with them,
people who coached him, is that he's just very aloof
And if you're going to pay a guy maximum dollar
and he's gonna have the ball in his hands all
the time, then you want somebody to guys want to
play play for and play with.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
And Trey is one of those guys.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Who he gets very good offensive stats. But there are
only a handful of guys who are so good offensively
that their teammates and everybody else says, you know what,
this guy's so.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Good offensively, will put up with what he doesn't.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Give us defensively. Trey's not good enough offensively for that.
And now they've cycled out several iterations of this team
thinking we just need to get the right guys around Trey.
You know, they moved out deanre Hunter and bugging Bugdanovich,
and then they realized, okay, we'll wait a minute, Like
(19:41):
Jalen Johnson and Dyson aren't having Daniels, aren't having a
great time playing with him, Maybe we need to change
something else, Maybe we need to change the flagpole here.
And so's that's ultimately what you're seeing. And what will
be very interesting is to see what the Washington Wizards
are willing to offer him because he went there.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
You know, the question is is is an extension?
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Is the money that he wanted already negotiated? Was that
negotiated prior to this deal being made, you know, in
the back room, Because that's one big reason why Trey
Young would say, you know what, don't want to go
to the Washington Wizards.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
I know, I know what they're willing to give me.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Down the line.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, looking at it right, a player option of almost
fifty million for next year, and you start looking at
that next deal for a guy who's shooting percentage gets
lower and lower, like the temperatures in Washington.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
End that player option and the nice sweater he got
for Christmas, the only ones.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Those are Guyle right, coming back in Fashion Fellows.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I'm telling you it was a good movie.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
By the way, if you want to go down that
spy thing with Henry cavill, All right, let's talk about Lebron.
He's now he's missing games and he's flat out just
telling you he's old.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Rick, Yeah, I mean he is old times.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
He tells us a lot of things, and the one
thing that I would agree with him on.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Is if he's old.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
I mean he told us, he told us, you know what,
I can play.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
I can play anyway I have to because I don't
have any holds in my game. I'm like, are we
not counting? Defense is one of the things you have
to have to play this game?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
No, what are we? What are we talking about here?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
So no, Look, the last thing I'm going to do
is question.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Lebron James at this point in his career, it is
all It's all gravy at forty one. I do wonder
about the timing of various things that he says. And
the big one for me is, you know, being on
the podcast first of all, the combination of him and
(21:52):
his podcast and Rich Paul and the podcast that he's doing.
I'm like, man, what did you know?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Did you know that Michael Jordan the only reason people liked.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
His shoes is because because they like guys who've.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Got girls and drove BMW's.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I mean, it was just.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Paul's explanation for why Michael Jordan's shoes were popular.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
And then Lebron Is saying, hey, you know what, we're.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
In an age now where you know, the having a
player playing ISO and having a guy dominate the ball.
You know, that's really not going to work in today's game.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And I'm like, why don't you just say Luca's.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Name out loud?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I mean, so when you say when you say you're
thinking about the timing of things, he's saying for what,
Because Lebron is I was very calculated. What is what
does he want to get out here with some of
the things.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
He's saying, Well, I mean, look, I do think that
then this has been for a while now that there's
sort of this passive aggressive Okay.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
You know what, I'm no longer.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
The feature guy, and Luca's you know, everybody's peaches and cream,
and let's let's just see how he does. Let's let's
let's everybody get.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
A taste of that.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
And I just I think he's struggling with the idea
that he's not the central character anymore. And he can
do a lot of things to try to paper that
over at times, but the reality is, and I don't in.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Some ways, I can appreciate it because since.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
The time he's been fifteen or sixteen, everybody has done
his bidding.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
He has been the guy, and now he's not.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And I just think he's he's struggling with.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Coming to terms with that.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
But I just I think there are so many different
ways that he could handle this where it would be
far more graceful, I mean, the whole technically, He's right,
like ISO ball, high usage with an individual player is
not where the game is going. The game is going
to far more of a European style, depth, versatility, move
(24:03):
the ball, multiple scorers, you know, the kind of the
way that the oka see has played. I'd say the
last four or five champions have been like that. But
he could have said, hey, you know what, I've benefited
from a time I was able to go to win championships.
Luca was able to take Dallas to a championship playing
that style. I'm not sure that that style is still
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going to work now going forward. That would be a
far different thing than the sort of the veiled you know,
this iso ball just doesn't It doesn't work anymore, not
acknowledging Lebron.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You played iso ball for like fifteen.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
Years, so I usedge iso ball. I mean, can we
acknowledge that that was the strength of your game for
the last fifteen years or so. I just think he
could approach things a lot different and we would. I
think everybody would appreciate him. On the way out, I
(25:00):
just have too many people who are hearing, you know,
the podcast, and all of it seems to be, you know,
trying to fluff.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
His pillow on the way out, and and people.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
Are like, you know what, can we just we're ready
to turn the page. And I don't like to see
that for a guy who's been around as long as
he has, and has done as much as he has
to go out and to have people saying, yeah, you
know what, we're ready for a new We're ready for
a new face.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Of the league, you know, and you say that, and
we talked about this early in the show. Is I
see Lebron on the sideline. He's not playing.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's just sad that this is the guy who's meant
everything to the league for two decades. This is how
he's going out if this is clearly the end for him,
And I start wondering that well, as the Lakers get
closer to the deadline and they see things that are
working not working, Lebron doesn't want to go out this way,
I could potentially see there being some so you got
(25:56):
a science the hell out of it. But I could see where, hey,
for half a season, Bron goes back to Cleveland and
gets the King's farewell and maybe he lifts them up
in the Eastern Conference, but if not, he gets to
say goodbye and he gets the kind of half season
farewell tour. Any Way, you could see a scenario like
that unfolding.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Well, you know, the fact that the Calves have not
been great this year cracks the door on that.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
It makes it.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
I don't want to say it's possible. I don't see
a way in which it really happens. But it opens
the door to would the Calves be crazy enough to
do that? Because it would be crazy at this point,
what's the benefit. There's a benefit to Lebron to go
back to Cleveland. I don't know that there's a benefit
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for the Calves in terms of they would have to
give up players that have contracts that match Lebron and
and then he's run, he's walking off in the sunset.
It wouldn't because it wouldn't be because he's going to
make them better. It would be just for the opportunity
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for him to say goodbye or close the door in
the place that he started. And I I you know
I if the Calves were playing the way they were
last year, I'd say absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
There's no there's no chance.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
And by the way, that's another that's another Rich paulism.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
If you will, like Chris.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Paul, Lebron would make any team better.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Like No, he wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
No, he know he would not not at this stage
of his career, he's not going to make a lot
of the championship teams would not be better with the
addition of Lebron James.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
And as much as the Calves are struggling right now,
I would put them in on that list of teams
that wouldn't be wouldn't improve if they made a deal
for Lebron James, in part because of what they'd have
to give.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Up as league.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
For you, talking about sad, sad circumstances, Rick Carlisle, what's
the over under on when.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
That thousandth win actually shows up?
Speaker 8 (28:09):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Man, I know it's been uh, it's been a tough year,
but think about think about this. I always think about
Rick Carlisle in Indiana, going back to Indiana Indianapolis.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
And for those and I.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Know I'm taking kind of a left turn here, but
for those who you know are are thinking, man, Dallas
traded Luka Doncic, Like, how could they trade Luka Doncic?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Rick Carlisle.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Left the Dallas Mavericks and went to Indianapolis.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
To get to get away from Luka Doncich.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
When somebody does that.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
It makes me think, huh, like wow, that he must
be He must be tough to deal.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
With at times.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So look, Rick, Rick, this is this has.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Been a very tough year on the flip side of it,
and nobody saw last year coming for the Indiana.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Pacers, so I kind of put this.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I put this year in the same category for the
Indiana Pacers as I do the UH the year after
the Warriors went to the finals UH and lost to
Toronto where they sell off a cliff.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
And I would and then you know, it took him
a year.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Two, but they were they were back at it. I
would fully expect that that that's going to be the case.
I'm hoping that it won't be two years before in
before Rick Carlisle gets his.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Gets his one thousand twins.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
So I hope that for my man.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Rick, I think I think Rick Baker just went down
the whole thing of Rick Carlisle, went down to the crossroads,
came up just with the title and had to give
up this year.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Well we you know.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, That is at Rick
Buker the On the Ball podcast as well. Rick is
always buddy, Appreciate it man, Happy New Year. We'll talk
to you next week.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
We're not going to talk about the chemistry spilled that
the New York Knicks are right now.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
But Rick, let me just tell you this I don't
know why we're still playing basketball. I watched the Knicks
win the championship. There was confetti, hats and T shirts,
but they continue to play. So okay, But I mean
I watched us win the championship. It's fine.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Good good point, good point.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
I think south Park. I think south Park predicted that.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Actually, Rick Baker, take it easy, buddy, We'll talk to
you there.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Rick.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I just keep thinking about how Rick Carlisle left Dallas
to get await from Luca dots.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
No, it's true though, right.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I mean, there's lots of noise behind there and Lebron
this becomesy. We know he's difficult to deal with, but
now he's taking his shots at Luca. Hey, we all
need to fit around him and we're revolving in his world.
That was the worst part of Lebron's comments last night.
So yeah, chaotic world and the crossroads for Rick Carlin
(31:10):
exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon tim that
to find out what's trending in the wild water sports
From a guy who left Detroit to get away from
Joe Dumars.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's Martin Wiss.
Speaker 9 (31:23):
Ironically enough, two weeks living in Los Angeles, one of
the first people I had dinner with was Rob Parker
and Joe Tubars. Wow, seriously, I have Brent Wood go
figure so he couldn't get away from him, right exactly,
followed me.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
All right, what I say? And now to a guy
who had to leave Detroit because he wanted to get
away from Bill aim Beer, it's.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
Martin Weiss, you know, funny it numbs. Second guy, I
had dinner with the Atlanta Hawks. I've traded Trey Young
to the Washington Wizards. Wizards sending c J McCollum and
Corey Kispert back to Atlanta. The Spurs beat the Lakers
one oh seven to ninety one. Victor webben Ya, I'm
a sixteen points, fourteen rebound double double San Antonio seven
and one in games when Winby comes off the bench,
(32:04):
Luca docs with a thirty eight point, ten assist, ten
rebound triple double. Only two other Lakers finished in double figures,
to the point that was making earlier Let's first kind
of play with their food a bit. Benston's improved to
twenty eight and nine fifteen to three at home within
a one oh eight to ninety three win over the Bulls.
Kate Cunningham did not play he's nursing me risch injury.
(32:24):
Isaiah Stewart chipped in a career high thirty one points.
Joel Embiid with twenty eight points seven rebounds to seventy
six ers beat. The Wizards won thirty one to one ten.
Paolo Banko hit a game winning bank shot in the overtime.
It beat the Nets one oh four to one oh three.
Ben Carol finished with thirty points thirteen rebounds four Orlando
as the Magic at the win. The Jazz pushed the
(32:45):
Thunder to overtime, but the defending champions victorious one twenty
nine to one twenty five. Shay Gilds Alexander had twenty
six points, I'm sorry, excuse me, forty six points, my bad,
six rebounds and six assists. Chad Holmgren had twenty three points.
And the Kansas City Chiefs have issued a statement acknowledging
that they are aware that Rashi Rice wide receiver has
(33:07):
been accused of committing domestic violence and we'll investigate further.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Thatlls back to you, Thanks a bunch, Martin, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We
got more basketball on the way. We'll break down the
Tray Young trade. But coming up next, Big Football News
Today says something not great about one high profile, underachieving
and disappointing team. It's not the Jets. That's next right here,
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Jason and Mike. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. Hey, do you know a
place where I can get all of these great seventy
song and one great collection?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Now you do, David Radio Stone Unturned tonight on a Wednesday.
You'll get hits like Long Train Running by the Brothers
Al Stewart, Year of the Cat. That's a classic, right there,
hear of the can Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from
(34:11):
the Fox Sports Radio Studios, both both part of the
record collection Under the Bart.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I'm just just waiting for the air supply guys to come.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
On and go, Hey, yeah, you get all these great
power ballads of the seventies and one great place on set,
the seven CD.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Collection make it love out of nothing at all? Uh So,
Big NFL News Today, and then look the last couple
of days has been dominated by obviously the coaches getting
fired and who's out getting interviewed.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
In different places, but players who are now hitting the
transfer portal, going back to school or re signing with
their school, or headed to the NFL, or fighting with
their school. This is true, It's true. There's lots of
permutations to this. But you want to know who the
most disappointing team in college football was this year, and
it's not even closide of Syracuse.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Not dude. We lost Evangeli. We lost everything. Okay, we
were great and then we lost defense. We lost a
lot of games. He's really he's showered a ton. He
got a ton. Michigan Michigan.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Uh No, Michigan won all the game thing we're supposed
to win, and they lost the games that were supposed
to lose.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Oh but they thought they were out of the scandal.
It was a very predictable season for Michigan. Jason is
a USC. It is not come on the US. Well,
no one play away US. He lives in disappointment.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
If you had a pool called disappointment, USC would be
on the biggest float in the middle of the pool,
and nobody else could fit in it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Disappointed.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Wait till not playing Notre Dame next year bites them
in the ass and they don't get him.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Well, strength the schedule goes to hell. There you go,
But uh, two big players declared for the NFL Draft
at anytime players in the top ten declared. If the
NFL Draft is a big deal, Ohio State Caleb Downs
Cardinal Tate both headed to the NFL Draft. Ohio State is,
without a doubt, the most disappointing team in college football
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all season. Yes, any given Saturday, a team can lose.
But now with Downs going in the draft and Cardinal
Tate going in, you also have a couple of other
guys you're gonna go. You're gonna have four picks in
the top fifteen because Arville Reese is gonna go in
the top fifteen, and so is Sunny Styles. If Jeremiah
Smith was eligible, he was going, it would be five
(36:32):
guys in the top fifteen. This is the talent level
that Ohio State had. Caleb Downs is the number one
non quarterback guy I would take. Getting him is like
getting Rod Woodson, and you would want Rod Woodson, who
was on the all time NFL team. Getting Caleb Downs
He is the entire package. There's no flags, got ball skills,
(36:52):
tackling skills, intelligence, He is as perfect a player as
you can get. This is how good Caleb downs is, right,
all the awards, everything else. He's that good. But you're
talking about a team that has four guys going in
the top fifteen, and not only could did you wind
up not even winning your conference losing to Indiana, You
(37:12):
couldn't win a game in the playoff after getting a
bo I mean, come on, man, you wind up losing
to it to a team that you're scratched hed going.
How did they come in and just dominate us like that?
We have NFL talent across the board, and you lost
to Miami that way. We have the best defense in
the college football. Well guess what. Miami ran all over
you like it didn't even matter. There is no more
(37:34):
disappointing team in college football than Ohio State. Not do
you win the title every year, but this should have
been a year where it's back to back for them.
This should have been an easy back to back year, right.
Michigan last year most disappointing team in college football because
they had all that first round talent and they just
didn't get a quarterback. They didn't go on the portal
get a quarterback, and they're playing gadget guys and seventh
year seniors in walkins. That was an epic fail. But obviously,
(37:57):
you know, Sewan moorehead other things going on in his
life besides picking a quarterback, So there is that. But
they didn't pay a quarterback this year. This year for
Ohio State like this was Hey, there was no other
dominant team in college football. And when you send all
these guys to the NFL in the first round, boy,
their disappointment looks even worse when you see these guys announcing,
(38:18):
you know they're all going in the top ten.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I think some of it is look at the positions
that they play. Where did Ohio State lose? They got
beat up. They got runned over right, just on both
sides of the ball, offensive and defensive lines. And that
was one of the questions over the course of the
season was would they be tough enough. Did they beat
a bunch of paper champions and also ran squads in
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route to the record and the number two overall rankings.
So yeah, you've got this individual talent that you now
lose and the next iteration for Ryan Day to replace it.
But yeah, in terms of overall disappointment, you did what
you needed to during the regular season, but you couldn't
close out and now you're bystanders and wondering what could
(39:03):
have been. Meanwhile, you've got a bunch of boosters gun.
How big are tackles this year? How big are defensive tackles?
What are we doing to shore things up to end?
You know, are you going to be tough enough? Because
we'd heard that refrain over the course of the year
and it kind of got brushed aside because they were
winning games handily. And now you end up in the
draft and it's going to be interesting to watch that
(39:26):
that next run of things when we talk about draft
dominance and whether the big ten now that we're watching
the landscape tip in terms of the on field, does
that now translate to the draft as well, where it's
no longer here's eight guys from from Georgia and whatever.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Well, we'll think about it, because think about it from
Ohio States perspective of what else do you need? Like
this is the best roster in college football, it's an
NFL rosterthing like that, How are you gonna win next year.
You didn't win with all these guys this year, the
guy that nearly won the Heisman Trophy as well. How
are you gonna win next?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
You know what he needs to do, though, he can't
die the beard fully because it'll show he's working harder
if there's.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
More gray and the beard. Yeah, okay, I see that.
Like it also, you know, speaks to wisdom.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
You probably have endorsement deals going and you keep that
beard nice and looks dark and lush. Yeah, I mean
I and I okay, working hard endorsement deal, working hard
endorsement deal?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Peyter shoe polish eight seven seven exit a buta Fresca
exit swallowed up. No more disappointing team this year than
Ohio State. They had a good I not really didn't
well during the regular season up until the time they
needed to win. It was a good run.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, absolutely, winning time not so much coming up next.
Two huge stories out of the NBA. Right now, Jason
and Mike, you are listening to Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's give this.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome in Side hour three The Jason Smith Show
with my bes friend Mike Harmon. Ah, the Spurs putting
the finishing touches on what is going to be a
one oh seven ninety one win over the Lakers. Lakers
playing tonight without Lebron James, who basically sat out because
he's old. Yeah, I mean these are his words, yeah,
(00:51):
back to back in me, I don't know they go together.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm forty one. What do you want from me? Your Spurs?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
But uh uh, you know, looking at the game on
here and they're using and the Spurs use their uh
their N season tournament floor tonight right with all the
with all the different things on it. You know what
it reminds me of and I couldn't think of it.
But yeah, I look at the floor and you see
all the and I don't know what all the different
UH designs are supposed to to, uh, you know, commemorate.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm for tied. I don't know what they are, but
you know what they look like is remember that game
Perfection when you're a kid, where where it was the
timer and you had to take all the little pieces
and put them in the right thing and then if
you didn't do it in time, it exploded. Yeah, Like,
that's what the it looks like. That's where some of
those pieces are. It looks like some of those pieces,
Like that's what the shape of the that that that
(01:38):
are in on the floor look like pieces from Perfection.
I like that. Yeah, that's what I'm like. Oh it's
a Perfection floor. Okay, great, that's funny. Uh it looks
like right now, speaking of Perfection, UH, there's a bit
of a back and forth at center court following the game. Uh.
They ESPN had to delay the interview with when Be
(02:00):
following the UH Spurs win just seconds ago. Looked like
members of the Spurs, remember the Lakers, drawn back and
forth and jaded. Vanderbilt might have been in the middle
of it. Now, no punch is thrown or anything else,
but it definitely looked like there was some yapping going
on back and forth between both sides.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
We also kind of looked like they were trying to delay,
and they were a little salty, Vanderbilt in particular, because
they have the victory drum that they bang for their
you know, and they bring out the giant gong looking
thing after after home victories, and he was kind of
getting in the way of that. Wow, most of the
guys were standing around laughing and he's getting held back.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
But were they laughing or were they going, Hey, everybody,
I'm gonna kick your ass, but I'm gonna smile and
a smile and be really nice courts? Yeah, yeah, like
Jimmy Dugan from a league of their own kiss my
my big.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Wait.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Wait, so again, the Spurs went on their court on
the perfection court should say that the perfection court, with perfection,
you gotta move up fast, move up fast before the
pieces pop out, before you put in the last And
that's perfection. I mean, really something jingled diffection, I still remember,
that's pretty good. This is when toys used to run
(03:13):
jingles and commercials all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well and repetition be singing it at the dinner table
when your parents would go, you are watching way too
much television.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Ja wait, just just think about that one. Think about
pop gun. What the hell are you singing? When at
execs would sell would sell packages, going hey, what do
you what do you have for this week? Yeah, okay,
we're gonna We're gonna BUYU. We want forty five commercials
in the ten o'clock hour Monday through Friday, going into locals.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, great, great, we'll get them. We'll get that toy.
We'll get Perfections. It's it's gonna be Christmas. We'll get
three Perfection commercials in every single night. We'll get it
for Dynasty. We'll get it for Falcon Crest. We'll put
it in for Dallas. We'll put it in for Knats Landing. Wow,
what am I missing? We'll put it in for the Colbys.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Get cold? Did I get off? Did I get you
Colby's in? That's impressive, wasn't there? Was there the Carringtons too?
They do the Carringtons. They might have Okay, Colby's definitely
worth it. Okay, because they just had the anniversary of
that a few weeks ago, and this week there's the
Big Hollywood Show where they get a bunch of folks
in the convention center that were stars in the sixties, seventies, eighties, whatever,
(04:21):
yea autographs. Yeah, Joan Collins's gonna be there.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Wow, okay, because she was also on guess this Batman
back in the sixties.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Batman. I'm Batman. So I mean look at that, I'm Batman.
You know you want to there? Oh wow, you can
buy perfection? Very nice? My card? How about that? Very nice?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Now you want to know something really crazy, I'll tell
you this story really fat just thinking about Dynasty. So
I never got to watch those shows when I was
a kid. Right, I never got to watch because they
were on too late. Right, they were on at ten
o'clock at night, and I I you know, I had
to go to bed and I couldn't watch anything.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
See.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Those are the only exceptions my mother would make. Yes,
really no, no, you I want to watch dopey soap operas.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I watch.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You're like, well, I want to stay up late. Okay,
I get to watch Dallas because I think Dallas was
Sunday nights at nine. Right, this is where and this
is where when I was I'm like, uh, I like
to watch Dallas. Why because I like Charlene Tilton and
Victoria Principal.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I really doesn't love Victor Charlene Tilton and Victoria Principle.
But it was really I never think because my grandmother
used to watch Dynasty and and I was, Okay, this
is really weird. But so I'm like nine, ten years
old whatever, and I realized, oh, is it Charlie Tilton
this show? No, but she had watched Dynasty, and for
some reason, one night I was able to stay up
(05:37):
late and I got my first glimpse of Linda Evans,
and I was like, wow, I think I like Linda
Evans most of all. And my grandmother was just so
floored by that because Victoria Principal and Charlie Tilton were
like in their mid twenties, so they get you know,
they were the twelve like Linda Evans at that point,
I think was in her forties. And I'm like nine years,
ten years old you and I remember Grandma looking at
(05:58):
me going, you like Linda Evan yet, like she was
so glamorous, her hair was great, she was here tugar,
I love it. And I remember I could.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Hear her one time on the phone with my mom,
like a couple of days later, saying he really wanted
to watch Dynasty. He really liked Linda Evans, Gloria Jean
uh did the she is? Is that okay going?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
She was thirty nine in the uh in the first
A little weird bock. Yeah, I like Linda Evans. Oh yeah,
you like what you like? Man? Uh? You all listed
the hottest people from soaps of the eighties right now,
eight seven cents.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
We can we can get responses. And how about a
fresco at swollen up? You want to add? Sit comes in,
bring it in, Ash.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Charlen Tilt the Victoria principle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh so
today Jim Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh, the Harbor.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
With Jim, the one that's still employed, Jimmy Jimmy by Jim.
Jim Harball weighed in on the employment status of his
brother John uh Ball, who of course was let go
as as Raven's head coach after eighteen years and now
doing the circuit to interview for his next head coaching guts.
(07:07):
Did you see the bit that was being reported that
it had to be termed a firing because otherwise it
was going to cost him fifty five.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Million dollars again, because it was what did we say
when it first comes out? It was they've mutually decided
to part ways and an hour later, no, he's fired.
Wait wait something what happened in that hour? And now
we know we said it last night. We're ahead of
the car.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
We're financial guys, we're ahead of the cuts financially. We
knew there's something up here with why that was changed
after because it can't be where suddenly we hate Jim Hart,
we hate John Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
There's something that happened there and now you know, oh wait, wait,
we were on the we're on the hook for that
money money. We fired him? Ye say, we fired him.
So Jim Harbaugh waited in today on John's employment future,
and maybe he's trying to make it happen, putting out
there in the universe what he hopes happens for his
brother for next year. Coach.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I know, that's coach I've ever seen. And he may say, okay,
well I'm his brother, so I might be biased, but uh, well,
then you have somebody like Tony Dungee. Wouldn't we all
like that, you know, wouldn't we all like somebody like
Tony Dungee, especially Tony Dungee himself to you know, say
(08:21):
that it's just it's it's great, you know, seeing that
kind of outpouring and uh of support and also just
it's just so cool see all my brother's accomplishments, you know,
and be and be recognized for that. And you know,
I just as I told him, you know what, whatever
team he goes to is going to be formidable.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And I just hope it's in the NFC. So I
hope it's in the NFC. Now as coaches are starting
to make their rounds, we'll start to play matchmaker here
because it's one of the most fun things to do. Sure,
and right now it looks like Kevin Stefanski potentially John
Harbaugh at the top of the list for the Giants,
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But that's not the fit I see for John Harbaugh.
Harbaugh is someone who what have we seen him do
over the last eighteen years? Right, He was able to
in a never ending changing of skill position players to
keep the Ravens at the top of the AFC. They
never got over the top in the Lamar Jackson era.
(09:23):
But he's a pretty good offensive coach. He's got a
pretty good cachet. He's got a Super Bowl and he's
got the current. Hey, guess what coaching Lamar Jackson last year. Now,
maybe they didn't want him anymore, Okay, but we've seen
him succeed. The best fit for him is in Atlanta.
Atlanta needs someone with that cachet that gets all this
(09:45):
young talent and can smooth out all the questions you have.
Is it Michael Pennix Junior? Is he great? What do
you do with Kirk Cousins. You gotta find a way
to get all this talent on the same page. Because
doing things like beating the Bills and the last week,
you know, winning the last couple of weeks after you know,
falling on their face middle of the season, you know
the Falcons have the talent, right, It's not suddenly where Hey,
(10:07):
you know they're not as good as we thought they were.
You saw over the course, say, oh no, the Falcons
are town. They have the best running back in the NFL.
So you need someone with that cachet that everybody will
listen to, that will come in with a system and
an idea that's going to get everybody on the same page. Hey,
this guy knows what he was doing. He just had
how many AFC North Division titles, He's won the Super Bowl,
(10:30):
He's coached Lamar Jackson. He knows what it is to
coach a modern NFL offense. We've seen him do it. Yes,
snake bit sometimes a missed field goal, he still has
his job. A catch by Mark Andrews in the playoffs
last year, maybe he has his job too. Less interceptions
two years ago by Lamar Jackson, Maybe he's got his job.
So the Falcons being a team that, hey, you need
(10:51):
someone with cache to someone come in and listen to,
because not anybody can go in there in Atlanta because
again I told you, Atlanta's not the job you think
it is, because you're not set up to succeed because
there's a lot of issues. So when you have someone
coming in that, oh right away, Bang, I'll flip the switch.
He's a guy I'll follow, right. Jim John Harbaugh is
that guy for at Land. He's a much better fitment Land. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I think a lot of it becomes who's you want
to bring in as is coordinator? Right, originally special teams guy,
and you talk about, you know, never really bottoming out.
They had a couple of rough goes over eighteen years.
But for the most part you're up near double digit wins.
And part of the acrimony and where we're at and
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what's real, what's imagined, how much we're players.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
You know, you can still be sad, still want someone gone, right.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I think a lot of relationships out of like I
love you, but this doesn't work for XYZ. You know,
it's the same thing here with Harball. People are like, oh,
I refute it because the players were crying. No, they
might have personal relationship with this guy, and it's just
it was time to move on Atlanta. Hiring a consulting
firm to help kind of run everything is problematic. That
(12:00):
always gets a little bit mealy and problematic and all
of that. But you got me Jean Robinson, You got
Kirk Cousins to restructure his deal. You have a defense
that looks like it could fly around and be pretty good.
Maybe one of more pieces there. You gotta figure out
whether Kyle Pitts comes back, if you're gonna franchise, tag
him or pay him top of market. So there's a
(12:22):
lot of decisions to be made. But of all the jobs,
if the Giants isn't I mean the Giants is just
the de facto outside of dealing with ownership, which seems
like that's kind of divolved from once at what it
once was in terms of those relationships. Even though they
keep Joe Shane. Do you want to work with Joe Shane?
(12:44):
Does his track record say I want to work with
this guy?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I don't know. I'm gonna call you Ld? Why call
me Ld? I'm js no LD, lame duck. I'm calling you.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Like if I go in there and I can say,
all right, you blow that guy out, and I.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Joe Shane has brought in a lot of talent. So
I get why Joe Shane keeping his job of the
two of them, I get it because, well, whoever comes
in is coming in ready made with a lot of talent. Yeah,
he ended up being the fall guy for that whole
Saquon Barkley thing that looked a lot worse on the
hard Knocks than it actually was. But yeah, I mean
Atlanta again, we go to a division where you can
go and win, Like, I think that's the bottom line.
(13:18):
You're looking at the board and saying I can go
take this division over. Yeah, I'm telling you. The fit
for John Harbaugh the Atlanta Falcons. Go Harbag, go Harball.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Go Yeah, No, I don't immediately look and go, Hey,
did the Chargers play the Falcons next year?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. Jason
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It is Rick Buker. What's happening?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Man?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Man?
Speaker 7 (15:28):
You must be reading my email because you are not
joking when it comes to the Joe Burrow nervousness.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I mean, at least it's not college football where they're
not called it.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I mean, maybe Mike Brown is calling people for money.
I mean, I wouldn't put it past them, but I mean,
at least that's not happening.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's But trust me, Bengals fan, I
would say, you can tell the Bengals fan in any
room you walk into because they're just pure Scar tissue.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I sit next to a Jets fan, I know that one. Rick.
Tough times, Yeah, tough times. Life is tough out in
these football streets, you know, very defensive.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
Indeed, indeed, that's why that's why we're talking basketball.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah. Okay, so let's start with this because I know,
when I woke up this morning, I thought it was
an Onion headline that Trey Young's preferred destination was the
Washington Wizards. No, no, No, that happened, gets Delta Knight,
CJ McCollum, a role player head to Atlanta. I don't
know what I'm more surprised about, Rick, the fact that
there was wasn't more interest in Trey Young, or the
(16:30):
fact that Trey Young wanted to go to Washington, who
hasn't been above five hundred and nine years.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Yeah, well, you know what, it's a little bit like
the Christmas shift. You know when when your when your
favorite aunt gives you that argyle sweater and you're like.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
This is my favorite sweater ever, it's the only sweater
that you got Christmas.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
So like, I mean, that's that's that's a big part
of it here where he's trying to put the best
face on it. He knew that there weren't any other bidders.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
I mean, that's that's obvious.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
I don't I don't know who insulted who more today
the Atlanta Hawks in saying uh c J. McCollum and
Corey Kisbert for for Trey Young, bring.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
It on, we will take that deal.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Or the San Antonio Spurs in the way they approached
the Los Angeles Lakers and said, well, you know what,
we'll just we'll play with our food for a little bit.
But you know, we're we're not we're not anticipating any
sort of a challenge tonight. And indeed they didn't get one.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
So it is striking.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
It is striking, but it doesn't I guess it doesn't
surprise me because I've been I've been hearing this for
a while and and you know, the strength part is
that they got c J. McCollum and Corey Kisbert for
Trey Young the right now, the Memphis Grizzlies can't get
anything for John Like there is no talk about anybody
(18:05):
making an offer for him. And if you would ask me,
like maybe a year ago, certainly anytime prior to this season,
who I thought was the better point guard or more valuable,
I would have said.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
John Morant, no question.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
But it just goes to show.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
Like we're in a place now with the NBA, the
amount of money that is being paid to franchise or
cornerstone guys or who guys who think they are, that
makes people.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
A little more aware of what kind.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Of teammate are they. And Treyon wasn't a bad teammate.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
But he's not a leader.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
What I've been told by people who played with them,
people who coached him, is that he's just very aloof
And if you're going to pay a guy maximum dollar
and he's gonna have the ball in his hands all
the time, then you want somebody to guys want to
play play for and play with.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
And Trey is one of those guys.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Who he gets very good offensive stats. But there are
only a handful of guys who are so good offensively
that their teammates and everybody else says, you know what,
this guy's so.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Good offensively, will put up with what he doesn't.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Give us defensively. Trey's not good enough offensively for that.
And now they've cycled out several iterations of this team
thinking we just need to get the right guys around Trey.
You know, they moved out deanre Hunter and bugging Bugdanovich,
and then they realized, okay, we'll wait a minute, Like
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Jalen Johnson and Dyson aren't having Daniels, aren't having a
great time playing with him, Maybe we need to change
something else, Maybe we need to change the flagpole here.
And so's that's ultimately what you're seeing. And what will
be very interesting is to see what the Washington Wizards
are willing to offer him because he went there.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
You know, the question is is is an extension?
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Is the money that he wanted already negotiated? Was that
negotiated prior to this deal being made, you know, in
the back room, Because that's one big reason why Trey
Young would say, you know what, don't want to go
to the Washington Wizards.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
I know, I know what they're willing to give me.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Down the line.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, looking at it right, a player option of almost
fifty million for next year, and you start looking at
that next deal for a guy who's shooting percentage gets
lower and lower, like the temperatures in Washington.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
End that player option and the nice sweater he got
for Christmas, the only ones.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Those are Guyle right, coming back in Fashion Fellows.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I'm telling you it was a good movie.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
By the way, if you want to go down that
spy thing with Henry cavill, All right, let's talk about Lebron.
He's now he's missing games and he's flat out just
telling you he's old.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Rick, Yeah, I mean he is old times.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
He tells us a lot of things, and the one
thing that I would agree with him on.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Is if he's old.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
I mean he told us, he told us, you know what,
I can play.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
I can play anyway I have to because I don't
have any holds in my game. I'm like, are we
not counting? Defense is one of the things you have
to have to play this game?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
No, what are we? What are we talking about here?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
So no, Look, the last thing I'm going to do
is question.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Lebron James at this point in his career, it is
all It's all gravy at forty one. I do wonder
about the timing of various things that he says. And
the big one for me is, you know, being on
the podcast first of all, the combination of him and
(21:52):
his podcast and Rich Paul and the podcast that he's doing.
I'm like, man, what did you know?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Did you know that Michael Jordan the only reason people liked.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
His shoes is because because they like guys who've.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Got girls and drove BMW's.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I mean, it was just.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Paul's explanation for why Michael Jordan's shoes were popular.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
And then Lebron Is saying, hey, you know what, we're.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
In an age now where you know, the having a
player playing ISO and having a guy dominate the ball.
You know, that's really not going to work in today's game.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And I'm like, why don't you just say Luca's.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Name out loud?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I mean, so when you say when you say you're
thinking about the timing of things, he's saying for what,
Because Lebron is I was very calculated. What is what
does he want to get out here with some of
the things.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
He's saying, Well, I mean, look, I do think that
then this has been for a while now that there's
sort of this passive aggressive Okay.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
You know what, I'm no longer.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
The feature guy, and Luca's you know, everybody's peaches and cream,
and let's let's just see how he does. Let's let's
let's everybody get.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
A taste of that.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
And I just I think he's struggling with the idea
that he's not the central character anymore. And he can
do a lot of things to try to paper that
over at times, but the reality is, and I don't in.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Some ways, I can appreciate it because since.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
The time he's been fifteen or sixteen, everybody has done
his bidding.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
He has been the guy, and now he's not.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And I just think he's he's struggling with.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Coming to terms with that.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
But I just I think there are so many different
ways that he could handle this where it would be
far more graceful, I mean, the whole technically, He's right,
like ISO ball, high usage with an individual player is
not where the game is going. The game is going
to far more of a European style, depth, versatility, move
(24:03):
the ball, multiple scorers, you know, the kind of the
way that the oka see has played. I'd say the
last four or five champions have been like that. But
he could have said, hey, you know what, I've benefited
from a time I was able to go to win championships.
Luca was able to take Dallas to a championship playing
that style. I'm not sure that that style is still
(24:26):
going to work now going forward. That would be a
far different thing than the sort of the veiled you know,
this iso ball just doesn't It doesn't work anymore, not
acknowledging Lebron.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You played iso ball for like fifteen.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
Years, so I usedge iso ball. I mean, can we
acknowledge that that was the strength of your game for
the last fifteen years or so. I just think he
could approach things a lot different and we would. I
think everybody would appreciate him. On the way out, I
(25:00):
just have too many people who are hearing, you know,
the podcast, and all of it seems to be, you know,
trying to fluff.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
His pillow on the way out, and and people.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
Are like, you know what, can we just we're ready
to turn the page. And I don't like to see
that for a guy who's been around as long as
he has, and has done as much as he has
to go out and to have people saying, yeah, you
know what, we're ready for a new We're ready for
a new face.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Of the league, you know, and you say that, and
we talked about this early in the show. Is I
see Lebron on the sideline. He's not playing.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's just sad that this is the guy who's meant
everything to the league for two decades. This is how
he's going out if this is clearly the end for him,
And I start wondering that well, as the Lakers get
closer to the deadline and they see things that are
working not working, Lebron doesn't want to go out this way,
I could potentially see there being some so you got
(25:56):
a science the hell out of it. But I could see where, hey,
for half a season, Bron goes back to Cleveland and
gets the King's farewell and maybe he lifts them up
in the Eastern Conference, but if not, he gets to
say goodbye and he gets the kind of half season
farewell tour. Any Way, you could see a scenario like
that unfolding.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Well, you know, the fact that the Calves have not
been great this year cracks the door on that.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
It makes it.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
I don't want to say it's possible. I don't see
a way in which it really happens. But it opens
the door to would the Calves be crazy enough to
do that? Because it would be crazy at this point,
what's the benefit. There's a benefit to Lebron to go
back to Cleveland. I don't know that there's a benefit
(26:50):
for the Calves in terms of they would have to
give up players that have contracts that match Lebron and
and then he's run, he's walking off in the sunset.
It wouldn't because it wouldn't be because he's going to
make them better. It would be just for the opportunity
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for him to say goodbye or close the door in
the place that he started. And I I you know
I if the Calves were playing the way they were
last year, I'd say absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
There's no there's no chance.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
And by the way, that's another that's another Rich paulism.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
If you will, like Chris.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Paul, Lebron would make any team better.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Like No, he wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
No, he know he would not not at this stage
of his career, he's not going to make a lot
of the championship teams would not be better with the
addition of Lebron James.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
And as much as the Calves are struggling right now,
I would put them in on that list of teams
that wouldn't be wouldn't improve if they made a deal
for Lebron James, in part because of what they'd have
to give.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Up as league.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
For you, talking about sad, sad circumstances, Rick Carlisle, what's
the over under on when.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
That thousandth win actually shows up?
Speaker 8 (28:09):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Man, I know it's been uh, it's been a tough year,
but think about think about this. I always think about
Rick Carlisle in Indiana, going back to Indiana Indianapolis.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
And for those and I.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Know I'm taking kind of a left turn here, but
for those who you know are are thinking, man, Dallas
traded Luka Doncic, Like, how could they trade Luka Doncic?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Rick Carlisle.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Left the Dallas Mavericks and went to Indianapolis.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
To get to get away from Luka Doncich.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
When somebody does that.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
It makes me think, huh, like wow, that he must
be He must be tough to deal.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
With at times.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So look, Rick, Rick, this is this has.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Been a very tough year on the flip side of it,
and nobody saw last year coming for the Indiana.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Pacers, so I kind of put this.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I put this year in the same category for the
Indiana Pacers as I do the UH the year after
the Warriors went to the finals UH and lost to
Toronto where they sell off a cliff.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
And I would and then you know, it took him
a year.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Two, but they were they were back at it. I
would fully expect that that that's going to be the case.
I'm hoping that it won't be two years before in
before Rick Carlisle gets his.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Gets his one thousand twins.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
So I hope that for my man.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Rick, I think I think Rick Baker just went down
the whole thing of Rick Carlisle, went down to the crossroads,
came up just with the title and had to give
up this year.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Well we you know.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, That is at Rick
Buker the On the Ball podcast as well. Rick is
always buddy, Appreciate it man, Happy New Year. We'll talk
to you next week.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
We're not going to talk about the chemistry spilled that
the New York Knicks are right now.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
But Rick, let me just tell you this I don't
know why we're still playing basketball. I watched the Knicks
win the championship. There was confetti, hats and T shirts,
but they continue to play. So okay, But I mean
I watched us win the championship. It's fine.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Good good point, good point.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
I think south Park. I think south Park predicted that.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Actually, Rick Baker, take it easy, buddy, We'll talk to
you there.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Rick.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I just keep thinking about how Rick Carlisle left Dallas
to get await from Luca dots.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
No, it's true though, right.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I mean, there's lots of noise behind there and Lebron
this becomesy. We know he's difficult to deal with, but
now he's taking his shots at Luca. Hey, we all
need to fit around him and we're revolving in his world.
That was the worst part of Lebron's comments last night.
So yeah, chaotic world and the crossroads for Rick Carlin
(31:10):
exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon tim that
to find out what's trending in the wild water sports
From a guy who left Detroit to get away from
Joe Dumars.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's Martin Wiss.
Speaker 9 (31:23):
Ironically enough, two weeks living in Los Angeles, one of
the first people I had dinner with was Rob Parker
and Joe Tubars. Wow, seriously, I have Brent Wood go
figure so he couldn't get away from him, right exactly,
followed me.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
All right, what I say? And now to a guy
who had to leave Detroit because he wanted to get
away from Bill aim Beer, it's.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
Martin Weiss, you know, funny it numbs. Second guy, I
had dinner with the Atlanta Hawks. I've traded Trey Young
to the Washington Wizards. Wizards sending c J McCollum and
Corey Kispert back to Atlanta. The Spurs beat the Lakers
one oh seven to ninety one. Victor webben Ya, I'm
a sixteen points, fourteen rebound double double San Antonio seven
and one in games when Winby comes off the bench,
(32:04):
Luca docs with a thirty eight point, ten assist, ten
rebound triple double. Only two other Lakers finished in double figures,
to the point that was making earlier Let's first kind
of play with their food a bit. Benston's improved to
twenty eight and nine fifteen to three at home within
a one oh eight to ninety three win over the Bulls.
Kate Cunningham did not play he's nursing me risch injury.
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Isaiah Stewart chipped in a career high thirty one points.
Joel Embiid with twenty eight points seven rebounds to seventy
six ers beat. The Wizards won thirty one to one ten.
Paolo Banko hit a game winning bank shot in the overtime.
It beat the Nets one oh four to one oh three.
Ben Carol finished with thirty points thirteen rebounds four Orlando
as the Magic at the win. The Jazz pushed the
(32:45):
Thunder to overtime, but the defending champions victorious one twenty
nine to one twenty five. Shay Gilds Alexander had twenty
six points, I'm sorry, excuse me, forty six points, my bad,
six rebounds and six assists. Chad Holmgren had twenty three points.
And the Kansas City Chiefs have issued a statement acknowledging
that they are aware that Rashi Rice wide receiver has
(33:07):
been accused of committing domestic violence and we'll investigate further.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Thatlls back to you, Thanks a bunch, Martin, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We
got more basketball on the way. We'll break down the
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Today says something not great about one high profile, underachieving
and disappointing team. It's not the Jets. That's next right here,
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Speaker 3 (33:48):
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Speaker 1 (34:19):
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Speaker 3 (34:22):
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Speaker 1 (34:28):
Collection make it love out of nothing at all? Uh So,
Big NFL News Today, and then look the last couple
of days has been dominated by obviously the coaches getting
fired and who's out getting interviewed.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
In different places, but players who are now hitting the
transfer portal, going back to school or re signing with
their school, or headed to the NFL, or fighting with
their school. This is true, It's true. There's lots of
permutations to this. But you want to know who the
most disappointing team in college football was this year, and
it's not even closide of Syracuse.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Not dude. We lost Evangeli. We lost everything. Okay, we
were great and then we lost defense. We lost a
lot of games. He's really he's showered a ton. He
got a ton. Michigan Michigan.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Uh No, Michigan won all the game thing we're supposed
to win, and they lost the games that were supposed
to lose.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Oh but they thought they were out of the scandal.
It was a very predictable season for Michigan. Jason is
a USC. It is not come on the US. Well,
no one play away US. He lives in disappointment.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
If you had a pool called disappointment, USC would be
on the biggest float in the middle of the pool,
and nobody else could fit in it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Disappointed.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Wait till not playing Notre Dame next year bites them
in the ass and they don't get him.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Well, strength the schedule goes to hell. There you go,
But uh, two big players declared for the NFL Draft
at anytime players in the top ten declared. If the
NFL Draft is a big deal, Ohio State Caleb Downs
Cardinal Tate both headed to the NFL Draft. Ohio State is,
without a doubt, the most disappointing team in college football
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all season. Yes, any given Saturday, a team can lose.
But now with Downs going in the draft and Cardinal
Tate going in, you also have a couple of other
guys you're gonna go. You're gonna have four picks in
the top fifteen because Arville Reese is gonna go in
the top fifteen, and so is Sunny Styles. If Jeremiah
Smith was eligible, he was going, it would be five
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guys in the top fifteen. This is the talent level
that Ohio State had. Caleb Downs is the number one
non quarterback guy I would take. Getting him is like
getting Rod Woodson, and you would want Rod Woodson, who
was on the all time NFL team. Getting Caleb Downs
He is the entire package. There's no flags, got ball skills,
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tackling skills, intelligence, He is as perfect a player as
you can get. This is how good Caleb downs is, right,
all the awards, everything else. He's that good. But you're
talking about a team that has four guys going in
the top fifteen, and not only could did you wind
up not even winning your conference losing to Indiana, You
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couldn't win a game in the playoff after getting a
bo I mean, come on, man, you wind up losing
to it to a team that you're scratched hed going.
How did they come in and just dominate us like that?
We have NFL talent across the board, and you lost
to Miami that way. We have the best defense in
the college football. Well guess what. Miami ran all over
you like it didn't even matter. There is no more
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disappointing team in college football than Ohio State. Not do
you win the title every year, but this should have
been a year where it's back to back for them.
This should have been an easy back to back year, right.
Michigan last year most disappointing team in college football because
they had all that first round talent and they just
didn't get a quarterback. They didn't go on the portal
get a quarterback, and they're playing gadget guys and seventh
year seniors in walkins. That was an epic fail. But obviously,
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you know, Sewan moorehead other things going on in his
life besides picking a quarterback, So there is that. But
they didn't pay a quarterback this year. This year for
Ohio State like this was Hey, there was no other
dominant team in college football. And when you send all
these guys to the NFL in the first round, boy,
their disappointment looks even worse when you see these guys announcing,
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you know they're all going in the top ten.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I think some of it is look at the positions
that they play. Where did Ohio State lose? They got
beat up. They got runned over right, just on both
sides of the ball, offensive and defensive lines. And that
was one of the questions over the course of the
season was would they be tough enough. Did they beat
a bunch of paper champions and also ran squads in
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route to the record and the number two overall rankings.
So yeah, you've got this individual talent that you now
lose and the next iteration for Ryan Day to replace it.
But yeah, in terms of overall disappointment, you did what
you needed to during the regular season, but you couldn't
close out and now you're bystanders and wondering what could
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have been. Meanwhile, you've got a bunch of boosters gun.
How big are tackles this year? How big are defensive tackles?
What are we doing to shore things up to end?
You know, are you going to be tough enough? Because
we'd heard that refrain over the course of the year
and it kind of got brushed aside because they were
winning games handily. And now you end up in the
draft and it's going to be interesting to watch that
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that next run of things when we talk about draft
dominance and whether the big ten now that we're watching
the landscape tip in terms of the on field, does
that now translate to the draft as well, where it's
no longer here's eight guys from from Georgia and whatever.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Well, we'll think about it, because think about it from
Ohio States perspective of what else do you need? Like
this is the best roster in college football, it's an
NFL rosterthing like that, How are you gonna win next year.
You didn't win with all these guys this year, the
guy that nearly won the Heisman Trophy as well. How
are you gonna win next?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
You know what he needs to do, though, he can't
die the beard fully because it'll show he's working harder
if there's.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
More gray and the beard. Yeah, okay, I see that.
Like it also, you know, speaks to wisdom.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
You probably have endorsement deals going and you keep that
beard nice and looks dark and lush. Yeah, I mean
I and I okay, working hard endorsement deal, working hard
endorsement deal?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Peyter shoe polish eight seven seven exit a buta Fresca
exit swallowed up. No more disappointing team this year than
Ohio State. They had a good I not really didn't
well during the regular season up until the time they
needed to win. It was a good run.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, absolutely, winning time not so much coming up next.
Two huge stories out of the NBA. Right now, Jason
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