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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 4 (00:39):
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Speaker 3 (00:40):
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perhaps East Coast, certainly where you are, r and ee,
you're already hitting the midnight snacking, remember and in Gremlins
that ended badly.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, I'm just having some Hershey's kisses. You know, I
have to keep myself going. We were halftime of the show.
Just something, a little give me a little energy. It
can't go the whole night without without a little snack
or anything. What else do you do all day? I'm busy, man,
I work all day. What's roving Vermont? Yeah, I'm listening
to Yeah. No, I let my wife do that. You know,
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it's it's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
You mentioned that you just let my wife do that.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
But because we just had our first snowfall and two people,
two guys had heart attacks, you know, because it was
the wet snow, we call it the widow maker. So
my wife does all the snow shoveling around here.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
How about you find a kid in the neighborhood, or
you invest in a you know.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I bought I bought my wife the best shovel. But
it's the Lamborghini of shovels.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Why don't you use it?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Then it's got a curve and it's got the famae.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
If your wife goes on, ir, what are you gonna do? Arnie?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Then then we'll pay a kid to do it.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Well, why would you pay the kid?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Now? Well, I could save some money if my wife
does it.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
She enjoys it.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Dude, I would never take that, you know, that pleasure
away from hercy she likes to shovel.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, I think there's long residual resentment building we haven't.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
You know. I got stuck in the snow just just
a couple of days ago because I didn't have my
car and four wheel drive, and my brother in law
came down the bailed me out, and he got his
rain drove stuck in the snow and we both got stuck.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Sounds like a really a misadventure with Arnie Spanner. Should
have had a helmet cam on and recorded it all
for Posit.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
It was funny.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
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Boise State with a twenty one seven win over UNLV
Ashton genty as you heard from Steve de Sager, just
one hundred and thirty four yards away now from the
record held by Barry Sanders, one of the all time greats.
And for years you'd see him at events and still say,
what the hell, man, why aren't you still playing and
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running over people and running through people, running around people?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Not anymore?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, I know, I know, I mean that ship is sailed.
It was a couple of years of it. And certainly
look as a guy who grew up a Bears fan
and watching Barry Sanders do his work, I certainly didn't
need any more of him tormenting Chicago Bear defenses. But
you know there was a time and now you're one
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hundred and thirty four yards away. Gent we talked about
the Heisman odds having over the course of his effort
in the first half to night Arnie from twelve to
one down to six to one.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
As but he's not the favorite, right he No.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's it's Travis Hunter and much margin what was should
do I have? It doesn't matter that's a two man race.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yeah, you know, there's a lot of people that bet
should do at the beginning of the year, but I
would probably give it to Gent and that'd be my
probably my number one pick. He's just been phenomenally right.
He could break a record that stood for a long time.
I do like Hunter though, I mean he's he's a
really great player. He'll be probably valuable more maybe more
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valuable in the NFL, But at this point I'd have
to give it to Gent just because of what he's done.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, minus five thousand was Shadoor Sanders fifty to one.
I'm sorry, Travis Travis Hunter coming in. So minus five thousand,
genty was twelve plus twelve hundred or plus thirteen hundred
coming into today, So either twelve to one or three
thirteen to one. So yeah, it's Travis Hunters, right, I mean,
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that's that's all that tells you in all of it.
Dylan Gabriel was, you know, three hundred to one, Cameron
Ward four hundred to one, and you know for shedor
Sanders he was plus forty thousand. Yeah, so four hundred
to one as well. So it's Travis Hunters and that'll
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be you know when we do all the award ceremonies
and fun that that'll be what they announce.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Still have its luster on that too.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
On the Heisman troupe, unfortunately, I mean some of it,
because we do have more perfect information right when we
talk about betting odds and and the proliferation of those,
not that they weren't always there, but I think we
also get more polling. Even if guys like our Steve
Hartman that you'll hear tomorrow afternoon and then part of
Red Zone Radio with doctor Rich Ornberger on Sunday morning,
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even if they don't display it on on their radio
efforts and TV efforts and Twitter, et cetera. You know,
there's the polling sources.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
The award itself, though doesn't have the same luster.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, I mean it's still you know, it still has juice.
I mean, certainly it goes back to the you know
word meaning that we talked about in our forty.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Years ago when you said you had the heisman that
was like a nine out of ten. Now you say
you have the heisman that's like a six out of ten.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Well, it's it still has the weight.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's all a matter of who you're speaking to, right,
if there are people that doesn't have the cash show,
what if people care about college football, then the Heisman
still has the juice. Now, certainly the NFL as the
big dog and eight hundred pound gorilla of this all.
Notice how I just made it too different animals. Depending
on which slice you want to go to, it's either
the big dog on the lot or it's the eight
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hundred pound gorilla. It's just the idea that the NFL
carries so much weight. We then go to, well, they
fail at the NFL level. So what's the difference, you know,
to you know, kind of go down that path. But no,
I think the Heisman still has its weight and the
history and pageantry, the actual ceremony once upon a time
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had more GRAVI toss.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Now we don't even air it anymore, do we. It's
it's on like over the internet. Do we air it on.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Regular It's still gonna be on table telling?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Okay, because it just seems doesn't mean I'm gonna watch it,
but it's still gonna be on Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well, especially again.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
When we have the example more perfect information and it's
like watching a late night talk show?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Am I watching it?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Because I know the two or three clips that are
any good are gonna show up as viral videos before
the damn thing even airs. Right, It gets taped at
five thirty six o'clock here, a Pacific time, and then
it airs at eleven. I don't need to stay up
and watch it after we're we're done on air, because
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I've already seen the clips, because on the East Coast version,
if they were any good, they've they've gone viral, and
they're selling it that way.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
I don't even think i'd want to go to the
you know, to be present. I don't even think I No, I.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Think you would.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
You want to be You want to be in the
room where it happens with all those Heisman winners of yesteryear.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Not if I have to start, not if I have
to play a game, you know, the following week I'm
in the playoffs or something. I you know, if my
season's done, I could understand that, But if I got
other things to worry about, I really don't want to
deal with that.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
No, come on, everybody, he went over this, yeah, Vermont.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah that's me I'm talking about. If I'm a player.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
No, But if you're a player, you want everybody there
kissing your ass. Of course you do, and the photos
that come out of it and all the you know,
glad handing that gets done there. There's a lot of
marketing and sales deals to be done there. Arnie Spandard
not to mention the fact that that if you are
the actual Heisman winner, I mean, that's one hundred bucks
the signature for the rest of your life.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Right now, I understand that part. You know, you just
if you because you know, if you're playing on a
team that has to worry about the next week's games,
you can understand how the kids are worried about practice
and you know, getting things done and the stuff like that,
instead of worrying about getting an award. No, but award
that they're not gonna win anyway, to be honest with well.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But either they're gonna win or they're up for one
of the other words. No, I mean you celebrate those
college football award shows, right, I mean, you work your
ass off and maybe you only joined, maybe you only
join via zoom, but you're still going to be part
of the Okay, maybe do that lea now for me,
I think you still show up. It's a one day trip, right,
it's a business trip. For one day because you're gonna
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go and glad hand all the sponsors and everybody in
the room, and again it's all about brand building and
sales and marketing.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Come on, Arnie, get that money.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
I understand that it's a different time now though, no
doubt about that. Get that nil money.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well, you know, for some folks, we joked about it
the other day. I did my finger wagging at my
alma mater at Northwestern Arnie because they were very proud
that all the twenty guys that committed this year no
nil money.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Oh wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I don't know that i'd be sharing that unless you were,
you know, really trying to admonish your administrative and your
collectives and everything to say, what the hell are we
doing here?
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Did you see the quarterback of Byu and his nil money?
You know, he he happens to be Jewish. He goes
to Byu, he's side with Manachev.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
That was great.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I saw that. I'm my god, he's gonna get everything.
He's just it was hysterically he's there.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Why, Arnie is so sweet? You'll go blind.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Drinking it, I know. So he's he's gotten a couple
of them he's got.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
But that's that's great endorsement, and it got a lot
of run right, A lot of people picked up on it.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
He got two of them.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I can't remember the second endorsement off the top of.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Is that a.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Brandy Well, it should be if it isn't, but you
know the laugh of it, you know, to to punctuate
the Northwestern joke that it was, is that an offensive lineman?
Josh Johnson is leaving. He may be going to Ohio
State and as we know, they spent a lot of
money to build their roster. Maybe they get tougher in
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the offensive line day.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
You know, you can get billionaires of the world and
they can dictate.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
The the gremlins are getting after Arnie Spaniard.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Is no I understand, oh, I understand that. You know that,
you know, some schools are not going to be able
to compete. But when you're you know, when you have
these billionaires throwing money at Michigan, that's going to make
it real tough for for ninety percent of the other schools.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Mike, Well, but that look, it's it's the new rules
of engagement and right, trying to figure out where you
stand on the landscape within your own conference divisions whatever,
and certainly on the larger landscape like the Big ten
expanded eighteen squads, you're trying to figure out where you are.
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Right UCLA they bring into Sean Foster, former star for them,
Eric b Enemy is out and they can spin it
all they want of a he left because he's going
to go back to the NFL. Well, nobody buys that.
You've got USC right, you change your conference, you change
your style of play, but certainly the rules of engagement
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and the doors are open. The floodgates as the guardrails
are few and far between in terms of these processes
that you can go and find, you know, Manishevitce. You
can go find different brands that want to be associated
with players to bring them in and will you be
able to compete with the billion billionaires if that's what
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they want to do.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Ellis said, no, you can't, and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
No, but that's where you know, you've got to work smarter,
not harder, and where you can find cohesion. Right because
for the basketball side and certainly for football now you've
got guys that are just gonna job hop, you know,
like the kids coming out of college and Hey, I
did six months here.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Now I'm gonna go to this next job.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And it's it could work, it could also be a
catastrophic failure. Why do you keep jumping after six months?
Why why are you doing that?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And for players, you know that's the thing. Do you
do you build to a level of veteran players and
fifth year, fourth year guys or do you want the
shiny new toy.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Now it's really gonna have a big gap between the
haves and the have nots. I mean, just take my
school like Arizona, No way we're gonna be able to
compete with the with the big boys of the world.
We're finance mental trouble with our school to begin with.
Down there. It's only a matter of time before we
start losing recruits because everybody wants to get their piece
of the pie, not just us, all the schools that
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are in our position. It's just going to be too tough. Mike.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, but again, you know you got to decide where
you are. Do you go like the grizzled veterans that
win at the college basketball level. We'll talk about that
a little bit more as we continue. Because coaches kind
of wondering aloud, how they patrol their locker rooms going
forward with nil around their teams. He's already spanning your
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Speaker 2 (15:36):
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Speaker 3 (15:47):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Carmon. Know Jason Smith tonight in his
stead oar guy Arnie Spanier sitting in with us. Alex
Tyshirt or technical produce sure, justin Frosberg, our executive producer
Brandon Patrick making us sound pretty in the back editing
and ap and of course Steve Desager at the news desk.
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You find Arnie on Twitter at Stinking Genius One. Find
me over at Swollen Dome Blue Sky at Mike Carman.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
You enter that world yet, Arnie?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Well, no, I've not done the Blue Sky thing yet.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Okay, Well we'll work on that too much for me. Well,
it's Blue Ski.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I think that's a character from one of those college
frat movies from back.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I thought that was a painter.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know, I actually saw a trading card of Blue
today early and I thought of you.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I thought you were gonna say you saw blue.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Now that he would have looked glorious. I've not quite
hit that level of deliriousness. I was in a car
a lot today.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Arnie.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Kids got the uh these big soccer tournaments, so they
do today they.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Won five five nil today? Oh wow?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Well no, I mean, look, hey, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Come on now, all competitors, just because you use those
terms to refer to teams or maybe your own Arizona Wildcats.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
No, my daughter's squad yesterday a tough to nil loss.
But they got a lot of college scouts floating around, and.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
There you go, getting some good chattering.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Are you Are you one of those dads that hang
around the college scouts see what they're riding and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
No, no, I mean say hello, nod wink. I mean
it did make this mistake today, though I don't look.
I'm in southern California. I don't exactly have a lot
of jackets. But at one point I was gifted a
Northwestern jacket my brother. You know it was it was
dating a woman, a nephew on the team, and giving
my love of the school. I got a jacket and
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I wore it, and I'm like, oh, damn it, their
scouts everywhere, what am I doing wearing this jacket? Because
it was, you know, foggy and overcast when we left
really early this morning, and I'm like, oh no, I
got this jacket on. I feel like a like an
ass because now you're like immediately crumpled it into a
ball and put it over my under my little golf
chair that's sitting there that I bought at the US
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Open a couple of years ago when we went. But
it's just fun to watch, you know, just the the
jockeying and watching the coaches and you know they're they're
there and they know each other and generally looking at
the same players.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Your kids.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Just not to get off on a tagent, but because
this was a big story last week when I was
on the coaching did they ever get like Hurley and
start yelling and screaming and yelling at their reps all
the time and just going.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
It could go a little sideways, I mean a lot
of it.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
No, no, no, no, Danny Hurley and and what he
was doing in Hawaiian.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
And that was imhorrent.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Uh And I get it.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
You're fiery and and it it's gonna be cast through
a different lens when you're losing versus when you're winning.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
When you're winning, your eccentric. Right.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
When you're rich, you're eccentric. When your destitute, uh, you're
you're deranged, right, When when you're losing, you're deranged. And
and you're too emotional and ranged, right and right, look.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
And and that's just it, right. You either love it
or hate it.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And we've certainly had those characters on the sidelines for
a for a long long time. But you know the coaches,
you know, certainly my daughter's coach. It's it's only an
issue when it comes down to safety or something. Look,
soccer is a game where one call can change a game, right.
We we've seen it uh many times, even at the
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upper levels, to where all of a sudden there's there's
a spot fall and you're like, well, okay, let's let's
talk about this.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And and it's a momentary thing. It's not a berating certainly, parents,
self included. Every once in a while you ride a
referee because let's let's face it, you're you're jockeying for
the next call, and most of the time you shut up.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
But once in a while.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You know, you got a guy that decided he's gonna
pay more attention to you than the game kids games
over there. It's like I didn't say anything. I may
have kind of shrinked or whatever. I like, I'm not
screaming at the guy, but you might or another parent
our sideline or the other uh where maybe you make
a just a whatever gesture and all of a sudden,
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it's the the eyes are now on you and you're like, wait,
what are we doing here? But but all that to say, no,
I mean the kids go and they play, and you know,
for the most part, you know, we did watch one
match today. It was pretty interesting where I got kind
of heated a couple of times with two girls and
you know, they had to stop play and give the
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warnings and all.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
So you know that that gets a little fire.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
So I can see Soccer's not like when I had
to deal with hockey. So I saw a father pick
up a pen and stop the coach in the neck.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
So I think you're lying.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I think you're you're referring to the old Saturday Night
Lives where it was you know, it was dude as
Bob Dole going out.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
You like this pen stuck in your neck. That's what
you're doing.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
And the funny part is it was the guy was
riding his own son and the coach was defending the sun.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Well i've certainly seen that and people going after their
own kids.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Oh my goodness, it was horrible.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
That gets into a weird spot there, There's no question
about it.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
It got bad. It did get bad. But yeah, Hurley
was over the top. He was just he was too much.
That was actually I was embarrassed for him. I was
embarrassed for the team. And I know he said he's
never gonna do those type of tournaments again. How about
it you just act like a human being.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Well that's the bigger answer. When you do that, just
you know, go and.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Coach and and when you lose, take your lumps exactly,
and remember that it is only the end of November,
early December.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Don't want taking these losses.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
You'll make the tournament. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I think you'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But you know, in the in the moment, right you know,
you get excitable and whatever. For me right now, I
just love watching the ride, man. I love watching the
kid go to work, uh and watching the chess match
I've grown to appreciate soccer on a whole other level.
It goes back to helping build the World Cup site
with Yahoo many years ago. I got no money for it.
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I did get a cool crystal it's not real crystal,
some type of trophy they gave me that says, hey,
thanks for making the greatest website. And you know, at
the time is in sports like, yeah, it's great, give
me some money. Give me money instead, Yeah, yeah, here
here's some more what that what became useless stock options
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to it all.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
But either way, it's been a nice long career.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But you know, working with the FIFA team, even though
I got some folks that really met the stereotype of
what FIFA has been known to be. Uh, the engineers
helped teach me about soccer because we were the first
website really trying to include video highlights back then. So
this would have been the Japan the Japan Korea games
(23:07):
going back at the turn of the century. So a
lot of that was all right, here's some of the
game's greats and here's some of the clips we're going
to use, and then teaching people how to update their
computers to be able to watch said clips. Without much
latency and all that fun stuff back in the day,
the infancy of the webs and all of that. So
all of that to say, the growth of it is
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fun watching the scouts go to work and know, I
don't stand over them with their notes.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
What did we say about my kids? You made a
good play?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Dare you? Dare you?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
That was the right That was the right decision, the
right decision. Mike Elko wondering about decision making to transition
back to college football, uh in the Texas A and
M squad, and wondering about locker room division. And we've
this up before, Arnie, We've talked about this, but you
(24:04):
know this is where coaching goes into this next age
of college football and college basketball, talking about Hurley right
success and winning and what it means to a program
and how do you stay on top? And for Elco,
he goes, quote, you see some insane freshman deals. I
would like to know how the upperclassmen in their program
feel when these freshmen come in making five times more
(24:26):
than the returning starter. Well, they're not gonna like it,
and they're gonna be looking to see where there might
be money to be had for them or it's your
part as a coach administrator is to figure out, all right,
is there something on the table for us to get
them paid, because otherwise they're going to be in the
transfer portal. Right.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I mean that's really it's the new part of the CEO,
part of being a head coach.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Yeah, but everybody can't get the big money. I'm wondering
if you got to the point where we might have
to have some type of salary cap for college football
and too. I didn't think this is what nil money
was about. Maybe I was naive, Mike. I thought it
was gonna be like, here's the local quarterback going to
be on the local radio station and the local car
(25:13):
dealership is going to give him a free car, and
you know, the local restaurant's going to maybe pay him
five hundred dollars a week to to, you know, do
a commercial or something. I did not think about getting
paid a million dollars just to visit a school and
blow up the way it is right now where billionaires
(25:33):
are donating money to universities. I didn't see this this
type of thing going well.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I mean, we always add donors and friends of the program,
right for facilities purposes, et cetera. And then obviously a
nod and a wink two hundred dollars handshakes. Going back
to the sixties and seventies and beyond.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I mean Alabama used to have a whole row of
corvettes that the guys used to take out.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
You know what I mean, Go all the way through,
Go back through our buddy, our friend front of the show,
Eric Dickerson and smu Right, go back to John Wooden
and all the figures around the UCLA program for everything
he accomplished as a coach. There's also you know the
other side, the other shoe that drops with all of that, Right,
(26:18):
so you have it throughout history, and now you just
add extra zeros. Right, it's the old Reggie Bush scandal
because of the cost of a home in southern California
versus what might have been done in the Midwest for
you know, getting an extra offensive lineman. All of those
things to say, what was actionable and what did the
(26:41):
NC doublea and we do this at all levels, aren't he?
I mean, what did they decide to go after versus
they shrug and look the other way? Same thing here
with nil the next iteration. Yeah, it's haves and have nots,
which has always been from facilities, donors and boosters and
everything else on down. It's just more I guess on
(27:01):
some level, more transparent. Oh, I ask you what we've got,
and you have to decide whether you're going to try
to play at that level or not.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
You know what's funny, Mike, just a little small story
on this when you said that all the money, it
is funny from say who you know who used to
you know, fund the money and they used to pay
the players back then when it wasn't allowed. He passed away.
His wife was a school teacher at my high school
(27:33):
in Palisades. When she died, she donated that money so
they could build a swimming pool in our high school
at Pacific Palisades. So, uh, we have a swimming pool
and were a mile from the ocean, and all that
money that was funneled through UCLA got the funneled to
my high school. Now, so but that still the good.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Use, right, It goes to good use and helps the facilities,
you know, the more above because we need a pool,
right or in this case, well, I mean you aren't
gonna go practice for swim meets in the ocean. I
mean it would build stamina, don't get me wrong, right,
but certainly not the same conditions.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I guess when you went back in the pool, it
would have been that much easier.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
But all of that to say, Arnie, you know, it's
it's just the level that you wish to which you
want to compete, right. Are you trying to compete for
conference titles? Are you trying to be part of this
twelve fourteen, sixteen team whatever it becomes, playoff, et cetera.
Then yeah, I mean there's a certain cost associated with that,
and it's the old level up of recognizing what you are.
(28:36):
It's what we do every time we talk about firing
a coach at the collegiate level, right, recognizing their level
of ability and what the alternate choice would be. What's
the opportunity costs are? What do you have to go
and get?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
The Ryan Day question, if you're going to fire him,
who the hell are you getting that's better than ninety
percent wins? If you're gonna look to James Franklin can't
win the big one, well, who the hell you bringing
in that's going to be better than him?
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Right?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Right? I mean, well, at least and you know he
has the players to win the big one though he's
just not pulling it off. What was the uh you
gave three and fifteen.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Three and seventeen.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
But it's just that point though, Arnie is like, you're
at a level, even at the coaching part of it,
and then trickle it down to the players. Well, to
be at that level, you know that you've got to
be bringing in a certain amount of money. So your
school and the NILS collectives whatever have to decide you're
either in or you're out right now, just like Ocean's
(29:39):
eleven and hey, you know what coming up next? Starting,
We're gonna talk betting because there was a monster bet
placed on an NFL game.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I want to know if it has your name attached
to it.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
But first we go to the news desk, the man
with all the answers, the legend, the myth, it's our guy.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
It's Steve desag not to kill a tease. But the
answer is no, Arnie, Arnie large bet he talks about.
I know I must bring this up because the Sunday
Night Show he always takes grief, and justifiably so, because
he gives his pick but doesn't actually lay a dime
any of his pick.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I did bet fifty dollars two team parlay the Knicks
to win the championship to the Arizona Wildcats basketball team,
who's three and four right now, sure to win the championship.
So that's if they win it, I'll get back ten thousand.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, well good luck with that.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
We often say on the weekend show that normal years,
this is Arizona basketball, yes, and this is Arizona football.
But actually this is Arizona basketball.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
That's Arizona football too.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
We have everything final now.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
In the NBA, Utah had been four and seventeen this year,
but they won at Portland one forty one to ninety nine,
ending a five game losing streak. Minnesota was a one
oh seven to ninety winner at Golden State. If Curry
did play twenty three points on six of seventeen shooting.
Draymond Green played at ten early points off the bench.
(31:08):
Sacramento was a one forty to one thirteen winner at
San Antonio.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Victor Wibin Yamou was out again with a bad back.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Atlanta won at six straight, beating the Lakers in overtime
one thirty four, one thirty two. Trey Young thirty one
points twenty twenty assists, including a late.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Three pointer, and all that.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Indiana ended a four game losing streak one thirty two
to one twenty three at Chicago, home wins for Boston
and Philadelphia. The Philly win was against Orlando one oh
two ninety four despite thirty points from Franz Wagner of
the Magic. Boston's now nineteen to four after edging Milwaukee
one eleven to one oh five Jason Tatum thirty four points.
(31:47):
You mentioned it in college hoops tonight in overtime at
Northwestern Wildcats be number nineteen Illinois seventy to sixty six.
NHL wins for Washington and New Jersey among the late games,
final minutes at Vegas. Yes, it's the Golden Knights three
to one over the Stars, and Minnesota's up five to
one at Anaheim in the final minute. The New York
(32:07):
Mets are signing pitcher Clay Holmes as a starter. He'd
been a Yankee reliever. Gets a three year deal with
an opt out after two. The Cleveland Guardians are reportedly
re signing pitcher Shane Bieber one year plus an option.
He'd had Tommy John surgery last April. Tampa Bay agreed
to a deal with catcher Danny Jansen one year plus
an option. Eagles wide receiver Devonte Smith will return Sunday
(32:30):
after a hamstring injury, but tight end Dallas Goddard is
out this weekend with a knee injury. Utah States new
coaches Bronco Mendenhall x a BYU Georgia Tech gave coach
Brank Kee a new contract through twenty twenty nine, and
the final playoff bracket will be announced this Sunday along
with the ball matchups. Boise States only lost this season
was at number one Oregon in September thirty seven to
(32:52):
thirty four on a late field goal. Tenth ranked Boise
State finished up a twelve to one regular season, winning
the Mountain West Tide over twenty thrank UNLB twenty one
to seven. Boise State could get a first round by
in the playoff. Wow and Heisman canadat Ashton genty at
thirty two carries two hundred and nine yards and a touchdown.
The Black Knights of Army, ranked twenty fourth, got a
(33:14):
home win against Tulane to win the American Title thirty
five fourteen Army led twenty one nothing late first half,
and at Jacksonville State Conference USA Champs, the home team
fifty two twelve over Western Kentucky. All three of these
games outdoors in under thirty degree weather, just for the record,
indoors in Atlanta tomorrow. Among the conference finals, it's Georgia
(33:37):
against Texas for the SEC crown.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Back to you, thanks so much, Steve.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
As we continue here live from the tyrack dot Com
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in for Jason Smith tonight. Coming up next, we'll turn
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Speaker 3 (34:26):
Hey, Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me by Carmen Arnie in for Jason Tonight at
Stake and Genius one is where you find him, Hey, Arnie,
three point one million dollar wager.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
I saw that today.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yes, better backing the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, thirteen point favorites to beat the Panthers. Three point
one million dollar wager, which would net him about four
hundred and forty two thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Ridiculous, ridiculous. Why would you want to go ahead and
put three point one million in? And sure it looks
like a safe bet or a thirteen point favorite, So
betting them on the money line, you're looking pretty good.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
But just to win, how much.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Did you say you get back on that?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
It gets four hundred and forty two thousand. He bet
a million dollars. This is what Circus Sports owner Derek
Stevens told ESPN. Then he asked to bet. Moore ended
up with a three point one million dollar wager on Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Four hundred thousand dollars. There's nothing to sneeze at. That's
a lot of money to win. But when you're investing
three point one million and you could lose it, I
just don't have the guts for something like that. I'd
rather go ahead and you know, bet small and take
a big underdog and hope I hit lightning or something.
If you're so if you feel so good about Philadelphia winning,
(35:44):
didn't lay the thirteen and a half points and bet
a million dollars and win a million dollars. Then if
you like going to thirteen points, I just I just
never understood, you know why people did stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Like ESPN bet says it's the most bet game of
the week and largely one way. Seventy percent of the
spread handle, eighty percent of money line is on.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Philly and moving as we creep towards Sunday morning.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yeah, oh, I'm sure we'll go up to fourteen, maybe
even fourteen and a half, right, you said thirteen and
a half, right now, that's the way to go. I'm
surprised it's only seventy percent. Is that ninety five percent?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Carolina has played better of late bryce since coming back
from the benching the.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Game for Philadelphia stay in the division lead over Washington. Still,
you know, to try to be at number one seed.
The game means too much for Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
No, And that's the thing, right is that even though
you've got better play from Carolina obviously a tough loss
with the Chuba Hubbard fumble last week. You got Brooks
coming in and the two of them working, but Bryce
Young has settled in some. But Philadelphia's defense the last
six to eight weeks has just been absurd off the charts,
(36:58):
and we know obviously what that offense is capable of
on a week to week basis. Saquon Barkley trying to
make his case not only for MVP, but also looking
towards rushing records of his own.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
I'll give you an analogy. Kansas City played Las Vegas,
what was it last two weeks ago? Right, and Antonio appears,
goes they're the best team, more the worst team. You
could have probably gotten the same outs three point one
million to win four in two thousand and Vegas came
pretty close to pull the upset. You were sweating through
that game where you're not if you had Kansas City
(37:32):
just to win that game, right.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
We'll say it was just last week, nineteen seventeen, final
right to move to eleven and one.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
I forget what the spread was on that.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
It wasn't thirteen and a half. I want to say
maybe seven seven and a half, but still, I mean,
if you played those Shenanigans, you had to suffer through
and maybe it was a bigger spread than that, I'm
not exactly sure, but it certainly got you already there
towards the end of the game, no doubt about that.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Well, but that's generally the Chiefs, right, I mean, they're
not blowing teams out spread was twelve and a half, okay,
twelve over under was twelve and a half or forty
two and a half. These spread twelve and a half okay,
so right, the same and the same kind of kind
of era. But for the Chiefs, we've watched them week
to week. Offensively, you're not expecting the explosion right right.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Where with the Eagles, yes, you think they're gonna all that,
right exactly, But it.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Is the NFL, and we've talked about the proliferation of
one score games over the course of the year, the
six or fewer points decided. It made for TV events,
no question about it, coming down to the last possessions
in many of these games. I don't anticipate this one
for the Eagles, as you laid out already, way too
(38:52):
much still riding, especially after Detroit win on Thursday night
against the Packers on narrow three point win. If you
had the Packers plus three and a half, as we
told you.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Too ridiculous fourth down, ridiculous to go fourth and four.
It paid off. But that's that. If you don't pick
that up, you have made the mistake of your life
cause to your team a chance to win the game.
You kick the ball and you hope you can play
defense for thirty nine seconds. That was crazy.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
It's cam it's cambeling. As we talk about it, Jason
brings it up. It's like, hey, it's a regular season,
do it. If it's in the playoffs, it's going to
come back to bite you in the ass. I say,
that's your identity and that's.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
What you're doing stupid things.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Why is it stupid? Did it work?
Speaker 5 (39:37):
It worked?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
But though right, but even if it like last year,
everybody goes to the playoffs and says, well those are dumb,
It's like, well no, it's about executing. It's about catching
the football. Like you're still trusting that your guy's going
to make a play. If in the playoff game last year, Arnie,
they then gave up a seventy yard touchdown drive.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
The defense didn't do their fourth and one.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
I can understand it. Fourth and four. When the game's
tied and there's under forty seconds left, you kick the
field goal. You go up by three, and hope your
defense doesn't allow them to get a tit in field goal.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
He went for it, got falling down. David Montgomery, who
joined the show last night. By the way, he may
hate Jason Smith, but we could chronicle that another time. Jason,
unaware that David Montgomery is vegan, tried to pitch him
a partnership with Sonic Burgers. So add him to the
(40:37):
list of people that hate Jason and I'm.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Impressed about that. You can find him Oral Herscheizer's on
that list. There's a lot of big names. Wow, and
are on that list? Great question about it?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah, well you gotta you know, you gotta be first
somewhere at stick a Genius one where you find Arnie
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 4 (00:39):
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alongside our guy Alex ty shirt making us sound so
pretty here on a Friday night into early Saturday morning. Now,
perhaps East Coast, certainly where you are, r and ee,
you're already hitting the midnight snacking, remember and in Gremlins
that ended badly.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, I'm just having some Hershey's kisses. You know, I
have to keep myself going. We were halftime of the show.
Just something, a little give me a little energy. It
can't go the whole night without without a little snack
or anything. What else do you do all day? I'm busy, man,
I work all day. What's roving Vermont? Yeah, I'm listening
to Yeah. No, I let my wife do that. You know,
(01:37):
it's it's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
You mentioned that you just let my wife do that.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
But because we just had our first snowfall and two people,
two guys had heart attacks, you know, because it was
the wet snow, we call it the widow maker. So
my wife does all the snow shoveling around here.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
How about you find a kid in the neighborhood, or
you invest in a you know.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I bought I bought my wife the best shovel. But
it's the Lamborghini of shovels.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Why don't you use it?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Then it's got a curve and it's got the famae.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
If your wife goes on, ir, what are you gonna do? Arnie?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Then then we'll pay a kid to do it.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Well, why would you pay the kid?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Now? Well, I could save some money if my wife
does it.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
She enjoys it.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Dude, I would never take that, you know, that pleasure
away from hercy she likes to shovel.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, I think there's long residual resentment building we haven't.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
You know. I got stuck in the snow just just
a couple of days ago because I didn't have my
car and four wheel drive, and my brother in law
came down the bailed me out, and he got his
rain drove stuck in the snow and we both got stuck.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Sounds like a really a misadventure with Arnie Spanner. Should
have had a helmet cam on and recorded it all
for Posit.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
It was funny.
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Boise State with a twenty one seven win over UNLV
Ashton genty as you heard from Steve de Sager, just
one hundred and thirty four yards away now from the
record held by Barry Sanders, one of the all time greats.
And for years you'd see him at events and still say,
what the hell, man, why aren't you still playing and
(03:37):
running over people and running through people, running around people?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Not anymore?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, I know, I know, I mean that ship is sailed.
It was a couple of years of it. And certainly
look as a guy who grew up a Bears fan
and watching Barry Sanders do his work, I certainly didn't
need any more of him tormenting Chicago Bear defenses. But
you know there was a time and now you're one
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hundred and thirty four yards away. Gent we talked about
the Heisman odds having over the course of his effort
in the first half to night Arnie from twelve to
one down to six to one.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
As but he's not the favorite, right he No.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's it's Travis Hunter and much margin what was should
do I have? It doesn't matter that's a two man race.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yeah, you know, there's a lot of people that bet
should do at the beginning of the year, but I
would probably give it to Gent and that'd be my
probably my number one pick. He's just been phenomenally right.
He could break a record that stood for a long time.
I do like Hunter though, I mean he's he's a
really great player. He'll be probably valuable more maybe more
(04:48):
valuable in the NFL, But at this point I'd have
to give it to Gent just because of what he's done.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, minus five thousand was Shadoor Sanders fifty to one.
I'm sorry, Travis Travis Hunter coming in. So minus five thousand,
genty was twelve plus twelve hundred or plus thirteen hundred
coming into today, So either twelve to one or three
thirteen to one. So yeah, it's Travis Hunters, right, I mean,
(05:15):
that's that's all that tells you in all of it.
Dylan Gabriel was, you know, three hundred to one, Cameron
Ward four hundred to one, and you know for shedor
Sanders he was plus forty thousand. Yeah, so four hundred
to one as well. So it's Travis Hunters and that'll
(05:37):
be you know when we do all the award ceremonies
and fun that that'll be what they announce.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Still have its luster on that too.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
On the Heisman troupe, unfortunately, I mean some of it,
because we do have more perfect information right when we
talk about betting odds and and the proliferation of those,
not that they weren't always there, but I think we
also get more polling. Even if guys like our Steve
Hartman that you'll hear tomorrow afternoon and then part of
Red Zone Radio with doctor Rich Ornberger on Sunday morning,
(06:07):
even if they don't display it on on their radio
efforts and TV efforts and Twitter, et cetera. You know,
there's the polling sources.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
The award itself, though doesn't have the same luster.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, I mean it's still you know, it still has juice.
I mean, certainly it goes back to the you know
word meaning that we talked about in our forty.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Years ago when you said you had the heisman that
was like a nine out of ten. Now you say
you have the heisman that's like a six out of ten.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Well, it's it still has the weight.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's all a matter of who you're speaking to, right,
if there are people that doesn't have the cash show,
what if people care about college football, then the Heisman
still has the juice. Now, certainly the NFL as the
big dog and eight hundred pound gorilla of this all.
Notice how I just made it too different animals. Depending
on which slice you want to go to, it's either
the big dog on the lot or it's the eight
(07:05):
hundred pound gorilla. It's just the idea that the NFL
carries so much weight. We then go to, well, they
fail at the NFL level. So what's the difference, you know,
to you know, kind of go down that path. But no,
I think the Heisman still has its weight and the
history and pageantry, the actual ceremony once upon a time
(07:27):
had more GRAVI toss.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Now we don't even air it anymore, do we. It's
it's on like over the internet. Do we air it on.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Regular It's still gonna be on table telling?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Okay, because it just seems doesn't mean I'm gonna watch it,
but it's still gonna be on Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well, especially again.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
When we have the example more perfect information and it's
like watching a late night talk show?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Am I watching it?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Because I know the two or three clips that are
any good are gonna show up as viral videos before
the damn thing even airs. Right, It gets taped at
five thirty six o'clock here, a Pacific time, and then
it airs at eleven. I don't need to stay up
and watch it after we're we're done on air, because
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I've already seen the clips, because on the East Coast version,
if they were any good, they've they've gone viral, and
they're selling it that way.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
I don't even think i'd want to go to the
you know, to be present. I don't even think I No, I.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Think you would.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
You want to be You want to be in the
room where it happens with all those Heisman winners of yesteryear.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Not if I have to start, not if I have
to play a game, you know, the following week I'm
in the playoffs or something. I you know, if my
season's done, I could understand that, But if I got
other things to worry about, I really don't want to
deal with that.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
No, come on, everybody, he went over this, yeah, Vermont.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah that's me I'm talking about. If I'm a player.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
No, But if you're a player, you want everybody there
kissing your ass. Of course you do, and the photos
that come out of it and all the you know,
glad handing that gets done there. There's a lot of
marketing and sales deals to be done there. Arnie Spandard
not to mention the fact that that if you are
the actual Heisman winner, I mean, that's one hundred bucks
the signature for the rest of your life.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Right now, I understand that part. You know, you just
if you because you know, if you're playing on a
team that has to worry about the next week's games,
you can understand how the kids are worried about practice
and you know, getting things done and the stuff like that,
instead of worrying about getting an award. No, but award
that they're not gonna win anyway, to be honest with well.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But either they're gonna win or they're up for one
of the other words. No, I mean you celebrate those
college football award shows, right, I mean, you work your
ass off and maybe you only joined, maybe you only
join via zoom, but you're still going to be part
of the Okay, maybe do that lea now for me,
I think you still show up. It's a one day trip, right,
it's a business trip. For one day because you're gonna
(09:54):
go and glad hand all the sponsors and everybody in
the room, and again it's all about brand building and
sales and marketing.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Come on, Arnie, get that money.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
I understand that it's a different time now though, no
doubt about that. Get that nil money.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well, you know, for some folks, we joked about it
the other day. I did my finger wagging at my
alma mater at Northwestern Arnie because they were very proud
that all the twenty guys that committed this year no
nil money.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Oh wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I don't know that i'd be sharing that unless you were,
you know, really trying to admonish your administrative and your
collectives and everything to say, what the hell are we
doing here?
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Did you see the quarterback of Byu and his nil money?
You know, he he happens to be Jewish. He goes
to Byu, he's side with Manachev.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
That was great.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I saw that. I'm my god, he's gonna get everything.
He's just it was hysterically he's there.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Why, Arnie is so sweet? You'll go blind.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Drinking it, I know. So he's he's gotten a couple
of them he's got.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
But that's that's great endorsement, and it got a lot
of run right, A lot of people picked up on it.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
He got two of them.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I can't remember the second endorsement off the top of.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Is that a.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Brandy Well, it should be if it isn't, but you
know the laugh of it, you know, to to punctuate
the Northwestern joke that it was, is that an offensive lineman?
Josh Johnson is leaving. He may be going to Ohio
State and as we know, they spent a lot of
money to build their roster. Maybe they get tougher in
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the offensive line day.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
You know, you can get billionaires of the world and
they can dictate.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
The the gremlins are getting after Arnie Spaniard.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Is no I understand, oh, I understand that. You know that,
you know, some schools are not going to be able
to compete. But when you're you know, when you have
these billionaires throwing money at Michigan, that's going to make
it real tough for for ninety percent of the other schools.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Mike, Well, but that look, it's it's the new rules
of engagement and right, trying to figure out where you
stand on the landscape within your own conference divisions whatever,
and certainly on the larger landscape like the Big ten
expanded eighteen squads, you're trying to figure out where you are.
(12:23):
Right UCLA they bring into Sean Foster, former star for them,
Eric b Enemy is out and they can spin it
all they want of a he left because he's going
to go back to the NFL. Well, nobody buys that.
You've got USC right, you change your conference, you change
your style of play, but certainly the rules of engagement
(12:44):
and the doors are open. The floodgates as the guardrails
are few and far between in terms of these processes
that you can go and find, you know, Manishevitce. You
can go find different brands that want to be associated
with players to bring them in and will you be
able to compete with the billion billionaires if that's what
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they want to do.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Ellis said, no, you can't, and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
No, but that's where you know, you've got to work smarter,
not harder, and where you can find cohesion. Right because
for the basketball side and certainly for football now you've
got guys that are just gonna job hop, you know,
like the kids coming out of college and Hey, I
did six months here.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Now I'm gonna go to this next job.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And it's it could work, it could also be a
catastrophic failure. Why do you keep jumping after six months?
Why why are you doing that?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And for players, you know that's the thing. Do you
do you build to a level of veteran players and
fifth year, fourth year guys or do you want the
shiny new toy.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Now it's really gonna have a big gap between the
haves and the have nots. I mean, just take my
school like Arizona, No way we're gonna be able to
compete with the with the big boys of the world.
We're finance mental trouble with our school to begin with.
Down there. It's only a matter of time before we
start losing recruits because everybody wants to get their piece
of the pie, not just us, all the schools that
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are in our position. It's just going to be too tough. Mike.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, but again, you know you got to decide where
you are. Do you go like the grizzled veterans that
win at the college basketball level. We'll talk about that
a little bit more as we continue. Because coaches kind
of wondering aloud, how they patrol their locker rooms going
forward with nil around their teams. He's already spanning your
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Speaker 3 (15:47):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Carmon. Know Jason Smith tonight in his
stead oar guy Arnie Spanier sitting in with us. Alex
Tyshirt or technical produce sure, justin Frosberg, our executive producer
Brandon Patrick making us sound pretty in the back editing
and ap and of course Steve Desager at the news desk.
(16:10):
You find Arnie on Twitter at Stinking Genius One. Find
me over at Swollen Dome Blue Sky at Mike Carman.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
You enter that world yet, Arnie?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Well, no, I've not done the Blue Sky thing yet.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Okay, Well we'll work on that too much for me. Well,
it's Blue Ski.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I think that's a character from one of those college
frat movies from back.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I thought that was a painter.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know, I actually saw a trading card of Blue
today early and I thought of you.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I thought you were gonna say you saw blue.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Now that he would have looked glorious. I've not quite
hit that level of deliriousness. I was in a car
a lot today.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Arnie.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Kids got the uh these big soccer tournaments, so they
do today they.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Won five five nil today? Oh wow?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Well no, I mean, look, hey, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Come on now, all competitors, just because you use those
terms to refer to teams or maybe your own Arizona Wildcats.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
No, my daughter's squad yesterday a tough to nil loss.
But they got a lot of college scouts floating around, and.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
There you go, getting some good chattering.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Are you Are you one of those dads that hang
around the college scouts see what they're riding and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
No, no, I mean say hello, nod wink. I mean
it did make this mistake today, though I don't look.
I'm in southern California. I don't exactly have a lot
of jackets. But at one point I was gifted a
Northwestern jacket my brother. You know it was it was
dating a woman, a nephew on the team, and giving
my love of the school. I got a jacket and
(17:44):
I wore it, and I'm like, oh, damn it, their
scouts everywhere, what am I doing wearing this jacket? Because
it was, you know, foggy and overcast when we left
really early this morning, and I'm like, oh no, I
got this jacket on. I feel like a like an
ass because now you're like immediately crumpled it into a
ball and put it over my under my little golf
chair that's sitting there that I bought at the US
(18:06):
Open a couple of years ago when we went. But
it's just fun to watch, you know, just the the
jockeying and watching the coaches and you know they're they're
there and they know each other and generally looking at
the same players.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Your kids.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Just not to get off on a tagent, but because
this was a big story last week when I was
on the coaching did they ever get like Hurley and
start yelling and screaming and yelling at their reps all
the time and just going.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
It could go a little sideways, I mean a lot
of it.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
No, no, no, no, Danny Hurley and and what he
was doing in Hawaiian.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
And that was imhorrent.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Uh And I get it.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
You're fiery and and it it's gonna be cast through
a different lens when you're losing versus when you're winning.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
When you're winning, your eccentric. Right.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
When you're rich, you're eccentric. When your destitute, uh, you're
you're deranged, right, When when you're losing, you're deranged. And
and you're too emotional and ranged, right and right, look.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
And and that's just it, right. You either love it
or hate it.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And we've certainly had those characters on the sidelines for
a for a long long time. But you know the coaches,
you know, certainly my daughter's coach. It's it's only an
issue when it comes down to safety or something. Look,
soccer is a game where one call can change a game, right.
We we've seen it uh many times, even at the
(19:32):
upper levels, to where all of a sudden there's there's
a spot fall and you're like, well, okay, let's let's
talk about this.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And and it's a momentary thing. It's not a berating certainly, parents,
self included. Every once in a while you ride a
referee because let's let's face it, you're you're jockeying for
the next call, and most of the time you shut up.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
But once in a while.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You know, you got a guy that decided he's gonna
pay more attention to you than the game kids games
over there. It's like I didn't say anything. I may
have kind of shrinked or whatever. I like, I'm not
screaming at the guy, but you might or another parent
our sideline or the other uh where maybe you make
a just a whatever gesture and all of a sudden,
(20:22):
it's the the eyes are now on you and you're like, wait,
what are we doing here? But but all that to say, no,
I mean the kids go and they play, and you know,
for the most part, you know, we did watch one
match today. It was pretty interesting where I got kind
of heated a couple of times with two girls and
you know, they had to stop play and give the
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warnings and all.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
So you know that that gets a little fire.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
So I can see Soccer's not like when I had
to deal with hockey. So I saw a father pick
up a pen and stop the coach in the neck.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
So I think you're lying.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I think you're you're referring to the old Saturday Night
Lives where it was you know, it was dude as
Bob Dole going out.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
You like this pen stuck in your neck. That's what
you're doing.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
And the funny part is it was the guy was
riding his own son and the coach was defending the sun.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Well i've certainly seen that and people going after their
own kids.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Oh my goodness, it was horrible.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
That gets into a weird spot there, There's no question
about it.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
It got bad. It did get bad. But yeah, Hurley
was over the top. He was just he was too much.
That was actually I was embarrassed for him. I was
embarrassed for the team. And I know he said he's
never gonna do those type of tournaments again. How about
it you just act like a human being.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Well that's the bigger answer. When you do that, just
you know, go and.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Coach and and when you lose, take your lumps exactly,
and remember that it is only the end of November,
early December.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Don't want taking these losses.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
You'll make the tournament. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I think you'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But you know, in the in the moment, right you know,
you get excitable and whatever. For me right now, I
just love watching the ride, man. I love watching the
kid go to work, uh and watching the chess match
I've grown to appreciate soccer on a whole other level.
It goes back to helping build the World Cup site
with Yahoo many years ago. I got no money for it.
(22:18):
I did get a cool crystal it's not real crystal,
some type of trophy they gave me that says, hey,
thanks for making the greatest website. And you know, at
the time is in sports like, yeah, it's great, give
me some money. Give me money instead, Yeah, yeah, here
here's some more what that what became useless stock options
(22:40):
to it all.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
But either way, it's been a nice long career.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But you know, working with the FIFA team, even though
I got some folks that really met the stereotype of
what FIFA has been known to be. Uh, the engineers
helped teach me about soccer because we were the first
website really trying to include video highlights back then. So
this would have been the Japan the Japan Korea games
(23:07):
going back at the turn of the century. So a
lot of that was all right, here's some of the
game's greats and here's some of the clips we're going
to use, and then teaching people how to update their
computers to be able to watch said clips. Without much
latency and all that fun stuff back in the day,
the infancy of the webs and all of that. So
all of that to say, the growth of it is
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fun watching the scouts go to work and know, I
don't stand over them with their notes.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
What did we say about my kids? You made a
good play?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Dare you? Dare you?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
That was the right That was the right decision, the
right decision. Mike Elko wondering about decision making to transition
back to college football, uh in the Texas A and
M squad, and wondering about locker room division. And we've
this up before, Arnie, We've talked about this, but you
(24:04):
know this is where coaching goes into this next age
of college football and college basketball, talking about Hurley right
success and winning and what it means to a program
and how do you stay on top? And for Elco,
he goes, quote, you see some insane freshman deals. I
would like to know how the upperclassmen in their program
feel when these freshmen come in making five times more
(24:26):
than the returning starter. Well, they're not gonna like it,
and they're gonna be looking to see where there might
be money to be had for them or it's your
part as a coach administrator is to figure out, all right,
is there something on the table for us to get
them paid, because otherwise they're going to be in the
transfer portal. Right.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I mean that's really it's the new part of the CEO,
part of being a head coach.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Yeah, but everybody can't get the big money. I'm wondering
if you got to the point where we might have
to have some type of salary cap for college football
and too. I didn't think this is what nil money
was about. Maybe I was naive, Mike. I thought it
was gonna be like, here's the local quarterback going to
be on the local radio station and the local car
(25:13):
dealership is going to give him a free car, and
you know, the local restaurant's going to maybe pay him
five hundred dollars a week to to, you know, do
a commercial or something. I did not think about getting
paid a million dollars just to visit a school and
blow up the way it is right now where billionaires
(25:33):
are donating money to universities. I didn't see this this
type of thing going well.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I mean, we always add donors and friends of the program,
right for facilities purposes, et cetera. And then obviously a
nod and a wink two hundred dollars handshakes. Going back
to the sixties and seventies and beyond.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I mean Alabama used to have a whole row of
corvettes that the guys used to take out.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
You know what I mean, Go all the way through,
Go back through our buddy, our friend front of the show,
Eric Dickerson and smu Right, go back to John Wooden
and all the figures around the UCLA program for everything
he accomplished as a coach. There's also you know the
other side, the other shoe that drops with all of that, Right,
(26:18):
so you have it throughout history, and now you just
add extra zeros. Right, it's the old Reggie Bush scandal
because of the cost of a home in southern California
versus what might have been done in the Midwest for
you know, getting an extra offensive lineman. All of those
things to say, what was actionable and what did the
(26:41):
NC doublea and we do this at all levels, aren't he?
I mean, what did they decide to go after versus
they shrug and look the other way? Same thing here
with nil the next iteration. Yeah, it's haves and have nots,
which has always been from facilities, donors and boosters and
everything else on down. It's just more I guess on
(27:01):
some level, more transparent. Oh, I ask you what we've got,
and you have to decide whether you're going to try
to play at that level or not.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
You know what's funny, Mike, just a little small story
on this when you said that all the money, it
is funny from say who you know who used to
you know, fund the money and they used to pay
the players back then when it wasn't allowed. He passed away.
His wife was a school teacher at my high school
(27:33):
in Palisades. When she died, she donated that money so
they could build a swimming pool in our high school
at Pacific Palisades. So, uh, we have a swimming pool
and were a mile from the ocean, and all that
money that was funneled through UCLA got the funneled to
my high school. Now, so but that still the good.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Use, right, It goes to good use and helps the facilities,
you know, the more above because we need a pool,
right or in this case, well, I mean you aren't
gonna go practice for swim meets in the ocean. I
mean it would build stamina, don't get me wrong, right,
but certainly not the same conditions.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I guess when you went back in the pool, it
would have been that much easier.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
But all of that to say, Arnie, you know, it's
it's just the level that you wish to which you
want to compete, right. Are you trying to compete for
conference titles? Are you trying to be part of this
twelve fourteen, sixteen team whatever it becomes, playoff, et cetera.
Then yeah, I mean there's a certain cost associated with that,
and it's the old level up of recognizing what you are.
(28:36):
It's what we do every time we talk about firing
a coach at the collegiate level, right, recognizing their level
of ability and what the alternate choice would be. What's
the opportunity costs are? What do you have to go
and get?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
The Ryan Day question, if you're going to fire him,
who the hell are you getting that's better than ninety
percent wins? If you're gonna look to James Franklin can't
win the big one, well, who the hell you bringing
in that's going to be better than him?
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Right?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Right? I mean, well, at least and you know he
has the players to win the big one though he's
just not pulling it off. What was the uh you
gave three and fifteen.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Three and seventeen.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
But it's just that point though, Arnie is like, you're
at a level, even at the coaching part of it,
and then trickle it down to the players. Well, to
be at that level, you know that you've got to
be bringing in a certain amount of money. So your
school and the NILS collectives whatever have to decide you're
either in or you're out right now, just like Ocean's
(29:39):
eleven and hey, you know what coming up next? Starting,
We're gonna talk betting because there was a monster bet
placed on an NFL game.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I want to know if it has your name attached
to it.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
But first we go to the news desk, the man
with all the answers, the legend, the myth, it's our guy.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
It's Steve desag not to kill a tease. But the
answer is no, Arnie, Arnie large bet he talks about.
I know I must bring this up because the Sunday
Night Show he always takes grief, and justifiably so, because
he gives his pick but doesn't actually lay a dime
any of his pick.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I did bet fifty dollars two team parlay the Knicks
to win the championship to the Arizona Wildcats basketball team,
who's three and four right now, sure to win the championship.
So that's if they win it, I'll get back ten thousand.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, well good luck with that.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
We often say on the weekend show that normal years,
this is Arizona basketball, yes, and this is Arizona football.
But actually this is Arizona basketball.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
That's Arizona football too.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
We have everything final now.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
In the NBA, Utah had been four and seventeen this year,
but they won at Portland one forty one to ninety nine,
ending a five game losing streak. Minnesota was a one
oh seven to ninety winner at Golden State. If Curry
did play twenty three points on six of seventeen shooting.
Draymond Green played at ten early points off the bench.
(31:08):
Sacramento was a one forty to one thirteen winner at
San Antonio.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Victor Wibin Yamou was out again with a bad back.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Atlanta won at six straight, beating the Lakers in overtime
one thirty four, one thirty two. Trey Young thirty one
points twenty twenty assists, including a late.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Three pointer, and all that.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Indiana ended a four game losing streak one thirty two
to one twenty three at Chicago, home wins for Boston
and Philadelphia. The Philly win was against Orlando one oh
two ninety four despite thirty points from Franz Wagner of
the Magic. Boston's now nineteen to four after edging Milwaukee
one eleven to one oh five Jason Tatum thirty four points.
(31:47):
You mentioned it in college hoops tonight in overtime at
Northwestern Wildcats be number nineteen Illinois seventy to sixty six.
NHL wins for Washington and New Jersey among the late games,
final minutes at Vegas. Yes, it's the Golden Knights three
to one over the Stars, and Minnesota's up five to
one at Anaheim in the final minute. The New York
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Mets are signing pitcher Clay Holmes as a starter. He'd
been a Yankee reliever. Gets a three year deal with
an opt out after two. The Cleveland Guardians are reportedly
re signing pitcher Shane Bieber one year plus an option.
He'd had Tommy John surgery last April. Tampa Bay agreed
to a deal with catcher Danny Jansen one year plus
an option. Eagles wide receiver Devonte Smith will return Sunday
(32:30):
after a hamstring injury, but tight end Dallas Goddard is
out this weekend with a knee injury. Utah States new
coaches Bronco Mendenhall x a BYU Georgia Tech gave coach
Brank Kee a new contract through twenty twenty nine, and
the final playoff bracket will be announced this Sunday along
with the ball matchups. Boise States only lost this season
was at number one Oregon in September thirty seven to
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thirty four on a late field goal. Tenth ranked Boise
State finished up a twelve to one regular season, winning
the Mountain West Tide over twenty thrank UNLB twenty one
to seven. Boise State could get a first round by
in the playoff. Wow and Heisman canadat Ashton genty at
thirty two carries two hundred and nine yards and a touchdown.
The Black Knights of Army, ranked twenty fourth, got a
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home win against Tulane to win the American Title thirty
five fourteen Army led twenty one nothing late first half,
and at Jacksonville State Conference USA Champs, the home team
fifty two twelve over Western Kentucky. All three of these
games outdoors in under thirty degree weather, just for the record,
indoors in Atlanta tomorrow. Among the conference finals, it's Georgia
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against Texas for the SEC crown.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Back to you, thanks so much, Steve.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
As we continue here live from the tyrack dot Com
Studios Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Carmon, Arnie Spanier
in for Jason Smith tonight. Coming up next, we'll turn
our attention to the National Football League in one big
game that has a big bet. But first, hey, remember
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Speaker 3 (34:26):
Hey, Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me by Carmen Arnie in for Jason Tonight at
Stake and Genius one is where you find him, Hey, Arnie,
three point one million dollar wager.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
I saw that today.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yes, better backing the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, thirteen point favorites to beat the Panthers. Three point
one million dollar wager, which would net him about four
hundred and forty two thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Ridiculous, ridiculous. Why would you want to go ahead and
put three point one million in? And sure it looks
like a safe bet or a thirteen point favorite, So
betting them on the money line, you're looking pretty good.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
But just to win, how much.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Did you say you get back on that?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
It gets four hundred and forty two thousand. He bet
a million dollars. This is what Circus Sports owner Derek
Stevens told ESPN. Then he asked to bet. Moore ended
up with a three point one million dollar wager on Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Four hundred thousand dollars. There's nothing to sneeze at. That's
a lot of money to win. But when you're investing
three point one million and you could lose it, I
just don't have the guts for something like that. I'd
rather go ahead and you know, bet small and take
a big underdog and hope I hit lightning or something.
If you're so if you feel so good about Philadelphia winning,
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didn't lay the thirteen and a half points and bet
a million dollars and win a million dollars. Then if
you like going to thirteen points, I just I just
never understood, you know why people did stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Like ESPN bet says it's the most bet game of
the week and largely one way. Seventy percent of the
spread handle, eighty percent of money line is on.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Philly and moving as we creep towards Sunday morning.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yeah, oh, I'm sure we'll go up to fourteen, maybe
even fourteen and a half, right, you said thirteen and
a half, right now, that's the way to go. I'm
surprised it's only seventy percent. Is that ninety five percent?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Carolina has played better of late bryce since coming back
from the benching the.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Game for Philadelphia stay in the division lead over Washington. Still,
you know, to try to be at number one seed.
The game means too much for Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
No, And that's the thing, right is that even though
you've got better play from Carolina obviously a tough loss
with the Chuba Hubbard fumble last week. You got Brooks
coming in and the two of them working, but Bryce
Young has settled in some. But Philadelphia's defense the last
six to eight weeks has just been absurd off the charts,
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and we know obviously what that offense is capable of
on a week to week basis. Saquon Barkley trying to
make his case not only for MVP, but also looking
towards rushing records of his own.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
I'll give you an analogy. Kansas City played Las Vegas,
what was it last two weeks ago? Right, and Antonio appears,
goes they're the best team, more the worst team. You
could have probably gotten the same outs three point one
million to win four in two thousand and Vegas came
pretty close to pull the upset. You were sweating through
that game where you're not if you had Kansas City
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just to win that game, right.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
We'll say it was just last week, nineteen seventeen, final
right to move to eleven and one.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
I forget what the spread was on that.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
It wasn't thirteen and a half. I want to say
maybe seven seven and a half, but still, I mean,
if you played those Shenanigans, you had to suffer through
and maybe it was a bigger spread than that, I'm
not exactly sure, but it certainly got you already there
towards the end of the game, no doubt about that.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Well, but that's generally the Chiefs, right, I mean, they're
not blowing teams out spread was twelve and a half, okay,
twelve over under was twelve and a half or forty
two and a half. These spread twelve and a half okay,
so right, the same and the same kind of kind
of era. But for the Chiefs, we've watched them week
to week. Offensively, you're not expecting the explosion right right.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Where with the Eagles, yes, you think they're gonna all that,
right exactly, But it.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Is the NFL, and we've talked about the proliferation of
one score games over the course of the year, the
six or fewer points decided. It made for TV events,
no question about it, coming down to the last possessions
in many of these games. I don't anticipate this one
for the Eagles, as you laid out already, way too
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much still riding, especially after Detroit win on Thursday night
against the Packers on narrow three point win. If you
had the Packers plus three and a half, as we
told you.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Too ridiculous fourth down, ridiculous to go fourth and four.
It paid off. But that's that. If you don't pick
that up, you have made the mistake of your life
cause to your team a chance to win the game.
You kick the ball and you hope you can play
defense for thirty nine seconds. That was crazy.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
It's cam it's cambeling. As we talk about it, Jason
brings it up. It's like, hey, it's a regular season,
do it. If it's in the playoffs, it's going to
come back to bite you in the ass. I say,
that's your identity and that's.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
What you're doing stupid things.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Why is it stupid? Did it work?
Speaker 5 (39:37):
It worked?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
But though right, but even if it like last year,
everybody goes to the playoffs and says, well those are dumb,
It's like, well no, it's about executing. It's about catching
the football. Like you're still trusting that your guy's going
to make a play. If in the playoff game last year, Arnie,
they then gave up a seventy yard touchdown drive.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
The defense didn't do their fourth and one.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
I can understand it. Fourth and four. When the game's
tied and there's under forty seconds left, you kick the
field goal. You go up by three, and hope your
defense doesn't allow them to get a tit in field goal.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
He went for it, got falling down. David Montgomery, who
joined the show last night. By the way, he may
hate Jason Smith, but we could chronicle that another time. Jason,
unaware that David Montgomery is vegan, tried to pitch him
a partnership with Sonic Burgers. So add him to the
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list of people that hate Jason and I'm.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Impressed about that. You can find him Oral Herscheizer's on
that list. There's a lot of big names. Wow, and
are on that list? Great question about it?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah, well you gotta you know, you gotta be first
somewhere at stick a Genius one where you find Arnie
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