October 8, 2024 • 40 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon remember the first two weeks of the season when the Saints were the greatest team in the NFL. And the the guys tell you why it is only a matter of time before the Browns move on from DeShaun Watson at QB!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome and side. Would might be the greatest night
in Kansas City sports history?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The greatest night ever?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
No, no, no, j August he is still a guest
of the state. As they say, Uh no, Chiefs win,
Royals beat the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
What's a better night?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Somebody got some barbecue. It's all good. That happens every day. Yeah,
But I mean, if we're gonna go hand trick, I mean,
you may have ended your day great sports game, great
sports game outcome comes your way, and then you get
a giant slab of ribs or you know, but I
could do bad sports game, bad sports game, big fred
flintstone side of ribs that tips over the side of
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my car. Yeah, but it's not trumping those other two things.
Because now because there's a difference between hat.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I can do that any day. It's sad.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You don't get the Royals beating the Yankees and the
Chiefs winning on Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
You don't get that. Now I want dinosaur ribs.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Dinosaur he who delivers ribs, just just me put it
on that side. It tips over the Yeah, you would
think that Fred Flintstone would know. Hey, if I order
those big ribs, gonna tip over my car. Eh, but
you know what, heats enough of those ribs, it's gonna
even out Bunnie. I don't know about that, front, but
it's not gonna like that front.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I don't know front.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Jason Goup Front.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Explained to millennials with the Flintstones, I have to explain,
oh yeah, I do, yes, because that's even too much
for them to have watched halle Berry in the Flintstones
back in the early.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
See but now maybe you got folks that now want
to go watch it because you referenced the Great Way. Wait. Wait,
apparently halle Berry was in the show called the Flintstones.
Wait a minute, wait, this show just happened, yes, twenty
years ago, brand new she was fantastic in the Flintstones.
What is that the flintstones. No, I'm just kidding, you're
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gen z.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You know what. I used to eat the flintstone gummies.
They're like viam super chalking and stuff, a million strong
and growing.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh yeah, flintstone vitamins with I used to always cut
through and go, I want the red ones because the
red ones were the cherry or the berry ones.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm like, I don't want a green one of the
white one.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Not.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I just want to eat the red ones, all right, flint.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, it said cherry, I said cherry, and the strawberry one,
the red ones. What's your beef with the red one?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
No, the red one is the best one.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It tasted great.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
The other ones were like, yeah, so you're anti white
and anti green white, green.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Purple was always the purple was always worse, Like, really,
you're really going to go after the purple guy just
because it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I'm just saying this viting. How much does Delicious? Who's
my baseball team? Come on, man, you think I'm into
anti purple guys. Grimace is the MVP. He's gonna start game.
Anybody do any rants against Grimace lately that you're aware of.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I don't have any content, So I'm gonna have a
rant against Grimace.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
We'll have more baseball coming up throughout this Again, we
have the all kinds of late drama with the Padres
and the Dodgers, which is just awesome. It's delicious theater
for the playoffs come on now. But we just watched
the Kansaity Chiefs really not have too much difficulty with
the New Orleans Saints. They win it twenty six thirteen,
and even though it feels like it was close, it
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really wasn't. There was no point in the game where
I thought, hey, the Saints are really in this. The
only point where maybe it got close to that was
the Saints looked like they were gonna go up twenty
three to seven and the game. But the Chiefs throw
the Seahawks slant on the goal line when they should
have given it to Marshawn Pass, and of course what
happens is it bounces off of Juju Smith Schuster, it's
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picked off by a Saints player and they run it
back to midfield. That was where the Saints could have
gotten back in the game at least opened the door. Yeah,
they did not, And it was pretty much just the
Chiefs squeezing like a Boa constrictor until the Saints passed out,
and then they fell through the gullet of the snake.
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As we went through the stats, I mean two to
one and the time of possession the basically nicely done. Yeah,
four hundred and sixty total yards, twenty eight first downs.
Grind it out and just get.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The game done.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
This is why you never go too crazy over the
first two weeks of an NFL season, because boy, I
am old enough to remember when after the second week
of the season, the Saints were the greatest team in
the NFL. Look at what the Saints are doing. Oh
more pre Snott motion for Dennis Allen. Look at these
Saints receivers. They're unstoppable. Wait wait, wait, hang on, hang on.
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They beat the worst team in the NFL and the
Carolina Panthers. They beat the Cowboys, who maybe the Cowboys stink.
We know we've seen them now for five weeks. The
Cowboys aren't that good. They get absolutely blown out by
the Saints. The Saints are not a great football team. Okay,
this is who the Saint. The Saints are more this
team tonight than they were that team the first two weeks.
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Alvin Kamara is twenty nine years old. Sometimes he can
have big games, but most of the times it's like tonight,
eleven carries for twenty six yards. Yes, Rashid Shaheed and
Chris Olave are two pretty good wide receivers, but for
a Lave he has knights like tonight too often two
receptions for ten yards. Rashid Sahait is turning into a
big weapon, right, not saying he's not. He's turning into
a guy that you can count on more and more.
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Had a nice breakthrough year last year, but this is
not a great Saints team. They didn't make a lot
of moves in the offseason to get better. This is
not a team that drafted particularly incredibly well, signed a
lot of players in free agency. This was Maybe year
two will be a little bit better than year one now,
But the first two weeks we paid so much attention
to because it's the only two weeks of the season.
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If the Saints had had a two week stretch Week
eight to Week nine where they beat the Carolina Panthers
pretty badly and they thumped the Cowboys, it would be
whoa look at the Saints thumping the Cowboys. We talk
about it for five minutes and then we moved on.
But instead it was, oh, look at the Saints. How
good they are. They can't be Stop's like, well stop
stop stop. Yes, yes, they blew out the Cowboys. We've
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seen the Cowboys lose like this before. We've seen we
just saw this happen to the Cowboys the first week
of the playoffs against the Packers and Jordan Love and
his first playoff game. We've seen this movie. We've seen
it happen. But because it was the first two weeks,
let's go crazy talk about the Saints, how great they are.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I told it for the season.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
The Saints are going to be fighting for the number
one overall picking the draft, and right now they're closer
to that team than they were the team the first
two weeks. Yeah, on the board, put I put that
that we have in the studio, right and Super Bowl
winners and participants and all that stuff. We have the
you know, random predictions like, yeah, who's gonna be the worst?
They'll be the worst. But it's all said done, Dennis
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Allen is still gonna be the guy most likely, maybe
after Robert Salah to get fired. And you go on
down the list. But Derek Carr is a jag. I mean,
we've seen this now. The fact that he unleashes more
deep balls for Rashid Shahed is a nice addition to
the offense, no question. But you knew this coming into
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this game three and fourteen against the Chiefs. In his
career before tonight tackling on the wrong side once again,
he's been dominated for Billar to post and Kamara couldn't
find room to run. He's even last year he was
more a receiver than he was a runner. Right, seventy
five catches and that's where he makes his hay. And
so you look at this squad defensively, they don't have
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enough of the workhorses. And they did the job to
force the Chiefs to centle for field goals. But I
think they were more than happy and contended to just
put up threes. Why because they knew the Saints offense
except for that one big hit to Shahed, there wasn't
a whole lot going on.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
A lave was erased.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
No, they probably thought, and I'm sure they did. The
big whiff of the draft pick for them right now
is Kendre Miller, Because I'm sure they thought we're drafting him.
He's a really good running back. We have visions of
him and Alvin Kamara being the one two punch. And
he can't even stay in the field. He can't stay healthy.
He's been on i R since the beginning of the year.
Dennis Allen didn't have anything good to say about him
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in the preseason. Got to be able to play. So, yeah,
was that a pick that didn't go well for him? Yeah,
So when you're talking about certain things that need to happen,
it just hasn't. And when the competition got a little
bit tougher, the Saints are coming up with El's right. Carolina.
They played five games so far. The two worst teams
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they've played are the teams they've beaten. They beat Carolina,
they beat Dallas. They played Philadelphia, Atlanta and Kansas City,
all teams better than Dallas and Carolina, not to varying extent.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
The Chiefs are the best team.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
They played Atlanta and Philadelphia kind of in the middle,
but they're a little bit of a step up from Dallas.
And they lost both of those games. Yes they were close,
but they still lost. They still found a way to
not win. And now they're two and three They're gonna
play Tampa Bay next week. Who knows where Derek Carr
is gonna be health wise, They're gonna lose that game. Now,
suddenly Denver is is better then expected. The schedule just
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gets a little bit harder for them. And the Saints
are the walking definition of why you don't pay so
much attention to the first two weeks of the NFL season.
You get to the quarter pole in four or five,
all right, you get a little bit more of a
sample size. But because it's the first two weeks, and
people can't come up with and and and pundits and
experts and people on TV, Hey, I'm sorry that you
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can't come up with something better to talk about. Where
I'm gonna artificially talk about how great this football team is. Okay, now,
now let me see what we have to say about
the Saints. Are you walking back what you said the
first two weeks, how great they are, unstoppable, They're now
this is kind of who the Saints were. This is
a if you told me the Saints to be two
and three at this point, I say, yeah, oh, that's
actually probably better than I thought they would be. But
this is who they are. Yeah, I mean coming out
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of Week two, I mean you have to ask the question,
you know what changed, you know what in terms of
their offensive philosophy or whatever else. And to your point, yeah,
you're playing a couple of bad teams, but the show
shows as we do them or anybody in our biz
are in that moment, and it's not to suddenly crown them.
I mean, I think a bunch of folks went out
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to Vegas and that over under number that was seven
and a half all off season suddenly jumped to ten
and a half, which was absolutely foolhardy. So Vegas will
build another wing on some of those big hotels coming
out of whatever money came flying in. But in the moment,
it's a all right. At least it looks functional, right,
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and they're doing a little bit something more dynamic than
they did a year ago, And certainly Rashid Shaheed is
a big part of that. Like I said, I mean,
Derek Carr, at least not checking down every down is
a beautiful thing, right. If you can actually try to
stretch the field every now and again, maybe some some
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good results. If nothing else, we know you can draw
some pass interference calls. The way things are adjudicated in
this uh this man's National Football League in twenty twenty four.
But yeah, never thought they were gonna be good. But
for two weeks it was a fun little ride, right.
I mean we've had that with a lot of teams
actually through the first five weeks, and it's like, look
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at them gun now or for what I mean, Look,
we can all be heroes. Just one day they put
up a big point total.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
What they do the other four weeks? Oh no, I mean, Jason,
we thought the Jets were good, Dude.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I love more than the Jets on the Jets in
a few minutes, you do, but we'll take it to
the larger in a moment. But to you know, address
it here in the now. Right, that game against New England,
there were a lot of positive things to look at
in terms of mobility and whatever. Rogers, well, we know
what the Patriots are. Patriots think, right. We did our
parlays right that we did on on Friday. What did
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I say the Jets beat They beat two teams in
stinks thirty six point spread, our thirty six point over under.
Like my part of the parlay was, this isn't coming
anywhere close to thirty six points final score fifteen ten. Well, Gretchen,
thank you for watching the worst football game and the
three of the NFL. You know what, I think I'm
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safely gonna put that one down at number two seventy
two on my rankings.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I mean, that might be in the two seventies. But
we still got a ways to go.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But I know, but right now, right now, I'll just
pencil it in down at the Remember we got some
bad December football. That's good bad December football or Jets games.
I would say, I will say this, that Dolphins Patriots
game at the end of the year. That will and
I feel pretty good about this, that will easily be
if you ranking the games one through two seventy two,
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that will easy easily be an after two sixty five.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh yeah, no, there's no question.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah. I mean we might have a couple of shutouts
thrown in and you know, some early work from the
Panthers will be considered no doubt. Exit out about a
fresh exit swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Carmen. Again, it's why you don't spend
so much time on the first two weeks of the season.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Coming up next, we'll have more from the NFL. Yeah,
I'll tell you what is next for the Jets and
why next week is gonna be absolute wildfire. Plus we
get back into the biggest story of the day from
sports and ending that none of us saw coming. That's
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (13:38):
Oh five second Dance Party. I'm gonna keep this as
my ringtone forever. It's my ringtone for Pam and Zacher.
It's my ringtone for Pam and Zoe. You know, we
just get this is house's ringtone. Yeah, I'm like, well,
you're my team. Like how you're my team? You, Pam
and Zoe, You're my team. So whenever it rings, I go, oh,
it's my team. Hello, moron, what what what do you want?
Stupid positivity? It's my team. Ring, it's my team, never change.
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Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
Live the diirec dot Com Studios.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's my team, it's my team.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It's my team. Uh, we'll get to a big story
out of Major League Baseball today coming up in a
few minutes. Boy, and this is not it's not even
Dodgers padres late. We have not to get to as well.
But let me tell you this, because there's so much
talk coming off of yesterday. The Vikings went over the
Jets early, which I say early because it was early
for me getting up to watch them stink.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Early here West Coast thirty kickoff. Come on.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
There's lots of things that went wrong with the Jets
right another game, they start slow before they have to
come back. Aaron Rodgers is not good. Three interceptions and
and and especially one to lose the game when I thought, okay,
they could pull this out.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And you got Van ginkld.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, he's got more touchdowns than most of your high
price and wide receivers. Only does is get pick sixes.
It's all that's. Doesn't score touch man that jacket his
mom or whoever that was, I swear it was pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
No, Van Ginkle. All he does is score touch He's
the new Chris Carter.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's all he does.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Ginkle.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yes, Ben Ginkle, did he sleep for a hundred years? Yes,
that's exactly that. He woke up, caught the pass from
Rodgers and goes in.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
For his nickname was Rip growing up.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I'm gonna tell you this because there's so much talk
about the Jets and what's gonna happen Aaron Rodgers, How
bad is he? Let me let me give you something different. Uh,
you could already tell the last couple of weeks Rogers versus.
The offense has been boiling. It's not been great. And
I'm the free first person to tell you the offense
does not. It's they have two good players on it.
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The players are too good for it to be this bad.
Right when you're talking about Breist Hall and Braylan Allen,
two of the best one two punch running backs you'll
get in the game. You have Garrett Wilson, you have
a pretty good tight end Tyler Conklin. The offensive line
is good enough. It's not great, but it's good enough.
And you have Aaron Rodgers a quarterback. It should not
be this bad. And forget about Oh, Aaron Rodge shouldn't
have gone to Egypt. No, there is plenty of times.
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That's two practices, right, there's two practices. He did go
to you, But it's a microcosm of the larger disconnection discord. Aaron,
you missed the two days we did offense. A sorry bye.
You know, well, you'll have to do it. You have
to get the notes from that guy. We didn't tell
you any notes. He drew a little character, Joseph Robert
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Sola running stairs.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
We did offense those two days, and you missed it.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I'm gonna tell you this. You can see the way
Rogers is talking about the offense. He's not happy. No
one's happy. Next Monday night is high noon for the Jets.
It is the Jets versus themselves in quick draw. It
is quick in the Dead with Leo and Gene Hackman
and and and Sharon Stone. I have to be explaining
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explained to millennials what quick in the Dead is.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It's a stop.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Come on, man, even even even millennials have seen Hoosiers.
Come on, you don't not see them? No, No, yeah,
I don't think so. No, they have, they've seen Hoosiers,
or they've watched Indie to play this year, because they're
actually pretty good connection. They should watch I mean what
he was Luther unforgiven? Sure, unforgiven a classic, which is
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I'm gonna tell you this Rogers versus the offense. It's
Rogers versus the coaching staff. And if next Monday goes badly,
meaning the defense plays well like they did yesterday and
the offense plays terribly like they did against the Vikings,
and they have the last the last few weeks, then
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they are going to a trade for DeVante Adams and
b Either Robert Sala or offense courted Nathaniel Hackett, or
both of them will be fired. This is the Jets
are not gonna go through this year. They're all in
on this year with Aaron Rodgers. They know you can't
let this continue to fester and go. Sala seems like
I'm just punching the clock until I get let go. Now,
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maybe it's not him, and maybe it's Hacket, and and
Rogers runs the offense in like more than likelihood, even
though he likes Nathaniel Hackett. There's gonna be some kind
of change that's to maybe because the offense is there's
no creativity to the all, even if symbolically it has
to change. Well, look, even if he said, hey, we
want to run the football to set the pass, Hey,
maybe we got to do it the other way around.
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And that's how the Jets try to do it every
single We're gonna run the ball with Preese Hall early.
That's not working. Now we're gonna throw it. Then it
takes a while before the second half comes and we
start playing. Well, sometimes you got to throw the football first,
then you can run it like there's no it's one
philosophy the Jets have and it's not working. And even
Aaron Rodgers, who you know, even his best friends, I'll
throw you under the bus if my career is talking.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
About to his family for a decade for christ.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So this is going to It's simply going to happen
if next Monday is not a Jets victory or a
game where hey, if the Jets lose a shootout thirty
one thirty something like that, and the offense shows life
all right, But if not one or two of those
people are getting let go in they're trading for Devonte
Adams and there is a big change in the offense
to potentdctually saved the season because at two and four
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it's not over because you look at the the the AFC,
there's not a lot of great teams. The Bills will
be in first place at four and two but they
have problems. Miami's got problems. Every team in the.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
AFC has problems. So it's not over.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
But they're not going to wait till week eight, week
nine and go, Okay, how do we save the season. No,
it's let's get something in there. Let's have some fresh
ideas because it's clearly not working.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I mean, you got a banged up Bills team in
prime time, right, the opportunities there, and Josh Allen, you know,
it's one of my favorite stats, the turnover worthy plays.
He leads the league. Well he hasn't made him, but whatever.
They run stats on everything, so that becomes a convenient one.
But I mean, you're missing several guys in the back
seven on defense.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, plus he's hurt. You don't know how he's banging.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's gonna be yeah, right, I mean that was a
big thing that was going on your shape.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
The smelling salts. Whoa, this is not nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Four dud dude's head and bounced off the turf like
I saw it, and it just kind of wait, oh oh,
he's fine. We walk come up with smelling salts. Wait
wait what Yeah, no, we're pretty much more advanced than medical.
Now he's gotta go into the tent. He's gotta get
looked at. Yeah, very very fast, very fast turnaround to
get him back on the field. Uh yeah, concerning to
say the least. But Shakira is week to week and
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in the receiving game. Yeah, you got the touchdown from
Coleman and whatever, but you're still trying to round that out.
We talked about Dalton Concate a lot off the air
tonight in terms of fantasy implications and his potential for
the rest of the season. But for Josh Allen, right,
he and Cook have to make the majority of the
plays defensively they are you have the underbelly exposed. And
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let's face it, the clock management by by McDermott. I mean,
he should have been escorted off the out of the
What are you doing, man, go go to overtime? God,
what are you doing on the three yard line? Go
to overtime? You're done? Like that? That was fireable. It's like,
just leave your hat, whistle, whatever else you got. Well
up the rest of your office contents after that. So
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that was disastrous. And zech Taylor, it's like they were
sharing the same brain yesterday. Hey, what do we do
at the end here, Hey, you run the ball and
you throw the ball. No, no, no, it should have
been the other way around the clock man. But again
it's another week where clock management what seemed to be
the basics of football, right football one oh one Football
for Dummies. To go back to that famous series of books.
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Through all the years, we see coaches week after week
from all the guys that you love, you're mcveigh's and
everybody else. They've been guilty of it too, just dopey
decision making. Oh, we're gonna fool because they're gonna fig
He fakes b he pretends to. Next Monday high Noon Spotlight,
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it's gonna be something. The poison pens will be out
exit out bout a Fresco exit, swelling down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon. Coming up
next to the other biggest story from today, but first
special delivery. Steve de Seger has vital statistics on Mets
Game three starter Sean Maney. He needs to tell us
which he will and what's trending.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Actually, I had vital stats from the other series, but yes,
Sean Manray, that's fine too.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Is the starting La Balls thrown into the dugout by
Manny Machado.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You know, we do have the Dave Roberts comment of that,
because he's intent or without. He spoke to the media
about what happened last night dot your Stadium video.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
It was it was unsettling.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Obviously, I have a relationship with Manny from from years past.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
There was intent behind it.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Dah daha, I have a I have a relationship hint.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Not a good one, just right, and we got rid
of him on purpose. He forgot to say the second
half of That's that sentence. The two NL Division series
each continued tomorrow on FS one. The Mets will be
hosting Phillies at five pm Eastern time. All four series,
by the way, are tied at a game apiece for
the first time ever. Sean and I will be the
Met starter against Phil's pitcher Aaron Nola, and then the
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Dodgers are at the Padres nine pm Eastern time. Dodger
pitcher is s Walker Buehler against San Diego's Michael King.
King was acquired for Juan Soto from the Yankees. King
in a wild card game last week against Atlanta seven
scoreless innings, twelve strikeouts, no Walks. The start before was
against the Dodgers, and King went five innings with no
earned runs allowed. His year, his ERA was two point
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nine to five and about two hundred strikeouts, both top
ten in the Major Leagues. Game fours will be on
Wednesday on FS one over in the Alds. The Royals
even things up in that best of five, beating the
Yankees in New York four to two, mikel Garcia with
four hits, Salvador Perez a solo home run. Carlos Rodin
took the loss, allowing four runs in the fourth. Detroit
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won at Cleveland in spectacular fashion three nothing on a
three run homer top of the ninth off the game's
best closer, Emmanuel Clause, hit by Kerry Carpenter, and it
came after two two out singles. Cleveland had won the
opener seven to nothing five runs in the first inning
before Detroit got an out. The Tigers offense over the
weekend four for twenty seven thirteen strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
In game one.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
This was a zero zero game. In the ninth, the
Tigers hit the home run to win it and even
it at a game apiece to the Monday night football
matchup Kansas City five and oh Now beat the Saints
twenty six thirteen. Patrick Mahomes three hundred and thirty one
yards passing and yet Judrew Smith Schuster had the most
receiving yards he's had in any game in a couple
of years, seven receptions for one hundred and thirty yards
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and Kareem Hunt one hundred two yards rushing for the
Chiefs and a touchdown. But the season of Chiefs wide
receiver Rashi Rice is expected to be over due to
his knee ligament injury, according to NFL Media surgery tomorrow.
Patriots safety Jabrill Peppers was arrested over the weekend on
assault and cocaine charges. He pled not guilty.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Today.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Cardinals guard Will Hernandez suffered a season ending knee injury. Yesterday.
Arizona wide receivers A Jones was act after a five
game suspension. The one game team suspension a Packers wide
receiver Romeo Dobbs is over. He's expected to return to
practice on Wednesday. The Jaguars say tight end Evan Ingram
has a good chance of returning to play this weekend
after the hamstring injury, and the Tampa Bay Bucks in
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the morning will fly to New Orleans instead of on
Saturday ahead of Florida's next hurricane. Tampa Bay plays this
Sunday at New Orleans the Saints. After tonight two and three.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O the Jason smithser
with Mike Carmenli from the tyrack dot Com studios and
the last couple of days in Major League Baseball in
the playoffs, we have seen big time closers implode when
you didn't think they were going to yes. Edwin d
has a day Agol like I can't say I didn't
expect it becare He's He's the lamar Odom of MLB closers.
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Every other game he closes now, which you know you
can't do that, but that's kind of what he is.
And he talked about after the game. He comes in
in the seventh inning, gets the Mets out of the
eighth inning, top of the order. He's too cute with
Trey Turner. He walks Bryce Harper and he says, I
probably should have gone after Harper a little bit more,
gives up the big hit to Castianos, gets knocked out
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of the game, and the Mets go on to lose.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Today.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You had this from the best closer in the game.
Nothing nothing game ninth inning, Tigers in the in the Guardians.
Tiger's looking to win, to get back in this series.
At one game apiece. They had two on two out,
but Manuel claus A is in. Everything is fine, well
until this happened.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Kerry Carpenter No. Four day yesterday, swings to the first pitch,
sent it out to te bray Field, sun to Drek,
turns around, he looks up and it's gone touch him
all time. Carry Carpenter.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
That's number fifteen on the year for Carrie had ads
one nothing.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Tiger is here in the first inning. So there was.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Forty two home innings this year. Yeah, he gave up
three or twenty seven save opportunity. He was twenty five
or is twenty seven at home, forty two appearances, forty
two innings pitched, gave up three earned runs. You know,
he's kind of like the new like he's the closest
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thing to Marianna Rivera. We have seen he's been amazing,
I mean just the last year. And then look because
he plays in Cleveland and Cleveland's not a team that
makes the playoffs every year. You kind of do it
a little bit anonymity. He's got a great cutter that
he throws.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
At ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
But he's also not a guy, which is weird because
for a guy that throws as hard as he does
with the pitches he does, he doesn't strike out as
many guys as you think, right, And this is how
you look at intimidating closers. You look at their strikeout totals.
Like Diaz at his best when he would come in, Boy,
he's starting ninety eight ninety nine on the black and
you're chasing it. You're not seeing it. He doesn't strike
out as many, so maybe, but that's kind of Rivera
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as well. He gets a lot of weak contact with
the cutter, he gets a lot of bad swings. But
how does he get beat like this when he never
gets beat?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
How does Devin Williams get beat when he never gets beat?
And and you see this happen to closers in the
play off? Right, Edwin Diaz got Okay, everybody has a
bad exampt but still Edwin Diaz gets beat. What what
do you see happen? But what Edwin Diaz did yesterday
plays into everything else?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Are you throwing up?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
These guys don't have the clutch geens. Oh no, no,
is that what you're doing here when you can't You
can't not be clutch when you pitch the ninth inning, right,
you still you feel all the.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Pressure either in or Yeah, you're You're a.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Different dude, right, Pitchers, goalies, you're a different dude. But
what I what what I'm pretty sure happens because it doesn't.
It doesn't make sense how this guy's giving up one
home run in the last eight years and he gives
up one to a guy hitting one ninety nine, Like,
why does that happen? Closers come in in the ninth
inning in the playoffs and they get too cute or
they're not as aggressive as they need to be for
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whatever reason. Right dzas, I should have gone at Bryce Harper. Yeah,
I know you want to pitch around him, but you
can't put the winning run at second base just because
Ah Harper might hit a home run. He doesn't hit
a home run every time up Right, He's gonna fail
three out of every four times, two out of every
three times. And is he gonna hit a home run
if he gets a base hit, he gets a bass hit.
But pitchers are too cute with opposing batters. What happened
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with Devin Williams that bad ninth inning against the Mets.
He was as good as closer major League Baseball. He
got too cute. He got behind a lot of hitters
because all right, here's a ninth inning, and I think
I should be attacking it this way. Just go and
do your thing. It doesn't matter who was coming up.
You are the biggest, baddest blanker blanker on the planet
when you're coming on that hill on the ninth inning.
And so many closers in the playoffs they kind of
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get too cute about it and class A two you
saw him today, you got runners on a little too
fine with what he wants to throw. I mean you throw,
you throw a cutter over the plate, you throw a
pitch over the plate like that for him to hit.
It's like whoa. But I really, I really think that
that's the main reason why you see main big closers
fail in big moments in the postseason, because they just
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try to get too cute and they're worried about who's
batting in the situation and this and that. Go out
and throw, go out and throw it. Like watching Diaz
the last couple of times he's come into pitch if
someone gets a single, they're on third. It's like it's
like in the Little League, where if you get to first,
you're gonna get to third on a stolen bank. No,
he's not even holding you on at first, and they
steal third without a throw, right Like Trey Turner twice
(30:09):
in this series has gotten on for his base and
he's on third. Just go and and they're not even
covering third, Go steal third base because he's His philosophy is, well,
i'll get somebody else out, okay, but you gotta be aggressive.
You can't continue to pitch around guys. So when I
see this from closers, I go, yeah, I can tell
if mentally you're where you need to be in the
ninth inning. As far as your approach to how to
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take on these bats. You can't get scared. You can't
think about the runners are on base, you can't think
too much. You're you know, come in, use your stuff,
trust your stuff, and throw it. And I don't see
that from a lot of I didn't see it from
closet and the ninth and he gets beat a fair
amount of times for his lights out as he does,
he still gets beat, but not nearly as much as
some of the others. But they all have that in common.
(30:51):
I all see, you're behind every hitter. You're trying to
be a little too fine. Just throw, just trust your
stuff and throw the ball. It's funny as much as
we talked about the difference in philosophy of what managers
are doing when you're talking about bullpen management and all
of that, right, pulling the strings and trying to make
sure that you're rolling over inning the inning and finding
the right guy, the right matchup based on the lineup
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and expectations of shifts and whatever else is Once you
actually are on the hill, the analytics stuff goes out
of the window. Like you dance with what brung you. Right,
You're one of the best closers in the game, and
for close pretty much established as you're the guy, right,
I mean, you're the standard bearer as it is right now.
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So why you wouldn't just keep attacking, I don't know.
Like Carpenter, I mean, you saw his eyes light up
as the ball was coming to the plate, Like even
in the sixty feet six inches, he recognized it immediately
and jumped all over it and then the big celebration
at home plate and you just have this stunned reaction
(31:58):
because well, your best guy got and we've watched it
time and again, and I think you know there's something
to what you're saying here in terms of philosophy and
nibbling and whatever instead of just rear and back and throwing. So, yeah,
shorten the game, get your outs, move on. It's the
same mentality you have in game sixty for a closer.
(32:19):
That shouldn't change, right, That's what makes you who you
are because they're different cats. We know that because once
they're they're broken, right, they don't often get fixed right.
This isn't the repair shop, you know, new spark plugs
and the guy rediscovers it like once you lose that killer,
killer kill shot, that often does not come.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Back for these guys.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So in the postseason to see so many having fleeting success.
We'll see what your guy DS can do tomorrow. But
it's just an interesting part of the sports psychology. Yeah,
I mean, it's I understand that it's a bigger deal
in the playoffs and you want to be you want
to be a little bit more careful, but there's a
(33:02):
fine line between being careful and say, Okay, just I'm
just gonna throw my cutter. I'm just gonna throw my
change up. I'm just gonna throw it here. I'm just
gonna trust my fastball I can put on the black.
I'm just I'm just gonna do that. And I don't
see that. I see I see too much, too much
thinking and too much. All right, we're not playing and
not pitching his fast.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
How about those Tigers even?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Uh? Oh, it's great.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
How my family's off. My family's so excited.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
They're so excited, and they all want My family all
wanted to go to Major League Baseball's office with torches
about the quand play, you know, getting ruled to catch.
I wanted to ask you guys, we'll talk about that
a little later on because I want to. I want
to bring our guys, Steve in on that as well.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Jason, I termed this years ago.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Okay, was sweating Janssen, Yeah sure, sweating Kimbrel.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Sweating kimber Yeah yeah sure, sweating Das Yeah. Oh he's
not even worth it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
It's uh, how about your perspiring with DZ perspiring? H
coming up next, Hey, we've got some late news in
quarterback news in the NFL. You're looking for a big
quarterback change. Maybe it's about to happen. That's next, Jason
to Mike Fox.
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Speaker 2 (34:40):
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Speaker 1 (34:42):
Our eyes do. We have a crazy story coming your
way in about ten minutes about what's going on right
now with the Dodgers not and not the Padres hate
the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Fans thing from yesterday.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
This is a news story. We are crossing gartees and
dotting our eyes on. We're gonna have coming up in
ten minutes and it surrounds the Dodgers Game three starter
in San Diego. Walker Bueller again, We'll have this story
coming up in about ten years.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Mule.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Never a dull moment, No, no crazy, crazy stuff, but.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
New news tonight.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Speaking of new news tonight, if you remember this story
from a few weeks ago, there was a new lawsuit
against Deshaun Watson, Brown's quarterback, about another massage story where
he took advantage of her, and the lawsuit was filed
a few weeks ago. According to the plaintiff's lawyer late tonight,
they have resolved the claim with Deshaun Watson and the
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settlement is confidential. Watson's attorney, Rusty Harden, later also confirmed
the case has been resolved. So as far as the
Brown's getting out of his contract paying whatever they would
have to pay out to him, this was certainly a
variable in that. And now this has been resolved coming
off of an another week of uninspired play from him.
(36:02):
A day ago, the push and the cry to replace
him as getting louder, and we told the beginning of
the season before the season started, this is the Deshaun
Watson you're getting. At some point the Browns are gonna
have had enough of it and they'll go to Jameis
Winston to save the season. And that's going to happen.
And we told you a couple of hey, we can't
be more than a couple of weeks away. Well already
(36:23):
Kevin Stefanski has come out and said, oh, Deshaun's still
our quarterback. That's not going to play for much longer. Well,
we also talked about how every decision he makes gets
discussed within the entire organization. I'm, in other words, haslum
going we paid this guy?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
And that's the whole thing is that there's no way
I can believe that Stefanski wants this because he thinks
things are going to change. He's coached this guy for
a while. He knows this is what you get. He
was threatened with his job a couple of weeks ago,
and this is still what you get. It's uninspired play
and the team is just circling the drain. But why
hasn't this happened? I'll do Bill Maher, I don't know
(37:00):
what for a fact. I only know that it's true
they will move on from Deshaun Watson when Jimmy Haslam
says yes, go ahead, Because this is a guy who
went out on a limb. Oh, let's guarantee all this
money for you, because we need a star quarterback. And
he looks bad because not only not only does he
look bad pr wiseans, Wow, you sign a guy after
all this stuff is going on, you guarantee him all
(37:21):
of this money? Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
After what's going on legally in Houston? That's one thing.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Now he's on the hook for a guy who's a
bad quarterback, and you've and you've sunk all this money
into him, and you even did him a favor by
paying him a million dollars the first year when he
was suspended. Now we're gonna pay you all the rest
of the money, the rest of your thing. But so
this is when when when he decides, and this maybe
this needs to be something where the front office to
fancy gets involved, say, look, you gotta be okay with
us making this move because we're not going anywhere. We're
(37:47):
not playing well. When he decides it's okay to bench him,
he's gonna hit the bench and Jameis Winston's gonna take over.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Ben.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It's gonna be that simple. Just go back to the
off season though, where you had the run you did
with myriad quarterbacks, including Joe Flacco, who would have stayed,
who would have stayed, but they didn't want it in
the quarterback room because they didn't think Watson would be
able to handle. How sad is that right, because that's
the kind of power he's been able to exert between
(38:16):
the contract and it's far reaching effects with the front
office and with ownership, is that they let a guy
who was proven walk out the door. Now, Jameis Winston
could be that guy. He's certainly the emotional leader. He's
gotta leads all the huddles for crying out loud. And
you know, we always talking in you and I and
(38:39):
for the as many years as we've been doing this,
nobody ever sees the retraction on things. Yeah. Right, So
that video that went viral of him from the game
yesterday walking to the sideline, even if it's twelve men
on the field and whatever else, it didn't matter because
the narrative became look at him, quit look at him,
get mad at Stefanski and his teammates and whatever else.
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You don't walk that back, especially when you've got miles
and tons of baggage that had piled up in the background.
That just becomes the latest and next thing on the menu.
I guess the one thing for the Browns is that
you won't see a suspension from the personal conduct policy
the way this got resolved. Yeah, well, well because look, legally, yes,
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that's a big thing. Right this day, when you're looking
at what you owe a guy and can we get
out of a contract? This is now something that is
no longer part of the situation because now it's been resolved.
Were going forward that it's done, there's no charge. We
we've solved this, We're going away. Is this something that
potentially has done so we could save whatever money and
save money from my client. Yeah, but now legally that's
(39:47):
now not a thing. But so now this is simply
gonna be when Jimmy Haslam has had enough and says, okay,
you'll see a change right away the right can we
please not lose this season because we're gonna lose these
ten guys in free age and and they make up
our squad. The fancy is gonna be in the room
with the phone ready to press send. And when you
say it's okay, I'm making that call, that's what's going on.
(40:08):
Trust me. That's when it will happen for Watson. Coming
up next, that crazy story surrounding Walker, Bureau and the
Dodgers
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Greetings, Welcome and side. Would might be the greatest night
in Kansas City sports history?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The greatest night ever?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
No, no, no, j August he is still a guest
of the state. As they say, Uh no, Chiefs win,
Royals beat the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
What's a better night?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Somebody got some barbecue. It's all good. That happens every day. Yeah,
But I mean, if we're gonna go hand trick, I mean,
you may have ended your day great sports game, great
sports game outcome comes your way, and then you get
a giant slab of ribs or you know, but I
could do bad sports game, bad sports game, big fred
flintstone side of ribs that tips over the side of
(01:06):
my car. Yeah, but it's not trumping those other two things.
Because now because there's a difference between hat.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I can do that any day. It's sad.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You don't get the Royals beating the Yankees and the
Chiefs winning on Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
You don't get that. Now I want dinosaur ribs.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Dinosaur he who delivers ribs, just just me put it
on that side. It tips over the Yeah, you would
think that Fred Flintstone would know. Hey, if I order
those big ribs, gonna tip over my car. Eh, but
you know what, heats enough of those ribs, it's gonna
even out Bunnie. I don't know about that, front, but
it's not gonna like that front.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I don't know front.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Jason Goup Front.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Explained to millennials with the Flintstones, I have to explain,
oh yeah, I do, yes, because that's even too much
for them to have watched halle Berry in the Flintstones
back in the early.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
See but now maybe you got folks that now want
to go watch it because you referenced the Great Way. Wait. Wait,
apparently halle Berry was in the show called the Flintstones.
Wait a minute, wait, this show just happened, yes, twenty
years ago, brand new she was fantastic in the Flintstones.
What is that the flintstones. No, I'm just kidding, you're
(02:11):
gen z.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You know what. I used to eat the flintstone gummies.
They're like viam super chalking and stuff, a million strong
and growing.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh yeah, flintstone vitamins with I used to always cut
through and go, I want the red ones because the
red ones were the cherry or the berry ones.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm like, I don't want a green one of the
white one.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Not.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I just want to eat the red ones, all right, flint.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, it said cherry, I said cherry, and the strawberry one,
the red ones. What's your beef with the red one?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
No, the red one is the best one.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It tasted great.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
The other ones were like, yeah, so you're anti white
and anti green white, green.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Purple was always the purple was always worse, Like, really,
you're really going to go after the purple guy just
because it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I'm just saying this viting. How much does Delicious? Who's
my baseball team? Come on, man, you think I'm into
anti purple guys. Grimace is the MVP. He's gonna start game.
Anybody do any rants against Grimace lately that you're aware of.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I don't have any content, So I'm gonna have a
rant against Grimace.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
We'll have more baseball coming up throughout this Again, we
have the all kinds of late drama with the Padres
and the Dodgers, which is just awesome. It's delicious theater
for the playoffs come on now. But we just watched
the Kansaity Chiefs really not have too much difficulty with
the New Orleans Saints. They win it twenty six thirteen,
and even though it feels like it was close, it
(03:37):
really wasn't. There was no point in the game where
I thought, hey, the Saints are really in this. The
only point where maybe it got close to that was
the Saints looked like they were gonna go up twenty
three to seven and the game. But the Chiefs throw
the Seahawks slant on the goal line when they should
have given it to Marshawn Pass, and of course what
happens is it bounces off of Juju Smith Schuster, it's
(03:57):
picked off by a Saints player and they run it
back to midfield. That was where the Saints could have
gotten back in the game at least opened the door. Yeah,
they did not, And it was pretty much just the
Chiefs squeezing like a Boa constrictor until the Saints passed out,
and then they fell through the gullet of the snake.
(04:17):
As we went through the stats, I mean two to
one and the time of possession the basically nicely done. Yeah,
four hundred and sixty total yards, twenty eight first downs.
Grind it out and just get.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The game done.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
This is why you never go too crazy over the
first two weeks of an NFL season, because boy, I
am old enough to remember when after the second week
of the season, the Saints were the greatest team in
the NFL. Look at what the Saints are doing. Oh
more pre Snott motion for Dennis Allen. Look at these
Saints receivers. They're unstoppable. Wait wait, wait, hang on, hang on.
(04:54):
They beat the worst team in the NFL and the
Carolina Panthers. They beat the Cowboys, who maybe the Cowboys stink.
We know we've seen them now for five weeks. The
Cowboys aren't that good. They get absolutely blown out by
the Saints. The Saints are not a great football team. Okay,
this is who the Saint. The Saints are more this
team tonight than they were that team the first two weeks.
(05:14):
Alvin Kamara is twenty nine years old. Sometimes he can
have big games, but most of the times it's like tonight,
eleven carries for twenty six yards. Yes, Rashid Shaheed and
Chris Olave are two pretty good wide receivers, but for
a Lave he has knights like tonight too often two
receptions for ten yards. Rashid Sahait is turning into a
big weapon, right, not saying he's not. He's turning into
a guy that you can count on more and more.
(05:35):
Had a nice breakthrough year last year, but this is
not a great Saints team. They didn't make a lot
of moves in the offseason to get better. This is
not a team that drafted particularly incredibly well, signed a
lot of players in free agency. This was Maybe year
two will be a little bit better than year one now,
But the first two weeks we paid so much attention
to because it's the only two weeks of the season.
(05:56):
If the Saints had had a two week stretch Week
eight to Week nine where they beat the Carolina Panthers
pretty badly and they thumped the Cowboys, it would be
whoa look at the Saints thumping the Cowboys. We talk
about it for five minutes and then we moved on.
But instead it was, oh, look at the Saints. How
good they are. They can't be Stop's like, well stop
stop stop. Yes, yes, they blew out the Cowboys. We've
(06:19):
seen the Cowboys lose like this before. We've seen we
just saw this happen to the Cowboys the first week
of the playoffs against the Packers and Jordan Love and
his first playoff game. We've seen this movie. We've seen
it happen. But because it was the first two weeks,
let's go crazy talk about the Saints, how great they are.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I told it for the season.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
The Saints are going to be fighting for the number
one overall picking the draft, and right now they're closer
to that team than they were the team the first
two weeks. Yeah, on the board, put I put that
that we have in the studio, right and Super Bowl
winners and participants and all that stuff. We have the
you know, random predictions like, yeah, who's gonna be the worst?
They'll be the worst. But it's all said done, Dennis
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Allen is still gonna be the guy most likely, maybe
after Robert Salah to get fired. And you go on
down the list. But Derek Carr is a jag. I mean,
we've seen this now. The fact that he unleashes more
deep balls for Rashid Shahed is a nice addition to
the offense, no question. But you knew this coming into
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this game three and fourteen against the Chiefs. In his
career before tonight tackling on the wrong side once again,
he's been dominated for Billar to post and Kamara couldn't
find room to run. He's even last year he was
more a receiver than he was a runner. Right, seventy
five catches and that's where he makes his hay. And
so you look at this squad defensively, they don't have
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enough of the workhorses. And they did the job to
force the Chiefs to centle for field goals. But I
think they were more than happy and contended to just
put up threes. Why because they knew the Saints offense
except for that one big hit to Shahed, there wasn't
a whole lot going on.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
A lave was erased.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
No, they probably thought, and I'm sure they did. The
big whiff of the draft pick for them right now
is Kendre Miller, Because I'm sure they thought we're drafting him.
He's a really good running back. We have visions of
him and Alvin Kamara being the one two punch. And
he can't even stay in the field. He can't stay healthy.
He's been on i R since the beginning of the year.
Dennis Allen didn't have anything good to say about him
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in the preseason. Got to be able to play. So, yeah,
was that a pick that didn't go well for him? Yeah,
So when you're talking about certain things that need to happen,
it just hasn't. And when the competition got a little
bit tougher, the Saints are coming up with El's right. Carolina.
They played five games so far. The two worst teams
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they've played are the teams they've beaten. They beat Carolina,
they beat Dallas. They played Philadelphia, Atlanta and Kansas City,
all teams better than Dallas and Carolina, not to varying extent.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
The Chiefs are the best team.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
They played Atlanta and Philadelphia kind of in the middle,
but they're a little bit of a step up from Dallas.
And they lost both of those games. Yes they were close,
but they still lost. They still found a way to
not win. And now they're two and three They're gonna
play Tampa Bay next week. Who knows where Derek Carr
is gonna be health wise, They're gonna lose that game. Now,
suddenly Denver is is better then expected. The schedule just
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gets a little bit harder for them. And the Saints
are the walking definition of why you don't pay so
much attention to the first two weeks of the NFL season.
You get to the quarter pole in four or five,
all right, you get a little bit more of a
sample size. But because it's the first two weeks, and
people can't come up with and and and pundits and
experts and people on TV, Hey, I'm sorry that you
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can't come up with something better to talk about. Where
I'm gonna artificially talk about how great this football team is. Okay, now,
now let me see what we have to say about
the Saints. Are you walking back what you said the
first two weeks, how great they are, unstoppable, They're now
this is kind of who the Saints were. This is
a if you told me the Saints to be two
and three at this point, I say, yeah, oh, that's
actually probably better than I thought they would be. But
this is who they are. Yeah, I mean coming out
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of Week two, I mean you have to ask the question,
you know what changed, you know what in terms of
their offensive philosophy or whatever else. And to your point, yeah,
you're playing a couple of bad teams, but the show
shows as we do them or anybody in our biz
are in that moment, and it's not to suddenly crown them.
I mean, I think a bunch of folks went out
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to Vegas and that over under number that was seven
and a half all off season suddenly jumped to ten
and a half, which was absolutely foolhardy. So Vegas will
build another wing on some of those big hotels coming
out of whatever money came flying in. But in the moment,
it's a all right. At least it looks functional, right,
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and they're doing a little bit something more dynamic than
they did a year ago, And certainly Rashid Shaheed is
a big part of that. Like I said, I mean,
Derek Carr, at least not checking down every down is
a beautiful thing, right. If you can actually try to
stretch the field every now and again, maybe some some
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good results. If nothing else, we know you can draw
some pass interference calls. The way things are adjudicated in
this uh this man's National Football League in twenty twenty four.
But yeah, never thought they were gonna be good. But
for two weeks it was a fun little ride, right.
I mean we've had that with a lot of teams
actually through the first five weeks, and it's like, look
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at them gun now or for what I mean, Look,
we can all be heroes. Just one day they put
up a big point total.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
What they do the other four weeks? Oh no, I mean, Jason,
we thought the Jets were good, Dude.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I love more than the Jets on the Jets in
a few minutes, you do, but we'll take it to
the larger in a moment. But to you know, address
it here in the now. Right, that game against New England,
there were a lot of positive things to look at
in terms of mobility and whatever. Rogers, well, we know
what the Patriots are. Patriots think, right. We did our
parlays right that we did on on Friday. What did
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I say the Jets beat They beat two teams in
stinks thirty six point spread, our thirty six point over under.
Like my part of the parlay was, this isn't coming
anywhere close to thirty six points final score fifteen ten. Well, Gretchen,
thank you for watching the worst football game and the
three of the NFL. You know what, I think I'm
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safely gonna put that one down at number two seventy
two on my rankings.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I mean, that might be in the two seventies. But
we still got a ways to go.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But I know, but right now, right now, I'll just
pencil it in down at the Remember we got some
bad December football. That's good bad December football or Jets games.
I would say, I will say this, that Dolphins Patriots
game at the end of the year. That will and
I feel pretty good about this, that will easily be
if you ranking the games one through two seventy two,
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that will easy easily be an after two sixty five.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh yeah, no, there's no question.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah. I mean we might have a couple of shutouts
thrown in and you know, some early work from the
Panthers will be considered no doubt. Exit out about a
fresh exit swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Carmen. Again, it's why you don't spend
so much time on the first two weeks of the season.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Coming up next, we'll have more from the NFL. Yeah,
I'll tell you what is next for the Jets and
why next week is gonna be absolute wildfire. Plus we
get back into the biggest story of the day from
sports and ending that none of us saw coming. That's
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Oh five second Dance Party. I'm gonna keep this as
my ringtone forever. It's my ringtone for Pam and Zacher.
It's my ringtone for Pam and Zoe. You know, we
just get this is house's ringtone. Yeah, I'm like, well,
you're my team. Like how you're my team? You, Pam
and Zoe, You're my team. So whenever it rings, I go, oh,
it's my team. Hello, moron, what what what do you want?
Stupid positivity? It's my team. Ring, it's my team, never change.
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Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
Live the diirec dot Com Studios.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's my team, it's my team.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It's my team. Uh, we'll get to a big story
out of Major League Baseball today coming up in a
few minutes. Boy, and this is not it's not even
Dodgers padres late. We have not to get to as well.
But let me tell you this, because there's so much
talk coming off of yesterday. The Vikings went over the
Jets early, which I say early because it was early
for me getting up to watch them stink.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Early here West Coast thirty kickoff. Come on.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
There's lots of things that went wrong with the Jets
right another game, they start slow before they have to
come back. Aaron Rodgers is not good. Three interceptions and
and and especially one to lose the game when I thought, okay,
they could pull this out.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And you got Van ginkld.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, he's got more touchdowns than most of your high
price and wide receivers. Only does is get pick sixes.
It's all that's. Doesn't score touch man that jacket his
mom or whoever that was, I swear it was pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
No, Van Ginkle. All he does is score touch He's
the new Chris Carter.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's all he does.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Ginkle.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yes, Ben Ginkle, did he sleep for a hundred years? Yes,
that's exactly that. He woke up, caught the pass from
Rodgers and goes in.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
For his nickname was Rip growing up.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I'm gonna tell you this because there's so much talk
about the Jets and what's gonna happen Aaron Rodgers, How
bad is he? Let me let me give you something different. Uh,
you could already tell the last couple of weeks Rogers versus.
The offense has been boiling. It's not been great. And
I'm the free first person to tell you the offense
does not. It's they have two good players on it.
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The players are too good for it to be this bad.
Right when you're talking about Breist Hall and Braylan Allen,
two of the best one two punch running backs you'll
get in the game. You have Garrett Wilson, you have
a pretty good tight end Tyler Conklin. The offensive line
is good enough. It's not great, but it's good enough.
And you have Aaron Rodgers a quarterback. It should not
be this bad. And forget about Oh, Aaron Rodge shouldn't
have gone to Egypt. No, there is plenty of times.
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That's two practices, right, there's two practices. He did go
to you, But it's a microcosm of the larger disconnection discord. Aaron,
you missed the two days we did offense. A sorry bye.
You know, well, you'll have to do it. You have
to get the notes from that guy. We didn't tell
you any notes. He drew a little character, Joseph Robert
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Sola running stairs.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
We did offense those two days, and you missed it.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I'm gonna tell you this. You can see the way
Rogers is talking about the offense. He's not happy. No
one's happy. Next Monday night is high noon for the Jets.
It is the Jets versus themselves in quick draw. It
is quick in the Dead with Leo and Gene Hackman
and and and Sharon Stone. I have to be explaining
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explained to millennials what quick in the Dead is.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It's a stop.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Come on, man, even even even millennials have seen Hoosiers.
Come on, you don't not see them? No, No, yeah,
I don't think so. No, they have, they've seen Hoosiers,
or they've watched Indie to play this year, because they're
actually pretty good connection. They should watch I mean what
he was Luther unforgiven? Sure, unforgiven a classic, which is
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I'm gonna tell you this Rogers versus the offense. It's
Rogers versus the coaching staff. And if next Monday goes badly,
meaning the defense plays well like they did yesterday and
the offense plays terribly like they did against the Vikings,
and they have the last the last few weeks, then
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they are going to a trade for DeVante Adams and
b Either Robert Sala or offense courted Nathaniel Hackett, or
both of them will be fired. This is the Jets
are not gonna go through this year. They're all in
on this year with Aaron Rodgers. They know you can't
let this continue to fester and go. Sala seems like
I'm just punching the clock until I get let go. Now,
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maybe it's not him, and maybe it's Hacket, and and
Rogers runs the offense in like more than likelihood, even
though he likes Nathaniel Hackett. There's gonna be some kind
of change that's to maybe because the offense is there's
no creativity to the all, even if symbolically it has
to change. Well, look, even if he said, hey, we
want to run the football to set the pass, Hey,
maybe we got to do it the other way around.
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And that's how the Jets try to do it every
single We're gonna run the ball with Preese Hall early.
That's not working. Now we're gonna throw it. Then it
takes a while before the second half comes and we
start playing. Well, sometimes you got to throw the football first,
then you can run it like there's no it's one
philosophy the Jets have and it's not working. And even
Aaron Rodgers, who you know, even his best friends, I'll
throw you under the bus if my career is talking.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
About to his family for a decade for christ.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So this is going to It's simply going to happen
if next Monday is not a Jets victory or a
game where hey, if the Jets lose a shootout thirty
one thirty something like that, and the offense shows life
all right, But if not one or two of those
people are getting let go in they're trading for Devonte
Adams and there is a big change in the offense
to potentdctually saved the season because at two and four
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it's not over because you look at the the the AFC,
there's not a lot of great teams. The Bills will
be in first place at four and two but they
have problems. Miami's got problems. Every team in the.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
AFC has problems. So it's not over.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
But they're not going to wait till week eight, week
nine and go, Okay, how do we save the season. No,
it's let's get something in there. Let's have some fresh
ideas because it's clearly not working.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I mean, you got a banged up Bills team in
prime time, right, the opportunities there, and Josh Allen, you know,
it's one of my favorite stats, the turnover worthy plays.
He leads the league. Well he hasn't made him, but whatever.
They run stats on everything, so that becomes a convenient one.
But I mean, you're missing several guys in the back
seven on defense.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, plus he's hurt. You don't know how he's banging.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's gonna be yeah, right, I mean that was a
big thing that was going on your shape.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
The smelling salts. Whoa, this is not nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Four dud dude's head and bounced off the turf like
I saw it, and it just kind of wait, oh oh,
he's fine. We walk come up with smelling salts. Wait
wait what Yeah, no, we're pretty much more advanced than medical.
Now he's gotta go into the tent. He's gotta get
looked at. Yeah, very very fast, very fast turnaround to
get him back on the field. Uh yeah, concerning to
say the least. But Shakira is week to week and
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in the receiving game. Yeah, you got the touchdown from
Coleman and whatever, but you're still trying to round that out.
We talked about Dalton Concate a lot off the air
tonight in terms of fantasy implications and his potential for
the rest of the season. But for Josh Allen, right,
he and Cook have to make the majority of the
plays defensively they are you have the underbelly exposed. And
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let's face it, the clock management by by McDermott. I mean,
he should have been escorted off the out of the
What are you doing, man, go go to overtime? God,
what are you doing on the three yard line? Go
to overtime? You're done? Like that? That was fireable. It's like,
just leave your hat, whistle, whatever else you got. Well
up the rest of your office contents after that. So
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that was disastrous. And zech Taylor, it's like they were
sharing the same brain yesterday. Hey, what do we do
at the end here, Hey, you run the ball and
you throw the ball. No, no, no, it should have
been the other way around the clock man. But again
it's another week where clock management what seemed to be
the basics of football, right football one oh one Football
for Dummies. To go back to that famous series of books.
(21:25):
Through all the years, we see coaches week after week
from all the guys that you love, you're mcveigh's and
everybody else. They've been guilty of it too, just dopey
decision making. Oh, we're gonna fool because they're gonna fig
He fakes b he pretends to. Next Monday high Noon Spotlight,
(21:50):
it's gonna be something. The poison pens will be out
exit out bout a Fresco exit, swelling down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon. Coming up
next to the other biggest story from today, but first
special delivery. Steve de Seger has vital statistics on Mets
Game three starter Sean Maney. He needs to tell us
which he will and what's trending.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Actually, I had vital stats from the other series, but yes,
Sean Manray, that's fine too.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Is the starting La Balls thrown into the dugout by
Manny Machado.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You know, we do have the Dave Roberts comment of that,
because he's intent or without. He spoke to the media
about what happened last night dot your Stadium video.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
It was it was unsettling.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Obviously, I have a relationship with Manny from from years past.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
There was intent behind it.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Dah daha, I have a I have a relationship hint.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Not a good one, just right, and we got rid
of him on purpose. He forgot to say the second
half of That's that sentence. The two NL Division series
each continued tomorrow on FS one. The Mets will be
hosting Phillies at five pm Eastern time. All four series,
by the way, are tied at a game apiece for
the first time ever. Sean and I will be the
Met starter against Phil's pitcher Aaron Nola, and then the
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Dodgers are at the Padres nine pm Eastern time. Dodger
pitcher is s Walker Buehler against San Diego's Michael King.
King was acquired for Juan Soto from the Yankees. King
in a wild card game last week against Atlanta seven
scoreless innings, twelve strikeouts, no Walks. The start before was
against the Dodgers, and King went five innings with no
earned runs allowed. His year, his ERA was two point
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nine to five and about two hundred strikeouts, both top
ten in the Major Leagues. Game fours will be on
Wednesday on FS one over in the Alds. The Royals
even things up in that best of five, beating the
Yankees in New York four to two, mikel Garcia with
four hits, Salvador Perez a solo home run. Carlos Rodin
took the loss, allowing four runs in the fourth. Detroit
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won at Cleveland in spectacular fashion three nothing on a
three run homer top of the ninth off the game's
best closer, Emmanuel Clause, hit by Kerry Carpenter, and it
came after two two out singles. Cleveland had won the
opener seven to nothing five runs in the first inning
before Detroit got an out. The Tigers offense over the
weekend four for twenty seven thirteen strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
In game one.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
This was a zero zero game. In the ninth, the
Tigers hit the home run to win it and even
it at a game apiece to the Monday night football
matchup Kansas City five and oh Now beat the Saints
twenty six thirteen. Patrick Mahomes three hundred and thirty one
yards passing and yet Judrew Smith Schuster had the most
receiving yards he's had in any game in a couple
of years, seven receptions for one hundred and thirty yards
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and Kareem Hunt one hundred two yards rushing for the
Chiefs and a touchdown. But the season of Chiefs wide
receiver Rashi Rice is expected to be over due to
his knee ligament injury, according to NFL Media surgery tomorrow.
Patriots safety Jabrill Peppers was arrested over the weekend on
assault and cocaine charges. He pled not guilty.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Today.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Cardinals guard Will Hernandez suffered a season ending knee injury. Yesterday.
Arizona wide receivers A Jones was act after a five
game suspension. The one game team suspension a Packers wide
receiver Romeo Dobbs is over. He's expected to return to
practice on Wednesday. The Jaguars say tight end Evan Ingram
has a good chance of returning to play this weekend
after the hamstring injury, and the Tampa Bay Bucks in
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the morning will fly to New Orleans instead of on
Saturday ahead of Florida's next hurricane. Tampa Bay plays this
Sunday at New Orleans the Saints. After tonight two and three.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O the Jason smithser
with Mike Carmenli from the tyrack dot Com studios and
the last couple of days in Major League Baseball in
the playoffs, we have seen big time closers implode when
you didn't think they were going to yes. Edwin d
has a day Agol like I can't say I didn't
expect it becare He's He's the lamar Odom of MLB closers.
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Every other game he closes now, which you know you
can't do that, but that's kind of what he is.
And he talked about after the game. He comes in
in the seventh inning, gets the Mets out of the
eighth inning, top of the order. He's too cute with
Trey Turner. He walks Bryce Harper and he says, I
probably should have gone after Harper a little bit more,
gives up the big hit to Castianos, gets knocked out
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of the game, and the Mets go on to lose.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Today.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You had this from the best closer in the game.
Nothing nothing game ninth inning, Tigers in the in the Guardians.
Tiger's looking to win, to get back in this series.
At one game apiece. They had two on two out,
but Manuel claus A is in. Everything is fine, well
until this happened.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Kerry Carpenter No. Four day yesterday, swings to the first pitch,
sent it out to te bray Field, sun to Drek,
turns around, he looks up and it's gone touch him
all time. Carry Carpenter.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
That's number fifteen on the year for Carrie had ads
one nothing.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Tiger is here in the first inning. So there was.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Forty two home innings this year. Yeah, he gave up
three or twenty seven save opportunity. He was twenty five
or is twenty seven at home, forty two appearances, forty
two innings pitched, gave up three earned runs. You know,
he's kind of like the new like he's the closest
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thing to Marianna Rivera. We have seen he's been amazing,
I mean just the last year. And then look because
he plays in Cleveland and Cleveland's not a team that
makes the playoffs every year. You kind of do it
a little bit anonymity. He's got a great cutter that
he throws.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
At ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
But he's also not a guy, which is weird because
for a guy that throws as hard as he does
with the pitches he does, he doesn't strike out as
many guys as you think, right, And this is how
you look at intimidating closers. You look at their strikeout totals.
Like Diaz at his best when he would come in, Boy,
he's starting ninety eight ninety nine on the black and
you're chasing it. You're not seeing it. He doesn't strike
out as many, so maybe, but that's kind of Rivera
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as well. He gets a lot of weak contact with
the cutter, he gets a lot of bad swings. But
how does he get beat like this when he never
gets beat?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
How does Devin Williams get beat when he never gets beat?
And and you see this happen to closers in the
play off? Right, Edwin Diaz got Okay, everybody has a
bad exampt but still Edwin Diaz gets beat. What what
do you see happen? But what Edwin Diaz did yesterday
plays into everything else?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Are you throwing up?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
These guys don't have the clutch geens. Oh no, no,
is that what you're doing here when you can't You
can't not be clutch when you pitch the ninth inning, right,
you still you feel all the.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Pressure either in or Yeah, you're You're a.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Different dude, right, Pitchers, goalies, you're a different dude. But
what I what what I'm pretty sure happens because it doesn't.
It doesn't make sense how this guy's giving up one
home run in the last eight years and he gives
up one to a guy hitting one ninety nine, Like,
why does that happen? Closers come in in the ninth
inning in the playoffs and they get too cute or
they're not as aggressive as they need to be for
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whatever reason. Right dzas, I should have gone at Bryce Harper. Yeah,
I know you want to pitch around him, but you
can't put the winning run at second base just because
Ah Harper might hit a home run. He doesn't hit
a home run every time up Right, He's gonna fail
three out of every four times, two out of every
three times. And is he gonna hit a home run
if he gets a base hit, he gets a bass hit.
But pitchers are too cute with opposing batters. What happened
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with Devin Williams that bad ninth inning against the Mets.
He was as good as closer major League Baseball. He
got too cute. He got behind a lot of hitters
because all right, here's a ninth inning, and I think
I should be attacking it this way. Just go and
do your thing. It doesn't matter who was coming up.
You are the biggest, baddest blanker blanker on the planet
when you're coming on that hill on the ninth inning.
And so many closers in the playoffs they kind of
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get too cute about it and class A two you
saw him today, you got runners on a little too
fine with what he wants to throw. I mean you throw,
you throw a cutter over the plate, you throw a
pitch over the plate like that for him to hit.
It's like whoa. But I really, I really think that
that's the main reason why you see main big closers
fail in big moments in the postseason, because they just
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try to get too cute and they're worried about who's
batting in the situation and this and that. Go out
and throw, go out and throw it. Like watching Diaz
the last couple of times he's come into pitch if
someone gets a single, they're on third. It's like it's
like in the Little League, where if you get to first,
you're gonna get to third on a stolen bank. No,
he's not even holding you on at first, and they
steal third without a throw, right Like Trey Turner twice
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in this series has gotten on for his base and
he's on third. Just go and and they're not even
covering third, Go steal third base because he's His philosophy is, well,
i'll get somebody else out, okay, but you gotta be aggressive.
You can't continue to pitch around guys. So when I
see this from closers, I go, yeah, I can tell
if mentally you're where you need to be in the
ninth inning. As far as your approach to how to
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take on these bats. You can't get scared. You can't
think about the runners are on base, you can't think
too much. You're you know, come in, use your stuff,
trust your stuff, and throw it. And I don't see
that from a lot of I didn't see it from
closet and the ninth and he gets beat a fair
amount of times for his lights out as he does,
he still gets beat, but not nearly as much as
some of the others. But they all have that in common.
(30:51):
I all see, you're behind every hitter. You're trying to
be a little too fine. Just throw, just trust your
stuff and throw the ball. It's funny as much as
we talked about the difference in philosophy of what managers
are doing when you're talking about bullpen management and all
of that, right, pulling the strings and trying to make
sure that you're rolling over inning the inning and finding
the right guy, the right matchup based on the lineup
(31:13):
and expectations of shifts and whatever else is Once you
actually are on the hill, the analytics stuff goes out
of the window. Like you dance with what brung you. Right,
You're one of the best closers in the game, and
for close pretty much established as you're the guy, right,
I mean, you're the standard bearer as it is right now.
(31:35):
So why you wouldn't just keep attacking, I don't know.
Like Carpenter, I mean, you saw his eyes light up
as the ball was coming to the plate, Like even
in the sixty feet six inches, he recognized it immediately
and jumped all over it and then the big celebration
at home plate and you just have this stunned reaction
(31:58):
because well, your best guy got and we've watched it
time and again, and I think you know there's something
to what you're saying here in terms of philosophy and
nibbling and whatever instead of just rear and back and throwing. So, yeah,
shorten the game, get your outs, move on. It's the
same mentality you have in game sixty for a closer.
(32:19):
That shouldn't change, right, That's what makes you who you
are because they're different cats. We know that because once
they're they're broken, right, they don't often get fixed right.
This isn't the repair shop, you know, new spark plugs
and the guy rediscovers it like once you lose that killer,
killer kill shot, that often does not come.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Back for these guys.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So in the postseason to see so many having fleeting success.
We'll see what your guy DS can do tomorrow. But
it's just an interesting part of the sports psychology. Yeah,
I mean, it's I understand that it's a bigger deal
in the playoffs and you want to be you want
to be a little bit more careful, but there's a
(33:02):
fine line between being careful and say, Okay, just I'm
just gonna throw my cutter. I'm just gonna throw my
change up. I'm just gonna throw it here. I'm just
gonna trust my fastball I can put on the black.
I'm just I'm just gonna do that. And I don't
see that. I see I see too much, too much
thinking and too much. All right, we're not playing and
not pitching his fast.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
How about those Tigers even?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Uh? Oh, it's great.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
How my family's off. My family's so excited.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
They're so excited, and they all want My family all
wanted to go to Major League Baseball's office with torches
about the quand play, you know, getting ruled to catch.
I wanted to ask you guys, we'll talk about that
a little later on because I want to. I want
to bring our guys, Steve in on that as well.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Jason, I termed this years ago.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Okay, was sweating Janssen, Yeah sure, sweating Kimbrel.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Sweating kimber Yeah yeah sure, sweating Das Yeah. Oh he's
not even worth it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
It's uh, how about your perspiring with DZ perspiring? H
coming up next, Hey, we've got some late news in
quarterback news in the NFL. You're looking for a big
quarterback change. Maybe it's about to happen. That's next, Jason
to Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
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Speaker 1 (34:14):
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might be a real memory, but memory of me really sweaty,
jumping up and down and dancing.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Maybe it was implanted, like you were in total recall.
I'm just this memory.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I'm just really sweaty and dancing. Hey, come on, do
you want to dance with me? Just jumping up and down?
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Speaker 2 (34:40):
We are crossing our t's and dotting.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Our eyes do. We have a crazy story coming your
way in about ten minutes about what's going on right
now with the Dodgers not and not the Padres hate
the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Fans thing from yesterday.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
This is a news story. We are crossing gartees and
dotting our eyes on. We're gonna have coming up in
ten minutes and it surrounds the Dodgers Game three starter
in San Diego. Walker Bueller again, We'll have this story
coming up in about ten years.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Mule.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Never a dull moment, No, no crazy, crazy stuff, but.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
New news tonight.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Speaking of new news tonight, if you remember this story
from a few weeks ago, there was a new lawsuit
against Deshaun Watson, Brown's quarterback, about another massage story where
he took advantage of her, and the lawsuit was filed
a few weeks ago. According to the plaintiff's lawyer late tonight,
they have resolved the claim with Deshaun Watson and the
(35:41):
settlement is confidential. Watson's attorney, Rusty Harden, later also confirmed
the case has been resolved. So as far as the
Brown's getting out of his contract paying whatever they would
have to pay out to him, this was certainly a
variable in that. And now this has been resolved coming
off of an another week of uninspired play from him.
(36:02):
A day ago, the push and the cry to replace
him as getting louder, and we told the beginning of
the season before the season started, this is the Deshaun
Watson you're getting. At some point the Browns are gonna
have had enough of it and they'll go to Jameis
Winston to save the season. And that's going to happen.
And we told you a couple of hey, we can't
be more than a couple of weeks away. Well already
(36:23):
Kevin Stefanski has come out and said, oh, Deshaun's still
our quarterback. That's not going to play for much longer. Well,
we also talked about how every decision he makes gets
discussed within the entire organization. I'm, in other words, haslum
going we paid this guy?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
And that's the whole thing is that there's no way
I can believe that Stefanski wants this because he thinks
things are going to change. He's coached this guy for
a while. He knows this is what you get. He
was threatened with his job a couple of weeks ago,
and this is still what you get. It's uninspired play
and the team is just circling the drain. But why
hasn't this happened? I'll do Bill Maher, I don't know
(37:00):
what for a fact. I only know that it's true
they will move on from Deshaun Watson when Jimmy Haslam
says yes, go ahead, Because this is a guy who
went out on a limb. Oh, let's guarantee all this
money for you, because we need a star quarterback. And
he looks bad because not only not only does he
look bad pr wiseans, Wow, you sign a guy after
all this stuff is going on, you guarantee him all
(37:21):
of this money? Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
After what's going on legally in Houston? That's one thing.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Now he's on the hook for a guy who's a
bad quarterback, and you've and you've sunk all this money
into him, and you even did him a favor by
paying him a million dollars the first year when he
was suspended. Now we're gonna pay you all the rest
of the money, the rest of your thing. But so
this is when when when he decides, and this maybe
this needs to be something where the front office to
fancy gets involved, say, look, you gotta be okay with
us making this move because we're not going anywhere. We're
(37:47):
not playing well. When he decides it's okay to bench him,
he's gonna hit the bench and Jameis Winston's gonna take over.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Ben.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It's gonna be that simple. Just go back to the
off season though, where you had the run you did
with myriad quarterbacks, including Joe Flacco, who would have stayed,
who would have stayed, but they didn't want it in
the quarterback room because they didn't think Watson would be
able to handle. How sad is that right, because that's
the kind of power he's been able to exert between
(38:16):
the contract and it's far reaching effects with the front
office and with ownership, is that they let a guy
who was proven walk out the door. Now, Jameis Winston
could be that guy. He's certainly the emotional leader. He's
gotta leads all the huddles for crying out loud. And
you know, we always talking in you and I and
(38:39):
for the as many years as we've been doing this,
nobody ever sees the retraction on things. Yeah. Right, So
that video that went viral of him from the game
yesterday walking to the sideline, even if it's twelve men
on the field and whatever else, it didn't matter because
the narrative became look at him, quit look at him,
get mad at Stefanski and his teammates and whatever else.
(39:00):
You don't walk that back, especially when you've got miles
and tons of baggage that had piled up in the background.
That just becomes the latest and next thing on the menu.
I guess the one thing for the Browns is that
you won't see a suspension from the personal conduct policy
the way this got resolved. Yeah, well, well because look, legally, yes,
(39:25):
that's a big thing. Right this day, when you're looking
at what you owe a guy and can we get
out of a contract? This is now something that is
no longer part of the situation because now it's been resolved.
Were going forward that it's done, there's no charge. We
we've solved this, We're going away. Is this something that
potentially has done so we could save whatever money and
save money from my client. Yeah, but now legally that's
(39:47):
now not a thing. But so now this is simply
gonna be when Jimmy Haslam has had enough and says, okay,
you'll see a change right away the right can we
please not lose this season because we're gonna lose these
ten guys in free age and and they make up
our squad. The fancy is gonna be in the room
with the phone ready to press send. And when you
say it's okay, I'm making that call, that's what's going on.
(40:08):
Trust me. That's when it will happen for Watson. Coming
up next, that crazy story surrounding Walker, Bureau and the
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