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Jason Smith & Mike Harmon talk about Shohei Ohtani's first playoff series ever and why he will make a difference for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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We got some big baseball series to break down. We
got some stuff to get into with Otani coming up
in a minute. But I want to ask you this,
Mike Carmon, I would ask you this.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
So Syracuse wins tonight UNLV and unbelo believable game. So
much offense in this forty four to forty one in overtime.
UNLV had never been ranked before, was the greatest they
had been, all the drama with their former quarterback. Oh yeah,
But as I said earlier, when you play a game
on national TV, everybody understands a lot more. What you

(01:17):
do is magnified, and people are gonna understand just how
great a quarterback Kyle McCord is. He's been incredible the
first four weeks. But you saw him tonight. Everybody got
to see boy. Maybe it wasn't his fault with Ohio State.
He's the smartest guy on the field. He's always in control,
he's smooth, looks like he's wearing slides the way his
cleets are decorated. So I'm gonna ask you this, how

(01:40):
many times you think you threw the football tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Oh? At LEAs fifty fifty five.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Sixty three? There he was forty of six. Now, the
game did go to overtime, but it was only one possession.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
For Syracuse and you did get to steal three.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, sixty three pass attempts in a one over ten
game for Kyle McCord forty out of sixty three for
three fifty five and three touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yeah, I keep hearing take my breath away, like you
know we're doing the Ocean's eleven montage of the three
almost greatest hests in Vegas history. Take my breath though,
way it came they saw they conquered, Well you are
able to get away with it with your handful of
loot because they wiped off the targeting penalty, right and

(02:26):
so was that still roughing the passer? Then? Well, no,
it was no longer helmet to helmet because that was
one step.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, it's one step of he but it's it was
about the ejection, I think, is what they do.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
It's about the ejection. Is he?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Is it targeting for an ejection versus targeting for the penalty?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Is more? Is more? What it was? Well, but if
you're calling targeting, that means there was helmet to helmet.
If there's no helmet to helmet, is it still is
it still roughing when you just take one step into
him as he released the ball, the guy takes once depth.
So like that's the great debate coming out of it.
Because of course, since it is a nationally televised game

(03:06):
as part of the Fox family. Uh, you know that
gets extra scrutiny, Like we always talk about, you get
those ISO games you take the good, and the referees
right now are taking the bad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well, I mean you look at it. It's a it's
a helmet to helmet. And he launched himself at McCord
and he hitting me helmet to helmet. I mean, I
don't know what they were trying to look at to
try to like they're trying to look away to keep
him into the game, like you know, I don't know,
but it's pretty it's pretty definitive that you know he
goes in, it's helmet to helmet.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah. I haven't seen definitively helmet to helmet. Dude, see
the replay I've seen about thirty times. Really you don't
see helmet helmet, well, then you're blind.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Then you can't see. I'm sorry you lost the power
of sight. I'm sorry you saw it. But listen to Syracuse. Guy,
don't get mad at me. Just look you got the win.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Uh So, yes, that is true. That is true. Uh
now uh.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Going into what we saw the last couple of days
in Major League Baseball, getting into the rounds of playoffs
that go in tomorrow. First thing I want to say,
is this the last guy I'm worried about, is show Hey, Otani.
He had a big answer today in a press conference
when he was asked, you know, because show Hayes got
an interpreter, because you know, we kind of know that
after the last few months, boy, it seems forever agoing

(04:19):
with Epey, right, it seems like a lifetime ago. He
gets asked about his status going into this series. How
does he feel? Is he nervous any kind of nerves
going in? And he just says before the interpreter can
ask the question, Otani says no.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
So maybe Otani understands a little bit more anything he
does you know about I never believed I got the
interpreter here.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I got the interpreter here, and uh, all right, I
can make sure that I can make sure that I
shield myself when I want to. But he says no, uh,
and I look, there's many players where you worry about
them their first postseason after becoming a big superstar. I
understand that it's a it's a bigger spotlight. There has

(05:05):
to do a lot. I have zero concern about show
Heotan zero. He's gonna be incredible just like.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
He has always been.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
The thing is and and it's for Otani is who's
gonna wind up winning the series. Because I'll sell you
this is gonna be the key of all the different
things Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
We've talked about the Dodgers pitching for so long.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's gonna be Will Otani be able to bat with
runners on base, because that's what's gonna dent the scoreboard.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
In the playoffs, runs are a little.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Bit more at a premium, and if he's batting with
runners on base, the Dodgers will win the series. But
if the Padres can control it to where he's coming
with the guys at the bottom of the order don't
get on base, and suddenly Otani is batting. Look, he's
leading off the game, up in the third inning, with
nobody off, fourth inning, whatever it is. If they can
keep him batting with nobody on, the Padres will win

(05:53):
the series because he's gonna make that entire thing go
in La And I'm a big believer in the bounce
back for rookie Betty and the bounce back for Freddie Freeman.
The Dodgers say they're hopeful to have him tomorrow for
Game one. Remember coming off the ankle injury near the
end of the regular season. So I fully believe in
the bounce back the rest of the lineup. But Otani's
gonna make everything go. And if he hits with runners

(06:13):
on base, the Dodgers will win because he's gonna put
crooked numbers up on the scoreboard because that's just what
he does.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
It's just how good he is. You're not gonna be
able to stop him.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
But if you can pitch around him, you can be careful,
you can get him to pop up, or you can
walk him. Yes, if he steals a base with one out,
it's okay. You'd rather have him do that than hit
a double or a triple or something. If he steals
a base with one out or two outs, it's fine,
right if he's batting with nobody on in front of him,
and it's not a big uh. There's not a big

(06:42):
situation where you're looking ahead at something and this is
what's going on. If he can bat with nobody on,
if the Padres can hold him to that, the Padres
will win the series.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
And that's what it's gonna come down to for both
of these teams. It's curious, you know, just some of
the comments earlier this week from Mookie Betts talking about,
you know, the process and just getting lost the process
versus worrying about the outcomes and the obvious backlash that
comes with it. Right, learning new positions, the injury, all

(07:12):
of that stuff and trying to go through and for
the Dodgers, battle tested for sure. I mean they still finish,
you know, with the best record in the game despite
what was it, seventeen eighteen starting pitchers over the course
of the year, a long stretch where Betts was out,
Freeman now hurt, the back half of the lineup did

(07:33):
nothing for a long period of time, and we basically
became the Sho Hao Tani Show. Not just im root
to the fifty to fifty, but legitimately that was it.
How do we generate offense? He's going to start stealing
bases every time he gets on just green light, he's
gonna go so yeah with him. Look, the translation thing
is funny. I've always I've always had my eyebrow raised

(07:56):
rock style over the interpretation because remember Sammy Sosa spoke
perfect English for about eight years until it was a
controversy and suddenly he didn't understand the questions that were
being asked of and but with Shohys he was down
in Anaheim for years. I'm not saying he's he's gonna
be fluent, but you pick up some stuff in the clubhouse,

(08:17):
and I'm sure he taught people some Japanese phrases along
the way as well. But for his process, yeah, I
mean he's he's been phenomenal and I'm not worried about him.
The thing I would worry about is pictures just saying
all right, I'm gonna make you swing it something out
of the zone. How patient are you? How much do
you need to press? Cuz Freddie Freeman's gonna give it
the old college drive from what they're saying. Off his injury,

(08:40):
he should be another two weeks away, so how much?
How much has he given you? And how much is
that in his head? Not to mention the recent playoff
history for Mookie Betts, Yeah, the hope is that he
puts twenty three aside, But what if he can't. What
if the ghosts of playoffs passed are problematic for you?
So add that to the pitch issues and how is

(09:02):
the play uh you know, missus Lincoln kind of thing.
So uh yeah, Show is the one guy I have
no concerns. He's just gonna go out and play baseball.
He's excited to actually be in the postseason. Yeah, it's
the feel what October baseball is actually like beyond October
first or second, when the regular season ends. I played
Ober baseball. Thing.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
We played Game one sixty two on October first. A
couple time times. I played October baseball.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
That's why we have to change that phrase, because the
regular season now does bleed oftentimes into the first couple
of days of October. But but for Otani, I mean,
you want to talk about a guy who was able
to put think about the epay thing, how big that was,
and look, baseball and everybody did a good job to compartmentalize,
and that was gone. Right. I've never seen anything in

(09:48):
any sport addressed, adjudicated dealt with that quickly, right, I
mean everything else becomes a five year investigation, yep. I
mean think about the NC douaba. We're gonna find penalties.
I mean, hell, Antonio appears been out of college a
couple of years. What comes down show cause? Right, I
mean all of those I guess they acted on Michigan

(10:09):
pretty fast, so that's kind of an outlier. But everybody else,
let's say, wait, that happened three years ago. That happened
four years ago. Okay, cool. Even the first half of
the Michigan stuff was COVID recruiting stuff that finally comes down,
So it's it's it's never that accelerated. But in all
of it, even with its swirling around, he was able
to just get back to work and go and put

(10:30):
up this monster season. So yeah, he's the guy that
seems to be teflon when it's all said, none, just
get after it and get back to the plate.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
So if that's the case for the Dog, Like, that's
what's gonna be the series right now, the Mets and
the Phillies.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Right, we get Zach Wheeler and.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Code I Sanga tomorrow in Game one. Amazing, Like, here
do two things. One thought about the Mets, one about
the Phillies. And because I'll tell you who's gonna win
this series, and you're gonna know, I'm telling you the truth.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Carlos Mendoz is some kind of manager. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
This is not a really greatly talented team. And outside
of a couple of times during the year, I've not
seen him make a lot of wrong moves.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
You did try to aspire him a week ago though, well,
I did.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I I was really mad about the DZ not in
the eighth inning again, you know the other night against
the against the Bruise, I was really mad about that.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
But like I said, there's only a couple of times,
which is why I.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Have to realize, if Gottlieb gets Wisconsin Green Bay in
the tournament, JJ Reddick gets into the top six, and
WOJ gets Saint Bonaventure into the tournament, I got to
focus on being head coach of the Jets, right that
if people from the media are becoming head coaches of
their teams, well then I got to focus on the Jets,
because that's the better that's the bit be the more
likely opening, because Mendoza is some kind of manager, and

(11:43):
there is nothing that the Mets need more than this
jolt of adrenaline going into this series where your ace
who hasn't pitched all year is going to pitch Game one.
Whatever they get out of code I sang up doesn't
matter right, whether it's an inning, three innings, he said today,
whether I have ten or two hundred pitches them up
for whatever they want for me. So it's likely going
to be Senga into David Peterson who came out had

(12:05):
to close the game the other day, so they want
to limit what they're going to go to him for.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
But this is the jolt of adrenaline they.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Need, because wow, this is a long and emotional week
for the Mets, and it is just, you know, how
do you come off of having them the pressure of
the must win game on Monday and winning in the
ninth inning, and then the pressure of a three game
series and winning in the ninth inning another night, you know, yesterday?
How do you get this going for a monstrous Phillies

(12:31):
team coming up tomorrow. The answer is you find a
way to get that guy in the start. And now
it's a great, great decision. But overall, look, if you
want to play the card of you know what's been
better the Mets playing this week or the Phillies being
off and now you rest is not always great, you know,

(12:51):
but you know, rest is not always great because you
come out maybe you're a little bit rusty, you know,
what happens that way and playing can hey we roll
right in from one series to the other. I just
don't know emotionally what the Mets are going to have
left after this week, And I can see them coming
in Saturday, especially with Zach Wheeler, who wants to beat
the Mets so bad.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
He had a press conference today.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
He talked about all the things he didn't like with
the Mets when it was previous ownership, before Cohen was here.
They made him pay for tickets to see the team
when he was rehabbing. They wouldn't let him be in
the dugout when he was rehabbing from an injury. Like
all these slights that he had with Mets previous ownership.
And let's face it, who doesn't have a slight with
the Willponds before. So he is motivated. He's one of
the top three pitchers in baseball. It's amazing that of

(13:33):
the five guys the Mets had a decade ago there
were going to be the next generation, the one guy
they decided to let go, they kept all four of others.
The one guy they let go is still an absolute
ace right now, one of the top three pitchers in baseball.
That's very Metsish, right. All the other guys, Matt Harvey
out of the game, Steven Matt's barely in the league,
Noah Cindergard trying to hang on right, Jacob de gram

(13:54):
hasn't pitched in two years, finally pitched three games the
end of this year for his team that got eliminated. No,
but Zach, he is still rolling cy Young everything. Oh, Zach, Zach, Zach.
It's gonna be hard for me to see the Mets
to win this series because I can see it being
two zip pretty easily. I can see the Phillies winning
these games rather comfortably and suddenly you're down to Zip

(14:15):
and the pressure to get both of those games back
at City Field is a Mets and bottom line is, Look,
the Phillies are the better team, ken the Mets hang
with them. Yes, we watch them win free. I watched
them win three out of four last weekend, but the
games were clearly more much must win for the Mets
than they were for the Phillies. The Phillies were waiting
to win a game so they could celebrate the NL East, right.
There was much less stakes for them. But now they've

(14:37):
been waiting for this. I know that the playoffs last
year for them. This is the moment they've been waiting for.
I can see them getting out to a two zero
lead pretty easy and the Mets never really getting back
in this series. I'm just being honest with you, Right,
I hope I'm wrong, and I hope I'm wrong, and
I'm gonna be blank blanketing all the way through the
next two days. But it's gonna be really hard for
me to see the Mets beat this Phillies team because

(14:58):
already the playoffs scene long and we're just out of
the first round.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
No, it's it's a hell of a week. I mean,
you want to talk about running on adrenaline and emotion,
et cetera. Now it helps you get a couple of
days off before the series resets, given the amount of
time and opportunities for your bullpen. I mean the last week,
I mean, go, we talked about it, you know, on
Monday night when you've got guys up for the fourth

(15:25):
time in five days, right, and wondering how much they
have left. So now it's you get to the starting pitching.
I mean, this is fascinating, right, what is your starter
in game one going to give you? I mean it's
a bonus to have him there at all, but say
he only can get get to get an inning or
so before you look and say, hey, this doesn't work.

(15:48):
All of a sudden, it just goes sideways, just that
fast against a team that's pretty relentless at the plate,
and as you mentioned, a guy in Wheeler sixteen and
seven two five seven era and a guy who wants
to blank blank the Mets more than anybody. He wants
to do that to the Mets more than Alonso wanted
to go after those guys in the state. Oh yeah,

(16:08):
oh no, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
And look but we just beat Zach Wheeler last week, right,
we beat him up. We beat him lat Sunday night, right,
so it's not like we haven't done it. But yeah,
but now things are different. And again, emotionally, I don't
know what they have.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
It's it's it's got I.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Mean, I don't I don't know how you have anything left.
They didn't even practice, It didn't work out today. It
was just take today off, guys, whatever, Just take today
off tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's all about management, uh, at
this point of emotions. I mean, it's what the Dodgers
are doing right the other side, you know, when you
when you talk about, oh they're coming in and feeling good,
are they? I don't know. I mean all those all
we've talked about in Los Angeles and nationally is all right,
how do they get over this time? Can they get

(16:52):
over this time? With the pitching stuff for the Mets?
You know, you always talk about house money. It's a
phrase that maybe gets used way to liberally in our business.
But given the week you just had, maybe a little
bit of that, maybe a little bit of goodwill U
and one or two bigot bats can be the thing
to spring it and all of a sudden the Phils

(17:14):
feel that heat. On the other side, you gotta be
able to get after Wheeler early though, So that's the key,
Lindor getting it out of the gate, exit out about
a fresca at Swollen Dome.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
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the game of the week in the NFL. Yes, the
two biggest games, the first one and the last one.
We've talked about Vikings Jets. We'll get into Steelers and
Cowboys coming up next, as well as reports of a
mutiny for one seme in the NFL. A mutiny that's

(17:44):
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Speaker 4 (17:48):
Are you not gonna play Cleveland for mutiny? Why they
can't have a mutiny in Cleveland. They're gonna play that tight.

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Speaker 4 (18:04):
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Speaker 4 (18:23):
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Speaker 1 (18:24):
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Speaker 4 (18:34):
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and now I'm the biggest hobo. There is biggest hobos. No,
it's biggest hobo. It's like the big hob is the
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Speaker 1 (18:47):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Now, we'll take.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
A look at the game of the week in the
NFL coming up in a couple of minutes and tell
you who's gonna win. But first we'll talk about mutiny.
We were there is mutiny going on and I love
it in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Let's go. I'll be thrown off deaf Jason.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
You'll remember that today is the day you almost beat
the New England Patriots. Uh. The Patriots, apparently, Heavin, have
a mutiny on their hands. This if you believe Evan Lazar,
who works for Patriots dot Com as a senior reporter,
so you could say he works with the team. He
is the host of the team's Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts,

(19:25):
and he did a podcast in the last twenty four
hours to talk about how there is mutiny on the
team over the decision to play Jacobe we'ssett and not
played Drake May Lazarre and the podcast says, hey, right now,
they're teetering on mutiny in that locker room. Some of
the guys say to themselves, why am I going out
there getting my butt kicked every single Sunday?

Speaker 4 (19:47):
And Drake May can't.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Why am I going out there with a quarterback who
can't get me the football when we have the Ferrari
back in the garage that.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Can get me the football.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
So apparently this all stems from the fact that New
England says, hey, we want to play it safe with
our franchise quarter because the offensive line stinks, and the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Players don't like that.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, sorry, Every year can't be the twenty years you
had from two thousand and one to twenty twenty. Sorry,
you're gonna have the tough times as well. Now this
comes out and Patriot's head coach Gerrod Mayo was asked
about it at his press conference, he kind of blows
it off and says, I don't know, you know, you
have to ask that guy about it. And since that happened,

(20:24):
that comment was scrubbed from the podcast. Just picture somebody
with a bunch of steel woll going let's get this out,
get this out out. Somebody had to have clipped it though.
No oh yeah, yeah, no, it's there and it's out there.
It's just but they took like they like people don't
have it still.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Oh no, no, we're gonna get rid of it. It's wiped
away from the internet. We can do that, right.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I think that that's a way for the people doing
the podcast to tell the Patriots, hey, we're doing you
a solid here. We're doing we didn't know what would
cause this kind of controversy. We're doing you a solid
because we like the access to the team.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
That it was.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Want to get fired, you know, we will to still
work here. I'm sure Evan Lazarre wants to work there.
Everybody else does.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Well. We're getting press releases from all sorts of players
associations about locker room access, and in the NFL, we're
seeing it in the WNBA. A lot of consternation for
people on the beat right now. Now, I will tell
you this first things for as four, I get into
a really good conspiracy theory. Take for you, who do

(21:25):
you think is the happiest person in the world right now?
Happiest thing?

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Now, remember there's probably some disharmony, probably not nearly to
the mutiny aspect of it that we're gett.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
I know, I know, if you know who is the
runner up for the job?

Speaker 1 (21:43):
No, no, no, no, it's not Mike Vrabel. I think
Mike Vrabel is a run up for every job this off.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
One was he okay, is an official runner up, the
official bridesmaid of the coaching carousel. Twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Happiest guy in the world is Bill Belichick, yeacause he's
laughing his ass off right now, going ah, you guys,
miss me.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
You guys have mutiny.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
You thought I was a problem I couldn't win games,
and now you guys have mutiny. Because you're they're mad
at who you got playing quarterback. Oh, I'm just gonna
go hang out with Pat McAfee and laugh and laugh
and laugh, and I'm gonna do interviews and laugh and
look like I'm having the time of my life. Man,
I'm gonna wait for Jerry Jones to call me, or
I'm gonna wait for the Giants to call me at
the end of the season.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
So it's gonna laugh and laugh and let He.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Is having the time of his life right now because
he's seeing the disarray that the Patriots are in. Nobody
is having a bigger laugh about this than belichickis.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Well, I think there's something to it, right. It's the
disastrous and I mean, I don't think we can call
it anything, but I mean, it's just that you left
a cupboard absolutely bare, devoid of big time playmaker, and
the one guy you did believe in most has now
been demoted because of his ball security issues. Fire up

(22:59):
a little bit of Antonio Gibson because Ramandre Stevenson is
no longer your number one back in New England. Uh, well,
they said he said that this week.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
That look, Stevenson's fumbled in the last four games, so
you know, they said they're changing. Can't fumble the when
your quarterback is not even thrown for as many yards
this season as Kirk Cousins did last night. Yeah, you
can't turn the football over. He's fumbled at four games.
He's not gonna start.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
How about that for the you know doing the old Hey,
here's your random stat of the week. Uh, less fewer
yards passing in four games than Captain Kirk had against
what was thought to be at least a serviceable Tampa
Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
D you know what, if Zach Wilson was still playing
for the Jets, he would have done that. I guarantee it.
He would have been the same. He would have been
the same if he was still playing for some reason
this year.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Absolutely that would have happened, no doubt. Now.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
But here's the thing, and here's are get into conspiracy theory. Okay,
look at how bad this team is. If you said
to me, you know what, at some point or at
the point, Bill Belichick realized it was no longer tenable
in New England. They weren't going to win, and they
weren't going to keep him as the head coach, right,
and maybe he realized that the season before his last

(24:11):
one or at some point and you said to me, hey,
Belichick sort of did this to the team on purpose.
He left the cupboard absolutely bare, which he has to
let the next guy come in, girod Mayo or whoever
it was going to be. Yeah, good luck trying to
win because you see some of the moves that the
Patriots have made the last couple of years, and none
of them makes sense.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
He went on the spending spree to bring in a
bunch of guys who aren't even with the team anymore. Right,
and then then going into last year, there was no changes.
He didn't make a change at quarterback. He had the
crazy ass stuff with hiring his former defensive coordinator to
be the offensive coordinator. Like what was Bill Belichick doing?
Like if you said to me he was doing this
on purpose. He was just going to bank as many
wins as possible. But he saw this is not a

(24:53):
playoff caliber championship team. If I can squeak out a
playoff appearance, great, but he saw very early, Hey to
I'm left and won the Super Bowl. I was able
to get into the playoffs one year with Mac Jones,
and now it's not gonna get any better. I couldn't
say you were wrong if you said, hey, Bill Belichick
torpedoed this roster to leave the cupboard bear for whatever
was saying, hey, Blank, you good luck trying to win

(25:14):
without me. I could not say you were wrong because
every move he made the last couple of years, it's like,
what are you doing? Have you lost your fastball? And
I think it turned out to to really backfire on
him because I am sure he thought when I get
when I get let go by the Patriots or I leave,
I'm gonna waltz right into any job I want to
because because teams are just gonna say, hey, look at

(25:34):
what Belichick's accomplished, He's gonna do it for us.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
But instead they rightfully looked.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Back at the last three years and said, yeah, I
think you lost your fastball. Man, Like he could have
walked into Atlanta, he had a two interview lead on
Raheem Morrison couldn't get the job, So I think he
really overestimated what his legacy and resume was gonna bring it. Instead,
teams looked the last three years and said, yeah, I
don't know, man, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know
if you're still NFL caliber. I don't know if you're

(25:58):
still somebody that can win games. I think the nf
I might have passed you by, and so we're not
going to hire you. And now you got to go
hang out with Bat McAfee. So while that could have
been his thing, and like I said, I would not
disagree with you if you said that, in the end,
it would it turned out to screw him as well,
because you see he's not on the sideline, he's on television.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah, I think the biggest thing, right from the roster side,
I see the point, right, I love the conspiracy. The
other side, though, it made him look like he was
a knucklehead in terms of his decision making for the
guys he put in charge of the offense. Hey, here's
mac Jones. You had a really good rookie year. You
know what, blank you. Let's have Matt Patricia run around
with a pencil behind his ear. Let's make these moves

(26:38):
that have no logic and we called them out going. Well,
all right, let's see what kind of weird genius or
insanity this is. And let's face it time and time again,
what was it? Insanity? So like that's the other part
of it is. You torpedoed your reputation to at least

(26:59):
some degree with those coaching moves, right, all the things
that you pushed all the right buttons through the years,
and then roster wise, Okay, you argue bad money spent
or you know, reclamation projects that failed. Okay, I'll go
with that. You can make that argument, But the coaching
hires are the ones that just lead me going, Wow,

(27:21):
how short sighted is it to not see what this
potentially does to you on the back end, especially in
the or was it the If I get this right,
there's no question at all, I'm forever the genius behind
what we did for twenty years. If I can get
if I can go win games with Matt Patricia calling
my offense, then there's no doubt. Whatever Brady does, I'm

(27:45):
the greatest.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Ough Just to just think about that for Belichick, when
you see how bare that card is of what a
mess the Patriots are right now, he gave it to him.
We'll give you our picks for the game of the
week in the NFL coming up in ninety seconds, But first,
such aslivery Steve de Sager has all the big news
from tonight in sports, which is mainly a recap of
Kyle McCord's light and a preview of the Mets of Mithilies.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Nothing else happened in this sports world that nothing else matters.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
It's the summer of George.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
That's college footfall on I'll make it Trades number six
Oregon beat Michigan State thirty one, ten and on FS
one Syracuse now four and one, got an overtime victory
at number twenty five UNLV forty four forty one.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Houston was won and four this season, but gotta win
at TCU thirty to nineteen. Houston Texans running back Joe
Mixon is still out this weekend with his ankle injury.
Colt's running back Jonathan Taylor out with the sprained ankle,
Giants running back Devin Singletary doubtful with a groin injury.
Washington running back Brian Robinson is called a game time
decision with his bad knee. Brown's running back Nick Chubb

(28:52):
is still out after his knee injuries of a year ago.
Bill's wide receiver Khalil Shakir is out with an ankle injury.
Jacksonville tight at evaning grim As a game time decision
trying to return from a hamstring injury. Packers wide receivers
Christian Watson and Romeo Dobbs are each doubtful, and Yes,
Cooper Cup for the Rams is officially out again this weekend.
Raiders wide receiver DeVante Adams out due to a hamstring

(29:15):
injury and a very small trade request. As for the Padres,
pitcher Joe Musgrove, yeah, he's out for the year. He
needs Tommy John surgery, so he could miss all of
next year as well. The Mets will start pitcher Code
I Senga tomorrow at Philadelphia to open their best to
five Division series. Game one is on Fox TV four
pm Eastern Time against Zach Wheeler and the Phills. Tomorrow night,

(29:37):
the Dodgers host Game one against San Diego on FS one.
That'll be Yoshinobu Yamamoto against San Diego's Dylan Cease, and
Dodger first baseman Freddie Freeman says he'll give it a
go despite the bad ankle he did practice today. The
two American League Division series each start tomorrow, also Detroit
at Cleveland and Kansas City at the New York Yankees.

(29:58):
Yanks first baseman Anthony Rizzo out due to two fractured fingers.
The Reds officially hired Terry Francona as manager. The Celtics
won their exhibition opener against Denver in Abu dhab one
O seven to one oh three. Tonight in Southern California,
Minnesota beat the Lakers one twenty four one oh seven.
Lebron James and Anthony Davis did not play. Rookie Brownie

(30:18):
James one of six shooting from the floor, did have
three blocks. The New Jersey Devils won the NHL season
opener in Prague for to one over Buffalo. They'll play
each other again on Saturday. The NHL regular season opens
for most teams on Tuesday or Wednesday. Three games on Tuesday,
and in the WNBA playoffs best of five semifinals continuing,
Minnesota leads two games to one after winning at Connecticut

(30:41):
ninety to eighty one. Vegas wanted home to stay alive,
beating New York ninety five eighty one. New York's lead
two games to one. Asia Wilson nineteen points fourteen rebounds
by the way for the WNBA Semifinals this week, the
games were each under one million viewers. Meanwhile, the Mets
got four million viewers for their thriller to finish the

(31:01):
Wildcard series at Milwaukee last night. The wild Card round
in general this week averaged two point eight million viewers.
But in this wild Card series that we've had now
in recent years, the Mets have played in the top
five most watched games of the first round.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Of course you have. We're the Caitlin Clark of Major League.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
Baseball to two of the games against Milwaukee this year
and all three when they lost against the Padres a
couple of years.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Back back to you.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Thank you, Steve, the Jason Smithzer with Mike Carmon. In
a few minutes, we'll give you our upset special picks
of the week. And because it is a big college
football Friday night, we have a very important grade that
was given out tonight.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
We have to get to.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
But grade, yeah, we have a grade. We have a
very shocking grade that was given out tonight that we're
going to talk about. But look, Steelers Cowboys Sunday Night
is the game of the week, right, no matter what
it is. You think Steelers Cowboys, and you think about
the helmets and going back to the seventies and the
super and the rivalry, and it's Brad Shawn stawback and

(32:03):
there's just something special when they play. And obviously with
the Cowboys being still America's team and the Steelers, hey,
they're playing pretty well.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Justin Fields a quarterback courts is gonna always be a
big game.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
But I will say this, looking at this game, this
is gonna be the games when things happen on national
TV that has a much bigger impact than it does
when you don't play. This will be the game where
after this there's no more controversy. Justin Fields is the
starting quarter for the Steelers for the rest of the season.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Look he showed last week.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yes, he made a couple of bad plays last week
in the lost to Indianapolis, made a bad play, losing
a bunch of yards and fumbling, but he also brought
them back. He brought them back by himself. Russell Wilson
can't do that right. Justin Fields is dynamic.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
I know the.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Steelers want to win every game sixteen to ten, and
I know Mike Tomlin fought with Russell Wilson. We can
win every game sixteen ten. That's not feasible, it's not realistic.
You're gonna need to be able to score thirty points.
Justin Fields can do that. But he showed you last week,
showed you he needs to be the quarterback. That's why
you didn't see a lot of talk this week about
Wilson when he's healthy, when he's not, because Fields has
seized the job. But Sunday Night, he's gonna give the

(33:10):
Cowboys all sorts of problems. They have nobody that can
chase after him. He's gonna throw the football well enough,
he's gonna run the football well enough. The Steelers are
gonna win. They're gonna win handily, and Mike Tomlin's gonna
have to annoint him as the starter because when it
happens on Sunday Night football, you can't just say, oh,
we're still kind of waiting later on this week. You
will see Sunday Night, Justin Fields wins the job. He
wins the game for the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Look at you. I'm predicted a big, big win for
them here. Defensively, no Lawrence, no Parsons, can't run the football.
We joked about it a little bit earlier in the show.
Podcast will be up in a few minutes for you
to catch the full recap. But for Fields, they're gonna
need him as well. They've got problems in the running
back room, number of injuries there, so they're gonna need
him to make plays with his legs. And you've seen

(33:53):
the offense with Arthur Smith starting to take things to
a next level. Yeah, here's an opportunity in a huge,
huge spot. And tell me Justin Fields would love to
be smiling there and waking at you after vanquishing Jerry
Squad on a big Sunday night spot. Yeah, huge spot
for the Steelers. So there it is, Steelers.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
We both like the Steelers big over the Cowboys on Sunday,
which means we're talking about the Cowboys on Monday.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Probably Boys, one way or the other.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, I'll tell you that frank O Harris is pretty
good against us. Stalworth caught a couple of passes. I
was kind of tough. Couldn't block Ham, couldn't block Lambert,
anybody named Jack couldn't block.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
This is a very very tough game for us.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
But coming up next, we'll give your upset special Pick
of the weekend, that very important grade that was given
out tonight.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
And you gotta hear that's next. Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
Live from the tirerac dot Com studios. We'll give you
our upset special picks of the week coming up in
a couple minutes.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
But it is a big college football Friday.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
We saw Oregon dominate Syracuse win a thriller over UNLV.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Kyle McCord's going to the NFL.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
So since it is a big guy, a big college
football weegun at big games tomorrow. We kind of have
the old Big ten Pac twelve challenge going because all
the new Pac twelve schools are playing all the Big
ten schools.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
So with that in mind, we have to talk about
a grade.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
There was a very low grade given out tonight that
absolutely absolutely surprises me.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
You mean Joker Part two.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Cinema Score, which is one of the big since nineteen
seventy nine, has been one of the big movie reviewers,
you know, across across the planet. Cinema Score has given
Joker Part two a d oh a d sEH. I
thought you were grading. You know, somebody else's performance in
college football. I didn't think you're making jumps, so I

(35:59):
made the Joker joking. Uh, well, there we go, Joker. Huh.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Joker gets a D.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
And I'm reading some of the reviews and it's wow, okay,
then well, I mean, how bad does a movie have
to be to get a D on cinema score?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Like, really, I'd like a D. How do you get
a D? That's insane? A D? It's that look.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
I told you from the beginning, I had zero desire
to see this movie. I didn't like the first one.
I thought it was depressing. Was it an origin story
for Joker?

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Great?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yes, but there was there was no fun in that movie.
It was just depressing from the beginning to the end.
And now this looked even more depressing. And it looked
like we're gonna spotlight a really bad guy doing really
bad things to a city and killing people.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Oh great, let's like, yeah, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I didn't have any desire to see it, but now, wow,
I mean a D from cinema score.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Oh my goodness, I mean I can't. I part of
me not wants to see it to see why it's
getting such a low No, but that's it. Like, I
actually talked to the girls and and I think we
may actually see it on Sunday. I may actually be
able to grade it myself afterwards. I've seen some reports
and people saying, you know what I left, I got done.
As soon as it broke into song again, I was out.

(37:13):
So yeah, just curiosity. But the reviews, I think it's
like thirty nine percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, which, let's
face it, though, I mean, anything coming out of the
DC universe has expanded as whatever layer they're in, it's
never really done very well. Yeah, right, between Black Adam
and Justice League and all of those things, the Suicide Squad,

(37:35):
like all of the Batman versus Superman, none of those
have really scored with everybody. I mean, I think they're
all sub fifty percent.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
So now, the one thing I will say is that
it's not officially on Cinema Scores Twitter page, yet there's
a lot of Hollywood sources across the board, you know,
all check marks that are citing it scored d Cinema
Score and it has everything up there.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
So uh, it really is amazing. I mean I'm stunned.
I mean I'm stunned. Yeah, I mean one of the
things that was curious and I didn't know this, you know,
you know everything gets a nine minute standing ovation at
the con Film Festival and all that, and the.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Most irrelevant thing, Oh, we had a five minute standing ovation.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Oh I gotta go see that? What?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
What?

Speaker 4 (38:20):
What? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:21):
I got into see a movie for free and the
stars are there and they stand up at the end
and wave.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
I gotta stand up and stand up in flat damn
right I do. But the biggest thing was I saw
a note saying that they they didn't screen it before
it was released, like in full to test audiences like
it never it never saw that part of the process.
So you know, if you that means you don't trust

(38:48):
the process that people are gonna like your movie.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Wow, I mean this is out there, something like discussing
film has in a couple of Hollywood places.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
I need to Wow, that's amazing. You want to go
and I'll slip in some booze.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Well, listen, dude, I got I got two Mets games
in a Jets game this weekend.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Man, I'm booked. I am booked. Come on, dude, I
got a busy week getting booked and cooked. Because you
ain't gonna have nothing left emotionally, You'll be spent. What
you mean, you probably can't hate watch. You wouldn't be
able to give it a full evaluation. I feel like
you went with it a showing with requirers, you'd fall asleep.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
I feel like if I went one for three this week,
and I gotta accept that, Like between the two Mets
games and the one Jets game, if I went one
for three, I gotta accept that. Yeah, I know that's true. No,
that's good, hey man, meaningful games, it's a beautiful thing.
Time now for Upset Special picks of the week. I'm nervous.
I'm feeling the pressure putting my thirteen and two records

(39:43):
so far this year against the spread up again to
I got four NFL players?

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Are youming me? Who do you like in these games?

Speaker 1 (39:50):
My upset special pick this week give me the Bengals
getting three over the Ravens. This game is usually a
rock fight. Cincinnati is desperate, Baltimore is feeling good. Joe
Burrow everything I've seen from this week, he understands how
big it is. He understands the desperation for Cincinnati. And again,
these games are always a rock fighting close. This is
gonna be Chase Brown, though, who is the difference? He

(40:13):
is gonna burst onto the scene this week, take over
that running back job and suddenly Chase Brown. Hey, this
is why they were okay letting Joe Mixon go. Give
me the Bengals twenty seven to twenty four.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Oh, look at you, and maybe a couple of games
on the board. You know, I know your aversion to
the Rams because they are your two losses top thirteen
to Oh. If I don't take the ram, I know
it's amazing. Yeah, I do a pick picks for giggles
on a Yahoo sit up, and I'm twenty games above
five hundred against the spread, which look at you the
hell really fast, and it's gonna start here with the

(40:45):
Jets getting too a half in London in the rain,
forty points. Just I'm looking for one more play. I'm
not looking for anything special. I'm not looking for a big,
sexy outing from the offense. Just enough of the defense
to shut down and bring Sam Darnold back to earth
a bit, giving Aaron Rodgers the opportunity to go steal

(41:05):
on Greg the leg. The difference in front of the
soccer loving, kicker loving crowd. Well, I hope you're right, buddy.
I hope you are right. I really do. Well, you
do accept if if you're by your theory, that means
the Mets lost the other game. So we don't want that.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
But I hope you're right, and I and you understand
why it's not gonna be ugly. There's a reason why
the over unders at forty and a half. No, it
is okay, it's not good.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
At least it's not Vegas Denver. That's thirty five and
a half from Mike. I'm Jason Birdie. Bertie Frattle's coming
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