December 9, 2025 • 40 mins
Jason and Mike explain how Notre Dame went from everyone’s darling to the public enemy number 1 in just 24 hours. Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert deliver some postgame gems. Plus, a wild story from former Chargers Safety Quentin Jammer and much more!
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight the Jason Smith Show
with my bes friend Mike Harmon, and oh boy, do
we have a Justin Herbert interview you have to hear
coming up in about twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Charnie's get the big win tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We talked about how tough he was sometimes quarterbacks you
gut it out like he did.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Incredible night for him, big hero he was.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You gotta hear his postgame interview coming up in twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Pretty good, deep, prediculous.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
It is awesome. But it's very rare that the NFL
has to share headlines with college football. Right once in
a while, when you get to the semi finals of
the playoff. Okay, yeah, but today, in the last twenty
four hours, is one of those days because of the
hecknicness and the craziness of what we saw with the
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final college football playoff poll that came out, leaving Notre
Dame out Miami and Notre Dame flip flopping when neither
team played. James Madison is in, Tulane is in. Duke
does not get in even though they won, they have
five losses. Alabama somehow finds a way to get in.
They get blown out in the conference championship game, doesn't matter.
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It has been all sorts of epic fails for college
football in the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Right, But the one.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Sympathetic subject, at least up until today was no Tre Dame. Right, you,
Notre Dame incredibly sympathetic. Right, Everybody felt bad they got
left out because clearly, look, in no world does anybody
think James Madison should be in the playoff over Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
No.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I mean, look, they were I think either the fourth
or fifth favorite in terms of betting odds as of
last week. In terms of just what the team is
and how they're constructed. They've got a Heisman finalist in Love, Right,
all of those things coming to this in terms of
sympathetic figures, what you said with.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Notre Dame being a team that the two losses and
look your two laws. You lost to Miami. I get
the Miami had to get in over them Alabama getting in,
that's a thing. But you want the best twelve teams.
Best twelve teams didn't get in, no matter how you
want to cut it into. Best twelve teams did not
get in. Because you decided we're gonna do this, then
we're gonna take the top five the conference winners. Okay,
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Tulane and James Madison. It's really difficult. But Notre Dame
had all the sympathy, right, Notre Dame had all the
sympathy after it came out. How does Notre Dame not
get in? I don't understand. As I said, it would
have been a great TV show to have like presidential
debate style Freeman and Krystal ball and debor all debating
with a moderator town hall who should get in and
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who shouldn't get in? The play right, That would have
been a great show.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Remember all those weeks ago we were talking about whether
Calin de Bor was gonna get himself fired.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But after today, Notre Dame and not only has gone
full heel. It's been the biggest turn probably since Anakin Skywalker,
and at least it took Anakin a little bit to
go from Hey, I'm the hero, I'm gonna save the
I'm gonna save the Force to Wow, dude, this guy's
Darth Vader Man.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Sorry spoiler, we got to get rid of this guy like.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
This is an incredible heel turn by Notre Dame in
a very short amount of time.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
It's like Grandpa and Willie Wonka. Oh, you like him
until you don't. Ah, he realized he's evil. So everybody
feels bad for Notre Dame. Right, feels bad for Notre Dame.
Then what happens, Well, last night, Notre Dame says, no,
we're not going to a game. Not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
They want to sit here. Insite players would opt out,
it wouldn't be the same. Yeah, forget about the seniors
who play their whole career. Yeah, you don't want to
go to a bowl game for them. No, I'm holding
my breath because I'm upset. Okay, fine, you should probably
go to a bowl game. It's a lot of these
guys last chance to play football. But no, you want
to play politics.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I get it. I get it. You're mad at.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
ESPN because ESPN did nothing but hate on Notre Dame
and all the things that have gone on, and you
don't want them in and you're replaying games where they lost.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
All the last time. All right, all right?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Then today you get ad Pete Bavaqua on The Dan
Patrick Show and the two things that he let go.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You're like, are you kidding me? Bavaqua says that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
The decision for next year has kind of already been
made in that they've received assurances that if they're a
top twelve team next year, they're in the playoff no
matter what.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Oh wait, oh really, all that must be notic Is
this a handshake deal is?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Or is this you just putting it into the atmosphere
to see what no committee member wants to try to
refute it.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
We're elitist, we're no Tre Dame. We're better than you
and we know it. They're the Globo Jim of college football.
We're better than you and we know it. Why Why
wouldn't Ohio State get that? Why doesn't Michigan get that?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I think that's part of the reason that some of
the sympathy might have been tempered.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
We want. We don't want to join a conference.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We don't want to play a conference championship game, but
we want to get We want to be judged differently
than every other school.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Right, We're not to Dame. We're elitist and we know it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Right, So that's enough to make you go wow, man,
come on, dude, you live in reality.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You know we don't want to play another game.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
We still want to be a be independent. And then
Bavaqua just does a one eighty on it when he
tells Dan Patrick how upset he was that the ACC
who was there conference partner in a.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Lot of sports.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But wait, I thought, you want to be judged by
yourself without joining a conference and get an assurance to
get in. No, no, no, now they want to be part
of the ACC, because now Bavaqua is very upset at
how the ACC pushed other schools over Notre Dame when
it came to the arguing that was done in the
last week.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I have tremendous respect for Miami, you know, great team,
great school, but we were mystified by the actions of
the conference to attack you know, their biggest really business
partner in football and a member of their conference. In
twenty four of our other sports. I wouldn't be honest
with you if I didn't say that they have certainly
done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference in
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Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay, so Notre Dame is upset that the ACC pushed
their own schools ahead of Notre Dame and who should
be included in the playoff? Just understand, Oh, we're pushing
Miami or are other schools over you?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
You're upset about that.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You're upset that you put out Did ACC put out
a tweet that of course they're going to back their school, right?
I didn't understand like mystified, an attacked or whatever else,
you know, talking about the replay of the game.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It's your network. It's the big moment for your network. Now.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Do we can argue about how they handled the tiebreaker
and all this stuff that could have solved all of
these mysteries, But that's not for twenty twenty five. In
this case, you have a full partner. You have a
member school of your conference in all sports, you know,
and including the important one of what's that one football
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to where everybody gets a piece of a really sweet, juicy,
glorious oversized pie.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Whereas if you get in.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Oversized pie okay. Whereas if you get in I get nothing.
I get to say, hey, they're part of the track
and field championships for the conference. Later on fotball, I
get nothing. Ye I get the well then on again,
off again relationship they have in those other twenty four sports,
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not including football. So yeah, the idea that I'm propping
up a resume that includes what's that, Oh yeah, beating
you get you mad, get over yourselves.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
When I saw this, this is where I said, you
know what, now, I want Notre Dame to get left
out of everything.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I heard it live and just want to started laughing.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I want them to get left out of that. I
want them to get left out of field hockey. I
want to get left out of soccer. I want them
to get left out of pickleball. I get left out
of everything. They partner with the ACC and right because clearly,
you know what they want to give you something a
little bit different. They want out of this agreement with
the ACC.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
They want out of this because they want to be
able to partner with a conference that has a future,
and the ACC but they have a future. Who I
don't know, man, they need to be a little bit more,
a little bit more selfish, a little bit more SEC
and big ten. Likely you may be upset with the
big ten in the SEC and how much they talk
about how important they are and everybody else can go
kick rocks, but the ACC needs a little bit of that.
(09:05):
They need to Hey, we got some big teams, man,
We got Miami in Florida State and Clemson. We're big
boys too, man. They need a little bit of that,
right And.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I also don't have. Some of it goes back to
the tie breaking whatever else is knowing that the landscape
is dominated from immediate perspective, coverage, powerhouse teams, all that
by the big ten at SEC. You need to do
everything you can in your power to protect your little
fief down right, and make sure you're fortified that when
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you're being compared, contrasted, included or not, you put yourself
in the best position. And that's where they have failed
with the look ahead and foresight in the conference.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
They I don't know what kind of future the ACC has,
and no tre Dame doesn't. So this is also a
shoehorn into Hey, we want to get out of this
agreement now for whatever reason, we want to get out.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
We want to get out of this.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
But mainly it's it's just I saw this, I said,
this is such. This is Notre Dame on brand to
a t, where it's we are better than all of
you and we don't care. We are elitist, we are
above the fray, and we want it how we want it.
We don't want to play nice with anybody. We don't
want to say, hey, we can all get rich here. No, no, no, no,
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we want everything. And really they want to be part
of a conference, but now they don't want to be
part of it. We want to be part of a conference.
We want to be part here and get all this,
but now we're mad at you. But when it comes
to being part of a conference, no, no, we don't
want to actually join a conference to play a conference
championship game. We want to be able to just be
judged and get a berth in the playoffs without having
to worry about that like they want. This is so
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incredibly outlandish behavior that I don't know that they live
in reality, right, Like Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, Notre Dame is awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
If Notre Dame was really that big of a draw,
If Notre Dame was that great. They would have found
a way in. They would have found a way in
over a couple.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Of those teams.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Right, So I think Notre Dame is looking at their
at Lansco or we really as popular? We really that team?
Are we really that guy? But they think are and
they want to act that way. And I'm sorry, but
I'm done with that. I'm done with Notre Dame. We
want to be independent all but oh we kind of
want to join, but only when it benefits us. They
are in it for nobody but themselves, and they're over
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the top with it.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
All of the schools are like Michigan's in it for themselves,
Buyer State, it is, Alabama is. But when they're so
over the top and in your face about it, yeah,
it rubs me the wrong way. So yeah, I want
to see them get left out of everything. Now, left
out of everything. We're above everything else in college football?
Why not just say, hey, next year, if we're in
the top twelve, give us a national championship.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Why should we even have to play those games?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Why we should have to play Ohio State or Texas
in some kind we no, no, no, not we We
had a tough enough sky.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
We played Navy.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay, I mean, come on, we played Syracuse, We played
some of these tough teams. Just make us a national
If we finish in the top twelve, we're the national champions.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Just what, just say, why don't you want that? It's
just laughable.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You want to be independent, and with that comes is
fraught with some issues. Now you look at the composition
of these committees that are making these decision. You got
a couple of people that are football people and the
rest are lobbyists for lack of a better term. Right,
they're trying to figure out how things work best for
the conference with which they're affiliated, which means you need
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to see it at that table, and you do because well,
Marcus Freeman was on the Today Show the other day
doing his stump speech, but VAK was on with Dan
Patrick in the morning giving his you know, crime a river.
You might as well have had a guy with a
violin behind him as he did it and started talking
tough about the conference and everything else.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It's like you're not in it.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
So their job is to stand for their conferences as
everybody was in that building, which is why you're always
going to have all these issues. And it's going to
be fraught with controversy. He's definite a perfect system. You
had it in terms of the numbers, but you couldn't argue.
You then wanted to argue about coefficients and how that
worked out. Right, There's no perfect solution. There's always going
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to be problem unless you go undefeated. Just don't get
to that point. Don't let it go to the because
as soon as you do, it's done. And in this case,
when it got muddy, you know, you got you had
the opportunity to go to the trump card, which was
always Now we compare them side to side, head to head,
and you get left out and that's the end of it.
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But all of it brought on by the fact that
the independence and the schedule, and we can do all
of that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You lost the two.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Games off the front and by a total of four points,
and I would argue, yeah, you're one of the top
teams in the country.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Unfortunately, this is the way.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
It's fuzzy math, as we love to say on the show.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
To where you lose.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Now, I will say this positive for Notre Dame because
this is a positive for the rest of college football.
As I always say when something big, controversial, happens to
one of the big movers and shakers in a game,
a popular team. That's when we get changed is effected.
Right when we got instant replaying Major League Baseball, when
the Yankees were involved in a game where a home
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run went off the foul pole and it was we
could go back and look at it again. Hey, and
if all the Yankees we got changed, right, no tre
Dame getting left out of the playoff. We are one
hundred percent going to a sixteen team playoff next year.
All the difficulties that college football had this year, all
the different conference commissioners. For some reason, I don't know
how people can't get on board with the fact that
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way we can all make more money with more games
and more teams in the playoff. I don't know how,
but anyway, that's reality. No tre Dame getting left out.
They will magically, they will wave a magic wand and
they will magically find a way to settle all their
grievances and say, hey, guess what, sixteen teams in the
playoff next year, So this doesn't happen again.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Well, to be fair, they've already evidently been guaranteed in
play exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
But so this doesn't happen, and what if Notre Dame
is fourteen next year? Right, But just because like when
it happens to the big teams, you get changed. If
this happened to Texas Tech, if this happened to Wisconsin,
and this happened to even a team like Auburn or no,
it's not happening, but it happens in Nore Dame and
it's so front and center, and they've they've sucked all
the oxygen out of the story because it's Notre Dame.
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We will get changed. That will happen next year. It
will be an easy decision. It's not gonna be well,
we're gonna look at sixteen. We're gonna see if it
works for us. It's gonna be one day you're gonna
wake up sources NCAA to go to sixteen teams. It's
gonna be formalizing a vote on Friday, and then Friday
we've got a sixteen team playoff. Because it's Notre Dame,
it will happen.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, and Sin it's a lot of the big talent
that we're part of the reveal and debate shows about this,
and we're very vocal saying we should just abolish the rankings.
A lot of resumes are flying into networks right now
because with an expanded playoff field means there's a lot
more teams that are gonna be fighting for the back
end of it at two loss and three loss teams.
So you know you have more debate and more attention
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on those shows than ever. So yeah, get those resumes
boned up. If you're a former college or pro athlete,
you want.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Back in and maybe TJ, you want to contact the
Notre Dame Athletic director. Because we heard from a very
Kurt Bovaqua on The Dan Patrick Show earlier today.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
DJ. Yeah, he was blowing bubbles as soon as his
story broke up, like I can't.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Wait to know my Boerman Kurtbavaqua, I gotta do it,
like all day.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
It's like it's building up in me, like I gotta
do it. It's one of the greatest.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Baseball cards of all time, his seventy six tops. Yeah,
Bubble Gum Championship, Kurt Bavaqua Legend.
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you will hear from Justin Herbert a postgame interview. You're
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Speaker 7 (18:20):
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Speaker 3 (18:26):
Let it go.
Speaker 10 (18:33):
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Speaker 3 (18:50):
I like how they went away from the Rudolph version.
We're gonna go back into our song. Yeah, okay, you
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Speaker 1 (18:57):
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Like if they're doing a holiday concert somewhe where, it's
one of those hey, you know, forgotten bands of the
aughts that you embarrass you bought tickets to see, Like
if they're doing this, hey, you know, the singer comes
Scot Staff comes out and he puts on a hat
like they were gonna do this, and we do it
like this, and then you go into the song.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
As it's Jason, you should reach out and tell him
to do it? Yeah, what about you do that? Which
you do this version?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
But then the thing is people want to hear higher
the regular version as well. So maybe I don't know,
maybe maybe you close with this like that's one. Oh yeah,
that's what you do. You come out for your encore
and you close with that and everybody says good night.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
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I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I can't believe they would say no to were touring
and making money. I mean, I just as we've.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Got a lot of bands that don't have don't think
he's is he? I don't think he fought. I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
At some point, every every band fights with their I mean,
tell me been where they haven't loved, Whether they always
love their lead singer.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
It's fair.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I guess Rolling Stones, I guess okay, that's it. Yeah, okay,
led Zeppelin, Mack and Keef, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I mean Zeppelin they love each other because they don't.
They haven't had to deal with each other for many
many years.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I always felt like the who everybody hated each other.
I always felt like that.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Well, I mean, there were always those reports that they
were bailing out and whistle okay, okay, and then they
just kind of ran out the string here and down
the stretch, firing and hiring Zach Starkey a couple of
times to drum for him, and and they just ran out.
I think they finally played their final show.
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Speaker 1 (20:45):
So we have two postgame soundbites you have to hear
from Monday Night Football. The first is Justin Herbert, charges quarterback,
who had a really I tell you he had a
heroic game. Umber of times he got hit and he
got sacked forty six times tonight.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Seem like, yeah, he was hit on every play.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
This is just Justin Herbert's life this season because of
the offensive line injuries. Really, Joe Walt might be the
MVP of the NFL.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
You have been standing for that going on about six
or seven weeks at this point.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
So not a great night statistically for him, But every
time they needed to get down and get a score,
they got a score. Now number one in your heart,
Herbert was awesome. But after the game, when Laura Rutlis
was looking to interview him, Justin Herbert had no desire
to talk to anybody following their victory.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I'd like to watch.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
The interception there that's steal this game for you guys
to get this win.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah, the defense fight is incredible.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
A second in the first thing she goes, she goes
up to him and she says, hey, Justin, can we
talk to you? He says, I just want to go
celebrate my teammates. Yeah, I know, I know, but but
but let's try. Let's go back and we're back in
a bit. All right, lot's good, I.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Know, talk like, what was it like to watch the
interception there that steal this game for you guys to
get this win.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
Yeah, the defense played incredible. You know, they came up
with so many big stops. Say so so proud to
be able to play for those guys, and the way
they compete it down and out is really.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Fun to watch. Pause right there, How fast is he talking?
He wants to be done right in the entire time.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
His eyes are direty around because he wants to He's
trying to clock where his teammates are to go give
them hugs.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I just want to throw up some love. Yeah, but
can we get you for a second. Now, I understand this.
I understand this. I understand Justin Herbert, but he also
got to get dude, you the quarterback of the team
on Monday night football. They're going to talk to you
after the game. Okay, you gotta understand this is part
of the deal.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, but yeah, but either smart thing I do appreciate
about Justin Herbert. I was actually just talking to my
to my daughter and she was asking how the game finished,
talking about the college soccer game, whatever.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
But the the.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Fact that Justin Herbert's in a bunch of commercials where
he doesn't speak like he wants to know part of it.
It's like he's like practicing, like he's throwing the ball
and it's like for bank and whatever else. Like he
is the most I have any lines, unwilling I'm in unwilling,
super stunning quarterback there is. And I love that about
I was like, I want nothing to do with that.
I just want I just want to play ball. I
just slash you want to play ball?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Jerry Dad, another one of the agents on the phone.
All right, let's hear the rest of the interview ahead.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
We know you were dealing with the broken hand tonight
you gutted it out, you were hit multiple times.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
How are you feeling right now?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Do pretty good?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
And then what can you say about the way that
this team was able to pull this off in overtime?
You guys know how important this game was and how
bid the opponent was on the other side.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
Yeah, not the way we drew it up. But uh,
we'll watch a film and have to get better at it.
A menu, you too, So I have to get better
at it and keep moving forward. All right, thank you?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Does you jah? All right? Now you can go all right?
You get three questions? Make him count?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I really think Laura Rutledge spoke more than Justin Herbert
in that interview she did.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
She told the interview was about.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Fifty seconds long, and I think she spoke for about
thirty eight seconds of it. Yeah, yeah, that's nice. Count
one two.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Okay, from the beginning with when she asked him the question,
and then we'll go all the way to there.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I'll count Justin Herbert, harmon, you count Laura Rutledge?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Okay, okay, god, I know to be just talking really beast.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
What would like to watch the interception there? That's steal
this game for you guys to get this win.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, the defense played incredible.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
You know, they came up with so many big stops todays,
so the way they can pete it down and down
out is really fun to watch.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
We know you were dealing with the broken hand tonight.
You gotted it out. You were hit multiple times.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
How are you feeling right now? Pretty good?
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
And then what can you say about the way that
this team was able to pull this off in overtime?
You guys know how important this game was and how
bad the opponent was on the other side.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Yeah, not the way we drew it up. But we'll
watch the film and have to get better at it.
N you too, well, we have to get better at
it and keep moving forward. All right, Thank you, Thank you,
Jo good.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
All right, now we can go celebrate with his teammates.
Thank you, Lauren, great job. All right, all right?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I got how many seconds were like twenty three, twenty four,
sixteen seconds for Justin Hurbert.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Because you have that like three or four seconds where
he pauses to say, hey, thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, good game, you two. I really don't want to
talk here, I really you take me with you. Yeah,
you're just swimming by. Just grab my arm and take
me with his pretty good. Thank you, Yeah, thank you,
thank you. That's got it. We're gonna keep that one around.
Not pretty good.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Not talking about this, We're not talking now about that.
I feel pretty good, thanks man. I mean, that's like
asking Bill Belichick about Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, pretty good, thank you. Yeah, I'm on the next season.
We're on the next season.
Speaker 11 (25:32):
Uh so your selfish baskets.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
What happens when interviews go wrong?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Uh, now, we gotta bring you what Jim Harbaugh said,
Chargers head coach following this game time, very emotional game.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah right, very big win.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And you know, yeah, Jim Harbor, when when his team
wins a big game, he doesn't shy away from how
good of a win is it is, But just how
good of a win was this for the Chargers over
the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Good?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Pretty good, thank you.
Speaker 12 (26:08):
This is definitely, I don't maybe the best best feeling,
you know, just a wonderful, wonderful feeling of winning and
thrill of victory. It's certainly in the discussion I put
in the discussion the birth of my seven children, my marriage, uh,
you know, in the conversation in the conversation, just joyful.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
In the conversation, marriage, kids, and this game, not the
national championship, not beating Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Now you can't open that door game. And then this game, yeah,
you opened the door of the championship. People start asking
for Well, it doesn't matter. Still a great day. We
still won without getting anything from Connor Stallions. We won
those games.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
We had a great day. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
My kids, all seven of my I like you said,
all the kids, getting all the kids in, and my
marriage and then this game.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Good, pretty good, thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
And it's like Steve Martin and his Christmas wish thing
Saturday that live he's called the Children of the World.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
He's coaching the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
No no against his brother No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
This one, this one bigger this, this one's a bigger win.
I did that.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I mean, the sarcasm bucket is obviously filled underneath him
with this. But the fact that he went and decided
that was the tact he was going to play.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, kind of like the cut of his chid. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Because I wonder if you Because Harpo was one of
those guys that have bet came off the day after
the interview and said m Now this might be up there.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Okay, so seven kids, marriage, Okay, that's the top eight. Uh,
you know, maybe the national title, super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Ah, but maybe you don't like some of your kids.
Maybe maybe like three or four of them and the
other three or four you don't like, and maybe this
jumps up a bit in the top ten.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
How about that? Maybe it's kind of like that should
have been the follow up. How do you rank your kids?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Maybe it's kind of like college football play if you
have your top twelve, but you have to rank a
couple of games in the top You can't just rank kids.
You have to rank just like you know, you have
to rank James Madison in Tulane, So you gotta put
these games up ahead of a couple of your kids.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Hey, Jim, when you rank your seven kids, which one's
the Tulane and which one's the James Madison?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You know the ones haven't done anything yet because they're
too young, right, the ones you can't really judge yet, Right,
I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Are they trending towards a top five finish?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Are we looking at barely hanging on?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Which one of your kids would be in the hypothetical
six to eleven battle against this game, like which which
kid would you have?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Which one's getting a bye?
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Four?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Which four things get a bye? Because if your marriage
doesn't get a bye, whoa are you? I think your
marriage has to get a by at least two of
your kids have to get a bye. Maybe you put
one game in. They put the national chance national title
gets in there. Yeah, but I know this is the
type of game though, that I know he loves, right,
He loves the toughness of his quarterback. Because find someone
in your life and for those that haven't heard of go,
(28:52):
go and just YouTube it. Just just search.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Jim Harbaugh talks about Justin Herbert. I don't know that
you've ever had a coach gush over a player like this.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Right, it's the antithesis of the Bill Belichick Tom Brady relationship.
But so I think Justin Herbert might trump some of
his kids. So to see him play with this level
of toughness after a surgery and then Cameron Dicker finished
drives with big field goals and your defense plays tough,
I could believe him that this win actually ranks highly
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for him because of those factors.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
His guy, Justin Herbert Exit about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
We have more coming up in.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Ninety seconds, but first, Chris Burphett has what's trending in
the wide world of sports tonight see Pete.
Speaker 13 (29:39):
The Colts are trying out Philip Rivers. Yes, that Philip Rivers,
forty four years old, hasn't played in five years, and
it looks like they will give him a chance on
Tuesday to show if he can be part of a
quarterback room whose only healthy inhabitant is Brett Rippion, formerly
of Boise State and on the practice squad. Interesting times
(30:01):
in Indianapolis as everything comes apart from them. After a
Sunday where Daniel Jones suffered in season ending achilles tear
and Riley Leonard is now week to week Monday Night
Football Chargers took down the Eagles twenty two to nineteen
in overtime. Four interceptions by Jalen Hurtz and a play
where he had multiple turnovers on the same play, but
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in overtime, the final pick coming to Tony Jefferson, sealing
that game. Cameron Dicker with a fifty four yard field goal.
Heisman Trophy finalists were announced on Monday, Notre Dame running
back Jeremiah Love, Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza, Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia,
and Ohio State's Julian Sayin NBA action on Monday, Pacers
(30:43):
defeat the Kings one sixteen one oh five. Spurs power
pass the Pelicans one thirty five one thirty two. Pelican
rookie Pelicans rookie Derreck Queen posted a triple double with
thirty three points, ten rebounds, and ten assists in a
losing effort. Suns take down the Timberwell one o eight
one oh five. On Monday, Terry Rozier pled not guilty
(31:04):
to federal charges of wirefraud and money laundering, stimming from
his alleged role and helping friends cooking bets on his
performance in NBA games and the Orlando Magics. Desmond Bain
has been fined thirty five thousand dollars for throwing the
ball at Knicks Ford og Nanobi on Sunday in a
quote unsportsmanlike manner. End quote, Jason and Mike, it's been fun, Audios.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Thanks do great things. Thanks a bunch of seve great.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Thanks Jason Smith Mike Harman live from the Fox Sports
Radio Studios.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Coming up next, we'll.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Tell you why you should not be surprised at anything
that's gone on the last twenty four hours with the
college football playoff. Plus it is the Chargers night. They win,
they get a big w as much justin Herbert as
a hero, Jim Harbaugh how he feels about the team.
But there's another Charger story that maybe coming out that
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might not be something is great. That's next, Jason and
Mike Fox.
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Speaker 3 (32:48):
That was Bill Belichick. Was it really Bill Belichick? Yeah
that was Bill Belichick. Yeah yeah, see now people would know.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
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Bill Belichick doing a Michael boublayesque version of you.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Don't need to just cut it and put it to
That's scary.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, you can just get it like boom, like I
can't believe Tyser doesn't put that together already. Yeah, I
want to watch more plurbis on the other side of
the screen while you guys are working.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I love curbs.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios. Look, we get a little bit
more NFL coming up in a minute, But look, today
it's going to This is not gonna be the end
of the story because the controversy surrounding the college football
Playoff and how awful done it was is going to
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continue to evolve over the next coming days until we
get to the games. But I don't think there's anybody
that could deny that this is an absolute epic fail
top to bottom. You know, you've decided to let teams
in that aren't part of the top twelve, Notre Dame
getting left out, Notre Dame Miami flipping when neither of
them played last week. It's it's just done so hamhandedly
(33:58):
by the College FOOTBA Playoff committee. And what I really
had a hard time understanding was a number of people
in the last twenty FROs that were completely taken aback
and then shocked by.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
This because it was just a matter of what the issue.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
When we previewed this last week, I said, you know what,
I don't think people are understanding just how crazy of
a blank show this is going to be. Because college
football is a sport with no rules. There are no
rules in college football. There's no ruling governing body. It's
just conferences making their own decisions. There are no rules.
(34:34):
N il is here transfer Portal era, there are no rules.
So in a sport with no rules, do you really
think we're gonna get Hey, the College Wall Playoff is
gonna be done nice and neat and tidy.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Now, uh yeah, not so much. This is completely expected.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
You should have expected it that it was going to
be this kind of a mess because the sport has
no rules.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Well, no guardrails, no guidelines, and you're in a new forum.
So you're also not able to rely on years upon
years of precedent to say, well, this is how we've
done thing, except for the fact normally, when you've lost
a conference championship game most of the time, virtually all
of the time, you lose at least one or two
(35:13):
slots in the rankings. So as soon as Alabama showed
up at old number nine when they did the reveal,
It's like, oh boy, here we go. So but given
all everything else that transpired thereafter, they slipped out the
back door without Nria mention at this point because it
becomes the discussion of the rest of the cluster. Look,
(35:35):
you got only a couple of football people. Everybody else
is a lobbyist, which means now it's becomes the one
of the great arguments that I'm sure we'll get plenty
of stories. Well, they made a really well reason well
impassioned case here there because they did the break glass
in case of emergency. The head to head was always there,
and they waited until they actually had to play that
(35:57):
card before they actually did so, even the flip flopping there,
are we really that shot?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
No, you shouldn't be this is this is what college again.
If you don't like college football, you wait five minutes. Again,
there are no rules to this sport. So you should
have seen that it was gonna be this much of
a tire fire coming from a mile. I didn't think
that was that much of a look at it. Look,
we're ahead of the curve all the time on the show.
I didn't think that was that much out of the curve.
I thought this is something. Oh yeah, yeah, I know,
you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
This goes back until you actually have a single person
or at the head of the snake that isn't the
SEC commissioner pulling the strings. Then this you're gonna have
recurrences of all of this.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Right, This is.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
A nice, sudden, little snapshot as to the world of
chaos in the NIL as it trickles down to the
rest of the bulls as you have a bunch of
opt outs and concerns of that side of things. So yeah,
huge changes in the offing here. Sometimes you gotta take
the pain to get to that next step.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Now, the other part of it is this, the last
twenty four hours, you have seen a lot of things. Well,
with this being butchered so much, it's the end of
the bowl system. It's the end of conference championship games. Right,
I've seen that. End of conference championship games, end of
weekly rankings and weekly ranking shows, and all these.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Things are ending now.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
As every guy stands up, going, my rankings are really good.
I can't wait to be the predominant. I'm gonna be
the woes of rankings.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Look I get everybody is mad. I understand that. I
understand everybody's looking for something really crazy to say. None
of those things are happening. We're gonna have bowls, We're
gonna have weekly shows, We're gonna have conference championship games.
None of them are going away. All of those things
(37:52):
are making money. They're all part of what's going on
in college football. This playoff and this final poll, it
just becomes part of the lore of the nil era
in college football. It becomes a big storyline and a
big moment. I'm not saying it's not a big moment,
and I'm not saying we're not gonna have changes, because
there will be some changes, But none of this is ending. Really,
(38:14):
We're not gonna have com college CHAMPIONSI games are over now. No,
they're not over. Oh when people are gonna opt out
of bulgames, No, we're still gonna have bowl games. A
couple of teams opted out, they'll find a way to
fill those ball games. It's gonna happen. We're still gonna
have shows. We're not gonna have shows. We're not gonna
have rankings to argue about. We're not gonna put stuff
out there that helps the romans of college no preseason
top twenty five.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Man, come on, it's just stupid, right, So hear I
heard that.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
That was almost as dumb as what that some man
had to say on Dan Patrick has come.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
On, it's just stupid, right. That's ay, Kurt Mavauqua, that's
just stupid. Now, the one change you know we talked
about that you were gonna get. We mentioned this earlier
in the hour. You're gonna get to sixteen teams in
college football player for next year because it happened in
Notre Dame. That's a change that will happen. College football
will change. It's not gonna end stuff just because oh
what a horrible moment. Yeah yeah, okay, great, because what's
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going on. Everybody's talking about college football. It's a big thing.
They're gonna find a way to turn this in a
way to make more money. They will put four more
teams in next year. It's gonna be awesome. We're gonna
be great. Nothing is going to end. I mean, I
get that people are mad, and I understand that. So
I want to give people a couple of days to understand, Hey,
you sound stupid when you say stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
But after a.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Couple of days, like, Okay, you understand that that's not
gonna happen. You understand that this this is not gonna
Oh hey, look a.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Alabama made it in despite getting blown out, So we're
not gonna have a wait. That means we can still
have a conference championship game and teams can still make
it in when in effect, we kind of saved the
conference championship games. Oh wait a minute, Wait a minute,
Wait a minute. I mean the ball system was gonna
be dead for you. Everything's gonna kill the balls that
we're still playing balls.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
It's like the movies and TV shows, like where the
guy repays the debt gun nets in them out?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, just one more job, right yeah yeah yeah,
well one more job and maybe you do something else, right.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
No, no, no, no, I get you said I was
out after this. It only ends when I say it.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I mean, that's just people want to have crazy talk
man crazy. But the invention of the playoff was supposed
to kill off bulls. Yeah everything, what did they do?
They multiplied like rabbits. Teams are still gonna play. Now,
are balls gonna go out of business and replaced by
other Bowlders.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Of course that's going.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
To be roped into the larger playoff. Maybe, Like there's
lots of things that may change. They ain't going away.
We're still gonna have Bowl games. I'm telling you. Too
many sponsors want their name and brand recognized.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Exit out bout of Fresca, Exit Swollen Dome, Jason Smith,
Mike Carmen. Uh, look, I know we kind of ran
out of time. I'm sure this Quentin Jammer story. Yeah,
if it's real, we'll get a lot of play tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
We'll get into it, my buddy Ben Mallards. Next, this
is Fox. Pretty good, Thank you,
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight the Jason Smith Show
with my bes friend Mike Harmon, and oh boy, do
we have a Justin Herbert interview you have to hear
coming up in about twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Charnie's get the big win tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We talked about how tough he was sometimes quarterbacks you
gut it out like he did.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Incredible night for him, big hero he was.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You gotta hear his postgame interview coming up in twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Pretty good, deep, prediculous.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
It is awesome. But it's very rare that the NFL
has to share headlines with college football. Right once in
a while, when you get to the semi finals of
the playoff. Okay, yeah, but today, in the last twenty
four hours, is one of those days because of the
hecknicness and the craziness of what we saw with the
(01:24):
final college football playoff poll that came out, leaving Notre
Dame out Miami and Notre Dame flip flopping when neither
team played. James Madison is in, Tulane is in. Duke
does not get in even though they won, they have
five losses. Alabama somehow finds a way to get in.
They get blown out in the conference championship game, doesn't matter.
(01:45):
It has been all sorts of epic fails for college
football in the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Right, But the one.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Sympathetic subject, at least up until today was no Tre Dame. Right, you,
Notre Dame incredibly sympathetic. Right, Everybody felt bad they got
left out because clearly, look, in no world does anybody
think James Madison should be in the playoff over Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
No.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I mean, look, they were I think either the fourth
or fifth favorite in terms of betting odds as of
last week. In terms of just what the team is
and how they're constructed. They've got a Heisman finalist in Love, Right,
all of those things coming to this in terms of
sympathetic figures, what you said with.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Notre Dame being a team that the two losses and
look your two laws. You lost to Miami. I get
the Miami had to get in over them Alabama getting in,
that's a thing. But you want the best twelve teams.
Best twelve teams didn't get in, no matter how you
want to cut it into. Best twelve teams did not
get in. Because you decided we're gonna do this, then
we're gonna take the top five the conference winners. Okay,
(02:52):
Tulane and James Madison. It's really difficult. But Notre Dame
had all the sympathy, right, Notre Dame had all the
sympathy after it came out. How does Notre Dame not
get in? I don't understand. As I said, it would
have been a great TV show to have like presidential
debate style Freeman and Krystal ball and debor all debating
with a moderator town hall who should get in and
(03:14):
who shouldn't get in? The play right, That would have
been a great show.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Remember all those weeks ago we were talking about whether
Calin de Bor was gonna get himself fired.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But after today, Notre Dame and not only has gone
full heel. It's been the biggest turn probably since Anakin Skywalker,
and at least it took Anakin a little bit to
go from Hey, I'm the hero, I'm gonna save the
I'm gonna save the Force to Wow, dude, this guy's
Darth Vader Man.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Sorry spoiler, we got to get rid of this guy like.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
This is an incredible heel turn by Notre Dame in
a very short amount of time.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
It's like Grandpa and Willie Wonka. Oh, you like him
until you don't. Ah, he realized he's evil. So everybody
feels bad for Notre Dame. Right, feels bad for Notre Dame.
Then what happens, Well, last night, Notre Dame says, no,
we're not going to a game. Not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
They want to sit here. Insite players would opt out,
it wouldn't be the same. Yeah, forget about the seniors
who play their whole career. Yeah, you don't want to
go to a bowl game for them. No, I'm holding
my breath because I'm upset. Okay, fine, you should probably
go to a bowl game. It's a lot of these
guys last chance to play football. But no, you want
to play politics.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I get it. I get it. You're mad at.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
ESPN because ESPN did nothing but hate on Notre Dame
and all the things that have gone on, and you
don't want them in and you're replaying games where they lost.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
All the last time. All right, all right?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Then today you get ad Pete Bavaqua on The Dan
Patrick Show and the two things that he let go.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You're like, are you kidding me? Bavaqua says that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
The decision for next year has kind of already been
made in that they've received assurances that if they're a
top twelve team next year, they're in the playoff no
matter what.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Oh wait, oh really, all that must be notic Is
this a handshake deal is?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Or is this you just putting it into the atmosphere
to see what no committee member wants to try to
refute it.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
We're elitist, we're no Tre Dame. We're better than you
and we know it. They're the Globo Jim of college football.
We're better than you and we know it. Why Why
wouldn't Ohio State get that? Why doesn't Michigan get that?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I think that's part of the reason that some of
the sympathy might have been tempered.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
We want. We don't want to join a conference.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We don't want to play a conference championship game, but
we want to get We want to be judged differently
than every other school.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Right, We're not to Dame. We're elitist and we know it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Right, So that's enough to make you go wow, man,
come on, dude, you live in reality.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You know we don't want to play another game.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
We still want to be a be independent. And then
Bavaqua just does a one eighty on it when he
tells Dan Patrick how upset he was that the ACC
who was there conference partner in a.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Lot of sports.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But wait, I thought, you want to be judged by
yourself without joining a conference and get an assurance to
get in. No, no, no, now they want to be part
of the ACC, because now Bavaqua is very upset at
how the ACC pushed other schools over Notre Dame when
it came to the arguing that was done in the
last week.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I have tremendous respect for Miami, you know, great team,
great school, but we were mystified by the actions of
the conference to attack you know, their biggest really business
partner in football and a member of their conference. In
twenty four of our other sports. I wouldn't be honest
with you if I didn't say that they have certainly
done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference in
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Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay, so Notre Dame is upset that the ACC pushed
their own schools ahead of Notre Dame and who should
be included in the playoff? Just understand, Oh, we're pushing
Miami or are other schools over you?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
You're upset about that.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You're upset that you put out Did ACC put out
a tweet that of course they're going to back their school, right?
I didn't understand like mystified, an attacked or whatever else,
you know, talking about the replay of the game.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It's your network. It's the big moment for your network. Now.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Do we can argue about how they handled the tiebreaker
and all this stuff that could have solved all of
these mysteries, But that's not for twenty twenty five. In
this case, you have a full partner. You have a
member school of your conference in all sports, you know,
and including the important one of what's that one football
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to where everybody gets a piece of a really sweet, juicy,
glorious oversized pie.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Whereas if you get in.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Oversized pie okay. Whereas if you get in I get nothing.
I get to say, hey, they're part of the track
and field championships for the conference. Later on fotball, I
get nothing. Ye I get the well then on again,
off again relationship they have in those other twenty four sports,
(08:07):
not including football. So yeah, the idea that I'm propping
up a resume that includes what's that, Oh yeah, beating
you get you mad, get over yourselves.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
When I saw this, this is where I said, you
know what, now, I want Notre Dame to get left
out of everything.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I heard it live and just want to started laughing.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I want them to get left out of that. I
want them to get left out of field hockey. I
want to get left out of soccer. I want them
to get left out of pickleball. I get left out
of everything. They partner with the ACC and right because clearly,
you know what they want to give you something a
little bit different. They want out of this agreement with
the ACC.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
They want out of this because they want to be
able to partner with a conference that has a future,
and the ACC but they have a future. Who I
don't know, man, they need to be a little bit more,
a little bit more selfish, a little bit more SEC
and big ten. Likely you may be upset with the
big ten in the SEC and how much they talk
about how important they are and everybody else can go
kick rocks, but the ACC needs a little bit of that.
(09:05):
They need to Hey, we got some big teams, man,
We got Miami in Florida State and Clemson. We're big
boys too, man. They need a little bit of that,
right And.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I also don't have. Some of it goes back to
the tie breaking whatever else is knowing that the landscape
is dominated from immediate perspective, coverage, powerhouse teams, all that
by the big ten at SEC. You need to do
everything you can in your power to protect your little
fief down right, and make sure you're fortified that when
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you're being compared, contrasted, included or not, you put yourself
in the best position. And that's where they have failed
with the look ahead and foresight in the conference.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
They I don't know what kind of future the ACC has,
and no tre Dame doesn't. So this is also a
shoehorn into Hey, we want to get out of this
agreement now for whatever reason, we want to get out.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
We want to get out of this.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
But mainly it's it's just I saw this, I said,
this is such. This is Notre Dame on brand to
a t, where it's we are better than all of
you and we don't care. We are elitist, we are
above the fray, and we want it how we want it.
We don't want to play nice with anybody. We don't
want to say, hey, we can all get rich here. No, no, no, no,
(10:17):
we want everything. And really they want to be part
of a conference, but now they don't want to be
part of it. We want to be part of a conference.
We want to be part here and get all this,
but now we're mad at you. But when it comes
to being part of a conference, no, no, we don't
want to actually join a conference to play a conference
championship game. We want to be able to just be
judged and get a berth in the playoffs without having
to worry about that like they want. This is so
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incredibly outlandish behavior that I don't know that they live
in reality, right, Like Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, Notre Dame is awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
If Notre Dame was really that big of a draw,
If Notre Dame was that great. They would have found
a way in. They would have found a way in
over a couple.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Of those teams.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Right, So I think Notre Dame is looking at their
at Lansco or we really as popular? We really that team?
Are we really that guy? But they think are and
they want to act that way. And I'm sorry, but
I'm done with that. I'm done with Notre Dame. We
want to be independent all but oh we kind of
want to join, but only when it benefits us. They
are in it for nobody but themselves, and they're over
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the top with it.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
All of the schools are like Michigan's in it for themselves,
Buyer State, it is, Alabama is. But when they're so
over the top and in your face about it, yeah,
it rubs me the wrong way. So yeah, I want
to see them get left out of everything. Now, left
out of everything. We're above everything else in college football?
Why not just say, hey, next year, if we're in
the top twelve, give us a national championship.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Why should we even have to play those games?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Why we should have to play Ohio State or Texas
in some kind we no, no, no, not we We
had a tough enough sky.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
We played Navy.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay, I mean, come on, we played Syracuse, We played
some of these tough teams. Just make us a national
If we finish in the top twelve, we're the national champions.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Just what, just say, why don't you want that? It's
just laughable.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You want to be independent, and with that comes is
fraught with some issues. Now you look at the composition
of these committees that are making these decision. You got
a couple of people that are football people and the
rest are lobbyists for lack of a better term. Right,
they're trying to figure out how things work best for
the conference with which they're affiliated, which means you need
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to see it at that table, and you do because well,
Marcus Freeman was on the Today Show the other day
doing his stump speech, but VAK was on with Dan
Patrick in the morning giving his you know, crime a river.
You might as well have had a guy with a
violin behind him as he did it and started talking
tough about the conference and everything else.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It's like you're not in it.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
So their job is to stand for their conferences as
everybody was in that building, which is why you're always
going to have all these issues. And it's going to
be fraught with controversy. He's definite a perfect system. You
had it in terms of the numbers, but you couldn't argue.
You then wanted to argue about coefficients and how that
worked out. Right, There's no perfect solution. There's always going
(12:54):
to be problem unless you go undefeated. Just don't get
to that point. Don't let it go to the because
as soon as you do, it's done. And in this case,
when it got muddy, you know, you got you had
the opportunity to go to the trump card, which was
always Now we compare them side to side, head to head,
and you get left out and that's the end of it.
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But all of it brought on by the fact that
the independence and the schedule, and we can do all
of that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You lost the two.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Games off the front and by a total of four points,
and I would argue, yeah, you're one of the top
teams in the country.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Unfortunately, this is the way.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
It's fuzzy math, as we love to say on the show.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
To where you lose.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Now, I will say this positive for Notre Dame because
this is a positive for the rest of college football.
As I always say when something big, controversial, happens to
one of the big movers and shakers in a game,
a popular team. That's when we get changed is effected.
Right when we got instant replaying Major League Baseball, when
the Yankees were involved in a game where a home
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run went off the foul pole and it was we
could go back and look at it again. Hey, and
if all the Yankees we got changed, right, no tre
Dame getting left out of the playoff. We are one
hundred percent going to a sixteen team playoff next year.
All the difficulties that college football had this year, all
the different conference commissioners. For some reason, I don't know
how people can't get on board with the fact that
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way we can all make more money with more games
and more teams in the playoff. I don't know how,
but anyway, that's reality. No tre Dame getting left out.
They will magically, they will wave a magic wand and
they will magically find a way to settle all their
grievances and say, hey, guess what, sixteen teams in the
playoff next year, So this doesn't happen again.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Well, to be fair, they've already evidently been guaranteed in
play exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
But so this doesn't happen, and what if Notre Dame
is fourteen next year? Right, But just because like when
it happens to the big teams, you get changed. If
this happened to Texas Tech, if this happened to Wisconsin,
and this happened to even a team like Auburn or no,
it's not happening, but it happens in Nore Dame and
it's so front and center, and they've they've sucked all
the oxygen out of the story because it's Notre Dame.
(15:05):
We will get changed. That will happen next year. It
will be an easy decision. It's not gonna be well,
we're gonna look at sixteen. We're gonna see if it
works for us. It's gonna be one day you're gonna
wake up sources NCAA to go to sixteen teams. It's
gonna be formalizing a vote on Friday, and then Friday
we've got a sixteen team playoff. Because it's Notre Dame,
it will happen.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, and Sin it's a lot of the big talent
that we're part of the reveal and debate shows about this,
and we're very vocal saying we should just abolish the rankings.
A lot of resumes are flying into networks right now
because with an expanded playoff field means there's a lot
more teams that are gonna be fighting for the back
end of it at two loss and three loss teams.
So you know you have more debate and more attention
(15:47):
on those shows than ever. So yeah, get those resumes
boned up. If you're a former college or pro athlete,
you want.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Back in and maybe TJ, you want to contact the
Notre Dame Athletic director. Because we heard from a very
Kurt Bovaqua on The Dan Patrick Show earlier today.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
DJ. Yeah, he was blowing bubbles as soon as his
story broke up, like I can't.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Wait to know my Boerman Kurtbavaqua, I gotta do it,
like all day.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
It's like it's building up in me, like I gotta
do it. It's one of the greatest.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Baseball cards of all time, his seventy six tops. Yeah,
Bubble Gum Championship, Kurt Bavaqua Legend.
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we'll have more from the college football playoff controversy. Why
we should have all saw this coming, this controversy. But
you will hear from Justin Herbert a postgame interview. You're
gonna love and by that I mean it's gonna be awkward,
but you're gonna love it. It's next right here, Jason
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Speaker 3 (17:58):
Oh this is my favorite one her Jason Nickelback or Creed.
This is Creed. Yeah, no, it's Rudolph. It's it's Creed
with Rudolph.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
That is not John Cena.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Let it go.
Speaker 10 (18:33):
He yes, rock.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I like how they went away from the Rudolph version.
We're gonna go back into our song. Yeah, okay, you
have to.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I gotta think I don't know this, but I got
to think that Creed does this in concert around the holidays,
Like if they're doing a holiday concert somewhe where, it's
one of those hey, you know, forgotten bands of the
aughts that you embarrass you bought tickets to see, Like
if they're doing this, hey, you know, the singer comes
Scot Staff comes out and he puts on a hat
like they were gonna do this, and we do it
like this, and then you go into the song.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
As it's Jason, you should reach out and tell him
to do it? Yeah, what about you do that? Which
you do this version?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
But then the thing is people want to hear higher
the regular version as well. So maybe I don't know,
maybe maybe you close with this like that's one. Oh yeah,
that's what you do. You come out for your encore
and you close with that and everybody says good night.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah that I like that better. Is he still with Creed?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I can't believe they would say no to were touring
and making money. I mean, I just as we've.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Got a lot of bands that don't have don't think
he's is he? I don't think he fought. I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
At some point, every every band fights with their I mean,
tell me been where they haven't loved, Whether they always
love their lead singer.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
It's fair.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I guess Rolling Stones, I guess okay, that's it. Yeah, okay,
led Zeppelin, Mack and Keef, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I mean Zeppelin they love each other because they don't.
They haven't had to deal with each other for many
many years.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I always felt like the who everybody hated each other.
I always felt like that.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Well, I mean, there were always those reports that they
were bailing out and whistle okay, okay, and then they
just kind of ran out the string here and down
the stretch, firing and hiring Zach Starkey a couple of
times to drum for him, and and they just ran out.
I think they finally played their final show.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
All right, Taja, I want you to mash up Last
Christmas with Boris the Spider.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Okay, mash yes.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So we have two postgame soundbites you have to hear
from Monday Night Football. The first is Justin Herbert, charges quarterback,
who had a really I tell you he had a
heroic game. Umber of times he got hit and he
got sacked forty six times tonight.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Seem like, yeah, he was hit on every play.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
This is just Justin Herbert's life this season because of
the offensive line injuries. Really, Joe Walt might be the
MVP of the NFL.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
You have been standing for that going on about six
or seven weeks at this point.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
So not a great night statistically for him, But every
time they needed to get down and get a score,
they got a score. Now number one in your heart,
Herbert was awesome. But after the game, when Laura Rutlis
was looking to interview him, Justin Herbert had no desire
to talk to anybody following their victory.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I'd like to watch.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
The interception there that's steal this game for you guys
to get this win.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah, the defense fight is incredible.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
A second in the first thing she goes, she goes
up to him and she says, hey, Justin, can we
talk to you? He says, I just want to go
celebrate my teammates. Yeah, I know, I know, but but
but let's try. Let's go back and we're back in
a bit. All right, lot's good, I.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Know, talk like, what was it like to watch the
interception there that steal this game for you guys to
get this win.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
Yeah, the defense played incredible. You know, they came up
with so many big stops. Say so so proud to
be able to play for those guys, and the way
they compete it down and out is really.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Fun to watch. Pause right there, How fast is he talking?
He wants to be done right in the entire time.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
His eyes are direty around because he wants to He's
trying to clock where his teammates are to go give
them hugs.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I just want to throw up some love. Yeah, but
can we get you for a second. Now, I understand this.
I understand this. I understand Justin Herbert, but he also
got to get dude, you the quarterback of the team
on Monday night football. They're going to talk to you
after the game. Okay, you gotta understand this is part
of the deal.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, but yeah, but either smart thing I do appreciate
about Justin Herbert. I was actually just talking to my
to my daughter and she was asking how the game finished,
talking about the college soccer game, whatever.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
But the the.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Fact that Justin Herbert's in a bunch of commercials where
he doesn't speak like he wants to know part of it.
It's like he's like practicing, like he's throwing the ball
and it's like for bank and whatever else. Like he
is the most I have any lines, unwilling I'm in unwilling,
super stunning quarterback there is. And I love that about
I was like, I want nothing to do with that.
I just want I just want to play ball. I
just slash you want to play ball?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Jerry Dad, another one of the agents on the phone.
All right, let's hear the rest of the interview ahead.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
We know you were dealing with the broken hand tonight
you gutted it out, you were hit multiple times.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
How are you feeling right now?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Do pretty good?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
And then what can you say about the way that
this team was able to pull this off in overtime?
You guys know how important this game was and how
bid the opponent was on the other side.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
Yeah, not the way we drew it up. But uh,
we'll watch a film and have to get better at it.
A menu, you too, So I have to get better
at it and keep moving forward. All right, thank you?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Does you jah? All right? Now you can go all right?
You get three questions? Make him count?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I really think Laura Rutledge spoke more than Justin Herbert
in that interview she did.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
She told the interview was about.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Fifty seconds long, and I think she spoke for about
thirty eight seconds of it. Yeah, yeah, that's nice. Count
one two.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Okay, from the beginning with when she asked him the question,
and then we'll go all the way to there.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I'll count Justin Herbert, harmon, you count Laura Rutledge?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Okay, okay, god, I know to be just talking really beast.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
What would like to watch the interception there? That's steal
this game for you guys to get this win.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, the defense played incredible.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
You know, they came up with so many big stops todays,
so the way they can pete it down and down
out is really fun to watch.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
We know you were dealing with the broken hand tonight.
You gotted it out. You were hit multiple times.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
How are you feeling right now? Pretty good?
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
And then what can you say about the way that
this team was able to pull this off in overtime?
You guys know how important this game was and how
bad the opponent was on the other side.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Yeah, not the way we drew it up. But we'll
watch the film and have to get better at it.
N you too, well, we have to get better at
it and keep moving forward. All right, Thank you, Thank you,
Jo good.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
All right, now we can go celebrate with his teammates.
Thank you, Lauren, great job. All right, all right?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I got how many seconds were like twenty three, twenty four,
sixteen seconds for Justin Hurbert.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Because you have that like three or four seconds where
he pauses to say, hey, thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, good game, you two. I really don't want to
talk here, I really you take me with you. Yeah,
you're just swimming by. Just grab my arm and take
me with his pretty good. Thank you, Yeah, thank you,
thank you. That's got it. We're gonna keep that one around.
Not pretty good.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Not talking about this, We're not talking now about that.
I feel pretty good, thanks man. I mean, that's like
asking Bill Belichick about Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, pretty good, thank you. Yeah, I'm on the next season.
We're on the next season.
Speaker 11 (25:32):
Uh so your selfish baskets.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
What happens when interviews go wrong?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Uh, now, we gotta bring you what Jim Harbaugh said,
Chargers head coach following this game time, very emotional game.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah right, very big win.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And you know, yeah, Jim Harbor, when when his team
wins a big game, he doesn't shy away from how
good of a win is it is, But just how
good of a win was this for the Chargers over
the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Good?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Pretty good, thank you.
Speaker 12 (26:08):
This is definitely, I don't maybe the best best feeling,
you know, just a wonderful, wonderful feeling of winning and
thrill of victory. It's certainly in the discussion I put
in the discussion the birth of my seven children, my marriage, uh,
you know, in the conversation in the conversation, just joyful.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
In the conversation, marriage, kids, and this game, not the
national championship, not beating Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Now you can't open that door game. And then this game, yeah,
you opened the door of the championship. People start asking
for Well, it doesn't matter. Still a great day. We
still won without getting anything from Connor Stallions. We won
those games.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
We had a great day. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
My kids, all seven of my I like you said,
all the kids, getting all the kids in, and my
marriage and then this game.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Good, pretty good, thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
And it's like Steve Martin and his Christmas wish thing
Saturday that live he's called the Children of the World.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
He's coaching the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
No no against his brother No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
This one, this one bigger this, this one's a bigger win.
I did that.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I mean, the sarcasm bucket is obviously filled underneath him
with this. But the fact that he went and decided
that was the tact he was going to play.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, kind of like the cut of his chid. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Because I wonder if you Because Harpo was one of
those guys that have bet came off the day after
the interview and said m Now this might be up there.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Okay, so seven kids, marriage, Okay, that's the top eight. Uh,
you know, maybe the national title, super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Ah, but maybe you don't like some of your kids.
Maybe maybe like three or four of them and the
other three or four you don't like, and maybe this
jumps up a bit in the top ten.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
How about that? Maybe it's kind of like that should
have been the follow up. How do you rank your kids?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Maybe it's kind of like college football play if you
have your top twelve, but you have to rank a
couple of games in the top You can't just rank kids.
You have to rank just like you know, you have
to rank James Madison in Tulane, So you gotta put
these games up ahead of a couple of your kids.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Hey, Jim, when you rank your seven kids, which one's
the Tulane and which one's the James Madison?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You know the ones haven't done anything yet because they're
too young, right, the ones you can't really judge yet, Right,
I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Are they trending towards a top five finish?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Are we looking at barely hanging on?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Which one of your kids would be in the hypothetical
six to eleven battle against this game, like which which
kid would you have?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Which one's getting a bye?
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Four?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Which four things get a bye? Because if your marriage
doesn't get a bye, whoa are you? I think your
marriage has to get a by at least two of
your kids have to get a bye. Maybe you put
one game in. They put the national chance national title
gets in there. Yeah, but I know this is the
type of game though, that I know he loves, right,
He loves the toughness of his quarterback. Because find someone
in your life and for those that haven't heard of go,
(28:52):
go and just YouTube it. Just just search.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Jim Harbaugh talks about Justin Herbert. I don't know that
you've ever had a coach gush over a player like this.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Right, it's the antithesis of the Bill Belichick Tom Brady relationship.
But so I think Justin Herbert might trump some of
his kids. So to see him play with this level
of toughness after a surgery and then Cameron Dicker finished
drives with big field goals and your defense plays tough,
I could believe him that this win actually ranks highly
(29:22):
for him because of those factors.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
His guy, Justin Herbert Exit about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
We have more coming up in.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Ninety seconds, but first, Chris Burphett has what's trending in
the wide world of sports tonight see Pete.
Speaker 13 (29:39):
The Colts are trying out Philip Rivers. Yes, that Philip Rivers,
forty four years old, hasn't played in five years, and
it looks like they will give him a chance on
Tuesday to show if he can be part of a
quarterback room whose only healthy inhabitant is Brett Rippion, formerly
of Boise State and on the practice squad. Interesting times
(30:01):
in Indianapolis as everything comes apart from them. After a
Sunday where Daniel Jones suffered in season ending achilles tear
and Riley Leonard is now week to week Monday Night
Football Chargers took down the Eagles twenty two to nineteen
in overtime. Four interceptions by Jalen Hurtz and a play
where he had multiple turnovers on the same play, but
(30:23):
in overtime, the final pick coming to Tony Jefferson, sealing
that game. Cameron Dicker with a fifty four yard field goal.
Heisman Trophy finalists were announced on Monday, Notre Dame running
back Jeremiah Love, Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza, Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia,
and Ohio State's Julian Sayin NBA action on Monday, Pacers
(30:43):
defeat the Kings one sixteen one oh five. Spurs power
pass the Pelicans one thirty five one thirty two. Pelican
rookie Pelicans rookie Derreck Queen posted a triple double with
thirty three points, ten rebounds, and ten assists in a
losing effort. Suns take down the Timberwell one o eight
one oh five. On Monday, Terry Rozier pled not guilty
(31:04):
to federal charges of wirefraud and money laundering, stimming from
his alleged role and helping friends cooking bets on his
performance in NBA games and the Orlando Magics. Desmond Bain
has been fined thirty five thousand dollars for throwing the
ball at Knicks Ford og Nanobi on Sunday in a
quote unsportsmanlike manner. End quote, Jason and Mike, it's been fun, Audios.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Thanks do great things. Thanks a bunch of seve great.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Thanks Jason Smith Mike Harman live from the Fox Sports
Radio Studios.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Coming up next, we'll.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Tell you why you should not be surprised at anything
that's gone on the last twenty four hours with the
college football playoff. Plus it is the Chargers night. They win,
they get a big w as much justin Herbert as
a hero, Jim Harbaugh how he feels about the team.
But there's another Charger story that maybe coming out that
(31:57):
might not be something is great. That's next, Jason and
Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Hello, Carol, We're John Cena.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
That is not John Cena.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 11 (32:17):
Your selfish bastard, extra cockfight, I'm standing.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Up in the studio yourself, I'm your poppy tulo.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Now that is not John Cena.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
That was Bill Belichick. Was it really Bill Belichick? Yeah
that was Bill Belichick. Yeah yeah, see now people would know.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
See now though you have AI, you could just get
Bill Belichick doing a Michael boublayesque version of you.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Don't need to just cut it and put it to
That's scary.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, you can just get it like boom, like I
can't believe Tyser doesn't put that together already. Yeah, I
want to watch more plurbis on the other side of
the screen while you guys are working.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I love curbs.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios. Look, we get a little bit
more NFL coming up in a minute, But look, today
it's going to This is not gonna be the end
of the story because the controversy surrounding the college football
Playoff and how awful done it was is going to
(33:36):
continue to evolve over the next coming days until we
get to the games. But I don't think there's anybody
that could deny that this is an absolute epic fail
top to bottom. You know, you've decided to let teams
in that aren't part of the top twelve, Notre Dame
getting left out, Notre Dame Miami flipping when neither of
them played last week. It's it's just done so hamhandedly
(33:58):
by the College FOOTBA Playoff committee. And what I really
had a hard time understanding was a number of people
in the last twenty FROs that were completely taken aback
and then shocked by.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
This because it was just a matter of what the issue.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
When we previewed this last week, I said, you know what,
I don't think people are understanding just how crazy of
a blank show this is going to be. Because college
football is a sport with no rules. There are no
rules in college football. There's no ruling governing body. It's
just conferences making their own decisions. There are no rules.
(34:34):
N il is here transfer Portal era, there are no rules.
So in a sport with no rules, do you really
think we're gonna get Hey, the College Wall Playoff is
gonna be done nice and neat and tidy.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Now, uh yeah, not so much. This is completely expected.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
You should have expected it that it was going to
be this kind of a mess because the sport has
no rules.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Well, no guardrails, no guidelines, and you're in a new forum.
So you're also not able to rely on years upon
years of precedent to say, well, this is how we've
done thing, except for the fact normally, when you've lost
a conference championship game most of the time, virtually all
of the time, you lose at least one or two
(35:13):
slots in the rankings. So as soon as Alabama showed
up at old number nine when they did the reveal,
It's like, oh boy, here we go. So but given
all everything else that transpired thereafter, they slipped out the
back door without Nria mention at this point because it
becomes the discussion of the rest of the cluster. Look,
(35:35):
you got only a couple of football people. Everybody else
is a lobbyist, which means now it's becomes the one
of the great arguments that I'm sure we'll get plenty
of stories. Well, they made a really well reason well
impassioned case here there because they did the break glass
in case of emergency. The head to head was always there,
and they waited until they actually had to play that
(35:57):
card before they actually did so, even the flip flopping there,
are we really that shot?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
No, you shouldn't be this is this is what college again.
If you don't like college football, you wait five minutes. Again,
there are no rules to this sport. So you should
have seen that it was gonna be this much of
a tire fire coming from a mile. I didn't think
that was that much of a look at it. Look,
we're ahead of the curve all the time on the show.
I didn't think that was that much out of the curve.
I thought this is something. Oh yeah, yeah, I know,
you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
This goes back until you actually have a single person
or at the head of the snake that isn't the
SEC commissioner pulling the strings. Then this you're gonna have
recurrences of all of this.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Right, This is.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
A nice, sudden, little snapshot as to the world of
chaos in the NIL as it trickles down to the
rest of the bulls as you have a bunch of
opt outs and concerns of that side of things. So yeah,
huge changes in the offing here. Sometimes you gotta take
the pain to get to that next step.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Now, the other part of it is this, the last
twenty four hours, you have seen a lot of things. Well,
with this being butchered so much, it's the end of
the bowl system. It's the end of conference championship games. Right,
I've seen that. End of conference championship games, end of
weekly rankings and weekly ranking shows, and all these.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Things are ending now.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
As every guy stands up, going, my rankings are really good.
I can't wait to be the predominant. I'm gonna be
the woes of rankings.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Look I get everybody is mad. I understand that. I
understand everybody's looking for something really crazy to say. None
of those things are happening. We're gonna have bowls, We're
gonna have weekly shows, We're gonna have conference championship games.
None of them are going away. All of those things
(37:52):
are making money. They're all part of what's going on
in college football. This playoff and this final poll, it
just becomes part of the lore of the nil era
in college football. It becomes a big storyline and a
big moment. I'm not saying it's not a big moment,
and I'm not saying we're not gonna have changes, because
there will be some changes, But none of this is ending. Really,
(38:14):
We're not gonna have com college CHAMPIONSI games are over now. No,
they're not over. Oh when people are gonna opt out
of bulgames, No, we're still gonna have bowl games. A
couple of teams opted out, they'll find a way to
fill those ball games. It's gonna happen. We're still gonna
have shows. We're not gonna have shows. We're not gonna
have rankings to argue about. We're not gonna put stuff
out there that helps the romans of college no preseason
top twenty five.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Man, come on, it's just stupid, right, So hear I
heard that.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
That was almost as dumb as what that some man
had to say on Dan Patrick has come.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
On, it's just stupid, right. That's ay, Kurt Mavauqua, that's
just stupid. Now, the one change you know we talked
about that you were gonna get. We mentioned this earlier
in the hour. You're gonna get to sixteen teams in
college football player for next year because it happened in
Notre Dame. That's a change that will happen. College football
will change. It's not gonna end stuff just because oh
what a horrible moment. Yeah yeah, okay, great, because what's
(39:03):
going on. Everybody's talking about college football. It's a big thing.
They're gonna find a way to turn this in a
way to make more money. They will put four more
teams in next year. It's gonna be awesome. We're gonna
be great. Nothing is going to end. I mean, I
get that people are mad, and I understand that. So
I want to give people a couple of days to understand, Hey,
you sound stupid when you say stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
But after a.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Couple of days, like, Okay, you understand that that's not
gonna happen. You understand that this this is not gonna
Oh hey, look a.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Alabama made it in despite getting blown out, So we're
not gonna have a wait. That means we can still
have a conference championship game and teams can still make
it in when in effect, we kind of saved the
conference championship games. Oh wait a minute, Wait a minute,
Wait a minute. I mean the ball system was gonna
be dead for you. Everything's gonna kill the balls that
we're still playing balls.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
It's like the movies and TV shows, like where the
guy repays the debt gun nets in them out?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, just one more job, right yeah yeah yeah,
well one more job and maybe you do something else, right.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
No, no, no, no, I get you said I was
out after this. It only ends when I say it.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I mean, that's just people want to have crazy talk
man crazy. But the invention of the playoff was supposed
to kill off bulls. Yeah everything, what did they do?
They multiplied like rabbits. Teams are still gonna play. Now,
are balls gonna go out of business and replaced by
other Bowlders.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Of course that's going.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
To be roped into the larger playoff. Maybe, Like there's
lots of things that may change. They ain't going away.
We're still gonna have Bowl games. I'm telling you. Too
many sponsors want their name and brand recognized.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Exit out bout of Fresca, Exit Swollen Dome, Jason Smith,
Mike Carmen. Uh, look, I know we kind of ran
out of time. I'm sure this Quentin Jammer story. Yeah,
if it's real, we'll get a lot of play tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
We'll get into it, my buddy Ben Mallards. Next, this
is Fox. Pretty good, Thank you,
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