July 19, 2025 • 35 mins
Jason and Mike are joined by NBA insider Mark Medina to open hour 4, talking through all of the biggest storylines coming out of NBA Summer League and the offseason as a whole. Then they react to the NFLPA's executive director stepping down after it was found that he spent hundreds of dollars of the union's money at strip clubs.
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome inside. Final hour tonight, final hour before my vacation.
Here is my celebratory diet, cherry pepsie. You notice the
other things that you left in the kitchen went away
really fast? What am I leaving that? It doesn't have
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to be good? Remember those little colas that you hated?
Oh yeah, yeah, oh those going in like an hour?
Oh okay, selfish bastard. Okay, ah okay, all right, very good.
Final hour of the show tonight, Final hour of the week.
We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We'll get
back into the craziest NFL story of the year coming
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up in about twenty minutes, because boy has the NFL
this has not been a great week for the NFL.
What a blank show, and now it involves strip bars.
But we're getting set for the Summer League Championship on Sunday.
I know Harmon's got a lot of money and his
daughter's collegiate futures. Bet on the Summer League Championship on
Sunday night, So good luck with that. I know, I
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know you're feeling who's playing? I bet it all, bet
it on who. I don't know yet. I'm gonna wait
and see see what Way Coast underdogs all the time.
But are we ever gonna see any trades? We thought
we're gonna get trades? What's next to the Lakers and Lebron?
What about the Clippers now that they got Bradley Beal
Lillard back in Portland. What's a big under the radar
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story of the Summer League getting set to join us?
Now on the hot line. Long time friend of the show,
NBA Insider sports ket to CBSTV here in Los Angeles,
athlt sports as well. He's got a lot of gigs.
He's on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina. It is
Mark Medina. What's happening man? How are you?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I am doing well? I mean, Jason, why are you
going on vacation before you can see the Summer League
championship unfold. And two, I thought you were gonna wait
until Lebron makes this decision about going to the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Okay, A, I can still watch the game even if
I'm on vacation. I mean, I'm not gonna not watch. Okay,
because Harmon's got again. Harmon's got his kids college money
on the outcome of whoever he winds up betting on,
So I gotta be there for him on that. Gotta
be betting on. Motivation in the NBA is tough in
the regular season, let alone summer league. Now, I will.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Tell you this. If you thought that the Oklahoma City
Thunder didn't know how to celebrate winn an NBA championship,
will you just watch this Las Vegas Summer League team.
They might just be barely dallasing every one with water.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Hey, look, I watched last night the Knicks loss of
the Pacers. Again, what else is new? Now? If you
tell me that the Knicks are going to get Lebron
James in the next few days, maybe I'll postpone my
vacation so I can do this. Do you notice is
that gonna happen with the Knicks getting Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know what, Chason, I often get your hopes up
about the Knicks, only then to deflate your feelings. Sure,
he's not going to the Knicks. I think, unlike a
lot of compelling scripts in Hollywood, this ends in a dud.
That he comes back with the Lakers in a uniform.
I think it'll likely be his final season. Maybe there
is a scenario that he rides out this season with
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the contract and plays next season on that kind of
minimum deal so he can go to Cleveland. But if
I had a guess, I think it's final year with
the Lakers and joining the farewell tour while hoping that
he can also win a championship. But now that's a letdown.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That's a letdown. That's that's a real like how much
you know both sides want to move on from each other.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
That's a life enjoy. Jalen Brunt To remember that magazine
article I showed you from Lindy is about where I
said that Jalen Brunton has the case to be the
greatest Nick of all time.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Oh that is true. No, that is true. He would
still be the greatest Nick. It would just be he
would do it and Lebron would put him on his shoulders,
and that would be the statue they put outside of MSG.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Oh wow, yeah, you know what, maybe he does that
vet minimum next year. There's always the chance that he
rides out in the sunset New York.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Look at that. He's just giving you that glimmer of hope,
just to screw with you a little bit. All right, Mark,
let's stay with the Lakers. Did the would be trade break? Dalton?
Connect your reparaly forever? And what the hell happened with
Bronnie James? Hed done? Grown up really fast?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Hey, look, you know what, maybe this should compel lebron
James and Rich Fault a lot out of statement that
because of how great Bronnie James has played, he affirms
that he's one hundred percent committed to the Lakers. On
the other hand, maybe this is finally the thing that
mad makes a deal with Lebron James possible. Or are
they throwing a sweetener that is browny The teams will
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actually think it's an asset that they're package deal. You
never know, and maybe that Nick will like him as well.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
All right, now he's hitting you with a club, as
I know, right, Yeah, Well, he's like bam bam and
the Flintstones bam bam. Keep hitting you all right, now
you go Acrosstown to the Clippers. You haven't been on
this again on your Twitter at Mark g underscore Medina
the Clippers getting Bradley Beal a couple of days ago.
I gotta say, Mark, Yeah, Bradley Beal is nice. But
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I know how the season's gonna end for the Clippers.
They're gonna win forty five ish games. They're gonna lose
in the first round. Because you're built around guys who
are in their mid thirties. They don't suddenly get younger
and suddenly get better. That's how the year is gonna
go for the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I actually, I think you're right.
I mean this whole idea that Clipper fans and the
Clippers should feel encouraged about Kawhi Leonard because he got
through a postseason healthy. I think you know, that's the
same thing as you know, landing on seventeen in Rolette
and thinking, Okay, just because I did it once, I
can do it again. The reality is we've seen Kawhi
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Leonard's injury history. We've also seen James Harden's playoff history
may as well be on the sidelines as well. Bradley Beal,
I know, talking to his agent, Mark Bartlestein, you know,
he's saying that he's better with his recovery. He's just
looking to bulletprove his body in the offseason. He's a
lot better conditioning than he was health wise in Phoenix.
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The Clippers are talking about how they want him to
be the best version of himself and feel like he'll
play a lot of starters minutes, being All Star, all
that good stuff. I think that can play out, but
the reality is Bradley Beal's injury history is what it is.
So I'm with you that the Clippers are going to
be competitive but not great. They'll get to the playoffs
in the first round and that's probably it, and it's
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going to be the same old story. They have Kawhi Leonard,
James Harden. They're good, they have a good supporting cast,
but it's not quite good enough. So I think really
the only realistic pathway for hope here is because they
made that tough but necessary decision of not extending Norman Pale,
they do have some cap space to work with, you know,
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to make a big deal next summer, So who knows,
Maybe that means Janna Thompson Koupo comes to LA but
with the Clippers and not the Lakers, or who knows,
maybe it's Nicola Jokic. We'll have to wait and see.
But whether it's those blockbuster deals or you know, two
solid kind of deals, the Clippers are more lined up
for long term success, success and all of a sudden
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becoming a contender this season.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
You mentioned Jannis now former teammate Damian Lillard goes home.
How does that resonating throughout the league?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, I think on one hand, it's kind of a
feel good moment. I was listening to Mark Stein's interview
with you the other day, or you know, the romanticism
of reuniting the fact that they're on better terms now
after kind of the ugly departure. That's a cool thing.
I think the other cool thing is that he can
spend this entire season rehabbing his achilles close to families,
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still have a presence around the team with this young
this young group of players. But at the same time,
I think he's also choosing his team that's not quite
ready to make that you know, championship contending leap, So
you know, I know one of the reasons why he
wanted out of Portland is he felt like, even though
they're making the playoffs every year, they weren't in that
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contending status. But I think at the end of the day,
he was also mindful that even if he joined the
contender this season, he's out for next season, so that
idea of being part of a championship team's gone. And
I think the other thing is even these contending teams
have a lot of question marks on whether they're true
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contention status. Outside of Oklahoma City, which wouldn't have been
a viable option anywhere, everyone else has legitimate question marks.
So with Portland, they're not a contender by any means,
but they do have a good young nucleus. And you know,
I was attatched Summer League. One of the cool things
with seeing young Hanson in person, he's a legitimate center
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a lot of great excitement, obviously because of the Chinese market,
but you know, they're calling him the Chinese version Nikole
Jokic for a reason. He has a great combination of
power and skill that makes me suggest that he's going
to be a pretty specially unflatter now.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Now, so speaking of summer, we're getting ready for the
Championship on Sunday, right, We're seeing teams get you know,
get there, and what could be a game that dozens
of people watch? Uh, give me a big story that
you like from the Summer League that maybe not quite
getting the attention of Will Lebron get traded, Damian Lillard,
Bradley Beal. Yeah, give me something from the Summer League, Like, hey,
you know, I really like this story.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, well I would say what I would just mention
about young Hanson that he came out of nowhere. I
mean there was a lot of intrigue in buzz when
he got drafted. I know Jake Fisher said that some
people said that he is Chinese version of Jokics, but
actually seeing him in person and just really galvanize the
excitement in the arena. The Blazers are playing games at
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like seven point thirty eight o'clock at night, and this
is in Las Vegas, and usually now is the time
to go get dinner, getting early see at the casino tables.
And it was a pretty riveting crowd. The best atmosphere
I saw outside of Cooper Flagg's debut as well as
you know, coinciding with Brownie James's return. So I would
say that's the next real good stories. I think the
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other part, yeah, there's obviously the headliner with Cooper flag
and all attention on him, But I think the cool
part was how he responded the summer league that even
though none of this stuff matters and the fact that
he didn't shoot the ball well really means anything, he
was legitimately pissed off about it so much as trainer
Matt McKenzie told me that he was upset the next
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day after it and talking about what he needs to
do to adjust, and there was never any concern about
it because of this summer league, but provided an early
window that this guy really really hates to lose, and
you put that into context of the regular season him
gained tested as a rookie. I think he this really
illustrated that he's all about the right things as far
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as his compeative spirit and work ethic. That was really
cool to sue.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Now, did you see the video that was circulating Klay
Thompson making seventy two straight three point shots? What's your record?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah? I hear there's some connecting the dots on why
that is because of some dif some things going on
in his life.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Right A little bit is that, Hey, if I was
dating making the stallion I hate, gave me the ball.
I'm ready, I'll make seventy two in a row. Right here,
I go. Go. Women don't weaken legs. That's what he's
trying to show. I can have both.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, look, I mean happy, happy wife, happy wife, happy
significant other, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I think.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
The other thing that we're seeing with Clay is that,
let's be real, ever since acl Achilles injury in twenty
nineteen twenty, he's he's never been the same player, never
will be the same player, especially defensively. But as a shooter,
those things can carry through. So even though his roles
evolved with Golden State, his roles evolved with Dallas, He's
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still a pretty effing good shooter. And I expect that
now that he's more settled into Dallas and there's less
turbulence about, you know, adapting to playing with Luca Dodgics
than adapting to not playing without Luke and all the
different injuries, You're going to see a much better version
of Clay on the offensive end next season.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
All right, Mark, let's end here now as we get
set for the last month before we you know, everybody
goes away vacation. You know, we thought we could get
some big trades. You're telling me Lebron's going to wind
up staying are we going to see any more any
more big trades? We saw a lot of activity in
and around the draft and trades. Are we going to
see any big trades between now in the beginning of
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the season.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Well, you never say never. I mean, I think it's
telling that even though the Milwaukee Buck said that they've
been in constant communication with Giannis Antokumbo and nothing's changed.
You know, he's doing his Instagram Instagram live video saying
he's probably he's probably going to be back with the
Milwaukee Bucks. All that, that probably still left the window
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for other teams to be determined to give the Milwaukee
Bucks different trade packages. So if there is a major deal,
I think it's going to involve that. But you know,
if I had to put money and look, I took
your guys advice about how to gamble in Vegas last
week did not work. But if I had to put
money on, I don't think that there's going to be
major trades. All the major things already happened, Kevin Durant
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gain trade as Houston, the surprise with the Milwaukee Bucks
waving and stretching, Damian Loward, and then Damian joining Portland.
I think now it's just going to be all different
kind of chalk things about where does Jonathan cominge go?
Is you come back to Golden State as their actual
team that wants to sign him after not really gaining
any offers for the first three weeks of free agency
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and then other rotation players. But major things uh, not
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I don't think he's on Twitter at Mark G Underscore Medina.
That said, Mark g Underscore Medina. Mark is always buddy,
appreciate you popping on with us as always. Well, we'll
talk to you soon and enjoy the weekend, enjoy the
Summer League championship.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Indeed, and Jason, enjoy your vacation. I hear that it's
going to be with Mike Brown. You guys are going
to be breaking down tape till five o'clock in the morning.
Sounds like a fun time.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, here here, here's my tape. Okay, at the end
of a game, just give the ball to Brunson. There
we go.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's it, Hew of a coaching advice. Continue to invoice
James Dong.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Take it easy, buddy, have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You two guys.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Hey, Mark, there we go. Uh yeah, I mean look,
I would love to say there would be a trade,
but look, it all goes back to what we've talked
about is that if a star wants a trade in
the NBA, he's got to be a being the bad guy.
If you're not okay being the bad guy, you're not
gonna get traded. Teams are gonna hold on to you
and try to make it work, and they're not gonna
give up a star because it's so hard to replace you.
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We've seen. If you want a trade, you can be traded,
but you have to be the bad guy. Lebron will
get traded in a second. If he says the Lakers
buy me out or trade me. Guess what Lakers would
buy him out or trade him. They would figure something
else out, even if the buyout doesn't make as much sense.
If Lebron said buy me out, the Lakers said, wait, wait, wait, wait,
how about a trade? Okay, now, a trade would happen,
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right if Yanna says, I want to get traded. You
gotta trade me. The Bucks would trade him, but they
have to be okay being the bad guy to say this,
and so far none of them, no stars are okay
with being that bad guy. Lebron, give us back fifty
one point six million of what you're expected to get
this year and we can talk. But it would also
be that thing like we talked with Mark Stein yesterday,
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like they're not gonna let him walk away to a contender,
right because even if you got some of that money back,
what the hell can you spend it on right now?
The confetti? Yeah, confetti in your next bobblehead. I mean,
that's it. That's all. You none a lot in the
marketplace to go get for improving. So Lebron will just
have to smile and get through his season exit out
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Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Uh. You know, we often like to
say how we're ahead of the curve here on the show,
because we are. Sometimes we're a day ahead, sometimes we're
a week ahead, sometimes we're months ahead. But I think
we have a new definition for being ahead of the curve.
Because we have an ahead of the curve heat check
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that we got, right, Mike Carmon, okay, chick heat check
ahead of the curve that we had last night. So
it was about, i'd say, a couple hours into the
show last night when the breaks that NFLPA leader Lloyd
Howell Junior was resigning from his position to position that
to Morris Smith had for so many years. And this
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wasn't surprising because about ten days ago we got the
story that the NFL and the NFL Players Association colluded
together to keep guaranteed money down from NFL contracts following
Deshaun Watson's ridiculous contract that the Browns decided, we're going
to upset everybody by doing this. They guaranteed him two
hundred and forty million dollars and that upset everybody, teams, players, everyone,
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So there is evidence because Pablo Torri, who now finds
everything out chef a podcast calling it that that'd be
a great idea, found out that, yes, their collusion existed
between the NFL the NFLPA horrible headlined wait a minute,
this is a union that showed that we are working
against the people that I'm here to represent. So that night,
we said, Lloyd Howe, when everybody else, all of the leadership,
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Treader and everybody, they all need to be replaced, to
be swept out. This is awful, right. I get that
it's a it's a bit of an inside baseball story
where we're talking about money in the NFLPA. But bottom
line is this, for anybody who's ever joined a union,
you pay dues to a union so they protect you,
not so they can be in league with the corporation
and they can wind up hurting you. So that's something
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a lot of us have gone through. So I thought, Okay,
he's gonna let let go. But no, it doesn't happen. Okay,
well let's let's see how things go. Maybe they're gonna
be doing it very quietly. And then yesterday the story
breaks that JC Treader, who also is on the leader
leadership board, according to Pablo Tory, had the story that
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he told running backs, when you come up for contract,
exaggerate an injury to give you more leverage, and contract
talks whoa, wha, wha wait, noh, so lie about an
injury to get leverage, and contracts are like whoa, whoa, whoa.
Now this is not anything in league with the NFL.
This is something will be against the NFL NFL teams.
But here's another example of leadership being in a position
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where what are you doing? Right? So that happened early yesterday,
and then about nine o'clock last night we got word
that Howell resigning as head of the NFLPA. Okay, and
then you said to me, there was this time last
night you said, boy, Jason, doesn't this feel like a
Friday night news dump story? Like this would be something
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that you know, eleven thirty on a Friday night, Hey,
I'm resigning as NFLPA head, And oh my goodness, all
this controversy and by the time we get to Monday,
it's all gone. We're on to other things. It's Friday
night news dump and this is our heat check ahead
of the curve moment. Because I said to you, well,
maybe they got to get ahead of something that's gonna
drop on Friday. And we laughed because I don't know
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anything except but sure enough, what happened today. Lloyd Howell
resigned last night because a report that comes out today
that there were documents showing he charged the union for
two visits to strip clubs, including a seven hundred and
forty dollars car service that took them from the airport
to one of the clubs. Happened in twenty twenty three.
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Happened not too long ago, where he took these receipts
and charged them to the NFLPA. That was what he
spent at Tutsi's Cabaret in Miami Gardens, a seventy six
thousand square foot venue. Billing itself adds the world's largest
strip club. Quote full nude, number one rated. That is
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your former NFLPA executive director. I'll tell you that's a
heat check ahead of the curve by carbon. Who were
you ahead of the curve? All nude taste, tastefully done,
ah medefinitely, all nude. Go back to that Timberwolves ESPN
the magazine ad all those years ago. Yeah, there's a
lot that goes on with this, the next levels of
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this right text messages between owners that are collusive in name,
in nature and nods and wings and you know that
again way to go, but really without colluding towards anything.
Just hey, you'll be happy down the line. Okay, cool,
So you got that. You got this is a great line.
This Pro Football Talk had this quote from NFLPA Lead
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Security Officer Craig Jones earlier quote, and this is about J. C.
Tredder quote. He is the progenitor of this whole tawdry
episode of posers like that. That's good a person or
thing from which a person, animal, or plant is descended
or originates. And then Ben Bolan a few hours ago,
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longtime NFL writer at Benvolan, here's the evidently the text
of a well a text that's going around. We know
Trader A bent the rules to hire Howell, be covered
up Howell's background check. There was a thing back in
twenty eleven that you know, I had to add a
bunch of tawdry stuff going on. Three had a knowledge
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of Howell's financial arrangement with the Carlisle Group. Four kept
the arbitration decision from his members. Five kept the arbitration
decision from his members that found that he blatantly violated
the CBA. So all of that, that's your leadership, right.
We go back to Demorris Smith, he wrote a book
and whatever else because some of this is on his watch,
going back to Deshaun Watson's deal and the initial reaction
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from owners, all of that. So You've got that into
this and now it's it's about seven hundred and twenty
eight dollars. Car service is the thing that brings him down,
not all of this other stuff. I mean, that's all
with the great background noise. Now it's about a car
service at a strip club. What a clown show man, I mean,
what a look. Everybody's got to get swept out. You
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gotta go out. I'm with hiring Tony Dungee. I'm with
hiring Rod Smith. He's the player that every former player
I've ever talked to says, oh yeah, if he was
commissioner of the NFL would be great. Like, you gotta
do something. All of these guys need to go right.
This is so incredibly embarrassing, not just for the players
but for the league itself, Like you have a guy
that was running things that was colluding to keep salaries down. Meanwhile,
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but I'm still gonna build a players association for my
visits to a strip club, which is car service and
the money I spent, including cash withdrawals from a club
atm and using a VIP room from a few months ago,
like this is this is where we are. Hey, I
want to make sure it's a lot of money. We
want to we got to keep that money down. What
the players getting too much money? Oh, by the way,
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you take care of the strip club stepp right, you
take care of this. Okay, I'm just gonna invoice you
for it. Like this is like I see this and
I go this is the highest level of sports, right,
this is the this is the gold standard of business
and money making. And here's where we are. We're talking
about collusion and deception. And Yeah, I'm gonna have so
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much hubris and think i am so far above repro
coach that I'm gonna put my career in jeopardy by
not just going to strip clubs, but by billing the
union for it. Like like I understand thinking, Hey, I'm
teflon and it's not gonna come back to me. But
you're a really high ranking person in the NFL payer.
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You're the highest ranking person in the NFLPA. You're very
high profile when it comes to labor negotiations. Everybody knows
who you are. The players rely on you to have
their backs on things, and you are, okay, putting that
at risk because I'm going to build the union for
visits to a strip club, like and Look, there's times
when you go out and you have business dinners and hey,
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this is a business dinner, and I'm billing the U.
I understand that. But this is this is not just
a bad object. This is car service to a strip club. Really,
that's okay, gonna have that twenty five hundred dollars Like
you're brought down because you didn't want to spend three
thousand dollars in strips to a strip club that you're
there for like eight hours, right, because the car service
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story was that he got there at ten thirty PM
and then it dropped him off at home eight hours later.
I mean, dude was there from ten to thirty until
six thirty of the more. Yeah, overnight man probably had
breakfast at the strip club. But think about all the
expenses that as the head of the PA that you're
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going through. And now Treader's no longer the president, it's
now Jalen Reeves, Maybin Kalais Campbell and orn Burke's there's
some of the leadership Cameron Hayward, Austin Eckler and others.
So they've got to try to clean up this mess.
But think about all of the expenses that you would
have had you know the quote legitimate, And this is
where you got to decide where's the line, right, where's
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the line of legitimate expenses? Because you could to talk
business for five, five, ten minutes in between the champagne
room and the wing buffet. I mean there's a lot
of business that can be transacted along the way. Hey,
they just replenished the crawd legs all of that. Should
we limit salaries? Wait a minute, new flats just came
out in the special root beer barbecue. I'll give you
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five minutes. I'll be right back. Oh okay, yeah, no,
we got we gotta put a pin in that. Do
we ever really get back to it? No, we'll just
have to reconvene the meeting because you know, my eight
hour car service is almost up for the night. But
it's the idea r Kyles would leave from. He's done.
So you've got all of these legitimate business expenses, right, flights, cars,
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entertainment and dinners, whatever office supplies and all the other
things that you need to run run your part of
the business right and billable hours you know, to other
people that you're using for advice and consultants at all.
And then you get felled by the fact that there's
a car service that is just out of sorts, which
means somebody hates you. Somebody in that business decided, you
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know what, I'm done with this guy. And now we
have to figure out who the whistleblower is in this
entire process, you know. And not only that, but just
think about this for a second. Tutsi's cabaret and I'm
looking at it on the map right now. It takes
on Google Maps. It takes up the part of a
map that normally is taken up like by a by
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a major league ballpark, right Like, that's how big is
seventy six thousand square feet? It really is. It is
like a full block, like a big city block of
strip club. Like it's like a huge apartment building with
like one hundred units. Whatever you think of the biggest
businesses in the city you live in. That's how big
this thing is. Seventy six thousand square feet. To put
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it in like a perspective, a quick Google search and
you know, I'll have to verify this, but it is
estimated that Halloween Horrnites at Universal Studios is one hundred
and ten thousand square feet. Just to put it in
pro Come on, man, no way, It's as big as
Halloween Horror. I'd like, it's as big as when I
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go from the Halloween House all the way down to
the Walking Dead House. There you go, buddy, Wait a minute.
Thousand feet so three quarters of that space is swilled
with glitter, stripper pulls and whatever else. Hang on and
you go down the longest escalator in the world. At Universal,
you have the longest escalator in the world to get
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to part of the park and it's that big. Oh
my god, I'm bringing Sexy Mac. Yeah, it's as big
as Universal Studio. Three quarters of Hollywood. Oh man, I
can imagine walking through the rooms at uh Tutsies instead
of like, oh, I'm going through the Halloween all the
dancers in all the different rooms. Oh my god, what
(29:46):
did I just see? Oh my goodness, Like that's that's
just insane. And yeah, I'm going I mean the hubris
and the belief that people I just don't care and
I'm gonna do this it really you know, he's got
to look and say, huh, I threw my career away
because of three thousand dollars in a strip club. I
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threw my career away because of this, I mean, look
to put it in the rest of the real world.
I mean, this is al Capone and tax evasion instead
of everything else they tried for decades to pin on him. Wow.
I mean they at least they have a dress code
that supposedly is strictly enforced. Oh good, Yeah, it is
strictly enforced. Yes, well that's good. I mean as long
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as you know that's strictly enforced. What does that mean though,
does it have any more particulars there? I would assume,
I would. I'd assume like you'd have to dress up,
like when you go to that big party in eyes
wide shut, like and you have to wear like tuxedos
you got really too. Yeah, I mean I don't think
anything that happens at the eyes white, at least not
that you would see. But like, I think you'd have
to dress up like, yeah, like you're going to a
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real fancy party kind of if you got seventy six
thousand square feet, there's plenty of rooms for that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm thinking of like the party from pulp fiction where
the wolf and everybody they're all dressed in those fancy
tuxied at like nine o'clock in the morning, Like, dude,
how long was the party you were at that you're
dressed like this having drinks at nine o'clock in the morning.
It's a hell of a party. I still commend Harvey
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Kaitel for not only partying through the night and into
the morning, but having the wherewithal to concoct one of
the great plans to really bring the Bonnie situation to
a clean clothes while having a fantastic cup of coffee
that Jimmy brewed. We have an extremely volatile Bonnie situation.
By say, I mean this is the NFLPA. They need
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all kinds of new new leadership in here. This is
this is embarrassing on so many levels, for so many
I mean, I realize I didn't think. I just said, hey,
maybe they got a guard for what's gonna break on Friday.
I'm thinking, Okay, they just did it today because of
the other story. Nope, something worse, something worse than J. C.
Traider yesterday. No, we got it. When he if he
does press conference, do they ask him what his favorite
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song is? Truth of the rumor that Cherry Pie has
played on your request? When you go to Tutsi's do
we have that. Yeah, do Do Do Do Do Do
Do geez? But did you see they evidently have a
song that they're finishing with the original vocals from Yannie Lane.
How about that? I did not know that? Really? There
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you go sting interesting. Uh, let's get away from this
because I mean, it's it's open right now, like you
can go there because it open till six in the morning.
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome inside. Final hour tonight, final hour before my vacation.
Here is my celebratory diet, cherry pepsie. You notice the
other things that you left in the kitchen went away
really fast? What am I leaving that? It doesn't have
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to be good? Remember those little colas that you hated?
Oh yeah, yeah, oh those going in like an hour?
Oh okay, selfish bastard. Okay, ah okay, all right, very good.
Final hour of the show tonight, Final hour of the week.
We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We'll get
back into the craziest NFL story of the year coming
(01:13):
up in about twenty minutes, because boy has the NFL
this has not been a great week for the NFL.
What a blank show, and now it involves strip bars.
But we're getting set for the Summer League Championship on Sunday.
I know Harmon's got a lot of money and his
daughter's collegiate futures. Bet on the Summer League Championship on
Sunday night, So good luck with that. I know, I
(01:34):
know you're feeling who's playing? I bet it all, bet
it on who. I don't know yet. I'm gonna wait
and see see what Way Coast underdogs all the time.
But are we ever gonna see any trades? We thought
we're gonna get trades? What's next to the Lakers and Lebron?
What about the Clippers now that they got Bradley Beal
Lillard back in Portland. What's a big under the radar
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story of the Summer League getting set to join us?
Now on the hot line. Long time friend of the show,
NBA Insider sports ket to CBSTV here in Los Angeles,
athlt sports as well. He's got a lot of gigs.
He's on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina. It is
Mark Medina. What's happening man? How are you?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I am doing well? I mean, Jason, why are you
going on vacation before you can see the Summer League
championship unfold. And two, I thought you were gonna wait
until Lebron makes this decision about going to the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Okay, A, I can still watch the game even if
I'm on vacation. I mean, I'm not gonna not watch. Okay,
because Harmon's got again. Harmon's got his kids college money
on the outcome of whoever he winds up betting on,
So I gotta be there for him on that. Gotta
be betting on. Motivation in the NBA is tough in
the regular season, let alone summer league. Now, I will.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Tell you this. If you thought that the Oklahoma City
Thunder didn't know how to celebrate winn an NBA championship,
will you just watch this Las Vegas Summer League team.
They might just be barely dallasing every one with water.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Hey, look, I watched last night the Knicks loss of
the Pacers. Again, what else is new? Now? If you
tell me that the Knicks are going to get Lebron
James in the next few days, maybe I'll postpone my
vacation so I can do this. Do you notice is
that gonna happen with the Knicks getting Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know what, Chason, I often get your hopes up
about the Knicks, only then to deflate your feelings. Sure,
he's not going to the Knicks. I think, unlike a
lot of compelling scripts in Hollywood, this ends in a dud.
That he comes back with the Lakers in a uniform.
I think it'll likely be his final season. Maybe there
is a scenario that he rides out this season with
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the contract and plays next season on that kind of
minimum deal so he can go to Cleveland. But if
I had a guess, I think it's final year with
the Lakers and joining the farewell tour while hoping that
he can also win a championship. But now that's a letdown.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That's a letdown. That's that's a real like how much
you know both sides want to move on from each other.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
That's a life enjoy. Jalen Brunt To remember that magazine
article I showed you from Lindy is about where I
said that Jalen Brunton has the case to be the
greatest Nick of all time.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Oh that is true. No, that is true. He would
still be the greatest Nick. It would just be he
would do it and Lebron would put him on his shoulders,
and that would be the statue they put outside of MSG.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Oh wow, yeah, you know what, maybe he does that
vet minimum next year. There's always the chance that he
rides out in the sunset New York.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Look at that. He's just giving you that glimmer of hope,
just to screw with you a little bit. All right, Mark,
let's stay with the Lakers. Did the would be trade break? Dalton?
Connect your reparaly forever? And what the hell happened with
Bronnie James? Hed done? Grown up really fast?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Hey, look, you know what, maybe this should compel lebron
James and Rich Fault a lot out of statement that
because of how great Bronnie James has played, he affirms
that he's one hundred percent committed to the Lakers. On
the other hand, maybe this is finally the thing that
mad makes a deal with Lebron James possible. Or are
they throwing a sweetener that is browny The teams will
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actually think it's an asset that they're package deal. You
never know, and maybe that Nick will like him as well.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
All right, now he's hitting you with a club, as
I know, right, Yeah, Well, he's like bam bam and
the Flintstones bam bam. Keep hitting you all right, now
you go Acrosstown to the Clippers. You haven't been on
this again on your Twitter at Mark g underscore Medina
the Clippers getting Bradley Beal a couple of days ago.
I gotta say, Mark, Yeah, Bradley Beal is nice. But
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I know how the season's gonna end for the Clippers.
They're gonna win forty five ish games. They're gonna lose
in the first round. Because you're built around guys who
are in their mid thirties. They don't suddenly get younger
and suddenly get better. That's how the year is gonna
go for the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I actually, I think you're right.
I mean this whole idea that Clipper fans and the
Clippers should feel encouraged about Kawhi Leonard because he got
through a postseason healthy. I think you know, that's the
same thing as you know, landing on seventeen in Rolette
and thinking, Okay, just because I did it once, I
can do it again. The reality is we've seen Kawhi
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Leonard's injury history. We've also seen James Harden's playoff history
may as well be on the sidelines as well. Bradley Beal,
I know, talking to his agent, Mark Bartlestein, you know,
he's saying that he's better with his recovery. He's just
looking to bulletprove his body in the offseason. He's a
lot better conditioning than he was health wise in Phoenix.
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The Clippers are talking about how they want him to
be the best version of himself and feel like he'll
play a lot of starters minutes, being All Star, all
that good stuff. I think that can play out, but
the reality is Bradley Beal's injury history is what it is.
So I'm with you that the Clippers are going to
be competitive but not great. They'll get to the playoffs
in the first round and that's probably it, and it's
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going to be the same old story. They have Kawhi Leonard,
James Harden. They're good, they have a good supporting cast,
but it's not quite good enough. So I think really
the only realistic pathway for hope here is because they
made that tough but necessary decision of not extending Norman Pale,
they do have some cap space to work with, you know,
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to make a big deal next summer, So who knows,
Maybe that means Janna Thompson Koupo comes to LA but
with the Clippers and not the Lakers, or who knows,
maybe it's Nicola Jokic. We'll have to wait and see.
But whether it's those blockbuster deals or you know, two
solid kind of deals, the Clippers are more lined up
for long term success, success and all of a sudden
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becoming a contender this season.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
You mentioned Jannis now former teammate Damian Lillard goes home.
How does that resonating throughout the league?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, I think on one hand, it's kind of a
feel good moment. I was listening to Mark Stein's interview
with you the other day, or you know, the romanticism
of reuniting the fact that they're on better terms now
after kind of the ugly departure. That's a cool thing.
I think the other cool thing is that he can
spend this entire season rehabbing his achilles close to families,
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still have a presence around the team with this young
this young group of players. But at the same time,
I think he's also choosing his team that's not quite
ready to make that you know, championship contending leap, So
you know, I know one of the reasons why he
wanted out of Portland is he felt like, even though
they're making the playoffs every year, they weren't in that
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contending status. But I think at the end of the day,
he was also mindful that even if he joined the
contender this season, he's out for next season, so that
idea of being part of a championship team's gone. And
I think the other thing is even these contending teams
have a lot of question marks on whether they're true
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contention status. Outside of Oklahoma City, which wouldn't have been
a viable option anywhere, everyone else has legitimate question marks.
So with Portland, they're not a contender by any means,
but they do have a good young nucleus. And you know,
I was attatched Summer League. One of the cool things
with seeing young Hanson in person, he's a legitimate center
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a lot of great excitement, obviously because of the Chinese market,
but you know, they're calling him the Chinese version Nikole
Jokic for a reason. He has a great combination of
power and skill that makes me suggest that he's going
to be a pretty specially unflatter now.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Now, so speaking of summer, we're getting ready for the
Championship on Sunday, right, We're seeing teams get you know,
get there, and what could be a game that dozens
of people watch? Uh, give me a big story that
you like from the Summer League that maybe not quite
getting the attention of Will Lebron get traded, Damian Lillard,
Bradley Beal. Yeah, give me something from the Summer League, Like, hey,
you know, I really like this story.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, well I would say what I would just mention
about young Hanson that he came out of nowhere. I
mean there was a lot of intrigue in buzz when
he got drafted. I know Jake Fisher said that some
people said that he is Chinese version of Jokics, but
actually seeing him in person and just really galvanize the
excitement in the arena. The Blazers are playing games at
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like seven point thirty eight o'clock at night, and this
is in Las Vegas, and usually now is the time
to go get dinner, getting early see at the casino tables.
And it was a pretty riveting crowd. The best atmosphere
I saw outside of Cooper Flagg's debut as well as
you know, coinciding with Brownie James's return. So I would
say that's the next real good stories. I think the
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other part, yeah, there's obviously the headliner with Cooper flag
and all attention on him, But I think the cool
part was how he responded the summer league that even
though none of this stuff matters and the fact that
he didn't shoot the ball well really means anything, he
was legitimately pissed off about it so much as trainer
Matt McKenzie told me that he was upset the next
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day after it and talking about what he needs to
do to adjust, and there was never any concern about
it because of this summer league, but provided an early
window that this guy really really hates to lose, and
you put that into context of the regular season him
gained tested as a rookie. I think he this really
illustrated that he's all about the right things as far
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as his compeative spirit and work ethic. That was really
cool to sue.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Now, did you see the video that was circulating Klay
Thompson making seventy two straight three point shots? What's your record?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah? I hear there's some connecting the dots on why
that is because of some dif some things going on
in his life.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Right A little bit is that, Hey, if I was
dating making the stallion I hate, gave me the ball.
I'm ready, I'll make seventy two in a row. Right here,
I go. Go. Women don't weaken legs. That's what he's
trying to show. I can have both.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, look, I mean happy, happy wife, happy wife, happy
significant other, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I think.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
The other thing that we're seeing with Clay is that,
let's be real, ever since acl Achilles injury in twenty
nineteen twenty, he's he's never been the same player, never
will be the same player, especially defensively. But as a shooter,
those things can carry through. So even though his roles
evolved with Golden State, his roles evolved with Dallas, He's
(12:15):
still a pretty effing good shooter. And I expect that
now that he's more settled into Dallas and there's less
turbulence about, you know, adapting to playing with Luca Dodgics
than adapting to not playing without Luke and all the
different injuries, You're going to see a much better version
of Clay on the offensive end next season.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
All right, Mark, let's end here now as we get
set for the last month before we you know, everybody
goes away vacation. You know, we thought we could get
some big trades. You're telling me Lebron's going to wind
up staying are we going to see any more any
more big trades? We saw a lot of activity in
and around the draft and trades. Are we going to
see any big trades between now in the beginning of
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the season.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Well, you never say never. I mean, I think it's
telling that even though the Milwaukee Buck said that they've
been in constant communication with Giannis Antokumbo and nothing's changed.
You know, he's doing his Instagram Instagram live video saying
he's probably he's probably going to be back with the
Milwaukee Bucks. All that, that probably still left the window
(13:16):
for other teams to be determined to give the Milwaukee
Bucks different trade packages. So if there is a major deal,
I think it's going to involve that. But you know,
if I had to put money and look, I took
your guys advice about how to gamble in Vegas last
week did not work. But if I had to put
money on, I don't think that there's going to be
major trades. All the major things already happened, Kevin Durant
(13:39):
gain trade as Houston, the surprise with the Milwaukee Bucks
waving and stretching, Damian Loward, and then Damian joining Portland.
I think now it's just going to be all different
kind of chalk things about where does Jonathan cominge go?
Is you come back to Golden State as their actual
team that wants to sign him after not really gaining
any offers for the first three weeks of free agency
(14:01):
and then other rotation players. But major things uh, not
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I don't think he's on Twitter at Mark G Underscore Medina.
That said, Mark g Underscore Medina. Mark is always buddy,
appreciate you popping on with us as always. Well, we'll
talk to you soon and enjoy the weekend, enjoy the
Summer League championship.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Indeed, and Jason, enjoy your vacation. I hear that it's
going to be with Mike Brown. You guys are going
to be breaking down tape till five o'clock in the morning.
Sounds like a fun time.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, here here, here's my tape. Okay, at the end
of a game, just give the ball to Brunson. There
we go.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's it, Hew of a coaching advice. Continue to invoice
James Dong.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Take it easy, buddy, have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You two guys.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Hey, Mark, there we go. Uh yeah, I mean look,
I would love to say there would be a trade,
but look, it all goes back to what we've talked
about is that if a star wants a trade in
the NBA, he's got to be a being the bad guy.
If you're not okay being the bad guy, you're not
gonna get traded. Teams are gonna hold on to you
and try to make it work, and they're not gonna
give up a star because it's so hard to replace you.
(15:10):
We've seen. If you want a trade, you can be traded,
but you have to be the bad guy. Lebron will
get traded in a second. If he says the Lakers
buy me out or trade me. Guess what Lakers would
buy him out or trade him. They would figure something
else out, even if the buyout doesn't make as much sense.
If Lebron said buy me out, the Lakers said, wait, wait, wait, wait,
how about a trade? Okay, now, a trade would happen,
(15:30):
right if Yanna says, I want to get traded. You
gotta trade me. The Bucks would trade him, but they
have to be okay being the bad guy to say this,
and so far none of them, no stars are okay
with being that bad guy. Lebron, give us back fifty
one point six million of what you're expected to get
this year and we can talk. But it would also
be that thing like we talked with Mark Stein yesterday,
(15:52):
like they're not gonna let him walk away to a contender,
right because even if you got some of that money back,
what the hell can you spend it on right now?
The confetti? Yeah, confetti in your next bobblehead. I mean,
that's it. That's all. You none a lot in the
marketplace to go get for improving. So Lebron will just
have to smile and get through his season exit out
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Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Uh. You know, we often like to
say how we're ahead of the curve here on the show,
because we are. Sometimes we're a day ahead, sometimes we're
a week ahead, sometimes we're months ahead. But I think
we have a new definition for being ahead of the curve.
Because we have an ahead of the curve heat check
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that we got, right, Mike Carmon, okay, chick heat check
ahead of the curve that we had last night. So
it was about, i'd say, a couple hours into the
show last night when the breaks that NFLPA leader Lloyd
Howell Junior was resigning from his position to position that
to Morris Smith had for so many years. And this
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wasn't surprising because about ten days ago we got the
story that the NFL and the NFL Players Association colluded
together to keep guaranteed money down from NFL contracts following
Deshaun Watson's ridiculous contract that the Browns decided, we're going
to upset everybody by doing this. They guaranteed him two
hundred and forty million dollars and that upset everybody, teams, players, everyone,
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So there is evidence because Pablo Torri, who now finds
everything out chef a podcast calling it that that'd be
a great idea, found out that, yes, their collusion existed
between the NFL the NFLPA horrible headlined wait a minute,
this is a union that showed that we are working
against the people that I'm here to represent. So that night,
we said, Lloyd Howe, when everybody else, all of the leadership,
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Treader and everybody, they all need to be replaced, to
be swept out. This is awful, right. I get that
it's a it's a bit of an inside baseball story
where we're talking about money in the NFLPA. But bottom
line is this, for anybody who's ever joined a union,
you pay dues to a union so they protect you,
not so they can be in league with the corporation
and they can wind up hurting you. So that's something
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a lot of us have gone through. So I thought, Okay,
he's gonna let let go. But no, it doesn't happen. Okay,
well let's let's see how things go. Maybe they're gonna
be doing it very quietly. And then yesterday the story
breaks that JC Treader, who also is on the leader
leadership board, according to Pablo Tory, had the story that
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he told running backs, when you come up for contract,
exaggerate an injury to give you more leverage, and contract
talks whoa, wha, wha wait, noh, so lie about an
injury to get leverage, and contracts are like whoa, whoa, whoa.
Now this is not anything in league with the NFL.
This is something will be against the NFL NFL teams.
But here's another example of leadership being in a position
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where what are you doing? Right? So that happened early yesterday,
and then about nine o'clock last night we got word
that Howell resigning as head of the NFLPA. Okay, and
then you said to me, there was this time last
night you said, boy, Jason, doesn't this feel like a
Friday night news dump story? Like this would be something
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that you know, eleven thirty on a Friday night, Hey,
I'm resigning as NFLPA head, And oh my goodness, all
this controversy and by the time we get to Monday,
it's all gone. We're on to other things. It's Friday
night news dump and this is our heat check ahead
of the curve moment. Because I said to you, well,
maybe they got to get ahead of something that's gonna
drop on Friday. And we laughed because I don't know
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anything except but sure enough, what happened today. Lloyd Howell
resigned last night because a report that comes out today
that there were documents showing he charged the union for
two visits to strip clubs, including a seven hundred and
forty dollars car service that took them from the airport
to one of the clubs. Happened in twenty twenty three.
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Happened not too long ago, where he took these receipts
and charged them to the NFLPA. That was what he
spent at Tutsi's Cabaret in Miami Gardens, a seventy six
thousand square foot venue. Billing itself adds the world's largest
strip club. Quote full nude, number one rated. That is
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your former NFLPA executive director. I'll tell you that's a
heat check ahead of the curve by carbon. Who were
you ahead of the curve? All nude taste, tastefully done,
ah medefinitely, all nude. Go back to that Timberwolves ESPN
the magazine ad all those years ago. Yeah, there's a
lot that goes on with this, the next levels of
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this right text messages between owners that are collusive in name,
in nature and nods and wings and you know that
again way to go, but really without colluding towards anything.
Just hey, you'll be happy down the line. Okay, cool,
So you got that. You got this is a great line.
This Pro Football Talk had this quote from NFLPA Lead
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Security Officer Craig Jones earlier quote, and this is about J. C.
Tredder quote. He is the progenitor of this whole tawdry
episode of posers like that. That's good a person or
thing from which a person, animal, or plant is descended
or originates. And then Ben Bolan a few hours ago,
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longtime NFL writer at Benvolan, here's the evidently the text
of a well a text that's going around. We know
Trader A bent the rules to hire Howell, be covered
up Howell's background check. There was a thing back in
twenty eleven that you know, I had to add a
bunch of tawdry stuff going on. Three had a knowledge
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of Howell's financial arrangement with the Carlisle Group. Four kept
the arbitration decision from his members. Five kept the arbitration
decision from his members that found that he blatantly violated
the CBA. So all of that, that's your leadership, right.
We go back to Demorris Smith, he wrote a book
and whatever else because some of this is on his watch,
going back to Deshaun Watson's deal and the initial reaction
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from owners, all of that. So You've got that into
this and now it's it's about seven hundred and twenty
eight dollars. Car service is the thing that brings him down,
not all of this other stuff. I mean, that's all
with the great background noise. Now it's about a car
service at a strip club. What a clown show man, I mean,
what a look. Everybody's got to get swept out. You
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gotta go out. I'm with hiring Tony Dungee. I'm with
hiring Rod Smith. He's the player that every former player
I've ever talked to says, oh yeah, if he was
commissioner of the NFL would be great. Like, you gotta
do something. All of these guys need to go right.
This is so incredibly embarrassing, not just for the players
but for the league itself, Like you have a guy
that was running things that was colluding to keep salaries down. Meanwhile,
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but I'm still gonna build a players association for my
visits to a strip club, which is car service and
the money I spent, including cash withdrawals from a club
atm and using a VIP room from a few months ago,
like this is this is where we are. Hey, I
want to make sure it's a lot of money. We
want to we got to keep that money down. What
the players getting too much money? Oh, by the way,
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you take care of the strip club stepp right, you
take care of this. Okay, I'm just gonna invoice you
for it. Like this is like I see this and
I go this is the highest level of sports, right,
this is the this is the gold standard of business
and money making. And here's where we are. We're talking
about collusion and deception. And Yeah, I'm gonna have so
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much hubris and think i am so far above repro
coach that I'm gonna put my career in jeopardy by
not just going to strip clubs, but by billing the
union for it. Like like I understand thinking, Hey, I'm
teflon and it's not gonna come back to me. But
you're a really high ranking person in the NFL payer.
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You're the highest ranking person in the NFLPA. You're very
high profile when it comes to labor negotiations. Everybody knows
who you are. The players rely on you to have
their backs on things, and you are, okay, putting that
at risk because I'm going to build the union for
visits to a strip club, like and Look, there's times
when you go out and you have business dinners and hey,
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this is a business dinner, and I'm billing the U.
I understand that. But this is this is not just
a bad object. This is car service to a strip club. Really,
that's okay, gonna have that twenty five hundred dollars Like
you're brought down because you didn't want to spend three
thousand dollars in strips to a strip club that you're
there for like eight hours, right, because the car service
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story was that he got there at ten thirty PM
and then it dropped him off at home eight hours later.
I mean, dude was there from ten to thirty until
six thirty of the more. Yeah, overnight man probably had
breakfast at the strip club. But think about all the
expenses that as the head of the PA that you're
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going through. And now Treader's no longer the president, it's
now Jalen Reeves, Maybin Kalais Campbell and orn Burke's there's
some of the leadership Cameron Hayward, Austin Eckler and others.
So they've got to try to clean up this mess.
But think about all of the expenses that you would
have had you know the quote legitimate, And this is
where you got to decide where's the line, right, where's
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the line of legitimate expenses? Because you could to talk
business for five, five, ten minutes in between the champagne
room and the wing buffet. I mean there's a lot
of business that can be transacted along the way. Hey,
they just replenished the crawd legs all of that. Should
we limit salaries? Wait a minute, new flats just came
out in the special root beer barbecue. I'll give you
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five minutes. I'll be right back. Oh okay, yeah, no,
we got we gotta put a pin in that. Do
we ever really get back to it? No, we'll just
have to reconvene the meeting because you know, my eight
hour car service is almost up for the night. But
it's the idea r Kyles would leave from. He's done.
So you've got all of these legitimate business expenses, right, flights, cars,
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entertainment and dinners, whatever office supplies and all the other
things that you need to run run your part of
the business right and billable hours you know, to other
people that you're using for advice and consultants at all.
And then you get felled by the fact that there's
a car service that is just out of sorts, which
means somebody hates you. Somebody in that business decided, you
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know what, I'm done with this guy. And now we
have to figure out who the whistleblower is in this
entire process, you know. And not only that, but just
think about this for a second. Tutsi's cabaret and I'm
looking at it on the map right now. It takes
on Google Maps. It takes up the part of a
map that normally is taken up like by a by
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a major league ballpark, right Like, that's how big is
seventy six thousand square feet? It really is. It is
like a full block, like a big city block of
strip club. Like it's like a huge apartment building with
like one hundred units. Whatever you think of the biggest
businesses in the city you live in. That's how big
this thing is. Seventy six thousand square feet. To put
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it in like a perspective, a quick Google search and
you know, I'll have to verify this, but it is
estimated that Halloween Horrnites at Universal Studios is one hundred
and ten thousand square feet. Just to put it in
pro Come on, man, no way, It's as big as
Halloween Horror. I'd like, it's as big as when I
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go from the Halloween House all the way down to
the Walking Dead House. There you go, buddy, Wait a minute.
Thousand feet so three quarters of that space is swilled
with glitter, stripper pulls and whatever else. Hang on and
you go down the longest escalator in the world. At Universal,
you have the longest escalator in the world to get
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to part of the park and it's that big. Oh
my god, I'm bringing Sexy Mac. Yeah, it's as big
as Universal Studio. Three quarters of Hollywood. Oh man, I
can imagine walking through the rooms at uh Tutsies instead
of like, oh, I'm going through the Halloween all the
dancers in all the different rooms. Oh my god, what
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did I just see? Oh my goodness, Like that's that's
just insane. And yeah, I'm going I mean the hubris
and the belief that people I just don't care and
I'm gonna do this it really you know, he's got
to look and say, huh, I threw my career away
because of three thousand dollars in a strip club. I
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threw my career away because of this, I mean, look
to put it in the rest of the real world.
I mean, this is al Capone and tax evasion instead
of everything else they tried for decades to pin on him. Wow.
I mean they at least they have a dress code
that supposedly is strictly enforced. Oh good, Yeah, it is
strictly enforced. Yes, well that's good. I mean as long
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as you know that's strictly enforced. What does that mean though,
does it have any more particulars there? I would assume,
I would. I'd assume like you'd have to dress up,
like when you go to that big party in eyes
wide shut, like and you have to wear like tuxedos
you got really too. Yeah, I mean I don't think
anything that happens at the eyes white, at least not
that you would see. But like, I think you'd have
to dress up like, yeah, like you're going to a
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real fancy party kind of if you got seventy six
thousand square feet, there's plenty of rooms for that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm thinking of like the party from pulp fiction where
the wolf and everybody they're all dressed in those fancy
tuxied at like nine o'clock in the morning, Like, dude,
how long was the party you were at that you're
dressed like this having drinks at nine o'clock in the morning.
It's a hell of a party. I still commend Harvey
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Kaitel for not only partying through the night and into
the morning, but having the wherewithal to concoct one of
the great plans to really bring the Bonnie situation to
a clean clothes while having a fantastic cup of coffee
that Jimmy brewed. We have an extremely volatile Bonnie situation.
By say, I mean this is the NFLPA. They need
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all kinds of new new leadership in here. This is
this is embarrassing on so many levels, for so many
I mean, I realize I didn't think. I just said, hey,
maybe they got a guard for what's gonna break on Friday.
I'm thinking, Okay, they just did it today because of
the other story. Nope, something worse, something worse than J. C.
Traider yesterday. No, we got it. When he if he
does press conference, do they ask him what his favorite
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song is? Truth of the rumor that Cherry Pie has
played on your request? When you go to Tutsi's do
we have that. Yeah, do Do Do Do Do Do
Do geez? But did you see they evidently have a
song that they're finishing with the original vocals from Yannie Lane.
How about that? I did not know that? Really? There
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you go sting interesting. Uh, let's get away from this
because I mean, it's it's open right now, like you
can go there because it open till six in the morning.
You know, this is Lloyd Hell. Let's find out what's
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Speaker 5 (32:35):
Scottie Scheffler leads the Open by one stroke in Northern
Ireland after a second round sixty four at seven over par,
where brooks Keptka Colin Morikov It will not be golfing
this weekend. The Patriots signed second round running back Trevion
Henderson four years fully guaranteed. The Bears gave second round
running back Luther Burden fully guaranteed deal. No second rounder
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had ever received a fully guaranteed contract until this year.
The WNBA is on All Star Weekend in Indianapolis tonight.
Sabrina 'desk, who won the three point shootout Skills Challenge
went to a New York teammate, Natasha Cloud. All Star
Game is Saturday. The Clippers officially signed Bradley Beal. In
the quarterfinals of the Women's euro Spain eliminated host Switzerland
to nothing the quarters and on Saturday on Fox TV
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with France against Germany. The Semis start on Tuesday. As
for Major League Baseball, the Dodger bats in the month
of July well, team batting average two to five, mainly
by playing the Brewers and the Astros. Milwaukee won its
eighth straight game today, beat the Dodgers again two nothing
in La Quinn Priester eight and two with ten strikeouts
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in six innings. Beat LA's Tyler Glasnow, Arizona and Colorado
with wins Seattle as well, beating Houston six to one.
Texas got a two run double bottom of the eighth
from Corey Seger and shout out Detroit to nothing. Tigers
have lost five straight. At Tampa Bay two home runs
for Junior Camanaro, he has twenty five. The Rays down
Baltimore with ease eleven to one at Atlanta seven three
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braves over the Yankees. Ozzie albi Is a homer and
four RBIs Cleveland and Cincinnati, with wins Miami in a
comeback one on a tenth inning two run homer from
Kyle Stowers eight to seven over the Royals, Stours and
All Star three hits five RBIs. Toronto defeated San Francisco
for nothing, allowing the four runs in the second inning.
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Loser Justin Verlander. He's zero to eighth this year. The
winner for the Blue Jays, Chris basst is ten and four.
The Padres scored five in the ninth off Washington closer
Kyle Finnegan, Manny Machadawa late Grand Slam seven to San
Diego wins in DC. Nationals have lost five straight. The
Angels were six five winners at Philadelphia to save to
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ken Lee Jansen. Kyle Schwarber is thirty first homer. Philadelphia
is still first in the NL East by a half
game over the Mets. The Cubs are first in the
NL Central, still one over the Brewers. Cubs ended Boston's
ten game winning streak four to one at Wrigley, and
the White Sox won ten to one at Pittsburgh. A reminder,
MLB Speedway Classic is in a couple of weeks. A
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ballgame at Bristol Motor Speedway on a Saturday night, August
second on Fox TV.
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Back to you, Hey, you will all the players be
wearing the driver outfits with all the logos on them.
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Try and steal second that way, sure.
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Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show is my best friend.
Mike Carmon Coming up next, we get back into the
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think you'll see him play again, but a play tonight
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