June 7, 2023 • 28 mins
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Steve the Seger Arnie Spaniel sitting in for the guys,
Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon right here
on five Sports Radio the bonus hour of the show.
We've been on a lot of stuff today.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
This seg.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Now, what by bonus hour you mean that Jason and
Mike don't normally do a one am Eastern hour. This
is just a bonus for you.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
But it's a bonus for me because I usually just
do three hours.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
It's in my car.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We're all privileged to have you for another hour.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's in my contract that I only have to do
three hours, not four hours.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I'll be talking contracts yes. By the way.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
With the NBA Finals coming up tomorrow nights and Game
four will be well, Miami's hosting Game three. Game four
will be in Florida also Friday night. What's Tyler Herro
going to be if he ever comes back?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
He was working, he was going through full workouts. He
said that he hasn't been cleared to come back. My
question is this, if you've been queer to go ahead
and do full workouts but not clear to come back
in the game. And he said that his hand was
a little swollen, But he also said that the reason
another reason he didn't want to come back is he
didn't want to ruin continuity. I think that's the more
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reason than his hand. I think he could come back
if he had to, or if they were down like
two nothing or two to one, then I think he
would come back, but I think he wants to stay
away for continuity right now.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
If he can shoot, they could use those ten minutes
off the bench. Even if that's all that is. This
is a guy who averaged twenty points a game this
past season. He's been a great outside shooter for them.
He was the league six man in the year the
season before. By the way, he's trying to come back
from surgery in April on a broken right hand. He
was injured in the first half of the first game
of the first round. And we've been hearing for what
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weeks plural. Now, Hey, Hero might come back soon. We thought, oh,
maybe Sunday, maybe Wednesday. It's still a no.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You know, I thought they were gonna end up trading
him at one point. I wonder if he's still gonna
go ahead and be on the market, especially because they
made this run anyway without him.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And by the way, he doesn't have much of a
sense of humor, does he.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Van Gundy made a little joke about his outfit at
his hat and he came back then, well, Ben, yeah,
Van Gundy is not a.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Very good coach. He got a little personal.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
You know what I mean, Well, talking about people's outfits
is a little personal. But yeah, no need to snap back.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I mean, he's got that floppy He was like Gilgan
from Gilgen's Island.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Van Gany talks about well, he talks about his partner
sitting next to him a lot much less the players
on the floor. He talks about what the NBA should
do for silly rules, or this is that or what so.
You know, this is in keeping with who the guy
is that ABC hired to put.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
On, you know, Van Goodie. I think it was Van
Goodie that prought up this point. And at first I
thought it was crazy, and I was thinking about it more.
He said, if we want to go ahead and help
the game of basketball, you know, look what we've done
the baseball with the pitch clock, and my goodness, yeah,
never thought we'd see that. We had a one nothing
game in Philly tonight that was two hours, seven minutes.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
He said we should get rid of free throws into
the last four minutes of each quarter.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Anything with fewer free throws. I am all in favor of.
Even the long time great Lakers announcer, the late Chick
hern once said he didn't like free throws. It stops
the game.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, he used to be remember it used to be
three to make two.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Yes, you talked about wes Unseld being in the finals
once with a bad team Washington. They currently hold the
record NBA champion with the worst records since the Bullets
as they were known in nineteen seventy eight. Wes Unseld
in the finals, and he was, you know, like a
most big man. He was like a shack or a wilt.
Not good at the foul line. You're right. They had
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a rule that was three to make two to try
and give the offense a better chance. It points on
the board and not, you know, penalize them. Hey, we're
the victims here. We got fouled. And so in a
finals game, he goes to the line for three to
make two and misses all three and then they foul
him again. Laughter that and he missed the first one again.
Oh jeez, you know all it does three to make two.
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It just adds up to more free throws and less
action in a game. More free throws is not a
good thing.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
It seems kind of drastic, but then again, so was
the pitch quad, so I guess I would have to
get used to. It wouldn't be that bad of an idea, though.
Just take the ball out of bounds to keep the
game going.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
You know, if there's a way they could work it
out where it doesn't hurt. I say again, the team
with the ball, the team that's not fouling, find a way,
because anything that's more action is good. As we've seen
with baseball, Well.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
What happens if you make the bucket and get fouled,
then you do get the foul shot. Sure, you know
what it would take away is people trying to draw
the foul by flopping all the time. They wouldn't try
to pull those sheneantigans until the last four minutes of the.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Because you wouldn't necessarily get two free points then.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Right, you just take the ball out of bound. So why,
you know, why try to slow down a fast break
by pretending that you got hit in the head or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Or have a fewer opponents in the lane to rebound
or something. It doesn't I know that wouldn't solve the
problem with fewer free throws, but giving so much of
an advantage that there's no incentive to foul.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Do you are you in first of all, are you
enjoying the NBA Finals one game apiece right now? Because
again I'm a blue blood guy you've heard playing say
this a million times before. I I don't find it intriguing.
Of course I'm watching it. I'm pulling for Denver, but
I just don't find this intriguing, even with Jokic as
great of a player as that. I love Murray, but
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I just don't find the intrigue in this one.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I was not intrigued going in as a sports fan,
and I emphasized that word fan of all sports. I
was definitely gonna watch. Some people tell you they're sports
fans and it's really like one or two sports that
they're big fans of. I'm a fan of sports. I'm
gonna watch the Women's World Cup on Fox this summer.
I'm gonna watch the Wimbledon final. I don't care who's
in the NBA Finals. I'm watching it. This is, on paper,
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a great story. Miami has won on the road seven
times in a single postseason. The league record is nine
by A Lajuan's Houston team in the mid nineties. They
shouldn't be here, and yet they keep coming back from
double digit deficits. It's amazing what's going on. I have
enjoyed the two games. I just haven't enjoyed it like
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I was in in Boston Golden State last year, for example.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Now, I want to bring up what Spolstra had to
say to Ramona Shelburne.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I don't know if you remember that.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Oh yeah, when she said, she brought up, well, a,
you're turning him into a scorer, because if Yoki just
scores forty plus points, you'll limit him on the assist,
you have a good chance to win.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
He immediately jumped in and.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Said, to the untrained eye, maybe that's what it looks like.
Well to my trained ear, and I got a trained
ear beause I've been doing radio one hundred years. Sounded
like you were taking a digging Ramona, Shepbard my friend,
and you were getting a little testy out there.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Though? No, you're not wrong about that, And she wasn't
the only person thinking of that question. It does, and
she said this as her first sentence of her question.
It does sound really simplistic, like you co jest with
one of the great players in the world, make him
a passer or make him a score and you can
dictate the game.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Why do you take offense to that?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Though, well, you realize the background, this is a guy
that's not only been a highly successful coach head coach
to this point, but his into the NBA was breaking
down film. He would know the ins and outs of
how to attack somebody like Jokic more than most.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
You're right, he was breaking out film.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
If he wasn't a coach, he'd be the thumbs up
thumbs down guy for the movies.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Probably. I mean, come on, now, not back film.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I'm saying that he's probably forgotten more basketball than I know.
I have that much respect for him, and he'll be
on Steve Kerr staff this summer for TVUSA. So the attitude, though,
come on, the attitude was unnecessary. I at least get
the background of it that it was a little too
simplistic to just have a yes or no answer to
that kind of ques.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, they are what three and four when he scores
forty career oh to four and this year oh and
three when he scores forty in this postseason, including last Sunday.
Let me ask you that simplus the question do you
just let him score forty points to that?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
No, absolutely not, because then because he's for whatever doing,
Because then you'll have to have two people score twenty.
What worked for Miami. Last game is not going to
work for them. Most games. Their leading score in the
four quarters a it was a different guy in each
of the quarters. Beat It wasn't Jimmy Butler in any
of them. How often is that gonna have? How often
is Duncan Robinson going to be your guy to come
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through or Max Strews just goes nuts in a first quarter?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Fourth quarter was fishing as all hell, the most efficient
fourth quarter ever in like the history of playoffs.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
They had nineteen possessions and got thirty six points out
of it in the fourth quarter. That is stupefying that
you could pile up points like that and they were
down again double digits. They were down fifteen before halftime
and still down almost ten to start the fourth quarter
in Miami. Start against a Denver team that had yet
to lose a home game this postseason. They were nine
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to zero at home, the league record still ten and
oher at home in a postseason but including regular season,
Denver's home mark was forty three and seven, and they
couldn't hold a double digit lead Sunday.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Have they been an underdog in every playoff game once
they started the Molwaukee series? Question every game they were
on the dog of the Milwaukee series, the Knixt series.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
There was also the sprained ankle with Jimmy Butler, remember
a little nobody giving him shot and.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, but Randall also was hurt a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I think they might have been a slight favorite and
in a couple of the games there when they were
at home, and I don't think any of the Boston
games and so far there are two point or two
point on the dog to Denver this game.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
And if they're being disrespected, I think it's appropriate in
the sense that they earned the number eight seed this year.
They were outscored for the season. Their point differential was
minus twenty six for the whole season. The Heat are
the first team since nineteen fifty nine to make the
NBA Finals after being outscored in a season. And here
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they've fallen behind by double digits in the playoffs thirteen times,
but about half the time they come back to win
the game.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Anyway, I think Jokic is one get disrespected, you know,
especially for a guy his stature, the back to back
MVPs and probably should have wanted this year. This guy
he really does and I know he cries a lot.
He didn't get a lot of calls, at least didn't
get a lot of calls, and those three in game
number two, he was counting them.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Until the reugh Maybe he needed to play with Duke
first and then come in the NBA and he would
get the calls. But there was a stretch in this
postseason where Jokic became the first player since the Wilt
Days to have triple doubles in four straight playoff games.
Now it's up to a record nine total in this postseason.
He is crazy good.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Oh, absolutely crazy good. Matter of fact, you could see
on his face when he was leaving the game. He
was so aggravated.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
He scored forty and lose it home and blow a fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
A long walk to the locker room, it was like
the camera was following them.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
It was like walking down the hallway they were.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
They should put the signs for the Nuggets players altitude,
don't worry.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
It was like they were walking through a restaurant that
they had to go to make a turd. The parking suad, Oh,
where are the place?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Maybe there are no showers. Maybe he was walking home.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It was it was like the covers were followed him.
I'm like man, it's like a three hour walk.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
It wouldn't have been wrapping up the series if they'd
won that, and they should have won, they should have
gone up two games to none, but it would have
been close to wrapping it up because in Nuggets history,
for example, every time, not just this year, every time
they've been up two games to none in a series,
they've always won that series, including every round this postseason.
Until Sunday's loss.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
People started to push back on the Jimmy Butler being
a superstar thing a little bit.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Now, yeah, that's the whole some subpar games, the well
you see this in NBA as much as anything, right,
it's what just happened? Is now the greatest thing ever?
Or what that guy just did? Is you know it
was Butler now as Kawhi before And can we just
have great moments and these are all star players? No,
it has to. Everybody has to be immediately put into
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a historic context. Nobody was talking about Jokic like this
in I would say, the first week of April, and
now suddenly he's unquestionably the best player on the planet. Well,
then why didn't you vote for him? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Jackson just didn't even put him on the Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
That's a separate thing. Oh, I thought we weren't going
to have like a first team center and second. No,
this is the envy p time vot everybody is eligible.
This is what are you talking about.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Especially because he's voted before. That's what I'm asking what
he's talking about.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You know, I don't know. There's the modernist. You know,
it's like the Heisman vote. So many people. It's what
eight hundred, nine hundred people get to vote for the
Heisman Trophy in college football. Now, yeah, I've heard that.
All you have to do is listen to a Saturday
show during college football season you may come across that fact.
There is by the way, it was for years by
mail voting for the Heisman, and some people would literally
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fill out their ballot and mail it in October, long
before the season was even close to finished. I mean
there even more recent days. You remember when man Titeo
for Notre Dame was a runner up for the Heisman.
His last month was the most pedestrian month. He was
outdone in tackles by fifty different linebackers in the country,
and he still got invited as a Heisman finalist. A
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because he's Notre Dame, and B because too many voters
made up their mind. Now, the problem is with modernization,
some voters are not getting how the game works. And
I'm talking about their job as a voter. It's a
stunic How does a person even have the vote if
they don't know how to vote.
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Speaker 3 (14:45):
All Right, good evening, everyone, Steve the segar Arnie Spanier's
sitting in for the guys Jason Smith at his best friend,
Mike Carmony.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Steve right here in the bonus hour of the show.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I'm going to get back to the golf at just
the second, Steve, I just want to say this last
hour didn't pay off the tees. I said, the Jets
did what And I was actually just going to bring
up how they fit.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
You New Yorker not a Jets fan can't understand that. Still,
but go ahead, Jason. The Jets fans not here, so
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
They sent everybody home a week early from OTAs. I'm like, oh,
that's great because they know everything they need to do.
It's not like they have a new quarterback. And they've
been a history of winning and I was going to
get into that, but until I saw this story. And
I've always seen one place do this, so I hope
this is not a bogus website. They have two million followers,
(15:31):
so I got to assume this is more than you. Yeah,
more than me. Did you see the new Aaron Rodgers
Sauce Gardner handshake?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
No, because this week they are holding practices. Yes, okay,
he was on the field today. In fact, it's just
what you mentioned. The Jets are not going to hold
mini camps NETWEK next week. The reason they're starting training
camp earlier. There be in the Hall of Fame exhibition
in early August.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I don't think the Commissioner's going to like this. And
I could see sports talk just burning up talking about this.
They are doing the weed smoking handshake at Jets practice.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
You know what I'm talking about there? The seger I do.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
This was in the New York Post.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yes, that's gonna be their new handshake. I don't know
is the commissioner gonna frown on upon that or what?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yes, this is not legal in all the states that
have the NFL. Of course he should be.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
That's so funny.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
What do you think sports talk guys are gonna say
about that?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I mean, really, come on, Rogers.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I mean, every year it's like I went someplace in
the darkness and took that what is that hyahuasca thing
or whatever it was.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
We than guys try it out make me more dangerous.
You know, while we're on the NFL, did you see
the quote from the Saints coach Dennis Allen. I hope
my team is not selected to be on Hard Knocks
this year.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be the Jets. There's one
of four teams out are eligible. I think it's gonna
be the Jets, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Jets or New Orleans? Washington and Chicago are also eligible.
The Saints coach doesn't on the distraction, but only those
four NFL teams could be forced to participate in this
year's documentary. Usually, I think they've named the team by now,
and then all the cameras will be in place when
people start reporting to the real training camp this summer.
But the league requires a team to say yes to
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being on the show. If that team does not have
a first year coach, has not been to the playoffs
in the last two years and hasn't done hard knocks
in the last decade. So the way you get out
of it is be a good team or you're literally
just starting over. The Saints aren't one of those teams.
The Jets too. The Jets would seem obvious in New York,
but Aaron Rodgers, I mean, all of this is new,
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and you've got the Hall of Fame game, so you've
got actual action and earlier camp and how is that
not already settled?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Oh, I'd be all in for hard knocks this year
for was the New York chats. I mean, I have
to see what Aaron Rodgers does in practice, and I
mean stuff we didn't get to see in Green Bay.
I want to see the behind the scenes stuff with
this guy, you.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Know, because if it's the Bears, I mean, I guess
you've got some storylines of.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
The quarterbacks still there and this guy doesn't like treat it.
You know, the rookie wide receivers he had up in
Green Bay and treat very well. I want to see
how he treats the wide receivers unless he's gonna change
because the cameras are there, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Oh, certainly that could happen. Absolutely, that could happen because
it's not a twenty four hour example of what goes on.
It's an edited version into run an hour episode and
there are only I think it's four episodes. Isn't that
correct by the time they start airing near August.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
By the way, if you look at their first six games,
I got them going one in five.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Oh yeah, it is murderous. Absolutely it is.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And a lot of primetime games with not only Rogers
but their schedule.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh, it is just a killer out there. I'm pulling
it up right now. They open up against the Bills,
then at the Cowboys, then the Patriots, then the Chiefs,
then at Denver and then the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Well there you go.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Forget about it.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
There's a game too, by the way, there's a Jets
what just just Giants?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, I don't know when that one is that what
they play?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
It's like midseason. Yeah, they always played in the preseason
all No, I think it's their turn for that division
though I think that it is. Well, we mentioned before
a golden headphones running the show here is going to
be at a Jets game because his Chargers play the
Jets on the road.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, that's the game after the Eagles, So there'll be
one in five heading into the Giants game. The Jets
will be one and five.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
This is your prediction in advance. Well, now I know
Jason isn't co hosting this show.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
And by the way, Dalvin Cook, there it is Jets
Giants after the bye week mid season.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Former I want to say former Minnesota Viking, but soon
to be.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, I guess three teams are in the front running
for him. The Dallas Cowboys, the Jets, and the Miami Dolphins.
So those are the three. If the Dolphins got them,
you might as well just pen us into the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Now that that's not a game.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Not again, you say this about every signing, every team.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
This is right.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Don't they play the games?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
He's only twenty seven. Don't have to even play the games.
Just give the trophy to the Dolphins with the tout
they have. So we'll see there.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
But like most running backs that are getting closer and
closer to age thirty, he's not quite the running back
he was two and three years ago.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Well, he's only twenty seven. I'll tell you this though,
if they don't get him, I wouldn't mind it signing
Azeko Elliott still out there. Yeah, if it's going to
be like a one year, one million dollar contract or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
You know, by the way, three years ago Dalvin Cook
averaged well over one hundred yards a game. It was
down under ninety. The next year it was under seventy
yards a game rushing.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Last well, he was spitting a little bit of time
with who Madison is.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
He was gonna get the carries now and he's cheaper.
At least Cook played every game last year. I'm not
saying by any stretch that his career is over, but
you know how the running back has been devalued and
in a salary cap league, this is just to me
and obvious, Oh, we're getting rid of this guy off
the roster, and that's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I've been hearing he wanted to go to Miami, but
I guess the Jets and the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Are we He is from Miami. I know he went
to Florida State, but he grew up in Miami.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
What a what a trio that would be down there
for Tua to have some weapons unbelievab Tua can.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Throw the deep ball still. I mean, despite all the
injuries and the in and out of the lineup, the
deep ball is there.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
You know, he was out of quarterbacks with third down conversions,
third out efficiency, Tua was second. Really yeah, which a
lot of people don't understand. His statistics were through the
roof before he started getting all those concussions.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
So, speaking of injured quarterbacks, the Niners are saying quarterback
Brock Perdy, who suddenly is just a starter, that we
don't doubt that he's still on schedule after the elbow
surgery in March, hurt in the postseason game. It is
amazing to me that, Yes, of course it was a
surprising story how reliable he turned out to be for them.
But people are asking, like, oh, you can just write
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his name in for the next eight years. Really, let's
hold off on that. People. Nick Bosa, superstar defensive end
for the forty nine Ers, said today he's confident he'll
have a new contract when camp starts. He is entering
the final year of his rookie deal and from the Raiders,
quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo expected to be ready for camp. According
to NFL Network he had that offseason foot surgery.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I believe that would I see it if brock Party
is going to be healthy and ready to go on time?
And I said this with Plank. I've argued with Plank
to were blue in the face about this. I think
the forty nine ers are going to trade Trey Lance.
I think he's as good as gone.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
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Speaker 5 (22:37):
Yeah, that's another guy that hasn't played much. Do you
actually know for sure what you have about both of
those guys?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Now you are he hasn't played like since swept two
years ago or something.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Well, of course remember that COVID season where they had
one TV game in college for Trey Lance and then yeah,
and then an injury. Of course, he had the finger injury,
and then it's just I would like to see him
for a full seat. I would like to see brock
Party for a full season, but start before we start
crowning guys.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I would love to see Top Brady. Too bad, he's
not going to come out of retirement house the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
That horse has left the barn I wanted that so
bad to be back on. He'll be on Fox in
a year, not this year. USFL will be on Fox
TV this Saturday and Sunday. By the way, they're not
yet to the playoffs. Horse racing on Fox TV with
the Belmont Stakes this Saturday. That's a Fox property.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Now.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
The early races this coming weekend are going to be
on FS one, and this Sunday is the last NASCAR
race of the year on Fox. Fox TV will have
the road Course race from Sonoma Sunday three thirty pm Eastern.
Saturday Night's Infinity Race will be on FS one.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I'm gonna have to get a bet on that one
for crying out loud, geez. The NASCAR or the Belmont,
the Belmont OTV right go off track betting.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Or that you know. In California when it was up
for sports gambling, and there were two propositions this past
year that each failed on the same night. One of
the options was to use the existing race tracks like
Santa Anita and have them be the locations where you
go to place wagers on other sports. Right, in other words,
the team sports betting that doesn't exist in the state
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of California if that had passed, would have existed with
one of the propositions saying, Okay, don't make it online,
don't make it easy for people go nuts and get
into trouble. How about you physically make people go Well,
the horse racing track would have been one of the
options for that. I'm sure horse racing would have said
yes to that, right, because their attendance is down in
the dumps?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Can they put them in sports They're going to put
them in sports bars here and stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Like that in your state. You're talking about what we just.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Got a pass that they're going to put like kiosks
and in sports bars and have people bet there.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
What bothers me is a sports fan, is that we're
getting it into the actual arena. And this is not
necessarily any one in Cincinnati, right, Yeah, and well, I
remember when even the Portland Trailblazers ages Ago built their
new arena, they made sure to wire it for getting
some sort of electronics at your seat in the expensive
seat because they were thinking way ahead. And now, as
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you mentioned, they're thinking way ahead because we know we're
going in one direction with sports gambling, and it's not backwards.
What as a sports fan. I don't want to see
is the day that the gambling aspect becomes more important
than the game itself. And that's why I don't want
the majority of the fans one day to cheer or
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boo based on Oh I bet that it was going
to be a strike.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
They do it on fantasy football as it is now,
when you're cheering against.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
That's not huge numbers. If you go to an NFL game,
people are locked in and passionate about the actual game
in front of them.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
You think that are listening to our show sports fans
And I asked Torres this last night, gamble on sports, like,
give you a percentage?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Oh, it's considerable. I don't think it's Also, I don't
think it's overheaf. Oh yes, I think that Like fantasy sports,
the people who do it talk about it a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
No, I'm talking about just gambling in general, like placing
a bet on a game or something like that.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Right, you're talking regularly, right, This is not like I
happen to be in Vegas on vacation therefore gambling. Yeah No, No,
I'm talking about people who literally every week.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's like seventy five percent of
people do it every week to go out.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, I think that number is high.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Really, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
I'm not saying that it doesn't deserve to be talked about.
It's part of the blood stream of sports now. I'm
just saying that it's kind of like the TV ratings.
It's a hundred million people watch the super Bowl, but
that means that two hundred million did.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Not right, right the guy from the Colt store. Is
that going to be a problem going on future now
with the gambling or.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I'm glad they're cracking down on it, because again, this
isn't primarily a gambling story. It's a stupidity story, the rules,
who been there, It's not a mystery story.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
What it is is I'm trying to get one over
on you because he put the account in somebody else's.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Name, this case the Colts case yet, right.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And he just made a wager when he was at
the facility. That's how they nailed him, right, Yeah, and
so it got them.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
It's good that all shorts leagues are keeping an eye
on all of this. It's just like when Bernie was
on live from Vegas on this show tonight, about how
regulated things are. And that's great for everybody. I mean
literally everybody. It's good for me as a fan because
I need a legitimate game that i'm watching. It's good
for the people that are offering the gambling. It's, believe me,
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good for everybody that people are keeping an eye on.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I'll give you my one gambling story real quick before
we get the trending. I made a bet. I was
up in Tahoe and it was during you know, all
the Bowl seasons. People are betting the Bowl games like crazy,
and I decided to bet the Rangers Islanders over hockey game. Okay,
and yeah, I'm the only one that made the bet,
and I go outside. I'm looking at the thing and
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it said Islanders Pittsburgh or something like that, and I
knew the Islanders were playing the Rangers. I was about
to go back in and I see the guy who
sold me the ticket out of the parking lot. I go, dude,
you got the wrong teams and he looks to me
like I'm a moron. I said, hey, dude, gad you
got the wrong time.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Maybe you get those looks naturally.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yes, exactly, And he looks at my ticket. He goes
like he turned white as it goes. Oh, he's like,
oh my god. He goes, he takes a formal ticket.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Was incorrect.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, so so he runs me back in. He holds
out of my ticket. He goes, hold on to this ticket.
If it wins, I'll pay it. If it loses, I'll
refund your ticket.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
WHOA, Yeah, how about that as downding, because I do
know the rules are like baseball, if the picture before
the game gets injured and.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
If you bet pictures though, if you just bet action
then you know, doesn't make it different who the picture is.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, well, if you bet like a regular this team
with this picture against that, yes, if it's stated and
something changes, then you have to start over.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Absolutely, absolutely
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We've been on a lot of stuff today.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
This seg.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Now, what by bonus hour you mean that Jason and
Mike don't normally do a one am Eastern hour. This
is just a bonus for you.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
But it's a bonus for me because I usually just
do three hours.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
It's in my car.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We're all privileged to have you for another hour.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's in my contract that I only have to do
three hours, not four hours.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I'll be talking contracts yes. By the way.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
With the NBA Finals coming up tomorrow nights and Game
four will be well, Miami's hosting Game three. Game four
will be in Florida also Friday night. What's Tyler Herro
going to be if he ever comes back?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
He was working, he was going through full workouts. He
said that he hasn't been cleared to come back. My
question is this, if you've been queer to go ahead
and do full workouts but not clear to come back
in the game. And he said that his hand was
a little swollen, But he also said that the reason
another reason he didn't want to come back is he
didn't want to ruin continuity. I think that's the more
(02:01):
reason than his hand. I think he could come back
if he had to, or if they were down like
two nothing or two to one, then I think he
would come back, but I think he wants to stay
away for continuity right now.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
If he can shoot, they could use those ten minutes
off the bench. Even if that's all that is. This
is a guy who averaged twenty points a game this
past season. He's been a great outside shooter for them.
He was the league six man in the year the
season before. By the way, he's trying to come back
from surgery in April on a broken right hand. He
was injured in the first half of the first game
of the first round. And we've been hearing for what
(02:35):
weeks plural. Now, Hey, Hero might come back soon. We thought, oh,
maybe Sunday, maybe Wednesday. It's still a no.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You know, I thought they were gonna end up trading
him at one point. I wonder if he's still gonna
go ahead and be on the market, especially because they
made this run anyway without him.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And by the way, he doesn't have much of a
sense of humor, does he.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Van Gundy made a little joke about his outfit at
his hat and he came back then, well, Ben, yeah,
Van Gundy is not a.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Very good coach. He got a little personal.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
You know what I mean, Well, talking about people's outfits
is a little personal. But yeah, no need to snap back.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I mean, he's got that floppy He was like Gilgan
from Gilgen's Island.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Van Gany talks about well, he talks about his partner
sitting next to him a lot much less the players
on the floor. He talks about what the NBA should
do for silly rules, or this is that or what so.
You know, this is in keeping with who the guy
is that ABC hired to put.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
On, you know, Van Goodie. I think it was Van
Goodie that prought up this point. And at first I
thought it was crazy, and I was thinking about it more.
He said, if we want to go ahead and help
the game of basketball, you know, look what we've done
the baseball with the pitch clock, and my goodness, yeah,
never thought we'd see that. We had a one nothing
game in Philly tonight that was two hours, seven minutes.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
He said we should get rid of free throws into
the last four minutes of each quarter.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Anything with fewer free throws. I am all in favor of.
Even the long time great Lakers announcer, the late Chick
hern once said he didn't like free throws. It stops
the game.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, he used to be remember it used to be
three to make two.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Yes, you talked about wes Unseld being in the finals
once with a bad team Washington. They currently hold the
record NBA champion with the worst records since the Bullets
as they were known in nineteen seventy eight. Wes Unseld
in the finals, and he was, you know, like a
most big man. He was like a shack or a wilt.
Not good at the foul line. You're right. They had
(04:28):
a rule that was three to make two to try
and give the offense a better chance. It points on
the board and not, you know, penalize them. Hey, we're
the victims here. We got fouled. And so in a
finals game, he goes to the line for three to
make two and misses all three and then they foul
him again. Laughter that and he missed the first one again.
Oh jeez, you know all it does three to make two.
(04:50):
It just adds up to more free throws and less
action in a game. More free throws is not a
good thing.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
It seems kind of drastic, but then again, so was
the pitch quad, so I guess I would have to
get used to. It wouldn't be that bad of an idea, though.
Just take the ball out of bounds to keep the
game going.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
You know, if there's a way they could work it
out where it doesn't hurt. I say again, the team
with the ball, the team that's not fouling, find a way,
because anything that's more action is good. As we've seen
with baseball, Well.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
What happens if you make the bucket and get fouled,
then you do get the foul shot. Sure, you know
what it would take away is people trying to draw
the foul by flopping all the time. They wouldn't try
to pull those sheneantigans until the last four minutes of the.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Because you wouldn't necessarily get two free points then.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Right, you just take the ball out of bound. So why,
you know, why try to slow down a fast break
by pretending that you got hit in the head or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Or have a fewer opponents in the lane to rebound
or something. It doesn't I know that wouldn't solve the
problem with fewer free throws, but giving so much of
an advantage that there's no incentive to foul.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Do you are you in first of all, are you
enjoying the NBA Finals one game apiece right now? Because
again I'm a blue blood guy you've heard playing say
this a million times before. I I don't find it intriguing.
Of course I'm watching it. I'm pulling for Denver, but
I just don't find this intriguing, even with Jokic as
great of a player as that. I love Murray, but
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I just don't find the intrigue in this one.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I was not intrigued going in as a sports fan,
and I emphasized that word fan of all sports. I
was definitely gonna watch. Some people tell you they're sports
fans and it's really like one or two sports that
they're big fans of. I'm a fan of sports. I'm
gonna watch the Women's World Cup on Fox this summer.
I'm gonna watch the Wimbledon final. I don't care who's
in the NBA Finals. I'm watching it. This is, on paper,
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a great story. Miami has won on the road seven
times in a single postseason. The league record is nine
by A Lajuan's Houston team in the mid nineties. They
shouldn't be here, and yet they keep coming back from
double digit deficits. It's amazing what's going on. I have
enjoyed the two games. I just haven't enjoyed it like
(06:58):
I was in in Boston Golden State last year, for example.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Now, I want to bring up what Spolstra had to
say to Ramona Shelburne.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I don't know if you remember that.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Oh yeah, when she said, she brought up, well, a,
you're turning him into a scorer, because if Yoki just
scores forty plus points, you'll limit him on the assist,
you have a good chance to win.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
He immediately jumped in and.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Said, to the untrained eye, maybe that's what it looks like.
Well to my trained ear, and I got a trained
ear beause I've been doing radio one hundred years. Sounded
like you were taking a digging Ramona, Shepbard my friend,
and you were getting a little testy out there.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Though? No, you're not wrong about that, And she wasn't
the only person thinking of that question. It does, and
she said this as her first sentence of her question.
It does sound really simplistic, like you co jest with
one of the great players in the world, make him
a passer or make him a score and you can
dictate the game.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Why do you take offense to that?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Though, well, you realize the background, this is a guy
that's not only been a highly successful coach head coach
to this point, but his into the NBA was breaking
down film. He would know the ins and outs of
how to attack somebody like Jokic more than most.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
You're right, he was breaking out film.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
If he wasn't a coach, he'd be the thumbs up
thumbs down guy for the movies.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Probably. I mean, come on, now, not back film.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I'm saying that he's probably forgotten more basketball than I know.
I have that much respect for him, and he'll be
on Steve Kerr staff this summer for TVUSA. So the attitude, though,
come on, the attitude was unnecessary. I at least get
the background of it that it was a little too
simplistic to just have a yes or no answer to
that kind of ques.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, they are what three and four when he scores
forty career oh to four and this year oh and
three when he scores forty in this postseason, including last Sunday.
Let me ask you that simplus the question do you
just let him score forty points to that?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
No, absolutely not, because then because he's for whatever doing,
Because then you'll have to have two people score twenty.
What worked for Miami. Last game is not going to
work for them. Most games. Their leading score in the
four quarters a it was a different guy in each
of the quarters. Beat It wasn't Jimmy Butler in any
of them. How often is that gonna have? How often
is Duncan Robinson going to be your guy to come
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through or Max Strews just goes nuts in a first quarter?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Fourth quarter was fishing as all hell, the most efficient
fourth quarter ever in like the history of playoffs.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
They had nineteen possessions and got thirty six points out
of it in the fourth quarter. That is stupefying that
you could pile up points like that and they were
down again double digits. They were down fifteen before halftime
and still down almost ten to start the fourth quarter
in Miami. Start against a Denver team that had yet
to lose a home game this postseason. They were nine
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to zero at home, the league record still ten and
oher at home in a postseason but including regular season,
Denver's home mark was forty three and seven, and they
couldn't hold a double digit lead Sunday.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Have they been an underdog in every playoff game once
they started the Molwaukee series? Question every game they were
on the dog of the Milwaukee series, the Knixt series.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
There was also the sprained ankle with Jimmy Butler, remember
a little nobody giving him shot and.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, but Randall also was hurt a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I think they might have been a slight favorite and
in a couple of the games there when they were
at home, and I don't think any of the Boston
games and so far there are two point or two
point on the dog to Denver this game.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
And if they're being disrespected, I think it's appropriate in
the sense that they earned the number eight seed this year.
They were outscored for the season. Their point differential was
minus twenty six for the whole season. The Heat are
the first team since nineteen fifty nine to make the
NBA Finals after being outscored in a season. And here
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they've fallen behind by double digits in the playoffs thirteen times,
but about half the time they come back to win
the game.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Anyway, I think Jokic is one get disrespected, you know,
especially for a guy his stature, the back to back
MVPs and probably should have wanted this year. This guy
he really does and I know he cries a lot.
He didn't get a lot of calls, at least didn't
get a lot of calls, and those three in game
number two, he was counting them.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Until the reugh Maybe he needed to play with Duke
first and then come in the NBA and he would
get the calls. But there was a stretch in this
postseason where Jokic became the first player since the Wilt
Days to have triple doubles in four straight playoff games.
Now it's up to a record nine total in this postseason.
He is crazy good.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Oh, absolutely crazy good. Matter of fact, you could see
on his face when he was leaving the game. He
was so aggravated.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
He scored forty and lose it home and blow a fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
A long walk to the locker room, it was like
the camera was following them.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
It was like walking down the hallway they were.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
They should put the signs for the Nuggets players altitude,
don't worry.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
It was like they were walking through a restaurant that
they had to go to make a turd. The parking suad, Oh,
where are the place?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Maybe there are no showers. Maybe he was walking home.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It was it was like the covers were followed him.
I'm like man, it's like a three hour walk.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
It wouldn't have been wrapping up the series if they'd
won that, and they should have won, they should have
gone up two games to none, but it would have
been close to wrapping it up because in Nuggets history,
for example, every time, not just this year, every time
they've been up two games to none in a series,
they've always won that series, including every round this postseason.
Until Sunday's loss.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
People started to push back on the Jimmy Butler being
a superstar thing a little bit.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Now, yeah, that's the whole some subpar games, the well
you see this in NBA as much as anything, right,
it's what just happened? Is now the greatest thing ever?
Or what that guy just did? Is you know it
was Butler now as Kawhi before And can we just
have great moments and these are all star players? No,
it has to. Everybody has to be immediately put into
(12:57):
a historic context. Nobody was talking about Jokic like this
in I would say, the first week of April, and
now suddenly he's unquestionably the best player on the planet. Well,
then why didn't you vote for him? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Jackson just didn't even put him on the Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
That's a separate thing. Oh, I thought we weren't going
to have like a first team center and second. No,
this is the envy p time vot everybody is eligible.
This is what are you talking about.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Especially because he's voted before. That's what I'm asking what
he's talking about.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You know, I don't know. There's the modernist. You know,
it's like the Heisman vote. So many people. It's what
eight hundred, nine hundred people get to vote for the
Heisman Trophy in college football. Now, yeah, I've heard that.
All you have to do is listen to a Saturday
show during college football season you may come across that fact.
There is by the way, it was for years by
mail voting for the Heisman, and some people would literally
(13:54):
fill out their ballot and mail it in October, long
before the season was even close to finished. I mean
there even more recent days. You remember when man Titeo
for Notre Dame was a runner up for the Heisman.
His last month was the most pedestrian month. He was
outdone in tackles by fifty different linebackers in the country,
and he still got invited as a Heisman finalist. A
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because he's Notre Dame, and B because too many voters
made up their mind. Now, the problem is with modernization,
some voters are not getting how the game works. And
I'm talking about their job as a voter. It's a
stunic How does a person even have the vote if
they don't know how to vote.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
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Speaker 3 (14:45):
All Right, good evening, everyone, Steve the segar Arnie Spanier's
sitting in for the guys Jason Smith at his best friend,
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Speaker 4 (14:51):
Steve right here in the bonus hour of the show.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I'm going to get back to the golf at just
the second, Steve, I just want to say this last
hour didn't pay off the tees. I said, the Jets
did what And I was actually just going to bring
up how they fit.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
You New Yorker not a Jets fan can't understand that. Still,
but go ahead, Jason. The Jets fans not here, so
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
They sent everybody home a week early from OTAs. I'm like, oh,
that's great because they know everything they need to do.
It's not like they have a new quarterback. And they've
been a history of winning and I was going to
get into that, but until I saw this story. And
I've always seen one place do this, so I hope
this is not a bogus website. They have two million followers,
(15:31):
so I got to assume this is more than you. Yeah,
more than me. Did you see the new Aaron Rodgers
Sauce Gardner handshake?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
No, because this week they are holding practices. Yes, okay,
he was on the field today. In fact, it's just
what you mentioned. The Jets are not going to hold
mini camps NETWEK next week. The reason they're starting training
camp earlier. There be in the Hall of Fame exhibition
in early August.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I don't think the Commissioner's going to like this. And
I could see sports talk just burning up talking about this.
They are doing the weed smoking handshake at Jets practice.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
You know what I'm talking about there? The seger I do.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
This was in the New York Post.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yes, that's gonna be their new handshake. I don't know
is the commissioner gonna frown on upon that or what?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yes, this is not legal in all the states that
have the NFL. Of course he should be.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
That's so funny.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
What do you think sports talk guys are gonna say
about that?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I mean, really, come on, Rogers.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I mean, every year it's like I went someplace in
the darkness and took that what is that hyahuasca thing
or whatever it was.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
We than guys try it out make me more dangerous.
You know, while we're on the NFL, did you see
the quote from the Saints coach Dennis Allen. I hope
my team is not selected to be on Hard Knocks
this year.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be the Jets. There's one
of four teams out are eligible. I think it's gonna
be the Jets, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Jets or New Orleans? Washington and Chicago are also eligible.
The Saints coach doesn't on the distraction, but only those
four NFL teams could be forced to participate in this
year's documentary. Usually, I think they've named the team by now,
and then all the cameras will be in place when
people start reporting to the real training camp this summer.
But the league requires a team to say yes to
(17:17):
being on the show. If that team does not have
a first year coach, has not been to the playoffs
in the last two years and hasn't done hard knocks
in the last decade. So the way you get out
of it is be a good team or you're literally
just starting over. The Saints aren't one of those teams.
The Jets too. The Jets would seem obvious in New York,
but Aaron Rodgers, I mean, all of this is new,
(17:38):
and you've got the Hall of Fame game, so you've
got actual action and earlier camp and how is that
not already settled?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Oh, I'd be all in for hard knocks this year
for was the New York chats. I mean, I have
to see what Aaron Rodgers does in practice, and I
mean stuff we didn't get to see in Green Bay.
I want to see the behind the scenes stuff with
this guy, you.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Know, because if it's the Bears, I mean, I guess
you've got some storylines of.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
The quarterbacks still there and this guy doesn't like treat it.
You know, the rookie wide receivers he had up in
Green Bay and treat very well. I want to see
how he treats the wide receivers unless he's gonna change
because the cameras are there, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Oh, certainly that could happen. Absolutely, that could happen because
it's not a twenty four hour example of what goes on.
It's an edited version into run an hour episode and
there are only I think it's four episodes. Isn't that
correct by the time they start airing near August.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
By the way, if you look at their first six games,
I got them going one in five.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Oh yeah, it is murderous. Absolutely it is.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And a lot of primetime games with not only Rogers
but their schedule.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh, it is just a killer out there. I'm pulling
it up right now. They open up against the Bills,
then at the Cowboys, then the Patriots, then the Chiefs,
then at Denver and then the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Well there you go.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Forget about it.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
There's a game too, by the way, there's a Jets
what just just Giants?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, I don't know when that one is that what
they play?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
It's like midseason. Yeah, they always played in the preseason
all No, I think it's their turn for that division
though I think that it is. Well, we mentioned before
a golden headphones running the show here is going to
be at a Jets game because his Chargers play the
Jets on the road.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, that's the game after the Eagles, So there'll be
one in five heading into the Giants game. The Jets
will be one and five.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
This is your prediction in advance. Well, now I know
Jason isn't co hosting this show.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
And by the way, Dalvin Cook, there it is Jets
Giants after the bye week mid season.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Former I want to say former Minnesota Viking, but soon
to be.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, I guess three teams are in the front running
for him. The Dallas Cowboys, the Jets, and the Miami Dolphins.
So those are the three. If the Dolphins got them,
you might as well just pen us into the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Now that that's not a game.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Not again, you say this about every signing, every team.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
This is right.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Don't they play the games?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
He's only twenty seven. Don't have to even play the games.
Just give the trophy to the Dolphins with the tout
they have. So we'll see there.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
But like most running backs that are getting closer and
closer to age thirty, he's not quite the running back
he was two and three years ago.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Well, he's only twenty seven. I'll tell you this though,
if they don't get him, I wouldn't mind it signing
Azeko Elliott still out there. Yeah, if it's going to
be like a one year, one million dollar contract or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
You know, by the way, three years ago Dalvin Cook
averaged well over one hundred yards a game. It was
down under ninety. The next year it was under seventy
yards a game rushing.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Last well, he was spitting a little bit of time
with who Madison is.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
He was gonna get the carries now and he's cheaper.
At least Cook played every game last year. I'm not
saying by any stretch that his career is over, but
you know how the running back has been devalued and
in a salary cap league, this is just to me
and obvious, Oh, we're getting rid of this guy off
the roster, and that's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I've been hearing he wanted to go to Miami, but
I guess the Jets and the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Are we He is from Miami. I know he went
to Florida State, but he grew up in Miami.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
What a what a trio that would be down there
for Tua to have some weapons unbelievab Tua can.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Throw the deep ball still. I mean, despite all the
injuries and the in and out of the lineup, the
deep ball is there.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
You know, he was out of quarterbacks with third down conversions,
third out efficiency, Tua was second. Really yeah, which a
lot of people don't understand. His statistics were through the
roof before he started getting all those concussions.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
So, speaking of injured quarterbacks, the Niners are saying quarterback
Brock Perdy, who suddenly is just a starter, that we
don't doubt that he's still on schedule after the elbow
surgery in March, hurt in the postseason game. It is
amazing to me that, Yes, of course it was a
surprising story how reliable he turned out to be for them.
But people are asking, like, oh, you can just write
(21:55):
his name in for the next eight years. Really, let's
hold off on that. People. Nick Bosa, superstar defensive end
for the forty nine Ers, said today he's confident he'll
have a new contract when camp starts. He is entering
the final year of his rookie deal and from the Raiders,
quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo expected to be ready for camp. According
to NFL Network he had that offseason foot surgery.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I believe that would I see it if brock Party
is going to be healthy and ready to go on time?
And I said this with Plank. I've argued with Plank
to were blue in the face about this. I think
the forty nine ers are going to trade Trey Lance.
I think he's as good as gone.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
You know, be sure to catch live editions of The
Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Yeah, that's another guy that hasn't played much. Do you
actually know for sure what you have about both of
those guys?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Now you are he hasn't played like since swept two
years ago or something.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Well, of course remember that COVID season where they had
one TV game in college for Trey Lance and then yeah,
and then an injury. Of course, he had the finger injury,
and then it's just I would like to see him
for a full seat. I would like to see brock
Party for a full season, but start before we start
crowning guys.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I would love to see Top Brady. Too bad, he's
not going to come out of retirement house the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
That horse has left the barn I wanted that so
bad to be back on. He'll be on Fox in
a year, not this year. USFL will be on Fox
TV this Saturday and Sunday. By the way, they're not
yet to the playoffs. Horse racing on Fox TV with
the Belmont Stakes this Saturday. That's a Fox property.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Now.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
The early races this coming weekend are going to be
on FS one, and this Sunday is the last NASCAR
race of the year on Fox. Fox TV will have
the road Course race from Sonoma Sunday three thirty pm Eastern.
Saturday Night's Infinity Race will be on FS one.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I'm gonna have to get a bet on that one
for crying out loud, geez. The NASCAR or the Belmont,
the Belmont OTV right go off track betting.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Or that you know. In California when it was up
for sports gambling, and there were two propositions this past
year that each failed on the same night. One of
the options was to use the existing race tracks like
Santa Anita and have them be the locations where you
go to place wagers on other sports. Right, in other words,
the team sports betting that doesn't exist in the state
(24:10):
of California if that had passed, would have existed with
one of the propositions saying, Okay, don't make it online,
don't make it easy for people go nuts and get
into trouble. How about you physically make people go Well,
the horse racing track would have been one of the
options for that. I'm sure horse racing would have said
yes to that, right, because their attendance is down in
the dumps?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Can they put them in sports They're going to put
them in sports bars here and stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Like that in your state. You're talking about what we just.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Got a pass that they're going to put like kiosks
and in sports bars and have people bet there.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
What bothers me is a sports fan, is that we're
getting it into the actual arena. And this is not
necessarily any one in Cincinnati, right, Yeah, and well, I
remember when even the Portland Trailblazers ages Ago built their
new arena, they made sure to wire it for getting
some sort of electronics at your seat in the expensive
seat because they were thinking way ahead. And now, as
(25:02):
you mentioned, they're thinking way ahead because we know we're
going in one direction with sports gambling, and it's not backwards.
What as a sports fan. I don't want to see
is the day that the gambling aspect becomes more important
than the game itself. And that's why I don't want
the majority of the fans one day to cheer or
(25:22):
boo based on Oh I bet that it was going
to be a strike.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
They do it on fantasy football as it is now,
when you're cheering against.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
That's not huge numbers. If you go to an NFL game,
people are locked in and passionate about the actual game
in front of them.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
You think that are listening to our show sports fans
And I asked Torres this last night, gamble on sports, like,
give you a percentage?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Oh, it's considerable. I don't think it's Also, I don't
think it's overheaf. Oh yes, I think that Like fantasy sports,
the people who do it talk about it a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
No, I'm talking about just gambling in general, like placing
a bet on a game or something like that.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Right, you're talking regularly, right, This is not like I
happen to be in Vegas on vacation therefore gambling. Yeah No, No,
I'm talking about people who literally every week.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's like seventy five percent of
people do it every week to go out.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, I think that number is high.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Really, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
I'm not saying that it doesn't deserve to be talked about.
It's part of the blood stream of sports now. I'm
just saying that it's kind of like the TV ratings.
It's a hundred million people watch the super Bowl, but
that means that two hundred million did.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Not right, right the guy from the Colt store. Is
that going to be a problem going on future now
with the gambling or.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I'm glad they're cracking down on it, because again, this
isn't primarily a gambling story. It's a stupidity story, the rules,
who been there, It's not a mystery story.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
What it is is I'm trying to get one over
on you because he put the account in somebody else's.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Name, this case the Colts case yet, right.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And he just made a wager when he was at
the facility. That's how they nailed him, right, Yeah, and
so it got them.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
It's good that all shorts leagues are keeping an eye
on all of this. It's just like when Bernie was
on live from Vegas on this show tonight, about how
regulated things are. And that's great for everybody. I mean
literally everybody. It's good for me as a fan because
I need a legitimate game that i'm watching. It's good
for the people that are offering the gambling. It's, believe me,
(27:21):
good for everybody that people are keeping an eye on.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I'll give you my one gambling story real quick before
we get the trending. I made a bet. I was
up in Tahoe and it was during you know, all
the Bowl seasons. People are betting the Bowl games like crazy,
and I decided to bet the Rangers Islanders over hockey game. Okay,
and yeah, I'm the only one that made the bet,
and I go outside. I'm looking at the thing and
(27:44):
it said Islanders Pittsburgh or something like that, and I
knew the Islanders were playing the Rangers. I was about
to go back in and I see the guy who
sold me the ticket out of the parking lot. I go, dude,
you got the wrong teams and he looks to me
like I'm a moron. I said, hey, dude, gad you
got the wrong time.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Maybe you get those looks naturally.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yes, exactly, And he looks at my ticket. He goes
like he turned white as it goes. Oh, he's like,
oh my god. He goes, he takes a formal ticket.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Was incorrect.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, so so he runs me back in. He holds
out of my ticket. He goes, hold on to this ticket.
If it wins, I'll pay it. If it loses, I'll
refund your ticket.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
WHOA, Yeah, how about that as downding, because I do
know the rules are like baseball, if the picture before
the game gets injured and.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
If you bet pictures though, if you just bet action
then you know, doesn't make it different who the picture is.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, well, if you bet like a regular this team
with this picture against that, yes, if it's stated and
something changes, then you have to start over.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Absolutely, absolutely
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