July 8, 2026 • 29 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, Welcome in side final Hour tonight the Jason Smith
Show with my bass friend Mike Harmon. I really think
did Egypt say this might be more difficult than the
Magic Johnson Twitter game. Oh, it's tough because.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
We know the level that they were all incensed walking
off the field. I mean we watched it and look,
if I could read lips and do the instant translation,
some of the stuff being said could never make airwaves.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
No, no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
But it was an intense game and in the postgame
everyone just let it hang loose man well.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And I also feel like I have mastered the way
that people talk about soccer outside the United States, like
it's I always I'm always jealous of the way the
adjectives that are used and how it's described like, oh,
I'm so jealous of that, and I feel like I've
met I understand. Okay, this is how they would talk
about it outside the United States. Part of the magic,
(01:22):
it's part of the rich. I mean, I've already I
told you if you had a drinking party, our drinking game,
not a drinking party. If you had a drinking game,
you watched you watched the the the foreign market coverage
of the World Cup. If you had to drink every
time an announcer said massive, like, you wouldn't make it
(01:43):
to the halftime. It's a massive call. It's a massive
penalty there. That's a massive throw in, it's a massive
hydration break. Everything is massive. It's so it's massive instead
of critical massive critical huge bonu.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Massive, It's a massive one right, critical third down massive.
Five minutes are left in the first quarter. It's a
massive third down. It's the first third down of the game.
It's third and five from the thirty five yard line.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
The massive. This is massive. Everything is met so massive.
There's no way that Jets would have three first downs.
Come on, no, they have a third down. They would
get to third down. I think the Jets will get
to the third down. Yeah, they fumbled, they'd have to
die second. They're always going to turn it over the
first two plays. They'll get the third down a couple
of times, geo, and then that's the look at the
end of the game. Hey guys, we made it to
(02:31):
third down. Fourteen possessions, I mean out of twenty six,
but fourteen possessions we made Listen, Jesse Marsh, we're not
doing your math here in terms of how well or
poorly you played in the game. Now look, now, today
was a day. Oh that was great, Jesse March. Look,
Jesse Marsh and Kenny Atkinson and Mitch Johnson should all
get together and talk about how Hey boy, what's it
(02:53):
like when you lead for most of the game. It's awesome, right,
you feel like you should win? Right? Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
but he didn't lead for most of the game. They
us three nil, but he still had that going. Yeah,
that didn't really make a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You might as well have just started singing O Canada
instead of responding to the question.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I mean well, and also like I feel like, you know,
the the whole analytic part, Like Mitch Johnson had the
best point because they led big in every game. Oh,
Kenny Atkinson and the Cavs only led in.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
A couple of games, but but they at least can't well,
I mean they won a couple of possession and uh
and passes stats, which oh, the United States did that
last night too, didn't they?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
How'd that work out for you? Now here's the thing. Now,
we talk about different sports, and today was a day
where you saw most of the reaction for the United
States losing to Belgium last night. Everybody's angry, right, and
we still stink we can't win? Uh? Where where are
we globally? We're not where we should be. Why are
we not better at soccer? You know all the stuff
you get every four years when you know one team
(03:54):
wins the World Cup and it's not us. Why isn't
it us? Right?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Evidently, though, if if you went shopping today, our loss
triggered half off sales, yes, or bogo all over the line.
I meant to go to Walgreens because they had the
stretch snap World Cup hats yeah, and I was like,
ooh oh, but I'm not spending forty five dollars on it.
But now the United States is out, I'm going tomorrow.
I guarantee it's gonna be like fourteen dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, I'll get that. Had to let me know
what you find that.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, I saw those ads popping up or the joke
became the Well, I guess Nike didn't need all those
kids anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So last hour we told you that. Look when you
compare to the United States to where we were after
the World Cup in twenty twenty two, we're in a
much better place. We have the coach we need, we
have a couple of guys to build around. We are
not answering the ridiculously stupid questions that we were after
twenty twenty two involving Burrholter and anything else around the team. Right,
So we're in a better spot now. Not that it's
(04:48):
all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows, but we talk about all
we're done, we're done. What do we do? What do
we do? This is no different than any NBA or
NF or MLB team that has gotten too old, right,
mainly in the NFL and the NBA. You make a
(05:09):
run with a team, you see, with this group, we've
kind of hit our limit. We've reached our maximum. So
now it's time to kind of rebuild on the fly,
because no one just completely tears it down. Reybuilt. We
kind of reload on the fly with this group. They've
all gotten older, making a lot of money. We need
to move on and bring some younger guys in. This
is just generally how it's done every year in sports.
(05:29):
There's a handful of teams that have done that. They've
tried it with this group, but it's gotten too expensive
or too old, and we need to move on, and
so you recycle. This is how it's done. There is
no difference in the NBA or the NFL then there
is with US soccer right now. Except it's just it's
(05:51):
not that they're too old. It's just we are done
with the Golden generation. That is not what we thought
it was going to be. Right. We talked about Polisic
last night, but quite honestly, this Golden Generation has not
done anything we thought it was going to be great.
But I've seen enough of Polisic and Robinson and Reeim
and and all and all the other guys that we're seeing. Okay,
(06:14):
and here's Richards and I've seen enough of them. I've
seen enough. I've seen enough of Deust, I've seen enough
of these guys. Yeah, They've been familiar names for the
past few years, but they're not good enough. So it's
just a case of okay, where we are Now, we
have the right coach in Pochattino, What do we do
well for the next four years. Now we build around
a new generation and the team is now led by
(06:37):
Balligan and Xavier Tillman, the two guys who project to
be great players, who are in their early twenties. Right,
they're twenty three, twenty four years old. They have another
one World Cup or two depending on how they progress
as players. But Baligan is a world class striker. Tilman
looks like he's going to be a world class player.
I've seen enough of these guys. I've seen enough of
the old Golden generation led by Polisic, not good enough.
(06:58):
Westin mckennie, I've seen enough. I've seen enough of these guys,
Tyler Adams, I've seen enough. We need something different, right,
whether it's to get younger, faster, more skilled, whatever it is.
But they have four years to figure that out. And
when you take a look at the template that's already
been there for the United States, because you know, we
watched Emma Hayes come in and say how do you
(07:19):
navigate away from the Alex Morgan Meghan Rappino era, which
is the most successful era that we've seen women soccer
have with all the stars and have won World Cups
and gold medals and Rose Lavelle and Lindsey Horan and
all of these players. How do we do that? In
Julie Urtz, how do we do it? This is a
really tough job. Well guess what she figured it out
in the span of one hiring cycle one year where boy,
(07:43):
the World Cup was really tough and we looked old
and slow. Guess what gold medal winners were built around
the trident of of of great forwards that we have.
Everything is great and we're going to enter the next
World Cup as the favorites. We should win. You can
see that last time you can do it. Yeah, I
mean it shows you can. You can have it done.
But we didn't have the coach to do it last time.
We didn't. We thought we had the players and we don't.
(08:05):
But now we have the coach and I feel really
confident in Baligan and Tilman as being the lynchpins of
this team. Now, maybe is there room for Polistic as
a thirty one year old play. Maybe, but if we
find other players that work out better than maybe this
newish generation that's inspired by the Golden generation is better. Okay,
but it's three years to find that out now. And
(08:26):
it's not like the cupboard is bare. It's not like
we lost the game to Belgium because we didn't have
the good enough talent. We lost the game against Belgium
because mentally we made mistakes. We played horribly. I'd feel
worse about the team if I thought physically the United
States wasn't comparable to other countries. But this was a
mental game last night where we made mistake after mistake
(08:47):
after mistake and watch them win and yeah, is that great? No,
that's terrible, But that's something that can be overcome. The
physical thing, you can't overcome it if you don't have
the horses. You don't have the horses. But you saw
how disappointed it was last night. That should have been
a toss up game and it wasn't. So if that's
where we are going forward, where okay, the physical skill
(09:08):
of the players is coming through, we have to find
the ones mentally that are going to be able to
stay involved in the system and be able to come
out and not come out flat and be led by
better players who are leaders, because Polistic clearly is not
what we thought he was going to be. That's okay.
That's a normal cycle in sports, where you go from okay,
we've gone this far with these players. Now we have
(09:31):
these couple of guys to build around, and we spend
the next couple of years finding the next generation. That's
just how it goes into.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, the difference being that the women's program was light
years ahead of the world, and the world caught up
a bit.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You had the infrastructure in place to say, okay, but
you still I could get to that highlight. The United States,
it's the same thing because I feel like the men
are just, hey, we have to get past this level
of being okay but not good enough, whereas for the women,
it's okay, we have to find a way to stay
at the highest level of the world. So they're both the.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
But at least there you know you have players, and
it's just acclimating to that next spot. Like there's no
resetting a mentality, nor shuffling out a full roster without
a plan in place. Here, we have no idea what
the plan is going forward. You're still hoping to retain
the coach for crying out loud, a lot of rumors
(10:20):
that he may leave. Okay, cool, but you also went down.
Then it's like, oh, we got these two guys. Okay,
that's good. Look at what and we'll just take Belgium
for instance. And even if it's mental, we showed mentally
weird not ready for a big time and that's a
problem because that's a whole other, uh literally sports psychology
(10:40):
thing we need to discuss.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But they head Doku, de Bruyna and Lukaku coming off.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We don't have that frontline, let alone three guys that
you can say, hey, ready for our second line in
this hockey line change. Look at these guys, including that
guy who's just gonna run through you.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We're nowhere near that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
We're talking about wishing and hoping that we had two
aces with Polistic and we saw how that went when
his first comments postcame odds disappointing. I'm just happy, I'm
gonna get to rest my ankle. I twisted my ankle.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
That was it. Yeah, but you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Like that, that was the guy that was supposed to
be your lead and that's that's the response.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Night it did, it didn't work. We thought it was
the golden generation and it's not. Okay, So now it's
time to go find the better players. Right. It's still
about developing and making sure that the pipeline has players
coming up. But the change over from boy, we thought
they were gonna be okay. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're not. Right, Like, like,
I don't know, Like, is this next generation of women's
(11:41):
players gonna be great for a long time? Are we
gonna be seeing the best, you know, starting eleven out
there for the next ten years with the women's team?
Are we gonna see some change? Right?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But here's the thing with the women's team, right, everybody's
chasing us here. We're still trying to figure out where
the hell we are. Even if we ranked seventeenth, how
close are we to nine versus sixty? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
In generally, generally in sports, you are much closer in
making a jump from a little bit better you it's
it's a little bit easier to jump from to conclusions,
right jumplusion. There's a mat for that. There's a matt
structure we have to abide by. It's a little bit
easier to go from average to above average than it
(12:23):
is to go from hey, we're above average to championship caliber.
So I don't think it's that that big of a
deal to ask the United States to make a jump
from hey, we're we're the top sixteen team in the world.
Let's make a jump into the top ten. I don't
think that's too that's too much to ask for the
next time around. Now, to say to jump from the
top ten into the top three, Okay, that's really hard.
(12:44):
That's a bigger jump. I'm still try I can see us.
I can see us getting as good as Belgium in
the next four years. I can't see us getting as
good as Belgium and then getting as good as Friends
through us it's aletic Fournette is really good. I can't see.
I can see us too. I'm really wondering if you did.
Did you watch the four games before where we played
(13:05):
really we lost a turkey Okay, we played, we played
with turkey us. We played with nine subs. Nine subs,
and I don't mean like now you're going to replace
on I just mean subs. Maybe this subs to be better.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You should not lose the Turkey at any sport. You know, well, listen,
we when we play our backups, that's gonna happen, right, Hey,
Polistic needed those minutes. They were pivotal.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Every day, Jason, Belgium was light speed and years ahead
of Belgium.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Belgium just sat back and watched. It was over the
first three minutes. I knew it was over. They I
think it was over before the game started toying with us.
We were we walked in flat. I mean, how do
you come up flat for World Cup games in the
backyard playing basketball eating waffles? I don't know. There's more
waffle houses here than there are in Belgium. I guarantee
you that there were going. Does Belgium have waffle houses?
(13:52):
Do they have any? I don't even know. I think
got it right.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I mean I've been what's the translation into walt I
mean I visited Ljium.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I was there. I can't remember going to a going
to waffle house. I mean it was twenty years ago.
I was there, but I was there. They don't have
the waffle house we do.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Oh probably have like some fancy knockoff where you have
to wear a tuxedo.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Hmmm, go in kind of tuxedo. I'm sorry, so you
cannot come in. Violin's playing sir tuxedo one. Oh that
I'm never coming into this see restaurant. Can I just
do takeaway that they call it? That's they called europe takeaway?
Can guy who will take away? Take away to take away?
I like that? Exit out out a Fresca exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith Mike Garman Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
(14:31):
Coming up next, an NFL story that I had to
check three times wasn't an Onion article. It's next Jason
and Mike Fox Jets to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. So we have a crazy bananas story
out of the NFL coming your way in a minute.
But because it's so much fun, and you know, we
talk about guys like Lionel Messi who do it better
than anybody else on a world stage. You want to
go to Telemundo, mister Cantor, your call is ready. Here
(15:13):
is the play by play of Messi's goal today for
Argentina that tied the game with Egypt to to apiece.
Now this is into the eightieth minute, wasting two nothing.
They thought we're just gonna skate out of here with
a two nothing win. No, no, no, and you just
sit back and allow the other team with a great
attack like Argentina to just assault you repeatedly with inside
(15:38):
the eighteen. Be careful using that term, because yeah, Egypt
feels that's what happened to them. Man, I'll tell you.
When you allow the other team to just airily and
just assault you the way they did offensively, it is
it was almost inevitable for Argentina to win this game,
even in the final ten minutes. They got three goals
(16:00):
in the last thirteen minutes because they were they were rolling,
playing that much downhill because Egypt just decided to stop playing.
But as great as the comeback was, I don't know
that anything's better than the play by play on Messi's goal.
Here's a hint. It's not in English, but I'm pretty
sure you'll be able to tell the moment the ball
goes in the.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Net, Missy say to me, Nadia, no foo food.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Messy the goat of soccer announcing Andre's chancer on Telemundo,
(17:08):
sixty three years old.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Losing his mind, losing He's got no voice left. I
am just screaming with this goal for MESSI here. Now,
that is it. That's excited that I was when the
Knicks won the title. That's how excited I.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Was, but full throated. Whatever's left. Someone needs to get
him alazenge all of those things. But i'd seen some
pushback going, no, it's too much about.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Him and whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's like, all right, go find someone to give you
a hug. It's kind of like the folks that for
the last three weeks have done nothing but complain.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Oh you're talking about soccer.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Oh you're talking about Oh I don't know some of
the games, all time greats. You're talking about soccer.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I'm sorry. Do you want me to spend more time
talking about Brandon Ayuk? No, nobody cares.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
So go find yourself a hug, Go walk your dog,
go sit, watch the sunset.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I don't know. I don't know what to tell you.
But just enjoy things. Just yeah, just just a go.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And he's got more getting and then he pauses. It
comes right back. Well, he's got tomorrow off though, yeah, yeah,
it's a big off day.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Again, it is a big off date. Now I didn't
know this. You went to college USC? How about that?
How about we hear him calling some games for USA,
calling some touchdowns? Oh no, that would be fun. Like,
how was USC not done that? You have you up?
Maybe they haven't. I don't, but I got to think
I remember that? But have you not brought andoy's canter
and to do play by play? Can he coach defense?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Go?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I wanted to coach you want to touch that? Or
off the sideline when their defense is no better? Would
be lining up and the kickers are the uprights field goal,
field goal, and then it would just be him yelling
and the rest of the crowds going, why are you
getting some excited? But that's the thing, though, is it?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Is it like a Mike Breen bang bang where it's
got to be from like a forty forty five plus?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh no?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
And he really gets something like three points? Is three
points doesn't matter? It doesn't matter if it's from fifty
five yards or thirty five yards makes no difference. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I think we should be like the NBA in summer league.
One free throw your field goal is worth one point.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Let's move on. Oh, so there it is Andre's cantor
guse Luckily he's got tomorrow off and how does how
did he's only got one game a day you know after? Yeah,
now it's okay, Now it's not one yeah, okay, okay,
all right, So.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
He worked worked it out, and now he gets now
he's not going to coast. No, I gotta imagic goals
will be fewer and far between, which means you're gonna
have a huge run up unless think he has to
call a penalty shootout ten Oh that gets soft.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, but uh, I also got to think that with
enough tea, he'll be okay. How does he not have that?
How does he not have during the World Cup a
tea endorsement deal? Oh? Absolutely? How do you not have that?
Like throat coat? Here's I'm Andre's canter for throat coat.
Go and he lose it and drinks the tea and
then go It's all rich. Sounds awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Always have a stack of that and a bunch of
honey packets laying around.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Jes Yeah, I'll be ready. So again, we'll have more
World Cup on the way. But this is a crazy
ass banana story out of the NFL, and it's thanks
to ESPN. Seth Wickersham, who was embedded with the Broncos
for the better part of last year, embedded himself with
(20:19):
the Broncos to do a story on Sean Payton, and
like it is with most stories like this, I'm embedded
for a year now. Like when big books come out,
I don't think people buy the books. They just go
I'm not going to buy this book. I'm going to
wait and online someone's going to summarize it for me
and tell me the big stuff. I'm not going to
rather up to read the whole book. I could just
(20:40):
have the summarize.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I actually took a course and that was one of
the assignments when you finished the book was to do
a two pager so that you had that for posterity, right,
and you answered like eight very specific questions about what
was in the book, what it entailed, whatever, So like
you have a binder at the end to do that,
and I used to do that with all my courses thereafter.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, I just mean more from you know, like a
tell all book or a book where you want to
hear stories about someone's writing about their life, like okay, well,
well just just bottom line it for me. How do
you the whole that, because you know the honestly, honestly,
this is what I can't stand is whenever I want
to read a biography, I want I want to say, Okay,
I get that it's your book and you're writing about
(21:20):
your life, and I understand this, but I really don't
care about your upbringing. I don't care about what life
was like for you when you were a kid. Out
of many years, man, just tell me about when you
got famous. Tell me the story. But that helps, tell
tell me the story. Tell me you tell me the stories.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Start you have cups thrown at you as a kid,
start to get him with a whisk.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I mean all of those things in forms who we've become.
Get it, I get it? Wait, sorry, I got wow. Okay, Harmon,
I would leave that out of your book.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
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Speaker 1 (22:02):
But I mean, like, I get that people want to
write about their lives grow and I'm like, okay, but
it's but generally the stories that I get. It's not
because I don't care about what your life is like
as a kid, but but it's generally just here's what
I did. I don't get any stories about this is
what helped make me who I am. Like, here's a
story about what happened when I was eleven years old, right,
it's just I did this, My parents did this, I
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did this. Here are my grades, here's the people I met.
And I'm like, okay, you're just I really tell me
a story about how what happened to you when you
were ten or thirteen or fifteen or something on the
field or in music class, whatever it was. And we
don't get those stories.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You want the the written version of a boy named Sue.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
No, I want the stories you're gonna tell me about
your life when you were famous, And give me those
stories from when you were a kid like that. That's
what that's that. Then I'm okay. Then I'm okay reading
about that. But I'm but the most part, I'm going, okay,
I'm blowing past this. I'm blowing past this. I blow okay, okay, okay.
Like A great example is Alex van Halen's book Others
that he wrote where a lot of it. The first
(23:04):
quarter of the book was about him and Eddie's Eddie
Van Helen's life coming to the United States and as
when they were kids, and I'm like, okay, I'm just
gonna brush past this. But he told so many good
stories about the two of them with their instruments, and
how Eddie Van Helen was never the guitarist, and he
goes and I was always the guitarist. And Eddie would
always would jump around and do a bunch of different things.
(23:24):
He played drums a little bit, he'd played bass, he
would do this, but I was always the guitarist. And
then they went to a concert one day and I
forget who they went to go see. And Eddie came
back home the next day and he learned the guitar
solo and he said, hey, look what I just figured out.
And Alex was like, you figured this out? What He's
act at last, like half hour or so, and he
just said, all right, Ed I got I guess you're
(23:45):
the guitarist from now on. You're a guitarist. Like the
stories like that I love, but just like, okay, here
I am, and here's who this was, and here's how
this one Okay, he just got you gotta tell me
a story. But this is a great story because the
big big ticket item from the Seth Wickersham column on
being embedded with the Broncos for a year is that
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in twenty twenty four, Sean Peyton had an idea of
stepping down from the Broncos head coaching position. He would
become the offensive coordinator and Bill Belichick would serve as
the head coach of the Broncos until he won enough
games to surpass Don Shula to become the most winningest
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head coach in NFL history. So that time with Russell
Wilson broken. Yeah, I was just done. This is a joke, right.
He said that he wanted to step aside hire Belichick
as the head coach, and Peyton would run the offense
in Belichick's the head coach and he would be the
head coach as long as it took him to break
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Don Shula's record. Now, Belichick ended his time in New
England with three hundred and thirty three career wins. He
would have to get to three hundred and forty eight
to pass Don Shula. So that's likely one good season
into a second. So that's now two years, potentially he
would be he would lose not be the head coach
because is Don Shula really gonna step aside? We have
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the three forty eight, so that's the whole thing. And
when I saw this, I said, oh my goodness, how
serious was And there's there's debate to how serious this was.
But my first thought was I think about this is boy,
did he really just hate Don Shula? I mean, like, well,
I don't go trying to figure out where any Sean
Payton Don Shula he did. He screwed me when I
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was a young coach coming into the NFL, and I
never forgot that, Like, does he have some kind of
beef against Don Shula that I say, Hey, I'm gonna
have Belichick come in and be the all time leading
head coach. Does he owe Bill Belichick somehow so deeply
that we can't even fathom it that, Okay, you know what?
He owes Bill Belichick so much? For whatever reason, I
want you to come in and be the head coach
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while I stopped down to be an offensive coordinator, and
then I'll come back up to be the head coach
after you break Donchula's record. Does he either hate Don
Shula that much that after Don Shula has died, he
wants Bill Belichick to have this record. Orders he loved
Belichick for some unknown reason. That's next level hate. That's
gonna make him. Well.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Did his gest date over a decade because Shula was
very uh pointed in comments about Peyton when Bountygate came out. Yeah,
that set for a decade. But they had the opportunity
that much. I mean he got suspended for a year.
People seem to forget that.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, but Don Shula didn't come He wasn't the czar
of the disciplinary, but he was actually done.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yes, and there's Matt Gucas over there is that that
he was always brought in as well. I mean it's
Don Shula, Yeah, the perfect record. He's the guy, and
there's the steakhouse and all of those things, and so
like they'd go to him as you know, coach emeritus,
like he was that guy before all these coaches started
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showing up on at the desk.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
But everybody had an opinion on bounty Gate and everybody
was mad. But evidently Shula went to Vard. Yes, you
think Shula had some sort of champagne toast in his
house like you would have for the unbeaten team loses
the kissed Peyton off I mean really, I mean I.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Don't know he had a hit list like he was
Steve mussemi.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Because here's the thing. If you do that because you
hate Don Shula. Okay, what happens when Belichick breaks the
record when he gets to three forty eight and he says,
you know, I really really like to get to three
I'm the captain, and I can I can I get
to three fifty? And then how can I win? Yeah?
And you and then and and Peyton says, yeah, okay,
we'll get to three fifty. But what if you don't
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have it for another whole season? Now it's another off season.
I want to get to three fifty. What if you
win so much that first year that Sean Payton gets
called in to the front office and they go, yeah,
you know, here's the thing. We know the plan was
for you to step back up and be the head coach,
but Bill wants to stay. And we kind of really
want Bill a stay too, because we've won and we
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feel really great about that. Like what if that would
have happened? And no, but that's my job. No, you
step down, you're not the head coach anymore. Well, wait
a minute, Wait a minute, because I saw all of
this unfold in the final season of West Wing, or
in season five of West Wing where Bartler stepped down
and John Goodman became president. How was he gonna get
back up and be president? Okay, I don't know, but
but what all these things could have happened? Really, Belle,
it's just gonna say, yeah, yeah, I have won three
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forty eight. I'm done. I'm stepping down. I think, I
mean with a good year. This year, Sean Payton moves
into the top ten all time. What if I get there?
What I would be ninth? I really I see Andy
Reid coming up behind me. I want to put as
much distance between me and him as I possibly can. Sean,
can you see that.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
You have guys Jordan Hudson's calling in this discussion right
because he's currently behind Chuck Knox, Dan Reeves and Mike
Tomlin and Chuck know who both have one hundred and
ninety three wins.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I don't want anybody to catch. He needs ten, so
he means ten to pass all those guys. Sorry, Sean,
but I just extended my contract as the head coach
with the BRONC.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
That would be fantastic. How great would that be? He goes, No,
I don't really want Sean to stay here. I need
Matt Patricia to run my office. And you just put
he's not even in on meetings anymore. It's just you
keep your parking spot. You got to keep Russell Wilson's.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, Welcome in side final Hour tonight the Jason Smith
Show with my bass friend Mike Harmon. I really think
did Egypt say this might be more difficult than the
Magic Johnson Twitter game. Oh, it's tough because.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
We know the level that they were all incensed walking
off the field. I mean we watched it and look,
if I could read lips and do the instant translation,
some of the stuff being said could never make airwaves.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
No, no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
But it was an intense game and in the postgame
everyone just let it hang loose man well.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And I also feel like I have mastered the way
that people talk about soccer outside the United States, like
it's I always I'm always jealous of the way the
adjectives that are used and how it's described like, oh,
I'm so jealous of that, and I feel like I've
met I understand. Okay, this is how they would talk
about it outside the United States. Part of the magic,
(01:22):
it's part of the rich. I mean, I've already I
told you if you had a drinking party, our drinking game,
not a drinking party. If you had a drinking game,
you watched you watched the the the foreign market coverage
of the World Cup. If you had to drink every
time an announcer said massive, like, you wouldn't make it
(01:43):
to the halftime. It's a massive call. It's a massive
penalty there. That's a massive throw in, it's a massive
hydration break. Everything is massive. It's so it's massive instead
of critical massive critical huge bonu.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Massive, It's a massive one right, critical third down massive.
Five minutes are left in the first quarter. It's a
massive third down. It's the first third down of the game.
It's third and five from the thirty five yard line.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
The massive. This is massive. Everything is met so massive.
There's no way that Jets would have three first downs.
Come on, no, they have a third down. They would
get to third down. I think the Jets will get
to the third down. Yeah, they fumbled, they'd have to
die second. They're always going to turn it over the
first two plays. They'll get the third down a couple
of times, geo, and then that's the look at the
end of the game. Hey guys, we made it to
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third down. Fourteen possessions, I mean out of twenty six,
but fourteen possessions we made Listen, Jesse Marsh, we're not
doing your math here in terms of how well or
poorly you played in the game. Now look, now, today
was a day. Oh that was great, Jesse March. Look,
Jesse Marsh and Kenny Atkinson and Mitch Johnson should all
get together and talk about how Hey boy, what's it
(02:53):
like when you lead for most of the game. It's awesome, right,
you feel like you should win? Right? Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
but he didn't lead for most of the game. They
us three nil, but he still had that going. Yeah,
that didn't really make a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You might as well have just started singing O Canada
instead of responding to the question.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I mean well, and also like I feel like, you know,
the the whole analytic part, Like Mitch Johnson had the
best point because they led big in every game. Oh,
Kenny Atkinson and the Cavs only led in.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
A couple of games, but but they at least can't well,
I mean they won a couple of possession and uh
and passes stats, which oh, the United States did that
last night too, didn't they?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
How'd that work out for you? Now here's the thing. Now,
we talk about different sports, and today was a day
where you saw most of the reaction for the United
States losing to Belgium last night. Everybody's angry, right, and
we still stink we can't win? Uh? Where where are
we globally? We're not where we should be. Why are
we not better at soccer? You know all the stuff
you get every four years when you know one team
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wins the World Cup and it's not us. Why isn't
it us? Right?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Evidently, though, if if you went shopping today, our loss
triggered half off sales, yes, or bogo all over the line.
I meant to go to Walgreens because they had the
stretch snap World Cup hats yeah, and I was like,
ooh oh, but I'm not spending forty five dollars on it.
But now the United States is out, I'm going tomorrow.
I guarantee it's gonna be like fourteen dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, I'll get that. Had to let me know
what you find that.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, I saw those ads popping up or the joke
became the Well, I guess Nike didn't need all those
kids anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So last hour we told you that. Look when you
compare to the United States to where we were after
the World Cup in twenty twenty two, we're in a
much better place. We have the coach we need, we
have a couple of guys to build around. We are
not answering the ridiculously stupid questions that we were after
twenty twenty two involving Burrholter and anything else around the team. Right,
So we're in a better spot now. Not that it's
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all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows, but we talk about all
we're done, we're done. What do we do? What do
we do? This is no different than any NBA or
NF or MLB team that has gotten too old, right,
mainly in the NFL and the NBA. You make a
(05:09):
run with a team, you see, with this group, we've
kind of hit our limit. We've reached our maximum. So
now it's time to kind of rebuild on the fly,
because no one just completely tears it down. Reybuilt. We
kind of reload on the fly with this group. They've
all gotten older, making a lot of money. We need
to move on and bring some younger guys in. This
is just generally how it's done every year in sports.
(05:29):
There's a handful of teams that have done that. They've
tried it with this group, but it's gotten too expensive
or too old, and we need to move on, and
so you recycle. This is how it's done. There is
no difference in the NBA or the NFL then there
is with US soccer right now. Except it's just it's
(05:51):
not that they're too old. It's just we are done
with the Golden generation. That is not what we thought
it was going to be. Right. We talked about Polisic
last night, but quite honestly, this Golden Generation has not
done anything we thought it was going to be great.
But I've seen enough of Polisic and Robinson and Reeim
and and all and all the other guys that we're seeing. Okay,
(06:14):
and here's Richards and I've seen enough of them. I've
seen enough. I've seen enough of Deust, I've seen enough
of these guys. Yeah, They've been familiar names for the
past few years, but they're not good enough. So it's
just a case of okay, where we are Now, we
have the right coach in Pochattino, What do we do
well for the next four years. Now we build around
a new generation and the team is now led by
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Balligan and Xavier Tillman, the two guys who project to
be great players, who are in their early twenties. Right,
they're twenty three, twenty four years old. They have another
one World Cup or two depending on how they progress
as players. But Baligan is a world class striker. Tilman
looks like he's going to be a world class player.
I've seen enough of these guys. I've seen enough of
the old Golden generation led by Polisic, not good enough.
(06:58):
Westin mckennie, I've seen enough. I've seen enough of these guys,
Tyler Adams, I've seen enough. We need something different, right,
whether it's to get younger, faster, more skilled, whatever it is.
But they have four years to figure that out. And
when you take a look at the template that's already
been there for the United States, because you know, we
watched Emma Hayes come in and say how do you
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navigate away from the Alex Morgan Meghan Rappino era, which
is the most successful era that we've seen women soccer
have with all the stars and have won World Cups
and gold medals and Rose Lavelle and Lindsey Horan and
all of these players. How do we do that? In
Julie Urtz, how do we do it? This is a
really tough job. Well guess what she figured it out
in the span of one hiring cycle one year where boy,
(07:43):
the World Cup was really tough and we looked old
and slow. Guess what gold medal winners were built around
the trident of of of great forwards that we have.
Everything is great and we're going to enter the next
World Cup as the favorites. We should win. You can
see that last time you can do it. Yeah, I
mean it shows you can. You can have it done.
But we didn't have the coach to do it last time.
We didn't. We thought we had the players and we don't.
(08:05):
But now we have the coach and I feel really
confident in Baligan and Tilman as being the lynchpins of
this team. Now, maybe is there room for Polistic as
a thirty one year old play. Maybe, but if we
find other players that work out better than maybe this
newish generation that's inspired by the Golden generation is better. Okay,
but it's three years to find that out now. And
(08:26):
it's not like the cupboard is bare. It's not like
we lost the game to Belgium because we didn't have
the good enough talent. We lost the game against Belgium
because mentally we made mistakes. We played horribly. I'd feel
worse about the team if I thought physically the United
States wasn't comparable to other countries. But this was a
mental game last night where we made mistake after mistake
(08:47):
after mistake and watch them win and yeah, is that great? No,
that's terrible, But that's something that can be overcome. The
physical thing, you can't overcome it if you don't have
the horses. You don't have the horses. But you saw
how disappointed it was last night. That should have been
a toss up game and it wasn't. So if that's
where we are going forward, where okay, the physical skill
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of the players is coming through, we have to find
the ones mentally that are going to be able to
stay involved in the system and be able to come
out and not come out flat and be led by
better players who are leaders, because Polistic clearly is not
what we thought he was going to be. That's okay.
That's a normal cycle in sports, where you go from okay,
we've gone this far with these players. Now we have
(09:31):
these couple of guys to build around, and we spend
the next couple of years finding the next generation. That's
just how it goes into.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, the difference being that the women's program was light
years ahead of the world, and the world caught up
a bit.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You had the infrastructure in place to say, okay, but
you still I could get to that highlight. The United States,
it's the same thing because I feel like the men
are just, hey, we have to get past this level
of being okay but not good enough, whereas for the women,
it's okay, we have to find a way to stay
at the highest level of the world. So they're both the.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
But at least there you know you have players, and
it's just acclimating to that next spot. Like there's no
resetting a mentality, nor shuffling out a full roster without
a plan in place. Here, we have no idea what
the plan is going forward. You're still hoping to retain
the coach for crying out loud, a lot of rumors
(10:20):
that he may leave. Okay, cool, but you also went down.
Then it's like, oh, we got these two guys. Okay,
that's good. Look at what and we'll just take Belgium
for instance. And even if it's mental, we showed mentally
weird not ready for a big time and that's a
problem because that's a whole other, uh literally sports psychology
(10:40):
thing we need to discuss.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But they head Doku, de Bruyna and Lukaku coming off.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We don't have that frontline, let alone three guys that
you can say, hey, ready for our second line in
this hockey line change. Look at these guys, including that
guy who's just gonna run through you.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We're nowhere near that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
We're talking about wishing and hoping that we had two
aces with Polistic and we saw how that went when
his first comments postcame odds disappointing. I'm just happy, I'm
gonna get to rest my ankle. I twisted my ankle.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
That was it. Yeah, but you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Like that, that was the guy that was supposed to
be your lead and that's that's the response.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Night it did, it didn't work. We thought it was
the golden generation and it's not. Okay, So now it's
time to go find the better players. Right. It's still
about developing and making sure that the pipeline has players
coming up. But the change over from boy, we thought
they were gonna be okay. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're not. Right, Like, like,
I don't know, Like, is this next generation of women's
(11:41):
players gonna be great for a long time? Are we
gonna be seeing the best, you know, starting eleven out
there for the next ten years with the women's team?
Are we gonna see some change? Right?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But here's the thing with the women's team, right, everybody's
chasing us here. We're still trying to figure out where
the hell we are. Even if we ranked seventeenth, how
close are we to nine versus sixty? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
In generally, generally in sports, you are much closer in
making a jump from a little bit better you it's
it's a little bit easier to jump from to conclusions,
right jumplusion. There's a mat for that. There's a matt
structure we have to abide by. It's a little bit
easier to go from average to above average than it
(12:23):
is to go from hey, we're above average to championship caliber.
So I don't think it's that that big of a
deal to ask the United States to make a jump
from hey, we're we're the top sixteen team in the world.
Let's make a jump into the top ten. I don't
think that's too that's too much to ask for the
next time around. Now, to say to jump from the
top ten into the top three, Okay, that's really hard.
(12:44):
That's a bigger jump. I'm still try I can see us.
I can see us getting as good as Belgium in
the next four years. I can't see us getting as
good as Belgium and then getting as good as Friends
through us it's aletic Fournette is really good. I can't see.
I can see us too. I'm really wondering if you did.
Did you watch the four games before where we played
(13:05):
really we lost a turkey Okay, we played, we played
with turkey us. We played with nine subs. Nine subs,
and I don't mean like now you're going to replace
on I just mean subs. Maybe this subs to be better.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You should not lose the Turkey at any sport. You know, well, listen,
we when we play our backups, that's gonna happen, right, Hey,
Polistic needed those minutes. They were pivotal.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Every day, Jason, Belgium was light speed and years ahead
of Belgium.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Belgium just sat back and watched. It was over the
first three minutes. I knew it was over. They I
think it was over before the game started toying with us.
We were we walked in flat. I mean, how do
you come up flat for World Cup games in the
backyard playing basketball eating waffles? I don't know. There's more
waffle houses here than there are in Belgium. I guarantee
you that there were going. Does Belgium have waffle houses?
(13:52):
Do they have any? I don't even know. I think
got it right.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I mean I've been what's the translation into walt I
mean I visited Ljium.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I was there. I can't remember going to a going
to waffle house. I mean it was twenty years ago.
I was there, but I was there. They don't have
the waffle house we do.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Oh probably have like some fancy knockoff where you have
to wear a tuxedo.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Hmmm, go in kind of tuxedo. I'm sorry, so you
cannot come in. Violin's playing sir tuxedo one. Oh that
I'm never coming into this see restaurant. Can I just
do takeaway that they call it? That's they called europe takeaway?
Can guy who will take away? Take away to take away?
I like that? Exit out out a Fresca exit swollen dome.
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Speaker 1 (14:49):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. So we have a crazy bananas story
out of the NFL coming your way in a minute.
But because it's so much fun, and you know, we
talk about guys like Lionel Messi who do it better
than anybody else on a world stage. You want to
go to Telemundo, mister Cantor, your call is ready. Here
(15:13):
is the play by play of Messi's goal today for
Argentina that tied the game with Egypt to to apiece.
Now this is into the eightieth minute, wasting two nothing.
They thought we're just gonna skate out of here with
a two nothing win. No, no, no, and you just
sit back and allow the other team with a great
attack like Argentina to just assault you repeatedly with inside
(15:38):
the eighteen. Be careful using that term, because yeah, Egypt
feels that's what happened to them. Man, I'll tell you.
When you allow the other team to just airily and
just assault you the way they did offensively, it is
it was almost inevitable for Argentina to win this game,
even in the final ten minutes. They got three goals
(16:00):
in the last thirteen minutes because they were they were rolling,
playing that much downhill because Egypt just decided to stop playing.
But as great as the comeback was, I don't know
that anything's better than the play by play on Messi's goal.
Here's a hint. It's not in English, but I'm pretty
sure you'll be able to tell the moment the ball
goes in the.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Net, Missy say to me, Nadia, no foo food.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Messy the goat of soccer announcing Andre's chancer on Telemundo,
(17:08):
sixty three years old.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Losing his mind, losing He's got no voice left. I
am just screaming with this goal for MESSI here. Now,
that is it. That's excited that I was when the
Knicks won the title. That's how excited I.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Was, but full throated. Whatever's left. Someone needs to get
him alazenge all of those things. But i'd seen some
pushback going, no, it's too much about.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Him and whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's like, all right, go find someone to give you
a hug. It's kind of like the folks that for
the last three weeks have done nothing but complain.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Oh you're talking about soccer.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Oh you're talking about Oh I don't know some of
the games, all time greats. You're talking about soccer.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I'm sorry. Do you want me to spend more time
talking about Brandon Ayuk? No, nobody cares.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
So go find yourself a hug, Go walk your dog,
go sit, watch the sunset.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I don't know. I don't know what to tell you.
But just enjoy things. Just yeah, just just a go.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And he's got more getting and then he pauses. It
comes right back. Well, he's got tomorrow off though, yeah, yeah,
it's a big off day.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Again, it is a big off date. Now I didn't
know this. You went to college USC? How about that?
How about we hear him calling some games for USA,
calling some touchdowns? Oh no, that would be fun. Like,
how was USC not done that? You have you up?
Maybe they haven't. I don't, but I got to think
I remember that? But have you not brought andoy's canter
and to do play by play? Can he coach defense?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Go?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I wanted to coach you want to touch that? Or
off the sideline when their defense is no better? Would
be lining up and the kickers are the uprights field goal,
field goal, and then it would just be him yelling
and the rest of the crowds going, why are you
getting some excited? But that's the thing, though, is it?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Is it like a Mike Breen bang bang where it's
got to be from like a forty forty five plus?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh no?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
And he really gets something like three points? Is three
points doesn't matter? It doesn't matter if it's from fifty
five yards or thirty five yards makes no difference. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I think we should be like the NBA in summer league.
One free throw your field goal is worth one point.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Let's move on. Oh, so there it is Andre's cantor
guse Luckily he's got tomorrow off and how does how
did he's only got one game a day you know after? Yeah,
now it's okay, Now it's not one yeah, okay, okay,
all right, So.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
He worked worked it out, and now he gets now
he's not going to coast. No, I gotta imagic goals
will be fewer and far between, which means you're gonna
have a huge run up unless think he has to
call a penalty shootout ten Oh that gets soft.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, but uh, I also got to think that with
enough tea, he'll be okay. How does he not have that?
How does he not have during the World Cup a
tea endorsement deal? Oh? Absolutely? How do you not have that?
Like throat coat? Here's I'm Andre's canter for throat coat.
Go and he lose it and drinks the tea and
then go It's all rich. Sounds awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Always have a stack of that and a bunch of
honey packets laying around.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Jes Yeah, I'll be ready. So again, we'll have more
World Cup on the way. But this is a crazy
ass banana story out of the NFL, and it's thanks
to ESPN. Seth Wickersham, who was embedded with the Broncos
for the better part of last year, embedded himself with
(20:19):
the Broncos to do a story on Sean Payton, and
like it is with most stories like this, I'm embedded
for a year now. Like when big books come out,
I don't think people buy the books. They just go
I'm not going to buy this book. I'm going to
wait and online someone's going to summarize it for me
and tell me the big stuff. I'm not going to
rather up to read the whole book. I could just
(20:40):
have the summarize.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I actually took a course and that was one of
the assignments when you finished the book was to do
a two pager so that you had that for posterity, right,
and you answered like eight very specific questions about what
was in the book, what it entailed, whatever, So like
you have a binder at the end to do that,
and I used to do that with all my courses thereafter.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, I just mean more from you know, like a
tell all book or a book where you want to
hear stories about someone's writing about their life, like okay, well,
well just just bottom line it for me. How do
you the whole that, because you know the honestly, honestly,
this is what I can't stand is whenever I want
to read a biography, I want I want to say, Okay,
I get that it's your book and you're writing about
(21:20):
your life, and I understand this, but I really don't
care about your upbringing. I don't care about what life
was like for you when you were a kid. Out
of many years, man, just tell me about when you
got famous. Tell me the story. But that helps, tell
tell me the story. Tell me you tell me the stories.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Start you have cups thrown at you as a kid,
start to get him with a whisk.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I mean all of those things in forms who we've become.
Get it, I get it? Wait, sorry, I got wow. Okay, Harmon,
I would leave that out of your book.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
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Speaker 1 (22:02):
But I mean, like, I get that people want to
write about their lives grow and I'm like, okay, but
it's but generally the stories that I get. It's not
because I don't care about what your life is like
as a kid, but but it's generally just here's what
I did. I don't get any stories about this is
what helped make me who I am. Like, here's a
story about what happened when I was eleven years old, right,
it's just I did this, My parents did this, I
(22:22):
did this. Here are my grades, here's the people I met.
And I'm like, okay, you're just I really tell me
a story about how what happened to you when you
were ten or thirteen or fifteen or something on the
field or in music class, whatever it was. And we
don't get those stories.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You want the the written version of a boy named Sue.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
No, I want the stories you're gonna tell me about
your life when you were famous, And give me those
stories from when you were a kid like that. That's
what that's that. Then I'm okay. Then I'm okay reading
about that. But I'm but the most part, I'm going, okay,
I'm blowing past this. I'm blowing past this. I blow okay, okay, okay.
Like A great example is Alex van Halen's book Others
that he wrote where a lot of it. The first
(23:04):
quarter of the book was about him and Eddie's Eddie
Van Helen's life coming to the United States and as
when they were kids, and I'm like, okay, I'm just
gonna brush past this. But he told so many good
stories about the two of them with their instruments, and
how Eddie Van Helen was never the guitarist, and he
goes and I was always the guitarist. And Eddie would
always would jump around and do a bunch of different things.
(23:24):
He played drums a little bit, he'd played bass, he
would do this, but I was always the guitarist. And
then they went to a concert one day and I
forget who they went to go see. And Eddie came
back home the next day and he learned the guitar
solo and he said, hey, look what I just figured out.
And Alex was like, you figured this out? What He's
act at last, like half hour or so, and he
just said, all right, Ed I got I guess you're
(23:45):
the guitarist from now on. You're a guitarist. Like the
stories like that I love, but just like, okay, here
I am, and here's who this was, and here's how
this one Okay, he just got you gotta tell me
a story. But this is a great story because the
big big ticket item from the Seth Wickersham column on
being embedded with the Broncos for a year is that
(24:06):
in twenty twenty four, Sean Peyton had an idea of
stepping down from the Broncos head coaching position. He would
become the offensive coordinator and Bill Belichick would serve as
the head coach of the Broncos until he won enough
games to surpass Don Shula to become the most winningest
(24:30):
head coach in NFL history. So that time with Russell
Wilson broken. Yeah, I was just done. This is a joke, right.
He said that he wanted to step aside hire Belichick
as the head coach, and Peyton would run the offense
in Belichick's the head coach and he would be the
head coach as long as it took him to break
(24:52):
Don Shula's record. Now, Belichick ended his time in New
England with three hundred and thirty three career wins. He
would have to get to three hundred and forty eight
to pass Don Shula. So that's likely one good season
into a second. So that's now two years, potentially he
would be he would lose not be the head coach
because is Don Shula really gonna step aside? We have
(25:14):
the three forty eight, so that's the whole thing. And
when I saw this, I said, oh my goodness, how
serious was And there's there's debate to how serious this was.
But my first thought was I think about this is boy,
did he really just hate Don Shula? I mean, like, well,
I don't go trying to figure out where any Sean
Payton Don Shula he did. He screwed me when I
(25:34):
was a young coach coming into the NFL, and I
never forgot that, Like, does he have some kind of
beef against Don Shula that I say, Hey, I'm gonna
have Belichick come in and be the all time leading
head coach. Does he owe Bill Belichick somehow so deeply
that we can't even fathom it that, Okay, you know what?
He owes Bill Belichick so much? For whatever reason, I
want you to come in and be the head coach
(25:56):
while I stopped down to be an offensive coordinator, and
then I'll come back up to be the head coach
after you break Donchula's record. Does he either hate Don
Shula that much that after Don Shula has died, he
wants Bill Belichick to have this record. Orders he loved
Belichick for some unknown reason. That's next level hate. That's
gonna make him. Well.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Did his gest date over a decade because Shula was
very uh pointed in comments about Peyton when Bountygate came out. Yeah,
that set for a decade. But they had the opportunity
that much. I mean he got suspended for a year.
People seem to forget that.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, but Don Shula didn't come He wasn't the czar
of the disciplinary, but he was actually done.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yes, and there's Matt Gucas over there is that that
he was always brought in as well. I mean it's
Don Shula, Yeah, the perfect record. He's the guy, and
there's the steakhouse and all of those things, and so
like they'd go to him as you know, coach emeritus,
like he was that guy before all these coaches started
(26:59):
showing up on at the desk.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
But everybody had an opinion on bounty Gate and everybody
was mad. But evidently Shula went to Vard. Yes, you
think Shula had some sort of champagne toast in his
house like you would have for the unbeaten team loses
the kissed Peyton off I mean really, I mean I.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Don't know he had a hit list like he was
Steve mussemi.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Because here's the thing. If you do that because you
hate Don Shula. Okay, what happens when Belichick breaks the
record when he gets to three forty eight and he says,
you know, I really really like to get to three
I'm the captain, and I can I can I get
to three fifty? And then how can I win? Yeah?
And you and then and and Peyton says, yeah, okay,
we'll get to three fifty. But what if you don't
(27:42):
have it for another whole season? Now it's another off season.
I want to get to three fifty. What if you
win so much that first year that Sean Payton gets
called in to the front office and they go, yeah,
you know, here's the thing. We know the plan was
for you to step back up and be the head coach,
but Bill wants to stay. And we kind of really
want Bill a stay too, because we've won and we
(28:04):
feel really great about that. Like what if that would
have happened? And no, but that's my job. No, you
step down, you're not the head coach anymore. Well, wait
a minute, Wait a minute, because I saw all of
this unfold in the final season of West Wing, or
in season five of West Wing where Bartler stepped down
and John Goodman became president. How was he gonna get
back up and be president? Okay, I don't know, but
but what all these things could have happened? Really, Belle,
it's just gonna say, yeah, yeah, I have won three
(28:25):
forty eight. I'm done. I'm stepping down. I think, I
mean with a good year. This year, Sean Payton moves
into the top ten all time. What if I get there?
What I would be ninth? I really I see Andy
Reid coming up behind me. I want to put as
much distance between me and him as I possibly can. Sean,
can you see that.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
You have guys Jordan Hudson's calling in this discussion right
because he's currently behind Chuck Knox, Dan Reeves and Mike
Tomlin and Chuck know who both have one hundred and
ninety three wins.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I don't want anybody to catch. He needs ten, so
he means ten to pass all those guys. Sorry, Sean,
but I just extended my contract as the head coach
with the BRONC.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
That would be fantastic. How great would that be? He goes, No,
I don't really want Sean to stay here. I need
Matt Patricia to run my office. And you just put
he's not even in on meetings anymore. It's just you
keep your parking spot. You got to keep Russell Wilson's.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
That's all you get.
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