November 11, 2025 • 33 mins
Find out if Jason and Mike agree with Nick Sirianni’s decision to go for it on fourth and six with just over 30 seconds remaining in the game. And whose idea was it to have the Jets play nationally on TNF in Week 11??
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E's thick ty shirt like plans when to play that,
Like she's got really good timing with that, like realactly
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good timing. Yeah, that's that's pretty good. Uh So, Monday
Night football goes to the Eagles in a game that
was four quarters. The game ended, we had a winner
and a loser. It reminds me of those old promos.
You go back and hear live Guns and Roses tracks
(01:13):
from back in the day and they have the guy
come out on stage. He's like, of all the beds
in the world, this is one of them from Hollywood, California.
Same thing here. Of all the NFL games on your slate,
that's why this was one of them. You know, I've
worked with a lot of people in radio and you're
one of them. Nah. I may or may not have
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dropped that line before, but like we like to say
here on the show, it doesn't matter if a game
is good. It just matters that it's close. And we
kind of made a deal with the football gods after
the third quarter. You and I said, hey, if you
bring us something good in the fourth quarter, we can
forget about the first three quarters.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
How bad.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
They know. That's right, I can celebrate the hell out
of that final final Stanza as it were the final act.
So give us something, and you know what the football
god said, I think that's a fair deal. Thank you
very much. I will do that for you. What do
we have to offer in sacrifice for Thursday Night? No, Well,
I think they felt bad because we're in a big
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network slump where last week was Broncos Raiders, which was awful,
Tonight was awful, Thursday is the Jets and the Patriots,
which is awful. And from hell, I mean really NFL schedule, like, hey,
look I'm getting to the Jets on National TV. But
I'm like, whose idea was it that thought it was
gonna be a good idea to put the Jets on
week eleven, Like you gotta put the Jets on week
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two when people still think there's hope? Well, because what
five and a half on Man four and a half
for him? You can't put Jets Patriots on week eleven.
You didn't think the Patriot's going to be this good?
You got lucky, You got lucky, the Patriots are this good,
but you put you can't put the Jets on week
Let you put the Jets on like week two week
unless you were promising me like a return of Tom
Brady or something like we're asking for me. Rob Gronkowski
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said he's gonna do the ceremonial track. No, no, no, you
have to play Thursday. You're you're ask for people and
not watch the game. Yeah, no, I can't make it.
You can't make it. No, I can't make it. Can't
make it. So we wound up getting what we wanted
with the most ridiculous coaching decision made by Nick Sirianni
that I wanted to see the Packers tie this game
(03:18):
just so we had to eat it. The Eagles have
the ball a ten to seven lead with less than
a minute left to go. They're facing a fourth and
six or seven from the packers thirty five yard line
six seven six seven six seven, a fourth down in
between six and seven yards from the Packers thirty five
yard line. Now there are three choices. If you are
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the Eagles, you can kick a field goal fifty to
give you a thirteen to seven lead, but it is
risky because if you miss, the Packers will have twenty
five seconds to get about twenty yards where they could
kick a field goals. Into overtime, you could punt, which
is the right call because the Packers are out of timeouts.
(04:02):
You'd give him the ball probably somewhere inside the twenty
yard line. Let then not all the way down to
the goal, but let's just say fifteen yard line, pooch
pont cough, coffin corner. Whatever. Yeah. Then with less than
twenty five seconds left, the Packers would have to get
forty yards to be able to kick a field goal.
Probably not happening. That's the right call given.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The way this game has gone.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Uh, I think that's probably a pretty good odds they're
not getting those forty plus yards. Yeah, third choice is
to go for it on fourth down. Okay, okay, that's
the worst choice. That's the choice Nick Sirianni made. I'm
gonna go for it on fourth down, which was stupid,
which is fine, but like once you open that door,
now we get to the drop down. Man, good for
(04:44):
us because it was fun. This gave us something to
talk about. He was Nick Sirianni doing something stupid. I'm
going for it on fourth down and six or seven
from the thirty five, not fourth and one, not fourth
Now I can run the toush push. No fourth and six.
I'm gonna go for it, which is stupid. Now, okay,
you've made that bad decision, all right, Now what can
you do here on fourth down? Well, let's see. We
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could get the ball to Saquon doesn't have to come
off the field. Okay. We could throw it to DeVante
Smith sure had a good day touchdown. He's our best receiver. Yeah,
I'm sure he's your leader and everything go to Dallas Goddard.
He's made big catches. You could do that, right, those shames.
I could throw it to aj Brown, but probably that's
your last choice, right, But six targets on the day.
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So you've warmed him up, you have the whole field.
You can use all of these things, right, So, okay,
the worst quarterback draw, Yeah, yeah, we're Jalen Hurts gets
a Shigne run. Hey, run, You have all those choices.
The worst choice would be throwing it to AJ Brown
with all the difficulties at this year. But ya's what
Nick Sirianni said, Let's do that, right, So the OC
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dials up a fifty to fifty jump ball play for
AJ Brown inside the ten yard line. Owing to our
conversation of last hour, boy, I really wish I could
have got some real time prop bets for what that
fourth down call was gonna be. All of this, all
of these choices they made. No, no, we're gonna make
the worst ones ever, right. But Tulo makes the call,
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and I'm sure Sirianni said, yeah, go ahead, let's run it.
They throw a fifty to fifty ball downfield. That okay,
right away, that play call is a win for the defense.
Fifty to fifty. Yeah, we're good with that. We're good
with that. You have a lot of weapons on the
offense here, We're good with that. We're good You don't
and they throw it up and it doesn't give him
a chance, so they turned the ball over to the Packers,
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who can't get far enough down the field. In the
last second attempt by Brandon McManus is no good. They
tried one a couple of plays before, but the Eagles
call time out. McManus still went through with the kick,
saw that he couldn't make it. The Packers tried to
run one more play. They couldn't, so then they trot
McManus out for a second try at it. He misses
it even worse and the pat and the Eagles escape
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ten to seven. Doesn't take over it take away from
the fact that this was a ridiculously bad call made
by Nick Siriot, which is why even though they won.
I can't trust the Eagles. I can't trust them because
they have one foot on the banana peel at all times.
Pump the ball win the game. No, no, no, let's
go for it, because I want to win with a flourish.
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I want to win where like making a move now.
I don't want to win meekly. I want to win
with a flourish. Well, you almost lost the game, and
I really wish the Packers had gotten overtime and Nick
Sirianni had to eat it, but he got lucky. But
it doesn't. But that's why I can't believe in the Eagles,
because they always have one foot on the banana peel
at all times. There are always one step away from disaster,
and that clearly he showed that tonight. We are one step.
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I can show you how one bad coaching decision that
me and the OC make and we are on that
road into absolute desperation. We have our foot right on
that peel, ready to slip and fall well through the
ball to Brown. Valentine was there. He did not allow
your options to cash, much like in trading play. Is
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that good too old? I don't know. Hey, they said,
TJ feeling good defensively, Yes, TJ looking good defensively. Yeah.
He hit him square in the back. He never run
to look for the ball, but it doesn't matter. The
ball falls harmlessly incomplete. Now Sirianni and his post game said, hey,
you know what, I wanted to be aggressive there. I
want to do to that, and fine, you know that
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that's the option. But we went through this entire drop
down menu of all at the different play joints. I
would have rather run the toush push yeah, right, and
if nothing else, you keep the legs churning. All of
a sudden, you got Look, this was the team that
challenged it, right, Yeah, was this not the opportunity to
do the double gird But even if you don't get it,
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it's the double burd up.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And look at how we're going to finish this game.
Yeah jerks.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, and then you let your defense go do what
it needed to if you didn't get the seven yards,
But say you did. You want to talk about demoralizing
a team on their home field. Could have run it
four times if you're just gonna run off.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
They gave it to Barkley the first three plays. Run
the touch put run four times. Just try to do
it like here we are here was like a tank
and the wheels and the we're gonna grind you down
over four plays like this. Now, obviously Lane Johnson had
been hurt. He came back in to finish the job.
So maybe you're you're not as feeling as plucky about
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doing that. But if the whole thing is about intestinal
fortitude and showing it and sticking it to them, because
we want to be the hard guys would what better
play than the one that they tried to get out lawed.
Here's Sirianni. Here's about a minute of Sirianni explaining his
play call in the fourth quarter game, going for it
when punting would have won the game.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
So the end of the the end of the game,
you know, we're saying we're up three, and I would
have liked to be in a little closer to kick
a field goal. But the closer we would have got
the more. Again, you play every situation a little bit differently,
but I didn't want I think we were it was
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into the wind on that one. I knew the kick
would have had to be a little bit lower trajectory of
a kick on that. On that particular one, I got
a lot of faith in our offense. It didn't work
out on this one, you know, uh, you know we
we we just didn't. We just didn't get it. But
the decision I stand put on that decision, you know,
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especially being up three, because you go up six, they're
still going to need a touchdown in hell Mary everything
like that. So we would ended the game if we
would have got that. And then got a lot of
faith in our guys to be able to do that.
But the reason I didn't kick the field goal again
being up three, and also just this trajectory into the
wind there on that particular.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
One, Why didn't you put Why didn't you putt? Forget
about the field, you should have punted. It was hard
to go through all the and he does I feel
really conconfident about that, through all the ums and errs
and oh we wanted No, he knows that he screwed up,
but I'm not gonna admit it. I'd rather him just say,
you know what, we went for it because I trust
the offense. That's why we did it.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Own it.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
If you're really gonna own it, my offense, and we've
done a good job defensively against level. Trust Jalen, I
trust aj Brown, I trust our guys to get it done.
Just say that instead of well with because you should
have punted. The punting is gonna. I know it seems
like a weird way to win joeby, but you weren't.
You weren't running thinking you're gonna get the first down.
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You ran three plays to the middle of the field.
It's not like you had some sort of really great
creative play call and it's gonna get you a first
down where you're running the football. You're trying to just
we're gonna take it's not working for our offense. We're
trying to take time off the clock, and we're gonna
give them the ball back with however little time possible
there is there. Right, you got a bush bush four times.
I didn't buy anything that, Sirianni. It all out to
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the kicking game and the wins and whatever else like
either either say you really believed your defense would finish
if they needed to, or really back what Jalen hurts
in the offense we're doing, even though offensively had been
a disaster except for one throw to DeVante Smith. All
night it was an absolute disaster, and he's lucky that
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it didn't turn out worse. But that's that's part of
the thing with the Eagles and the Packers and the Bills,
right these teams we talk about that I can't trust,
is that it goes further than okay, here's a bad
coaching decision. It's not just that it's these teams Suddenly
you can't trust them to score despite the fact they
have the highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL. The Bills
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can't score and they have Josh Allen. The Eagles can't
score and they got Jalen Hurts. Right, Jordan Love has
paid fifty million dollars a year, and these are teams
that can't throw the football down the field and put
up stinkers way too often for the talent they have
at quarterback. Trust them. I saw a step for the
Packers that in seven of their games they've scored seven
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or fewer points in the first half. No good, no good.
These teams should be scored if you're losing, I get it.
But when you're losing because your offense can't score, no, not.
When you're now, when you have fifty million dollars year quarterbacks,
you should be scoring some points. Not and and not
nearly to the extent where every three weeks we say, wow,
that was a stinker. Twice a year. I get you
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have a stinker. It's a long time in the NFL,
eighteen weeks or seventeen weeks, a long time to get
through sixteen games. But when you have these teams each
have three stinkers already, I can't trust them as contenders.
I trust the Rams more. I trust the Seahawks more.
I even trust the Chiefs more and I don't even
think they're gonna win the division, and I trust them
more than I trust those teams. The Refs now, they
do have they do have the reus. They do have
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the rev I mean holiday season, the refs do get
a little bit generous season for them, holiday holiday, holiday holiday.
But I mean with the packers, right, three losses, I
mean they've given up only what is it, thirty nine
forty points. It's it's a minimal number, that's all finding good.
If your offense can't get the job done, then then
it doesn't matter. Exit up about a Fresco exit Swallowing
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Eagles over the Packers ten to seven. The lesson about
that game, the better true. Understand that we have football
Thursday night. We're gonna watch it, so I need to
know that's it, that's it, and sell it. NFL one
(15:21):
of two seventy two. They're running out people, But what's
the game. Doesn't matter. That there's football on Thursday night
doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. You'll get to see Drake May
Thursday night. There you go, sell the hell out of
MVP baby May. Yeah. Now, I'm glad you brought up
Drake May. Right. The last twenty four hours has been
full of a lot of MVP talk in the NFL,
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and the two big names you're hearing the most out
of well with Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs being on
a buy has been Drake May and Matthew Stafford, both
one more guy, both having great years. Right, Jonathan Taylor
Jonathan Taylor as well. But he's a running back. He's
not gonna win. Sorry, Oh is that just one?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Was that too? Dare you?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Two? BLUs?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
He's fifty, dad, he's a running back. Somebody's putting a
bunch of money in sa Kwon Barkley ran for two
thousand yards last year, didn't win MVP. He's not winning.
I'm sorry, he's not winning. I don't know what kind
of year you have to have if you can run
for two thousand yards and not, I don't know what
kind of year you have to have as a running back. You,
Sarah get a silver medal? Yeah, that's great. Here you
tell you're getting you did even finished seconds?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No, he did.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Not not even close. Well that's great, that's awesome. That's great.
That's deal with reality. The two names hearing a lot
of it, and yes, Drake May has been terrific. I
have to come around to it. We'll get into the
Patriots over the course of this week. I have around.
The Patriots are good, Drake May is good. I'd like
to sit Tampa game.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Sold you. I'd like to.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Now they're good. You hated them and they're scheduling everything
about them. Yeah, no, but Drake May, I can't. I can't.
You know, I don't think he's the MVP, but he
is having a good year. He hated the little guy
on the side of the helmet. Good, come on, pat Patriot,
the memories of grunk House and now Matthew Stafford's getting
a lot of run rightfully, So Rams are the best
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team in the NFC, maybe the best team in football.
Stafford's on a heat. Did you see he's up to
five hundred for his career record down Yeah, yeah, one
hundred and fifteen, one hundred and fifteen and one. That
was I think that was Eli Manning's career record was
like one fifteen and one fourteen, one game over. I
want to say he's one game over five hundred for
his career, like that's Eli's record winner. But when you
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win two Super Bowls and you beat Brady twice. Okay,
So so Stafford getting a lot of run, rightfully, So
Stafford's having a great year. But I want to throw
this at YouTube. If you really want to talk about MVP, Okay,
I'm gonna give you a guy that we talked about
beginning of the season, saying he's on the path to
start him. Everything is fine, Gonna take his team a
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little bit to figure it out, but everything is fine.
The era of good feeling is here and now everybody
wants to jump on the band. Go No, I always
thought he was good. No stop, we told the beginning
of things are gonna be good. You want to talk
about MVP, Bears quarterback Caleb Williams, think about NFL MVP.
(18:10):
If you just trying to screw me over. If you
like Drake May, you have to love Caleb Williams, there's
no choice. If you like Drake May, you have to
love Caleb Williams. Why because the numbers are about the same, right,
Usually MVP, Heisman Trophy, they're about numbers. But no one's
going crazy this year with thirty five touchdowns through ten weeks.
(18:32):
You're not getting that Drake May is having a really
good year. Obviously, Yes, Mahome's having a good year. Caleb
Williams numbers, line up his yardage, what he's responsible for.
All that lines up Caleb Williams. Four times this year.
The Bears are good. They're six and three. Right, so
that's a storyline that cuts through. The Bears are good.
They're six and three. Four times. Caleb Williams has won
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games for the Bears this year with last minute drive.
And I don't mean comeback because comeback as any time
a team is losing during again, oh it's a comeback win.
It was three to nothing in the first quarter. Comeback win.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Four times. He has won games with last minute drives
many different ways, whether it is scrambling when he has to,
making the right decisions, being smart with the football, taking
the chances downfield when he has to, like Colston Lovelin,
or checking down to a running back when he needs
to DeAndre Swift, making the right calls. They are scoring touchdowns,
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the kicking field goals. He's on the star path. He's
been on the star path. Ben Johnson was the right
guy for him. Just took a little bit of time.
Ben Johnson needed some time to get used to coaching
in the NFL. He seems to have gotten used to
that point right now. Nobody has the kind of wins
and the clutch performances at the end of a game
(19:51):
than Williams does. Other guys Baker Mayfield had a great
start to the season, boy Kaind hit the skids the
last few weeks. Williams is everything you expected him to be.
He just comes with a preset of baggage that some
people can't get past and can't get over the fact that, well,
he went to USC. Yeah, Heisman Trophy, but they didn't win.
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They underachieved. He paints his nails, he's hugging his mom.
He goes to the Bears. The Bears are terrible. They
blow games. They blow games by allowing hail Mary's Caleb
Williams is sacked a million times in the final six
weeks last year because the offensive line was playing I
think guys from the eighty five Bears who were seventy. So, yeah,
he comes with built in baggage, and I get that,
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but at some point you have to be an adult
and admit that, Okay, he's pretty good and it's not
like he's got a whole lifetime of underachieving it's been Yeah, senior,
your usc still won the Heisman, didn't win, still won
the Heisman. First year with the Bears, had a pretty
good year, didn't have Jaden Daniel's year, which is what
(20:59):
he's gonna get compared two. Okay, we're gonna move the
goalpost for Caleb Williams. Got to get used to that.
But even the most staunches of disbelievers, you have to
admit that this is the type of quarterback he is now.
For the six wins, he has pulled you out of it.
And yesterday was the best example. Two touchdowns, final four
and a half minutes running for touchdowns, knowing what to
do with the football. This guy is absolutely clutch. He's
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mister November. It should to be mister December. He taking
mister November away from Derek Jeter. Like like you want
to talk about MVPs in the NFL, you want to
list the quarterbacks have been playing really well. Caleb Williams
the last six weeks been better than almost anybody. And
he's done more for the Bears than Drake May has
done for the Patriots, who are playing with an incredible defense.
(21:43):
Right whoever they throw out there at running back is
is running the ball well. Now trady On Henderson looks
like he's the guy scoring a touchdown yesterday. Had time
to look back at the coaching staff. Do I tross
the answer to all? I go in to the end zone? Right?
You see, Mahomes has really good weapons, dragging the Chiefs
to it himself. But he's got really good weapons. And
now the Chiefs defense has become a top five, top
seven unit. The Bears defense is fine, right, but these
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other player, other quarterbacks, they got a little bit more
with them. Yes, Williams has a lot of the people
he needs weapons offensively, but now he's making it work.
Weeks when Roma Dunes doesn't catch a pass, they win.
Weeks when DJ Moore doesn't catch a pass, they win.
Weeks when Colson Loveland breaks out, they win. When Colson
Lovelan catches two passes, they win. When DeAndre Swift is good,
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they win. When he stinks, they win. Right, No, no matter,
no matter what happens, he plays to the right hand,
he gets the football in the right guy's places. He wins.
And you can't go past And I go back to
that at the clutch at the end of games. This
is what an MVP does, and this is what Caleb
Williams is doing. It's been fun, I mean, kind of
watching the development of it and certainly the coldest sac
nature of hot take nonsense in our forum. But it's
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the kind of thing that's not gonna work. It's never
gonna be on the same page with Ben Jonson's like, No,
it's a work in progress. Haleb Williams being asked to
do a lot of things. We talked about this, the
nuance of it, all that he hadn't been done before,
right playing from a play action well, he's tied for
second most in play action attempts on the year, things
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he had never done before at USC and certainly sure
as hell a year ago in the Eberflus world with
multiple coordinators, disappeared coaches and everything else that you're looking
at a circumstance and far different. And it's come along
faster than I thought. I thought it would be a
work in progress, that we'd get deep into the second
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half of the season. And this is where for Caleb
Williams as a one hundred and fifty to one long
shot as we sit here on a Monday night, the
end of Week ten versus Drake Mays three to one.
Drake May's accounted for five more touchdowns passed for about
four hundred more yards than Caleb Williams at this point
in the season. Well, Drake May continues to have an
(23:54):
easy schedule going forward based on the current records of
the teams that he will play going forward. Caleb Williams
has the hardest schedule in the National Football League remaining.
So the opportunity if he continues on this path, this
trajectory and the good things that we've seen from this squad.
He's taking far fewer sacks, He's getting the ball out
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on time in rhythm to myriad wide receivers when targeting.
Luther Burden, another a rookie that's stepping forward Loveland. We've
seen more of Coole Comet left with the concussion, so
we'll hopefully see him back in so you get the
full compliment of receivers for the Bears. But with Caleb
Williams not taking the sacks that was the biggest thing
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last year. Part of that was a terrible offensive line.
Well they went and upgraded greatly in the offseason. Is
the one thing I can pat Ryan Poles on the
back for was they went and found three offensive linemen
that grade out very well. But it's also Caleb Williams
being smart enough to realize, you know what, these NFL
defenders are fast. I'm not out running these guys, so
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I'm not going to try to extend plays unnecess We
live to fight another down. So those metrics all down
the ability to push the ball down field. Last year,
the shot chart was abysmal, minus five behind the line
of scrimmage, five yards ahead of it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That was most of his past attempts. They're not, you know,
haphazardly throwing the ball down field, but stretching it more necessarily.
And you got the buy in of these wide receivers
into the run game, like Romadonsay. When he doesn't get
a bunch of pass attempts his dad, he may be mad,
but not he's not. This week, Roma Doonsay was better
(25:36):
part of the offense. As they go and they get
the comeback win over the Giants, he's got an opportunity
to go and make his case, and I like getting
at this point in the season, we're going to the
second half. Drake may is the decided favorite. He'll play
your Jets on Thursday night to continue that candidacy. But
for Caleb Williams putting the spotlight on what's been done
(25:58):
and the job to be done. Certainly, if he were
to navigate this successfully lead the Bears to a division
title over Green Bay or Detroit, then yeah, you can
make that argument for sure. Caleb Williams, NFL MVP. Just
roll around in your head, say it a few times. Coo,
it says, coming off your mat of Caleb Williams. Yeah,
(26:19):
NFL MVP Caleb Williams, NFL MVP. Caleb Williams had this
to say. NFL MVP Caleb Williams had an appearance today
at Toys r US. Yeah, you know, just kidding a
lot of free hot dogs because every time they win,
there's a lot of people getting on board that. So
he's feeding the city, no question about it. But one
hundred and fifty to one, they were eight to one
to win the division before this week's games. NFL MVP
(26:41):
Keleb Williams apologized to DJ Moore for not throwing him
a pass this week and ruining some of Jason Smith's
fantasy teams because DJ Moore didn't get a target and
he also had Garrett Wilson on his team, who didn't
catch your pass either? He got hurt? Yeah, no I
did and that was out for a month. So doesn't matter.
We don't throw the ball, So what does it matter? Fifty?
What was it? Fifty one yards the Jets. He's got
four wins with fifty one or fewer passing yards? Is right?
(27:05):
The Jets may run fifty running plays on Thursday night,
no matter what the score is. Fire up, Isaiah Davis,
get ready, get ready? File Isaiah Davis, and they're gonna
tell Justin Fields, Hey, it's too short a week to
make a quarterback change because you really stunk Sunday, but
you are gonna have a lot of quarterback runs on Thursday.
Justin get ready? Could Curtis Martin get back out there
(27:26):
with that jaunty little hat exit out about a Fresco
exit swelling down The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon Time how to find out what's trending
in the wide world. The sportsman guy who's going to
keep track of every Jets pass attempt on Thursday night,
all three of them.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Steve de Seger, you know, he had like twelve yards
passing going to the fourth quarter. One screen pass triples
the yardage. Nobody will remember it was just a screen pass.
And then what do we have this NFL weekend? We
started Thursday night with a ten to seven game a
Rembrandt Broncos over the Raiders, and then we finish the
weekend with a ten to seven game tonight.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, don't forget, We're not done. Jets Patriots continues the
week the Jets. Technically it's a new week It's the
Jets on network television in front of God and everybody.
They get to play a game on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
The Eagles led three nothing early fourth quarter tonight. People,
And these are two primetime games. I'm talking about Thursday.
It's a primetime slump. Man Networks run.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
They need to have an executive's only meeting to try
to get out of these network game slumps in them
and the streaming slumps. They can I.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Flex out of these games after the fact. I don't
know if there's a way we could, like back to
the future style, get out of these. But there had
been in primetime NFL games only two of these ten
to seven finals in the last twenty five years. And
then we have exactly ten to five seven finals twice
this weekend. So the Green Bay Packers lose at home,
(28:55):
they're five three and one and here at lambeau Field,
when they held their opponents to ten points or last,
they'd won sixty six straight long games. The last time
this such a loss happened was in nineteen ninety one
against the Bears and quarterback Jim Harbaugh. The Packers this year,
in the three losses, have allowed just thirty nine total
(29:18):
points and seven hundred and eighty total yards in those
three losses, first team since nineteen forty to do that.
With their first three defeats of the season, the Giants
fired coach Brian Dables. Speaking of defeats, the Giants record
over the past two and a half years is eleven
and thirty three, including two to eight this season. The
interim coach is now offensive coordinator Mike Kafka. General manager
(29:41):
Joe Shane Stays. Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow hopes to return
on Thanksgiving. He's been out with a tow injury. Returned
to limited practice today. Jets wide receiver Garrett Wilson could
miss at least three to four weeks with a spring
name no problem that passing attack is in good hands.
Washington head coach Dan Quinn is taking over defensive coordinator
(30:01):
duties as well. Washington's lost five straight. They'll play in
Madrid this Sunday against the Dolphins. Commander's defensive lineman de
Ron Payne was suspended one game for throwing a punch.
The American League Rookie of the Year is Nick Kurtz
of the A's. He got every first place vote, all
thirty and shortstop Jacob Wilson of the A's finished second
in the voting. The National League Rookie of the Year
(30:21):
Braves catcher Drake Baldwin finishing second, and it was twenty
one votes to nine finishing second Cubs pitcher Kate Horton.
The Big MLB Award results continue Tuesday with Managers of
the Year Wednesday, the.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Same way TJ did. Horton hear who won and it
wasn't him. There is at jacare okay somewhere.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Wednesday the cy Young winners, and then Thursday we'll find
out the MVPs in the Al Willoughby cal Raley or
Aaron Judge. The Padres officially introduced new manager Craig Stammin,
a former reliever of theirs. The Giants hired former manager
Bruce Bochie as special advisor NHL overtime wins for the
Islanders and Edmonton in the NBA game Some Thrills. Tonight
(31:07):
in overtime, Detroit beat Washington won thirty seven one thirty
five Wizards one to ten. This year, Kay Cunningham forty
six points in the win for the Pistons on fourteen
of forty five shooting from the floor. As we mentioned
Muster much earlier in the show, those thirty one miss
shots the most by any player in an NBA game
(31:27):
since the merger with the ABA in nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Alan Iverson never missed more than that in a game.
Carmelo Anthony never missed more. Where's the name I was expecting.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
I don't doubt that they took forty five shots, okay
in a game, Okay, all right, But to miss thirty
one out of forty five shots a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
That is quite a bit. That's a lot.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
I mean, I know it's overtime at all, but most
times you have four teammates on the floor.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Et set, some point you realize, hey, it's not my night,
that's right. It seems like a great night. But the
Wizard almost beat us okay, and they're one in fifty,
so maybe a couple of less shots we would have
won a little bit soon.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
How often do you hear score say, hey, shooters got
to shoot okay, But when it gets to forty five attempts, yeah,
I don't know. Orlando b Portland one fifteen, one twelve
on a three.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
At the buzzer.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Miami won an overtime on an alley up at the
buzzer against Cleveland. Lakers won at Charlotte thirty eight points
for Luka Donzich. San Antonio won at Chicago thirty eight
points for Victor Webb, min Yama. Milwaukee won by two
at Dallas thirty points for Jannis Antinecumpo victories for Phoenix,
Minnesota and Atlanta. Took the Lake game in LA one
oh five, one oh two over the Clippers. James Harden
(32:40):
thirty five points in a triple double. Back to you,
Thank you, Steve O.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Now, not to say you know, hey, cause I don't
like to remind you when I say things, but who
were the two teams I gave you as the long
shot NBA Finals teams in the Western Conference In the
Eastern Conference, Right, I gave you the Spurs in the West. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
What did I get in the East? I gave you No,
I didn't give you the bulls. I wish I gave
you the bulls. I gave you the Pistons. Who's in
first place in the Eastern Conference right now at nine
and two? The Pistons. Yeah, but that elbows going off?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Man?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Watch out, man, I'm telling you, watch out. Look at
the Could you imagine the Pistons if we have Piston
Spurs in the finals if I had bet that, I
think you should still bet it now. Yeah, I think
you're ron. I can still get big odds with it.
Still get decent odds on that awesome exit about a
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Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight the Jason Smith Show
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E's thick ty shirt like plans when to play that,
Like she's got really good timing with that, like realactly
(00:50):
good timing. Yeah, that's that's pretty good. Uh So, Monday
Night football goes to the Eagles in a game that
was four quarters. The game ended, we had a winner
and a loser. It reminds me of those old promos.
You go back and hear live Guns and Roses tracks
(01:13):
from back in the day and they have the guy
come out on stage. He's like, of all the beds
in the world, this is one of them from Hollywood, California.
Same thing here. Of all the NFL games on your slate,
that's why this was one of them. You know, I've
worked with a lot of people in radio and you're
one of them. Nah. I may or may not have
(01:34):
dropped that line before, but like we like to say
here on the show, it doesn't matter if a game
is good. It just matters that it's close. And we
kind of made a deal with the football gods after
the third quarter. You and I said, hey, if you
bring us something good in the fourth quarter, we can
forget about the first three quarters.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
How bad.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
They know. That's right, I can celebrate the hell out
of that final final Stanza as it were the final act.
So give us something, and you know what the football
god said, I think that's a fair deal. Thank you
very much. I will do that for you. What do
we have to offer in sacrifice for Thursday Night? No, Well,
I think they felt bad because we're in a big
(02:14):
network slump where last week was Broncos Raiders, which was awful,
Tonight was awful, Thursday is the Jets and the Patriots,
which is awful. And from hell, I mean really NFL schedule, like, hey,
look I'm getting to the Jets on National TV. But
I'm like, whose idea was it that thought it was
gonna be a good idea to put the Jets on
week eleven, Like you gotta put the Jets on week
(02:36):
two when people still think there's hope? Well, because what
five and a half on Man four and a half
for him? You can't put Jets Patriots on week eleven.
You didn't think the Patriot's going to be this good?
You got lucky, You got lucky, the Patriots are this good,
but you put you can't put the Jets on week
Let you put the Jets on like week two week
unless you were promising me like a return of Tom
Brady or something like we're asking for me. Rob Gronkowski
(02:58):
said he's gonna do the ceremonial track. No, no, no, you
have to play Thursday. You're you're ask for people and
not watch the game. Yeah, no, I can't make it.
You can't make it. No, I can't make it. Can't
make it. So we wound up getting what we wanted
with the most ridiculous coaching decision made by Nick Sirianni
that I wanted to see the Packers tie this game
(03:18):
just so we had to eat it. The Eagles have
the ball a ten to seven lead with less than
a minute left to go. They're facing a fourth and
six or seven from the packers thirty five yard line
six seven six seven six seven, a fourth down in
between six and seven yards from the Packers thirty five
yard line. Now there are three choices. If you are
(03:42):
the Eagles, you can kick a field goal fifty to
give you a thirteen to seven lead, but it is
risky because if you miss, the Packers will have twenty
five seconds to get about twenty yards where they could
kick a field goals. Into overtime, you could punt, which
is the right call because the Packers are out of timeouts.
(04:02):
You'd give him the ball probably somewhere inside the twenty
yard line. Let then not all the way down to
the goal, but let's just say fifteen yard line, pooch
pont cough, coffin corner. Whatever. Yeah. Then with less than
twenty five seconds left, the Packers would have to get
forty yards to be able to kick a field goal.
Probably not happening. That's the right call given.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The way this game has gone.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Uh, I think that's probably a pretty good odds they're
not getting those forty plus yards. Yeah, third choice is
to go for it on fourth down. Okay, okay, that's
the worst choice. That's the choice Nick Sirianni made. I'm
gonna go for it on fourth down, which was stupid,
which is fine, but like once you open that door,
now we get to the drop down. Man, good for
(04:44):
us because it was fun. This gave us something to
talk about. He was Nick Sirianni doing something stupid. I'm
going for it on fourth down and six or seven
from the thirty five, not fourth and one, not fourth
Now I can run the toush push. No fourth and six.
I'm gonna go for it, which is stupid. Now, okay,
you've made that bad decision, all right, Now what can
you do here on fourth down? Well, let's see. We
(05:05):
could get the ball to Saquon doesn't have to come
off the field. Okay. We could throw it to DeVante
Smith sure had a good day touchdown. He's our best receiver. Yeah,
I'm sure he's your leader and everything go to Dallas Goddard.
He's made big catches. You could do that, right, those shames.
I could throw it to aj Brown, but probably that's
your last choice, right, But six targets on the day.
(05:27):
So you've warmed him up, you have the whole field.
You can use all of these things, right, So, okay,
the worst quarterback draw, Yeah, yeah, we're Jalen Hurts gets
a Shigne run. Hey, run, You have all those choices.
The worst choice would be throwing it to AJ Brown
with all the difficulties at this year. But ya's what
Nick Sirianni said, Let's do that, right, So the OC
(05:50):
dials up a fifty to fifty jump ball play for
AJ Brown inside the ten yard line. Owing to our
conversation of last hour, boy, I really wish I could
have got some real time prop bets for what that
fourth down call was gonna be. All of this, all
of these choices they made. No, no, we're gonna make
the worst ones ever, right. But Tulo makes the call,
(06:11):
and I'm sure Sirianni said, yeah, go ahead, let's run it.
They throw a fifty to fifty ball downfield. That okay,
right away, that play call is a win for the defense.
Fifty to fifty. Yeah, we're good with that. We're good
with that. You have a lot of weapons on the
offense here, We're good with that. We're good You don't
and they throw it up and it doesn't give him
a chance, so they turned the ball over to the Packers,
(06:32):
who can't get far enough down the field. In the
last second attempt by Brandon McManus is no good. They
tried one a couple of plays before, but the Eagles
call time out. McManus still went through with the kick,
saw that he couldn't make it. The Packers tried to
run one more play. They couldn't, so then they trot
McManus out for a second try at it. He misses
it even worse and the pat and the Eagles escape
(06:55):
ten to seven. Doesn't take over it take away from
the fact that this was a ridiculously bad call made
by Nick Siriot, which is why even though they won.
I can't trust the Eagles. I can't trust them because
they have one foot on the banana peel at all times.
Pump the ball win the game. No, no, no, let's
go for it, because I want to win with a flourish.
(07:16):
I want to win where like making a move now.
I don't want to win meekly. I want to win
with a flourish. Well, you almost lost the game, and
I really wish the Packers had gotten overtime and Nick
Sirianni had to eat it, but he got lucky. But
it doesn't. But that's why I can't believe in the Eagles,
because they always have one foot on the banana peel
at all times. There are always one step away from disaster,
and that clearly he showed that tonight. We are one step.
(07:40):
I can show you how one bad coaching decision that
me and the OC make and we are on that
road into absolute desperation. We have our foot right on
that peel, ready to slip and fall well through the
ball to Brown. Valentine was there. He did not allow
your options to cash, much like in trading play. Is
(08:00):
that good too old? I don't know. Hey, they said,
TJ feeling good defensively, Yes, TJ looking good defensively. Yeah.
He hit him square in the back. He never run
to look for the ball, but it doesn't matter. The
ball falls harmlessly incomplete. Now Sirianni and his post game said, hey,
you know what, I wanted to be aggressive there. I
want to do to that, and fine, you know that
(08:23):
that's the option. But we went through this entire drop
down menu of all at the different play joints. I
would have rather run the toush push yeah, right, and
if nothing else, you keep the legs churning. All of
a sudden, you got Look, this was the team that
challenged it, right, Yeah, was this not the opportunity to
do the double gird But even if you don't get it,
(08:43):
it's the double burd up.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And look at how we're going to finish this game.
Yeah jerks.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, and then you let your defense go do what
it needed to if you didn't get the seven yards,
But say you did. You want to talk about demoralizing
a team on their home field. Could have run it
four times if you're just gonna run off.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
They gave it to Barkley the first three plays. Run
the touch put run four times. Just try to do
it like here we are here was like a tank
and the wheels and the we're gonna grind you down
over four plays like this. Now, obviously Lane Johnson had
been hurt. He came back in to finish the job.
So maybe you're you're not as feeling as plucky about
(09:20):
doing that. But if the whole thing is about intestinal
fortitude and showing it and sticking it to them, because
we want to be the hard guys would what better
play than the one that they tried to get out lawed.
Here's Sirianni. Here's about a minute of Sirianni explaining his
play call in the fourth quarter game, going for it
when punting would have won the game.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
So the end of the the end of the game,
you know, we're saying we're up three, and I would
have liked to be in a little closer to kick
a field goal. But the closer we would have got
the more. Again, you play every situation a little bit differently,
but I didn't want I think we were it was
(10:04):
into the wind on that one. I knew the kick
would have had to be a little bit lower trajectory of
a kick on that. On that particular one, I got
a lot of faith in our offense. It didn't work
out on this one, you know, uh, you know we
we we just didn't. We just didn't get it. But
the decision I stand put on that decision, you know,
(10:27):
especially being up three, because you go up six, they're
still going to need a touchdown in hell Mary everything
like that. So we would ended the game if we
would have got that. And then got a lot of
faith in our guys to be able to do that.
But the reason I didn't kick the field goal again
being up three, and also just this trajectory into the
wind there on that particular.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
One, Why didn't you put Why didn't you putt? Forget
about the field, you should have punted. It was hard
to go through all the and he does I feel
really conconfident about that, through all the ums and errs
and oh we wanted No, he knows that he screwed up,
but I'm not gonna admit it. I'd rather him just say,
you know what, we went for it because I trust
the offense. That's why we did it.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Own it.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
If you're really gonna own it, my offense, and we've
done a good job defensively against level. Trust Jalen, I
trust aj Brown, I trust our guys to get it done.
Just say that instead of well with because you should
have punted. The punting is gonna. I know it seems
like a weird way to win joeby, but you weren't.
You weren't running thinking you're gonna get the first down.
(11:27):
You ran three plays to the middle of the field.
It's not like you had some sort of really great
creative play call and it's gonna get you a first
down where you're running the football. You're trying to just
we're gonna take it's not working for our offense. We're
trying to take time off the clock, and we're gonna
give them the ball back with however little time possible
there is there. Right, you got a bush bush four times.
I didn't buy anything that, Sirianni. It all out to
(11:50):
the kicking game and the wins and whatever else like
either either say you really believed your defense would finish
if they needed to, or really back what Jalen hurts
in the offense we're doing, even though offensively had been
a disaster except for one throw to DeVante Smith. All
night it was an absolute disaster, and he's lucky that
(12:11):
it didn't turn out worse. But that's that's part of
the thing with the Eagles and the Packers and the Bills,
right these teams we talk about that I can't trust,
is that it goes further than okay, here's a bad
coaching decision. It's not just that it's these teams Suddenly
you can't trust them to score despite the fact they
have the highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL. The Bills
(12:34):
can't score and they have Josh Allen. The Eagles can't
score and they got Jalen Hurts. Right, Jordan Love has
paid fifty million dollars a year, and these are teams
that can't throw the football down the field and put
up stinkers way too often for the talent they have
at quarterback. Trust them. I saw a step for the
Packers that in seven of their games they've scored seven
(12:56):
or fewer points in the first half. No good, no good.
These teams should be scored if you're losing, I get it.
But when you're losing because your offense can't score, no, not.
When you're now, when you have fifty million dollars year quarterbacks,
you should be scoring some points. Not and and not
nearly to the extent where every three weeks we say, wow,
that was a stinker. Twice a year. I get you
(13:17):
have a stinker. It's a long time in the NFL,
eighteen weeks or seventeen weeks, a long time to get
through sixteen games. But when you have these teams each
have three stinkers already, I can't trust them as contenders.
I trust the Rams more. I trust the Seahawks more.
I even trust the Chiefs more and I don't even
think they're gonna win the division, and I trust them
more than I trust those teams. The Refs now, they
do have they do have the reus. They do have
(13:38):
the rev I mean holiday season, the refs do get
a little bit generous season for them, holiday holiday, holiday holiday.
But I mean with the packers, right, three losses, I
mean they've given up only what is it, thirty nine
forty points. It's it's a minimal number, that's all finding good.
If your offense can't get the job done, then then
it doesn't matter. Exit up about a Fresco exit Swallowing
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Eagles over the Packers ten to seven. The lesson about
that game, the better true. Understand that we have football
Thursday night. We're gonna watch it, so I need to
know that's it, that's it, and sell it. NFL one
(15:21):
of two seventy two. They're running out people, But what's
the game. Doesn't matter. That there's football on Thursday night
doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. You'll get to see Drake May
Thursday night. There you go, sell the hell out of
MVP baby May. Yeah. Now, I'm glad you brought up
Drake May. Right. The last twenty four hours has been
full of a lot of MVP talk in the NFL,
(15:42):
and the two big names you're hearing the most out
of well with Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs being on
a buy has been Drake May and Matthew Stafford, both
one more guy, both having great years. Right, Jonathan Taylor
Jonathan Taylor as well. But he's a running back. He's
not gonna win. Sorry, Oh is that just one?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Was that too? Dare you?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Two? BLUs?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
He's fifty, dad, he's a running back. Somebody's putting a
bunch of money in sa Kwon Barkley ran for two
thousand yards last year, didn't win MVP. He's not winning.
I'm sorry, he's not winning. I don't know what kind
of year you have to have if you can run
for two thousand yards and not, I don't know what
kind of year you have to have as a running back. You,
Sarah get a silver medal? Yeah, that's great. Here you
tell you're getting you did even finished seconds?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No, he did.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Not not even close. Well that's great, that's awesome. That's great.
That's deal with reality. The two names hearing a lot
of it, and yes, Drake May has been terrific. I
have to come around to it. We'll get into the
Patriots over the course of this week. I have around.
The Patriots are good, Drake May is good. I'd like
to sit Tampa game.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Sold you. I'd like to.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Now they're good. You hated them and they're scheduling everything
about them. Yeah, no, but Drake May, I can't. I can't.
You know, I don't think he's the MVP, but he
is having a good year. He hated the little guy
on the side of the helmet. Good, come on, pat Patriot,
the memories of grunk House and now Matthew Stafford's getting
a lot of run rightfully, So Rams are the best
(17:05):
team in the NFC, maybe the best team in football.
Stafford's on a heat. Did you see he's up to
five hundred for his career record down Yeah, yeah, one
hundred and fifteen, one hundred and fifteen and one. That
was I think that was Eli Manning's career record was
like one fifteen and one fourteen, one game over. I
want to say he's one game over five hundred for
his career, like that's Eli's record winner. But when you
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win two Super Bowls and you beat Brady twice. Okay,
So so Stafford getting a lot of run, rightfully, So
Stafford's having a great year. But I want to throw
this at YouTube. If you really want to talk about MVP, Okay,
I'm gonna give you a guy that we talked about
beginning of the season, saying he's on the path to
start him. Everything is fine, Gonna take his team a
(17:49):
little bit to figure it out, but everything is fine.
The era of good feeling is here and now everybody
wants to jump on the band. Go No, I always
thought he was good. No stop, we told the beginning
of things are gonna be good. You want to talk
about MVP, Bears quarterback Caleb Williams, think about NFL MVP.
(18:10):
If you just trying to screw me over. If you
like Drake May, you have to love Caleb Williams, there's
no choice. If you like Drake May, you have to
love Caleb Williams. Why because the numbers are about the same, right,
Usually MVP, Heisman Trophy, they're about numbers. But no one's
going crazy this year with thirty five touchdowns through ten weeks.
(18:32):
You're not getting that Drake May is having a really
good year. Obviously, Yes, Mahome's having a good year. Caleb
Williams numbers, line up his yardage, what he's responsible for.
All that lines up Caleb Williams. Four times this year.
The Bears are good. They're six and three. Right, so
that's a storyline that cuts through. The Bears are good.
They're six and three. Four times. Caleb Williams has won
(18:55):
games for the Bears this year with last minute drive.
And I don't mean comeback because comeback as any time
a team is losing during again, oh it's a comeback win.
It was three to nothing in the first quarter. Comeback win.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Four times. He has won games with last minute drives
many different ways, whether it is scrambling when he has to,
making the right decisions, being smart with the football, taking
the chances downfield when he has to, like Colston Lovelin,
or checking down to a running back when he needs
to DeAndre Swift, making the right calls. They are scoring touchdowns,
(19:29):
the kicking field goals. He's on the star path. He's
been on the star path. Ben Johnson was the right
guy for him. Just took a little bit of time.
Ben Johnson needed some time to get used to coaching
in the NFL. He seems to have gotten used to
that point right now. Nobody has the kind of wins
and the clutch performances at the end of a game
(19:51):
than Williams does. Other guys Baker Mayfield had a great
start to the season, boy Kaind hit the skids the
last few weeks. Williams is everything you expected him to be.
He just comes with a preset of baggage that some
people can't get past and can't get over the fact that, well,
he went to USC. Yeah, Heisman Trophy, but they didn't win.
(20:15):
They underachieved. He paints his nails, he's hugging his mom.
He goes to the Bears. The Bears are terrible. They
blow games. They blow games by allowing hail Mary's Caleb
Williams is sacked a million times in the final six
weeks last year because the offensive line was playing I
think guys from the eighty five Bears who were seventy. So, yeah,
he comes with built in baggage, and I get that,
(20:37):
but at some point you have to be an adult
and admit that, Okay, he's pretty good and it's not
like he's got a whole lifetime of underachieving it's been Yeah, senior,
your usc still won the Heisman, didn't win, still won
the Heisman. First year with the Bears, had a pretty
good year, didn't have Jaden Daniel's year, which is what
(20:59):
he's gonna get compared two. Okay, we're gonna move the
goalpost for Caleb Williams. Got to get used to that.
But even the most staunches of disbelievers, you have to
admit that this is the type of quarterback he is now.
For the six wins, he has pulled you out of it.
And yesterday was the best example. Two touchdowns, final four
and a half minutes running for touchdowns, knowing what to
do with the football. This guy is absolutely clutch. He's
(21:21):
mister November. It should to be mister December. He taking
mister November away from Derek Jeter. Like like you want
to talk about MVPs in the NFL, you want to
list the quarterbacks have been playing really well. Caleb Williams
the last six weeks been better than almost anybody. And
he's done more for the Bears than Drake May has
done for the Patriots, who are playing with an incredible defense.
(21:43):
Right whoever they throw out there at running back is
is running the ball well. Now trady On Henderson looks
like he's the guy scoring a touchdown yesterday. Had time
to look back at the coaching staff. Do I tross
the answer to all? I go in to the end zone? Right?
You see, Mahomes has really good weapons, dragging the Chiefs
to it himself. But he's got really good weapons. And
now the Chiefs defense has become a top five, top
seven unit. The Bears defense is fine, right, but these
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other player, other quarterbacks, they got a little bit more
with them. Yes, Williams has a lot of the people
he needs weapons offensively, but now he's making it work.
Weeks when Roma Dunes doesn't catch a pass, they win.
Weeks when DJ Moore doesn't catch a pass, they win.
Weeks when Colson Loveland breaks out, they win. When Colson
Lovelan catches two passes, they win. When DeAndre Swift is good,
(22:26):
they win. When he stinks, they win. Right, No, no matter,
no matter what happens, he plays to the right hand,
he gets the football in the right guy's places. He wins.
And you can't go past And I go back to
that at the clutch at the end of games. This
is what an MVP does, and this is what Caleb
Williams is doing. It's been fun, I mean, kind of
watching the development of it and certainly the coldest sac
nature of hot take nonsense in our forum. But it's
(22:52):
the kind of thing that's not gonna work. It's never
gonna be on the same page with Ben Jonson's like, No,
it's a work in progress. Haleb Williams being asked to
do a lot of things. We talked about this, the
nuance of it, all that he hadn't been done before,
right playing from a play action well, he's tied for
second most in play action attempts on the year, things
(23:13):
he had never done before at USC and certainly sure
as hell a year ago in the Eberflus world with
multiple coordinators, disappeared coaches and everything else that you're looking
at a circumstance and far different. And it's come along
faster than I thought. I thought it would be a
work in progress, that we'd get deep into the second
(23:33):
half of the season. And this is where for Caleb
Williams as a one hundred and fifty to one long
shot as we sit here on a Monday night, the
end of Week ten versus Drake Mays three to one.
Drake May's accounted for five more touchdowns passed for about
four hundred more yards than Caleb Williams at this point
in the season. Well, Drake May continues to have an
(23:54):
easy schedule going forward based on the current records of
the teams that he will play going forward. Caleb Williams
has the hardest schedule in the National Football League remaining.
So the opportunity if he continues on this path, this
trajectory and the good things that we've seen from this squad.
He's taking far fewer sacks, He's getting the ball out
(24:16):
on time in rhythm to myriad wide receivers when targeting.
Luther Burden, another a rookie that's stepping forward Loveland. We've
seen more of Coole Comet left with the concussion, so
we'll hopefully see him back in so you get the
full compliment of receivers for the Bears. But with Caleb
Williams not taking the sacks that was the biggest thing
(24:36):
last year. Part of that was a terrible offensive line.
Well they went and upgraded greatly in the offseason. Is
the one thing I can pat Ryan Poles on the
back for was they went and found three offensive linemen
that grade out very well. But it's also Caleb Williams
being smart enough to realize, you know what, these NFL
defenders are fast. I'm not out running these guys, so
(24:57):
I'm not going to try to extend plays unnecess We
live to fight another down. So those metrics all down
the ability to push the ball down field. Last year,
the shot chart was abysmal, minus five behind the line
of scrimmage, five yards ahead of it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That was most of his past attempts. They're not, you know,
haphazardly throwing the ball down field, but stretching it more necessarily.
And you got the buy in of these wide receivers
into the run game, like Romadonsay. When he doesn't get
a bunch of pass attempts his dad, he may be mad,
but not he's not. This week, Roma Doonsay was better
(25:36):
part of the offense. As they go and they get
the comeback win over the Giants, he's got an opportunity
to go and make his case, and I like getting
at this point in the season, we're going to the
second half. Drake may is the decided favorite. He'll play
your Jets on Thursday night to continue that candidacy. But
for Caleb Williams putting the spotlight on what's been done
(25:58):
and the job to be done. Certainly, if he were
to navigate this successfully lead the Bears to a division
title over Green Bay or Detroit, then yeah, you can
make that argument for sure. Caleb Williams, NFL MVP. Just
roll around in your head, say it a few times. Coo,
it says, coming off your mat of Caleb Williams. Yeah,
(26:19):
NFL MVP Caleb Williams, NFL MVP. Caleb Williams had this
to say. NFL MVP Caleb Williams had an appearance today
at Toys r US. Yeah, you know, just kidding a
lot of free hot dogs because every time they win,
there's a lot of people getting on board that. So
he's feeding the city, no question about it. But one
hundred and fifty to one, they were eight to one
to win the division before this week's games. NFL MVP
(26:41):
Keleb Williams apologized to DJ Moore for not throwing him
a pass this week and ruining some of Jason Smith's
fantasy teams because DJ Moore didn't get a target and
he also had Garrett Wilson on his team, who didn't
catch your pass either? He got hurt? Yeah, no I
did and that was out for a month. So doesn't matter.
We don't throw the ball, So what does it matter? Fifty?
What was it? Fifty one yards the Jets. He's got
four wins with fifty one or fewer passing yards? Is right?
(27:05):
The Jets may run fifty running plays on Thursday night,
no matter what the score is. Fire up, Isaiah Davis,
get ready, get ready? File Isaiah Davis, and they're gonna
tell Justin Fields, Hey, it's too short a week to
make a quarterback change because you really stunk Sunday, but
you are gonna have a lot of quarterback runs on Thursday.
Justin get ready? Could Curtis Martin get back out there
(27:26):
with that jaunty little hat exit out about a Fresco
exit swelling down The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon Time how to find out what's trending
in the wide world. The sportsman guy who's going to
keep track of every Jets pass attempt on Thursday night,
all three of them.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Steve de Seger, you know, he had like twelve yards
passing going to the fourth quarter. One screen pass triples
the yardage. Nobody will remember it was just a screen pass.
And then what do we have this NFL weekend? We
started Thursday night with a ten to seven game a
Rembrandt Broncos over the Raiders, and then we finish the
weekend with a ten to seven game tonight.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, don't forget, We're not done. Jets Patriots continues the
week the Jets. Technically it's a new week It's the
Jets on network television in front of God and everybody.
They get to play a game on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
The Eagles led three nothing early fourth quarter tonight. People,
And these are two primetime games. I'm talking about Thursday.
It's a primetime slump. Man Networks run.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
They need to have an executive's only meeting to try
to get out of these network game slumps in them
and the streaming slumps. They can I.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Flex out of these games after the fact. I don't
know if there's a way we could, like back to
the future style, get out of these. But there had
been in primetime NFL games only two of these ten
to seven finals in the last twenty five years. And
then we have exactly ten to five seven finals twice
this weekend. So the Green Bay Packers lose at home,
(28:55):
they're five three and one and here at lambeau Field,
when they held their opponents to ten points or last,
they'd won sixty six straight long games. The last time
this such a loss happened was in nineteen ninety one
against the Bears and quarterback Jim Harbaugh. The Packers this year,
in the three losses, have allowed just thirty nine total
(29:18):
points and seven hundred and eighty total yards in those
three losses, first team since nineteen forty to do that.
With their first three defeats of the season, the Giants
fired coach Brian Dables. Speaking of defeats, the Giants record
over the past two and a half years is eleven
and thirty three, including two to eight this season. The
interim coach is now offensive coordinator Mike Kafka. General manager
(29:41):
Joe Shane Stays. Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow hopes to return
on Thanksgiving. He's been out with a tow injury. Returned
to limited practice today. Jets wide receiver Garrett Wilson could
miss at least three to four weeks with a spring
name no problem that passing attack is in good hands.
Washington head coach Dan Quinn is taking over defensive coordinator
(30:01):
duties as well. Washington's lost five straight. They'll play in
Madrid this Sunday against the Dolphins. Commander's defensive lineman de
Ron Payne was suspended one game for throwing a punch.
The American League Rookie of the Year is Nick Kurtz
of the A's. He got every first place vote, all
thirty and shortstop Jacob Wilson of the A's finished second
in the voting. The National League Rookie of the Year
(30:21):
Braves catcher Drake Baldwin finishing second, and it was twenty
one votes to nine finishing second Cubs pitcher Kate Horton.
The Big MLB Award results continue Tuesday with Managers of
the Year Wednesday, the.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Same way TJ did. Horton hear who won and it
wasn't him. There is at jacare okay somewhere.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Wednesday the cy Young winners, and then Thursday we'll find
out the MVPs in the Al Willoughby cal Raley or
Aaron Judge. The Padres officially introduced new manager Craig Stammin,
a former reliever of theirs. The Giants hired former manager
Bruce Bochie as special advisor NHL overtime wins for the
Islanders and Edmonton in the NBA game Some Thrills. Tonight
(31:07):
in overtime, Detroit beat Washington won thirty seven one thirty
five Wizards one to ten. This year, Kay Cunningham forty
six points in the win for the Pistons on fourteen
of forty five shooting from the floor. As we mentioned
Muster much earlier in the show, those thirty one miss
shots the most by any player in an NBA game
(31:27):
since the merger with the ABA in nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Alan Iverson never missed more than that in a game.
Carmelo Anthony never missed more. Where's the name I was expecting.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
I don't doubt that they took forty five shots, okay
in a game, Okay, all right, But to miss thirty
one out of forty five shots a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
That is quite a bit. That's a lot.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
I mean, I know it's overtime at all, but most
times you have four teammates on the floor.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Et set, some point you realize, hey, it's not my night,
that's right. It seems like a great night. But the
Wizard almost beat us okay, and they're one in fifty,
so maybe a couple of less shots we would have
won a little bit soon.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
How often do you hear score say, hey, shooters got
to shoot okay, But when it gets to forty five attempts, yeah,
I don't know. Orlando b Portland one fifteen, one twelve
on a three.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
At the buzzer.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Miami won an overtime on an alley up at the
buzzer against Cleveland. Lakers won at Charlotte thirty eight points
for Luka Donzich. San Antonio won at Chicago thirty eight
points for Victor Webb, min Yama. Milwaukee won by two
at Dallas thirty points for Jannis Antinecumpo victories for Phoenix,
Minnesota and Atlanta. Took the Lake game in LA one
oh five, one oh two over the Clippers. James Harden
(32:40):
thirty five points in a triple double. Back to you,
Thank you, Steve O.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Now, not to say you know, hey, cause I don't
like to remind you when I say things, but who
were the two teams I gave you as the long
shot NBA Finals teams in the Western Conference In the
Eastern Conference, Right, I gave you the Spurs in the West. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
What did I get in the East? I gave you No,
I didn't give you the bulls. I wish I gave
you the bulls. I gave you the Pistons. Who's in
first place in the Eastern Conference right now at nine
and two? The Pistons. Yeah, but that elbows going off?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Man?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Watch out, man, I'm telling you, watch out. Look at
the Could you imagine the Pistons if we have Piston
Spurs in the finals if I had bet that, I
think you should still bet it now. Yeah, I think
you're ron. I can still get big odds with it.
Still get decent odds on that awesome exit about a
Fresco exit swolling down The Jason Smith Show with my
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