December 11, 2024 • 35 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether or not Bill Belichick accepting the North Carolina head coaching job is most about turning his son Steve into a nepotism hire for the future, tell us the biggest reason why NBA television ratings have fallen off a cliff the last few years and discuss whether we should expect Belichick will be a success at UNC.
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
The news of the Days. It's there, rob G, you
want to jump in. Bill Belichick is going to be
announced tomorrow. I guess as the new head coach of
North Carolina football, not basketball.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I'm just a football rob G. We got a little details.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Yeah, rob G's walking back there.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, but this is something we've it's been a few
days now and went from is he just throwing his
name out there to you know, they really just doing
it all? And now here we are they've agreed. He's
agreed and it's it's actually happening.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
And all signs point to that four hundred page bible
that we were having fun with yesterday. Yes, all signs
point to we haven't heard anything different. All of those
terms are being met, including the coaching staff, which you
guys talked about on Friday, we go poach my boy,
go Tech Pens. So Matt Patricia is gonna be there.
His son Steve Belichick will be leaving the University of
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Washington become the assistant coach at UNC and the head
coach in waiting, which would make sense. Is because it's
been reported this deal is only a three year contract
for Bill Belichick. And I don't know about you, but
I don't know how many guys can turn around in
entire football program in three seasons, by the.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Miss, not many, especially when you're not a football school.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I thought the Bible was going to be a door
stop for the school president, but apparently not so Bill
Belichick is making this move and Kelvin.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Okay, to me, this is a clear sign of Bill
Belichick picking neputusmim over a chance at NFL history. It's
pretty simple to me. He ain't going to some college
football powerhouse. He ain't getting paid a gazillion dollars ten
million of years. Nice, but it ain't a gazillion dollars
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where you couldn't pass up the money.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
And when I look at this.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Because we know the Caveat buried, not in the language,
of course of the contract, but that his son Steve
will be the head coaching waiting after billsteps aside. This
is about nepotism. This is and I've said this, I
didn't like it when Lebron did it. I've never liked it.
I don't care who's at the end of it. It's
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a bad plague, especially the NFL.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Kelvin.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So many issues, in so many stories have been written
about nepotism in the NFL and the reason that it's
always been hard for minorities.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And black coaches to get in.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Because here's a couple numbers, and this comes back from
a two thousand and two article in USA Today. Of
the seven hundred and seventeen on field coaches this season,
at least ninety three thirteen percent have a father, son,
or brother who is a current or former NFL coach.
Of the ninety three coaches with connections, seventy six percent
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seventy six which is eighty two percent of white and
make up nearly one fifth of the league's white coaching.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Force.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Meanwhile, five point four coaches of color have a family connection,
and seven head coaches, six white or either the son
or father of a former NFL coach.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
And so here is Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Who has a chance, a real chance of passing Don
Shuler as the all time winning his coach, or I
should say, with the most wins in the history of
the NFL. At three hundred and twenty eight is what
Don Shuler has. Bill Belichick is twenty six behind. George
Hallis is second Kelvin at three eighteen. And I looked
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at the math. It ain't like it's impossible nine and seven,
a couple years, a ten win season, one ten or
eleven win season.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
All he has to do is go.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Eight or win eight or nine games or something like
that in time, and he would have a real shot.
Say if he took over the Cowboys or something or
whatever whatever, that would be a real possibility. So instead
of trying to do that and put your name in
the record books, he wants to set his son up.
And this is what I look at this deal as
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North Carolina no football history. He's not turning this program around.
Nil talk about being outdated. This is like Fred Flintstone
buying a car that travels with wheels, and he'd doesn't
have to power with his foot with his feet.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, I just don't see this as a match. I
think this is terrible. And the nepotism dripped from.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
This a lot to dissect, and you definitely you was
fired up about some Bill Belichick. Man. I almost had
to come over there and get you one of his hoodies.
All right, So let's start with this. There is some
weird not weird, but there's a small connection I'll say
between he and UNC that his father was a coach
there for a couple of years back in the fifties.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
He was a running back coach.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So there's some connection to some lineage if you will,
to that my dad coach here, now, I'll coach here,
and then maybe my son will coach here now. So
we have some type of this is what we do.
We coach at UNC. So there's that. What also, the nepotism,
it's not that when we have these conversations, it's not
that this needs to be in a perfect world, but
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it's the world we live in. So when I talk
about it is it's happening. It's always existed. And I
think to your point about talking about African American coaches
and former players.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Or whatnot, that's what all right, with Bron, I'm okay
with it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Maybe we need to flex it more, Maybe we need
to get our nepotism on if that's what it takes.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Is not what you know, it's who you know. So
they're not the.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Only issue I have with this, and I'm gonna push
back on this is you got to take Lebron as
the all time top one of the top players.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
It ain't.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
It ain't like Toot every top every top white coaches
getting their son or their cousin in and that's the difference.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
We don't have that.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So that's why I don't buy in, right, But that's
why I'm saying, so when you get the like, for instance,
the NBA now is full of former players sons, which
are gonna lead to more connections, right, whether they become
head coaches, whether they become broadcasters like us, where they
become and then they bring in their friends, their family,
their sons, and it starts to happen like that where
you start to be able to populate it with some people.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I don't think we have that same when we get
hired a job, right, but I don't.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I agree currently I agree, but I'm saying the only
way to try to change it is to try and
change it. That's why Lebron having his whole crew everybody
grew up with, put you and power over here, Maverick
Card over here, Rich Paul over here. I love it
because again you're populating with more people, a diverse group
of individuals.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
I'm with that, but keeping it going.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
This is starting to if there was any hope Rob
that amateurism still existed in college football, that there was
some little hope. People say it's all about the game
and college athletes, not about being pros and money.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
It's gone.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
He is literally said in his Book of Bible, the
Bill of Book of Bible that they subscribe to. He said,
I need players to get played. I need minimum salaries.
I need to like this. Literally, I'm telling you pay
these players this. It's going to be a system of
how they're paid. And I want that and you have
to agree to it. And apparently they're going to it's
turning into IMG Sports Academy where if you're the best
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high school players in the country, you go to IMNG.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
We'll school it up.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, but you're here to become a college athlete and
also probably a pro that's what IMG Academy is. Will
timmy who's trying his hardest. If he ain't good enough,
he ain't coming here. We only want the guys and
gals we know were putting up in college, potentially pro.
So this is becoming a farm system to the NFL. Now,
it'll be interesting to see if players like this, do
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players get greedy?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Yeah, you guarantee me this money.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It ain't enough, it ain't enough, and will this experiment
ultimately work? But also Robbie made me think, did the
NFL not subscribe to the Bill Belichick bible?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Did they say, yeah, we want you to coach, but
I don't want.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
You to coach.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
For the Fox Sports quote shout out to us, out
to Fox Sports. We want you to coach, but we
don't want you to have all the power. We don't
want you to dictate Matt Patrice, who has to come in.
Your son has to take over the you know, become
the coach of once you leave. And I'm wondering that
the NFL said, yeah, sure's a few teams who on
my interview and you and have you position. But like
the Atlanta Falcons last year, we heard he wanted everything
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and They're like, all right, hold on, are you doing
too much?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
And I'm wondering if this is out out for the Falcons.
It started off all right, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Kirk o Bags was now he is he is kurty
couple organizations.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I'm gonna say, you go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Because yeah, but I'm thinking the NFL say hey, here's
an opportunity. Here's what we're here's what we're willing to
extend and give you. We're not giving you all control.
We're not giving you. Let you decide.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
This isn't just about control. I hear you. The reason
he took this job is about his kid.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Let's just be that's part of the control. I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Also, give my kid a son, right, that is control,
Meaning you couldn't go to the Falcons or say the
Panthers and say I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this.
Oh and by the way, give my kid this head coach.
They're gonna be all right, you're doing too much now,
So I think that's I'm agreeing that that's a massive
part of this. I want to control everything about the organization,
the program, and control its destiny once I leave and
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guess what he got it. And the last point is
you talked about winning. Look, if he doesn't beat Don Shula,
everybody knows he's the greatest football coach is specifically anfl
like whether he wat the record or not, I agree
that in a person.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Don Shula never had a cheating scandal when he was coaching.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You. Honestly, Rob, you're the only one who care about that, Like, seriously,
nobody cares, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Is that why Robert crafts in the Hall of I
said the coach?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay, I'm just coach, and you don't what he's gonna
he's gonna be owns the team he's But yeah, but
we we talk about coach. You just talked about it
the other day that this should be a different thing
getting in the Hall of Fame, Like it should be
the folks who vote on the players. And that's that. Uh, Rob,
Robert Kraft owns a team. He didn't necessarily get down
there and coach on the day to day.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
He wasn't. Jerry Jones is the owner of owners.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I'm not, but there were all the owners in it's jes.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I hear you, and the cheat It's never gonna affect
Bill Belichick It's never gonna affect Tom Brady's got a
quarter of a billion dollars to be on TV every day.
In our face, it's not gonna affect he or Bill Belichick.
Just you just gotta get over that. My brother is
not going to But it'll be interesting to see how
long he says three year deal? Will he do three years?
I don't know if he's gonna commit to that. I
don't have it really going past two years. But uh,
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this might change the game as far as X coaches
in the NFL coming in or these program saying give
me all the power, give me all the money, and
I'll turn this thing around. We'll see if that's what
this starts to become even more making college even more professional,
just a pre professional is what it'll be.
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Speaker 1 (11:23):
You and I have been talking about it for a
little bit too, that the NBA is having an issue
that other sports aren't having it or definitely not at
least at the magnitude in which the NBA is having it,
and that is viewership issues. You know, yesterday you and
I were talking about Caitlin Clark, whether she should have
been Time Athlete of the Year, whatever side you come
out on it on. One thing we talked about was
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the WNBA viewership was up. You got Women's tournament, viewership
was up. You talk about the Major League Baseball this year,
what was the common denominator again, viewership was up. The
NFL has averaged more the highest they've had seven teen
point three million viewers. It's hyats since twenty fifteen, so
they've gone up as well. So everybody's kind of having
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this or at least at worse, they're staying pack. If not,
they're moving up with viewership. And the NBA has been
the opposite. The NBA has gone down. You're talking about
down double digits, ten percent from last year. You're looking
at the Ncason Tournament right now. The NBA Cup is
down ten percent and it did pretty well actually last year.
Not the case this year. In the NBA this year
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as a whole is twenty eight percent down year over year.
That's crazy, almost a third percent down and really almost
half rob since twenty twelve, forty eight percent down. Viewership
has gone down since twenty I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So you start there, okay, if you're saying why why,
what is the issue here? Well, for me, it comes
down to three things. One, Steph Curry has ruined the NBA.
That's the first one, and I'll explain what I mean.
Steph Curry is the greatest shooter we have ever seen.
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Steph Curry is a wonderful talent, one of the greatest
players of all time. But he has a natural gift,
also a gift that he has honed in on his
craft and gotten better at, and that has ability to
shoot threes, ability to shoot from deep, ability to take
shops that most of the time growing up, you'd be
on the bench if you took that shot.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
He mastered it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
He's great and it is the reason why it's been
spectacular fun to watch him. The problem is the second point,
nerds with numbers analytics has starting to ruin the game.
And I don't even just mean basketball, I mean baseball.
Baseball had to mess around and retweak some things because
they got too carried away, carried about the numbers. Football
they had to retweak some things. They got too carried
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about passing. That's why we're seeing those resurgence in running
the ball. In defense, Well, the NBA isn't there yet.
It's all a bunch of nerds saying a three is
worth more than two, and if you draw a file,
it's worse.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
The guy guys oh just trying to draw files.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And they saw Steph Curry hitting these threes and they said, well,
we need to do more of that. The problem is
everybody can't shoot like Steph Curry. Everybody isn't built like
Steph Curry. I don't need my seven foot center shooting
threes because analytically, if you shoot it in, if you
happen to make it sad, they're taking away from what
made the game great. And my last point I told
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you was three is I blame jay Z not because
all the other stuff. You know, I'm saying jay Z
for years said I don't write rhymes. I don't write rhymes,
and people started other rappers started to go, well, he
don't write rhymes, so I ain't gonna writ rhymes. What
they missed was his point was while he was out
in the streets hustling, he couldn't write down his rhymes,
so he had to mentally write them down. They were
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still coherent, they were still written. And what happened with music,
specifically hip hop, everybody started to be him and I
don't write rhymes, go in there and let the spirit move.
I'm a freestyle and music started to become trashed because
guys were trying to emulate him, similarly to how guys
are trying.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
To emulate Steph Curry. Everybody can't do it.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Everybody ain't built for it, and they shouldn't have nerds
who never even played the sport telling the sport how
to be played, and it's made it unwatchable at times.
And then you also add in the last league the
load management. Everybody became I gotta win the championships. I
got load management. I gotta wait, I gotta wait. I
need the rest, I need this, And it starts to
be like, well, shoot, if you don't care, I don't care.
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If you ain't playing the night, well I guess I'll
wait till the playoffs. When you do care, and you
combine all that, you put it in a blender to me,
and you have the recipe to being forty eight percent
down viewership in the last to attend to twelve years.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff, and mosteed to blame
for me is the three. The other night, the Thunder
in the first half took thirty one threes.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
That's crazy, thirty one threes.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Like, seriously, thirty one threes? That who wants to watch that?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Seriously?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Who? And ain't Larry Bird shooting twenty threes either?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
You know, those guys didn't even come close to that.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
They needed three, they would take a three, they warned
up there just chucking threes. We saw an All Star
game where the final score was over two hundred like,
and you're asking why people don't don't want to watch
the All Star Game anymore?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Why people don't want to watch a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Of these games because they're just not aesthetically pleasing. You go,
there's more to basketball than just making threes, either three
or dunk at the basket.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
My god, really, is that all we want to see?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And I think fans have revolted. I mean they're just like,
I don't want to watch this. I've been covering the
NBA since nineteen eighty seven. I've said a million times,
I've set courtside some of the biggest moments in NBA history.
I was there when Michael Jordan made that shot over
Craig e Low in Cleveland. I was there, and you
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know what the brand of basketball. I'm not an old
guy yelling out a cloud.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Kelvin.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You know this.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
It's just not fun to watch.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
It's not I don't care what you say. It's not
hating on the younger generation.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Oh yeah, everything was better in the old days.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
No, these are young people who aren't watching the NBA
the way they used to. When when the Pistons, sorry
Rob g beat the Lakers in two thousand and four,
Yes he hates it. I went to I was a
columnist for the Detroit News. Covered Kelvin every game you
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had to go watch. I watched every game from two
nothing all the way through the game. Can't watch the
whole game anymore. It just doesn't work for me.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
It doesn't. I'm not excited about it.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
There were a ton of goods, a ton of players,
and we get it Lebron's older and staff or whatever.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
But there's some other players that we Nobody wants to
see Wimby. I keep hearing all that.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
No, start, you don't want to see wimbyll You wanna
say John Moran you want to see. I mean like
there are some names and people you don't want to
see any of those guys.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
The issue to Rob is that if you look at
some of the greats and you look at what they
were great, at what we say about MJ. Fade away.
MJ was midranging you to death? So would he not
be that guy now because technically, you know, you better
to shoot the three, so you have to shoot the three.
But Tim duncan was fundamental post moves all galore, off
the glass, off the glass. Kevin McCall was an artist
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down there. Mid Ranging you to death was Larry Bird.
Magic Johnson was running the show, getting guys easy buckets,
easy buckets in the paint wherever it matter out, you know,
fast break whatever, easy buckets. You know how many teams
are historical teams we love to talk about because it
was what defense hard knows.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And we've lost that, the competitiveness, the edge.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And maybe it is hard to feel that way when
I'm a middling player and I'm making fifteen, eighteen, twenty
million dollar and maybe it's hard, but I just think
the game has lost it again, the artistry it used
to be. Patrick Ewing was a big man who could
hit the elbow, but he could post up. He was aggressive,
block and shot, Like where is that? That was regular?
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Meaning he was him? It was David Robertson. It was
a keim e lajuwan, it was scheck. It can go
down the line. That wasn't just an anomaly where like,
oh we got Yo Kitsch, the one big guy who's
and unbid, who used post moves, you know what I mean, Like,
it was a multitude of post moves. It was a
multitude of point guards who got in the pain, who distributed.
It was a multitude of the guys who could shoot.
We had every type of way, type of game Kareem
with the skyhook.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
And we've lost that. We've lost the competitiveness.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And I just think all of these things, and lastly too,
all of these kids play. You're not a real You're
not you don't care about your game in current basketball.
If you're a teenager, if you don't have your own
private trainer, if you don't have your own personal private
trainer who's teaching you how to basically essentially find a
way to do a step back three. That's why they all,
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that's all they do and It's the reason why I
tell you, young people, I say the same thing. It
ain't me hayting just because I'm a little bit older
than you. It's that, Yes, I will give you if
these most of these guys can probably dribble better than
all the guys previously.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I'll give you that maybe a center can.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Dribble better than maybe, but they don't know how to
play basketball better than them.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
The actual play the game, win the game.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I can. I also give you. I want to give
you here. Here's a good comparison. This will help you.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
You ready, In twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, the Warriors three
point attempts per game?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
You ready take a guess in twenty.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Fifty sixteen, they're probably shooting about twenty.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Eight okay, close thirty one point six. They were first
in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
You got me, I don't even want to hear it.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
The Raptors in twenty four to twenty five are.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Averaging thirty one point one three point attempts per game.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Where do they rank compared to the Warriors were ranked
first at thirty one point six in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen,
the Raptors thirty one point one.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Now this season. What do they rank?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Are they twenty twentieth?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
How about dead last?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And there you go, thirty one point one is dead
last in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And is that I tell you something right there tells
you because everybody isn't made to shoot these things. And
that's the challenge too, is that you're telling them no
the money and I mean the analytics say this. So
then you got guys who should never be shooting these
shooting these because I won't get in trouble. The reason
why we didn't shoot when I played in high school
and when you were playing back in the day as
a kid and everybody was playing, or if you played it,
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and I don't care if it's elementary, high school or college,
it was a bad shot. And it's not that it's saying,
let's try to get an easier one. Let's work it
in and if it's there, it's there. If it's a
why open three, you gotta take it all right, give
what the defense you know, take it. But the ideentity
just come down and chuck it out the blue. And
it's something to say, abou LaMelo ball's fun to watch,
but it's a wonder why it's gifted as he is
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his team ain't winning. You can't just take shots from
the logo all the time and think that's just a
great shot all the time.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Steph Curry is gifted. He works at it.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
He has a special gift literally the reason why he's
amazing to get golf. I guarantee you he is great
at darts. His hand eye coordination is special. I don't
need I don't need six foot ten guy I've never
even heard of, as I swear to I'm watching it
right now. That's what just happened, is I said it
this Atlanta. In the next game, some guy literally don't
even know just shooting the three, shooting three, Like what
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are we doing there? And it becomes and slowly, slowly
but surely, fans are like, eh, it's not even funny, Moore,
it's not good anymore. And then again, I think low
management plays a role when guys are sitting down too.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
People definitely got turned off by that. They're paying big
money for.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Ten I'm going to y'all know, I'm all excited on it.
I don't push my date. Hey baby, let's just do
it Friday. It's a big game Thursday night on why
nobody's playing? Hey, I bought this ticket to take my
little son. It's gonna be the one time you go
to get nobody's playing. So I think all of these
things you added up, you slowly get a fan base
who has options. By the way, who has I can
just see the clips. I can just do prize picks.
(23:19):
I can just you know, I'll be on my phone
on YouTube, Instagram. It'll show me some clips later. And
I think it's starting to hurt the game a bit
a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
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Speaker 4 (23:39):
Here we go, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Let's do round two on this big babbing round two fight.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I'm gonna say, Bill Belichick is not going to turn
around UNC North Carolina Football, so sure how how long
he'll even be there? This could be the quickest handover
to his son one year. Say that it is three,
or say that whatever it is, and he'll.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Be in and out.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I just don't believe that the players will connect with him,
a seventy two year old.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I just think this is a fish out of water.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
This is a really weird hire at this point in
his life, where you know, players gravitate to some look
at the NFL, the younger, younger coaches, and now you're
gonna put even older. Mac Brown was seventy one who
they let go and they actually hired a guy older
(24:34):
than Mac Brown, if you could believe that.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I don't want to say that Bill.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Belichick is old, but I heard that they're putting his
office in the cemetery. I mean, like, come on, this
is bad, this is not this is not gonna work
out good.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
This is about his kid. This is about the kid.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
But also I think too, if it does have moderate
success early, what I think we've seen in all sports,
it's copycat leagues, and so I think he's gonna come
in there, and if he were to have some success early,
maybe he turns over some transfer portals and gets a
couple of kids.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
They're like, oh shoot he got a great quarterback. Oh
shoot he got that best running back.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
What's gonna happen is the bigger brands, to me are
gonna say, well, what are they doing well, Then let's
do that ourselves. Alabama will say, Oklahoma will say, Ohio
State will say, Michigan will say.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
They're gonna follow, and.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well, I'm saying, yeah, if they're saying paying these coming
out more, even dedicating more resources, actually putting out because
remember he's putting out saying I need them to be paid.
This not just like a singular player, like hey, we're
gonna get this quarterback.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
He's gonna need a million dollars. He saying, here's a
salary of these players.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I'm gonna need this, this, this, this, And I think
programs are just gonna emulate that they're gonna copy that
and then they're gonna maybe get more because they're bigger names.
And also year two ish, and he's sitting in your
living room.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
You know I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna be coaching.
You know, I want your son to come play for me.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And you're like, man, you ain't gonna be here that long.
And so maybe the idea that be knowing he's not
gonna be there so long. I don't want my son
to go play for him, because he's telling me, oh,
he's gonna be there, I gonna be his whole career,
and he's like, no, you're gonna be here another year too.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Manch That's why it was it's a hard recruit to
recruit him. A. He doesn't have that personality. B he's
such an older guy. You don't know how long you're
gonna be there. And do you really want to play
for his son? There's a lot of stuff there. I
just don't see how he's an attractive.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
And attract Okay, so the attraction is I know the league.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I've spent nearly forty years in the league as is
either assistant or a defensive coordinator or obviously a coach.
For all these years, I know the league and guess
who I know. I know all the agents, I know
all of these guys. That's still a lure, and that's
what is a geatin when he focused on making this
a professional thing. Similarly, again I mentioned earlier like I
(26:48):
amg or come img is you want to get to
college and go play at the top schools, come here,
you know, come to death Row and we're gonna get
you straight.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
That's gonna be his A lawy.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Is, So how did the NBA when they started that
league that they've now dissolved for uh league?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
The what was that? Rob g The Elite? What was that?
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Oh? The Elite? The tournament?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Remember they put together for people they were paying players,
right instead of going to their one year.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
College overtime elite.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, they've they've they've disbanded. I mean, like I'm just
trying to say, I hear you. But you could go
to Alabama, make it to the NFL. You can go
to Michigan. You don't have to go to u n
C for Bill Belichick to make it. If you're a
top player, you don't. You don't have to go there.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Right, But that's gonna be the sale is you can
code you can because let's say, you're right, what I mean,
you are Alabama.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
We don't pump people in the league. We know the Georgia.
But I can say if I'm Bill Belichick trying to,
you know, lure this kid. Yeah, they can get you
the playing time in the big platforms. I literally know
the guys. I literally can say, hey, you know, I
got this kid. You need to come see he's amazing. Hey,
I literally you need an agent. I noticed agent. He
used to represent Grunk, he used to represent Tom Brady.
(28:06):
Like he's gonna sell people on that. Like, I'm literally
the pipeline to the league because I was the league
for twenty thirty, forty years, and that's gonna be the sale.
Now again, I think initially it may work and at
oh shoot, that's something different, and they're paying, and they
have agreed to pay. Not again, just hey, come here,
we'll figure it out.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Come here. This is exactly what the school said they're
gonna pay you.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
So initially I think there will be some you know,
just just like anything coach Prime, it works and it's
all fun in the beginning. I think again, then you
will have those blue bloods that say, man, I already
got the name. I'm Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma, Michigan, Ohio state.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Already got the name.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
And you know what, I just convinced my GM, I
mean athletic directors, to come and pay you and pay
this are running backs, top ten, top running backs, you're
gonna get this, top quarter two quarterback, You're gonna get this.
And I think he's gonna start to set the new trend.
That's a good copy it all. I think it's exact opposite.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
If I'm going in to recruit against Bill Belichick, I
tell those kids in that parent he's seventy two, Okay,
he's he's an older guy.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
He doesn't know, he's not hip, he doesn't know what's happening.
Blah blah blah. And then I would say, also, you
know he's on.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
He the reason he's at UNC is nobody wanted it
in the NFL. They looked at him as a dinosaur.
I mean, I'm just giving you what I would selling point.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm mister Washington right now, and that's here.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Tell me keep going.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, And and you don't want to get on this.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Dude can can decide he doesn't want to do this
in a drop of a dime. He's made all this money,
you know, and coaching in the NFL, and at any
point he could just go, you know what, this isn't
for me.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I don't want to care about grades and kids and
all this. Nil.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
This is just a headache, and I don't want to
do this. And you'll be you know, you'll be ass out,
you know, for the lack of a better word.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Out of he was a better word. It gotta be
Mike Tyson. You'll just be Mike Tyson, because that's it
right now. He had it all out. So by the way,
Covino and Rich for having Tyson on that was pretty
duble with him. By the way, Yeah, the only thing
I get. So the counter would be, you know, if
I get my visit and i'm Bill, then I'm gonna
say again, especially if he's getting transfer portal kids who
(30:21):
are already year three and already made a little name
for themselves, You're right. I'm not gonna be here, you know, five, six,
seven years, But for the next three years, I'm going
to be the thing that gets guys in the league.
I'm going to be the guys that prepares you for
the NFL. I mean, he said, he says, I'm gonna
prepare you for money. Everybody else is gonna get you there.
(30:43):
I'm gonna teach you how Hey, here's the best financial
advisors and all that that. He talked about, how he
wants to prepare you for all things NFL, not just
your body to be a good player, but also what
it takes to be a pro, the discipline. So that's
gonna be his pitch. I just think ultimately it seems
like things like this don't work out when it's too
good on paper, right, meaning all time, you know, one
(31:05):
of the greatest coaches, if not the greatest coaches coming,
he's gonna do it. This way he's bringing his guys
and it's gonna be He's gonna be a pipeline. It
almost sounds too good to be true, which is why
I'm leaning on it not working because typically when things
were all like, oh, this is gonna work out.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I don't even see how people how they really look
at this and think we're hiring a seventy two year
old to relate to college kids.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I just find that to be mind boggling.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And I don't know if that Patricia is the guy
that relates to them as well.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
He doesn't strike as that.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I just and then all of his cronies.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You remember, I'll give you when Michael Jordan was a
part owner of the Wizards and all that, and he
brought all of his buddies into work, and you know,
it didn't work.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
That's what I mean. It just it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
It didn't work. And that was Michael Jordan and whatnot.
And you remember, people don't want to remember this a
poland fired Michael Jordan fired him.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
He is just because he's the greatest of all time.
But it's a different thing.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And and will they become grueling for a seventy two
year old meeting dude, you gotta travel and recruit and
go on people's June and then you gotta go here.
You gotta go, and obviously you'll have scouts to go
to high schools. But my point is this, Well, that's
what we always hear about college. It is a year
a minute. We literally see coaches win a bowl game,
win a national championship, d D D coaching, We got you?
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Just what is me get? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's so great. I love my university of love of school.
What's gonna go?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
What's on next? Well, I'll get on the plane tomorrow.
I gotta hit out. We got some recruit Like that's crazy?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Is he ready for that at seventy two and having
never done that at that level? Like, that's a whole
different bag.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I just again, I find this to be shocking that
Bill Belichick decided to go to a basketball school with
all of his friends and cronies and son.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's just having fun, Rob. Honestly, it's a it's a
win win situation. I'm about to get I'm about to
have full.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Ten million dollars? Is that is that? What?
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
That is the most unropped Parker thing you have ever said?
Ten million dollars is a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I'm about to go to a non football school, is
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
But the but the other thing is I'm having an.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
All time great NFL coach.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Is what I'm saying. That there there wasn't a better job.
There weren't another.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
School, but that would love to have Bill Bell That's
all I'm saying. This is not a football school.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
What I'm saying is you two things.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I think one this might be telling that the NFL
not that somebody again wasn't going to give him a
head coaching job. I think we both agree he could
got you know, maybe.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
One two jobs going to be available. Why would he
jump on this job?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Because at this point in his life. You've heard it
from people. At this point, it's called the all the
they call it quest. So and so is just doing
side quests at this point. At this point, Bill Belichick
is doing side quest. I've already coached, I've already won
a bunch of What can I do that? I will
let me name the most outlandish things. You got to you.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Gotta be there, you go, Okay, there you go.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
You just said, yeah, let.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Me get my son a job, Let me do this
let me bring my boys in, get them some jobs again,
because I don't even literally don't even know whe Matt
Patricia is. Let me get my boys. The boys are
back in town, and give me this, give me this,
give me this. Bring my one boy. You're you got
to poach him because he's already has a job. And
they literally said okay. And I think it's like, Oh,
I got everything I want. It's like, if you're building
a woman, she got to be this, she gotta be that,
(34:21):
she gotta look, she gotta cook, she gotta do this.
And then when I say I want it, she gives
it to me and we go here and she doesn't complain.
And it's like they weird science. This thing murder only
in the eighties. He weird science. The perfect opportunity where
he literally got everything he wants from a four page
manifesto bible and they gave it to him. So I
think it's a side court for him, Like, ay, what
else can I do?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I'm doing TV. It's fun. I'm hopping on everybody's podcast.
I'm hanging out with everybody. I'm doing commercials with Prize
Pixel and hanging out with Cameron and all these people
I think it just was like, let me throw this
out here outlandishly and see if I get it, and
he got it.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah, I don't think it's any of that.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I just think this was a play for his son,
and he decided to do it so that his son
and some of his friends who maybe are out of
work can get a job or whatever and that and
that's fine if that's what it is. I just don't
believe that going to UNC is And that's why everybody
discounted it when they first heard it.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Why would he be interested?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
And I don't know if he couldn't bring his friends
and family, would he be interested in UNC.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
That's even a tech.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I agree that might be like eighty five percent of
it is that I get to again have full carte
blanche do it how I want to do it.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
And maybe an NFL organization was not age.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
We want you to coach, sure, and you'll be in
the room when we talk about draftics and all. You'll
be in the room, but we not giving you all that,
especially considered you're not gonna be here forever. And so
I could see im like, what'screw, who's gonna give it
to me?
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
The news of the Days. It's there, rob G, you
want to jump in. Bill Belichick is going to be
announced tomorrow. I guess as the new head coach of
North Carolina football, not basketball.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I'm just a football rob G. We got a little details.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Yeah, rob G's walking back there.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, but this is something we've it's been a few
days now and went from is he just throwing his
name out there to you know, they really just doing
it all? And now here we are they've agreed. He's
agreed and it's it's actually happening.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
And all signs point to that four hundred page bible
that we were having fun with yesterday. Yes, all signs
point to we haven't heard anything different. All of those
terms are being met, including the coaching staff, which you
guys talked about on Friday, we go poach my boy,
go Tech Pens. So Matt Patricia is gonna be there.
His son Steve Belichick will be leaving the University of
(01:22):
Washington become the assistant coach at UNC and the head
coach in waiting, which would make sense. Is because it's
been reported this deal is only a three year contract
for Bill Belichick. And I don't know about you, but
I don't know how many guys can turn around in
entire football program in three seasons, by the.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Miss, not many, especially when you're not a football school.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I thought the Bible was going to be a door
stop for the school president, but apparently not so Bill
Belichick is making this move and Kelvin.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Okay, to me, this is a clear sign of Bill
Belichick picking neputusmim over a chance at NFL history. It's
pretty simple to me. He ain't going to some college
football powerhouse. He ain't getting paid a gazillion dollars ten
million of years. Nice, but it ain't a gazillion dollars
(02:13):
where you couldn't pass up the money.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
And when I look at this.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Because we know the Caveat buried, not in the language,
of course of the contract, but that his son Steve
will be the head coaching waiting after billsteps aside. This
is about nepotism. This is and I've said this, I
didn't like it when Lebron did it. I've never liked it.
I don't care who's at the end of it. It's
(02:40):
a bad plague, especially the NFL.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Kelvin.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So many issues, in so many stories have been written
about nepotism in the NFL and the reason that it's
always been hard for minorities.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And black coaches to get in.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Because here's a couple numbers, and this comes back from
a two thousand and two article in USA Today. Of
the seven hundred and seventeen on field coaches this season,
at least ninety three thirteen percent have a father, son,
or brother who is a current or former NFL coach.
Of the ninety three coaches with connections, seventy six percent
(03:19):
seventy six which is eighty two percent of white and
make up nearly one fifth of the league's white coaching.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Force.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Meanwhile, five point four coaches of color have a family connection,
and seven head coaches, six white or either the son
or father of a former NFL coach.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
And so here is Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Who has a chance, a real chance of passing Don
Shuler as the all time winning his coach, or I
should say, with the most wins in the history of
the NFL. At three hundred and twenty eight is what
Don Shuler has. Bill Belichick is twenty six behind. George
Hallis is second Kelvin at three eighteen. And I looked
(04:07):
at the math. It ain't like it's impossible nine and seven,
a couple years, a ten win season, one ten or
eleven win season.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
All he has to do is go.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Eight or win eight or nine games or something like
that in time, and he would have a real shot.
Say if he took over the Cowboys or something or
whatever whatever, that would be a real possibility. So instead
of trying to do that and put your name in
the record books, he wants to set his son up.
And this is what I look at this deal as
(04:43):
North Carolina no football history. He's not turning this program around.
Nil talk about being outdated. This is like Fred Flintstone
buying a car that travels with wheels, and he'd doesn't
have to power with his foot with his feet.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, I just don't see this as a match. I
think this is terrible. And the nepotism dripped from.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
This a lot to dissect, and you definitely you was
fired up about some Bill Belichick. Man. I almost had
to come over there and get you one of his hoodies.
All right, So let's start with this. There is some
weird not weird, but there's a small connection I'll say
between he and UNC that his father was a coach
there for a couple of years back in the fifties.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
He was a running back coach.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So there's some connection to some lineage if you will,
to that my dad coach here, now, I'll coach here,
and then maybe my son will coach here now. So
we have some type of this is what we do.
We coach at UNC. So there's that. What also, the nepotism,
it's not that when we have these conversations, it's not
that this needs to be in a perfect world, but
(05:49):
it's the world we live in. So when I talk
about it is it's happening. It's always existed. And I
think to your point about talking about African American coaches
and former players.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Or whatnot, that's what all right, with Bron, I'm okay
with it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Maybe we need to flex it more, Maybe we need
to get our nepotism on if that's what it takes.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Is not what you know, it's who you know. So
they're not the.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Only issue I have with this, and I'm gonna push
back on this is you got to take Lebron as
the all time top one of the top players.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
It ain't.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
It ain't like Toot every top every top white coaches
getting their son or their cousin in and that's the difference.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
We don't have that.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So that's why I don't buy in, right, But that's
why I'm saying, so when you get the like, for instance,
the NBA now is full of former players sons, which
are gonna lead to more connections, right, whether they become
head coaches, whether they become broadcasters like us, where they
become and then they bring in their friends, their family,
their sons, and it starts to happen like that where
you start to be able to populate it with some people.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I don't think we have that same when we get
hired a job, right, but I don't.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I agree currently I agree, but I'm saying the only
way to try to change it is to try and
change it. That's why Lebron having his whole crew everybody
grew up with, put you and power over here, Maverick
Card over here, Rich Paul over here. I love it
because again you're populating with more people, a diverse group
of individuals.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
I'm with that, but keeping it going.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
This is starting to if there was any hope Rob
that amateurism still existed in college football, that there was
some little hope. People say it's all about the game
and college athletes, not about being pros and money.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
It's gone.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
He is literally said in his Book of Bible, the
Bill of Book of Bible that they subscribe to. He said,
I need players to get played. I need minimum salaries.
I need to like this. Literally, I'm telling you pay
these players this. It's going to be a system of
how they're paid. And I want that and you have
to agree to it. And apparently they're going to it's
turning into IMG Sports Academy where if you're the best
(07:45):
high school players in the country, you go to IMNG.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
We'll school it up.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, but you're here to become a college athlete and
also probably a pro that's what IMG Academy is. Will
timmy who's trying his hardest. If he ain't good enough,
he ain't coming here. We only want the guys and
gals we know were putting up in college, potentially pro.
So this is becoming a farm system to the NFL. Now,
it'll be interesting to see if players like this, do
(08:11):
players get greedy?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Yeah, you guarantee me this money.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It ain't enough, it ain't enough, and will this experiment
ultimately work? But also Robbie made me think, did the
NFL not subscribe to the Bill Belichick bible?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Did they say, yeah, we want you to coach, but
I don't want.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
You to coach.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
For the Fox Sports quote shout out to us, out
to Fox Sports. We want you to coach, but we
don't want you to have all the power. We don't
want you to dictate Matt Patrice, who has to come in.
Your son has to take over the you know, become
the coach of once you leave. And I'm wondering that
the NFL said, yeah, sure's a few teams who on
my interview and you and have you position. But like
the Atlanta Falcons last year, we heard he wanted everything
(08:49):
and They're like, all right, hold on, are you doing
too much?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
And I'm wondering if this is out out for the Falcons.
It started off all right, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Kirk o Bags was now he is he is kurty
couple organizations.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I'm gonna say, you go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Because yeah, but I'm thinking the NFL say hey, here's
an opportunity. Here's what we're here's what we're willing to
extend and give you. We're not giving you all control.
We're not giving you. Let you decide.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
This isn't just about control. I hear you. The reason
he took this job is about his kid.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Let's just be that's part of the control. I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Also, give my kid a son, right, that is control,
Meaning you couldn't go to the Falcons or say the
Panthers and say I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this.
Oh and by the way, give my kid this head coach.
They're gonna be all right, you're doing too much now,
So I think that's I'm agreeing that that's a massive
part of this. I want to control everything about the organization,
the program, and control its destiny once I leave and
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guess what he got it. And the last point is
you talked about winning. Look, if he doesn't beat Don Shula,
everybody knows he's the greatest football coach is specifically anfl
like whether he wat the record or not, I agree
that in a person.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Don Shula never had a cheating scandal when he was coaching.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You. Honestly, Rob, you're the only one who care about that, Like, seriously,
nobody cares, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Is that why Robert crafts in the Hall of I
said the coach?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay, I'm just coach, and you don't what he's gonna
he's gonna be owns the team he's But yeah, but
we we talk about coach. You just talked about it
the other day that this should be a different thing
getting in the Hall of Fame, Like it should be
the folks who vote on the players. And that's that. Uh, Rob,
Robert Kraft owns a team. He didn't necessarily get down
there and coach on the day to day.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
He wasn't. Jerry Jones is the owner of owners.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I'm not, but there were all the owners in it's jes.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I hear you, and the cheat It's never gonna affect
Bill Belichick It's never gonna affect Tom Brady's got a
quarter of a billion dollars to be on TV every day.
In our face, it's not gonna affect he or Bill Belichick.
Just you just gotta get over that. My brother is
not going to But it'll be interesting to see how
long he says three year deal? Will he do three years?
I don't know if he's gonna commit to that. I
don't have it really going past two years. But uh,
(10:55):
this might change the game as far as X coaches
in the NFL coming in or these program saying give
me all the power, give me all the money, and
I'll turn this thing around. We'll see if that's what
this starts to become even more making college even more professional,
just a pre professional is what it'll be.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
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Speaker 1 (11:23):
You and I have been talking about it for a
little bit too, that the NBA is having an issue
that other sports aren't having it or definitely not at
least at the magnitude in which the NBA is having it,
and that is viewership issues. You know, yesterday you and
I were talking about Caitlin Clark, whether she should have
been Time Athlete of the Year, whatever side you come
out on it on. One thing we talked about was
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the WNBA viewership was up. You got Women's tournament, viewership
was up. You talk about the Major League Baseball this year,
what was the common denominator again, viewership was up. The
NFL has averaged more the highest they've had seven teen
point three million viewers. It's hyats since twenty fifteen, so
they've gone up as well. So everybody's kind of having
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this or at least at worse, they're staying pack. If not,
they're moving up with viewership. And the NBA has been
the opposite. The NBA has gone down. You're talking about
down double digits, ten percent from last year. You're looking
at the Ncason Tournament right now. The NBA Cup is
down ten percent and it did pretty well actually last year.
Not the case this year. In the NBA this year
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as a whole is twenty eight percent down year over year.
That's crazy, almost a third percent down and really almost
half rob since twenty twelve, forty eight percent down. Viewership
has gone down since twenty I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So you start there, okay, if you're saying why why,
what is the issue here? Well, for me, it comes
down to three things. One, Steph Curry has ruined the NBA.
That's the first one, and I'll explain what I mean.
Steph Curry is the greatest shooter we have ever seen.
(13:04):
Steph Curry is a wonderful talent, one of the greatest
players of all time. But he has a natural gift,
also a gift that he has honed in on his
craft and gotten better at, and that has ability to
shoot threes, ability to shoot from deep, ability to take
shops that most of the time growing up, you'd be
on the bench if you took that shot.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
He mastered it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
He's great and it is the reason why it's been
spectacular fun to watch him. The problem is the second point,
nerds with numbers analytics has starting to ruin the game.
And I don't even just mean basketball, I mean baseball.
Baseball had to mess around and retweak some things because
they got too carried away, carried about the numbers. Football
they had to retweak some things. They got too carried
(13:43):
about passing. That's why we're seeing those resurgence in running
the ball. In defense, Well, the NBA isn't there yet.
It's all a bunch of nerds saying a three is
worth more than two, and if you draw a file,
it's worse.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
The guy guys oh just trying to draw files.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And they saw Steph Curry hitting these threes and they said, well,
we need to do more of that. The problem is
everybody can't shoot like Steph Curry. Everybody isn't built like
Steph Curry. I don't need my seven foot center shooting
threes because analytically, if you shoot it in, if you
happen to make it sad, they're taking away from what
made the game great. And my last point I told
(14:16):
you was three is I blame jay Z not because
all the other stuff. You know, I'm saying jay Z
for years said I don't write rhymes. I don't write rhymes,
and people started other rappers started to go, well, he
don't write rhymes, so I ain't gonna writ rhymes. What
they missed was his point was while he was out
in the streets hustling, he couldn't write down his rhymes,
so he had to mentally write them down. They were
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still coherent, they were still written. And what happened with music,
specifically hip hop, everybody started to be him and I
don't write rhymes, go in there and let the spirit move.
I'm a freestyle and music started to become trashed because
guys were trying to emulate him, similarly to how guys
are trying.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
To emulate Steph Curry. Everybody can't do it.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Everybody ain't built for it, and they shouldn't have nerds
who never even played the sport telling the sport how
to be played, and it's made it unwatchable at times.
And then you also add in the last league the
load management. Everybody became I gotta win the championships. I
got load management. I gotta wait, I gotta wait. I
need the rest, I need this, And it starts to
be like, well, shoot, if you don't care, I don't care.
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If you ain't playing the night, well I guess I'll
wait till the playoffs. When you do care, and you
combine all that, you put it in a blender to me,
and you have the recipe to being forty eight percent
down viewership in the last to attend to twelve years.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff, and mosteed to blame
for me is the three. The other night, the Thunder
in the first half took thirty one threes.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
That's crazy, thirty one threes.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Like, seriously, thirty one threes? That who wants to watch that?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Seriously?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Who? And ain't Larry Bird shooting twenty threes either?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
You know, those guys didn't even come close to that.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
They needed three, they would take a three, they warned
up there just chucking threes. We saw an All Star
game where the final score was over two hundred like,
and you're asking why people don't don't want to watch
the All Star Game anymore?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Why people don't want to watch a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Of these games because they're just not aesthetically pleasing. You go,
there's more to basketball than just making threes, either three
or dunk at the basket.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
My god, really, is that all we want to see?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And I think fans have revolted. I mean they're just like,
I don't want to watch this. I've been covering the
NBA since nineteen eighty seven. I've said a million times,
I've set courtside some of the biggest moments in NBA history.
I was there when Michael Jordan made that shot over
Craig e Low in Cleveland. I was there, and you
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know what the brand of basketball. I'm not an old
guy yelling out a cloud.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Kelvin.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You know this.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
It's just not fun to watch.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
It's not I don't care what you say. It's not
hating on the younger generation.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Oh yeah, everything was better in the old days.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
No, these are young people who aren't watching the NBA
the way they used to. When when the Pistons, sorry
Rob g beat the Lakers in two thousand and four,
Yes he hates it. I went to I was a
columnist for the Detroit News. Covered Kelvin every game you
(17:37):
had to go watch. I watched every game from two
nothing all the way through the game. Can't watch the
whole game anymore. It just doesn't work for me.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
It doesn't. I'm not excited about it.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
There were a ton of goods, a ton of players,
and we get it Lebron's older and staff or whatever.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
But there's some other players that we Nobody wants to
see Wimby. I keep hearing all that.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
No, start, you don't want to see wimbyll You wanna
say John Moran you want to see. I mean like
there are some names and people you don't want to
see any of those guys.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
The issue to Rob is that if you look at
some of the greats and you look at what they
were great, at what we say about MJ. Fade away.
MJ was midranging you to death? So would he not
be that guy now because technically, you know, you better
to shoot the three, so you have to shoot the three.
But Tim duncan was fundamental post moves all galore, off
the glass, off the glass. Kevin McCall was an artist
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down there. Mid Ranging you to death was Larry Bird.
Magic Johnson was running the show, getting guys easy buckets,
easy buckets in the paint wherever it matter out, you know,
fast break whatever, easy buckets. You know how many teams
are historical teams we love to talk about because it
was what defense hard knows.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And we've lost that, the competitiveness, the edge.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And maybe it is hard to feel that way when
I'm a middling player and I'm making fifteen, eighteen, twenty
million dollar and maybe it's hard, but I just think
the game has lost it again, the artistry it used
to be. Patrick Ewing was a big man who could
hit the elbow, but he could post up. He was aggressive,
block and shot, Like where is that? That was regular?
(19:14):
Meaning he was him? It was David Robertson. It was
a keim e lajuwan, it was scheck. It can go
down the line. That wasn't just an anomaly where like,
oh we got Yo Kitsch, the one big guy who's
and unbid, who used post moves, you know what I mean, Like,
it was a multitude of post moves. It was a
multitude of point guards who got in the pain, who distributed.
It was a multitude of the guys who could shoot.
We had every type of way, type of game Kareem
with the skyhook.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
And we've lost that. We've lost the competitiveness.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And I just think all of these things, and lastly too,
all of these kids play. You're not a real You're
not you don't care about your game in current basketball.
If you're a teenager, if you don't have your own
private trainer, if you don't have your own personal private
trainer who's teaching you how to basically essentially find a
way to do a step back three. That's why they all,
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that's all they do and It's the reason why I
tell you, young people, I say the same thing. It
ain't me hayting just because I'm a little bit older
than you. It's that, Yes, I will give you if
these most of these guys can probably dribble better than
all the guys previously.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I'll give you that maybe a center can.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Dribble better than maybe, but they don't know how to
play basketball better than them.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
The actual play the game, win the game.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I can. I also give you. I want to give
you here. Here's a good comparison. This will help you.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
You ready, In twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, the Warriors three
point attempts per game?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
You ready take a guess in twenty.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Fifty sixteen, they're probably shooting about twenty.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Eight okay, close thirty one point six. They were first
in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
You got me, I don't even want to hear it.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
The Raptors in twenty four to twenty five are.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Averaging thirty one point one three point attempts per game.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Where do they rank compared to the Warriors were ranked
first at thirty one point six in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen,
the Raptors thirty one point one.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Now this season. What do they rank?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Are they twenty twentieth?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
How about dead last?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And there you go, thirty one point one is dead
last in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And is that I tell you something right there tells
you because everybody isn't made to shoot these things. And
that's the challenge too, is that you're telling them no
the money and I mean the analytics say this. So
then you got guys who should never be shooting these
shooting these because I won't get in trouble. The reason
why we didn't shoot when I played in high school
and when you were playing back in the day as
a kid and everybody was playing, or if you played it,
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and I don't care if it's elementary, high school or college,
it was a bad shot. And it's not that it's saying,
let's try to get an easier one. Let's work it
in and if it's there, it's there. If it's a
why open three, you gotta take it all right, give
what the defense you know, take it. But the ideentity
just come down and chuck it out the blue. And
it's something to say, abou LaMelo ball's fun to watch,
but it's a wonder why it's gifted as he is
(22:10):
his team ain't winning. You can't just take shots from
the logo all the time and think that's just a
great shot all the time.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Steph Curry is gifted. He works at it.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
He has a special gift literally the reason why he's
amazing to get golf. I guarantee you he is great
at darts. His hand eye coordination is special. I don't
need I don't need six foot ten guy I've never
even heard of, as I swear to I'm watching it
right now. That's what just happened, is I said it
this Atlanta. In the next game, some guy literally don't
even know just shooting the three, shooting three, Like what
(22:41):
are we doing there? And it becomes and slowly, slowly
but surely, fans are like, eh, it's not even funny, Moore,
it's not good anymore. And then again, I think low
management plays a role when guys are sitting down too.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
People definitely got turned off by that. They're paying big
money for.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Ten I'm going to y'all know, I'm all excited on it.
I don't push my date. Hey baby, let's just do
it Friday. It's a big game Thursday night on why
nobody's playing? Hey, I bought this ticket to take my
little son. It's gonna be the one time you go
to get nobody's playing. So I think all of these
things you added up, you slowly get a fan base
who has options. By the way, who has I can
just see the clips. I can just do prize picks.
(23:19):
I can just you know, I'll be on my phone
on YouTube, Instagram. It'll show me some clips later. And
I think it's starting to hurt the game a bit
a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
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Speaker 4 (23:39):
Here we go, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Let's do round two on this big babbing round two fight.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I'm gonna say, Bill Belichick is not going to turn
around UNC North Carolina Football, so sure how how long
he'll even be there? This could be the quickest handover
to his son one year. Say that it is three,
or say that whatever it is, and he'll.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Be in and out.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I just don't believe that the players will connect with him,
a seventy two year old.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I just think this is a fish out of water.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
This is a really weird hire at this point in
his life, where you know, players gravitate to some look
at the NFL, the younger, younger coaches, and now you're
gonna put even older. Mac Brown was seventy one who
they let go and they actually hired a guy older
(24:34):
than Mac Brown, if you could believe that.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I don't want to say that Bill.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Belichick is old, but I heard that they're putting his
office in the cemetery. I mean, like, come on, this
is bad, this is not this is not gonna work
out good.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
This is about his kid. This is about the kid.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
But also I think too, if it does have moderate
success early, what I think we've seen in all sports,
it's copycat leagues, and so I think he's gonna come
in there, and if he were to have some success early,
maybe he turns over some transfer portals and gets a
couple of kids.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
They're like, oh shoot he got a great quarterback. Oh
shoot he got that best running back.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
What's gonna happen is the bigger brands, to me are
gonna say, well, what are they doing well, Then let's
do that ourselves. Alabama will say, Oklahoma will say, Ohio
State will say, Michigan will say.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
They're gonna follow, and.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well, I'm saying, yeah, if they're saying paying these coming
out more, even dedicating more resources, actually putting out because
remember he's putting out saying I need them to be paid.
This not just like a singular player, like hey, we're
gonna get this quarterback.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
He's gonna need a million dollars. He saying, here's a
salary of these players.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I'm gonna need this, this, this, this, And I think
programs are just gonna emulate that they're gonna copy that
and then they're gonna maybe get more because they're bigger names.
And also year two ish, and he's sitting in your
living room.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
You know I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna be coaching.
You know, I want your son to come play for me.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And you're like, man, you ain't gonna be here that long.
And so maybe the idea that be knowing he's not
gonna be there so long. I don't want my son
to go play for him, because he's telling me, oh,
he's gonna be there, I gonna be his whole career,
and he's like, no, you're gonna be here another year too.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Manch That's why it was it's a hard recruit to
recruit him. A. He doesn't have that personality. B he's
such an older guy. You don't know how long you're
gonna be there. And do you really want to play
for his son? There's a lot of stuff there. I
just don't see how he's an attractive.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
And attract Okay, so the attraction is I know the league.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I've spent nearly forty years in the league as is
either assistant or a defensive coordinator or obviously a coach.
For all these years, I know the league and guess
who I know. I know all the agents, I know
all of these guys. That's still a lure, and that's
what is a geatin when he focused on making this
a professional thing. Similarly, again I mentioned earlier like I
(26:48):
amg or come img is you want to get to
college and go play at the top schools, come here,
you know, come to death Row and we're gonna get
you straight.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
That's gonna be his A lawy.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Is, So how did the NBA when they started that
league that they've now dissolved for uh league?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
The what was that? Rob g The Elite? What was that?
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Oh? The Elite? The tournament?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Remember they put together for people they were paying players,
right instead of going to their one year.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
College overtime elite.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, they've they've they've disbanded. I mean, like I'm just
trying to say, I hear you. But you could go
to Alabama, make it to the NFL. You can go
to Michigan. You don't have to go to u n
C for Bill Belichick to make it. If you're a
top player, you don't. You don't have to go there.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Right, But that's gonna be the sale is you can
code you can because let's say, you're right, what I mean,
you are Alabama.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
We don't pump people in the league. We know the Georgia.
But I can say if I'm Bill Belichick trying to,
you know, lure this kid. Yeah, they can get you
the playing time in the big platforms. I literally know
the guys. I literally can say, hey, you know, I
got this kid. You need to come see he's amazing. Hey,
I literally you need an agent. I noticed agent. He
used to represent Grunk, he used to represent Tom Brady.
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Like he's gonna sell people on that. Like, I'm literally
the pipeline to the league because I was the league
for twenty thirty, forty years, and that's gonna be the sale.
Now again, I think initially it may work and at
oh shoot, that's something different, and they're paying, and they
have agreed to pay. Not again, just hey, come here,
we'll figure it out.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Come here. This is exactly what the school said they're
gonna pay you.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
So initially I think there will be some you know,
just just like anything coach Prime, it works and it's
all fun in the beginning. I think again, then you
will have those blue bloods that say, man, I already
got the name. I'm Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma, Michigan, Ohio state.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Already got the name.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
And you know what, I just convinced my GM, I
mean athletic directors, to come and pay you and pay
this are running backs, top ten, top running backs, you're
gonna get this, top quarter two quarterback, You're gonna get this.
And I think he's gonna start to set the new trend.
That's a good copy it all. I think it's exact opposite.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
If I'm going in to recruit against Bill Belichick, I
tell those kids in that parent he's seventy two, Okay,
he's he's an older guy.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
He doesn't know, he's not hip, he doesn't know what's happening.
Blah blah blah. And then I would say, also, you
know he's on.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
He the reason he's at UNC is nobody wanted it
in the NFL. They looked at him as a dinosaur.
I mean, I'm just giving you what I would selling point.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm mister Washington right now, and that's here.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Tell me keep going.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, And and you don't want to get on this.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Dude can can decide he doesn't want to do this
in a drop of a dime. He's made all this money,
you know, and coaching in the NFL, and at any
point he could just go, you know what, this isn't
for me.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I don't want to care about grades and kids and
all this. Nil.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
This is just a headache, and I don't want to
do this. And you'll be you know, you'll be ass out,
you know, for the lack of a better word.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Out of he was a better word. It gotta be
Mike Tyson. You'll just be Mike Tyson, because that's it
right now. He had it all out. So by the way,
Covino and Rich for having Tyson on that was pretty
duble with him. By the way, Yeah, the only thing
I get. So the counter would be, you know, if
I get my visit and i'm Bill, then I'm gonna
say again, especially if he's getting transfer portal kids who
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are already year three and already made a little name
for themselves, You're right. I'm not gonna be here, you know, five, six,
seven years, But for the next three years, I'm going
to be the thing that gets guys in the league.
I'm going to be the guys that prepares you for
the NFL. I mean, he said, he says, I'm gonna
prepare you for money. Everybody else is gonna get you there.
(30:43):
I'm gonna teach you how Hey, here's the best financial
advisors and all that that. He talked about, how he
wants to prepare you for all things NFL, not just
your body to be a good player, but also what
it takes to be a pro, the discipline. So that's
gonna be his pitch. I just think ultimately it seems
like things like this don't work out when it's too
good on paper, right, meaning all time, you know, one
(31:05):
of the greatest coaches, if not the greatest coaches coming,
he's gonna do it. This way he's bringing his guys
and it's gonna be He's gonna be a pipeline. It
almost sounds too good to be true, which is why
I'm leaning on it not working because typically when things
were all like, oh, this is gonna work out.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I don't even see how people how they really look
at this and think we're hiring a seventy two year
old to relate to college kids.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I just find that to be mind boggling.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And I don't know if that Patricia is the guy
that relates to them as well.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
He doesn't strike as that.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I just and then all of his cronies.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You remember, I'll give you when Michael Jordan was a
part owner of the Wizards and all that, and he
brought all of his buddies into work, and you know,
it didn't work.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
That's what I mean. It just it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
It didn't work. And that was Michael Jordan and whatnot.
And you remember, people don't want to remember this a
poland fired Michael Jordan fired him.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
He is just because he's the greatest of all time.
But it's a different thing.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And and will they become grueling for a seventy two
year old meeting dude, you gotta travel and recruit and
go on people's June and then you gotta go here.
You gotta go, and obviously you'll have scouts to go
to high schools. But my point is this, Well, that's
what we always hear about college. It is a year
a minute. We literally see coaches win a bowl game,
win a national championship, d D D coaching, We got you?
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Just what is me get? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's so great. I love my university of love of school.
What's gonna go?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
What's on next? Well, I'll get on the plane tomorrow.
I gotta hit out. We got some recruit Like that's crazy?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Is he ready for that at seventy two and having
never done that at that level? Like, that's a whole
different bag.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I just again, I find this to be shocking that
Bill Belichick decided to go to a basketball school with
all of his friends and cronies and son.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's just having fun, Rob. Honestly, it's a it's a
win win situation. I'm about to get I'm about to
have full.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Ten million dollars? Is that is that? What?
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
That is the most unropped Parker thing you have ever said?
Ten million dollars is a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I'm about to go to a non football school, is
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
But the but the other thing is I'm having an.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
All time great NFL coach.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Is what I'm saying. That there there wasn't a better job.
There weren't another.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
School, but that would love to have Bill Bell That's
all I'm saying. This is not a football school.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
What I'm saying is you two things.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I think one this might be telling that the NFL
not that somebody again wasn't going to give him a
head coaching job. I think we both agree he could
got you know, maybe.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
One two jobs going to be available. Why would he
jump on this job?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Because at this point in his life. You've heard it
from people. At this point, it's called the all the
they call it quest. So and so is just doing
side quests at this point. At this point, Bill Belichick
is doing side quest. I've already coached, I've already won
a bunch of What can I do that? I will
let me name the most outlandish things. You got to you.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Gotta be there, you go, Okay, there you go.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
You just said, yeah, let.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Me get my son a job, Let me do this
let me bring my boys in, get them some jobs again,
because I don't even literally don't even know whe Matt
Patricia is. Let me get my boys. The boys are
back in town, and give me this, give me this,
give me this. Bring my one boy. You're you got
to poach him because he's already has a job. And
they literally said okay. And I think it's like, Oh,
I got everything I want. It's like, if you're building
a woman, she got to be this, she gotta be that,
(34:21):
she gotta look, she gotta cook, she gotta do this.
And then when I say I want it, she gives
it to me and we go here and she doesn't complain.
And it's like they weird science. This thing murder only
in the eighties. He weird science. The perfect opportunity where
he literally got everything he wants from a four page
manifesto bible and they gave it to him. So I
think it's a side court for him, Like, ay, what
else can I do?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I'm doing TV. It's fun. I'm hopping on everybody's podcast.
I'm hanging out with everybody. I'm doing commercials with Prize
Pixel and hanging out with Cameron and all these people
I think it just was like, let me throw this
out here outlandishly and see if I get it, and
he got it.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah, I don't think it's any of that.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I just think this was a play for his son,
and he decided to do it so that his son
and some of his friends who maybe are out of
work can get a job or whatever and that and
that's fine if that's what it is. I just don't
believe that going to UNC is And that's why everybody
discounted it when they first heard it.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Why would he be interested?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
And I don't know if he couldn't bring his friends
and family, would he be interested in UNC.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
That's even a tech.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I agree that might be like eighty five percent of
it is that I get to again have full carte
blanche do it how I want to do it.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
And maybe an NFL organization was not age.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
We want you to coach, sure, and you'll be in
the room when we talk about draftics and all. You'll
be in the room, but we not giving you all that,
especially considered you're not gonna be here forever. And so
I could see im like, what'screw, who's gonna give it
to me?
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