May 7, 2026 • 27 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why it’s not surprising at all that the New England Patriots are sticking with Mike Vrabel given that their franchise has a history of supporting cheaters, and tell us why Draymond Green proved last night that he’s actually a terrible television personality and is nothing more than a ‘Mean Girl’. Plus, host of the SNY digital NBA show, ‘The Putback’, Ian Begley, swings by to discuss the New York Knicks going up 2-0 on the Philadelphia 76ers, why the Cleveland Cavaliers are having so much trouble with the Detroit Pistons, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
So, Rob G, we need uh. There was a report
about the Patriots, about your favorite couple that we keep
getting stories about.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
My goodness, it's like Dynasty or Dallas Dallas, all those stories.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Those were like those were nighttime soap opers, right, and
somebody always wound up going down the stairs, you know
what I mean, Like like like that was the whole
everybody would fall down the staircase.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
That's a big fit.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But anyway, so the report, Rob G told us, what
when it comes to their coach, Mike Rabel, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
This is a big story. When the NBA played on it,
the NBA.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
Playoffs get pushed to the back burner because this is
the story that keeps signed.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I think it's you two. Y'all love this relations dripping
out news.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
When you're here, because when you hear stuff seriously, And
I'm not Kevin.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
This isn't a one time slipped, you know what I mean,
Like you caught me out about some sort of moment
me and my wife.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Was going through. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I know it's okay to ROGI some theories I have
about this.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Okay, this is bigger than that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And now you got to say how much stuff was
he given to feeding her? How long was this going on?
If you're the Tennessee Titans, was he the one leaking
all the information to her? If you're the Patriots, how
much does she know about an organization they're doing pillow talk?
Speaker 7 (01:50):
She must know everything that's going on at this point
all that time? Am I right not to mention? As
we talked about it a million times? That's why I
was shocked. The athletic was just like, oh, what you mean,
no big deal, dude.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You want to talk about a misstep by an executive.
He's fortunate, Yeah, because that was when we said it.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
At the time. I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Stood tall at us, not just a quick statement like
we're gonna investigate, we'll do it.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
She's been great with us. We're gonna do a find
out and do our work and no.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
They were like no.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
They were like no Ah. She said, why y'all blowing
it out of proportion? I was like, Okay.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
With all that in mind, here's the update guys. Yesterday
we touched on it briefly during the show. TMZ Sports
reported that six years ago, Russini and Rabel had signed
off for a boat rental. Privately, she was actually pregnant
during the time with her first child, and in fact,
earlier on Thursday, they had video evidence that shows the
two of them walking on the dock towards the boat.
(02:40):
She is super pregnant in that video. The reason why
this is a story now again today is for two reasons.
Number One, quarterback Drake May was asked about it during
a celebrity pro am golf tournament. Who was asked about
Vrabel in the situation and how it's spilled over into
the locker room, so on and so forth. I'm sure
to get to that. But number two, longtime NFL insider
(03:02):
Jason Lockinford has been covering the story, reported on Thursday
that despite all the controversy, all the salaciousness, all the
headlines surrounding their head coach Robert Kraft is in full
support of Mike Rabel, has no intention of putting him
on a sabbatical suspension, much less firing him. Mike Rabel going.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Nowhere no shocker that Mike Rabel's not going anywhere from
the Patriots. It's not because this is what this organization
is steeped in, cheating, deceitfulness, lowbrow, conniving.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
There's always something with this franchise and.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Is this on?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It's on the reason Robert Craft is not in the
Pro Football Hall of Fame despite winning six championships as
an owner is exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Why.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Is what we're experiencing now with Mike Rabel, It really is.
It speaks to the volume of where this franchise is
and what they value, which is not honesty. And that's
why he hasn't been rewarded. He won six championships as
an owner. He's been trying to get into the Pro
(04:26):
Football Hall of Fame for like over a decade and
they keep rejecting him. What would be the reason why?
It can't be because of football? Right, it's because of
the dirty dealing, backstabbing, cheating, unfaithful stuff that's gone on.
Of course, he's going to back his coach who didn't
(04:48):
slip up one time, but it decided that he was
going to have an ongoing affair allegedly with Diana Rush
I'm just saying, and it is the Patriot way. That's
(05:09):
why Robert Kraft, I hope you never get in because
the idea that, oh, well, because it wasn't an employee here,
It's okay.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
I get it. If it was an employee by be.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Pressured by the league because the league and the team
would be held responsible and she would be able to
sue them. But I'm not surprised. This is this is
right up the alley. This is the Patriots m O.
And then Drake May of all people to stand up there.
(05:46):
You want to back your coach, Kelvin, I'm cool with it.
You want to say, hey, it's a difficult time and
I feel for my coat. Did you see the quote
he's a great human being that he was cheating on
his wife and kids with somebody else's wife who has
kids as well. That's a great human being. You could
(06:09):
say and support them. Hey, going through a tough time,
and I'm gonna support my coach and I hope it
works out for the best of him and his family.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
He's a great human being, a guy who's deceitful, who
cheats on his family and cheats on his family with
a with a married woman, destroying that family as well.
Come on, man, come on, it sounds ridiculous, It sounds ludicrous.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Shoot.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I mean, I don't have much to act. You broke
it down with the soliloquy. I mean, really, it's just much.
It's a few things to just echo to what you
were saying. I mean, I think with Robert Craft, I think,
whether it be personally or how they've been running the
Patriots professionally, they've been there before. And what I mean
by that is we know they've had little real cheating
(07:00):
both figuring me in literally scandals. Uh how you know
from from the spy Gates to the flate Gates Aaron Hernett.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And every Barty.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Rumors were that Herring Hernette has had a lot of
baggage and some things going on. They decided to still
draft them, and then even just other small little things
throughout the time. And then you add on his own
personal stuff. Right, we know what happened, you know in
the the plaza, the massage place that somehow because for
him to be an owner that just went away. But
I think that's because the power of being a billionaire
being an owner that just kind of came and went.
(07:30):
And so I think there's an element of him being like, hey,
I've been there before. I know what it's like to
have these kind of you know, uh sedious deeds you know,
out there and kind of put people knowing your business.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I've been there.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Maybe he was there for him publicly, I mean privately
as a former player. You know, he was there for
me during my difficult times, shot me a call, shot
me at text, came and checked on me, you know,
as his former owner while he was a coach obviously
in Tennessee. And I think that might play role. Right,
I have this personal relationship with this guy. He was
one of my players and he's been a friend of mine.
So I think that's sticking up for friends, organizations, sticking
(08:02):
up for past players. And now you add into it,
Drake May, I think the kid got put in a
tough spot. I totally hear what you're saying, but I
think him being so young, he's not like a savvy veteran.
I think he just you know, this is why Rob
I'm gonna take the bigger approach to this. This is
why coaches harp on, gms, harp on organizations harp on
(08:23):
no distractions, because Drake May is trying to just play
in a golf tournament. Here, I am just trying to
have a golf tournament and that question comes to me.
And if it were a coach, they would bring this
back to the team and what would they say. See,
this is why we don't want distractions. This is why
we don't want stuff like this happening because it distracts
the team. We got to answer questions blah blah blah blah.
But this is because Drake May is a young guy.
(08:45):
I think he doesn't know how to you know, I
know how to handle it. I'm just I don't know
who they run up with. Mike's I love a coach.
He's a great guy, So I think that's not what
he's saying. It's a great human being. But I'm saying
I think when he's a young guy in a position
where he I don't know how to handle this, like
I'm not. They tell me what to do when there's
a blitz. They tell me what to do when they're
playing a Tampa too. I don't know how to handle
(09:06):
questions about you know, and that my bigger point taking
it more off of him is this is why this
is a scenario that Rabel has now put his star
quarterback in. Why I gotta answer questions like this and
then people like Rob and Kelvin have to even address
how I answered it, you know what I mean. If
this didn't never happened, we would be asking him how
do you bounce back from a Super Bowl loss? So
that's why a coach showing why there's supposed to be
(09:28):
no these types of the distractions, because now you have
your star quarterback answering it where people can now dissect
his answer and kind of be disappointed in his response.
So this is a prime example of why you're trying
to keep these distractions limited and limit them. So but again,
I don't think there's any surprise for me with Rob.
We you know, we talked about it in real time.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
What's happened?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Robert Craft's gonna stick by one of his guys. Tried
and true patriot, been there, blood, sweat, tears, won championships,
and now he's back in the fold, got them to
a super Bowl last season and not to mention Robert
Craft has his own you know, distraction.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Absolutely, I see him. He's gonna stand by him.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
But that to your larger point, there seems to always
be a cloud of something.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
That's why they don't get the respectized.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That's why they don't get the respect That's why Bill
Belichick didn't get it in the first ballance, That's why
Robert Kraft's not in the Hall of Fame. People know
what this organization is, and Mike Rabel's scandal is so
patriot like it fits. And then for them to act
like nothing happened. And for Robert Kraft, oh yeah, okay,
that's good. That's the guy you want leading your organization.
(10:33):
But then again, you're in charge of the organization, so
it fits.
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Well, speaking of forcing it, there's another person in the
basketball world who's been forcing into the last couple of days.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
No, no, no, just have to deal with him.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Then, Rob Parker's favorite player out of Michigan State.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
We can't even get away from him this game.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
He's from Raymond Money Green has been filling in for
Shaq on Inside the NBA, and last night during the broadcast,
Chuck said something to the effect of the Warriors run
is over. You guys are not gonna win a championship.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
You're too old.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Happens to everybody as great as you were thirty six,
thirty seven years old, it happens. Draymond didn't seem to
respond to that in a classy fashion.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Take a listen for young people.
Speaker 9 (11:57):
You hope to have a great, long career, but the
sports nobody wins when the thirty seven thirty eight you
said what you said, I didn't want to hear if
he believes what you're talking. Yeah, I mean I think
the goal is just to not look like you in
the Houston Rockets uniform. Yeah, it's untimilated goal for us,
like we don't want to what does that look like?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Did you see it? I'm just asking.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I saw it.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Nobody laughed because it wasn't funny.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It was it was If I'm gonna just be honest,
you know, I'm not with the podcast, right. If I'm
not with the podcast where people don't put effort in,
that's what I should say. Okay, if you're doing a
podcast and you're pushing back, and you're asking questions, and
you're giving some information and you're not doing inside jokes
and and all this kind of stuff, I'm okay. But
(12:49):
the idea that some TV executive I don't know where
where ESPN, wherever it could be, looks at Dre and
thinks that they have the next Charles Barkley. He's Charles
Barkley two point zero. They could not be more wrong.
I'm sorry because I don't get it. Charles Barkley. What
(13:12):
he said wasn't a rip on the Warriors. It was realistic.
He named all the other team he was, he was
real with It wasn't the Draymond, you suck. That's not
what the conversation was. Draymond sitting there, there's a conversation
about teams getting older, and that was natural.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Draymond turned into mean girl. He's just mean. He's not funny,
he's not insightful.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You can't say anything to him without him getting his
panties in a bunch. How is that good television? It
ain't good television. Even when Charles Barkley's ripping on something,
there's a degree of humor. He can laugh at hisself. Oh,
Draymond can't laugh at hisself. It's always me against everybody. Oh,
(14:00):
don't say that. You can't say anything to me. I'm
gonna cut you down. Nobody left on that set about
Charles Barkley in a Rocket uniform cause it wasn't funny.
You were just trying to be mean spirited because you've
been blessed to win four championships. I got news for
you. You went close to the talent. Charles Barkley was, honey,
(14:23):
not even close. So don't even like this whole idea.
You could go ahead and play that game. Charles never
won so he's not a great player. I'm sorry, I'm
not on that bus. I covered Charles Barkley during those years.
You need to pop into YouTube, go to YouTube, or
pop in a VHS tape and watch Charles Barkley MVP.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
He was a great player. He didn't win.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Everybody doesn't win. That doesn't make you better than him.
And for you to be so damn sensitive every time
somebody has something to say, it's pathetic.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, and you mentioned something.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
If you're gonna to be on TV, if you're gonna
be on radio, one of the things you have to
be is self deprecating.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
You know that we make fun of ourselves.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
We roast ourselves, or we roast you, you roast me,
We go rob g your leg swinging and all like
this is it's a part of it. Seriously, we make
boomerang breed you know it just it's what you it's
part of It's part of the game, if you will
and anytime. And that's why people get mad at Shacks
sometimes because Shak's always got the jokes and all that.
But anytime they bring up something or somebody roast some good,
(15:26):
what is it? You ain't gonna rings chuck and we
all go shack that. It's kind of as low bro
and low brows.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Don't get mad and shack got you good. And then
you you ain't got no rings like that, that's all
you ever can go to.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
You ain't got the rings. And it's the same thing
with Draymond.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It's like Austin Rivers said, dude, you're high IQ, you
got this, but what are you talking about that? He
you know, he stunted your career. Now you gotta go low.
Your daddy did this, and yet Chuck cracking. Chuck makes
a great point and then you, oh, you trying to
have a better creery. By the way, you know what,
Chuck was averaging them years like six eaten twelve, you
(16:03):
know what I mean, Like they were in the postseason.
So like, uh, y'all didn't make the postseason and you
weren't averaging sixteen to twelve, So uh, how do you
want to doesn't you want to look.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
At least look like that?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But did you did you hear the teams that he
mentioned when he talked about it Isaiah's pistons.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
It's when it ends six.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
He was say he did all the great teams.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's a point when it ends absolutely and so it's
all the great teams. And it's to me he's doing
a disservice too, because I feel like he's burning himself
at both ends of the candle right now. What I
mean by that is like you're you're obviously still playing,
so you're in the NBA and you're on the team,
but you're doing all this they're talking here and we
already talk about then you gotta go on apology to
(16:45):
our I said too much. Shouldn't have said this, should
have said that your team is struggling right now. And
it's to me, you're talking about your coach, Steve Well,
potential coach who knows Steve, Steve Kirk. So to me,
we're getting a place where it's like, dude, you're doing
too much. Your team ain't playing well right now. You
guys ruggle this year. You're talking too much about your
own coach, you're talking staff about other players. You're on
TV talking about too much with with Charles Barkley, who
(17:07):
should have earned the respect you know of that show,
has been the star of that show for twenty plus years.
So to me, Draymond is doing too much and he's
burning out at so many different angles, you know, and
fastest of his life right now. So again, I just
I've had enough. I'll pass. I'm okay, I'm with you,
I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
And in Charles's four years in Houston, averaging sixteen, twelve
and four, including averaging eighteen and twelve during their run
to the Western Conference Finals, so one, like dude, he was.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
It didn't even make sense. That's why I already knew this.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They were in the Western Comers Finals, they were in
the postseason. Y'all didn't make the postseason, like y'all haven't
looked great.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
And Dreda's putting up sixteen and twelve.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
And Draymond never averaged what a double digit rebounds?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Come on, man, stop it sie Chuck nice on that
one because I or.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
More than four team points ever and he's acting like.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And that was the end of Charles too right right
we again, if you're I just don't the TV executive.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
I want people to say stuff. I don't want everything
to be agree.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I don't want everybody to be singing kombah yah and
everybody's great.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
We we're not. That's not what we're looking for.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
But to just be mean, just to be mean, I
don't know what the appeal is in that. And Charles
can't say anything to you without you being offended.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's gonna be a long eighty two game season if
anytime somebody says, man his knees about shot like yours
and your dude, that's you gotta and it's there is
And by the way, there is a talent to it.
I know, people don't think that Charles Barkley is talented
on television. He's not just goofy. He knows exactly what
he's doing. He knows what to say, when to say it,
how to say it, and obviously he's being authentically himself.
(18:50):
But there is a talent. And just because you're like
tough guy, you know, loud guy, and I mean, it
doesn't mean you're gonna be great TV, doesn't mean you're
gonna be great podcast and again, and then that's the
point too.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Are you a player? Are you on TV? What are
you doing?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Because you're being hyper sensitive for a player when part
of being a player is being critiqued.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
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Speaker 4 (19:28):
How you doing?
Speaker 10 (19:29):
What's happening with Sallis?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Rob?
Speaker 10 (19:31):
What's up? Man?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
What's happening? We used to work together ESPN New York.
I know not.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I am officially on the list now, So one day
somebody's gonna say, kelvin Washington, you're gonna say, yeah, we
used to work together at a show together.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
What hey, Hey, I'm honest to be on that list.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
No doubt, no doubt, and we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I was just gonna start, well, let's start a last
night's game over that A couple of them, but I
want to jump to the Knicks. They obviously in a
close one, Rob and I thought this will come out
and fight, but they had a chance. I didn't like
the way they closed the last few minutes. Three, But
what are you making this series? And now, especially with
og On Andobi being banged up, we don't know exactly
what the issue is well, I mean hamstring, We don't
(20:12):
know how long, I should say, right, right.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Right, So I think, you know, if emb plays on Friday,
Knicks are gonna have their handsful, especially if panon Obi
is out, because to me, that Sixers team looked very
good against the Knicks, and I think they just kind
of ran out of gas. Not to make excuses for them,
but you know, you saw the shooting percentage in the
fourth quarter. I thought they got some good looks. So
I expected to be a competitive game in Philadelphia tomorrow
(20:38):
with Ojen and Oby. He is day to day, but
I do think there's some optimism that he could be
back Sunday, so it shouldn't be a long term thing
for Aanton Oby. But nonetheless, yeah, Nicks obviously would love
to put this series in a choke hold and go
up three to zero. But I do think with MAXI,
if he's healthy, I think the Knicks will have their
(21:01):
hands For one thing, I'm actually he heard his finger
late in the first past of Game two, and he
really wasn't the same second half of Game two. So
that's something I'm keeping an eye on moving forward to
Game three.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
And it's funny because it wasn't long ago even we
talked about on the show.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know, the Knicks were sputtering, losing back to back
one point, right was at one point games there with Atlanta,
and people are like, all this team, they don't really
like each other, there's question marks, all this other stuff.
They get the blowout win and whatnot, and then something
clicked or turned for the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I'm still a nick skeptic, Like I won't me too.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I won't believe that they're in the finals until the
first quarter is over and they're.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
In the finals, you know what I mean? Like that,
I got to have that much for.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Me to believe.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It's not a joke.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
But anyway, Uh, people came into this season thinking that
this was the year everybody's banged up. Halliburn's heard Milwaukee,
the Celtics, right, Tatum and then Milwaukee right, not that
great as well, it's all too young.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
It was supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
There for them, and now they might wind up doing
what people thought they could have a chance to do.
Speaker 10 (22:13):
Yeah, they're in a good spot right now. I think
between the debts and the level that they're playing on
both sides of the ball. You know, they have Curlyty
Towns at the top of the floor using him as
a hub on offense. I think that's made a difference.
They've gotten some great individual defensive performances. And you know,
they talk a lot about just being locked into the
details now, but I don't think that's everything. I think,
(22:37):
you know, part of it is towns, and part of
it is people just up and down the roster, kind
of knowing what they're supposed to do, knowing when they're
gonna get the ball or get shots. And I think
there's more of a harmony now with this Nick team.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, I'll give a credit to Mike Brown. That one
thing I appreciated about them a lot of teams don't
want to do, is he made adjustments and he said,
we're gonna start going through catmore. We're gonna have him
at the high post, let him become a distributor. And
I think that's really unlocked their offense a little bit.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
He is Ian.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Begley is the host of the S and Y Digital
NBA show They'll put back, and of course he's covering
the Knicks as well for US and Y. So let
me go to this one we're watching right now as
of just now. Buckets twenty five fourteen, a minute left
in the first Pistons up on the Calves.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I don't like the Calves.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I don't think they have that toughness, that grit going
into this series for me, But they have talent Donovan Mitchell,
James Harden and the bigs they have.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
What do you make of this this series? What do
you expect?
Speaker 10 (23:35):
You know, after Detroit got up off the mat against Orlando,
I just think they they're getting closer and closer back
to the team that we saw in the regular season,
and that's gonna be hard for Cleveland to get through.
I mean, what I'd look at, I guess is margin
of victory here for the Pistons. I do think they'll
get through it. I don't know how long it'll take.
(23:55):
But if they start to really separate themselves against Cleveland,
I think the Knicks they're gonna have a tough tough
time with the Pistons home court advantage if the Knicks
get through, if the Pistons get through, But yeah, I
do think. You look at Kate Cunningham and he was
getting criticized early in that Orlando series. I thought he
played well, he just didn't have enough help. And Tobias
(24:16):
Harris has played some big, big games, big minutes for
this Pistons team that's produced. So I think, you know,
those two and then the surrounding cast. I think they
have enough to get through Cleveland and they're going to
be a very tough out in the conference final.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
The only problem I had with the Pistons is Kate had,
you know, the three games where we had twenty four turnover,
so there was reason to kind of criticize him there.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
And the Pistons shooting has been spotting.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Now when they're making shots, they're gonna be harder to beat,
but we saw some of the flaws early on in
that Orlando series.
Speaker 10 (24:50):
Yeah, no, there's no doubt. And also some of the
guys who they counted on throughout the regular season are
younger players and not really playoff tested, and so that's
where I had questions. Like the Danish Sinkinses of the world,
they had Ron Holland, they had a lot of guys
who they relied on regular seasons, but this is going
to be their first rodeo. So that's where my questions were.
(25:11):
But I really think, you know, Cunningham just such a
good player. I really think that anybody's gonna have their
hands full with him, whether it's the Knicks or next round,
but obviously Cleveland this round.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
If the Knicks don't get there, I think it will
be hell to pay because I'm serious, like, there's an
expectation like last year and you're closer to it. On
this very radio show, and Kevin will tell you, I
said that Tim should be fired. I really did, because
(25:42):
once they beat the Celtics last year, people were expecting
them to get there, and then they had those two
horrible home losses to open up against the Pacers, and
I'm like, if you don't get fired off of that,
I don't know what you're going to get fired off of.
And now Mike Brown comes in, they're in that spot.
People are looking at it saying there's a pathway here.
If they don't get there's going to be another one
(26:02):
to make people not believe in this team.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
Look, I mean Mike Brown his edicts, his finals and
winning the finals, but certainly get there because you know
we talked about Tom said he got them to the
conference final last year for the first time in twenty
five years. And so when you go ahead, then you
let your head coach go in that scenario next yek
coming in expectations of sky high, and Mike Brown knows
(26:26):
where the expectations are. And you know, look, James Dolan,
the owner, went on ws AN saying he expects them
to make the finals and to win the finals. So
there's no gray area here. It's very clear where this
team needs to go in order to be deemed successful
by the owner. Anything short of that, and I'm sure
changes are coming.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I didn't know WFA wasted airtime, but that's another story.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
We'll get to Ian down the road.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
We know you've got to trying to catch I was
going to ask you when you go to Philadelphia, do
you hop on the train and that's the best way
to get there?
Speaker 10 (26:58):
Yeah? Nice and easy man, and Asella, it's a breeze
all right in about ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Go ahead, and let us know if those Knicks fans
take over Philly like they always doing beads, like, I'll
buy your tickets, don't sell them, he appreciated. Man, Thank you,
all right, fellas out you know it's bad rob when
a star player like hey, please just don't say like
I'll
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Give you money for him, please,
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
So, Rob G, we need uh. There was a report
about the Patriots, about your favorite couple that we keep
getting stories about.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
My goodness, it's like Dynasty or Dallas Dallas, all those stories.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Those were like those were nighttime soap opers, right, and
somebody always wound up going down the stairs, you know
what I mean, Like like like that was the whole
everybody would fall down the staircase.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
That's a big fit.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But anyway, so the report, Rob G told us, what
when it comes to their coach, Mike Rabel, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
This is a big story. When the NBA played on it,
the NBA.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
Playoffs get pushed to the back burner because this is
the story that keeps signed.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I think it's you two. Y'all love this relations dripping
out news.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
When you're here, because when you hear stuff seriously, And
I'm not Kevin.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
This isn't a one time slipped, you know what I mean,
Like you caught me out about some sort of moment
me and my wife.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Was going through. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I know it's okay to ROGI some theories I have
about this.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Okay, this is bigger than that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And now you got to say how much stuff was
he given to feeding her? How long was this going on?
If you're the Tennessee Titans, was he the one leaking
all the information to her? If you're the Patriots, how
much does she know about an organization they're doing pillow talk?
Speaker 7 (01:50):
She must know everything that's going on at this point
all that time? Am I right not to mention? As
we talked about it a million times? That's why I
was shocked. The athletic was just like, oh, what you mean,
no big deal, dude.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You want to talk about a misstep by an executive.
He's fortunate, Yeah, because that was when we said it.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
At the time. I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Stood tall at us, not just a quick statement like
we're gonna investigate, we'll do it.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
She's been great with us. We're gonna do a find
out and do our work and no.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
They were like no.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
They were like no Ah. She said, why y'all blowing
it out of proportion? I was like, Okay.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
With all that in mind, here's the update guys. Yesterday
we touched on it briefly during the show. TMZ Sports
reported that six years ago, Russini and Rabel had signed
off for a boat rental. Privately, she was actually pregnant
during the time with her first child, and in fact,
earlier on Thursday, they had video evidence that shows the
two of them walking on the dock towards the boat.
(02:40):
She is super pregnant in that video. The reason why
this is a story now again today is for two reasons.
Number One, quarterback Drake May was asked about it during
a celebrity pro am golf tournament. Who was asked about
Vrabel in the situation and how it's spilled over into
the locker room, so on and so forth. I'm sure
to get to that. But number two, longtime NFL insider
(03:02):
Jason Lockinford has been covering the story, reported on Thursday
that despite all the controversy, all the salaciousness, all the
headlines surrounding their head coach Robert Kraft is in full
support of Mike Rabel, has no intention of putting him
on a sabbatical suspension, much less firing him. Mike Rabel going.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Nowhere no shocker that Mike Rabel's not going anywhere from
the Patriots. It's not because this is what this organization
is steeped in, cheating, deceitfulness, lowbrow, conniving.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
There's always something with this franchise and.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Is this on?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It's on the reason Robert Craft is not in the
Pro Football Hall of Fame despite winning six championships as
an owner is exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Why.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Is what we're experiencing now with Mike Rabel, It really is.
It speaks to the volume of where this franchise is
and what they value, which is not honesty. And that's
why he hasn't been rewarded. He won six championships as
an owner. He's been trying to get into the Pro
(04:26):
Football Hall of Fame for like over a decade and
they keep rejecting him. What would be the reason why?
It can't be because of football? Right, it's because of
the dirty dealing, backstabbing, cheating, unfaithful stuff that's gone on.
Of course, he's going to back his coach who didn't
(04:48):
slip up one time, but it decided that he was
going to have an ongoing affair allegedly with Diana Rush
I'm just saying, and it is the Patriot way. That's
(05:09):
why Robert Kraft, I hope you never get in because
the idea that, oh, well, because it wasn't an employee here,
It's okay.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
I get it. If it was an employee by be.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Pressured by the league because the league and the team
would be held responsible and she would be able to
sue them. But I'm not surprised. This is this is
right up the alley. This is the Patriots m O.
And then Drake May of all people to stand up there.
(05:46):
You want to back your coach, Kelvin, I'm cool with it.
You want to say, hey, it's a difficult time and
I feel for my coat. Did you see the quote
he's a great human being that he was cheating on
his wife and kids with somebody else's wife who has
kids as well. That's a great human being. You could
(06:09):
say and support them. Hey, going through a tough time,
and I'm gonna support my coach and I hope it
works out for the best of him and his family.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
He's a great human being, a guy who's deceitful, who
cheats on his family and cheats on his family with
a with a married woman, destroying that family as well.
Come on, man, come on, it sounds ridiculous, It sounds ludicrous.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Shoot.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I mean, I don't have much to act. You broke
it down with the soliloquy. I mean, really, it's just much.
It's a few things to just echo to what you
were saying. I mean, I think with Robert Craft, I think,
whether it be personally or how they've been running the
Patriots professionally, they've been there before. And what I mean
by that is we know they've had little real cheating
(07:00):
both figuring me in literally scandals. Uh how you know
from from the spy Gates to the flate Gates Aaron Hernett.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And every Barty.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Rumors were that Herring Hernette has had a lot of
baggage and some things going on. They decided to still
draft them, and then even just other small little things
throughout the time. And then you add on his own
personal stuff. Right, we know what happened, you know in
the the plaza, the massage place that somehow because for
him to be an owner that just went away. But
I think that's because the power of being a billionaire
being an owner that just kind of came and went.
(07:30):
And so I think there's an element of him being like, hey,
I've been there before. I know what it's like to
have these kind of you know, uh sedious deeds you know,
out there and kind of put people knowing your business.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I've been there.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Maybe he was there for him publicly, I mean privately
as a former player. You know, he was there for
me during my difficult times, shot me a call, shot
me at text, came and checked on me, you know,
as his former owner while he was a coach obviously
in Tennessee. And I think that might play role. Right,
I have this personal relationship with this guy. He was
one of my players and he's been a friend of mine.
So I think that's sticking up for friends, organizations, sticking
(08:02):
up for past players. And now you add into it,
Drake May, I think the kid got put in a
tough spot. I totally hear what you're saying, but I
think him being so young, he's not like a savvy veteran.
I think he just you know, this is why Rob
I'm gonna take the bigger approach to this. This is
why coaches harp on, gms, harp on organizations harp on
(08:23):
no distractions, because Drake May is trying to just play
in a golf tournament. Here, I am just trying to
have a golf tournament and that question comes to me.
And if it were a coach, they would bring this
back to the team and what would they say. See,
this is why we don't want distractions. This is why
we don't want stuff like this happening because it distracts
the team. We got to answer questions blah blah blah blah.
But this is because Drake May is a young guy.
(08:45):
I think he doesn't know how to you know, I
know how to handle it. I'm just I don't know
who they run up with. Mike's I love a coach.
He's a great guy, So I think that's not what
he's saying. It's a great human being. But I'm saying
I think when he's a young guy in a position
where he I don't know how to handle this, like
I'm not. They tell me what to do when there's
a blitz. They tell me what to do when they're
playing a Tampa too. I don't know how to handle
(09:06):
questions about you know, and that my bigger point taking
it more off of him is this is why this
is a scenario that Rabel has now put his star
quarterback in. Why I gotta answer questions like this and
then people like Rob and Kelvin have to even address
how I answered it, you know what I mean. If
this didn't never happened, we would be asking him how
do you bounce back from a Super Bowl loss? So
that's why a coach showing why there's supposed to be
(09:28):
no these types of the distractions, because now you have
your star quarterback answering it where people can now dissect
his answer and kind of be disappointed in his response.
So this is a prime example of why you're trying
to keep these distractions limited and limit them. So but again,
I don't think there's any surprise for me with Rob.
We you know, we talked about it in real time.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
What's happened?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Robert Craft's gonna stick by one of his guys. Tried
and true patriot, been there, blood, sweat, tears, won championships,
and now he's back in the fold, got them to
a super Bowl last season and not to mention Robert
Craft has his own you know, distraction.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Absolutely, I see him. He's gonna stand by him.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
But that to your larger point, there seems to always
be a cloud of something.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
That's why they don't get the respectized.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That's why they don't get the respect That's why Bill
Belichick didn't get it in the first ballance, That's why
Robert Kraft's not in the Hall of Fame. People know
what this organization is, and Mike Rabel's scandal is so
patriot like it fits. And then for them to act
like nothing happened. And for Robert Kraft, oh yeah, okay,
that's good. That's the guy you want leading your organization.
(10:33):
But then again, you're in charge of the organization, so
it fits.
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Well, speaking of forcing it, there's another person in the
basketball world who's been forcing into the last couple of days.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
No, no, no, just have to deal with him.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Then, Rob Parker's favorite player out of Michigan State.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
We can't even get away from him this game.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
He's from Raymond Money Green has been filling in for
Shaq on Inside the NBA, and last night during the broadcast,
Chuck said something to the effect of the Warriors run
is over. You guys are not gonna win a championship.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
You're too old.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Happens to everybody as great as you were thirty six,
thirty seven years old, it happens. Draymond didn't seem to
respond to that in a classy fashion.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Take a listen for young people.
Speaker 9 (11:57):
You hope to have a great, long career, but the
sports nobody wins when the thirty seven thirty eight you
said what you said, I didn't want to hear if
he believes what you're talking. Yeah, I mean I think
the goal is just to not look like you in
the Houston Rockets uniform. Yeah, it's untimilated goal for us,
like we don't want to what does that look like?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Did you see it? I'm just asking.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I saw it.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Nobody laughed because it wasn't funny.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It was it was If I'm gonna just be honest,
you know, I'm not with the podcast, right. If I'm
not with the podcast where people don't put effort in,
that's what I should say. Okay, if you're doing a
podcast and you're pushing back, and you're asking questions, and
you're giving some information and you're not doing inside jokes
and and all this kind of stuff, I'm okay. But
(12:49):
the idea that some TV executive I don't know where
where ESPN, wherever it could be, looks at Dre and
thinks that they have the next Charles Barkley. He's Charles
Barkley two point zero. They could not be more wrong.
I'm sorry because I don't get it. Charles Barkley. What
(13:12):
he said wasn't a rip on the Warriors. It was realistic.
He named all the other team he was, he was
real with It wasn't the Draymond, you suck. That's not
what the conversation was. Draymond sitting there, there's a conversation
about teams getting older, and that was natural.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Draymond turned into mean girl. He's just mean. He's not funny,
he's not insightful.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You can't say anything to him without him getting his
panties in a bunch. How is that good television? It
ain't good television. Even when Charles Barkley's ripping on something,
there's a degree of humor. He can laugh at hisself. Oh,
Draymond can't laugh at hisself. It's always me against everybody. Oh,
(14:00):
don't say that. You can't say anything to me. I'm
gonna cut you down. Nobody left on that set about
Charles Barkley in a Rocket uniform cause it wasn't funny.
You were just trying to be mean spirited because you've
been blessed to win four championships. I got news for
you. You went close to the talent. Charles Barkley was, honey,
(14:23):
not even close. So don't even like this whole idea.
You could go ahead and play that game. Charles never
won so he's not a great player. I'm sorry, I'm
not on that bus. I covered Charles Barkley during those years.
You need to pop into YouTube, go to YouTube, or
pop in a VHS tape and watch Charles Barkley MVP.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
He was a great player. He didn't win.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Everybody doesn't win. That doesn't make you better than him.
And for you to be so damn sensitive every time
somebody has something to say, it's pathetic.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, and you mentioned something.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
If you're gonna to be on TV, if you're gonna
be on radio, one of the things you have to
be is self deprecating.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
You know that we make fun of ourselves.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
We roast ourselves, or we roast you, you roast me,
We go rob g your leg swinging and all like
this is it's a part of it. Seriously, we make
boomerang breed you know it just it's what you it's
part of It's part of the game, if you will
and anytime. And that's why people get mad at Shacks
sometimes because Shak's always got the jokes and all that.
But anytime they bring up something or somebody roast some good,
(15:26):
what is it? You ain't gonna rings chuck and we
all go shack that. It's kind of as low bro
and low brows.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Don't get mad and shack got you good. And then
you you ain't got no rings like that, that's all
you ever can go to.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
You ain't got the rings. And it's the same thing
with Draymond.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It's like Austin Rivers said, dude, you're high IQ, you
got this, but what are you talking about that? He
you know, he stunted your career. Now you gotta go low.
Your daddy did this, and yet Chuck cracking. Chuck makes
a great point and then you, oh, you trying to
have a better creery. By the way, you know what,
Chuck was averaging them years like six eaten twelve, you
(16:03):
know what I mean, Like they were in the postseason.
So like, uh, y'all didn't make the postseason and you
weren't averaging sixteen to twelve, So uh, how do you
want to doesn't you want to look.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
At least look like that?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But did you did you hear the teams that he
mentioned when he talked about it Isaiah's pistons.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
It's when it ends six.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
He was say he did all the great teams.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's a point when it ends absolutely and so it's
all the great teams. And it's to me he's doing
a disservice too, because I feel like he's burning himself
at both ends of the candle right now. What I
mean by that is like you're you're obviously still playing,
so you're in the NBA and you're on the team,
but you're doing all this they're talking here and we
already talk about then you gotta go on apology to
(16:45):
our I said too much. Shouldn't have said this, should
have said that your team is struggling right now. And
it's to me, you're talking about your coach, Steve Well,
potential coach who knows Steve, Steve Kirk. So to me,
we're getting a place where it's like, dude, you're doing
too much. Your team ain't playing well right now. You
guys ruggle this year. You're talking too much about your
own coach, you're talking staff about other players. You're on
TV talking about too much with with Charles Barkley, who
(17:07):
should have earned the respect you know of that show,
has been the star of that show for twenty plus years.
So to me, Draymond is doing too much and he's
burning out at so many different angles, you know, and
fastest of his life right now. So again, I just
I've had enough. I'll pass. I'm okay, I'm with you,
I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
And in Charles's four years in Houston, averaging sixteen, twelve
and four, including averaging eighteen and twelve during their run
to the Western Conference Finals, so one, like dude, he was.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
It didn't even make sense. That's why I already knew this.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They were in the Western Comers Finals, they were in
the postseason. Y'all didn't make the postseason, like y'all haven't
looked great.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
And Dreda's putting up sixteen and twelve.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
And Draymond never averaged what a double digit rebounds?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Come on, man, stop it sie Chuck nice on that
one because I or.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
More than four team points ever and he's acting like.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And that was the end of Charles too right right
we again, if you're I just don't the TV executive.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
I want people to say stuff. I don't want everything
to be agree.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I don't want everybody to be singing kombah yah and
everybody's great.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
We we're not. That's not what we're looking for.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
But to just be mean, just to be mean, I
don't know what the appeal is in that. And Charles
can't say anything to you without you being offended.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's gonna be a long eighty two game season if
anytime somebody says, man his knees about shot like yours
and your dude, that's you gotta and it's there is
And by the way, there is a talent to it.
I know, people don't think that Charles Barkley is talented
on television. He's not just goofy. He knows exactly what
he's doing. He knows what to say, when to say it,
how to say it, and obviously he's being authentically himself.
(18:50):
But there is a talent. And just because you're like
tough guy, you know, loud guy, and I mean, it
doesn't mean you're gonna be great TV, doesn't mean you're
gonna be great podcast and again, and then that's the
point too.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Are you a player? Are you on TV? What are
you doing?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Because you're being hyper sensitive for a player when part
of being a player is being critiqued.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
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Speaker 1 (19:20):
And we're now joined by Ian Begley, reporter covering the
NIXT man NBA at large. We can talk about a
bunch of stuff happening in the playoffs and what's going on?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
How you doing?
Speaker 10 (19:29):
What's happening with Sallis?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Rob?
Speaker 10 (19:31):
What's up? Man?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
What's happening? We used to work together ESPN New York.
I know not.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I am officially on the list now, So one day
somebody's gonna say, kelvin Washington, you're gonna say, yeah, we
used to work together at a show together.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
What hey, Hey, I'm honest to be on that list.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
No doubt, no doubt, and we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I was just gonna start, well, let's start a last
night's game over that A couple of them, but I
want to jump to the Knicks. They obviously in a
close one, Rob and I thought this will come out
and fight, but they had a chance. I didn't like
the way they closed the last few minutes. Three, But
what are you making this series? And now, especially with
og On Andobi being banged up, we don't know exactly
what the issue is well, I mean hamstring, We don't
(20:12):
know how long, I should say, right, right.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Right, So I think, you know, if emb plays on Friday,
Knicks are gonna have their handsful, especially if panon Obi
is out, because to me, that Sixers team looked very
good against the Knicks, and I think they just kind
of ran out of gas. Not to make excuses for them,
but you know, you saw the shooting percentage in the
fourth quarter. I thought they got some good looks. So
I expected to be a competitive game in Philadelphia tomorrow
(20:38):
with Ojen and Oby. He is day to day, but
I do think there's some optimism that he could be
back Sunday, so it shouldn't be a long term thing
for Aanton Oby. But nonetheless, yeah, Nicks obviously would love
to put this series in a choke hold and go
up three to zero. But I do think with MAXI,
if he's healthy, I think the Knicks will have their
(21:01):
hands For one thing, I'm actually he heard his finger
late in the first past of Game two, and he
really wasn't the same second half of Game two. So
that's something I'm keeping an eye on moving forward to
Game three.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
And it's funny because it wasn't long ago even we
talked about on the show.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know, the Knicks were sputtering, losing back to back
one point, right was at one point games there with Atlanta,
and people are like, all this team, they don't really
like each other, there's question marks, all this other stuff.
They get the blowout win and whatnot, and then something
clicked or turned for the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I'm still a nick skeptic, Like I won't me too.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I won't believe that they're in the finals until the
first quarter is over and they're.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
In the finals, you know what I mean? Like that,
I got to have that much for.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Me to believe.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It's not a joke.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
But anyway, Uh, people came into this season thinking that
this was the year everybody's banged up. Halliburn's heard Milwaukee,
the Celtics, right, Tatum and then Milwaukee right, not that
great as well, it's all too young.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
It was supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
There for them, and now they might wind up doing
what people thought they could have a chance to do.
Speaker 10 (22:13):
Yeah, they're in a good spot right now. I think
between the debts and the level that they're playing on
both sides of the ball. You know, they have Curlyty
Towns at the top of the floor using him as
a hub on offense. I think that's made a difference.
They've gotten some great individual defensive performances. And you know,
they talk a lot about just being locked into the
details now, but I don't think that's everything. I think,
(22:37):
you know, part of it is towns, and part of
it is people just up and down the roster, kind
of knowing what they're supposed to do, knowing when they're
gonna get the ball or get shots. And I think
there's more of a harmony now with this Nick team.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, I'll give a credit to Mike Brown. That one
thing I appreciated about them a lot of teams don't
want to do, is he made adjustments and he said,
we're gonna start going through catmore. We're gonna have him
at the high post, let him become a distributor. And
I think that's really unlocked their offense a little bit.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
He is Ian.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Begley is the host of the S and Y Digital
NBA show They'll put back, and of course he's covering
the Knicks as well for US and Y. So let
me go to this one we're watching right now as
of just now. Buckets twenty five fourteen, a minute left
in the first Pistons up on the Calves.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I don't like the Calves.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I don't think they have that toughness, that grit going
into this series for me, But they have talent Donovan Mitchell,
James Harden and the bigs they have.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
What do you make of this this series? What do
you expect?
Speaker 10 (23:35):
You know, after Detroit got up off the mat against Orlando,
I just think they they're getting closer and closer back
to the team that we saw in the regular season,
and that's gonna be hard for Cleveland to get through.
I mean, what I'd look at, I guess is margin
of victory here for the Pistons. I do think they'll
get through it. I don't know how long it'll take.
(23:55):
But if they start to really separate themselves against Cleveland,
I think the Knicks they're gonna have a tough tough
time with the Pistons home court advantage if the Knicks
get through, if the Pistons get through, But yeah, I
do think. You look at Kate Cunningham and he was
getting criticized early in that Orlando series. I thought he
played well, he just didn't have enough help. And Tobias
(24:16):
Harris has played some big, big games, big minutes for
this Pistons team that's produced. So I think, you know,
those two and then the surrounding cast. I think they
have enough to get through Cleveland and they're going to
be a very tough out in the conference final.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
The only problem I had with the Pistons is Kate had,
you know, the three games where we had twenty four turnover,
so there was reason to kind of criticize him there.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
And the Pistons shooting has been spotting.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Now when they're making shots, they're gonna be harder to beat,
but we saw some of the flaws early on in
that Orlando series.
Speaker 10 (24:50):
Yeah, no, there's no doubt. And also some of the
guys who they counted on throughout the regular season are
younger players and not really playoff tested, and so that's
where I had questions. Like the Danish Sinkinses of the world,
they had Ron Holland, they had a lot of guys
who they relied on regular seasons, but this is going
to be their first rodeo. So that's where my questions were.
(25:11):
But I really think, you know, Cunningham just such a
good player. I really think that anybody's gonna have their
hands full with him, whether it's the Knicks or next round,
but obviously Cleveland this round.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
If the Knicks don't get there, I think it will
be hell to pay because I'm serious, like, there's an
expectation like last year and you're closer to it. On
this very radio show, and Kevin will tell you, I
said that Tim should be fired. I really did, because
(25:42):
once they beat the Celtics last year, people were expecting
them to get there, and then they had those two
horrible home losses to open up against the Pacers, and
I'm like, if you don't get fired off of that,
I don't know what you're going to get fired off of.
And now Mike Brown comes in, they're in that spot.
People are looking at it saying there's a pathway here.
If they don't get there's going to be another one
(26:02):
to make people not believe in this team.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
Look, I mean Mike Brown his edicts, his finals and
winning the finals, but certainly get there because you know
we talked about Tom said he got them to the
conference final last year for the first time in twenty
five years. And so when you go ahead, then you
let your head coach go in that scenario next yek
coming in expectations of sky high, and Mike Brown knows
(26:26):
where the expectations are. And you know, look, James Dolan,
the owner, went on ws AN saying he expects them
to make the finals and to win the finals. So
there's no gray area here. It's very clear where this
team needs to go in order to be deemed successful
by the owner. Anything short of that, and I'm sure
changes are coming.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I didn't know WFA wasted airtime, but that's another story.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
We'll get to Ian down the road.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
We know you've got to trying to catch I was
going to ask you when you go to Philadelphia, do
you hop on the train and that's the best way
to get there?
Speaker 10 (26:58):
Yeah? Nice and easy man, and Asella, it's a breeze
all right in about ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Go ahead, and let us know if those Knicks fans
take over Philly like they always doing beads, like, I'll
buy your tickets, don't sell them, he appreciated. Man, Thank you,
all right, fellas out you know it's bad rob when
a star player like hey, please just don't say like
I'll
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Give you money for him, please,
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