May 8, 2026 • 26 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why the Game 2 officiating debacle was Exhibit A why basketball fans at-large hate the Oklahoma City Thunder, tell us why it’s premature to even suggest that Anthony Edwards has already surpassed Kevin Garnett as the greatest player in Minnesota Timberwolves franchise history, and debate whether the WNBA at-large still has it out for Caitlin Clark.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I don't want to make it seem like it's so
because I'm the resident Laker fan on this show. It
is a great But when you have Legion of Hoops,
when you have ESPN, when you have bet MGM, when
you have Bleach your freaking foot locker weighing in on
the officiating in that game, you know it's gone bad.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
In case you lived under a rock, last night, Game two,
Oklahoma City wins going away as they.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Were expecting to it. The Lakers didn't cover the fifteen
and the hour. I couldn't do that, and couldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
No.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oklahoma City closed for most of the game, and they
pulled away in the third and fourth quarter win going away.
But all anybody wanted to talk about was the Oklahoma
City Thunder and what they do to the officiating on
two hands one number one. They will grab, clutch, hold, elbow,
whatever it takes. On the defensive end, it's part of
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what makes them such an elite defensive team.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Kudos to them.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
But on the flip side, on the offensive end, they
will flop and flail and whine and cry and do
all the things that people hate about today's NBA.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
It was so bad.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
You had Austin Reeves calling the official a word I
can't say on the air and have a powow with
him after the game and in the postgame, JJ Reddick
let his frustrations be known.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Yeah, I mean, I sarcastically said the other day they
were the most disruptive team without fouling. I mean, they
have a few guys that foul on every possession and
all the good defenses. Do you know SGA gets like
a I don't even know a touch fowl. I guess
on the drive there was a stretch where four straight
possessions are guys got absolutely clobbered trying to make an
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entry pass to Jackson and Jalen Williams is grabbing his
jersey with both arms. That's a turn, Like we just
they're they're hard enough to play, they're hard enough to play.
You've got to be able to just call it if
they fail.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And they do fail, you know, I can't stand JJ Reddick.
I'll just be clear with that. But I'm gonna say this,
this is why nobody likes the Oklahoma City Thunder when
people last how come people don't embrace this team?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
It was through draft picks.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It was due that the idea that that it was
homegrown and they built this and they and they're young,
exciting guys and they win and all they do is win,
and and why don't people embrace this franchise? Last night
was exhibit a on why people don't embrace the OKC
Thunder their garbage.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
It's a terrible watch.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
During the regular season, right, It's unbelievable how much they
get away with it. Yes, they play great defense because
they do foul SGA all he does is get calls.
He's doing the same thing to everybody else, and no
call it when he's doing it, and when people do
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it to him, they call it. It is unwatchable. Normally,
I don't want to hear the coach JJ Reddick belly
yaching about officials, but we've seen this act long enough,
and it's awful to watch.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
It's a bad brand of basketball. It is.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's must turn off TV. That's what it is. Must
turn off TV because who wants to watch this garbage?
I heard somebody say.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Adam killing your med coan minionaires. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I've been covering this damn league since nineteen eighty seven
and it is absolute garb to watch what people watched
last night.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
The idea that foot locker would.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Chime in and they're not even trying to hawk any
sneakers tells you all you need to know. It was
that bad, that blatant that people don't even want to
What is this? Can you let them play basketball and
earn it? If they're that great awful Kelvin, I'm telling
you absolutely, why would you watch that?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (04:26):
What made what made it crazy, Rob is when the
Pistons won yesterday to you guys's point, all the sites,
hey good comeback or came out a big fourth quarter,
when the Knicks one or Knicks you know they eke
out a win and get six, or when its first win,
way to come back, bounce back from a game, when
the thunderwin. This wasn't just comments in the hater section
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or something. This was coming from sight saying look at
all these non calls, or look at SGA here, or
look at chet flapping. And that's what made it interesting
because you expect comments to hey, right Covin Bieber and hey,
oh this person that Lebron of this, Kadie's of that.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
That's what the comments section is for.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
I think what shocked me this time was actual legitimate
outlets leading with that, you know, leading with those those concerns,
leading with the flopping. Because normally they would just say
SG in a thunder take control of the series, or
they were saying do you not see that?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Do you not see this?
Speaker 7 (05:20):
And when the first thing I would day, I'm scrolling.
That's everybody from basketball guys blogs I follow. That was
the main thing everyone talked about. And when you start
to dive into it, Rob, what made me upset was that, Okay,
if it's one thing to get it an offensive file
Ali James Harden style, he did for years and that's
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not what SGA does.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
That's one thing you can't do it.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
On the other end, you can't be supposedly tough and
good on defense and rugged on defense and an't be
acting real week on the offensive, falling and flopping everywhere. Right,
that doesn't make sense. The Pistons, they're rugged. They get
in there, they you know, they muck you up a
little bit. Dispersed through the same thing. Got a bunch
of guys who defense. They don't flop and flail everywhere.
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And I think that's why people get upset with the
Thunder because they are good defensively. They do are they
are handsy, and they are a little rough, and you're
okay with that because you would think those guys can
accept that and take that.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
On the other end, that's not the case.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
And when you look at Chet not even getting hit
in the face and flying everywhere, Sga dag near broke
Aser's arms and gave him a shot to the ribs,
and what's flabbergasted when the ref's call to follow him.
I'm like, dude, we all saw you grab his arm
and elbow him. It's absolutely unnecessary. And I'll say it
this way, Rob, what makes this team difficult? And I've
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been You've I've been biting my tongue. I've been wanting
to watch more. I've been thinking maybe we're having where
he exaggerating a little bit last night, As I told Ragi,
was kind of the final show for me because I'm thinking,
all right, well, you know what, maybe it's not that bad.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Maybe we're overreacting.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Maybe it's just a day and age. What makes it
upsetting is because they don't have to do this.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You know.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
It made some people upset with Barry Bonds and and
Alex Rodriguez and Roger Clemens is because those three were
amazing pre.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Allegedly steroids for a couple of them, they were great.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
And that's what made people upset, because, man, you're a
rod You already with.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
The most time.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
They gave you two hundred fifty million dollars because you
were that great. Now you're doing steroids, and it's like,
you don't have to you're already great. And I think
that's what the Oklahoma City thundered. Y'all don't have to
flop and flail. You're the deepest team by far, you
have the best scorer in the league, you've played great defense,
you got a good roster. You don't have to do that.
You're the reigning champs. And I think that's why people
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are set with it. You don't have to you don't
have to take the juice if you will, because.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You're already great.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
You're already Barry Bond's amazing, Roger Clemens a Rod and
these guys, why are we tainting what you do? And
that's what the thunder are doing. They're tainting the greatness
of the team because now they're overclouded by that. That's
all we're looking at, that's all we're focusing on, and
it's unnecessary and none needed because they're so deep, they're
so well coached. They got the best score in the
league and they can win without it. And I think
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that's what's frustrating round. They're not a desperate team, you
know what I mean? Where this, hey, what we're gonna do?
This is all we can do. They're not that.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
So it makes people go, well, why are y'all doing that?
You don't even need to do this.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
It's like Mike Tyson and his prime was putting salt
on his gloves, so you know, the blind his opponent.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's like you're.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Tyson nineteen eighty eight knocking everybody out in ten seconds.
The last thing you need to do is be finding
other ways achieve.
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Speaker 3 (09:06):
Comming away, we're keeping an eye on the NBA playoffs.
You know, we got Game three, nix and.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Forty four forty less? Uh, nix up by four.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
One on a run, bro, what.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Is it now?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Nix up.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
It's tough, It's tough.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
But the other games tonight the nightcap Victor Wimany, i'ma
on the Spurs taking on Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves.
And ahead of that game, Yard Barker, which we get
some content from. They got some good stories on there.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
What what Wait a minute that those are fans right
right and stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Like they're they're like sports bloggers and opinion like they
write little blurbs about stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
You didn't help yourself right here.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
They didn't go to journalism school. Hey, let him get
these takes off, rob. So there's a columnist or a
blogger or whatever you want to call him, he writes
for Yard. Barker wrote a piece ahead of Game three
on the heels of Anthony Edwards after game two, making
his franchise record forty eighth career playoff game appearance from Minnesota,
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the most in Timberwolve's history. Floated out, the idea, is
Anthony Edwards already the greatest player in Timberwolve's history.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Go ahead, Kelvin, I don't have yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
No. The answer is an emphatic no.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
And we got a pause and calmed down and let
people play their duration of their time with a team,
their tenure. Relax. Pumped the breaks, matter of fact, hit
the anti lot break. You can hit the drift break
if you want to do a Tokyo drift. Hit the
breaks for a minute, all right, people, Anthony, which is
gonna be is a good to great player, gonna have
an amazing career. Let's settle down that answer is Kevin Garnet.
(10:44):
The answer is Kevin Garnet for several reasons, because I
think you got to forget the cultural impact.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
He was the.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
First guy to come out of high school in quite
some time. Right, you had Moses Malone. However, many years
before that, he had a nickname already. He was the
kid the ticket. And I think what he brought to
an organization that I can't even think of what the
Timberwolves did before him, Like, I literally don't remember a
single thing before him. Maybe I think they had Cherokee
Parks or something, if that's the best I can think of.
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And Kevin Garnett gave them something to hope for. He
gave them identity, he gave them passion. He gave him blood,
sweat and tears. And I understand he didn't have all
the success, he didn't win rings there, but they also
didn't do a lot to build around him. They got
step Marbray out of there too early. And I think,
but let's just settle down what he meant to. That's
why the other night, because they had bad fuel, blad
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blood between him and the organization. He finally came back
a month or so ago for the first time. They
go crazy. They had welcomed him back. You got the
new ownership group, Alex Rodriguez and the crew, and they
want to bring back guys who mean so much of
the organization. And I don't think anyone means more to
the Timberwolves than Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Can he eventually get that? Sure? Can we give him
some time too? Please? Yes? And also I think they.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Got a great guy, Anthony Edwards, in that there's some
echoing of the same temperament, right Kevin Garnett. We knew, vocal, cared, passionate.
You never questioned what was he gonna play? Never question
his heart, Anthony Edwards. For all the young guys who
are starting to do low management, and I don't want
to play. He plays, He wants to play. He shows up,
he plays both sides of the ball. He's very vocal,
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He's got that great charismatic personality.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
He's on his way. But I think it's too fast
to already say that.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Pump the breaks, relaxed, chill, let some marinate like Big
Mama did when she was cooking up something she let
it marinate before she just threw it out there. You
gotta let all the season and get up in there,
and so I just think it's a little premature for that.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
But I love the temperament. I love what he keeps,
what he like.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
His desire to play, his desire to win, talking trash,
he cares. He is a historian of the game. He
very well could be, but absolutely, as of current today,
if he were to retire, today is Kevin Garnett. But
I think he's on the track to be. And they
should be happy that they got a guy who wants
to win, who cares about when, he cares about the city,
cares about his teammates.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But hold up, it's Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I just it's so premature.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
What do we do with celebrating a guy who didn't
make it to the finals, was on the doorstep twice?
That's what you're celebrating. Is that how pathetic the franchise
is that you're celebrating not getting there. I just don't
even understand it. It's just not what are we doing, like, really, like,
can you win something? Should we put a statue out
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for him? Already? Since they got to the Western conference
finals two years in a row and didn't make it
to the finals. Is he worth a statue? It's just premature.
Stop rushing everything. Can he win something for you? Can
you make it feel good a little bit to at
least decide, Hey, this was something that we haven't had before. Yes,
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win a title. I would look at you and go, wow,
that's amazing. Aunt man won a title for the Timberwolves.
Can you believe they want a championship? But instead no,
we want to celebrate everything, every little one. Oh yeah,
he's played in a lot of playoff game that's nice. Good.
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How about winning? Can we win something? Can you win
a stuffed animal at the circus? Can you win something
to raffle at the Big Sale? Can you win something?
My goodness, gracious?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So well, the pushback be to you. Rob G's got it, Yeah, rob.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
G, Hey, someone's got to push back on y'all old folk.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
He's out here.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Look, Rob, you hit the nail on the head inadvertently
there in your ramp. Have you seen the history of
the Minnesota Timberwolves. It is not illustrious. The Lakers, they
are not the Celtics, they are not They're not even
the Golden State Warriors. Right, They've only made it to
the Western Conference Finals before it man once in their
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franchise's history. It is not a ridiculously high bar to clear.
And if we're gonna make the argument in sports, which
is what we do over and over and over, that
winning is the most important thing, it's all that matters
when we talk about football. The reason why outside of
Rob Parker, Tom Brady is universally regarded as the greatest
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quarterback whoever lived, I don't know because he has seven
super Bowl No, no, no, Rob.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I gotta stop you because here here's the problem with
your pushback. It's not based on just your team history.
It should be based on like winning like like like
there's a degree. No, I get it, seriously, it's the
reason that I had a problem with was it the
Memphis who had the six man with as you're retiring
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like like that, that's not the standard. I get it
that you haven't done it yet, but the standard still
should be about trying to win.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I agree with you a chap, but but the thing
is is that if if nobody has won a championship,
then there's only so many things that can go off of.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
And like I was saying the wait.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So, like I was saying with Tom Brady, he's regarded
as the greatest because he's wanted the Super Bowls, even
though almost every single current or former NFL player that
we've spoken to on this show has said the best
quarterback I've seen is Aaron Rodgers, Dan Marino, Paynon Manning.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
It's never Jan Alway.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
There's never anyone who has said the best I've ever
seen Pat Rummes. No one has ever said it's Tom Brady.
So when you're talking about the greatest player in Minnesota
Timberwolve's history, just by the fact that he's done something
twice in two years that you've only done once in
fifty years, how can you not say that he's already
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the greatest and most accomplished player.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Because they didn't win their history. Because they didn't win,
it's not enough just to go. I just think that
that is such a low bar and to this point,
so we with that said right up until and showed
up then that we should have had the for Kevin Garnett.
He should have been celebrated in a statue oft front.
(17:12):
There's no statue out front for him because they didn't
win anything. It's my point, I just can't get with that.
I don't understand. I understand, like you don't have a
history yet you hope to build one, right, but to
just say, well, we've been in existence for thirty years
and we haven't done dog crap, So let's pick out
somebody who was halfway decent and put up a statue
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or retire in a number.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
That's not how it should be done. It just isn't.
I'm gonna wait.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yeah, And I was just gonna say too, rob g.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
This is where I think sometimes best and greatest get
a little mixed up. In my opinion, Edwards may end
up being the better, maybe the better career. Maybe he
gets to the finals, maybe he wins with maybe he
just gets there once or twice, he doesn't win it.
The point is he's already will have achieved more than
Kevin Garnett to technically, but that doesn't mean you're the
greatest of something in what you mean to that city,
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that town. And I think Kevin Garnett as of now,
he means more to Minnesota, right, he meant more the
blood sweat and tears them seeing, Man, we ain't given
this guy much of nothing, And look how hard he's playing,
he shows up every night. Not a single soul on
this God's green Earth has ever questioned, man, I wonder
if Kevin maccarnett came to play tonight.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Never in your life.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Have you ever wondered about that about him. Never in
your life did you worry that it mattered to him.
Never did you worry that he was going to show
up and get the fans everything he could. And I
think that also makes it where people are more inclined
to remember that, to be nostalgic about that, because the
feeling that person gave them what it meant.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Again, he let it all out on the floor.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
And so again it's not even fair too and Edwards
to have this conversation because he's twenty what four or five,
He's not even in his prime yet, which is why
I said he eventually could surpass him.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
But as of today, it's not even fair and he's not.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
And we got to pump the brakes and like I
said with Big Mama, do let that thing marinate.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
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Speaker 1 (19:18):
We do want to talk about the WNBA, which I
think the season started.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Today, started tonight in honor of Mother's Day week, we're
celebrating women's basketball.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I've never missed the WNB, right.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I'm glad we got all that out the way now
because now here you go, ro.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You already know.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
So he set us up there like that.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Well this is so I'm trying to soften the blow.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, So that one.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Ahead of opening night, the WNBA themselves, not ESPN at
the Athletic, not CBS, the WNBA themselves polled their gms
and ask forty two different questions, all related to the
upcoming season, and one of the questions that they asked
was which player would you pick to start a franchise with?
Now context, When they asked this question last year, Kaitlyn
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Clark ran away with it fifty percent of the vote.
This year, they asked the question again. Paige Beckers was
the runaway winner thirty three percent of the Votekaitlin Clark
and raining MVP Asia Wilson finished tied for second. That's
notable because when the Kaitlyn Clark and the DNA fever
open the season this weekend they will open it up
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with Paige Beckers head.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Dad. I just don't get to the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I really don't, because at every turn they seem to
not want Caitlyn Clark to be what she's turned into.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
The contract that they have, the.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Charter flights, you know, and all these other things that
they weren't getting for the thirty years this league was
hobbling around and this woman comes in along and people
are watching the sport like it's undeniable. So I'm just
not sure. And I get it there can I And
I want to say this with all sincerity because I'm
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not trying to be flipping. Jackie Robinson wasn't the greatest
black player at the time when Nate when he showed up,
do you know what I mean in nineteen forty, he wasn't.
There were Josh Gibson, there were other black players who
were better, but he was the right guy at the
right time.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Do you know what I mean? To fit? And I
get it. There are other players, women players who.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Probably who were better than Caitlyn Clark, but they don't
have all the other stuff that goes with it. What
made her not being she was doing stuff nobody else
was doing Kelvin. It's more than just oh this she's
better than her. No, it was Kitlyn Clark with that
got everybody's interest, got guys interested in watching her because
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they never saw a woman shoot like that. There's other
stuff that goes with it and her and she moved
the needle. Why they have an issue with her, I
don't understand it.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
You know what, We've had this conversation since I've been
a show a few times, just because different things will happen,
not making the Olympic team, the way they kind of
treated her with all star stuff and I and just
with the files and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I do believe there's an element of hold on, young lady.
You know, we've been here before you, We'll be here
after you.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
I think there was a WNBA kind of a christening
or a hazing or a welcome to the league, for sure,
without a doubt. And I disagree with some of it.
I disagree with the Olympics. It was a chance to
put the big star on a platform across the world.
This one I don't have a problem with. Paige Beckers
is incredible. Page Beckers is a bucket. Page Beckers is
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probably more complete of a player than Caitlyn Clark. Also,
Caitlyn Clark's coming off a big injury didn't quite look
the same when she came back, and so I think
there's an element of people saying, let me see how
she bounces back, let me see what.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
She ends up looking like.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
So this one, to me, isn't quite the gripes and
the being petty that I think had happened historically. This one,
I think on just a basketball since what's happening and
the real, to be honest with you, the offense that
I would take is anyone who actually chose anyone other
than Asia Wilson. Asia Wilson is in a league figuratively
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literally of her own at this point, four time MVP,
three time NBA champ, including the reigning NBA champ, I mean,
multiple time Defensive Player of the Year, already in the
argument for the greatest WNBA player of all time, and
she's not even I don't even know if she's thirty yet,
Like so it's crazy what she's been able to do
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already in her career.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
So to me, I'm actually blown away.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
And if you're asking me who I'm starting a career
right now, that it's not Angel Wilson, or that she
only got twenty percent of the vote. I get that
they've been petty before, they've been short sighted. They didn't
take the long term of a long term approach with
some of the Caitlin Clark stuff. And I'll be the
first one to raise my hand saying y'all tripping get
her on that Olympic team. Stop filing her, beating her up,
because you know, she's been great for the league. She's
(23:57):
been great to monetize the league. She's been great to
get the sporting commercials in places that we haven't seen it.
But to me, I looked at this as a slap
in the face to Asia Wilson, and Alex hit me
with my what more do you want from me? Because
I don't know what more she wants. She's walking to
She got the commercials for me. Her shoes sold out
in ten minutes. I mean, Asia Wilson, is that that chick?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
And I just think, wait, where's Paige?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Did she play for? What the Dallas?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
What are the the wings? Chicken Dallas Chicken Wings? Is
it Lemon Pepper?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
My point is this.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
As good as she is? Guess what they are intendeds
like Seriously, guess what they are? The third worst, the
third worst, the less than seven thousand people a game.
This is the person you're starting the league with. I'm like, like, seriously,
and last year I think Golden State had the best attendance.
They were an expansion team, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
So I'm in a basket of basketball crazy hub right now.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Okay, so so that they had but just barely beat
out Indiana.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
The fever?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Is that what it is? Yeah? Where are the aces?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
The Las Vegas Aces were fourth at twelve thousand.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Okay, all right, that's about right.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, I thought, and I just I'm assuming these are
all real, paid for tickets, not you know, fluffers.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
If you haven't Detroit shot flashbacks.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Stop it, Yeah, because I know the details. I know
where the bodies were buried. I'm just being honest there.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
I just think I think there's some hate around her.
But I personally I didn't view with this one. There's
been stuff where I come on this show with you
and say, hey, y'all got to stop it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
There are people who have something that it's just it's
not just being the best player. There's a lot that
goes with it. That's that's my point.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Oh, I completely agree. We talked about the time.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
In fact, it factor ain't always you the best at it.
For me, Asia also has that it factor, so that's why,
and she's just insanely good. So for me, I would
be more like if I'm Asian, like, what the what
excuse me? How is there anybody would choose over me?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Would be it's.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Always Caitlin Clark because I don't want the arena to
be drafty. I want fild the building to be filled
as uh so if I'm the general manager, no, okay,
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I don't want to make it seem like it's so
because I'm the resident Laker fan on this show. It
is a great But when you have Legion of Hoops,
when you have ESPN, when you have bet MGM, when
you have Bleach your freaking foot locker weighing in on
the officiating in that game, you know it's gone bad.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
In case you lived under a rock, last night, Game two,
Oklahoma City wins going away as they.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Were expecting to it. The Lakers didn't cover the fifteen
and the hour. I couldn't do that, and couldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
No.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oklahoma City closed for most of the game, and they
pulled away in the third and fourth quarter win going away.
But all anybody wanted to talk about was the Oklahoma
City Thunder and what they do to the officiating on
two hands one number one. They will grab, clutch, hold, elbow,
whatever it takes. On the defensive end, it's part of
(01:16):
what makes them such an elite defensive team.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Kudos to them.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
But on the flip side, on the offensive end, they
will flop and flail and whine and cry and do
all the things that people hate about today's NBA.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
It was so bad.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
You had Austin Reeves calling the official a word I
can't say on the air and have a powow with
him after the game and in the postgame, JJ Reddick
let his frustrations be known.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Yeah, I mean, I sarcastically said the other day they
were the most disruptive team without fouling. I mean, they
have a few guys that foul on every possession and
all the good defenses. Do you know SGA gets like
a I don't even know a touch fowl. I guess
on the drive there was a stretch where four straight
possessions are guys got absolutely clobbered trying to make an
(02:02):
entry pass to Jackson and Jalen Williams is grabbing his
jersey with both arms. That's a turn, Like we just
they're they're hard enough to play, they're hard enough to play.
You've got to be able to just call it if
they fail.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And they do fail, you know, I can't stand JJ Reddick.
I'll just be clear with that. But I'm gonna say this,
this is why nobody likes the Oklahoma City Thunder when
people last how come people don't embrace this team?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
It was through draft picks.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It was due that the idea that that it was
homegrown and they built this and they and they're young,
exciting guys and they win and all they do is win,
and and why don't people embrace this franchise? Last night
was exhibit a on why people don't embrace the OKC
Thunder their garbage.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
It's a terrible watch.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
During the regular season, right, It's unbelievable how much they
get away with it. Yes, they play great defense because
they do foul SGA all he does is get calls.
He's doing the same thing to everybody else, and no
call it when he's doing it, and when people do
(03:21):
it to him, they call it. It is unwatchable. Normally,
I don't want to hear the coach JJ Reddick belly
yaching about officials, but we've seen this act long enough,
and it's awful to watch.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
It's a bad brand of basketball. It is.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's must turn off TV. That's what it is. Must
turn off TV because who wants to watch this garbage?
I heard somebody say.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Adam killing your med coan minionaires. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I've been covering this damn league since nineteen eighty seven
and it is absolute garb to watch what people watched
last night.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
The idea that foot locker would.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Chime in and they're not even trying to hawk any
sneakers tells you all you need to know. It was
that bad, that blatant that people don't even want to
What is this? Can you let them play basketball and
earn it? If they're that great awful Kelvin, I'm telling
you absolutely, why would you watch that?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (04:26):
What made what made it crazy, Rob is when the
Pistons won yesterday to you guys's point, all the sites,
hey good comeback or came out a big fourth quarter,
when the Knicks one or Knicks you know they eke
out a win and get six, or when its first win,
way to come back, bounce back from a game, when
the thunderwin. This wasn't just comments in the hater section
(04:46):
or something. This was coming from sight saying look at
all these non calls, or look at SGA here, or
look at chet flapping. And that's what made it interesting
because you expect comments to hey, right Covin Bieber and hey,
oh this person that Lebron of this, Kadie's of that.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
That's what the comments section is for.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
I think what shocked me this time was actual legitimate
outlets leading with that, you know, leading with those those concerns,
leading with the flopping. Because normally they would just say
SG in a thunder take control of the series, or
they were saying do you not see that?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Do you not see this?
Speaker 7 (05:20):
And when the first thing I would day, I'm scrolling.
That's everybody from basketball guys blogs I follow. That was
the main thing everyone talked about. And when you start
to dive into it, Rob, what made me upset was that, Okay,
if it's one thing to get it an offensive file
Ali James Harden style, he did for years and that's
(05:40):
not what SGA does.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
That's one thing you can't do it.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
On the other end, you can't be supposedly tough and
good on defense and rugged on defense and an't be
acting real week on the offensive, falling and flopping everywhere. Right,
that doesn't make sense. The Pistons, they're rugged. They get
in there, they you know, they muck you up a
little bit. Dispersed through the same thing. Got a bunch
of guys who defense. They don't flop and flail everywhere.
(06:05):
And I think that's why people get upset with the
Thunder because they are good defensively. They do are they
are handsy, and they are a little rough, and you're
okay with that because you would think those guys can
accept that and take that.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
On the other end, that's not the case.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
And when you look at Chet not even getting hit
in the face and flying everywhere, Sga dag near broke
Aser's arms and gave him a shot to the ribs,
and what's flabbergasted when the ref's call to follow him.
I'm like, dude, we all saw you grab his arm
and elbow him. It's absolutely unnecessary. And I'll say it
this way, Rob, what makes this team difficult? And I've
(06:38):
been You've I've been biting my tongue. I've been wanting
to watch more. I've been thinking maybe we're having where
he exaggerating a little bit last night, As I told Ragi,
was kind of the final show for me because I'm thinking,
all right, well, you know what, maybe it's not that bad.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Maybe we're overreacting.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Maybe it's just a day and age. What makes it
upsetting is because they don't have to do this.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You know.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
It made some people upset with Barry Bonds and and
Alex Rodriguez and Roger Clemens is because those three were
amazing pre.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Allegedly steroids for a couple of them, they were great.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
And that's what made people upset, because, man, you're a
rod You already with.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
The most time.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
They gave you two hundred fifty million dollars because you
were that great. Now you're doing steroids, and it's like,
you don't have to you're already great. And I think
that's what the Oklahoma City thundered. Y'all don't have to
flop and flail. You're the deepest team by far, you
have the best scorer in the league, you've played great defense,
you got a good roster. You don't have to do that.
You're the reigning champs. And I think that's why people
(07:35):
are set with it. You don't have to you don't
have to take the juice if you will, because.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You're already great.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
You're already Barry Bond's amazing, Roger Clemens a Rod and
these guys, why are we tainting what you do? And
that's what the thunder are doing. They're tainting the greatness
of the team because now they're overclouded by that. That's
all we're looking at, that's all we're focusing on, and
it's unnecessary and none needed because they're so deep, they're
so well coached. They got the best score in the
league and they can win without it. And I think
(08:03):
that's what's frustrating round. They're not a desperate team, you
know what I mean? Where this, hey, what we're gonna do?
This is all we can do. They're not that.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
So it makes people go, well, why are y'all doing that?
You don't even need to do this.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
It's like Mike Tyson and his prime was putting salt
on his gloves, so you know, the blind his opponent.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's like you're.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Tyson nineteen eighty eight knocking everybody out in ten seconds.
The last thing you need to do is be finding
other ways achieve.
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Speaker 3 (09:06):
Comming away, we're keeping an eye on the NBA playoffs.
You know, we got Game three, nix and.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Forty four forty less? Uh, nix up by four.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
One on a run, bro, what.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Is it now?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Nix up.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
It's tough, It's tough.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
But the other games tonight the nightcap Victor Wimany, i'ma
on the Spurs taking on Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves.
And ahead of that game, Yard Barker, which we get
some content from. They got some good stories on there.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
What what Wait a minute that those are fans right
right and stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Like they're they're like sports bloggers and opinion like they
write little blurbs about stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
You didn't help yourself right here.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
They didn't go to journalism school. Hey, let him get
these takes off, rob. So there's a columnist or a
blogger or whatever you want to call him, he writes
for Yard. Barker wrote a piece ahead of Game three
on the heels of Anthony Edwards after game two, making
his franchise record forty eighth career playoff game appearance from Minnesota,
(10:06):
the most in Timberwolve's history. Floated out, the idea, is
Anthony Edwards already the greatest player in Timberwolve's history.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Go ahead, Kelvin, I don't have yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
No. The answer is an emphatic no.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
And we got a pause and calmed down and let
people play their duration of their time with a team,
their tenure. Relax. Pumped the breaks, matter of fact, hit
the anti lot break. You can hit the drift break
if you want to do a Tokyo drift. Hit the
breaks for a minute, all right, people, Anthony, which is
gonna be is a good to great player, gonna have
an amazing career. Let's settle down that answer is Kevin Garnet.
(10:44):
The answer is Kevin Garnet for several reasons, because I
think you got to forget the cultural impact.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
He was the.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
First guy to come out of high school in quite
some time. Right, you had Moses Malone. However, many years
before that, he had a nickname already. He was the
kid the ticket. And I think what he brought to
an organization that I can't even think of what the
Timberwolves did before him, Like, I literally don't remember a
single thing before him. Maybe I think they had Cherokee
Parks or something, if that's the best I can think of.
(11:12):
And Kevin Garnett gave them something to hope for. He
gave them identity, he gave them passion. He gave him blood,
sweat and tears. And I understand he didn't have all
the success, he didn't win rings there, but they also
didn't do a lot to build around him. They got
step Marbray out of there too early. And I think,
but let's just settle down what he meant to. That's
why the other night, because they had bad fuel, blad
(11:35):
blood between him and the organization. He finally came back
a month or so ago for the first time. They
go crazy. They had welcomed him back. You got the
new ownership group, Alex Rodriguez and the crew, and they
want to bring back guys who mean so much of
the organization. And I don't think anyone means more to
the Timberwolves than Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Can he eventually get that? Sure? Can we give him
some time too? Please? Yes? And also I think they.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Got a great guy, Anthony Edwards, in that there's some
echoing of the same temperament, right Kevin Garnett. We knew, vocal, cared, passionate.
You never questioned what was he gonna play? Never question
his heart, Anthony Edwards. For all the young guys who
are starting to do low management, and I don't want
to play. He plays, He wants to play. He shows up,
he plays both sides of the ball. He's very vocal,
(12:21):
He's got that great charismatic personality.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
He's on his way. But I think it's too fast
to already say that.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Pump the breaks, relaxed, chill, let some marinate like Big
Mama did when she was cooking up something she let
it marinate before she just threw it out there. You
gotta let all the season and get up in there,
and so I just think it's a little premature for that.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
But I love the temperament. I love what he keeps,
what he like.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
His desire to play, his desire to win, talking trash,
he cares. He is a historian of the game. He
very well could be, but absolutely, as of current today,
if he were to retire, today is Kevin Garnett. But
I think he's on the track to be. And they
should be happy that they got a guy who wants
to win, who cares about when, he cares about the city,
cares about his teammates.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But hold up, it's Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I just it's so premature.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
What do we do with celebrating a guy who didn't
make it to the finals, was on the doorstep twice?
That's what you're celebrating. Is that how pathetic the franchise
is that you're celebrating not getting there. I just don't
even understand it. It's just not what are we doing, like, really, like,
can you win something? Should we put a statue out
(13:31):
for him? Already? Since they got to the Western conference
finals two years in a row and didn't make it
to the finals. Is he worth a statue? It's just premature.
Stop rushing everything. Can he win something for you? Can
you make it feel good a little bit to at
least decide, Hey, this was something that we haven't had before. Yes,
(13:53):
win a title. I would look at you and go, wow,
that's amazing. Aunt man won a title for the Timberwolves.
Can you believe they want a championship? But instead no,
we want to celebrate everything, every little one. Oh yeah,
he's played in a lot of playoff game that's nice. Good.
(14:14):
How about winning? Can we win something? Can you win
a stuffed animal at the circus? Can you win something
to raffle at the Big Sale? Can you win something?
My goodness, gracious?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So well, the pushback be to you. Rob G's got it, Yeah, rob.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
G, Hey, someone's got to push back on y'all old folk.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
He's out here.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Look, Rob, you hit the nail on the head inadvertently
there in your ramp. Have you seen the history of
the Minnesota Timberwolves. It is not illustrious. The Lakers, they
are not the Celtics, they are not They're not even
the Golden State Warriors. Right, They've only made it to
the Western Conference Finals before it man once in their
(15:00):
franchise's history. It is not a ridiculously high bar to clear.
And if we're gonna make the argument in sports, which
is what we do over and over and over, that
winning is the most important thing, it's all that matters
when we talk about football. The reason why outside of
Rob Parker, Tom Brady is universally regarded as the greatest
(15:23):
quarterback whoever lived, I don't know because he has seven
super Bowl No, no, no, Rob.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I gotta stop you because here here's the problem with
your pushback. It's not based on just your team history.
It should be based on like winning like like like
there's a degree. No, I get it, seriously, it's the
reason that I had a problem with was it the
Memphis who had the six man with as you're retiring
(15:49):
like like that, that's not the standard. I get it
that you haven't done it yet, but the standard still
should be about trying to win.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I agree with you a chap, but but the thing
is is that if if nobody has won a championship,
then there's only so many things that can go off of.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
And like I was saying the wait.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So, like I was saying with Tom Brady, he's regarded
as the greatest because he's wanted the Super Bowls, even
though almost every single current or former NFL player that
we've spoken to on this show has said the best
quarterback I've seen is Aaron Rodgers, Dan Marino, Paynon Manning.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
It's never Jan Alway.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
There's never anyone who has said the best I've ever
seen Pat Rummes. No one has ever said it's Tom Brady.
So when you're talking about the greatest player in Minnesota
Timberwolve's history, just by the fact that he's done something
twice in two years that you've only done once in
fifty years, how can you not say that he's already
(16:48):
the greatest and most accomplished player.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Because they didn't win their history. Because they didn't win,
it's not enough just to go. I just think that
that is such a low bar and to this point,
so we with that said right up until and showed
up then that we should have had the for Kevin Garnett.
He should have been celebrated in a statue oft front.
(17:12):
There's no statue out front for him because they didn't
win anything. It's my point, I just can't get with that.
I don't understand. I understand, like you don't have a
history yet you hope to build one, right, but to
just say, well, we've been in existence for thirty years
and we haven't done dog crap, So let's pick out
somebody who was halfway decent and put up a statue
(17:35):
or retire in a number.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
That's not how it should be done. It just isn't.
I'm gonna wait.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yeah, And I was just gonna say too, rob g.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
This is where I think sometimes best and greatest get
a little mixed up. In my opinion, Edwards may end
up being the better, maybe the better career. Maybe he
gets to the finals, maybe he wins with maybe he
just gets there once or twice, he doesn't win it.
The point is he's already will have achieved more than
Kevin Garnett to technically, but that doesn't mean you're the
greatest of something in what you mean to that city,
(18:05):
that town. And I think Kevin Garnett as of now,
he means more to Minnesota, right, he meant more the
blood sweat and tears them seeing, Man, we ain't given
this guy much of nothing, And look how hard he's playing,
he shows up every night. Not a single soul on
this God's green Earth has ever questioned, man, I wonder
if Kevin maccarnett came to play tonight.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Never in your life.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Have you ever wondered about that about him. Never in
your life did you worry that it mattered to him.
Never did you worry that he was going to show
up and get the fans everything he could. And I
think that also makes it where people are more inclined
to remember that, to be nostalgic about that, because the
feeling that person gave them what it meant.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Again, he let it all out on the floor.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
And so again it's not even fair too and Edwards
to have this conversation because he's twenty what four or five,
He's not even in his prime yet, which is why
I said he eventually could surpass him.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
But as of today, it's not even fair and he's not.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
And we got to pump the brakes and like I
said with Big Mama, do let that thing marinate.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
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Speaker 1 (19:18):
We do want to talk about the WNBA, which I
think the season started.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Today, started tonight in honor of Mother's Day week, we're
celebrating women's basketball.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I've never missed the WNB, right.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I'm glad we got all that out the way now
because now here you go, ro.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You already know.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
So he set us up there like that.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Well this is so I'm trying to soften the blow.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, So that one.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Ahead of opening night, the WNBA themselves, not ESPN at
the Athletic, not CBS, the WNBA themselves polled their gms
and ask forty two different questions, all related to the
upcoming season, and one of the questions that they asked
was which player would you pick to start a franchise with?
Now context, When they asked this question last year, Kaitlyn
(20:02):
Clark ran away with it fifty percent of the vote.
This year, they asked the question again. Paige Beckers was
the runaway winner thirty three percent of the Votekaitlin Clark
and raining MVP Asia Wilson finished tied for second. That's
notable because when the Kaitlyn Clark and the DNA fever
open the season this weekend they will open it up
(20:24):
with Paige Beckers head.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Dad. I just don't get to the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I really don't, because at every turn they seem to
not want Caitlyn Clark to be what she's turned into.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
The contract that they have, the.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Charter flights, you know, and all these other things that
they weren't getting for the thirty years this league was
hobbling around and this woman comes in along and people
are watching the sport like it's undeniable. So I'm just
not sure. And I get it there can I And
I want to say this with all sincerity because I'm
(21:05):
not trying to be flipping. Jackie Robinson wasn't the greatest
black player at the time when Nate when he showed up,
do you know what I mean in nineteen forty, he wasn't.
There were Josh Gibson, there were other black players who
were better, but he was the right guy at the
right time.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Do you know what I mean? To fit? And I
get it. There are other players, women players who.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Probably who were better than Caitlyn Clark, but they don't
have all the other stuff that goes with it. What
made her not being she was doing stuff nobody else
was doing Kelvin. It's more than just oh this she's
better than her. No, it was Kitlyn Clark with that
got everybody's interest, got guys interested in watching her because
(21:49):
they never saw a woman shoot like that. There's other
stuff that goes with it and her and she moved
the needle. Why they have an issue with her, I
don't understand it.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
You know what, We've had this conversation since I've been
a show a few times, just because different things will happen,
not making the Olympic team, the way they kind of
treated her with all star stuff and I and just
with the files and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I do believe there's an element of hold on, young lady.
You know, we've been here before you, We'll be here
after you.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
I think there was a WNBA kind of a christening
or a hazing or a welcome to the league, for sure,
without a doubt. And I disagree with some of it.
I disagree with the Olympics. It was a chance to
put the big star on a platform across the world.
This one I don't have a problem with. Paige Beckers
is incredible. Page Beckers is a bucket. Page Beckers is
(22:38):
probably more complete of a player than Caitlyn Clark. Also,
Caitlyn Clark's coming off a big injury didn't quite look
the same when she came back, and so I think
there's an element of people saying, let me see how
she bounces back, let me see what.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
She ends up looking like.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
So this one, to me, isn't quite the gripes and
the being petty that I think had happened historically. This one,
I think on just a basketball since what's happening and
the real, to be honest with you, the offense that
I would take is anyone who actually chose anyone other
than Asia Wilson. Asia Wilson is in a league figuratively
(23:11):
literally of her own at this point, four time MVP,
three time NBA champ, including the reigning NBA champ, I mean,
multiple time Defensive Player of the Year, already in the
argument for the greatest WNBA player of all time, and
she's not even I don't even know if she's thirty yet,
Like so it's crazy what she's been able to do
(23:32):
already in her career.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
So to me, I'm actually blown away.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
And if you're asking me who I'm starting a career
right now, that it's not Angel Wilson, or that she
only got twenty percent of the vote. I get that
they've been petty before, they've been short sighted. They didn't
take the long term of a long term approach with
some of the Caitlin Clark stuff. And I'll be the
first one to raise my hand saying y'all tripping get
her on that Olympic team. Stop filing her, beating her up,
because you know, she's been great for the league. She's
(23:57):
been great to monetize the league. She's been great to
get the sporting commercials in places that we haven't seen it.
But to me, I looked at this as a slap
in the face to Asia Wilson, and Alex hit me
with my what more do you want from me? Because
I don't know what more she wants. She's walking to
She got the commercials for me. Her shoes sold out
in ten minutes. I mean, Asia Wilson, is that that chick?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
And I just think, wait, where's Paige?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Did she play for? What the Dallas?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
What are the the wings? Chicken Dallas Chicken Wings? Is
it Lemon Pepper?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
My point is this.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
As good as she is? Guess what they are intendeds
like Seriously, guess what they are? The third worst, the
third worst, the less than seven thousand people a game.
This is the person you're starting the league with. I'm like, like, seriously,
and last year I think Golden State had the best attendance.
They were an expansion team, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
So I'm in a basket of basketball crazy hub right now.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Okay, so so that they had but just barely beat
out Indiana.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
The fever?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Is that what it is? Yeah? Where are the aces?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
The Las Vegas Aces were fourth at twelve thousand.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Okay, all right, that's about right.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, I thought, and I just I'm assuming these are
all real, paid for tickets, not you know, fluffers.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
If you haven't Detroit shot flashbacks.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Stop it, Yeah, because I know the details. I know
where the bodies were buried. I'm just being honest there.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
I just think I think there's some hate around her.
But I personally I didn't view with this one. There's
been stuff where I come on this show with you
and say, hey, y'all got to stop it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
There are people who have something that it's just it's
not just being the best player. There's a lot that
goes with it. That's that's my point.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Oh, I completely agree. We talked about the time.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
In fact, it factor ain't always you the best at it.
For me, Asia also has that it factor, so that's why,
and she's just insanely good. So for me, I would
be more like if I'm Asian, like, what the what
excuse me? How is there anybody would choose over me?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Would be it's.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Always Caitlin Clark because I don't want the arena to
be drafty. I want fild the building to be filled
as uh so if I'm the general manager, no, okay,
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