August 11, 2026 • 45 mins
Robert Guerra and Ephraim Salaam filling in for Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington react to Kyler Murray continuing to find success as an unsuccessful quarterback within the NFL. The NBA made a mistake picking the Sixers over the Spurs. Plus, the great NFL Insider - Adam Caplan joins the guys!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Chris Brusson and Rob Parker.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yes, sir, it is the Odd Couple with me, Robert Carol,
Rob g if you're nasty, come into you live from
sunny southern California.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
So excited right now, Yes, sir, DJ Alex Tyshirt is
on the wheels this steal. Isaac Loewing kron is on
the updates. And the guy Tom I left sitting in
for Rob Parker and Calvin Washington, TV writer, film producer.
He played a little football back in the day too,
none other than Eph from Salam.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
What's up, Rob? How you doing? What's up? Man? Like
all the times I've ever you know, filled in and
all of that, I've never done it with you. And
I heard that you get a little nervous sometimes, grus
if you're If you need any help. I'm here for you. Okay.
The listeners, uh, they want your best okay, and and
and I'm sure that you're going to knock this out
(01:20):
the park, I hope.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
So I was feeling really good about myself until Alex said, Hey,
if we're going to be doing the zoom, I'm gonna
need you eat him to drop your chair down, and
Robs you bring your chair up so y'all can be
the same height. I like that.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
I mean, like where he started. You want me to
sit on the ground.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I guess I would prefer that I have to stand up.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
You're gonna taller.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
If I stood up and you're sitting down, you're probably
still three inches taller than me.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yes, that's correct, but that you know, Hey, we all
had choices. I did not your parents, Okay, I had choices. Okay,
all right, if your mom decided that she was going
to be with minute Bowl, they wouldn't be having this conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
So that's one thing the bar ball got right. She yes,
He's like, yes, I got a date of basketball play
because I'm gonna breed three boys. They're all gonna play.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
He did.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Actually, there you go, that's a good point, a man.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You gotta walk into this thing. My so, my son
who's twelve, turned twelve three weeks ago when took his physical, okay,
uh Friday or no Monday, Monday, and he is uh
five to seven, he's twelve already, yes, okay. My wife
is almost six feet she's five eleven and so. But
(02:29):
you thought that was a mistake. You thought I was
like you thought I was like, I don't know, maybe
maybe maybe not. No, No, this is you had a prerequest.
Every everything is on purpose. Everything's on purpose. So when
I say you had choices, now, look there were other
people available.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I'm sure there were.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Okay, Now, not to take anything away from the amazing
chemistry and instant attraction between my wife and I. It
just everything lined up personality wise, height, genetics, the whole
nine yards. And now we have a six three fifteen
year old and a five to seven twelve year old.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I don't like them, I tell you. With shoes on, yeah,
five to seven.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Okay, I'm literally I'm literally sitting in here with a
grown man who's the size of my twelve years whatever.
What a brand new twelve year old though he didn't
he's not even through pre prebity yet. Like he's just
turned twelve on the twenty fifth of June. So we
(03:31):
got that.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Happy birthday to how's the body watch situation in your house?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
We'll get to that later. We got so much to
get to you on today show Adam Kaplan coming up
at bottom of the hour of Fox Sports Radio, NFL Inside,
we got some NBA scheduling conversation, shot taking shots at Lebron.
We got to start out with the big news of
the day. The Minnesota Vikings have settled on their quarterback
for the season. Their QB one will be none other
(04:01):
than Kyler Murray. And I want to start with this.
Even you and I, not just in media, but in general,
we all know people who continue to fail upwards. Right, Yes,
the guy who shows up to work late all the
time still gets promoted. The guy who failed out of
all his classes, but his dad runs aheade fund, so
he's making six figures out of college.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Happens.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Kyler Murray is the NFL equivalent. Okay, there is no
good reason why Kyler Murray keeps getting these opportunities that
he does not deserve. Ok And it goes all the
way back. So when he first got drafted, by the Cardinals. Okay,
if I'm five to seven, he's five to nine.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
All right.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I've met Kyler Murray a handful of times on Super
Bowl Radio row and if his hair wasn't picked out
when the fro me and him were almost high level.
Because he is not a large individual, but yet, because
Cliff Kingsbury was the man in charge there in Arizona,
they decided, I don't care what history says about small quarterbacks.
I don't mind that he only had one season as
(05:02):
a starter. I'm gonna make him the first overall pick,
and forget the fact that we just drafted Josh Rosen
to be our QB won the year before. This is
the guy I'm gonna hitch my wagon too. Yes, Okay,
So they do that a couple years later, without having
really done anything in the league yet. At that point,
Kyler Murray decides, you know what, I am gonna black
(05:22):
out my Instagram. I'm gonna scrub all mention of the
Cardinals and my social media accounts because I believe that
I deserve a new contract. I don't think he had
done anything to get it, but he got one. They
felt so confident in him that they put a clause
in his contract as said, you have to watch a
(05:43):
certain amount of tape. You cannot be playing call of
duty while you're doing this, because not only did they
know he wasn't watching it, he had set himself to
The New York Times a couple of years before, saying, Yeah,
I'm not the kind of guy grinds taped like that
because I just see things out there. I don't really
gotta worry about preparing the way an average quarterback might prepare.
Flash forward now to last season. Right he only starts
(06:06):
five games, part of it due to injury, of course,
and historically has a lot of injury issues. But even
when he was out there, when the Cardinals were as
healthy as they had been all season, he was mediocre
at best. Right think he averaged about two hundred and
eighty total yards of offense rushing and throwing. His team
(06:27):
averaged about twenty points per game. They soft benched him.
We'll call it back. They said he was hurt. He
could have came back. He decided not to come back.
We don't know what the reason was. But did you
know that when Jakoby Brissett took over with they banged
up Arizona Cardinal offense, they averaged more yards per game
(06:48):
and more points per game. And yet I just heard
you tell Rich Davis during the commercial break as we're
switching shows that they may not win a game this
season because Jacoby we said he's not a good NFL
quarterback and Arson Beck might be their starter. So I
ask you this, now, what on earth has Kyler Murray
done to slide into Minnesota in a situation that has
(07:14):
arguably a top five offensive unit outside of the quarterback.
You have one of the better offensive minds a head coach,
and he is just given the QB one job without
having any real competition. I do not understand this. How
does this keep happening to a guy like Kyler Murray?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Well, because there's always a need for a quarterback, that's
the underlying thing. Like you would say, okay, how does
a guy continue to get multiple opportunities? Some may have
said that about Sam Donald right now. Sam Donald is
a Super Bowl champion and has turned his entire career around.
People are saying that right now with Bryce Young.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Also my height.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Also, the fact is there's not enough quality in terms
of you know, the thirty two starting quarterbacks. There's always
going to be ten or so teams that are looking
for their starter, and when you're looking for your starter,
(08:22):
you're trying to find the best talent that you can have.
Kyler Murray is the best talented quarterback on that roster.
There was a miss with JJ McCarthy. Sure, all right,
they understand that. That's why they went and got Kyler
Murray because they understood, oh wow, we really should have
kept Sam Donald. But we felt the pressure of this
(08:46):
first round draft pick, right, we use it on JJ McCarthy.
She got hurt, traded up, got hurt, and we had
a phenomenal year. We have to move off of Sam Donald,
even though we may not want to see what JJ has.
He doesn't have what they think they can use for
the next ten years. Is Kyler Murray the answer for
(09:07):
the next ten years. No, But what he can do
is he can help him compete when Kyler is engaged
and involved. And this is a very important year for him.
This is a very important year for him because he
is going to an offensive system that is conducive to
making quarterbacks who are afterthoughts be good. He is going
to an offensive minded coach. He is going to a
(09:29):
team with one of the arguably the best receivers we've
seen in the last decade. Everything is leaning towards him
having a rebirth, a resurgence of his career, similar to
what happened with Sam Darnold now in terms of him
taking it serious and studying and doing the things you
(09:50):
have to do to be a starting quarterback. If he
hasn't crossed that threshold yet, then the same old thing
is going to happen. But on that roster right now.
You know, your question is how does he keep getting
an opportunity because there's talent there. We've seen the talent.
We've seen the talent. You also have to remember Arizona
wasn't a hotbed of talent. Oh they have talent on
(10:14):
that round, They were not I'm talking about when he
got there. You can talk about the talent now. When
he got there, they weren't a hot bit. No one
was talking about how talented the Arizona roster is. But
we can.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Go ahead. I'm sorry, Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Okay, what we do know is Minnesota has talent everywhere, Yes,
starting with the coaching, Yes, this is okay, let's know
what we got. You know what you have in JJ McCarthy.
You know what that is. You don't like what you have,
but someth's in of and something's cooking right. Put it
on three p. Fifty. Sit it in there for eighteen weeks,
(10:56):
see what that thing look like, and see what it
tastes like at the end. And that's where they are
with Kyle Murray right now. The talent is there. He's
been a Pro Bowl quarterback, even though that's not saying
much in today's landscape. S newp. Huntley's been a Probole's
crazy to me. Damn, I wish just was like that
when I was playing. It wasn't. I digress. But look,
Kyler has an opportunity to resurrect his career, to really
(11:21):
have people looking like they were looking at Sam Donald
the last couple of years, and this is the perfect
place for to do that.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Well, you bring up Sam Donald. Sam Donald was not
given the same opportunities that Kyler Murray has gotten. Sam
Donald when he got dumped by Carolina. He was a
backup in San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
San Francisco. He was broadest thing that ever could have
happened to him.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Go ahead, he was a supposed to be the backup
in Minnesota. But JJ McCarthy got hurt and then he
kind of got thrushed into the job. And then once
he got here to Seattle, I know that he got
the Super Bowl and that's great. He also led the
league in turnovers, so it's not like he was really,
Oh my gosh, can you believe we all missed on
Sam Donald?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
No one missed on Sam Donald. Right, Sam Donald had
to become Sam Donald. Sure, as we know, if you
go to the Jets as a quarterback, then you can
throw away your first four years. You can just throw
them away right, ball him up, throw him OUTA can't
count it. Most guys don't survive after that. Now, Sam
had an opportunity to go to Carolina, had an opportunity
(12:21):
to go to San Francisco because Shanahan believed in him
and gave him opportunity to really learn, learn what it
really takes to become a quarterback. If you don't have that,
I can guarantee you Kyler Murray didn't have it in Arizona, right,
the system that was in place, and I'll explain it
to you and I'll tell you why. Sure, of course,
Cliff Kingsbury was there and he knew Kyler and that's
(12:45):
too familiar. You know what you can get away with, right.
I know on this show, I can just run you
over what right, like I could just right, I know,
I know it. I'm just teasing, but I know what
I'm dealing with. He knows what he was dealing with. Right.
He's in a situation now where he doesn't have the
upper hand.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
He's not the first, but it feels like it is
because this was not a real quarterback competition. As soon
as they brought him in, the assumtion was that he
was going to be the.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Quarterback, of course, because they know what they have.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, and but that's fair.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
If your wife can't cook, my wife, I'm just saying,
if your wife can't cook. Hypothetically, if your wife can't
cook and you come home and she's been cooking all day,
you already know, damn, this is not it. You already know, right,
You'll sit down, you'll eat it, You'll be like, oh, yes,
whatever that relationship is. But you know, now, if your
(13:38):
wife's mom is there and you come home and she's cooking,
you're like, oh, we what were we having? This is what?
And I'm just trying to use that to just try
to to have people understand how coaching staffs think. Right,
they know what's cooking with him in there behind, you know,
QB one. They know what JJ is cooking. It's not
(13:59):
very good. Well, eat it if we have to, but
it's not very good. Right now, Kyler has come in,
He's shown that he can make a good dish, not consistently,
but maybe the infrastructure, maybe the ingredients, well, maybe the
ingredients weren't there to consistently make a great dish. They
got an offensive line, they got a running game, they
(14:20):
got a hell of a receiving corps, and an offensive
minded coach. The ingredient. There is no other ingredients. Okay,
Sam Donald became five star michelan chef in that kitchen.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
All right, let me ask you this question then, because
if you're saying that they already knew they were gonna
get off a JJ McCarthy, yes, that was already the plan.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
The last four seasons, Kyler Murray has missed thirty out
of sixty eight games. He's ranked in the bottom ten
amongst NFL starting quarterbacks at least twenty five starts in
win percentage yards per attempt TD percentage passer rating. Yes, so,
I ask you if you already knew you were gonna
move on from JJ mc Yes, why did you settle
(15:02):
on that guy?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Because you know what the quarterback draft is like this
coming up season. That's why you know what the quarterback
draft is going to look like coming up this next offseason.
You're okay with Kyler Murray coming in there, that's fine.
Can we compete? We'll find out early on if we'll
(15:24):
be able to compete in that division, which is pretty
stacked by the way. Yes, you'll find out if you
can compete. Now, if you can't, all right, we're moving on.
We know Manning, the kid from Mississippi State, any of
the other young quarterbacks who are Heisman hopefuls, they're coming up,
(15:44):
So you understand what's happening. You didn't sign Kyler Murray
to a five year, one hundred and you know two
hundred and twenty two million dollar deal, No, you didn't.
What you don't want to do is waste more time
with JJ McCarthy. You don't want to do that. Maybe
he'll turn into something in four or five years as
a backup or whatever, but coming out of college, he
really wasn't a first round draft pick. Our first round talent. Anyway,
(16:05):
I think Harball convinced people that, you know, he was
perfect close. He didn't even pass the ball in college.
What type of pro style is that? So look all
they're doing. It's a stopgap, man, It's a band aid,
but it's a pretty it's a pretty exotic band aid.
Got some birds on there. You know that's design. It's
(16:26):
not the plane, old beige rubber band that you find
at the bottom of a swimming pool. It's it's an
exotic rubber band. And you're trying to see a mesquit
a band aid. Then you're trying to see if this
thing really works.
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Speaker 4 (16:51):
I can't believe I'm arguing with the guy who's bragging
about being built like Rob Parker six five and eighty pounds.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah, that's how he's built now as a grown man.
Just saying over here, I was that. I was that
as a sixteen year old.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
So you were a young Rob Parker anyways, Wow.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Well we could talk about how you were built in
the yes.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
How were you here the same I was seventeen six
I was sixteen in that picture.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, so two sixteen year olds against each other.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah, one of them looks like Rob Parker. One of
them looks the way I still look now. I haven't
grown since sixth grade. And it shows we all have choices. Man,
it is the odd couple with me. Robert Garrett tried
harder in high school. But Kyler Murray's is starting quarterback
in the NFL or whatever for a right offensive lineman.
(17:37):
Kyler Murray's he's there, apparently the greatest high school player ever.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
From no, no, no, no, no, no. For Rob Parker Washington,
I was a pretty good sixteen year old player as
a senior, two years younger than everybody else. So why
I skipped two grades? Why because I was being disruptive
in class with my grades didn't reflect that.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
You like nine people in your high school? Is that
what it was?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Okay, no, I get it's fine.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
No.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I went from first to third to fifth, all right,
So I skipped second and those are the easy grades.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Anyway, tell me you skipped the freshman and sophomore year.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
You don't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You skip the tradition, and I skipped, uh reading.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Well, that's how you get to high school to thirteen
and graduated sixteen.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
That's not impressive to me. Like I said, I know
how to read it, Like I said, you should have tried.
It's all there. I mean, I'm not making it up.
You didn't even go to high school. You just said
you skipped.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
All the years.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
I did not. I skipped.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
So you so you didn't try elementary in fourth grade?
So you didn't try in elementary school?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
No, I didn't have to. That's what was easy. I
could read that start trying til later. Yeah, you had
to force myself to try because everything came easy.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
So what do you tell your kids then, because I'm
sure they know.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I have a twelve year old right now who's gifted,
and so he didn't try and no, no, no, he
has to try now. He didn't try in elementary school
and he tested off the charts. And that's the problem.
That's because because now things are getting a little bit
more difficult and he doesn't even have you know, he
(19:17):
didn't develop how to study and how to prepare. He's
literally just reading it and doing it and it's easy.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Kyler Murrayden's study are prepared. He just got himself a
new gig. That's true, all right.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
And for all you.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
People, the YouTube is the automobile with some of your
comments throughout the show. I see you talking about, Oh,
we're not getting any calls another Rob Parker pocket we are.
We have trash talk coming up in about forty minutes.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
This is trash talking to your breaks.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Okay, you guys are ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
We've sent our photo evidence to social media guru Elijah
and he will be posting them. So please check those
out and tell us who you'd put your money on.
Check it out. Oh god, both of those kids are
sixteen whatever one you got in nineteen eighty one. One's
(20:03):
me and one's this guy. Who do you think could
get to the quarterback or stop somebody from getting me? Quarterback?
Me with them arm bands?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
And yes, I was so look out jack, I was
back then, jacked, yes, jacked in tank.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Look how skinny you were, Widow's peak. You have I
did to shave it off.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
See that. At least I got hair.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Your hair it's gone, man, I have hair in this picture. Yeah,
I have hair in this picture. Oh, but that's a
you know, that's a sixteen year old. We're both sixteen. There.
What year was that for you?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I would have been two thousand and four.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah, that was ninety three for me.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Wow. Yeah, I always thought we were closer in eighty No.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
No, no, no. Look, and there's a basketball me. You
were bigger in your BASKETBA. Did you play basketball too?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I stopped growing in six grades, though I did rec.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Leagues because that guy would have put you in the run.
It probably would he would have probably No. But I look,
I'm a proponent of DNA is a real thing.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
And so a lot of people and a lot of
parents put a lot of pressure on their younger kids
talking about if you do this, you can do that.
Look at Steph Curry. Steph Curry's father was one of
the greatest shooters to play in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
And it's not small. He's not he's small by NBA
senators three six three like a buck ninety.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
He's not a tiny person. Yeah, and so and in
baseball the same way, I see a lot of parents, really,
you know, hammering down of you can do this and
you can go to the league. And DNA is a
real thing. There's a reason why they're more second generation
NFL players and NBA players. This is this is a
(21:49):
real thing, right, So my kids are going to be
they already athletic, super athletic. My twelve year old is
five to seven according to his physical he took on Monday,
and that is far. That's your height. That is literally
with shoes on, and he has essentially nine more years
(22:10):
to grow. Wow. So I tell them all the time,
one day you're going to wake up six' nine and
then your your journey will be, different and then you
better be good at. Sports your path will be. Different
but at six,' nine they'll wait for you to. Be
good you'll get opportunity after opportunity. After opportunity if you
are six' nine and you, don't play sports it's. Gonna.
(22:30):
BE difficult yeah i mean they do that. All the
time they go other places of the countries and they
see a kid walking around who's, Sixteen, six, nine like
HEY he's like. I play soccer, they're, like, no, no, no
no no no. No no no come, come. With me sir
i'm really.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Into building computers, not not.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Today not today, you know what you can, do that
later but right now we're gonna do, this.
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Speaker 7 (24:39):
Think about it you from you're, doing your business you,
open the fridge you. Got whip cream.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
That's a move that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Is a move.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
We.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Had, different, Paths yeah choices we, all make choices, some good.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Okay so well speaking, of bad, CHOICES all right nba
opening week has been announced to all. THE national games
i want to focus specifically. On, opening? Nights okay okay
it opens Up three pm eastern? For Whatever reason sel wait?
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Wait? Three Eastern?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yes what celtics what?
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Day is That?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
On A, tuesday oh, Mike, no stop hey you ain't
putting kids.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
In school either you didn't think?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Schooling was Important?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Three, pm eastern Yes.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Three pm, eastern, that's, Noon yes noon NEW twelve thirty
a Game is On. Celtic's, at, pistons okay okay shout Out,
out in, Silver the Nightcap, thunder at spurs The primetime Game.
Sixers AT nicks and i don't, know ABOUT you but
(25:47):
i got a problem With That because adam SILVER and
the nba at large continues to refuse to promote the
next wave of stars the way.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
That.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
They should oh they have been Stuck on the lebron
steph kdi era for. Twenty years? Now god, Forbid, YOU
mentioned hey sga BACK. To back mvp that team statistically
has been the best team in the league now for
about two and a. Half three seasons maybe we should
(26:23):
make them, the marquee matchup or, since it is we're
Gonna Sellbrate The new york, knicks's ring night the GREATEST team,
in anba History. The playoff knicks maybe we should have
a finals rematch and put the, Next Big thing Victor
Wembnyama in new york to take On To The. New york, Knicks,
but no Instead My guy adam silver Latches On to lebron,
(26:47):
james once again knowing full well that for all the,
pomp and circumstance for all The Celebration, regarding lebron james
his teams have not really been in the mix at
all for the. Last five years and.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
It's not like he.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Hasn't Had, talent anthony. Davis Of course luka doncis most
recently won A. Championship with, anthony he did but after
that it's been out in the first round, couple of
times missed the playoffs a, couple of times got swept
out of the playoffs. Couple of times and yet they
continue to promote him and to, A Lesser extent Stephen
Curry and kevin durant and make them the faces of
(27:26):
the league rather than Getting with the times having a
forward thinking mindset and putting out the next, Wave of Stars,
Victor wembin yama Victor, S She. A anthony edwards why
On Earth has adam silver and the powers that be
(27:48):
decided that they would rather give us the hypothetical supposed
rivalry match Up here Between Philadelphia and new york when
those two teams have only been in the playoffs twice.
In fifty years what rivalry is there to Promote outside
(28:08):
Of Come see lebron james against. The defending champions make, it,
MAKE sense.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Well i will the reason that they're still riding the
cotails of these great players, that you Mentioned Most, notably
lebron james is because that's what the peep pole. Want
to see the fans want To See that adam silver
(28:34):
is aware, of the metrics, aware of viewership aware of
all of the ratings for. Everybody they understand you, Got
To remember Adam silver begged lebron to make a decision
so they can. Make the schedule this is the Reason
why if Lebron Is, in golden State Then it's golden
State versus The Lakers.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
On.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Opening Night right if lebron goes to you, know wherever
else it's that team because people he understands people still
revere and love Or Hate. Watch lebron james now Him,
going to philadelphia which is a Stone's Throw, from new
york which he's probably, gonna, live there right is? What
(29:19):
they said that that's that in itself IS. Must see
tv we want. To see that we Want to See,
brunson and lebron uh and And and And Cat and
jalen brown and embiid like we want. To see that
so he's giving the fans and the people what they. Want,
to see now you, may be irked and you, may
(29:41):
be like it's time For. The young bucks but out
of all of those players, That You, Mentioned anthony Edwards,
shay and wimby? Who's box office WHO'S? Must? See Tv,
Wemby wimby right wimby, They the Ratings that's. What i'm
saying wenby is one of the only ones out. Of
those three? So who else what other young star? Is
(30:03):
box office that's the Problem THEY went and i mean
for years They've Been, LIKE anthony, Davis I, Mean anthony
edwards you're going to be the face. OF the league i. Don't, want,
IT oh okay i. Don't want it there ain't got
nothing to, do. With me Folks i'm just. I'm just,
bawling oh okay well who who else out Of these
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young The problem with shay is the way his style
of play kind of turned a lot. Of people off
this this this playoff right. Like it was it kind
of it got gross all. Of a sudden i'm one.
OF those people, i was like, you're too good too
skilled to throw your body on the. Floor like that
(30:46):
he just when you're going when when you're, drawing a
foul you should also try to. Make the shot that's.
The whole thing like you don't pump fake and then
cannon ball your your body into them facing the opposite
direction like, you're gonna shoot but you don't. Actually shoot
it it's just a style of in a brand of
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basketball that a lot of people don't. Want to see
so out of those, three young, stars you Say you Know, Victor,
woman yama yes and they're playing later, on, that night
Right but.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
For marque Games but the.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Marquee game Is obviously the knicks who've won the championship
going against their rival Now in The. East in philadelphia
with The Addition of Jalen Brown. And lebron james that
to ME. Is mussy tv and that's. Why it's there
it's not so much we're gonna keep pandering to, these
Older Stars but steph curry, still, box office right and.
(31:43):
Until they're not this is what the league or the
networks are. Going to do and if you're, running the business.
You do that you're not gonna give people a bunch
of stuff that they don't want to.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
See you HERE but the nfl doesn't have this problem. Because,
they Will hey, pay manning's out got a new. Guy
coming in, but you Know, dut wet gus that's.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
A good point You? Know why WHY because the nba is.
A player's league it's, built on. Players the shields so
don't they have to build the? Players, The, end, no
no no the players. Come with it They. Didn't BUILD
lebron when kd came, into the LEAGUE. He was kd are? You,
kidding me.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Well he was not marketed the way that.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
He, is now no because he became a seven, foot,
Sharp Shooter right steph curry became the greatest shooter. Of all,
time he did and.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
They did a great job Of Marketing.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
In lebron james became What They thought lebron james was
gonna be and he.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Became better THAT, in the nfl it's.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Not, Like That say kwan barkley had one of the
greatest years any player has ever had. Two, years ago
yeah he got The, cover of madden he got. All
these things but we're just talking. About THE team the
nfl is. Built AROUND team the nba is built on
individuals their individual talent because you can take over a.
(33:01):
Game by YOURSELF. In the nba you can't take over a. Game,
By Yourself well. Sakwon, barkley did yeah but there was
five guys In Front of saquon barkley that helped him take.
Over that game and. That's the difference basketball is an,
ultimate Team game, right but football in order to be
(33:23):
that guy and, be that standout you need all ten
other players on either side of the ball to be
great for you.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
To, Be great okay i'm gonna ask you this One question.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
And i'll get.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
It one answer what was the most watched regular season
GAME in the nba? Season last?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Year, regular season, Yep, uh birds okay see. That, Is
correct absolutely.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
So why on earth are neither of those Teams in?
The marquee matchup because you're telling me it's a numbers
game and the audience is gonna dictate what you. Want to,
watch they told, you know why we want to watch,
high level, basket you know and that seven foot twelve
dude Right There in san. Antonio is boxing you?
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Know why why because there. Was resolution there there. Was
resolution there the reason it was much the most watched
game last year is because do YOU remember how okayc
started the season that, people were like no one can
beat them until They played the spurs and they beat,
them a lot and then They played, the spurs again they,
(34:24):
beat them again and then They played, the spurs again
and so now now, people, were, like oh oh this
is this is something it, Now GUESS what if Okayc,
beats the spurs it's not the Most watched tam it's
not the. Most watched game it's not if They, beat
the spurs if they, blow them out if they came
and they beat them and they the first two times,
(34:46):
they beat them We're not even they're. Just beating everybody
but this was the one team that they did not
have an answer for. In that story as someone who's
a writer and can, create a narrative, create a story
that's A story that, i can sell and that's THE
story THAT i can i have people opt. In to
watching that's the great. Thing about sport, it's it's competition
(35:11):
but there's a story. Behind the competition we want To
See if lebron james at fifty can, GO out here i,
just you know at forty one can go out here
and play up against the defending champions with. His new
team and when, that's a story that's something you want to.
(35:31):
Sign up for you don't want to sign UP For
the okc spurs matchup that you already saw the, outcome
of that not only, in the series but during. The
regular season that's not a story you would, automatically Be
like the spurs gonna beat them because they've been beating them.
All last year? Where's the draw where?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Is?
Speaker 5 (35:50):
The draw not now You get. WHAT i'm saying i
saw it click. IN your mind i. Saw it click, he,
was like damn he. Got a point, oh my. GOODNESS
he's right i would.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
To go.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
DOWN oh shucks i didn't even think about. That like
that but that's that's, what. It's about man it's about
the story is what, brings the viewers and if it's not.
A compelling Story okac and spurs. Are, not compelling okay it,
was last year but. They Put that the spurs put.
That to bed so now what's? The news? STORY all.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
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nfl insider yeah in the middle of his, Training Camp,
(36:44):
tour adam?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Kaplan? What's, up adam.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
Applause guys are going to. Talk to, You, thank you.
Hey thank you.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
It's. My guy man, How?
Speaker 7 (36:51):
You doing adham it's, been a while even in, a, Long,
TIME man, MAN i, know i, know but yeah. Lots
going on i'm just started my tour of seeing three
teams at all see two Tomorrow and then i'll get
rolling next.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Week big time well we'll definitely.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Get INTO that but i was told during the update
in our ear that You loved what Ephram Said about
kyler murray and, even was like of course. He did
that i'm good at this. Kind of stuff so what
exactly did you Love about? What Kyler situation minute.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
First of all ephrom played in the scheme that they Were,
on in Minnesota Played, in west coast so he knows
that the quarterbacks got to. Play on time and it's
just interesting that McCarthy was drafted to play in the
system and Struggle Processing and kyler murray's never been a
quarterback who's. Played on, time but yeah clearly won. The
STARTING job as i was told a, couple hours ago.
(37:36):
It was this they didn't want to. Delay the inevitable
They knew that, kyler had it and you know that's
why they. Did it, now, But yeah again ephrom Knows
he's watched matt shob and other quarterbacks playing the scheme and.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Have, Ultimate success YEAH and what i, was, saying is
look we understand what the quarterback class next year is going.
To look like. In the, draft oh yeah everyone's Hoping
yet right like it's there's some names there that will
be available that you, Can, really say okay look we're
going to we're going to draft this guy and we're
(38:11):
going to bet the next ten. Years, ON him obviously
jj McCarthy is. Not that guy it's. Not THAT guy
and i want to get off OF that and i
want to get onto out of all the places you've, been,
so far right you've been six five or six training.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
Camp so, FAR for tomorrow i. Seen, five teams okay.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
So out of the, four you've seen who is who's impressed.
YOU the most i gotta Tell. You the giants. First
Of All seeing john Harball all the giants practice field was.
Bizarre to me and THEN of course I was at
baltimore today and. He, wasn't, there well yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:46):
Which is odd you're going, back to back but he's
got things humming and let me let me. Give it
in let me set. The Scene Right so john harble
is an all. Special teams guy he was a longtime
special teams Coach for the eagles before he became the
head Coach. Of the ravens so they have a warm
up here which, is pretty long and they did forty.
Five minutes on they were, using two fields but one
(39:07):
of them was, half a field just doing special teams
work like. That's unheard of but that's, the discipline guys
and you from you know, as a player when somebody
comes in that's new, to the club they got to
set the example and they're just it's the, lot longest practice,
BY the way i was talking to Someone with. The
ravens today he does things specifically to. Test the players
(39:31):
what does it one thirty, middle of afternoon. Ninety, degree
weather okay could have done it at seventy am to help.
The players out he. Didn't do that he wants to
set the toughness and there's a tremendous discipline just, being
around him. Very businesslike club so you asked me right,
off the bat they've got. It going on there's, a
tremendous discipline. Which they needed there was total chaos Last
(39:53):
Season with brian dable in, his last year and then they.
Got It home and i'll. Tell you what they've added
a ton of. TALENT on offense i was very IMPRESSED
with what i saw from, their OFFENSIVE talent.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
AND i said i think IT was yesterday i was
saying that what we do Know about the giants is
they need an adult. In the room right when you
when You Look at jackson dart and You, look at
scatable they need an adult. In The room and hardball
is That guy, like if not this thing was about
to go off the. Rails, for real, seriously go, AHEAD right.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Yeah i mean you're gonna need to be some serious
stuff because those two guys they might not make it through,
half a season but the, way they play one dude's
doing backflips, on the stage the other guys throwing his
head into the three. Hundre pound, LINEMAN but yeah i
know You Visited the baltimore ravens as well during the
training camps.
Speaker 7 (40:35):
They, got actually yeah they got a new coach in.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Place As well lamar jackson has been arguably the best
QUARTERBACK in the nfl the last three. Or four seasons
get it down your. Last because' injury can we expect
a bounce back from him with, this new regime or
is it going to be? An, adjustment period.
Speaker 7 (40:50):
Well if jesse mentor, the head coach they're gonna they're gonna.
Run the ball this is You Know with derrick henry
that it's gonna. Start with HIM but what i, find
interesting is you know they they're gonna change it up
a little bit in. Terms, of philosophy uh this is
hard to believe in, the first time probably out in
over A decade that. I saw this but they don't
(41:12):
have A fullback Like patrick riccard now who was one
of the best FULLBACKS. Of the nfl one with Hardball
to The Giants, and declan doyle who's the youngest offensive
Coordinator Of The. National football league he Came. Over from
chicago he was the he was a play he was
not The play car Last Year, with ben johnson he
was called, the offensive coordinator but he even called the place.
(41:34):
The first time at, thirty years old. He's calling plays
but his Roots Are. With sean payton he Coached, with
the saints and He was on shawn's staff early On.
With the broncos so it's. Gonna, look different yes they're gonna.
Run the ball it's gonna revolve around play action and.
The run game but they're gonna bring a lot. OF
different concepts i really look forward To seeing. What baltimore
(41:56):
does it's. Gonna look, different BUT unfortunately and i. SAW
it happened i was able to see that. The Injury
happen nate wiggins their, their top corner the left corner.
Back number two. He went up it was, a deep,
route left corner uh in the end zone and he
Went Up, with jacoby lane their third round receiver OUT.
Of usc is that really, really looks good, by the
(42:18):
way really having. A Great camp uh wiggins riving in
paid holding his left knee and leg. It look bad,
he's HAVING testing as, i understand it and they're hoping.
For the best but if he's out for a long time,
or the season they're in trouble because they're they they're
they're they're backups OTHER Than the tg champa. Are all
journeymen chaudobi a woozy will be who will Step in
(42:42):
for wiggins. At least temporarily Was there A many war
many a warrior formerly the lines was?
Speaker 5 (42:49):
A draft?
Speaker 7 (42:49):
Pick Is there so i'm hoping that this is not a,
long term injury.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
But we'll see let's Talk. About the eagles you visited them.
This TRAINING, CAMP uh i i guess this is The.
NEW look EAGLES i Guess I think jalen hurts is
still on the. Hot seat possibly is this what you saw?
In training camp are there going back to two years
(43:13):
ago where they were, a Heavy Run heavy saquon barkley
team or are they trying to Kind Of usher jalen
hurts into more, of a dynamic, past the ball down
the field. Type of, Quarterback all right.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
So what's interesting is what you brought up was their
offense in, twenty twenty two the first Year the aj.
Brown was there they made a decision that they were
going to throw the ball deep that the league had
no idea. What to Expect hurts and, brown were unbelievable
and then it. Kind of cratered The Offensive coordinator brian
johnson got Caught in Between Hurts and nick sirianni where
(43:49):
they were not having a great relationship. With twenty three,
they met defenses, everything was Great Won a, super bowl
though as, You talked about barkley signs there has the
BEST season in nfl history from the. Getting to. End
it's incredible and then last season he from their offensive
line just got old real. Quick beat Up They uh
(44:10):
cam jurgen's had, surgery The center THEN dickerson had i
think his. Fifth knee surgery he's. Had Back, problems lane
johnson who's Probably gonna Be, hall of famer, the right
tackle he wound up getting, hurt last season He Had the.
List frank rupture He's fine Now i'll.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Be he.
Speaker 7 (44:28):
Left he's back he left the team temporarily to tend.
To personal business but the thing Is, he from yeah
they're definitely getting back. To the run it starts. With
a run As long as. Barkley's is There it's gonna they're.
Gonna run it but they're now they're going to the
First Time in nick. Sirianni six years They're Going to
west Coast Scheme and sean mannion come he just retired.
(44:48):
Three years ago now. He's calling plays. It looks different
it's Really odd watching hurts trying to get the ball
Out quickly like. I'm seeing Now You. Mentioned jackson dart
They're Going To. West coast darts it's not real. Comfortable with,
it you know, he's a playmaker. Real athletic scrambler he'll
make a lot of plays and he. Gives up play he,
(45:08):
Makes bad decisions. So it's good you gotta be. Patient
giant fans but they got a. Lot of talent but
Getting back to philly to. Finish them off they have
enough there from their skill set at the receiver in
tight end to. Get This done but hertz has just
got to play. Consistently on time he's never done that
since he was drafted.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
IN twenty twenty i guess it's essentially a make a
break here for him right.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
In a way because he's stud to. For an extention, you're, absolutely.
Right yep, yeap in fact there's not a lot of
guaranteed money. Next year's contract he's going to won a
new deal if. He plays well, AND you're, RIGHT i,
THINK i mean i can't. Argue with you he's got
to play well this season for him. To extend It.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
His, Name's Adam Kaplan, FOX sports Radio. Nffol insider adam
enjoy the rest of the training, camp, to him man
we'll talk.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
To you. Soon appreciating, cap thanks guys
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He played a little football back in the day too,
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Speaker 5 (00:59):
What's up, Rob? How you doing? What's up? Man? Like
all the times I've ever you know, filled in and
all of that, I've never done it with you. And
I heard that you get a little nervous sometimes, grus
if you're If you need any help. I'm here for you. Okay.
The listeners, uh, they want your best okay, and and
and I'm sure that you're going to knock this out
(01:20):
the park, I hope.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
So I was feeling really good about myself until Alex said, Hey,
if we're going to be doing the zoom, I'm gonna
need you eat him to drop your chair down, and
Robs you bring your chair up so y'all can be
the same height. I like that.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
I mean, like where he started. You want me to
sit on the ground.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I guess I would prefer that I have to stand up.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
You're gonna taller.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
If I stood up and you're sitting down, you're probably
still three inches taller than me.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yes, that's correct, but that you know, Hey, we all
had choices. I did not your parents, Okay, I had choices. Okay,
all right, if your mom decided that she was going
to be with minute Bowl, they wouldn't be having this conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
So that's one thing the bar ball got right. She yes,
He's like, yes, I got a date of basketball play
because I'm gonna breed three boys. They're all gonna play.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
He did.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Actually, there you go, that's a good point, a man.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You gotta walk into this thing. My so, my son
who's twelve, turned twelve three weeks ago when took his physical, okay,
uh Friday or no Monday, Monday, and he is uh
five to seven, he's twelve already, yes, okay. My wife
is almost six feet she's five eleven and so. But
(02:29):
you thought that was a mistake. You thought I was
like you thought I was like, I don't know, maybe
maybe maybe not. No, No, this is you had a prerequest.
Every everything is on purpose. Everything's on purpose. So when
I say you had choices, now, look there were other
people available.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I'm sure there were.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Okay, Now, not to take anything away from the amazing
chemistry and instant attraction between my wife and I. It
just everything lined up personality wise, height, genetics, the whole
nine yards. And now we have a six three fifteen
year old and a five to seven twelve year old.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I don't like them, I tell you. With shoes on, yeah,
five to seven.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Okay, I'm literally I'm literally sitting in here with a
grown man who's the size of my twelve years whatever.
What a brand new twelve year old though he didn't
he's not even through pre prebity yet. Like he's just
turned twelve on the twenty fifth of June. So we
(03:31):
got that.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Happy birthday to how's the body watch situation in your house?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
We'll get to that later. We got so much to
get to you on today show Adam Kaplan coming up
at bottom of the hour of Fox Sports Radio, NFL Inside,
we got some NBA scheduling conversation, shot taking shots at Lebron.
We got to start out with the big news of
the day. The Minnesota Vikings have settled on their quarterback
for the season. Their QB one will be none other
(04:01):
than Kyler Murray. And I want to start with this.
Even you and I, not just in media, but in general,
we all know people who continue to fail upwards. Right, Yes,
the guy who shows up to work late all the
time still gets promoted. The guy who failed out of
all his classes, but his dad runs aheade fund, so
he's making six figures out of college.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Happens.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Kyler Murray is the NFL equivalent. Okay, there is no
good reason why Kyler Murray keeps getting these opportunities that
he does not deserve. Ok And it goes all the
way back. So when he first got drafted, by the Cardinals. Okay,
if I'm five to seven, he's five to nine.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
All right.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I've met Kyler Murray a handful of times on Super
Bowl Radio row and if his hair wasn't picked out
when the fro me and him were almost high level.
Because he is not a large individual, but yet, because
Cliff Kingsbury was the man in charge there in Arizona,
they decided, I don't care what history says about small quarterbacks.
I don't mind that he only had one season as
(05:02):
a starter. I'm gonna make him the first overall pick,
and forget the fact that we just drafted Josh Rosen
to be our QB won the year before. This is
the guy I'm gonna hitch my wagon too. Yes, Okay,
So they do that a couple years later, without having
really done anything in the league yet. At that point,
Kyler Murray decides, you know what, I am gonna black
(05:22):
out my Instagram. I'm gonna scrub all mention of the
Cardinals and my social media accounts because I believe that
I deserve a new contract. I don't think he had
done anything to get it, but he got one. They
felt so confident in him that they put a clause
in his contract as said, you have to watch a
(05:43):
certain amount of tape. You cannot be playing call of
duty while you're doing this, because not only did they
know he wasn't watching it, he had set himself to
The New York Times a couple of years before, saying, Yeah,
I'm not the kind of guy grinds taped like that
because I just see things out there. I don't really
gotta worry about preparing the way an average quarterback might prepare.
Flash forward now to last season. Right he only starts
(06:06):
five games, part of it due to injury, of course,
and historically has a lot of injury issues. But even
when he was out there, when the Cardinals were as
healthy as they had been all season, he was mediocre
at best. Right think he averaged about two hundred and
eighty total yards of offense rushing and throwing. His team
(06:27):
averaged about twenty points per game. They soft benched him.
We'll call it back. They said he was hurt. He
could have came back. He decided not to come back.
We don't know what the reason was. But did you
know that when Jakoby Brissett took over with they banged
up Arizona Cardinal offense, they averaged more yards per game
(06:48):
and more points per game. And yet I just heard
you tell Rich Davis during the commercial break as we're
switching shows that they may not win a game this
season because Jacoby we said he's not a good NFL
quarterback and Arson Beck might be their starter. So I
ask you this, now, what on earth has Kyler Murray
done to slide into Minnesota in a situation that has
(07:14):
arguably a top five offensive unit outside of the quarterback.
You have one of the better offensive minds a head coach,
and he is just given the QB one job without
having any real competition. I do not understand this. How
does this keep happening to a guy like Kyler Murray?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Well, because there's always a need for a quarterback, that's
the underlying thing. Like you would say, okay, how does
a guy continue to get multiple opportunities? Some may have
said that about Sam Donald right now. Sam Donald is
a Super Bowl champion and has turned his entire career around.
People are saying that right now with Bryce Young.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Also my height.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Also, the fact is there's not enough quality in terms
of you know, the thirty two starting quarterbacks. There's always
going to be ten or so teams that are looking
for their starter, and when you're looking for your starter,
(08:22):
you're trying to find the best talent that you can have.
Kyler Murray is the best talented quarterback on that roster.
There was a miss with JJ McCarthy. Sure, all right,
they understand that. That's why they went and got Kyler
Murray because they understood, oh wow, we really should have
kept Sam Donald. But we felt the pressure of this
(08:46):
first round draft pick, right, we use it on JJ McCarthy.
She got hurt, traded up, got hurt, and we had
a phenomenal year. We have to move off of Sam Donald,
even though we may not want to see what JJ has.
He doesn't have what they think they can use for
the next ten years. Is Kyler Murray the answer for
(09:07):
the next ten years. No, But what he can do
is he can help him compete when Kyler is engaged
and involved. And this is a very important year for him.
This is a very important year for him because he
is going to an offensive system that is conducive to
making quarterbacks who are afterthoughts be good. He is going
to an offensive minded coach. He is going to a
(09:29):
team with one of the arguably the best receivers we've
seen in the last decade. Everything is leaning towards him
having a rebirth, a resurgence of his career, similar to
what happened with Sam Darnold now in terms of him
taking it serious and studying and doing the things you
(09:50):
have to do to be a starting quarterback. If he
hasn't crossed that threshold yet, then the same old thing
is going to happen. But on that roster right now.
You know, your question is how does he keep getting
an opportunity because there's talent there. We've seen the talent.
We've seen the talent. You also have to remember Arizona
wasn't a hotbed of talent. Oh they have talent on
(10:14):
that round, They were not I'm talking about when he
got there. You can talk about the talent now. When
he got there, they weren't a hot bit. No one
was talking about how talented the Arizona roster is. But
we can.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Go ahead. I'm sorry, Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Okay, what we do know is Minnesota has talent everywhere, Yes,
starting with the coaching, Yes, this is okay, let's know
what we got. You know what you have in JJ McCarthy.
You know what that is. You don't like what you have,
but someth's in of and something's cooking right. Put it
on three p. Fifty. Sit it in there for eighteen weeks,
(10:56):
see what that thing look like, and see what it
tastes like at the end. And that's where they are
with Kyle Murray right now. The talent is there. He's
been a Pro Bowl quarterback, even though that's not saying
much in today's landscape. S newp. Huntley's been a Probole's
crazy to me. Damn, I wish just was like that
when I was playing. It wasn't. I digress. But look,
Kyler has an opportunity to resurrect his career, to really
(11:21):
have people looking like they were looking at Sam Donald
the last couple of years, and this is the perfect
place for to do that.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Well, you bring up Sam Donald. Sam Donald was not
given the same opportunities that Kyler Murray has gotten. Sam
Donald when he got dumped by Carolina. He was a
backup in San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
San Francisco. He was broadest thing that ever could have
happened to him.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Go ahead, he was a supposed to be the backup
in Minnesota. But JJ McCarthy got hurt and then he
kind of got thrushed into the job. And then once
he got here to Seattle, I know that he got
the Super Bowl and that's great. He also led the
league in turnovers, so it's not like he was really,
Oh my gosh, can you believe we all missed on
Sam Donald?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
No one missed on Sam Donald. Right, Sam Donald had
to become Sam Donald. Sure, as we know, if you
go to the Jets as a quarterback, then you can
throw away your first four years. You can just throw
them away right, ball him up, throw him OUTA can't
count it. Most guys don't survive after that. Now, Sam
had an opportunity to go to Carolina, had an opportunity
(12:21):
to go to San Francisco because Shanahan believed in him
and gave him opportunity to really learn, learn what it
really takes to become a quarterback. If you don't have that,
I can guarantee you Kyler Murray didn't have it in Arizona, right,
the system that was in place, and I'll explain it
to you and I'll tell you why. Sure, of course,
Cliff Kingsbury was there and he knew Kyler and that's
(12:45):
too familiar. You know what you can get away with, right.
I know on this show, I can just run you
over what right, like I could just right, I know,
I know it. I'm just teasing, but I know what
I'm dealing with. He knows what he was dealing with. Right.
He's in a situation now where he doesn't have the
upper hand.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
He's not the first, but it feels like it is
because this was not a real quarterback competition. As soon
as they brought him in, the assumtion was that he
was going to be the.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Quarterback, of course, because they know what they have.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, and but that's fair.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
If your wife can't cook, my wife, I'm just saying,
if your wife can't cook. Hypothetically, if your wife can't
cook and you come home and she's been cooking all day,
you already know, damn, this is not it. You already know, right,
You'll sit down, you'll eat it, You'll be like, oh, yes,
whatever that relationship is. But you know, now, if your
(13:38):
wife's mom is there and you come home and she's cooking,
you're like, oh, we what were we having? This is what?
And I'm just trying to use that to just try
to to have people understand how coaching staffs think. Right,
they know what's cooking with him in there behind, you know,
QB one. They know what JJ is cooking. It's not
(13:59):
very good. Well, eat it if we have to, but
it's not very good. Right now, Kyler has come in,
He's shown that he can make a good dish, not consistently,
but maybe the infrastructure, maybe the ingredients, well, maybe the
ingredients weren't there to consistently make a great dish. They
got an offensive line, they got a running game, they
(14:20):
got a hell of a receiving corps, and an offensive
minded coach. The ingredient. There is no other ingredients. Okay,
Sam Donald became five star michelan chef in that kitchen.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
All right, let me ask you this question then, because
if you're saying that they already knew they were gonna
get off a JJ McCarthy, yes, that was already the plan.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
The last four seasons, Kyler Murray has missed thirty out
of sixty eight games. He's ranked in the bottom ten
amongst NFL starting quarterbacks at least twenty five starts in
win percentage yards per attempt TD percentage passer rating. Yes, so,
I ask you if you already knew you were gonna
move on from JJ mc Yes, why did you settle
(15:02):
on that guy?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Because you know what the quarterback draft is like this
coming up season. That's why you know what the quarterback
draft is going to look like coming up this next offseason.
You're okay with Kyler Murray coming in there, that's fine.
Can we compete? We'll find out early on if we'll
(15:24):
be able to compete in that division, which is pretty
stacked by the way. Yes, you'll find out if you
can compete. Now, if you can't, all right, we're moving on.
We know Manning, the kid from Mississippi State, any of
the other young quarterbacks who are Heisman hopefuls, they're coming up,
(15:44):
So you understand what's happening. You didn't sign Kyler Murray
to a five year, one hundred and you know two
hundred and twenty two million dollar deal, No, you didn't.
What you don't want to do is waste more time
with JJ McCarthy. You don't want to do that. Maybe
he'll turn into something in four or five years as
a backup or whatever, but coming out of college, he
really wasn't a first round draft pick. Our first round talent. Anyway,
(16:05):
I think Harball convinced people that, you know, he was
perfect close. He didn't even pass the ball in college.
What type of pro style is that? So look all
they're doing. It's a stopgap, man, It's a band aid,
but it's a pretty it's a pretty exotic band aid.
Got some birds on there. You know that's design. It's
(16:26):
not the plane, old beige rubber band that you find
at the bottom of a swimming pool. It's it's an
exotic rubber band. And you're trying to see a mesquit
a band aid. Then you're trying to see if this
thing really works.
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Speaker 4 (16:51):
I can't believe I'm arguing with the guy who's bragging
about being built like Rob Parker six five and eighty pounds.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah, that's how he's built now as a grown man.
Just saying over here, I was that. I was that
as a sixteen year old.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
So you were a young Rob Parker anyways, Wow.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Well we could talk about how you were built in
the yes.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
How were you here the same I was seventeen six
I was sixteen in that picture.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, so two sixteen year olds against each other.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah, one of them looks like Rob Parker. One of
them looks the way I still look now. I haven't
grown since sixth grade. And it shows we all have choices. Man,
it is the odd couple with me. Robert Garrett tried
harder in high school. But Kyler Murray's is starting quarterback
in the NFL or whatever for a right offensive lineman.
(17:37):
Kyler Murray's he's there, apparently the greatest high school player ever.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
From no, no, no, no, no, no. For Rob Parker Washington,
I was a pretty good sixteen year old player as
a senior, two years younger than everybody else. So why
I skipped two grades? Why because I was being disruptive
in class with my grades didn't reflect that.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
You like nine people in your high school? Is that
what it was?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Okay, no, I get it's fine.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
No.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I went from first to third to fifth, all right,
So I skipped second and those are the easy grades.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Anyway, tell me you skipped the freshman and sophomore year.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
You don't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You skip the tradition, and I skipped, uh reading.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Well, that's how you get to high school to thirteen
and graduated sixteen.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
That's not impressive to me. Like I said, I know
how to read it, Like I said, you should have tried.
It's all there. I mean, I'm not making it up.
You didn't even go to high school. You just said
you skipped.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
All the years.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
I did not. I skipped.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
So you so you didn't try elementary in fourth grade?
So you didn't try in elementary school?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
No, I didn't have to. That's what was easy. I
could read that start trying til later. Yeah, you had
to force myself to try because everything came easy.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
So what do you tell your kids then, because I'm
sure they know.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I have a twelve year old right now who's gifted,
and so he didn't try and no, no, no, he
has to try now. He didn't try in elementary school
and he tested off the charts. And that's the problem.
That's because because now things are getting a little bit
more difficult and he doesn't even have you know, he
(19:17):
didn't develop how to study and how to prepare. He's
literally just reading it and doing it and it's easy.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Kyler Murrayden's study are prepared. He just got himself a
new gig. That's true, all right.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
And for all you.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
People, the YouTube is the automobile with some of your
comments throughout the show. I see you talking about, Oh,
we're not getting any calls another Rob Parker pocket we are.
We have trash talk coming up in about forty minutes.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
This is trash talking to your breaks.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Okay, you guys are ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
We've sent our photo evidence to social media guru Elijah
and he will be posting them. So please check those
out and tell us who you'd put your money on.
Check it out. Oh god, both of those kids are
sixteen whatever one you got in nineteen eighty one. One's
(20:03):
me and one's this guy. Who do you think could
get to the quarterback or stop somebody from getting me? Quarterback?
Me with them arm bands?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
And yes, I was so look out jack, I was
back then, jacked, yes, jacked in tank.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Look how skinny you were, Widow's peak. You have I
did to shave it off.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
See that. At least I got hair.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Your hair it's gone, man, I have hair in this picture. Yeah,
I have hair in this picture. Oh, but that's a
you know, that's a sixteen year old. We're both sixteen. There.
What year was that for you?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I would have been two thousand and four.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah, that was ninety three for me.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Wow. Yeah, I always thought we were closer in eighty No.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
No, no, no. Look, and there's a basketball me. You
were bigger in your BASKETBA. Did you play basketball too?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I stopped growing in six grades, though I did rec.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Leagues because that guy would have put you in the run.
It probably would he would have probably No. But I look,
I'm a proponent of DNA is a real thing.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
And so a lot of people and a lot of
parents put a lot of pressure on their younger kids
talking about if you do this, you can do that.
Look at Steph Curry. Steph Curry's father was one of
the greatest shooters to play in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
And it's not small. He's not he's small by NBA
senators three six three like a buck ninety.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
He's not a tiny person. Yeah, and so and in
baseball the same way, I see a lot of parents, really,
you know, hammering down of you can do this and
you can go to the league. And DNA is a
real thing. There's a reason why they're more second generation
NFL players and NBA players. This is this is a
(21:49):
real thing, right, So my kids are going to be
they already athletic, super athletic. My twelve year old is
five to seven according to his physical he took on Monday,
and that is far. That's your height. That is literally
with shoes on, and he has essentially nine more years
(22:10):
to grow. Wow. So I tell them all the time,
one day you're going to wake up six' nine and
then your your journey will be, different and then you
better be good at. Sports your path will be. Different
but at six,' nine they'll wait for you to. Be
good you'll get opportunity after opportunity. After opportunity if you
are six' nine and you, don't play sports it's. Gonna.
(22:30):
BE difficult yeah i mean they do that. All the
time they go other places of the countries and they
see a kid walking around who's, Sixteen, six, nine like
HEY he's like. I play soccer, they're, like, no, no, no
no no no. No no no come, come. With me sir
i'm really.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Into building computers, not not.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Today not today, you know what you can, do that
later but right now we're gonna do, this.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
So okay so before we GET to, This, nba topic
yes Let's Do dj alex heichton on the wheels steel?
Has the utube is the addom mob weighing in hot
and heavy?
Speaker 5 (22:59):
On this top what?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
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such an odd. Couple in today for, THE odd, couple
i thought why don't WE peruse the u two being
to see what they.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Have to say this is my favorite one of the.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Days so far i've never heard of, this name Before
but bo benson five, three six says who's the eighth Grader?
Hosting with ephraim that's. A good one that's.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
A good one i could pass as at the Ten
year old Simo and get i'll tell you, that right now.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Right right now you Can Go to north. Hollywood right,
now oh yeah you actually. Get. A scholarship probably.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
This one's Good sean throst good says this is the
best due on the odd.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Couple so. FAR thank you. I take that.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
IT'S not bad, i, LIKE that right. I like that This,
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from damien nine to, five zero said skipping any elementary
school is Not of flex those. Are basic classes, oh that's,
right so.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
RIGHT that's right i asked him how old he was
when he. Graduated high school i'll definitely get ON that
because i was in. College at sixteen this is another.
Good one Here. THIS is clegg i have. Seven to,
one two says damn. NO callings today i guess this
is the type Of Lame podcast rob parker. Be Talking,
About So.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Hey rob parker hosts the lame podcast? What's that again
It's called The Inside? The parker podcast? What's that drop
it actually. Dropped earlier Today let's get robs. Off all
week i'm. A published early i.
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know they've done something.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
On the fridge. It's a memory and then.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Think about it you from you're, doing your business you,
open the fridge you. Got whip cream.
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That's a move that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Is a move.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
We.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Had, different, Paths yeah choices we, all make choices, some good.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Okay so well speaking, of bad, CHOICES all right nba
opening week has been announced to all. THE national games
i want to focus specifically. On, opening? Nights okay okay
it opens Up three pm eastern? For Whatever reason sel wait?
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Wait? Three Eastern?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yes what celtics what?
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Day is That?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
On A, tuesday oh, Mike, no stop hey you ain't
putting kids.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
In school either you didn't think?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Schooling was Important?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Three, pm eastern Yes.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Three pm, eastern, that's, Noon yes noon NEW twelve thirty
a Game is On. Celtic's, at, pistons okay okay shout Out,
out in, Silver the Nightcap, thunder at spurs The primetime Game.
Sixers AT nicks and i don't, know ABOUT you but
(25:47):
i got a problem With That because adam SILVER and
the nba at large continues to refuse to promote the
next wave of stars the way.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
That.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
They should oh they have been Stuck on the lebron
steph kdi era for. Twenty years? Now god, Forbid, YOU
mentioned hey sga BACK. To back mvp that team statistically
has been the best team in the league now for
about two and a. Half three seasons maybe we should
(26:23):
make them, the marquee matchup or, since it is we're
Gonna Sellbrate The new york, knicks's ring night the GREATEST team,
in anba History. The playoff knicks maybe we should have
a finals rematch and put the, Next Big thing Victor
Wembnyama in new york to take On To The. New york, Knicks,
but no Instead My guy adam silver Latches On to lebron,
(26:47):
james once again knowing full well that for all the,
pomp and circumstance for all The Celebration, regarding lebron james
his teams have not really been in the mix at
all for the. Last five years and.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
It's not like he.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Hasn't Had, talent anthony. Davis Of course luka doncis most
recently won A. Championship with, anthony he did but after
that it's been out in the first round, couple of
times missed the playoffs a, couple of times got swept
out of the playoffs. Couple of times and yet they
continue to promote him and to, A Lesser extent Stephen
Curry and kevin durant and make them the faces of
(27:26):
the league rather than Getting with the times having a
forward thinking mindset and putting out the next, Wave of Stars,
Victor wembin yama Victor, S She. A anthony edwards why
On Earth has adam silver and the powers that be
(27:48):
decided that they would rather give us the hypothetical supposed
rivalry match Up here Between Philadelphia and new york when
those two teams have only been in the playoffs twice.
In fifty years what rivalry is there to Promote outside
(28:08):
Of Come see lebron james against. The defending champions make, it,
MAKE sense.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Well i will the reason that they're still riding the
cotails of these great players, that you Mentioned Most, notably
lebron james is because that's what the peep pole. Want
to see the fans want To See that adam silver
(28:34):
is aware, of the metrics, aware of viewership aware of
all of the ratings for. Everybody they understand you, Got
To remember Adam silver begged lebron to make a decision
so they can. Make the schedule this is the Reason
why if Lebron Is, in golden State Then it's golden
State versus The Lakers.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
On.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Opening Night right if lebron goes to you, know wherever
else it's that team because people he understands people still
revere and love Or Hate. Watch lebron james now Him,
going to philadelphia which is a Stone's Throw, from new
york which he's probably, gonna, live there right is? What
(29:19):
they said that that's that in itself IS. Must see
tv we want. To see that we Want to See,
brunson and lebron uh and And and And Cat and
jalen brown and embiid like we want. To see that
so he's giving the fans and the people what they. Want,
to see now you, may be irked and you, may
(29:41):
be like it's time For. The young bucks but out
of all of those players, That You, Mentioned anthony Edwards,
shay and wimby? Who's box office WHO'S? Must? See Tv,
Wemby wimby right wimby, They the Ratings that's. What i'm
saying wenby is one of the only ones out. Of
those three? So who else what other young star? Is
(30:03):
box office that's the Problem THEY went and i mean
for years They've Been, LIKE anthony, Davis I, Mean anthony
edwards you're going to be the face. OF the league i. Don't, want,
IT oh okay i. Don't want it there ain't got
nothing to, do. With me Folks i'm just. I'm just,
bawling oh okay well who who else out Of these
(30:23):
young The problem with shay is the way his style
of play kind of turned a lot. Of people off
this this this playoff right. Like it was it kind
of it got gross all. Of a sudden i'm one.
OF those people, i was like, you're too good too
skilled to throw your body on the. Floor like that
(30:46):
he just when you're going when when you're, drawing a
foul you should also try to. Make the shot that's.
The whole thing like you don't pump fake and then
cannon ball your your body into them facing the opposite
direction like, you're gonna shoot but you don't. Actually shoot
it it's just a style of in a brand of
(31:07):
basketball that a lot of people don't. Want to see
so out of those, three young, stars you Say you Know, Victor,
woman yama yes and they're playing later, on, that night
Right but.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
For marque Games but the.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Marquee game Is obviously the knicks who've won the championship
going against their rival Now in The. East in philadelphia
with The Addition of Jalen Brown. And lebron james that
to ME. Is mussy tv and that's. Why it's there
it's not so much we're gonna keep pandering to, these
Older Stars but steph curry, still, box office right and.
(31:43):
Until they're not this is what the league or the
networks are. Going to do and if you're, running the business.
You do that you're not gonna give people a bunch
of stuff that they don't want to.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
See you HERE but the nfl doesn't have this problem. Because,
they Will hey, pay manning's out got a new. Guy
coming in, but you Know, dut wet gus that's.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
A good point You? Know why WHY because the nba is.
A player's league it's, built on. Players the shields so
don't they have to build the? Players, The, end, no
no no the players. Come with it They. Didn't BUILD
lebron when kd came, into the LEAGUE. He was kd are? You,
kidding me.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Well he was not marketed the way that.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
He, is now no because he became a seven, foot,
Sharp Shooter right steph curry became the greatest shooter. Of all,
time he did and.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
They did a great job Of Marketing.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
In lebron james became What They thought lebron james was
gonna be and he.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Became better THAT, in the nfl it's.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Not, Like That say kwan barkley had one of the
greatest years any player has ever had. Two, years ago
yeah he got The, cover of madden he got. All
these things but we're just talking. About THE team the
nfl is. Built AROUND team the nba is built on
individuals their individual talent because you can take over a.
(33:01):
Game by YOURSELF. In the nba you can't take over a. Game,
By Yourself well. Sakwon, barkley did yeah but there was
five guys In Front of saquon barkley that helped him take.
Over that game and. That's the difference basketball is an,
ultimate Team game, right but football in order to be
(33:23):
that guy and, be that standout you need all ten
other players on either side of the ball to be
great for you.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
To, Be great okay i'm gonna ask you this One question.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
And i'll get.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
It one answer what was the most watched regular season
GAME in the nba? Season last?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Year, regular season, Yep, uh birds okay see. That, Is
correct absolutely.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
So why on earth are neither of those Teams in?
The marquee matchup because you're telling me it's a numbers
game and the audience is gonna dictate what you. Want to,
watch they told, you know why we want to watch,
high level, basket you know and that seven foot twelve
dude Right There in san. Antonio is boxing you?
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Know why why because there. Was resolution there there. Was
resolution there the reason it was much the most watched
game last year is because do YOU remember how okayc
started the season that, people were like no one can
beat them until They played the spurs and they beat,
them a lot and then They played, the spurs again they,
(34:24):
beat them again and then They played, the spurs again
and so now now, people, were, like oh oh this
is this is something it, Now GUESS what if Okayc,
beats the spurs it's not the Most watched tam it's
not the. Most watched game it's not if They, beat
the spurs if they, blow them out if they came
and they beat them and they the first two times,
(34:46):
they beat them We're not even they're. Just beating everybody
but this was the one team that they did not
have an answer for. In that story as someone who's
a writer and can, create a narrative, create a story
that's A story that, i can sell and that's THE
story THAT i can i have people opt. In to
watching that's the great. Thing about sport, it's it's competition
(35:11):
but there's a story. Behind the competition we want To
See if lebron james at fifty can, GO out here i,
just you know at forty one can go out here
and play up against the defending champions with. His new
team and when, that's a story that's something you want to.
(35:31):
Sign up for you don't want to sign UP For
the okc spurs matchup that you already saw the, outcome
of that not only, in the series but during. The
regular season that's not a story you would, automatically Be
like the spurs gonna beat them because they've been beating them.
All last year? Where's the draw where?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Is?
Speaker 5 (35:50):
The draw not now You get. WHAT i'm saying i
saw it click. IN your mind i. Saw it click, he,
was like damn he. Got a point, oh my. GOODNESS
he's right i would.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
To go.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
DOWN oh shucks i didn't even think about. That like
that but that's that's, what. It's about man it's about
the story is what, brings the viewers and if it's not.
A compelling Story okac and spurs. Are, not compelling okay it,
was last year but. They Put that the spurs put.
That to bed so now what's? The news? STORY all.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
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nfl insider yeah in the middle of his, Training Camp,
(36:44):
tour adam?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Kaplan? What's, up adam.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
Applause guys are going to. Talk to, You, thank you.
Hey thank you.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
It's. My guy man, How?
Speaker 7 (36:51):
You doing adham it's, been a while even in, a, Long,
TIME man, MAN i, know i, know but yeah. Lots
going on i'm just started my tour of seeing three
teams at all see two Tomorrow and then i'll get
rolling next.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Week big time well we'll definitely.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Get INTO that but i was told during the update
in our ear that You loved what Ephram Said about
kyler murray and, even was like of course. He did
that i'm good at this. Kind of stuff so what
exactly did you Love about? What Kyler situation minute.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
First of all ephrom played in the scheme that they Were,
on in Minnesota Played, in west coast so he knows
that the quarterbacks got to. Play on time and it's
just interesting that McCarthy was drafted to play in the
system and Struggle Processing and kyler murray's never been a
quarterback who's. Played on, time but yeah clearly won. The
STARTING job as i was told a, couple hours ago.
(37:36):
It was this they didn't want to. Delay the inevitable
They knew that, kyler had it and you know that's
why they. Did it, now, But yeah again ephrom Knows
he's watched matt shob and other quarterbacks playing the scheme and.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Have, Ultimate success YEAH and what i, was, saying is
look we understand what the quarterback class next year is going.
To look like. In the, draft oh yeah everyone's Hoping
yet right like it's there's some names there that will
be available that you, Can, really say okay look we're
going to we're going to draft this guy and we're
(38:11):
going to bet the next ten. Years, ON him obviously
jj McCarthy is. Not that guy it's. Not THAT guy
and i want to get off OF that and i
want to get onto out of all the places you've, been,
so far right you've been six five or six training.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
Camp so, FAR for tomorrow i. Seen, five teams okay.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
So out of the, four you've seen who is who's impressed.
YOU the most i gotta Tell. You the giants. First
Of All seeing john Harball all the giants practice field was.
Bizarre to me and THEN of course I was at
baltimore today and. He, wasn't, there well yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:46):
Which is odd you're going, back to back but he's
got things humming and let me let me. Give it
in let me set. The Scene Right so john harble
is an all. Special teams guy he was a longtime
special teams Coach for the eagles before he became the
head Coach. Of the ravens so they have a warm
up here which, is pretty long and they did forty.
Five minutes on they were, using two fields but one
(39:07):
of them was, half a field just doing special teams
work like. That's unheard of but that's, the discipline guys
and you from you know, as a player when somebody
comes in that's new, to the club they got to
set the example and they're just it's the, lot longest practice,
BY the way i was talking to Someone with. The
ravens today he does things specifically to. Test the players
(39:31):
what does it one thirty, middle of afternoon. Ninety, degree
weather okay could have done it at seventy am to help.
The players out he. Didn't do that he wants to
set the toughness and there's a tremendous discipline just, being
around him. Very businesslike club so you asked me right,
off the bat they've got. It going on there's, a
tremendous discipline. Which they needed there was total chaos Last
(39:53):
Season with brian dable in, his last year and then they.
Got It home and i'll. Tell you what they've added
a ton of. TALENT on offense i was very IMPRESSED
with what i saw from, their OFFENSIVE talent.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
AND i said i think IT was yesterday i was
saying that what we do Know about the giants is
they need an adult. In the room right when you
when You Look at jackson dart and You, look at
scatable they need an adult. In The room and hardball
is That guy, like if not this thing was about
to go off the. Rails, for real, seriously go, AHEAD right.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Yeah i mean you're gonna need to be some serious
stuff because those two guys they might not make it through,
half a season but the, way they play one dude's
doing backflips, on the stage the other guys throwing his
head into the three. Hundre pound, LINEMAN but yeah i
know You Visited the baltimore ravens as well during the
training camps.
Speaker 7 (40:35):
They, got actually yeah they got a new coach in.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Place As well lamar jackson has been arguably the best
QUARTERBACK in the nfl the last three. Or four seasons
get it down your. Last because' injury can we expect
a bounce back from him with, this new regime or
is it going to be? An, adjustment period.
Speaker 7 (40:50):
Well if jesse mentor, the head coach they're gonna they're gonna.
Run the ball this is You Know with derrick henry
that it's gonna. Start with HIM but what i, find
interesting is you know they they're gonna change it up
a little bit in. Terms, of philosophy uh this is
hard to believe in, the first time probably out in
over A decade that. I saw this but they don't
(41:12):
have A fullback Like patrick riccard now who was one
of the best FULLBACKS. Of the nfl one with Hardball
to The Giants, and declan doyle who's the youngest offensive
Coordinator Of The. National football league he Came. Over from
chicago he was the he was a play he was
not The play car Last Year, with ben johnson he
was called, the offensive coordinator but he even called the place.
(41:34):
The first time at, thirty years old. He's calling plays
but his Roots Are. With sean payton he Coached, with
the saints and He was on shawn's staff early On.
With the broncos so it's. Gonna, look different yes they're gonna.
Run the ball it's gonna revolve around play action and.
The run game but they're gonna bring a lot. OF
different concepts i really look forward To seeing. What baltimore
(41:56):
does it's. Gonna look, different BUT unfortunately and i. SAW
it happened i was able to see that. The Injury
happen nate wiggins their, their top corner the left corner.
Back number two. He went up it was, a deep,
route left corner uh in the end zone and he
Went Up, with jacoby lane their third round receiver OUT.
Of usc is that really, really looks good, by the
(42:18):
way really having. A Great camp uh wiggins riving in
paid holding his left knee and leg. It look bad,
he's HAVING testing as, i understand it and they're hoping.
For the best but if he's out for a long time,
or the season they're in trouble because they're they they're
they're they're backups OTHER Than the tg champa. Are all
journeymen chaudobi a woozy will be who will Step in
(42:42):
for wiggins. At least temporarily Was there A many war
many a warrior formerly the lines was?
Speaker 5 (42:49):
A draft?
Speaker 7 (42:49):
Pick Is there so i'm hoping that this is not a,
long term injury.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
But we'll see let's Talk. About the eagles you visited them.
This TRAINING, CAMP uh i i guess this is The.
NEW look EAGLES i Guess I think jalen hurts is
still on the. Hot seat possibly is this what you saw?
In training camp are there going back to two years
(43:13):
ago where they were, a Heavy Run heavy saquon barkley
team or are they trying to Kind Of usher jalen
hurts into more, of a dynamic, past the ball down
the field. Type of, Quarterback all right.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
So what's interesting is what you brought up was their
offense in, twenty twenty two the first Year the aj.
Brown was there they made a decision that they were
going to throw the ball deep that the league had
no idea. What to Expect hurts and, brown were unbelievable
and then it. Kind of cratered The Offensive coordinator brian
johnson got Caught in Between Hurts and nick sirianni where
(43:49):
they were not having a great relationship. With twenty three,
they met defenses, everything was Great Won a, super bowl
though as, You talked about barkley signs there has the
BEST season in nfl history from the. Getting to. End
it's incredible and then last season he from their offensive
line just got old real. Quick beat Up They uh
(44:10):
cam jurgen's had, surgery The center THEN dickerson had i
think his. Fifth knee surgery he's. Had Back, problems lane
johnson who's Probably gonna Be, hall of famer, the right
tackle he wound up getting, hurt last season He Had the.
List frank rupture He's fine Now i'll.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Be he.
Speaker 7 (44:28):
Left he's back he left the team temporarily to tend.
To personal business but the thing Is, he from yeah
they're definitely getting back. To the run it starts. With
a run As long as. Barkley's is There it's gonna they're.
Gonna run it but they're now they're going to the
First Time in nick. Sirianni six years They're Going to
west Coast Scheme and sean mannion come he just retired.
(44:48):
Three years ago now. He's calling plays. It looks different
it's Really odd watching hurts trying to get the ball
Out quickly like. I'm seeing Now You. Mentioned jackson dart
They're Going To. West coast darts it's not real. Comfortable with,
it you know, he's a playmaker. Real athletic scrambler he'll
make a lot of plays and he. Gives up play he,
(45:08):
Makes bad decisions. So it's good you gotta be. Patient
giant fans but they got a. Lot of talent but
Getting back to philly to. Finish them off they have
enough there from their skill set at the receiver in
tight end to. Get This done but hertz has just
got to play. Consistently on time he's never done that
since he was drafted.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
IN twenty twenty i guess it's essentially a make a
break here for him right.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
In a way because he's stud to. For an extention, you're, absolutely.
Right yep, yeap in fact there's not a lot of
guaranteed money. Next year's contract he's going to won a
new deal if. He plays well, AND you're, RIGHT i,
THINK i mean i can't. Argue with you he's got
to play well this season for him. To extend It.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
His, Name's Adam Kaplan, FOX sports Radio. Nffol insider adam
enjoy the rest of the training, camp, to him man
we'll talk.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
To you. Soon appreciating, cap thanks guys
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