August 13, 2026 • 41 mins
Robert Guerra and Monse Bolanos filling in for Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington break down the recent statements by Jayden Daniels trying his best to stand on business. The idea of starting Deshaun Watson makes zero sense. NBA keeps telling us they don't think Jaylen Brown is a star. Plus, Fantasy Life senior analyst - Kendall Valenzuela joins the show!
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Maybe maybe we'll give you one of the jerseys that
I just had retired. We'll talk about that later. Oh god,
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Big news going on the world of sports. Preseason football
kicking off here in a minute n NBA schedule, We're
gonna start with this. This is the dumbest and the
greatest story that I've seen all week. Pre mentioned it
(02:32):
at the update yesterday. We found out in the wee
overnight hours, that Jaden Daniels, quarterback of the Washington Commanders,
has sent a letter to LSU indicating that they could
no longer use his name, image, and likeness. They say
that part of it is that their contract with him
ran out after I think six months after he left
(02:54):
the school. But most importantly, they're upset, and he's upset
that the team decided to give away his number five
jersey to LSU sophomore cornerback DJ Pickett. And in fact,
we also found out later today or earlier today excuse me,
that his camp has even demanded that the Tigers return
(03:18):
his copy of his twenty twenty three Heisman Trophy. The
school has no intention to do so, Lane Kiffin saying,
I'm trying to mediate this whole thing, but so far
it's not going well. Your thoughts on Jane and Daniels
being King petty right now?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Oh, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
I honestly don't get it, and I get to some
people numbers matter, and this is one of those situations
where life is unfair sometimes.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Jade and Daniels, life is unfair.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
You went to LSU where a guy four years prior
went undefeated, won the Natty and the Heisman, and there
is an iconic photo of him smoking a cigar that
we're never gonna forget.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Never never.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
You're up against that, which is not fair to you.
I feel like Chut Holmgren at one point in his life,
was like, I'm going to go in an NBA and
I'm gonna be a unicorn and I'm gonna be so awesome,
and then Wemby comes along and is like, hole, my beer.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Life is unfair sometimes.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
So in this situation with Jaden Daniels, I honestly like
it doesn't to me.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
None of this makes him look good. None of it.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
The the losses that he had in his year, I
think they lost three games, they were all against frank teams.
He didn't participate in their bowl game after it was
all said and done. He also transferred there. I know
played two years at LSU, but it's LSU rob.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
G out of the SEC.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Like if you would have maybe stayed at Arizona State,
maybe you could have had your jersey retired. And this
leads me to my next point. Who benefited more. LSU
helped Jaden Daniels or Jaden Daniels helped LSU. LSU I
think helped Jayden Daniels get that Heisman Trophy. He would
(04:59):
not have gotten that had he not gone to LSU.
And it's just again, it's unfair. Life is unfair at times.
But because of all of all of that, it just
to me, I don't know why you would want this
type of chatter surrounding your name when you're getting ready
to go play in the NFL, when there's a lot
(05:19):
of pressure on you. People are wondering if your rookie
season was a fluke, and with what the Commanders did
last year injuries and all, so people.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Are wondering there's a lot of pressure on Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
I don't know why you would want this chatter surrounding
that and then to come out with your own statement
and then.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Say I respect LSU. I've been focused on training camp.
I hope this can be resolved privately, Pappy, it's not.
We're all talking about it.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
None of this is being resolved privately in any way,
shape or form.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And so I just I don't know where this came from.
It's just it's a it's a number. I get it.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
Jadeen Daniels will always go down as the LSU Heisman
Trophy winner of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
No one's ever gonna take that away from you.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
But now people are like, oh, do I have to
if I'm a if you're an LSU fan, do you
have to pick a side?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Because I feel like you're gonna pick Joe Burrow, Like, because.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
The description in the ESPN story brought up the comparison
of Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
We're not pulling this out of nowhere. This was in
the story.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
So it's like, are you forcing Tigers fans to have
to decide again? All they got to show you is
that iconic cigar photo.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Of Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
I just feel like he's I don't know what advice
he got, who he got it from, but it's not
good advice. Your name was awesome, you were always gonna
be an LSU great, not that you're not. But now
we're talking about this and you want your trophy, like
none of this is I don't get I don't like
any of it for him because Jadeen Daniels his character,
everybody likes him as a person.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
There's nothing you know what I'm saying, And so I
hate this for him because it is it is like,
who kaid you this advice? It's not good advice?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Mom, Mom? It probably was his mom.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
Mom.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, Monci, that opinion was so lefty. Can't be right,
all right? Usually you're so right you can turn left
for flip your.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I can't wait for you to tell me how I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
There is something to be said about standing on business,
and I have no issue with anybody. You just mentioned
that you felt you had to ask everybody the studio
if they wanted Starbucks, and I said, yeah, but because
if Alex didn't get offered, he would have got his
own later, And was said, hey, don't worry. I got
my own and would have been petty about it. I
have no issue with being petty. Petty is being one
(07:23):
thousand petty, and he is well within his rights to
do so, because not everything is for sale nowadays. There's
something to be said about you know what. I don't
think I'm gonna let you wear that jersey because there's
only been two other Heisman winners in LSU football history.
You mentioned Joe Burrow the greatest season ever, and this
other guy, Billy Cannon from the nineteen fifty nine season.
(07:46):
They retired his jersey the year after he won it.
The year was nineteen sixty. Okay, so there's only been three.
Two of those jerseys have never been given out. This
other one was given out. And why was it given
out Because they decided the only way they were gonna
get this five star cornerback named DJ Pickett was if
(08:08):
they gave him number five. Because they could not sell
their football program. They could not sell national championship aspirations
under Brian Kelly. They could not sell the idea that
you could create your own legacy or even where number
seven like all the great defensive backs have worn at LSU.
Instead dj Pickett and his camp, his camp being his dad,
(08:29):
said themselves to the Advocate, never heard of them, but
he said if they would have been told us during
the recruiting process that they said, hey, number five is
not being issue. We can't promise number five. We'll talk
to Jaden and see what he has to say if
he gives his blessing he does. If he does and
he doesn't, then we would have moved forward. So you're
telling me that a seventeen eighteen year old high school
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kid has so much gravita over LSU football that he
can tell you whatever millions you're offering me in nil,
whatever deals you're gonna willing to give me, unless I
get number five, I am not coming to your football program.
Then I don't want you in my football program. Because
LSU is supposed to be one of the powerhouses. That's
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what they say. That's the reason that they said that
Lane Kiffin had to go from Ole Miss to LSU
because this is a big step in the world of
college football, and so for Jade and Daniels to be
now the only Heisman winner in their program's history to
have his jersey given out to another player, in this case,
a sophomore who played one season. I have no issue
(09:35):
with him being upset about it. And if you're gonna
treat me differently than you treated your other Heisman players,
then yes, give me my trophy back to because it
obviously doesn't mean as much to you as it does
to me.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Are you done?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I'm crashing You've crashed it, Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I thought you were making a U turn and fixing that.
I think you just crashed it, right, Okay, So LSU,
it's about LSU.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yes, that's ls You.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Can do whatever they want. Is it's about LSU. It
is not about Jayden Daniels. That's the big picture here.
You just said it, And if LSU wants to give
a number out, it is them. They're damn right to
the first guy you mentioned with the Heisman won a Natty, right,
Billy Cannon won a Natty.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Won two most probably if he did, he won, Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Jayden Daniels did not.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
So that there's the first difference when it comes to
I'm just but you're you're using those two his comparisons
as to why it should be the same, but they're not.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But it has been the same.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, no, no, no, no. The three Heisman winners.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
One of them did not win a Natty, so already
it's not exactly the same. Now, I can't take credit
for this information, but Sleeper College Football on Twitter x
posted the last ten Heisman winners jersey's numbers after they left.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
What happened.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yes, so in twenty.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Twenty five, Nana Mendoza his number war in the next
year twenty twenty four, Travis Hunter retired number twenty three.
Twenty twenty twenty three, Jayden Daniels, the one number is
gonna be worn on defense. Caleb Williams retired number. Bryce
Young the number was one two years after DeVante Smith
worn the next year, Joe Burrow not worn, sense Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Carler Murray worn.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
The next year, Baker Mayfield worn four years after Lamar
Jackson worn the next year. This is not new, This
isn't a dig at Jayden Daniels. This is just the
bigger picture of things, and it's about LSU in the future.
If it was about the past, then LSU.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Would just wrap up the tree set their president. Those
other schools you mentioned USC their president is if you
win the highs, when we retire your jersey.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Okay, but they didn't retire Joe Burrows, but they haven't
given it out.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That's right, but it's not retired.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
They're gonna give me that.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
For none of Venezuela's number was not retired.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
It was just never given out until recently when he
was put in the Ring of Honor as a as
a veteran player. But for Nane of Valanzuela's number was
not up in the rafters even though it was never
given out, it was clearly not retired.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
It was just not given out.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Do you think they're ever gonna give out Joe Burrows
number that was?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You probably not, But he what undefeated? When undefeated, they.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Both won Heisman's I understand that, but there is still
a difference between an A plus and an.
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I wish you were sitting down for this conversation. Standing
standing makes it uncomfortable.
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Taller than you and she's standing, I don't know.
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I'm actually not taller than him, even though but he was.
He didn't know I stood.
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I didn't he didn't know.
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You stand on business.
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I stand on business and I stand when I'm doing
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Speaker 4 (13:43):
Because rumor has it, a time was had at ment
and a night last night in Magic City.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
What a place to have a oh my gosh, oh god, please,
oh girl.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
We're gonna talk about that at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
It's the culture you gotta learn.
Speaker 10 (14:00):
Yes, Au, listen, I would have been there. I would
have been there, Okay, Rob, you and I'll go. I
will go to Magic City, all right. I will bring
all the singles.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I will do it.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Singles you mean money or women both? Okay?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well, speaking of that real quick tangent, we talked about
this yesterday on the ones Gotta Go singing right Alex
with with Erom Salam One's Gotta Go strip club features right.
So it's the cover charge to get in, Okay, it's
the back row seating the guys who are not actually
paying anywhere. They just back there watching the kitchen, the
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champagne room, which is of course beyond the VIP. It
goes like another another level. Sure, and the last one
was making it rain.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
One's gotta go.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yes, it's gotta be the dudes in the back not
really perverted.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, it's got to be the dudes in the back.
At least they're in the back. I you know, not
that I've been so many strip clubs, but I have been.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
There's times where I see the guys sitting in the
very front road not giving money.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And that's terrible, that's awful.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Oh yeah, don't claim that you making work for two
dollars twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's got to be that. There's no way you're getting
rid of the food.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You just build a tree and then you pull it back.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, don't get rid of the food, don't get rid
of the champagne.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
You're just rolling like a stack of pennies for dollars.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
I would have kick if I'm security, you would have
been out that second, that second.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
No, you know what's funny is when you go to
a I've been there like in a long time, right,
But when you go and there's no seats in like
the not the back room, but like you know, the
middle area, sure, and you're like, your only seats are
at the stage, Like, I don't want to be tipping
the entire I didn't come here to do that, right now,
so you get a seat at the stage, but you
turn your chair to the side like that, like that'll help,
and it doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
To tip Yeah, of course, yeah, get out of my face.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
There's nowhere else to sit.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Figure it out to bring money. I don't know. If
gotta here, gotta here? You want to see this, where's
the cash now?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
You're just waiting for the two for one three for
one special. That's all pause, no resume that we're not
there paying full prices. We're there to make deals, just
like Rob Parker. That's why it's ment and a night,
because well.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
You should not be making deals on a struck club.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Rob Parker had his night where he had like fifty
five people pay for admission, you know who didn't have
to pay for admissions.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Okay, well that's a little bit different because.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
He's on purpose he sold tickets so that he wouldn't
have to pay.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
That's well, that's Rob Parker.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
That is Rob Parker. Rob Parker in a nutshell. And
there was a lot that happened last night. We get
to that at the bottom of the hour. There was
something that happened in the NFL, or maybe didn't happen today,
but it happened and we found out about it today.
Appearing on the Impulsive podcast, Rams Wide receiver Pookinakua admitted
(16:45):
that he collided with a glass window pane at Michael
rubens All White party earlier this summer, and he walked
into it so hard that it left blood streaming down
his face. Okay, let's go back in the hot tub
time machine. In the last year alone, here are the
things that have happened to Puknacua.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
The whole list, because that's lo it is long.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Most recently, of course, walking to a glass window. One
thing he did was he went on his live stream
and said that NFL referees rig or botch games on
purpose just so they can get shown on television. In December,
he went on a life steam with Adan Ross and
he was performing an anti Semitic hand gesture that he
(17:26):
wanted to use as a touchdown celebration. He also, during
the Super Bowl got drunk, admittedly threw out a tweet
taking shots at Sam Darnold, who had just beat him
in the NFC Championship game. And then, of course, the
one everyone knows about allegedly said f all the Jews
(17:47):
and bit a woman on her shoulders so hard at
left teeth marks. We saw the pictures and allegedly bit
a second woman's thumb. She of course, filed a civil lawsuit.
Pokunakua is currently leaking for a new contract. He's on
his last year of his rookie you, yep, if you
were less need and Sean Gvay and the powers that
be with the Ramley, how are you handling this situation?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
Ooof this is tough because we've seen what pukin Akua
can do. Is it pokin Akua? Is it Matthew Stafford?
Is it a mixture of both? I don't know, but
Pooka and Akua has given us some amazing catches and
plays in a very short amount of time. To say
that he is not talented would be a lie. But
(18:28):
with talent comes a lot of responsibility. With money, I
better trust you. I better trust you that you are
going to be able to handle the money, the fame,
and be available to play on the field. So with
pokin A coo, if I'm the Rams, I don't even
know if this is possible because he's on I don't
know what Pookah's gonna do with his people But if
(18:48):
I'm the Rams and let's hypothetically say they win the
Super Bowl right after this, I'm trading Pukanakua.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I am sending him on his merry way.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
You franchised tag him so you can trade.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
It, right like I I don't. I am not planning
to keep Pukuinakua long term. There is no reason for
me too, because he is he has not proven that
he can handle the spotlight, the money. Imagine how he's
gonna be if he does get a mega deal. If
this is how he's handling things now, I don't want
to be there when it's a lot more money in
(19:18):
his pocket. And it sucks because it's like he's so talented.
You see it, you see it every day, every game.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
But to me, it's not worth it. It's a headache.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
And there's so much that goes when it comes to football.
You can be not only are you are.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
You a problem to yourself? You can become a problem
in the locker room. Like, there's so much to it.
So for me, there's there's.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
No way I am giving him the money that maybe
he deserves based on talent. Yep, I'm not doing it,
even though he might deserve it I'm not doing.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Right because he's based on production. Yeah, seven hundred yards,
eleven total touchdowns, Like, it should not be a question.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
It should not be.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
He's worth top of the receiver, which is like forty
forty five is somewhere in there. He's the best offensive
player on the team. With apologies to Matthew Stafford, he's
only twenty four. Theoretically, all of his best football is
aheads ahead of him. But when you go down the
list of things that he's done, again, none of these
things are super egregious, except for maybe the biting the woman.
(20:15):
I don't think any of these are crimes, right, They're
just dumb instances, right.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Sorry, I thought I was gonna sneeze it out.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Okay, Hey when that happens, yeah, it's gonna come out
a door. So like, again, all these things are small, right,
relatively in the ground scheme of thing we have people.
I think Tyreek Hill punched a pregnant woman in the stomach, right, Like,
there are much more great egregious things that players have
done in the NFL or getting into the NFL. But
when you add all these things up together, it paints
(20:44):
a picture of a guy who just doesn't get it right.
He may not be a criminal, he may not be
a bad person, but he doesn't get it. And I
can't trust that if I give you forty million dollars
a season, that you're suddenly gonna turn it around, because
even something as stupid as walking into a glass window.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Pane, have you done that?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I don't believe you.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Okay, So well, I'm glad you brought that up because
obviously I wasn't there. I don't think I'm ever gonna
get invited to the White Party.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Can we manifest it? Let's manifest it.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
I don't think we're going to be there. Aaron Rodgers
called it a weird party.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Okay, Well, Aaron Rodgers is weird.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Aaron Rodgers is weird. No stuff, right?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, you cocktail?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Okay? So he, you know, called it a weird party.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Right.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
And so the people I know who have walked into
windows and glasses and sliding doors and things of that
nature are little kids who are too excited they run
in stuff, or you're just drunk, right, And that's fine.
So you mean to tell me that Pukua Nakua got
so drunk at the White Party of all places, which
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is like the whusu of all these celebrities and power
brokers all across sports and entertainment. You got so drunk
that you couldn't see the glass in front of you,
and you walked into it. It's such a speed that
you cause the blood to flow them from your face
at some point.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, he was looking for his teammate DeVante Adams. Yeah,
that's that's what the wrong is. Uh, you know, I'm
with you.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
You know, you said it perfectly, like I didn't even
think about where this happened. Like with all of the
who's who surrounding you were this you are making an
impression on people at your level, like.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You could say, and higher than you.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, you you know, he could say exactly.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
He could say to us, I don't care about these
two latinos and what they say about me, but those
people at that party, like you should care of how
you look around them.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Honestly, didn't even think about that. Yeah, he doesn't get it.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
He doesn't realize that the Rams, if I have the
money for the Rams, he's an investment, and it is
an investment that is not worth the risk. Right now,
There's no way, there's no way I'm investing in Pukuinakua,
No way.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
No one thousand and then here's the other thing, because
you mentioned like the idea of just getting rid of him.
I know it sounds shocking of a lot of people,
and you'd say, hey, we have to refranchise him. We
get like two first round picks for it or whatever.
What people don't understand about the Rams specifically, this is
not just a Puka thing. This is about the Rams
as a franchise is that they are better at identifying
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late round talent than almost anyone in football. Right. Poka
Nakoupah was a fifth round pick, Kyvier Williams a fifth
round pick. Kobe Turners the third round pick Byrie Young
is the third round pick. Quentin Lake was a sixth
round pick. So they have shown, even with Puka himself,
that we can find guys to do this. Cooper Cup
was a late round pick and they turned all of
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those guys into highly productive players because they find guys
who fit the system, who do what they want them
to do, and they can be very successful at it.
And Pookuin Nakoua, as good as he is as a
football player, I don't know if he's worth the headache
that's going to come along with it.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I think about that all the time.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
I mean I even thought about it because again, you
listed off multiple things that Pukkua has done in his
short career, and I wonder.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
This is all just in a year.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
That's what I'm saying, Like it's it's bizarre.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
I wonder sometimes if pukain Akua was not in La Ram,
if he was drafted in a smaller market with things
have gone differently for him because there's so much here
in La There's so much attention, there's so much to do.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I don't think he's friends with Aiden Ross if he's
not on the.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Rams exactly exactly, like how much? But is this just
something that was gonna happen no matter what. I don't know,
but I think about that because being.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
In LA is different.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
It is different, even though the Rams are not necessarily
a franchise team like you know, a historic franchise team
like the Cowboys or the Packers, and it's not like that,
but it's still the La Lights, you know, And so
I wonder, but it's been very, very disappointing because there's
just so many in a year of two years of
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been playing the highlight reel.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Is so gray, so good, like.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
It's so good and at the same time, the fact
that you and I are discussing this, that's so sad.
But I am not invested you. You are a bad
investment long term.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I could not agree with. See now you're so right,
you can turn left. Ah, I look at this before.
Your pain was so left it couldn't be right.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I don't know you crash the car whatever.
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something I think is very important in the culture of brotherhood,
of romances and maybe something that MONSI might have a
different perspective on as a lady with a man who
might have romances. So Robgi just finished his last Vegas
euphooric weekend with his boys. That wasn't as adventurous as
you thought it might be now that you guys are older,
(26:15):
was it.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
We're totally different now than it used to be back
in there.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Well, you went to Vegas, I did, went with your boys,
made some money on craps, had your own craps table.
You know Robbie Pocket watching It's his own craps table.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Crazy.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
But robb Gi had this comedy show he went to
over the Little State, had with his brother's there and
his brother had a little involvement with another guy there
that was buying some snacks and et cetera for the setup.
So Robgi tell us exactly how it happened. And then
the question I want to follow up with it is
is this okay for men to do this to maybe
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buy other men's stuff, but set it up first, Robberie.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
So we're in line for the bar at the comedy
show to see Sebastian Meniscalco. Okay, and a guy behind
us notices that he and my brother the exact same watch,
and once he saw that, you would have thought they
were best friends. Give him a big old dap, hugs him,
says he wants to get our phone numbers. We should
all hang out together. And he say, hey, you know what,
buy these guys some drinks. And I'm like, oh, you know,
(27:12):
buy a drinking No, no, buy them too by him, matter
of fact, get him two popcorns, two to go. So
this guy, who's probably in his fifties bought me and
my brother both big old trays of drinks and popcorn.
So is it like a man card violation to allow
another grown man who you don't know to buy you drinks?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I don't understand the problem here. Really, boys are such bros.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
The minute you find something in common or something as
the watch, you guys just gravitate towards each other.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Bros before hose is a real thing.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Every time I watch The Bachelorette, all of the bros
in the house.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
That are dating the same girl, are encouraging each other
to have a grip date. You got this. You're a
better man than me. Please take my girl out and
show her. How would? I don't mean treats a lady. I'm
just brie. Am I wrong? But Bros, this is to me.
I don't think this breaks bro code at all. I
feel like this is exactly what bro code is.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
If you find something like I feel like guys when
they have and they see another guy that they have.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Something in common with, it's like, oh my god, that's incredible.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
To drink much less too.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Well, maybe that says that you're just cheap more than anything.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I was gonna say, I'm not buying a random dude
and his buddy or he's my brother. Four drinks that
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Okay, fine, But if that dude has a ton of
money and it doesn't affect them, he just wanted to
do a nice thing.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
This is just a nice genture. It's just sure they
had the same watch. He got excited. Maybe he thought
he was kind of cute too, maybe just a little.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
His wife came later, he didn't seem as interested. I'll
tell you that. That's well, that's a little.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
He might swing both ways.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Didn't you say too that his wife came with two
girlfriends too, and he was just like, le.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Me low with my l a. Guys, right now you are.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Touching on something that makes sense because it's like his guys.
If I find out like, oh, rob g, you like jeans,
I like jeans? Right, did we just become best friends,
it's step brother, it's literally instead they hate each other
and then found out like, all right, robb gi name
of dinosaur. You'd be right now, velociraptrap. Now you guys
are best friend.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
So that's a good point, like I've never thought of it.
If Robby I met you, let's say, at Magic City,
and there was you know, somebody hanging a jersey and
somebody's hanging it just like retiring sa there, and.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
You also tipped cinnamon a bunch, I'd be like, we're
best friends.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
We're both tipping cinning and we must have a lot
in comment.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
I'd let you buy me a drink. I'd be cool
with it.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
You'd be cool if I think you were thrown off
by how much by the generosity?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
And I sent a photo to Elijah Willzeven gets up
on the YouTube, but you can see that we each
got one of these trades with two big drinks and
two popcorns.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Yeah, because he could have been a little bit more
like he just seemed like like he really liked your brother,
because he could have just said to the bartender, Hey,
just put whatever they want on my tap.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Guys, nice meeting, you'll walked away.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
He was like, no, I want you guys to get
something ouff at the bar.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Sure, I'll let anybody buy me.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
I'm used to it though, you know, like she always
has people catering to rob g new feeling.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
What about you bring Yeah, I know you're letting a
woman buy you drinks at the Seal Beach.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
No, of course not, of course, I'm saying, of course, absolutely,
of course it's free.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Why not free?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
It's for Brey, It's for bri. Oh, there's the popcorn
and the three the odd couple coming up. Keep it lock.
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Speaker 3 (30:35):
Hello.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Hello, how's it going, guys? I think so much for
having me now.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Thank you for joining us on this Thursday.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
We're so excited to chat with you because fantasy football
season is just around the corner. We're all getting ready
for our drafts. So tell me, if I get the
number one draft pick, who should I take? Let's just
start there, because I really don't. I'm never I'm not
gonna get the number one, but just in case, just
in case, you get to.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
Sit back and you get to enjoy yourself, whatever you're
drinking on draft night. You literally just get to sit
back and say, I get Jamior Gibbs with the one
oh one overall pick. It's I think it's a toss up,
right if you've got the one on one or one
O two. I think it's so close between Jamior Gibbs
and Bjohn Robinson. But when you're looking at these two
running backs, I think the thing that you're going to
tend to lean to is Jamiir Gibbs is on the
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better offense. So you're gonna see these two running backs
like go kind of side by side. But if you've
got the one on one, sit back, enjoy it because
you get Jamier Gibbs, who's just going to be fantastic
this season with David Montgomery kind of out of the
picture with this, you know, high scoring offense, so you
get to enjoy it well.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Speaking of running backs, Sakwon Barkley this time last year
was in that conversation for one oh one, right, and
then either due to workload or the offensive line falling
off or both, you know, he slipped now this year,
depending on where you shop around for your rankings, he's
somewhere in like the number ten range RB ten.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Do you think he's gonna have a bounce back season?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Absolutely. I can't stress enough how bad Kevin Patula was
last season. That was the Eagles offensive coordinator. Eagles fans
right now are like, yes, applauding, like thank goodness, that
guy's out of there. But it wasn't like the thing
was that offense wasn't which was just run so poorly
by Petulo. So when you look at Saquon Barkley, I
think regression was inevitable from twenty twenty four because it
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was such an extreme But last season, like seventy one
yards per game, zero point four to four touchdowns per game.
It was just it wasn't a good look. He had
injuries too. He had the groin injury and knee injury
on some stingers as well. And so the offensive line too,
Like you had Landon Dickerson, you have Cam Jurgen's, you
had all these guys that are a little bit banged up.
And so to me, I think that I look at
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this offense this season and I get really excited. We
have so many new offensive coordinators in town. But Saquon
Barkley is just a prime talent. And you know when
you're looking at him, he's averaged a fifteen percent target
here in five helping you like Eagles seasons at West
in five seasons that we've seen for him. So I
look at him and he's such a smash pick at
the one two turn, that's usually where you're gonna see him.
(33:03):
And Yeah, if you're if you're in the back half
of these draft, you're usually looking at maybe getting two
running backs, like you could start your draft with James Cook,
Saquon Barkley, sometimes ash Jon Gent Sequon Barkley or Kenneth Walker,
and I think that's such a big move for how
healthy he's running backs have stayed. So yeah, I'm looking
at a huge bound back seat season from Saquon too.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Before we move on from running backs, let's chat real
quick about Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
You talked about being healthy and what he was like
the only one that was healthy last year for.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Yeah, so how do you see him still having as
successful of a season.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I mean, he has.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Mileage on him, but yeah, how how do you value
him in comparison even.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
To Saquon Yeah, I listen, I think you're gonna find
people this year that are split again. Last season, I
didn't draft Christian McCaffrey, and I would kind of bit
by it, right because you had him stay fully healthy.
I'm staying the course this year, Like if you're in
the middle of draft, that's usually where you're gonna find
yourself of having a pick between CMC, Jonathan Taylor A
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monros Saint Brown. So he was good, but it's because
he was good in the passing game as well, Like
rushing efficiency wasn't as good last season, but he plays
in a great scheme under like Kyle Shanahan. They've got
the number eighteen census offensive line for us at fantasylife
dot com. So I'm saying I'm staying away just because
of the workload from last season. But he's one of
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those guys where if you look at him and he's
technically a high risk, high reward player, like he can
help you win a league like he did last season.
He's this high end dual threat running back and he's
got this archetype that can just kind of sore and
fantasy like we've seen before. It's just the question of
how many touches did he get last season easy able
to kind of overcome the injury bug that we've seen
from him before. And I'm saying, no, I'd rather have
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a Monross Saint Brown, who is just such a solid
wide receiver and just gives you so many, so many
good seasons like wide receivers, three finishes every time that
he's come into the league. So it's just one of
those things where I'd rather go tried and truant receiver
than kind of risk it on shim again.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Well, Kendall, speaking of tried and shoe ride receiver, we
would have said that about Justin Jefferson up until last season,
right because the water. That situation was so terrible. Now
Kyler Murray's under center, of course he's going to be
better than JJ McCarthy, even his worst case, he is
gonna betteran J McCarthy. So how much better is he
going to be though, with Kyler Murray than he was
at JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Yeah, that's a question. Like I always I I play
the fun game sometimes when I'm on my shows and
I go if we could see a final stat line
for any player before the fantasy season starts, like who
would we want to pick? And there's always you know,
questions about maybe loaded wide receiver rooms like you know,
Jacksonville and who's going to come out on top. But
like my answer to that is justin Jefferson, because like
you said, it can't get much worse.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
I was.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
I was happy that they already just picked Kyler Murray
to be their QB one to start the season because
we didn't have to play this game where we had
to wait till, you know, days before the season started.
But like it was so bad and it was crazy
because he had a career high thirty point one percent
target share and last season, you know you saw career
most from him. It was one of these seasons where
he just looked around me and say, how can he
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only have you know, a little over a thousand yards,
two touchdowns and his catchery with sixty percent? So I
think he gets better Kyler Murray. People are going to
not like Kyler Murray just because of what he's done
for us in the past and what he hasn't done
for fantasy. But I think how much JJ McCarthy totally
knuked Jefferson's value. He's usually one of these players that
because of his talent and athleticism, he's quarterback proof, and
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it was like, I think JJ McCarthy was the outlier.
So to me, when I look at this Kevin O'Connell system,
he's been able to get really good seasons out of
like just good or fine quarterbacks, and Kyler Murray, I
think is a step above that. So I think I'm
upgrading justin Jefferson. I still think he's a low end
wide receiver. One. We've got the Vikings projected still for
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like two hundred and thirty passing yards per game, which
is like not great, but still something. I think that
Kyler Murray is gonna look downfield, He's gonna say where's
Justin Jefferson And he's going to get the ball to him.
So I still think he's a really good mid to
late round one pick for this season.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Sitting in to the odd couple with a Robert Gara,
I am.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
Montie Bilanos and we are talking to Kendall Valenzuela, Fantasy
Life Senior analyst.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Kendall, let's talk about tight ends, because I feel.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Like some people, some fantasy experts, are kind of pushing
out there if you don't go high on a tight
end in the first two three rounds, just wait until
the end and don't worry about it. Do you think
that's if you don't get someone good early on, just
forget about tight ends.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
I will say that's usually, you know, that's been my approach.
It's like a first or last mentality because I think
the tight end landscape and fantasy and everyone knows this.
When you play right, the difference between the tight end
eight and the tight end twelve usually in just total
fantasy points is separated by ten or twelve points. So
if you don't have these elite guys at the end
of the day, you might be looking around and just streaming.
(37:46):
And so to me, if I don't get and my
tight end one, and I think the consensus tight end
one overall this season is brock Pours. I think that
with a little bit of an upgraded offensive line, talk
about an offensive line that couldn't get worse. We're hoping
they can't get worse. But to me, it's Bruk.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
To me, it's Rock Bauers, it's Trey McBride. Even though
people we don't love the Arizona Cardinals, it's Jacoby Bristep,
but he's going to drop back to pass the ton
until maybe they go to their rookie. And so I think,
if you're not getting those two guys, including also Tyler Warren,
I would throw Tucker Kraft in there as well in
Colston Lovelin. To me, if I don't get those five guys,
I look around, and I say, there's so much value
(38:23):
on the board. If you're choosing between you know someone
like Kyle Pitts and maybe you know a Christian Watson
who could have a wide receiver one season and finally
stay healthy and give you those numbers. So I think,
to me, I do like that mentality. Now, if it's
a tight end premium league, we're having a totally different
conversation where you know these guys are going to fly
off the board. But yeah, first or last mentality for me,
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because I also think there's really solid you know, later
round picks. George Kittle is going far too late for
someone that looks like he's going to be able to
start the season healthy and in week one Mark Andrews. Yeah,
like Mark Andrews is someone like, yes he's old, but
Isaiah likely's now off the Ravens. And I think that
Lamar Jackson's actually going to drop back to past a
little bit more and we're going to see him run
a little bit less. So that means it's Jay Flowers
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Mark Andrews.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
So there are all.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
These guys that are later that aren't the sexiest names
in the world, Like you're not gonna be like, yes,
I got Mark Andrews. But at the end of the day,
with how little we get in fantasy point value between
you know, the number five tight end off the board
and then you know the guy that comes in twelve,
It's just something that you can consider if you don't
get those, Like I said, top five, I'm willing to
wait for some of these later around guys Kendall.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
When the bye weeks hit that Travis Kelsey five for
thirty seven is going to look fantastic. We're going to
be so excited about that, all right. Last one for me.
We know mobile quarterbacks are the cheak code in fantasy.
Josh Allen's wont me some leagus? Lamar Jackson want me
some leaves? Jaden Daniels we already get about at the
top of the show. He's gonna win some leads a
couple of years ago. So with that in mind, how
do you rank or how do you sort out guys
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like Matthew Stafford, Dak Prescott, Joe Burrow who would prefer
to just stand in the pocket is slinging around. How
do you navigate their true value when you're drafting.
Speaker 8 (39:57):
I think the only one that's like a true like
one of these pocket passers that doesn't give you much
on the ground is Joe Burrow. But I think he
actually just holds up with the I think he's in
the same tier as Jaden Daniels and Jalen Hurts and
you know, some of those guys because while he doesn't
bring you anything on the ground, you know that through
the air he's got the weapons. This is a high
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flying attack with Jamar Chason T. Higgins and so we've
seen it before where he's able to, you know, uphold
two Fantasy relevant wide receivers. And I look at him
and it's hard for a kind of a pocket passer
to make that tier. But I think Burrows like the
lone exception, like he is the one of the best
peer passes that I should say in the NFL. He's
got two great weapons, he's still in his prime. It's
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just the health factor, right, So Joe Burrow is one
of my most drafted quarterbacks. Could that come back to
kill me? Absolutely? It scares me every single day. But
when he came back from the turf though, right he
was averaging twenty point six points per game. He was
a QB eight over the final six games. So to me,
while he doesn't have the mobility of some of these
other guys, he's an elite passer and so that's why
I keep him on my radar other guys like Staff
(41:00):
It's fine. I would much rather though, if you're waiting
on quarterback and you're thinking to yourself, while I didn't
get you know, Caleb Williams, I wasn't able to get
the Jackson Darts of the world. I think Trevor Lawrence
is going too late, but he's kind of more of
a mobile quarterback. But I think people sleep too much
on Dak Prescott and Brock Purty. They Dak Prescott doesn't
bring much with his legs anymore. We kind of know that,
but he's one of the few quarterbacks who can deliver
(41:21):
massive passy yards. And this team, while they you know,
short up their defense a little bit more, I think
that's going to be better. Well, we still consider them
playing from behind, and that's perfect game scripts for Fantasy.
So don't sleep on those guys, especially brock Perty Dak Prescott.
If I wait too long in my drafts and I'm
looking around and I'm saying, man, who's still on the board,
I take like a sigh of relief, and I know
I'm going to be okay if Dak and Brock Perty
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or over there. And same with Joe Burrow, but he
goes pretty early.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Her name is Kendall vealezuela Fantasy Live senior analyst. Thank
you so much for joining the outcob again. We appreciate
it amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (41:53):
Have a great day.
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Point, So we're not going to see that.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
And I've been told you have some thoughts on Nadam
Mendoza that we're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Oh, I can't wait, can't wait.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Do not disrespect my quarterback. Respect you're going.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
To I am not. What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
We'll see, we'll see our bottom of the hour. Kendel
vealezuela fantasy expert. You know, fantasy drafts are right around
the corner. I think our draft's coming up soon, is it?
I would assume.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So who's in charge?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You? Not me?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Ricky?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Probably all right, Ricky Patrick. Maybe somebody's in charge of it.
Somebody is in charge of the draft. And Kendall's gonna
give us the advice we need to work.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I need to know that. I need to know what
to do all right, and then.
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Speaker 5 (01:52):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
And what about tomorrow? Because we're here tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We're gonna set another another another.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
I have to say this for Rob Paca. Are we
gonna sell the game use Josie today? The Game one
T shirt Thursday Edition?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I need something that says odd couple on it.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
I give you, I'm might giving you my playing black tea.
That goes a long way with anything.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Maybe maybe we'll give you one of the jerseys that
I just had retired. We'll talk about that later. Oh god,
oh god. All right, it is the odd couple again.
Big news going on the world of sports. Preseason football
kicking off here in a minute n NBA schedule, We're
gonna start with this. This is the dumbest and the
greatest story that I've seen all week. Pre mentioned it
(02:32):
at the update yesterday. We found out in the wee
overnight hours, that Jaden Daniels, quarterback of the Washington Commanders,
has sent a letter to LSU indicating that they could
no longer use his name, image, and likeness. They say
that part of it is that their contract with him
ran out after I think six months after he left
(02:54):
the school. But most importantly, they're upset, and he's upset
that the team decided to give away his number five
jersey to LSU sophomore cornerback DJ Pickett. And in fact,
we also found out later today or earlier today excuse me,
that his camp has even demanded that the Tigers return
(03:18):
his copy of his twenty twenty three Heisman Trophy. The
school has no intention to do so, Lane Kiffin saying,
I'm trying to mediate this whole thing, but so far
it's not going well. Your thoughts on Jane and Daniels
being King petty right now?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Oh, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
I honestly don't get it, and I get to some
people numbers matter, and this is one of those situations
where life is unfair sometimes.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Jade and Daniels, life is unfair.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
You went to LSU where a guy four years prior
went undefeated, won the Natty and the Heisman, and there
is an iconic photo of him smoking a cigar that
we're never gonna forget.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Never never.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
You're up against that, which is not fair to you.
I feel like Chut Holmgren at one point in his life,
was like, I'm going to go in an NBA and
I'm gonna be a unicorn and I'm gonna be so awesome,
and then Wemby comes along and is like, hole, my beer.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Life is unfair sometimes.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
So in this situation with Jaden Daniels, I honestly like
it doesn't to me.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
None of this makes him look good. None of it.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
The the losses that he had in his year, I
think they lost three games, they were all against frank teams.
He didn't participate in their bowl game after it was
all said and done. He also transferred there. I know
played two years at LSU, but it's LSU rob.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
G out of the SEC.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Like if you would have maybe stayed at Arizona State,
maybe you could have had your jersey retired. And this
leads me to my next point. Who benefited more. LSU
helped Jaden Daniels or Jaden Daniels helped LSU. LSU I
think helped Jayden Daniels get that Heisman Trophy. He would
(04:59):
not have gotten that had he not gone to LSU.
And it's just again, it's unfair. Life is unfair at times.
But because of all of all of that, it just
to me, I don't know why you would want this
type of chatter surrounding your name when you're getting ready
to go play in the NFL, when there's a lot
(05:19):
of pressure on you. People are wondering if your rookie
season was a fluke, and with what the Commanders did
last year injuries and all, so people.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Are wondering there's a lot of pressure on Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
I don't know why you would want this chatter surrounding
that and then to come out with your own statement
and then.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Say I respect LSU. I've been focused on training camp.
I hope this can be resolved privately, Pappy, it's not.
We're all talking about it.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
None of this is being resolved privately in any way,
shape or form.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And so I just I don't know where this came from.
It's just it's a it's a number. I get it.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
Jadeen Daniels will always go down as the LSU Heisman
Trophy winner of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
No one's ever gonna take that away from you.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
But now people are like, oh, do I have to
if I'm a if you're an LSU fan, do you
have to pick a side?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Because I feel like you're gonna pick Joe Burrow, Like, because.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
The description in the ESPN story brought up the comparison
of Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
We're not pulling this out of nowhere. This was in
the story.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
So it's like, are you forcing Tigers fans to have
to decide again? All they got to show you is
that iconic cigar photo.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Of Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
I just feel like he's I don't know what advice
he got, who he got it from, but it's not
good advice. Your name was awesome, you were always gonna
be an LSU great, not that you're not. But now
we're talking about this and you want your trophy, like
none of this is I don't get I don't like
any of it for him because Jadeen Daniels his character,
everybody likes him as a person.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
There's nothing you know what I'm saying, And so I
hate this for him because it is it is like,
who kaid you this advice? It's not good advice?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Mom, Mom? It probably was his mom.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
Mom.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, Monci, that opinion was so lefty. Can't be right,
all right? Usually you're so right you can turn left
for flip your.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I can't wait for you to tell me how I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
There is something to be said about standing on business,
and I have no issue with anybody. You just mentioned
that you felt you had to ask everybody the studio
if they wanted Starbucks, and I said, yeah, but because
if Alex didn't get offered, he would have got his
own later, And was said, hey, don't worry. I got
my own and would have been petty about it. I
have no issue with being petty. Petty is being one
(07:23):
thousand petty, and he is well within his rights to
do so, because not everything is for sale nowadays. There's
something to be said about you know what. I don't
think I'm gonna let you wear that jersey because there's
only been two other Heisman winners in LSU football history.
You mentioned Joe Burrow the greatest season ever, and this
other guy, Billy Cannon from the nineteen fifty nine season.
(07:46):
They retired his jersey the year after he won it.
The year was nineteen sixty. Okay, so there's only been three.
Two of those jerseys have never been given out. This
other one was given out. And why was it given
out Because they decided the only way they were gonna
get this five star cornerback named DJ Pickett was if
(08:08):
they gave him number five. Because they could not sell
their football program. They could not sell national championship aspirations
under Brian Kelly. They could not sell the idea that
you could create your own legacy or even where number
seven like all the great defensive backs have worn at LSU.
Instead dj Pickett and his camp, his camp being his dad,
(08:29):
said themselves to the Advocate, never heard of them, but
he said if they would have been told us during
the recruiting process that they said, hey, number five is
not being issue. We can't promise number five. We'll talk
to Jaden and see what he has to say if
he gives his blessing he does. If he does and
he doesn't, then we would have moved forward. So you're
telling me that a seventeen eighteen year old high school
(08:50):
kid has so much gravita over LSU football that he
can tell you whatever millions you're offering me in nil,
whatever deals you're gonna willing to give me, unless I
get number five, I am not coming to your football program.
Then I don't want you in my football program. Because
LSU is supposed to be one of the powerhouses. That's
(09:11):
what they say. That's the reason that they said that
Lane Kiffin had to go from Ole Miss to LSU
because this is a big step in the world of
college football, and so for Jade and Daniels to be
now the only Heisman winner in their program's history to
have his jersey given out to another player, in this case,
a sophomore who played one season. I have no issue
(09:35):
with him being upset about it. And if you're gonna
treat me differently than you treated your other Heisman players,
then yes, give me my trophy back to because it
obviously doesn't mean as much to you as it does
to me.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Are you done?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I'm crashing You've crashed it, Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I thought you were making a U turn and fixing that.
I think you just crashed it, right, Okay, So LSU,
it's about LSU.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yes, that's ls You.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Can do whatever they want. Is it's about LSU. It
is not about Jayden Daniels. That's the big picture here.
You just said it, And if LSU wants to give
a number out, it is them. They're damn right to
the first guy you mentioned with the Heisman won a Natty, right,
Billy Cannon won a Natty.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Won two most probably if he did, he won, Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Jayden Daniels did not.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
So that there's the first difference when it comes to
I'm just but you're you're using those two his comparisons
as to why it should be the same, but they're not.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But it has been the same.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, no, no, no, no. The three Heisman winners.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
One of them did not win a Natty, so already
it's not exactly the same. Now, I can't take credit
for this information, but Sleeper College Football on Twitter x
posted the last ten Heisman winners jersey's numbers after they left.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
What happened.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yes, so in twenty.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Twenty five, Nana Mendoza his number war in the next
year twenty twenty four, Travis Hunter retired number twenty three.
Twenty twenty twenty three, Jayden Daniels, the one number is
gonna be worn on defense. Caleb Williams retired number. Bryce
Young the number was one two years after DeVante Smith
worn the next year, Joe Burrow not worn, sense Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Carler Murray worn.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
The next year, Baker Mayfield worn four years after Lamar
Jackson worn the next year. This is not new, This
isn't a dig at Jayden Daniels. This is just the
bigger picture of things, and it's about LSU in the future.
If it was about the past, then LSU.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Would just wrap up the tree set their president. Those
other schools you mentioned USC their president is if you
win the highs, when we retire your jersey.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Okay, but they didn't retire Joe Burrows, but they haven't
given it out.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That's right, but it's not retired.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
They're gonna give me that.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
For none of Venezuela's number was not retired.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
It was just never given out until recently when he
was put in the Ring of Honor as a as
a veteran player. But for Nane of Valanzuela's number was
not up in the rafters even though it was never
given out, it was clearly not retired.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
It was just not given out.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Do you think they're ever gonna give out Joe Burrows
number that was?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You probably not, But he what undefeated? When undefeated, they.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Both won Heisman's I understand that, but there is still
a difference between an A plus and an.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I wish you were sitting down for this conversation. Standing
standing makes it uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Taller than you and she's standing, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'm actually not taller than him, even though but he was.
He didn't know I stood.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I didn't he didn't know.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
You stand on business.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I stand on business and I stand when I'm doing
a show.
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Yeah, all right, See, this is what you gotta expect
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All right, it looks like little claps, you know.
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Speaker 4 (13:43):
Because rumor has it, a time was had at ment
and a night last night in Magic City.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
What a place to have a oh my gosh, oh god, please,
oh girl.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
We're gonna talk about that at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
It's the culture you gotta learn.
Speaker 10 (14:00):
Yes, Au, listen, I would have been there. I would
have been there, Okay, Rob, you and I'll go. I
will go to Magic City, all right. I will bring
all the singles.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I will do it.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Singles you mean money or women both? Okay?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well, speaking of that real quick tangent, we talked about
this yesterday on the ones Gotta Go singing right Alex
with with Erom Salam One's Gotta Go strip club features right.
So it's the cover charge to get in, Okay, it's
the back row seating the guys who are not actually
paying anywhere. They just back there watching the kitchen, the
(14:38):
champagne room, which is of course beyond the VIP. It
goes like another another level. Sure, and the last one
was making it rain.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
One's gotta go.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yes, it's gotta be the dudes in the back not
really perverted.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, it's got to be the dudes in the back.
At least they're in the back. I you know, not
that I've been so many strip clubs, but I have been.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
There's times where I see the guys sitting in the
very front road not giving money.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And that's terrible, that's awful.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Oh yeah, don't claim that you making work for two
dollars twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's got to be that. There's no way you're getting
rid of the food.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You just build a tree and then you pull it back.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, don't get rid of the food, don't get rid
of the champagne.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
You're just rolling like a stack of pennies for dollars.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
I would have kick if I'm security, you would have
been out that second, that second.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
No, you know what's funny is when you go to
a I've been there like in a long time, right,
But when you go and there's no seats in like
the not the back room, but like you know, the
middle area, sure, and you're like, your only seats are
at the stage, Like, I don't want to be tipping
the entire I didn't come here to do that, right now,
so you get a seat at the stage, but you
turn your chair to the side like that, like that'll help,
and it doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
To tip Yeah, of course, yeah, get out of my face.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
There's nowhere else to sit.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Figure it out to bring money. I don't know. If
gotta here, gotta here? You want to see this, where's
the cash now?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
You're just waiting for the two for one three for
one special. That's all pause, no resume that we're not
there paying full prices. We're there to make deals, just
like Rob Parker. That's why it's ment and a night,
because well.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
You should not be making deals on a struck club.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Rob Parker had his night where he had like fifty
five people pay for admission, you know who didn't have
to pay for admissions.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Okay, well that's a little bit different because.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
He's on purpose he sold tickets so that he wouldn't
have to pay.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
That's well, that's Rob Parker.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
That is Rob Parker. Rob Parker in a nutshell. And
there was a lot that happened last night. We get
to that at the bottom of the hour. There was
something that happened in the NFL, or maybe didn't happen today,
but it happened and we found out about it today.
Appearing on the Impulsive podcast, Rams Wide receiver Pookinakua admitted
(16:45):
that he collided with a glass window pane at Michael
rubens All White party earlier this summer, and he walked
into it so hard that it left blood streaming down
his face. Okay, let's go back in the hot tub
time machine. In the last year alone, here are the
things that have happened to Puknacua.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
The whole list, because that's lo it is long.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Most recently, of course, walking to a glass window. One
thing he did was he went on his live stream
and said that NFL referees rig or botch games on
purpose just so they can get shown on television. In December,
he went on a life steam with Adan Ross and
he was performing an anti Semitic hand gesture that he
(17:26):
wanted to use as a touchdown celebration. He also, during
the Super Bowl got drunk, admittedly threw out a tweet
taking shots at Sam Darnold, who had just beat him
in the NFC Championship game. And then, of course, the
one everyone knows about allegedly said f all the Jews
(17:47):
and bit a woman on her shoulders so hard at
left teeth marks. We saw the pictures and allegedly bit
a second woman's thumb. She of course, filed a civil lawsuit.
Pokunakua is currently leaking for a new contract. He's on
his last year of his rookie you, yep, if you
were less need and Sean Gvay and the powers that
be with the Ramley, how are you handling this situation?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
Ooof this is tough because we've seen what pukin Akua
can do. Is it pokin Akua? Is it Matthew Stafford?
Is it a mixture of both? I don't know, but
Pooka and Akua has given us some amazing catches and
plays in a very short amount of time. To say
that he is not talented would be a lie. But
(18:28):
with talent comes a lot of responsibility. With money, I
better trust you. I better trust you that you are
going to be able to handle the money, the fame,
and be available to play on the field. So with
pokin A coo, if I'm the Rams, I don't even
know if this is possible because he's on I don't
know what Pookah's gonna do with his people But if
(18:48):
I'm the Rams and let's hypothetically say they win the
Super Bowl right after this, I'm trading Pukanakua.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I am sending him on his merry way.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
You franchised tag him so you can trade.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
It, right like I I don't. I am not planning
to keep Pukuinakua long term. There is no reason for
me too, because he is he has not proven that
he can handle the spotlight, the money. Imagine how he's
gonna be if he does get a mega deal. If
this is how he's handling things now, I don't want
to be there when it's a lot more money in
(19:18):
his pocket. And it sucks because it's like he's so talented.
You see it, you see it every day, every game.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
But to me, it's not worth it. It's a headache.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
And there's so much that goes when it comes to football.
You can be not only are you are.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
You a problem to yourself? You can become a problem
in the locker room. Like, there's so much to it.
So for me, there's there's.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
No way I am giving him the money that maybe
he deserves based on talent. Yep, I'm not doing it,
even though he might deserve it I'm not doing.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Right because he's based on production. Yeah, seven hundred yards,
eleven total touchdowns, Like, it should not be a question.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
It should not be.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
He's worth top of the receiver, which is like forty
forty five is somewhere in there. He's the best offensive
player on the team. With apologies to Matthew Stafford, he's
only twenty four. Theoretically, all of his best football is
aheads ahead of him. But when you go down the
list of things that he's done, again, none of these
things are super egregious, except for maybe the biting the woman.
(20:15):
I don't think any of these are crimes, right, They're
just dumb instances, right.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Sorry, I thought I was gonna sneeze it out.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Okay, Hey when that happens, yeah, it's gonna come out
a door. So like, again, all these things are small, right,
relatively in the ground scheme of thing we have people.
I think Tyreek Hill punched a pregnant woman in the stomach, right, Like,
there are much more great egregious things that players have
done in the NFL or getting into the NFL. But
when you add all these things up together, it paints
(20:44):
a picture of a guy who just doesn't get it right.
He may not be a criminal, he may not be
a bad person, but he doesn't get it. And I
can't trust that if I give you forty million dollars
a season, that you're suddenly gonna turn it around, because
even something as stupid as walking into a glass window.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Pane, have you done that?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I don't believe you.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Okay, So well, I'm glad you brought that up because
obviously I wasn't there. I don't think I'm ever gonna
get invited to the White Party.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Can we manifest it? Let's manifest it.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
I don't think we're going to be there. Aaron Rodgers
called it a weird party.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Okay, Well, Aaron Rodgers is weird.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Aaron Rodgers is weird. No stuff, right?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, you cocktail?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Okay? So he, you know, called it a weird party.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Right.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
And so the people I know who have walked into
windows and glasses and sliding doors and things of that
nature are little kids who are too excited they run
in stuff, or you're just drunk, right, And that's fine.
So you mean to tell me that Pukua Nakua got
so drunk at the White Party of all places, which
(21:48):
is like the whusu of all these celebrities and power
brokers all across sports and entertainment. You got so drunk
that you couldn't see the glass in front of you,
and you walked into it. It's such a speed that
you cause the blood to flow them from your face
at some point.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, he was looking for his teammate DeVante Adams. Yeah,
that's that's what the wrong is. Uh, you know, I'm
with you.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
You know, you said it perfectly, like I didn't even
think about where this happened. Like with all of the
who's who surrounding you were this you are making an
impression on people at your level, like.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You could say, and higher than you.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, you you know, he could say exactly.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
He could say to us, I don't care about these
two latinos and what they say about me, but those
people at that party, like you should care of how
you look around them.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Honestly, didn't even think about that. Yeah, he doesn't get it.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
He doesn't realize that the Rams, if I have the
money for the Rams, he's an investment, and it is
an investment that is not worth the risk. Right now,
There's no way, there's no way I'm investing in Pukuinakua,
No way.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
No one thousand and then here's the other thing, because
you mentioned like the idea of just getting rid of him.
I know it sounds shocking of a lot of people,
and you'd say, hey, we have to refranchise him. We
get like two first round picks for it or whatever.
What people don't understand about the Rams specifically, this is
not just a Puka thing. This is about the Rams
as a franchise is that they are better at identifying
(23:11):
late round talent than almost anyone in football. Right. Poka
Nakoupah was a fifth round pick, Kyvier Williams a fifth
round pick. Kobe Turners the third round pick Byrie Young
is the third round pick. Quentin Lake was a sixth
round pick. So they have shown, even with Puka himself,
that we can find guys to do this. Cooper Cup
was a late round pick and they turned all of
(23:33):
those guys into highly productive players because they find guys
who fit the system, who do what they want them
to do, and they can be very successful at it.
And Pookuin Nakoua, as good as he is as a
football player, I don't know if he's worth the headache
that's going to come along with it.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I think about that all the time.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
I mean I even thought about it because again, you
listed off multiple things that Pukkua has done in his
short career, and I wonder.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
This is all just in a year.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
That's what I'm saying, Like it's it's bizarre.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
I wonder sometimes if pukain Akua was not in La Ram,
if he was drafted in a smaller market with things
have gone differently for him because there's so much here
in La There's so much attention, there's so much to do.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I don't think he's friends with Aiden Ross if he's
not on the.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Rams exactly exactly, like how much? But is this just
something that was gonna happen no matter what. I don't know,
but I think about that because being.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
In LA is different.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
It is different, even though the Rams are not necessarily
a franchise team like you know, a historic franchise team
like the Cowboys or the Packers, and it's not like that,
but it's still the La Lights, you know, And so
I wonder, but it's been very, very disappointing because there's
just so many in a year of two years of
(24:49):
been playing the highlight reel.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Is so gray, so good, like.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
It's so good and at the same time, the fact
that you and I are discussing this, that's so sad.
But I am not invested you. You are a bad
investment long term.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I could not agree with. See now you're so right,
you can turn left. Ah, I look at this before.
Your pain was so left it couldn't be right.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I don't know you crash the car whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
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something I think is very important in the culture of brotherhood,
of romances and maybe something that MONSI might have a
different perspective on as a lady with a man who
might have romances. So Robgi just finished his last Vegas
euphooric weekend with his boys. That wasn't as adventurous as
you thought it might be now that you guys are older,
(26:15):
was it.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
We're totally different now than it used to be back
in there.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Well, you went to Vegas, I did, went with your boys,
made some money on craps, had your own craps table.
You know Robbie Pocket watching It's his own craps table.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Crazy.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
But robb Gi had this comedy show he went to
over the Little State, had with his brother's there and
his brother had a little involvement with another guy there
that was buying some snacks and et cetera for the setup.
So Robgi tell us exactly how it happened. And then
the question I want to follow up with it is
is this okay for men to do this to maybe
(26:48):
buy other men's stuff, but set it up first, Robberie.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
So we're in line for the bar at the comedy
show to see Sebastian Meniscalco. Okay, and a guy behind
us notices that he and my brother the exact same watch,
and once he saw that, you would have thought they
were best friends. Give him a big old dap, hugs him,
says he wants to get our phone numbers. We should
all hang out together. And he say, hey, you know what,
buy these guys some drinks. And I'm like, oh, you know,
(27:12):
buy a drinking No, no, buy them too by him, matter
of fact, get him two popcorns, two to go. So
this guy, who's probably in his fifties bought me and
my brother both big old trays of drinks and popcorn.
So is it like a man card violation to allow
another grown man who you don't know to buy you drinks?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I don't understand the problem here. Really, boys are such bros.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
The minute you find something in common or something as
the watch, you guys just gravitate towards each other.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Bros before hose is a real thing.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Every time I watch The Bachelorette, all of the bros
in the house.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
That are dating the same girl, are encouraging each other
to have a grip date. You got this. You're a
better man than me. Please take my girl out and
show her. How would? I don't mean treats a lady. I'm
just brie. Am I wrong? But Bros, this is to me.
I don't think this breaks bro code at all. I
feel like this is exactly what bro code is.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
If you find something like I feel like guys when
they have and they see another guy that they have.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Something in common with, it's like, oh my god, that's incredible.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
To drink much less too.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Well, maybe that says that you're just cheap more than anything.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I was gonna say, I'm not buying a random dude
and his buddy or he's my brother. Four drinks that
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Okay, fine, But if that dude has a ton of
money and it doesn't affect them, he just wanted to
do a nice thing.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
This is just a nice genture. It's just sure they
had the same watch. He got excited. Maybe he thought
he was kind of cute too, maybe just a little.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
His wife came later, he didn't seem as interested. I'll
tell you that. That's well, that's a little.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
He might swing both ways.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Didn't you say too that his wife came with two
girlfriends too, and he was just like, le.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Me low with my l a. Guys, right now you are.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Touching on something that makes sense because it's like his guys.
If I find out like, oh, rob g, you like jeans,
I like jeans? Right, did we just become best friends,
it's step brother, it's literally instead they hate each other
and then found out like, all right, robb gi name
of dinosaur. You'd be right now, velociraptrap. Now you guys
are best friend.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
So that's a good point, like I've never thought of it.
If Robby I met you, let's say, at Magic City,
and there was you know, somebody hanging a jersey and
somebody's hanging it just like retiring sa there, and.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
You also tipped cinnamon a bunch, I'd be like, we're
best friends.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
We're both tipping cinning and we must have a lot
in comment.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
I'd let you buy me a drink. I'd be cool
with it.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
You'd be cool if I think you were thrown off
by how much by the generosity?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
And I sent a photo to Elijah Willzeven gets up
on the YouTube, but you can see that we each
got one of these trades with two big drinks and
two popcorns.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Yeah, because he could have been a little bit more
like he just seemed like like he really liked your brother,
because he could have just said to the bartender, Hey,
just put whatever they want on my tap.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Guys, nice meeting, you'll walked away.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
He was like, no, I want you guys to get
something ouff at the bar.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Sure, I'll let anybody buy me.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
I'm used to it though, you know, like she always
has people catering to rob g new feeling.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
What about you bring Yeah, I know you're letting a
woman buy you drinks at the Seal Beach.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
No, of course not, of course, I'm saying, of course, absolutely,
of course it's free.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Why not free?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
It's for Brey, It's for bri. Oh, there's the popcorn
and the three the odd couple coming up. Keep it lock.
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Speaker 3 (30:35):
Hello.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Hello, how's it going, guys? I think so much for
having me now.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Thank you for joining us on this Thursday.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
We're so excited to chat with you because fantasy football
season is just around the corner. We're all getting ready
for our drafts. So tell me, if I get the
number one draft pick, who should I take? Let's just
start there, because I really don't. I'm never I'm not
gonna get the number one, but just in case, just
in case, you get to.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
Sit back and you get to enjoy yourself, whatever you're
drinking on draft night. You literally just get to sit
back and say, I get Jamior Gibbs with the one
oh one overall pick. It's I think it's a toss up,
right if you've got the one on one or one
O two. I think it's so close between Jamior Gibbs
and Bjohn Robinson. But when you're looking at these two
running backs, I think the thing that you're going to
tend to lean to is Jamiir Gibbs is on the
(31:23):
better offense. So you're gonna see these two running backs
like go kind of side by side. But if you've
got the one on one, sit back, enjoy it because
you get Jamier Gibbs, who's just going to be fantastic
this season with David Montgomery kind of out of the
picture with this, you know, high scoring offense, so you
get to enjoy it well.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Speaking of running backs, Sakwon Barkley this time last year
was in that conversation for one oh one, right, and
then either due to workload or the offensive line falling
off or both, you know, he slipped now this year,
depending on where you shop around for your rankings, he's
somewhere in like the number ten range RB ten.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Do you think he's gonna have a bounce back season?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Absolutely. I can't stress enough how bad Kevin Patula was
last season. That was the Eagles offensive coordinator. Eagles fans
right now are like, yes, applauding, like thank goodness, that
guy's out of there. But it wasn't like the thing
was that offense wasn't which was just run so poorly
by Petulo. So when you look at Saquon Barkley, I
think regression was inevitable from twenty twenty four because it
(32:20):
was such an extreme But last season, like seventy one
yards per game, zero point four to four touchdowns per game.
It was just it wasn't a good look. He had
injuries too. He had the groin injury and knee injury
on some stingers as well. And so the offensive line too,
Like you had Landon Dickerson, you have Cam Jurgen's, you
had all these guys that are a little bit banged up.
And so to me, I think that I look at
(32:42):
this offense this season and I get really excited. We
have so many new offensive coordinators in town. But Saquon
Barkley is just a prime talent. And you know when
you're looking at him, he's averaged a fifteen percent target
here in five helping you like Eagles seasons at West
in five seasons that we've seen for him. So I
look at him and he's such a smash pick at
the one two turn, that's usually where you're gonna see him.
(33:03):
And Yeah, if you're if you're in the back half
of these draft, you're usually looking at maybe getting two
running backs, like you could start your draft with James Cook,
Saquon Barkley, sometimes ash Jon Gent Sequon Barkley or Kenneth Walker,
and I think that's such a big move for how
healthy he's running backs have stayed. So yeah, I'm looking
at a huge bound back seat season from Saquon too.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Before we move on from running backs, let's chat real
quick about Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
You talked about being healthy and what he was like
the only one that was healthy last year for.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Yeah, so how do you see him still having as
successful of a season.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I mean, he has.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Mileage on him, but yeah, how how do you value
him in comparison even.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
To Saquon Yeah, I listen, I think you're gonna find
people this year that are split again. Last season, I
didn't draft Christian McCaffrey, and I would kind of bit
by it, right because you had him stay fully healthy.
I'm staying the course this year, Like if you're in
the middle of draft, that's usually where you're gonna find
yourself of having a pick between CMC, Jonathan Taylor A
(34:03):
monros Saint Brown. So he was good, but it's because
he was good in the passing game as well, Like
rushing efficiency wasn't as good last season, but he plays
in a great scheme under like Kyle Shanahan. They've got
the number eighteen census offensive line for us at fantasylife
dot com. So I'm saying I'm staying away just because
of the workload from last season. But he's one of
(34:23):
those guys where if you look at him and he's
technically a high risk, high reward player, like he can
help you win a league like he did last season.
He's this high end dual threat running back and he's
got this archetype that can just kind of sore and
fantasy like we've seen before. It's just the question of
how many touches did he get last season easy able
to kind of overcome the injury bug that we've seen
from him before. And I'm saying, no, I'd rather have
(34:46):
a Monross Saint Brown, who is just such a solid
wide receiver and just gives you so many, so many
good seasons like wide receivers, three finishes every time that
he's come into the league. So it's just one of
those things where I'd rather go tried and truant receiver
than kind of risk it on shim again.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Well, Kendall, speaking of tried and shoe ride receiver, we
would have said that about Justin Jefferson up until last season,
right because the water. That situation was so terrible. Now
Kyler Murray's under center, of course he's going to be
better than JJ McCarthy, even his worst case, he is
gonna betteran J McCarthy. So how much better is he
going to be though, with Kyler Murray than he was
at JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Yeah, that's a question. Like I always I I play
the fun game sometimes when I'm on my shows and
I go if we could see a final stat line
for any player before the fantasy season starts, like who
would we want to pick? And there's always you know,
questions about maybe loaded wide receiver rooms like you know,
Jacksonville and who's going to come out on top. But
like my answer to that is justin Jefferson, because like
you said, it can't get much worse.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
I was.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
I was happy that they already just picked Kyler Murray
to be their QB one to start the season because
we didn't have to play this game where we had
to wait till, you know, days before the season started.
But like it was so bad and it was crazy
because he had a career high thirty point one percent
target share and last season, you know you saw career
most from him. It was one of these seasons where
he just looked around me and say, how can he
(36:02):
only have you know, a little over a thousand yards,
two touchdowns and his catchery with sixty percent? So I
think he gets better Kyler Murray. People are going to
not like Kyler Murray just because of what he's done
for us in the past and what he hasn't done
for fantasy. But I think how much JJ McCarthy totally
knuked Jefferson's value. He's usually one of these players that
because of his talent and athleticism, he's quarterback proof, and
(36:25):
it was like, I think JJ McCarthy was the outlier.
So to me, when I look at this Kevin O'Connell system,
he's been able to get really good seasons out of
like just good or fine quarterbacks, and Kyler Murray, I
think is a step above that. So I think I'm
upgrading justin Jefferson. I still think he's a low end
wide receiver. One. We've got the Vikings projected still for
(36:45):
like two hundred and thirty passing yards per game, which
is like not great, but still something. I think that
Kyler Murray is gonna look downfield, He's gonna say where's
Justin Jefferson And he's going to get the ball to him.
So I still think he's a really good mid to
late round one pick for this season.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Sitting in to the odd couple with a Robert Gara,
I am.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
Montie Bilanos and we are talking to Kendall Valenzuela, Fantasy
Life Senior analyst.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Kendall, let's talk about tight ends, because I feel.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Like some people, some fantasy experts, are kind of pushing
out there if you don't go high on a tight
end in the first two three rounds, just wait until
the end and don't worry about it. Do you think
that's if you don't get someone good early on, just
forget about tight ends.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
I will say that's usually, you know, that's been my approach.
It's like a first or last mentality because I think
the tight end landscape and fantasy and everyone knows this.
When you play right, the difference between the tight end
eight and the tight end twelve usually in just total
fantasy points is separated by ten or twelve points. So
if you don't have these elite guys at the end
of the day, you might be looking around and just streaming.
(37:46):
And so to me, if I don't get and my
tight end one, and I think the consensus tight end
one overall this season is brock Pours. I think that
with a little bit of an upgraded offensive line, talk
about an offensive line that couldn't get worse. We're hoping
they can't get worse. But to me, it's Bruk.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
To me, it's Rock Bauers, it's Trey McBride. Even though
people we don't love the Arizona Cardinals, it's Jacoby Bristep,
but he's going to drop back to pass the ton
until maybe they go to their rookie. And so I think,
if you're not getting those two guys, including also Tyler Warren,
I would throw Tucker Kraft in there as well in
Colston Lovelin. To me, if I don't get those five guys,
I look around, and I say, there's so much value
(38:23):
on the board. If you're choosing between you know someone
like Kyle Pitts and maybe you know a Christian Watson
who could have a wide receiver one season and finally
stay healthy and give you those numbers. So I think,
to me, I do like that mentality. Now, if it's
a tight end premium league, we're having a totally different
conversation where you know these guys are going to fly
off the board. But yeah, first or last mentality for me,
(38:44):
because I also think there's really solid you know, later
round picks. George Kittle is going far too late for
someone that looks like he's going to be able to
start the season healthy and in week one Mark Andrews. Yeah,
like Mark Andrews is someone like, yes he's old, but
Isaiah likely's now off the Ravens. And I think that
Lamar Jackson's actually going to drop back to past a
little bit more and we're going to see him run
a little bit less. So that means it's Jay Flowers
(39:05):
Mark Andrews.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
So there are all.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
These guys that are later that aren't the sexiest names
in the world, Like you're not gonna be like, yes,
I got Mark Andrews. But at the end of the day,
with how little we get in fantasy point value between
you know, the number five tight end off the board
and then you know the guy that comes in twelve,
It's just something that you can consider if you don't
get those, Like I said, top five, I'm willing to
wait for some of these later around guys Kendall.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
When the bye weeks hit that Travis Kelsey five for
thirty seven is going to look fantastic. We're going to
be so excited about that, all right. Last one for me.
We know mobile quarterbacks are the cheak code in fantasy.
Josh Allen's wont me some leagus? Lamar Jackson want me
some leaves? Jaden Daniels we already get about at the
top of the show. He's gonna win some leads a
couple of years ago. So with that in mind, how
do you rank or how do you sort out guys
(39:48):
like Matthew Stafford, Dak Prescott, Joe Burrow who would prefer
to just stand in the pocket is slinging around. How
do you navigate their true value when you're drafting.
Speaker 8 (39:57):
I think the only one that's like a true like
one of these pocket passers that doesn't give you much
on the ground is Joe Burrow. But I think he
actually just holds up with the I think he's in
the same tier as Jaden Daniels and Jalen Hurts and
you know, some of those guys because while he doesn't
bring you anything on the ground, you know that through
the air he's got the weapons. This is a high
(40:17):
flying attack with Jamar Chason T. Higgins and so we've
seen it before where he's able to, you know, uphold
two Fantasy relevant wide receivers. And I look at him
and it's hard for a kind of a pocket passer
to make that tier. But I think Burrows like the
lone exception, like he is the one of the best
peer passes that I should say in the NFL. He's
got two great weapons, he's still in his prime. It's
(40:38):
just the health factor, right, So Joe Burrow is one
of my most drafted quarterbacks. Could that come back to
kill me? Absolutely? It scares me every single day. But
when he came back from the turf though, right he
was averaging twenty point six points per game. He was
a QB eight over the final six games. So to me,
while he doesn't have the mobility of some of these
other guys, he's an elite passer and so that's why
I keep him on my radar other guys like Staff
(41:00):
It's fine. I would much rather though, if you're waiting
on quarterback and you're thinking to yourself, while I didn't
get you know, Caleb Williams, I wasn't able to get
the Jackson Darts of the world. I think Trevor Lawrence
is going too late, but he's kind of more of
a mobile quarterback. But I think people sleep too much
on Dak Prescott and Brock Purty. They Dak Prescott doesn't
bring much with his legs anymore. We kind of know that,
but he's one of the few quarterbacks who can deliver
(41:21):
massive passy yards. And this team, while they you know,
short up their defense a little bit more, I think
that's going to be better. Well, we still consider them
playing from behind, and that's perfect game scripts for Fantasy.
So don't sleep on those guys, especially brock Perty Dak Prescott.
If I wait too long in my drafts and I'm
looking around and I'm saying, man, who's still on the board,
I take like a sigh of relief, and I know
I'm going to be okay if Dak and Brock Perty
(41:43):
or over there. And same with Joe Burrow, but he
goes pretty early.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Her name is Kendall vealezuela Fantasy Live senior analyst. Thank
you so much for joining the outcob again. We appreciate
it amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (41:53):
Have a great day.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Thanks for having me, of course, thank you
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