May 25, 2024 • 40 mins
Chris and Rob discuss the recent comments made by former NBA stars Jalen Rose and Evan Turner regarding the ‘foreign invasion’ currently in the NBA right now and tell us whether Anthony Edwards was prematurely crowned as the Face of the NBA. Plus, actor, singer and Boston Celtics super fan Donnie Wahlberg swings by to discuss the Celtics’ thrilling Game 1 win over the Indiana Pacers, the narrative that the Celtics have been underwhelming so far in these playoffs, why Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown might actually be under appreciated, his expectations for the team the rest of the season and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Brushad and Rob Harker.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Jalen Rose, Rob who of course was a very good player.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Member of the iconic Fab five and has done some
great good broadcasting over the years too. He tweeted this
out yesterday, Rob, dear usborn players put in that work
tirelessly and show discipline. Otherwise NBA jobs are.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Become mean extinct.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
If that isn't a shout out to the international takeover,
I don't know what is.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And this is a little different. This is more of
a shot.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We'll spend more time talking about Jalen and what he said, Rob.
But Evan Turner, who played ten years in the NBA,
was a solid player, was not what he was supposed
to be right coming out of Ohio State. He was
a really a top player coming into that draft. Was
actually the second pick overall in twenty ten, but at
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a decent NBA career. Here's what he said after the
Nuggets lost to the Timberwolves. And obviously the Nuggets rob
were led their best two players international Nikola jokicic of course,
of Serbia and Jamal Murray of Canada, and the top
player from Minnesota and top two players were American in
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Anthony Edwards and Carl Anthony town.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
But it's not like they don't have any Internet national players.
Let's not.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Rudy Gobert is their third probably a third best player.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I was gonna say, okay, let's not make it, but.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
They but you know what, that's that's why they they're
looking at them more as the Americans.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Anyway, here's what did you see this?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Rock? What Evan Turner posted on x NO. I just
saw the Jalen Rod stuff. Yeah, here's what Evan said.
I sound like a hater, but I don't want to
see Jokic play another game. It's like watching baseball. I
knew know that will stick under your crow.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Watching Evan Turner in his career was like watching baseball.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
How's that Evan Turner is now like He's the the
beautifire of the game.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
He's the guy who tells you how great it is
to watch what a three time MVP.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
A guy will put up forty.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Points in game six or like, you could say that
after they lost and it's fine, and you could say
you don't enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
He's not as exciting as ant Man.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I don't think you need to be a former basketball
player Chris to say that, but there's still something about
his game and what he's able to do, his passion
ability where he can score the basketball from everywhere.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I mean, it's different tastes for different people.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
That doesn't bother me as much, but the Jalen Rose
thing is something I'm definitely interested in them.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, let me.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Comment on Evan and then I want to hear you going, Jalen,
im look like you said, different tastes for different people, right,
different strokes for different folks. If you like high flying,
and I do, I prefer I mean Michael Jordan, I
think had the best looking game in the history of basketball.
Kyrie Irving with all the you know, the ball handling
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and the moves that he has, all that is exciting
to watch. So I do prefer that style, and I
have thought certain players were boring. I thought Tim Duncan, rob,
as great as he was, was certainly not an exciting
player to watch, right, But I think Jokic is actually
very fun to watch. His passing ability, the fact of
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a seven footer who's not even thin, he's a seventh
footer who's bulky, is bringing the ball up, running the point.
Essentially he is their point guard.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I know it's.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Jamal Murray technically, but the Nicola Jokic is their point
guard rob and I enjoy watching him. It's like Larry Bird.
He wasn't high flying, but he was fun to watch.
Now his passes were a little fancier, or you know,
some of them were.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Jokic can throw the fancy passes.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But I like watching Jokic, and I'm a little surprised
at an NBA player or ex NBA player who I
know the game, would say that it was not fun
to watch him.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I agree, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'm like, I get dunking and I'm not even trying
to rip Duncan, but jo Kics.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I'm surprised somebody that really knows the game.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Thinks Jo Kicic isn't fun to watch right, Not the
way he you just said it. He's a point guard,
a point center, Chris. The way he passes the basketball.
I mean, he does some stuff that's interesting. I look
and go, I can't believe he made that pass.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But seriously, he hit threes with hands in his face.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know, he scores at all levels, can even lead
the break, I mean, for goodness sake.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
So maybe Evan Turner would have hated watching Kareem abdul
Jabal because he did the same thing right, the skyhook,
and I would be like, why should he do anything
different like like that?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
You couldn't stop the shot, Chris, it was really good.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Why should shock shoot a sixteen foot stop.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
The dunk right? Stop dunking, Shock. That's boring, And we
get it.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
You're nine foot tall and you wear eight hundred pass
and nobody can stop you.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Why don't you go to the perimeter?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Oh man? All right?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Rob, So here, I know you want to comment on Jalen,
So have at it. The Jalen thing, I don't think.
I don't think it was ripping, but.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
It sounds good.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
But it ain't gonna have any effect because it ain't
stopping people from getting paid. It ain't gonna stop the
AAU Chris machine.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
People aren't going to adjust. They don't.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
They look at their individual they look at their individual
play and where they want to get to, and they
don't look and go, I want to be a better passer.
I want to have better skills and not score as
many points because I made the right basketball play. They're
not doing that because people are still getting paid. People
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want to put up their numbers, Chris, to have their
highlights and get there. They they're not going to run
and go do fundamentals because that's not going to get
them where they want to go. And even though we
talk about it in a number of European or foreign
players are now gonna be at the top of the draft.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Right is the two of the top three gonna be
four and three to the top.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Four, Yeah, something like that. And they don't look at
it like that doesn't affect me.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know, I'm still gonna be in the draft or
I'm gonna be a lottery pick. So they don't look
at it like that and go, oh, yeah, I need
to work on my passing and I'll score five less points,
right Chris, and be under twenty. But I'll have two
more assists, and I'll know how what's the right basketball
player to make?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Good luck with that, because I don't see that happening.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Look, I agree with you for the most part, Jalen Rose,
that's good, great advice.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It is great advice. It's needed. Rob Let's not.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean, how many how many players, ex players have
we had on the show who've been in denial.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Look, we were still the best in the world.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
We're still the best.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
What you need right there in denial? All right, So
I make Jalen sound in the alarm. I'm with you
for the most part. And I'm gonna add this. I
think a big like are the way we develop players
in our culture.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I don't mean Black culture, African American coulture.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I just can't American social media and the country as
a whole.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
If you are fifteen years old and a great player,
you're a celebrity. Right You're on social media. You probably
got over a million followers, Your highlights are being played
all over the place. People are gassing you up. You're
the man. You're probably people wanting you know, they don't
really ask for autographs as much now, but they want
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pictures everywhere you go, you're probably getting paid. You certainly
can get paid off your social media. You probably you
might be getting the nil deal. That is just not conducive.
Fifteen years old, you haven't made it to the NBA.
We've before all this social media rob there were tons
of guys who were awesome at fifteen and.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Never even either never made the NBA or when they
got there, they were subpar. Oh J. Mayo was supposed
to be the new hotness.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
He was then.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Decent career after one year at USC not even a
decent career.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
His career was cut short. We see that time and
time again.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And meanwhile in Serbia, in Slovenia, in Greece or wherever
it's in Europe, they are if you're fifteen and nice
rab you're playing with grown men, you're practicing twice a day.
You're being yelled at and really coached well by some
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hard nosed coach, and grown men are schooling you every
day in practice, and you don't get much playing time
in the real games. So that developed you much better
than if you think you all that and you about
to go to the NBA and be this great player.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
And so I agree with you on that and I
just added.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That rob to you what you said, but I will
here's what I'll throw in.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And I don't know if we'll respond to it or not.
But pride.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Do we do we?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Or I don't even know if it's pride, It might
just be desperation. I mean, like we need to wake up.
I hear what you're saying. You know, I think we
go ahead.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I just think, Chris, people are on the individual kick.
What you're saying makes sense if you are a part
of a team trying to do something and in that scheme, hey,
you gotta do better on this or that, or try
to play better.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
But to tell an individual player, but if you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Tell him, look, you might be great in California.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You're the tenth best player in America at your age,
or the fifth best or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
But you look at the best players.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
In the world, they're no longer married, Like you know,
I don't know the NBA, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I'm just saying it makes logical sense, Chris.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
But I just don't think people are wired that way
because they don't think it affects them.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
What does it have to do with me.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I'm not scoring less points then, they're gonna hold that
against me. I'm not taking less, you know what I mean,
Like like that's the way they look at it, like, oh,
well that's a smart guy. He made the right basketball
player and he did this, or oh then he he
takes care of the basketball away. Well it sounds good,
and I'm not saying it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, but I know to that point, and you're talking
about playing the quote unquote right way right, I don't
think we I think that's a problem in American basketball
in general that we agree play you know, one man
or two man basketball, high pick and roll at all
the levels now and you know, isolation and over there
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they're learning to play kind of five man ball. Although
Luca is as one on one as anybody. But I
just I think we do need our adults need to
wake up, Rob. The adults that teach the kids need
to wake up and start teaching them better and stop worrying.
You're talking about worrying about themselves. Yeah, a lot of coaches,
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Rob are like, this is my meal ticket. I'm gonna
get on the bench at a major college because of
this kid, right, And you're not coaching him.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You're not teaching him.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
I went to the ball Brothers, not Lonzo. I went
to the Last two Ball. Remember I went to the
I went to the game. Oh yeah, there was Cherry.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Picking California, Leangelo and LaMelo.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
They with Cherry Pick and Chris they wouldn't even come
past half court. The other guys would rebound the ball
and throw it down to them. It was embarrassing. It
was embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
And look at them now.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I mean, Leangelo never was a great prospect, but he's
not in the NBA. LaMelo's in it, but his career
is on hold, and Linzo is injured, you know, and
who knows what his career is gonna be. So yeah,
but hopefully Rob desperate. I would say this before we
go to listeners. I think more players are more ex players. Rob,
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the Ogs, Garnet's, the Paul Pierce's, guys like that.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
They need to start doing what Jalen did.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Now, you gotta do it in a way you and
I would say that some of these guys just don't care.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I don't don't do it in a way that's insulting
to the international rights because I mean, if they.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Gonna come over here, be better. God bless them.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You know, it's nothing against them at all, but it's
just saying, look, we need to step up.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
This is a game that was created in America.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
We've dominated it for you know, one hundred years, and
now we're losing a grip on it. So let's start
playing better and teaching better. I just want more of
these guys, the ogs, to come out and start saying that.
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Speaker 5 (14:50):
Donnie Wahlberg, Oh guy, Donnie Wahlberg of course, actor, singer, producer, director.
I know you watch them on Blue Bloods and all that,
and you watch them at the game and Boston. I mean,
you got so much airtime, Donnie, my man, how are.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
You you know? We needed we needed good energy last night.
We needed it. I was, uh, you know, my phone
was really quiet. All the self experiences are being real
quiet until that three pointed by Jalen Brown. And then
I looked down on my phone at and during the
during the timeout, yep, I had nine thousand techs. Wow, man,
half of them saying let's go Celtics. The other half's saying,
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your team so lucky.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
And you know what, Donnie, we were talking earlier on
the show, and I believe this.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Sure you got to have some luck.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
But to me, the Celtics winning that game when they
had no business winning it, they took advantage of it
and they made big plays Jalen Brown Tatum in overtime.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
That's what good teams do. Don't you feel good about that?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
What they do whenever whenever teams put it this way,
if they lost the game, what would everyone say? You know,
they won the game, they hold out, Jalen made the
shot to save the game, and Tatum found his rhythm
in overtime and carried them in overtime. And that's that's
what great players do. You know, you can't give a
great player a second chance, and Tatum got a second chance.
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And you know, I would say the great teams started.
And I'm not comparing the Celtics. Certainly we haven't won
anything yet with this with this team, so I'm not comparing.
But you know, when teams win championships, you need luck.
You need to take advantage of opportunities. You can't lose
games like this, you know, because honestly, you said the
Celtics had no business winning the game. Really, Indiana had
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no business being in the game the way it started
and the way the Celtics went back up in the third.
But we just kind of we got lulled into playing
their game and that was always going to be a
dangerous situation. With Indiana. You know, if you're scoring seventy
points at halftime against them, even if you're winning, your
playing their game. And we were sixty four points. I
think we played their game and we got away with it.
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But you know, great teams and championship team have to
win these games.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Speaking of the Pacers, we know most people didn't want them,
but they wanted the Knicks against the Celtics. Of course,
I know the networks wanted it. But my point is
the Pacers they can shoot a little bit. They shout
six against the Knicks and what was it last night,
fifty five? I mean, can we give them an out
credit because they shoot the basketball really well.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
They're a good team. You know, they went to the
midseason tournaments finals.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, you know, they lost.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
They'd beat Boston to go there, and I think that
gave them a lot of beliefs that they could beat
the Celtics in this series. You know, I think they
didn't show up in the finals of the n season tournament,
but they really they're a tough team and if you
don't slow them down, you can lose to them. And honestly,
I thought the Knicks were a phenomenal story this year.
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And I really was, you know, hoping it would be
New York Boston because I'm in New York filming Blue Bloods,
and I could go to all the games and I
would have fun, you know, getting in arguments with everyone
on the crew of Blue Bloods because they're all New
York fans. But I thought Indiana would wear New York
out because New York had so many injuries, and he
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just you know, if they if they got to try
to keep up with the team, eventually it was gonna
wear them down. And in many ways it did, you know,
many ways, the New York just ran out of gas.
And they probably could have won the series. But they
just ran out of gas because the team does not stop,
and if you let up on d they can run
you right off the court.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
All right, here's what people are going to say about
your Celtics, Well, they should get to the finals. Everybody
else was hurt in the Eastern Conference, right, the Knicks
were beat up the Miami, Right, they would beat up
who else. Uh Giannis was beat up or heard uh
everybody everybody in the East. But that has no effect
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on what you're doing. All you can do, right is
play who's available and who's out there. But how important
is this for the Celtics to have a chance.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And do they have to win?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Donnie like like because if they get out of the East,
you can say that. But they have more experience than
the Mavericks and the Tea Wolves. Why shouldn't they be
favorite and why shouldn't we believe that the Celtics are
finally going.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
To get over the hurdle.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Well, first of all, Rob, I love this new kind
of gentler. Rob, You're being so good for my Boston team.
I can't even believe what I'm hearing.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I'm just being honest.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, because the Celtics hate is so real. Look, I
think that they definitely if they're fully healthy. And again,
we're missing one of our key players. You know, the
missing for Zingis is huge.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
No, that's a big loss.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Yeah, it's making Al play more minutes than he wants to.
It's putting Luke Cornette in some tough situations. It's putting
a lot of pressure on the team. But I think
the Celtics can and should win the championship this year.
I think they're the best team. I think it's going
to be tough whoever comes out of the West and
they still got to finish off Indiana. This is we
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only got one game down with them. But you know,
you can't control who you play, and this is a
very unusual year in the NBA, Like the Celtics really
haven't had any competitions so much so that even like
talking heads in Boston are like, this isn't even fun,
this is boring. We're just winning by twenty five every night.
I'm like, well, you are you mad that we're winning?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
It's like, we can't control who we're playing. It's you know,
and then we get a good game last night, it's
a buzzer beater, and everyone's mad that it was a
closed game. I mean, you can't win right now. This team,
I think they overachieved early in their careers, Tatum and
Brown in some of the pad and you could say
the same thing about Lebron's teams that you know, who
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did they play. They played the Celtics in the conference
finals one year with Kyrie was out for the Sea
Bordon Haywood was out for the season, you know, and
they played a bunch of rookies and all the flogs.
They took them a seven games. So if you can
only play who was in front of you. The Celtics
are doing what they gotta do. They've had a few
messy games and hopefully, you know, last night was a
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messy game and they just finally won one of those.
And they'll just they'll get through this series and Porzingis
will be healthy and I think they should be able
to win a championship. Their shit, it's not going to
be easy because they don't give championships away. If they did,
everyone would have one, no.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Year, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I'll guess Donnie Wahlberg, of course, actor, singer, producer, director,
at a star of blue Bloods on the CBS and
let me, let me get let me get hit this Donnie.
So everybody loves aunt Mann and with good reason. Obviously
he's twenty two years old. They got all the Michael
Jordan comparisons and they're in the Western Conference finals right
that people didn't think that they'd be able to be
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Denver and get there. But you know, they're making it
like we haven't seen a young guy due to kind
of things that a man did. But I hate to
remind people, but did Jason Tatum do the same thing
like four years ago? I mean, I think people have
forgotten about Tatum start and what he's been able to
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accomplish in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Absolutely, I think Tatum and Jaylen Brown have done so much,
and look, you know, there's been circumstances that have kept
them from winning. I mean, I think they should have
beaten Golden State. I don't think we were deep enough
in the finals that year. I think, you know, a
couple of Sam Howser threes, if he would have played more,
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might have got us over the top in some of
those games. But you know, I think people just sometimes
what happens is, you know, we get into the debating
about sports so much, and everybody was like jokers, this
player of.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Hello, yeah, we got you, Donnie ahead finishing.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Sorry, I'm so sorry, I'm in I'm in the Lincoln funnel.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Do you see Chris got stuck in the tunnel.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
He's stuck somewhere because I can't even believe it didn't
show up for this conversation. I know, well, it's okay
because he usually defends me, But now you're being so
nice to my Celtics. We don't even need. But I'm
just gonna say, you know, with An he's playing incredible.
You know, sometimes when we put teams too high on
a pedestal, then we're at surprise when they lose. Like
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everyone said, Denver's gonna win, Denver's gonna win the championship.
Celtics can't handle Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver. And then all
of a sudden it was like, oh, wait a minute.
They lost in the second round to a team that
no one gave credit to. And you know, they got
Minnesota if you look at it on paper. I mean,
I didn't necessarily pick them to win the series, but
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that's the playoffs built teams structurally they got They're built
for half courts, they built for interior defense. You know.
That's that's a tough team to play in the playoffs,
and they were kind of built to beat Denver, you know,
and they're gonna be tough on whoever they play. I
don't think Dallas is going to beat them. You're wrong,
you know. I didn't think Dallas are going to beat Okay, see,
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so who knows. But regardless, I think if the Celtics
get healthy and Poorzingis comes back, and the longer we
keep winning games and don't have to rush him back,
the better chance we have to actually take advantage of
him coming back, because you know it could be one
of those moments drop where they rush him back, he
hurts his ankle long term, and now we can't even
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compete next year, you know. So it's they got to
hopefully keep him out as long as possible and then
bring him back when they need him, hopefully for the finals.
Hopefully we can beat Indiana without and it's not going
to be easy, but hopefully we can at least win
a few more games before we got to bring him back.
And then I'll take my guys over any team if
they're fully healthy this year, and if they don't win,
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is it going to be disappointment? It's going to be
break up the Celtics, I don't think.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
So you they don't win, Okay, now he I'm gonna
be mean. If they don't win, they got to do
something you can't keep bring running it back like like
it's set up for them a a pretty easy road
through the East and then the West with these young
you know, different teams and teams that don't have the experience,
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haven't been to the finals, like the Celtics. Like this,
and I get it with poor Zingis being out, but
other people got people banged up or not playing.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
This to me.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Seems like the Celtics year. If you don't win it here,
when are you winning it?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Well, that's a fair question. It's a fair question, but
I'm not sure what more is out there. I mean,
we broke it up last year. You know, many people thought,
keep Rob Williams, you know, Keith Barcus smart, pick up
one more player and we're good. And you know, the
rosters completely turned upside down. I think, you know, last
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night a lot of people and I'm answering your question,
but I'm referencing last night as a way to answer that.
I think last night's game showed, you know, Drew Holidays lunch.
He was so clutched up the game, so many little plays.
He scored a lot of points. He made so many
great plays that really kept us from blowing the game,
just takeaways and loose balls. I mean, all these clutch
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plays that don't really get recorded in the statuet, although
his stat line was pretty incredible. You know, if he
plays the way he can play and brings that that
leadership that you know, we we traded for him for
and for Zingis is healthy and and and the bench
guys are playing good. I will say one thing. We're
not the deepest team. Everyone's like Celtics are so deep.
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We're really we're only playing like seven guys right now
in the playoffs. I mean, we're not the deepest team.
But hopefully, if everyone's healthy and playing good, we will
have the depth and we'll be able to pull this
thing together. And I'm not worried about next year. We
got to focus on this year. If they don't win it,
we'll deal with next year. Next year.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I hear you, Donnie, and we always appreciate you, my man.
Thank you so much for giving us some time. We'll
be seeing you on TV jumping around and uh, when
they get to the finals, we'll talk to you.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And if they win it, you know we're gonna talk
to you, Donnie.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
I look forward to it. It's always great talking about YEP.
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Speaker 1 (27:24):
Last night, the Dallas Mavericks go into Minnesota and steal
Game one of the Western Conference Finals and along with it,
home court advantage with a one O eight one oh
five w over the Minnesota Timberwolves, and uh, the stars
from the Mavericks showed up. Kyrie gives them thirty, Luca
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gives them thirty three.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
And it was Chris because it was Kyrie Early and
Luca Lagett, you know what I mean, Like it was perfect.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, and they tend to seem like they do that
usually it's Luca, you know, kind of earlier and Kyrie
lay but yeah, they I mean, it's great to have
two incredible stars and offensive juggernauts like that to rely on.
But for the Timberwolves, Rob their two main guys did
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not deliver. Carl Anthony town Towns go six for twenty
with sixteen points, and Anthony Edwards, who, to his credit,
Rob did have eleven rebounds, a team high.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
And eight assists.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Actually, both the eleven rebounds and the eight assists matched
game highs with a couple of players from Dallas. But
he had a team or He had nineteen points, not
a team high, but he shot six for sixteen. Robin
sixteen of his shots or twelve of his sixteen shots
were three point attempts.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
So what did you take from last night's game?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
And this is not Chris. I think he's an outstanding talent.
He's got a future ahead of him. But I think
this was another example, and we've seen this now of late.
He started the postseason like unbelievable forty point games. Everybody's
random raven. People want to crown the ant man as
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the face of the NBA and all that.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I'm here to say, punk the breaks.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Anthony Edwards is not not the face of the NBA.
He's a tremendous player. His team is having a fantastic run.
They have a chance to get to the NBA Finals.
I'm not writing them off. I'm not writing him off.
But let's just deal with the facts, not the feelings.
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We understand you want an American to be that guy
and to hold that banner for the NBA and for
us to be proud that a.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Bro bro is leading the NBA.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
And it ain't a guy from some country we've never
been into and we'll never get to.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I've actually been to Serbia.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah, you, but nobody else.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
And but the facts remain, Chris.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
He's now had under twenty points in four of his
last six games. The Big Game seven a no show,
offensively six for twenty four. I mean, that's not a
big time performance in a big game. It gets glossed
over because they won and other people stepped up. And
that's all I'm saying is like the rhetoric and the
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love affair and all that do not match the stat sheet.
They not right now. And I'm not Chris. I am
not discounting him. I'm not saying he's not a great
player and has a beautiful future. He's twenty two, but
he is not. Can I spell us for you, Rob
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g and all? The face of the NBA.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Okay, Look, you make some good points there, and I
think we have to be honest, Rob when we say
the face of the NBA, that's one guy, and correct
me if you think I'm wrong. Rob, I'm going back to,
like the late seventies, the guys that have been the
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face of the NBA.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Doctor j.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
In the eighties, I'll give you Magic and Bird, then
Michael Jordan and then Lebron James. Now around them or
in years in between them, there are faces of the NBA.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Between Jordan and Lebron. Rob, I would.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Say there was Shaq, there was Kobe. You know, there's
a group of guys as Lebron. During Lebron's tenure, Steph
k D and some other guys have been, you know,
kind of those secondary faces when Jordan was ruling. Rob Barkley,
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David Robinson, Elijah and Patrick Ewing those were some of
these secondary faces. I think, Rob, right now, the notion
that Anthony Edwards was at least you know, to this
year or next year, was going to be the face
of the NBA, I always think that was kind of
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a misnomer. I think he'll be one of the faces
right now. Those faces, Rob, Luca, I mean, you know
you still got the old guard, Steph, Lebron, KD.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Right, they still are part of the face.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah right, And they still might be the face, even
though they're not even in the playoffs at this point.
But that next group, Rob is Luca and Yo Kitchen Uh.
I wouldn't even I don't know if I say emb
just because he never goes deep into the playoffs, but
Jason Tatum and and Yes, Anthony Edwards, Yannis, yes D
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and And I think what's interesting, Rob about this era
of parody that we really are going through, is will
one of these guys emerge as the face?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I mean, you have to be a dominant. Look at
the guys I'm talking about. Lebron won four.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And was winning what he went four MVPs, Jordan won
six and was at five MVPs. Magic and Bird won
eight championships between them and six MVPs.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
So like.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I so, I don't think Anthony Edwards was about to
be the face. Now, look, if they win this championship, Rob,
and they win next year too, then maybe right, but
I don't think it was he was going to Just
even if he wins this championship, is he gonna be
the only face? I wouldn't go that far because I
think Rob, with these guys I've mentioned, they were clearly
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the best players in the league within a little bit
of a gap in between them and the.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Second game, and he doesn't. He doesn't have that Chris
and he's.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Not that now I agree. Look, I don't Michael Jordan himself.
As you know, Rob text me we were texting it.
He said he sees similarity. So there are some similarities
to him and Jordan. But I don't think Rob, and
maybe I'll be proven wrong, I don't think he'll ever
be like on the level of a Jordan.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I know, I don't think you're wrong.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
I just think that that's a lofty goal, even a
guy like Lebron who has had so much success.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Well you would say, I would say, and we both
obviously think Jordan's go.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
But I would say Lebron is on that level, like he's.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
On a conversation, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
But I don't see Anthony Evers being like a top
ten all time player, right.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I just don't see it either.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
And my point, Chris is just like, if you wanted
to be excited about his first eight playoff games, Chris, right,
he averaged thirty two point one points and he shot
fifty six percent from the field. That's that's why he
got everybody's attention. And he's an exciting player, right his
style of play yep, okay, But in the last four games,
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he's averaging twenty points, Chris and shooting thirty four point
seven percent. I mean, like, like the numbers have come
way down.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
And then I don't want.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
To hear from a twenty two year old that he
was tired from guarding Kyrie.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I like that sounded like an excuse to me.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Well, but he clearly was.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I'm sorry, Chris, I mean you saw it, right, Chris, No,
I don't think he was mentioning it as an excuse.
I think it was clear. Now you can you can
say you don't want to say it, Okay, I don't.
I'm just saying like, but he clearly was, which that's
the problem. Why two year old the most tired guy
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on the court?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I get he played forty minutes, but Sody, Kyrie and Luca.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
This is what I'm saying. And I'm just saying, Chris,
I some things you can hold to keep to yourself.
You might be, but I'm out there. And if I
really can't guard him or or I'm too tired to play,
then come out the game and let some fresh legs
come in.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Don't.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Don't after the fact, when you lose the game say
all the dead time. Because if they would have won
the game, I doubt he would have mentioned how tired
he was.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I don't doubt he would have.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I think Robed, that was not Anthony, what was going
on with you and the fourth man?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I was exhausted, y'all?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I was, It was Rob There was no denying that.
And again you still can argue what you don't even
need to say that. That's fine. But the dude spent
and I think I think he was physically but also
emotionally spent. And I actually think the Timberwolves as a
whole were emotionally spent from that series with Denver.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean, and that's what they have to be careful about.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Rop that can come off for a team that's never
been this far right, it is not used to getting
this type of attention and all that to beat the
defending champions, that was like.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Almost we won it. We did it, yes, like you can.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
You can get yourself into an emotional state where you
think that's the championship. And so I thought they were
spent and they weren't ready, and their coach saying so
to day after the film session, they weren't ready for
Game one and they paid for it.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Look, I don't want to rip I'm not ripping Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I don't care about like the last four games, he's
only average twenty whatever you said it was, you can
to me you.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
It's about winning, period.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
And Jordan, Michael Jordan has some series where he wasn't
the most efficient, but they won I think one finals.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
He may have shot forty one percent, but.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
He hasn't won anything yet but I'm just saying, like
I'm not saying a game but say, oh he's he's
an imposter.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
All are about winning, and they won two of those games.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
But all I'm saying is, as time goes on, you
start to look like like he started out like a
house of fire. He's not gonna it just means that
he's normal and he's not going to be able.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
To He better not be tired. I mean that that's what.
He can't be tired. And so yeah, I just I
got I I what here's.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
The quickly rob before we go to the callers. He
is somewhere.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I think his his approach to the game is in
between Jordan Kobe and Lebron, meaning Jordan Kobe were looking
to score every time Len is really looking to pass
or make the right play.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I think Edwards is somewhere in between there.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
And because I love the fact that he plays in
the system, that he doesn't just always force the action,
that he's looking for his teammates and if somebody has
it cooking, he's more than willing to give it to
him and he'll make you know, double team, he's gonna
pass the ball. I like that, but there are times
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and he's got to learn this, and as a twenty
two year old he's learning. He's young, he's in that process,
but he's gotta learn quickly within this series, to me
that sometimes I'm the best player on my team, if
not the best player on the court, and sometimes I
just need to take over a game if I can,
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and I need to try. And I think that's what
he has to learn Rob, that he can take There's
times where you that guy, you are the face of
the Timberwolves. You might not be the of the league,
you're the face of the Timberwolves. So sometimes I need
you to just say, you know what, I'm taking over.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
And that's what I think he's got to learn.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Brushad and Rob Harker.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Jalen Rose, Rob who of course was a very good player.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Member of the iconic Fab five and has done some
great good broadcasting over the years too. He tweeted this
out yesterday, Rob, dear usborn players put in that work
tirelessly and show discipline. Otherwise NBA jobs are.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Become mean extinct.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
If that isn't a shout out to the international takeover,
I don't know what is.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And this is a little different. This is more of
a shot.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We'll spend more time talking about Jalen and what he said, Rob.
But Evan Turner, who played ten years in the NBA,
was a solid player, was not what he was supposed
to be right coming out of Ohio State. He was
a really a top player coming into that draft. Was
actually the second pick overall in twenty ten, but at
(01:31):
a decent NBA career. Here's what he said after the
Nuggets lost to the Timberwolves. And obviously the Nuggets rob
were led their best two players international Nikola jokicic of course,
of Serbia and Jamal Murray of Canada, and the top
player from Minnesota and top two players were American in
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Anthony Edwards and Carl Anthony town.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
But it's not like they don't have any Internet national players.
Let's not.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Rudy Gobert is their third probably a third best player.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I was gonna say, okay, let's not make it, but.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
They but you know what, that's that's why they they're
looking at them more as the Americans.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Anyway, here's what did you see this?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Rock? What Evan Turner posted on x NO. I just
saw the Jalen Rod stuff. Yeah, here's what Evan said.
I sound like a hater, but I don't want to
see Jokic play another game. It's like watching baseball. I
knew know that will stick under your crow.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Watching Evan Turner in his career was like watching baseball.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
How's that Evan Turner is now like He's the the
beautifire of the game.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
He's the guy who tells you how great it is
to watch what a three time MVP.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
A guy will put up forty.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Points in game six or like, you could say that
after they lost and it's fine, and you could say
you don't enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
He's not as exciting as ant Man.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I don't think you need to be a former basketball
player Chris to say that, but there's still something about
his game and what he's able to do, his passion
ability where he can score the basketball from everywhere.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I mean, it's different tastes for different people.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
That doesn't bother me as much, but the Jalen Rose
thing is something I'm definitely interested in them.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, let me.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Comment on Evan and then I want to hear you going, Jalen,
im look like you said, different tastes for different people, right,
different strokes for different folks. If you like high flying,
and I do, I prefer I mean Michael Jordan, I
think had the best looking game in the history of basketball.
Kyrie Irving with all the you know, the ball handling
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and the moves that he has, all that is exciting
to watch. So I do prefer that style, and I
have thought certain players were boring. I thought Tim Duncan, rob,
as great as he was, was certainly not an exciting
player to watch, right, But I think Jokic is actually
very fun to watch. His passing ability, the fact of
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a seven footer who's not even thin, he's a seventh
footer who's bulky, is bringing the ball up, running the point.
Essentially he is their point guard.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I know it's.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Jamal Murray technically, but the Nicola Jokic is their point
guard rob and I enjoy watching him. It's like Larry Bird.
He wasn't high flying, but he was fun to watch.
Now his passes were a little fancier, or you know,
some of them were.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Jokic can throw the fancy passes.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But I like watching Jokic, and I'm a little surprised
at an NBA player or ex NBA player who I
know the game, would say that it was not fun
to watch him.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I agree, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'm like, I get dunking and I'm not even trying
to rip Duncan, but jo Kics.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I'm surprised somebody that really knows the game.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Thinks Jo Kicic isn't fun to watch right, Not the
way he you just said it. He's a point guard,
a point center, Chris. The way he passes the basketball.
I mean, he does some stuff that's interesting. I look
and go, I can't believe he made that pass.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But seriously, he hit threes with hands in his face.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know, he scores at all levels, can even lead
the break, I mean, for goodness sake.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
So maybe Evan Turner would have hated watching Kareem abdul
Jabal because he did the same thing right, the skyhook,
and I would be like, why should he do anything
different like like that?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
You couldn't stop the shot, Chris, it was really good.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Why should shock shoot a sixteen foot stop.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
The dunk right? Stop dunking, Shock. That's boring, And we
get it.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
You're nine foot tall and you wear eight hundred pass
and nobody can stop you.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Why don't you go to the perimeter?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Oh man? All right?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Rob, So here, I know you want to comment on Jalen,
So have at it. The Jalen thing, I don't think.
I don't think it was ripping, but.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
It sounds good.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
But it ain't gonna have any effect because it ain't
stopping people from getting paid. It ain't gonna stop the
AAU Chris machine.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
People aren't going to adjust. They don't.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
They look at their individual they look at their individual
play and where they want to get to, and they
don't look and go, I want to be a better passer.
I want to have better skills and not score as
many points because I made the right basketball play. They're
not doing that because people are still getting paid. People
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want to put up their numbers, Chris, to have their
highlights and get there. They they're not going to run
and go do fundamentals because that's not going to get
them where they want to go. And even though we
talk about it in a number of European or foreign
players are now gonna be at the top of the draft.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Right is the two of the top three gonna be
four and three to the top.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Four, Yeah, something like that. And they don't look at
it like that doesn't affect me.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know, I'm still gonna be in the draft or
I'm gonna be a lottery pick. So they don't look
at it like that and go, oh, yeah, I need
to work on my passing and I'll score five less points,
right Chris, and be under twenty. But I'll have two
more assists, and I'll know how what's the right basketball
player to make?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Good luck with that, because I don't see that happening.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Look, I agree with you for the most part, Jalen Rose,
that's good, great advice.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It is great advice. It's needed. Rob Let's not.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean, how many how many players, ex players have
we had on the show who've been in denial.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Look, we were still the best in the world.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
We're still the best.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
What you need right there in denial? All right, So
I make Jalen sound in the alarm. I'm with you
for the most part. And I'm gonna add this. I
think a big like are the way we develop players
in our culture.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I don't mean Black culture, African American coulture.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I just can't American social media and the country as
a whole.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
If you are fifteen years old and a great player,
you're a celebrity. Right You're on social media. You probably
got over a million followers, Your highlights are being played
all over the place. People are gassing you up. You're
the man. You're probably people wanting you know, they don't
really ask for autographs as much now, but they want
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pictures everywhere you go, you're probably getting paid. You certainly
can get paid off your social media. You probably you
might be getting the nil deal. That is just not conducive.
Fifteen years old, you haven't made it to the NBA.
We've before all this social media rob there were tons
of guys who were awesome at fifteen and.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Never even either never made the NBA or when they
got there, they were subpar. Oh J. Mayo was supposed
to be the new hotness.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
He was then.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Decent career after one year at USC not even a
decent career.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
His career was cut short. We see that time and
time again.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And meanwhile in Serbia, in Slovenia, in Greece or wherever
it's in Europe, they are if you're fifteen and nice
rab you're playing with grown men, you're practicing twice a day.
You're being yelled at and really coached well by some
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hard nosed coach, and grown men are schooling you every
day in practice, and you don't get much playing time
in the real games. So that developed you much better
than if you think you all that and you about
to go to the NBA and be this great player.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
And so I agree with you on that and I
just added.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That rob to you what you said, but I will
here's what I'll throw in.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And I don't know if we'll respond to it or not.
But pride.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Do we do we?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Or I don't even know if it's pride, It might
just be desperation. I mean, like we need to wake up.
I hear what you're saying. You know, I think we
go ahead.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I just think, Chris, people are on the individual kick.
What you're saying makes sense if you are a part
of a team trying to do something and in that scheme, hey,
you gotta do better on this or that, or try
to play better.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
But to tell an individual player, but if you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Tell him, look, you might be great in California.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You're the tenth best player in America at your age,
or the fifth best or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
But you look at the best players.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
In the world, they're no longer married, Like you know,
I don't know the NBA, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I'm just saying it makes logical sense, Chris.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
But I just don't think people are wired that way
because they don't think it affects them.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
What does it have to do with me.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I'm not scoring less points then, they're gonna hold that
against me. I'm not taking less, you know what I mean,
Like like that's the way they look at it, like, oh,
well that's a smart guy. He made the right basketball
player and he did this, or oh then he he
takes care of the basketball away. Well it sounds good,
and I'm not saying it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, but I know to that point, and you're talking
about playing the quote unquote right way right, I don't
think we I think that's a problem in American basketball
in general that we agree play you know, one man
or two man basketball, high pick and roll at all
the levels now and you know, isolation and over there
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they're learning to play kind of five man ball. Although
Luca is as one on one as anybody. But I
just I think we do need our adults need to
wake up, Rob. The adults that teach the kids need
to wake up and start teaching them better and stop worrying.
You're talking about worrying about themselves. Yeah, a lot of coaches,
(12:21):
Rob are like, this is my meal ticket. I'm gonna
get on the bench at a major college because of
this kid, right, And you're not coaching him.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You're not teaching him.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
I went to the ball Brothers, not Lonzo. I went
to the Last two Ball. Remember I went to the
I went to the game. Oh yeah, there was Cherry.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Picking California, Leangelo and LaMelo.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
They with Cherry Pick and Chris they wouldn't even come
past half court. The other guys would rebound the ball
and throw it down to them. It was embarrassing. It
was embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
And look at them now.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I mean, Leangelo never was a great prospect, but he's
not in the NBA. LaMelo's in it, but his career
is on hold, and Linzo is injured, you know, and
who knows what his career is gonna be. So yeah,
but hopefully Rob desperate. I would say this before we
go to listeners. I think more players are more ex players. Rob,
(13:16):
the Ogs, Garnet's, the Paul Pierce's, guys like that.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
They need to start doing what Jalen did.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Now, you gotta do it in a way you and
I would say that some of these guys just don't care.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I don't don't do it in a way that's insulting
to the international rights because I mean, if they.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Gonna come over here, be better. God bless them.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You know, it's nothing against them at all, but it's
just saying, look, we need to step up.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
This is a game that was created in America.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
We've dominated it for you know, one hundred years, and
now we're losing a grip on it. So let's start
playing better and teaching better. I just want more of
these guys, the ogs, to come out and start saying that.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
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Speaker 5 (14:50):
Donnie Wahlberg, Oh guy, Donnie Wahlberg of course, actor, singer, producer, director.
I know you watch them on Blue Bloods and all that,
and you watch them at the game and Boston. I mean,
you got so much airtime, Donnie, my man, how are.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
You you know? We needed we needed good energy last night.
We needed it. I was, uh, you know, my phone
was really quiet. All the self experiences are being real
quiet until that three pointed by Jalen Brown. And then
I looked down on my phone at and during the
during the timeout, yep, I had nine thousand techs. Wow, man,
half of them saying let's go Celtics. The other half's saying,
(15:26):
your team so lucky.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
And you know what, Donnie, we were talking earlier on
the show, and I believe this.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Sure you got to have some luck.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
But to me, the Celtics winning that game when they
had no business winning it, they took advantage of it
and they made big plays Jalen Brown Tatum in overtime.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
That's what good teams do. Don't you feel good about that?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
What they do whenever whenever teams put it this way,
if they lost the game, what would everyone say? You know,
they won the game, they hold out, Jalen made the
shot to save the game, and Tatum found his rhythm
in overtime and carried them in overtime. And that's that's
what great players do. You know, you can't give a
great player a second chance, and Tatum got a second chance.
(16:13):
And you know, I would say the great teams started.
And I'm not comparing the Celtics. Certainly we haven't won
anything yet with this with this team, so I'm not comparing.
But you know, when teams win championships, you need luck.
You need to take advantage of opportunities. You can't lose
games like this, you know, because honestly, you said the
Celtics had no business winning the game. Really, Indiana had
(16:36):
no business being in the game the way it started
and the way the Celtics went back up in the third.
But we just kind of we got lulled into playing
their game and that was always going to be a
dangerous situation. With Indiana. You know, if you're scoring seventy
points at halftime against them, even if you're winning, your
playing their game. And we were sixty four points. I
think we played their game and we got away with it.
(16:57):
But you know, great teams and championship team have to
win these games.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Speaking of the Pacers, we know most people didn't want them,
but they wanted the Knicks against the Celtics. Of course,
I know the networks wanted it. But my point is
the Pacers they can shoot a little bit. They shout
six against the Knicks and what was it last night,
fifty five? I mean, can we give them an out
credit because they shoot the basketball really well.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
They're a good team. You know, they went to the
midseason tournaments finals.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, you know, they lost.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
They'd beat Boston to go there, and I think that
gave them a lot of beliefs that they could beat
the Celtics in this series. You know, I think they
didn't show up in the finals of the n season tournament,
but they really they're a tough team and if you
don't slow them down, you can lose to them. And honestly,
I thought the Knicks were a phenomenal story this year.
(17:53):
And I really was, you know, hoping it would be
New York Boston because I'm in New York filming Blue Bloods,
and I could go to all the games and I
would have fun, you know, getting in arguments with everyone
on the crew of Blue Bloods because they're all New
York fans. But I thought Indiana would wear New York
out because New York had so many injuries, and he
(18:14):
just you know, if they if they got to try
to keep up with the team, eventually it was gonna
wear them down. And in many ways it did, you know,
many ways, the New York just ran out of gas.
And they probably could have won the series. But they
just ran out of gas because the team does not stop,
and if you let up on d they can run
you right off the court.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
All right, here's what people are going to say about
your Celtics, Well, they should get to the finals. Everybody
else was hurt in the Eastern Conference, right, the Knicks
were beat up the Miami, Right, they would beat up
who else. Uh Giannis was beat up or heard uh
everybody everybody in the East. But that has no effect
(18:54):
on what you're doing. All you can do, right is
play who's available and who's out there. But how important
is this for the Celtics to have a chance.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And do they have to win?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Donnie like like because if they get out of the East,
you can say that. But they have more experience than
the Mavericks and the Tea Wolves. Why shouldn't they be
favorite and why shouldn't we believe that the Celtics are
finally going.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
To get over the hurdle.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Well, first of all, Rob, I love this new kind
of gentler. Rob, You're being so good for my Boston team.
I can't even believe what I'm hearing.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I'm just being honest.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, because the Celtics hate is so real. Look, I
think that they definitely if they're fully healthy. And again,
we're missing one of our key players. You know, the
missing for Zingis is huge.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
No, that's a big loss.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Yeah, it's making Al play more minutes than he wants to.
It's putting Luke Cornette in some tough situations. It's putting
a lot of pressure on the team. But I think
the Celtics can and should win the championship this year.
I think they're the best team. I think it's going
to be tough whoever comes out of the West and
they still got to finish off Indiana. This is we
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only got one game down with them. But you know,
you can't control who you play, and this is a
very unusual year in the NBA, Like the Celtics really
haven't had any competitions so much so that even like
talking heads in Boston are like, this isn't even fun,
this is boring. We're just winning by twenty five every night.
I'm like, well, you are you mad that we're winning?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
It's like, we can't control who we're playing. It's you know,
and then we get a good game last night, it's
a buzzer beater, and everyone's mad that it was a
closed game. I mean, you can't win right now. This team,
I think they overachieved early in their careers, Tatum and
Brown in some of the pad and you could say
the same thing about Lebron's teams that you know, who
(20:54):
did they play. They played the Celtics in the conference
finals one year with Kyrie was out for the Sea
Bordon Haywood was out for the season, you know, and
they played a bunch of rookies and all the flogs.
They took them a seven games. So if you can
only play who was in front of you. The Celtics
are doing what they gotta do. They've had a few
messy games and hopefully, you know, last night was a
(21:16):
messy game and they just finally won one of those.
And they'll just they'll get through this series and Porzingis
will be healthy and I think they should be able
to win a championship. Their shit, it's not going to
be easy because they don't give championships away. If they did,
everyone would have one, no.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Year, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I'll guess Donnie Wahlberg, of course, actor, singer, producer, director,
at a star of blue Bloods on the CBS and
let me, let me get let me get hit this Donnie.
So everybody loves aunt Mann and with good reason. Obviously
he's twenty two years old. They got all the Michael
Jordan comparisons and they're in the Western Conference finals right
that people didn't think that they'd be able to be
(21:53):
Denver and get there. But you know, they're making it
like we haven't seen a young guy due to kind
of things that a man did. But I hate to
remind people, but did Jason Tatum do the same thing
like four years ago? I mean, I think people have
forgotten about Tatum start and what he's been able to
(22:14):
accomplish in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Absolutely, I think Tatum and Jaylen Brown have done so much,
and look, you know, there's been circumstances that have kept
them from winning. I mean, I think they should have
beaten Golden State. I don't think we were deep enough
in the finals that year. I think, you know, a
couple of Sam Howser threes, if he would have played more,
(22:38):
might have got us over the top in some of
those games. But you know, I think people just sometimes
what happens is, you know, we get into the debating
about sports so much, and everybody was like jokers, this
player of.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Hello, yeah, we got you, Donnie ahead finishing.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Sorry, I'm so sorry, I'm in I'm in the Lincoln funnel.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Do you see Chris got stuck in the tunnel.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
He's stuck somewhere because I can't even believe it didn't
show up for this conversation. I know, well, it's okay
because he usually defends me, But now you're being so
nice to my Celtics. We don't even need. But I'm
just gonna say, you know, with An he's playing incredible.
You know, sometimes when we put teams too high on
a pedestal, then we're at surprise when they lose. Like
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everyone said, Denver's gonna win, Denver's gonna win the championship.
Celtics can't handle Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver. And then all
of a sudden it was like, oh, wait a minute.
They lost in the second round to a team that
no one gave credit to. And you know, they got
Minnesota if you look at it on paper. I mean,
I didn't necessarily pick them to win the series, but
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that's the playoffs built teams structurally they got They're built
for half courts, they built for interior defense. You know.
That's that's a tough team to play in the playoffs,
and they were kind of built to beat Denver, you know,
and they're gonna be tough on whoever they play. I
don't think Dallas is going to beat them. You're wrong,
you know. I didn't think Dallas are going to beat Okay, see,
(24:12):
so who knows. But regardless, I think if the Celtics
get healthy and Poorzingis comes back, and the longer we
keep winning games and don't have to rush him back,
the better chance we have to actually take advantage of
him coming back, because you know it could be one
of those moments drop where they rush him back, he
hurts his ankle long term, and now we can't even
(24:33):
compete next year, you know. So it's they got to
hopefully keep him out as long as possible and then
bring him back when they need him, hopefully for the finals.
Hopefully we can beat Indiana without and it's not going
to be easy, but hopefully we can at least win
a few more games before we got to bring him back.
And then I'll take my guys over any team if
they're fully healthy this year, and if they don't win,
(24:54):
is it going to be disappointment? It's going to be
break up the Celtics, I don't think.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
So you they don't win, Okay, now he I'm gonna
be mean. If they don't win, they got to do
something you can't keep bring running it back like like
it's set up for them a a pretty easy road
through the East and then the West with these young
you know, different teams and teams that don't have the experience,
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haven't been to the finals, like the Celtics. Like this,
and I get it with poor Zingis being out, but
other people got people banged up or not playing.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
This to me.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Seems like the Celtics year. If you don't win it here,
when are you winning it?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Well, that's a fair question. It's a fair question, but
I'm not sure what more is out there. I mean,
we broke it up last year. You know, many people thought,
keep Rob Williams, you know, Keith Barcus smart, pick up
one more player and we're good. And you know, the
rosters completely turned upside down. I think, you know, last
(25:54):
night a lot of people and I'm answering your question,
but I'm referencing last night as a way to answer that.
I think last night's game showed, you know, Drew Holidays lunch.
He was so clutched up the game, so many little plays.
He scored a lot of points. He made so many
great plays that really kept us from blowing the game,
just takeaways and loose balls. I mean, all these clutch
(26:18):
plays that don't really get recorded in the statuet, although
his stat line was pretty incredible. You know, if he
plays the way he can play and brings that that
leadership that you know, we we traded for him for
and for Zingis is healthy and and and the bench
guys are playing good. I will say one thing. We're
not the deepest team. Everyone's like Celtics are so deep.
(26:38):
We're really we're only playing like seven guys right now
in the playoffs. I mean, we're not the deepest team.
But hopefully, if everyone's healthy and playing good, we will
have the depth and we'll be able to pull this
thing together. And I'm not worried about next year. We
got to focus on this year. If they don't win it,
we'll deal with next year. Next year.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I hear you, Donnie, and we always appreciate you, my man.
Thank you so much for giving us some time. We'll
be seeing you on TV jumping around and uh, when
they get to the finals, we'll talk to you.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And if they win it, you know we're gonna talk
to you, Donnie.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
I look forward to it. It's always great talking about YEP.
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Speaker 1 (27:24):
Last night, the Dallas Mavericks go into Minnesota and steal
Game one of the Western Conference Finals and along with it,
home court advantage with a one O eight one oh
five w over the Minnesota Timberwolves, and uh, the stars
from the Mavericks showed up. Kyrie gives them thirty, Luca
(27:48):
gives them thirty three.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
And it was Chris because it was Kyrie Early and
Luca Lagett, you know what I mean, Like it was perfect.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, and they tend to seem like they do that
usually it's Luca, you know, kind of earlier and Kyrie
lay but yeah, they I mean, it's great to have
two incredible stars and offensive juggernauts like that to rely on.
But for the Timberwolves, Rob their two main guys did
(28:16):
not deliver. Carl Anthony town Towns go six for twenty
with sixteen points, and Anthony Edwards, who, to his credit,
Rob did have eleven rebounds, a team high.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
And eight assists.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Actually, both the eleven rebounds and the eight assists matched
game highs with a couple of players from Dallas. But
he had a team or He had nineteen points, not
a team high, but he shot six for sixteen. Robin
sixteen of his shots or twelve of his sixteen shots
were three point attempts.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
So what did you take from last night's game?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
And this is not Chris. I think he's an outstanding talent.
He's got a future ahead of him. But I think
this was another example, and we've seen this now of late.
He started the postseason like unbelievable forty point games. Everybody's
random raven. People want to crown the ant man as
(29:16):
the face of the NBA and all that.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I'm here to say, punk the breaks.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Anthony Edwards is not not the face of the NBA.
He's a tremendous player. His team is having a fantastic run.
They have a chance to get to the NBA Finals.
I'm not writing them off. I'm not writing him off.
But let's just deal with the facts, not the feelings.
(29:45):
We understand you want an American to be that guy
and to hold that banner for the NBA and for
us to be proud that a.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Bro bro is leading the NBA.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
And it ain't a guy from some country we've never
been into and we'll never get to.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I've actually been to Serbia.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah, you, but nobody else.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
And but the facts remain, Chris.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
He's now had under twenty points in four of his
last six games. The Big Game seven a no show,
offensively six for twenty four. I mean, that's not a
big time performance in a big game. It gets glossed
over because they won and other people stepped up. And
that's all I'm saying is like the rhetoric and the
(30:38):
love affair and all that do not match the stat sheet.
They not right now. And I'm not Chris. I am
not discounting him. I'm not saying he's not a great
player and has a beautiful future. He's twenty two, but
he is not. Can I spell us for you, Rob
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g and all? The face of the NBA.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Okay, Look, you make some good points there, and I
think we have to be honest, Rob when we say
the face of the NBA, that's one guy, and correct
me if you think I'm wrong. Rob, I'm going back to,
like the late seventies, the guys that have been the
(31:31):
face of the NBA.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Doctor j.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
In the eighties, I'll give you Magic and Bird, then
Michael Jordan and then Lebron James. Now around them or
in years in between them, there are faces of the NBA.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Between Jordan and Lebron. Rob, I would.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Say there was Shaq, there was Kobe. You know, there's
a group of guys as Lebron. During Lebron's tenure, Steph
k D and some other guys have been, you know,
kind of those secondary faces when Jordan was ruling. Rob Barkley,
(32:24):
David Robinson, Elijah and Patrick Ewing those were some of
these secondary faces. I think, Rob, right now, the notion
that Anthony Edwards was at least you know, to this
year or next year, was going to be the face
of the NBA, I always think that was kind of
(32:48):
a misnomer. I think he'll be one of the faces
right now. Those faces, Rob, Luca, I mean, you know
you still got the old guard, Steph, Lebron, KD.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Right, they still are part of the face.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah right, And they still might be the face, even
though they're not even in the playoffs at this point.
But that next group, Rob is Luca and Yo Kitchen Uh.
I wouldn't even I don't know if I say emb
just because he never goes deep into the playoffs, but
Jason Tatum and and Yes, Anthony Edwards, Yannis, yes D
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and And I think what's interesting, Rob about this era
of parody that we really are going through, is will
one of these guys emerge as the face?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I mean, you have to be a dominant. Look at
the guys I'm talking about. Lebron won four.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And was winning what he went four MVPs, Jordan won
six and was at five MVPs. Magic and Bird won
eight championships between them and six MVPs.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
So like.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I so, I don't think Anthony Edwards was about to
be the face. Now, look, if they win this championship, Rob,
and they win next year too, then maybe right, but
I don't think it was he was going to Just
even if he wins this championship, is he gonna be
the only face? I wouldn't go that far because I
think Rob, with these guys I've mentioned, they were clearly
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the best players in the league within a little bit
of a gap in between them and the.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Second game, and he doesn't. He doesn't have that Chris
and he's.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Not that now I agree. Look, I don't Michael Jordan himself.
As you know, Rob text me we were texting it.
He said he sees similarity. So there are some similarities
to him and Jordan. But I don't think Rob, and
maybe I'll be proven wrong, I don't think he'll ever
be like on the level of a Jordan.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I know, I don't think you're wrong.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
I just think that that's a lofty goal, even a
guy like Lebron who has had so much success.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Well you would say, I would say, and we both
obviously think Jordan's go.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
But I would say Lebron is on that level, like he's.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
On a conversation, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
But I don't see Anthony Evers being like a top
ten all time player, right.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I just don't see it either.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
And my point, Chris is just like, if you wanted
to be excited about his first eight playoff games, Chris, right,
he averaged thirty two point one points and he shot
fifty six percent from the field. That's that's why he
got everybody's attention. And he's an exciting player, right his
style of play yep, okay, But in the last four games,
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he's averaging twenty points, Chris and shooting thirty four point
seven percent. I mean, like, like the numbers have come
way down.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
And then I don't want.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
To hear from a twenty two year old that he
was tired from guarding Kyrie.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I like that sounded like an excuse to me.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Well, but he clearly was.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I'm sorry, Chris, I mean you saw it, right, Chris, No,
I don't think he was mentioning it as an excuse.
I think it was clear. Now you can you can
say you don't want to say it, Okay, I don't.
I'm just saying like, but he clearly was, which that's
the problem. Why two year old the most tired guy
(36:16):
on the court?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I get he played forty minutes, but Sody, Kyrie and Luca.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
This is what I'm saying. And I'm just saying, Chris,
I some things you can hold to keep to yourself.
You might be, but I'm out there. And if I
really can't guard him or or I'm too tired to play,
then come out the game and let some fresh legs
come in.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Don't.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Don't after the fact, when you lose the game say
all the dead time. Because if they would have won
the game, I doubt he would have mentioned how tired
he was.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I don't doubt he would have.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I think Robed, that was not Anthony, what was going
on with you and the fourth man?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I was exhausted, y'all?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I was, It was Rob There was no denying that.
And again you still can argue what you don't even
need to say that. That's fine. But the dude spent
and I think I think he was physically but also
emotionally spent. And I actually think the Timberwolves as a
whole were emotionally spent from that series with Denver.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean, and that's what they have to be careful about.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Rop that can come off for a team that's never
been this far right, it is not used to getting
this type of attention and all that to beat the
defending champions, that was like.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Almost we won it. We did it, yes, like you can.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
You can get yourself into an emotional state where you
think that's the championship. And so I thought they were
spent and they weren't ready, and their coach saying so
to day after the film session, they weren't ready for
Game one and they paid for it.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Look, I don't want to rip I'm not ripping Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I don't care about like the last four games, he's
only average twenty whatever you said it was, you can
to me you.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
It's about winning, period.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
And Jordan, Michael Jordan has some series where he wasn't
the most efficient, but they won I think one finals.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
He may have shot forty one percent, but.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
He hasn't won anything yet but I'm just saying, like
I'm not saying a game but say, oh he's he's
an imposter.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
All are about winning, and they won two of those games.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
But all I'm saying is, as time goes on, you
start to look like like he started out like a
house of fire. He's not gonna it just means that
he's normal and he's not going to be able.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
To He better not be tired. I mean that that's what.
He can't be tired. And so yeah, I just I
got I I what here's.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
The quickly rob before we go to the callers. He
is somewhere.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I think his his approach to the game is in
between Jordan Kobe and Lebron, meaning Jordan Kobe were looking
to score every time Len is really looking to pass
or make the right play.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I think Edwards is somewhere in between there.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
And because I love the fact that he plays in
the system, that he doesn't just always force the action,
that he's looking for his teammates and if somebody has
it cooking, he's more than willing to give it to
him and he'll make you know, double team, he's gonna
pass the ball. I like that, but there are times
(39:29):
and he's got to learn this, and as a twenty
two year old he's learning. He's young, he's in that process,
but he's gotta learn quickly within this series, to me
that sometimes I'm the best player on my team, if
not the best player on the court, and sometimes I
just need to take over a game if I can,
(39:49):
and I need to try. And I think that's what
he has to learn Rob, that he can take There's
times where you that guy, you are the face of
the Timberwolves. You might not be the of the league,
you're the face of the Timberwolves. So sometimes I need
you to just say, you know what, I'm taking over.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
And that's what I think he's got to learn.
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