August 31, 2024 • 38 mins
Chris debates whether Tua Tagovailoa deserves to be ranked higher than guys like CJ Stroud and Brock Purdy in the NFL QB Tiers list, tells us if a Super Bowl 3-peat would cement Patrick Mahomes as the GOAT over Tom Brady and explains why it’s starting to feel like Dak Prescott is finally fed up with Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys ‘circus’.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple. With
Chris Brusa and Ron Harker.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
BJ.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
We were just talking about Mike Sando's annual QB tiars
article that he does every year right before the season.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Is a great read, a great list.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
He talks to fifty people around the league, scouts, talent evaluators, executives, coaches, etc.
And they rank the top quarterbacks in the league. And
we talked earlier about.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
C. J.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Stroud who was ranked number eight, and you had a
problem with him being in that second tier. Dak Prescott,
I'm sorry, brock Party is ranked twelve. He's also Tier two,
moved up from tier four. Obviously you understand why he
was Tier four going into this past season, but now
(01:21):
he's Tier two, number twelve. And Tua, who just signed
the big deal with the Miami Dolphins, is he's the
first quarterback in Tier three, and that is he's ranked
fifteenth in the league one spot, which is interesting, ahead
of Trevor Lawrence who's at sixteen.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And you.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It sounds like you think Tua should be in the
second tier. And also I'm guessing you think he should
be ahead of Rock Party.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Share your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Not so much, Brock Party. This isn't more what brock Perdy.
This is more about CJ. Stroud Party. I told you
I'm off the I'm off the train, off the bandwagon
of banging on Brock Party.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Every quarterback needs weapons.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
And of course the first thing was, well, he's got
right exactly. My homes is the one guy. Well, he
still has the game's best tight end. Let's just make
sure we keep right player. He still has the game's
best tight end, and he's got the game's best head
coach and the game's best home field advanage.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
He's got some he's got some stuff that helps out.
You have a running game.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Absolutely well, yes, I was about to say, and a
great defense, probably the best best defensive interior lineman in
the league and Chris Jones, so he's got plenty of help.
He doesn't do it by hisself. But he's still just
so magical. He still he's still just so dope that
you the game's never over. You don't leave the couch,
you don't go get more chips. This guy's gonna end
this thing and you're gonna miss the end of it.
(02:46):
But so, but everybody's got to have weapons, and it
just feels like that only certain quarterbacks are allowed to
have them. When other quarterbacks have it, then it's the
weapons and not the quarterback. And just on tour real fast.
And I don't because this has been the talk for
the last two years. But yeah, I believe tier two
number one in yours last year, number two, and completion
percentage by point two, completion percentage points behind Deck Prescott
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almost seventy percent fifth and QB tenth in the QB rating.
Like I'm just trying to figure out what does he
have to do to be considered better than the guy
who Now you want to talk about teams beating teams
or guys beating guy. Do you know who CJ. Stroud
was beating up on last year? Okay, they beat they
beat Carolina Atlanta and the Jet the Jets they lost too.
(03:29):
Where he had a robust six points okay, and went
ten of twenty three in that game.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
There was also another game and Philly lost to the Jets.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
We're not talking about them teams though, We're just talking
about the Houston Texas right now. They also lost to
the Carolina Panthers and Bryce Young, where he put up
another robust thirteen points. This idea, I know, on paper,
you can look at numbers that go, oh Man greatest
quarterback season in history. But when you put the tape on,
there's still plenty of deficien tapes.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You know, like the tape. But CJ. Stroud didn't say that,
like the tam what you said.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You put it on, you see deficient, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That doesn't mean that I don't like them. But I
still see deficiencies.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I still see the deficiencies and oos and two is
my guy, but I still see some things that he
needs to improve on.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's just being a real fan, not being anough.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
This ain't a bad of course, everybody can improve about that,
but it's about a tier two quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
He is better than he has had one.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
First of all, to Joe, you can stay healthy, all right.
He showed it one year out of four times all right,
so I need to see more about you. That's why
I was like and there are certain times we talked
about it with the Cowboys. A lot of times you
should pay the guy earlier because the price is only going.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Real quick, though, Chris, Let's make sure we also remember
to tell those stories. C J.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Stroud miss two games last year for two games, that's
not why it doesn't matter to us.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Been through it's still too so I get it, but
you can't compare right now CJ.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Stroud's injury history to two. That's what I'm doing to
would win. I'm telling you the story. C J.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Stroud was not an injury problem yester year. He was
ready for the playoffs. He played the fifteen out of
seventeen games, so it wasn't injuries were not an issue
with him. They were an issue. They've been an issue
with TUA for seventy percent of his career. So I
want to see him have one other full healthy season
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before I go ahead and anoint him.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Secondly, beat some good teams.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Dude is one in six, and it's not just that
he don't win against good teams. His numbers plummet, his
passer rating plummets, his touchdown, the interception radio ratio plummets.
He doesn't play well against these good teams, one in
six last hold on, he was one in six last
year against playoff teams. And then on top of that,
(05:59):
he doesn't get it done in cold weather. And I
ain't even talking about freezing. I'm talking about forty five
degrees in below. He's going six in his career. Okay,
So these are all the.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Issues I had.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And he's very good on schedule, and this is why
I like Rock Purty better than him. Party can make better,
is better off schedule. Perty obviously on schedule two, much
like Toua, but it's better off schedule. He can scramble more,
he can run better, he can make plays out of.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
The pocket better, in my view.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So I just think, Look, I'm not I don't want
to necessarily kill Tua.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I don't think I'm not sold yet.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And I would not have paid him this year, and
I would have gladly paid him more next year if
he stays healthy this season and plays really well.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I agree. I agree with this year.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Pay him this year before it gets too expensive next
year because.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It would be more, and I get it, but I
would be willing to do because I'm not. If I'm
not sure the guy, I will wait and pay more
once he proves.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
But they are I don't think he's proving him to
Mike McDaniel in the front office are shore on him?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
We don't have to be sure. It doesn't matter. If
I'm sure, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
If you're shore on him, it does mean something because
they're the guys I mean, check pay.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But it doesn't mean he's a great quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
No, but you said you said showing them like believe
in them, like sold on them. They're sold on them.
That's why they went ahead and paid if they weren't
sold on them, Chris, they didn't let him play on
this last year deal and let him become a freegi
and they hold on them all they want and working
from I mean, there are a lot of teams sold
on on mediocre quarterbacks or quarterbacks that they think you're
better than he is.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And look, I'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
If I'm a mediocre quarter I'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
He's better than mediocre.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I wasn't just saying him, but I would be fine
if he goes out there and proves me wrong. But
you address what I said, beating good teams winning in
cold weather and doing something off schedule.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Okay, porry, So let me talk the teams.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I'll tell you Baltimore twice, excuse me, Baltimore, Philly, Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Twice and Buffalo twice.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
So you're talking Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and and uh no, no,
but you're talking to teams, but you're using the quarter back.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Let me pretty good. No, hold on, hold on, you were.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Having a discussion, all right, now, listen what you bring
up those teams like, well, you're not expected to beat them.
Buffalo's in that freaking division. You got just what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
You don't believe in him and sold on them, but
you want him to go beat Pat Mahomes twice in
one year.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
What you're saying, I want to know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He hasn't played well against good teams, and you you saying, well,
you you're kind of saying it like, well, how's he supposed.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
To beat Buffalo? How's he supposed to beat Ball?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Where are they going in ten and seven every year
and out in the first round?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Well, no, they were eleven and six last year. Number one,
they choked the season away, and when you lose your
own when you're off, it's that season.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I'm telling I'm a fan.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I tell you they choked the season away when they
when your offensive line gets decimated like that, you lose
three starters late in the year and you lose both
your rush is they're signing guys off the street late
in the year to come in and rush the quarterback.
No one's gonna be successful late in the year when
you're doing that. The cold stuff I give you been
a dolphin fam all.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I just.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I've been hearing it. I've been hearing that my whole life.
About the weather. I can't defend the weather. They're gonna
have to change that narrative themselves. But when we talk
about Tua, like I said, it's funny how it becomes
Tua can't do this, Tua can't do that. When we're
talking to team sport and the reason why I name
these teams that you're saying they're laws to. You're talking
upper echelon teams that a lot of teams in the
(09:41):
NFL and a lot of quarterbacks can't be Once again,
Josh Allen is in Tier one with mahomes by this
list I don't agree with it. But by this list,
you're asking two of to play two of the top
three quarterbacks four games, and he's supposed to beat them
by himself.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
That's not how this is goal. The goal is by
him South.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That's how you got Todd reek Hill, he got Jaylen Walla,
he got all exactly.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So you're answered there, you bottom there, you know you're
answering my course right there.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It's a team game. Why is it when it comes
to tool is he can't do this? He can't do that?
Is that just a quarters Chris? I just know how
we were, Chris.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I just gave you, no dude it Chris, I just
gave you the teams and names that CJ.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Stroud couldn't be you making excuses for him to.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
The he looks scored ten points then when he went
to the twenty three.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That's not a good day, Chris. Okay, so he had
a bad game too, He's had a few bad games.
That won the only bad game, Chris.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
He threw four hundred and forty yards and went sixteen
to twenty four and put up thirteen points against the
worst team in.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
The league in the Panthers. So does I'm saying this,
not c J.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Stroud come on, does not have Tye hold On, does
not have Tyreek Hill, does not have Jaylen Walla, does
not have Mike McDaniel calling plays for him.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Did not have that run.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
They had one of the worst run games in the
league and had one of the best.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You can't even fix your mouth to compare to Tua. Please,
you know, and Tua he did.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
C J.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Be went to the playoffs and crushed a Cleveland team
and bo and beat Joe Feloff.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
On that hole. Eveland Road wins one. And it wasn't
at home. He beat Joe Flacco, he beat Josh, He
beat the Cleveland Browns. He didn't beat Joe. He beat
the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And you want to sit up here and make excuses
for Tua. You want to act like he playing one
on one against Lamar, one on one against Mahomes, one
on one against Josh Allen. No, like you said, it's
a team sport. Beat that defense. And he hasn't shown
that he can do it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
He gonna show it this year.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, he gonna show it.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
He does. We're gonna We're gonna revisit. This one is
the c J.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Stroud is not better than to a Tagaba Loyd. Y'all
need to stop that. And I just met and I
just gave the metrics that we're talking about. Who they played,
who they played against. I'm giving you teams. They beat
garbage to Chris, they beat garbage too.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
They didn't be No. They beat Pittsburgh. Some guy Pittsburgh Burgh,
Pittsburgh win.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
No quarterback with an overrated running back in was a
ten win team last year.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Don't do that. Don't do that. CV.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, they beat hold On, hold On, they beat Tampa
Bay playoff team.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
They beat Cincinnati. All right? Do the Dolphins get credit
for being dollars? That's one that was one good win.
I'm just six bad losses when they played the other
good team. Do they get credit for? CV is all
about but that one win. That was a good win.
But I need more of that. All right, You and
I we're gonna be on this all year long.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Man, expect your phone text message to blow up every
time Tua beat a good team this year.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Expect Tua and the Dolphins the breakdancers as I call them,
They will go out there and put up numbers, a
light show, a circus. It'll be Xanadu when they playing
the Tomato Cans in the league. But bring a good team,
bring some bullies, bring some rough down there.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
See what they prediction, a predicted record and how far
they go this year?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Put it on right now. I got them third in
the a f C East third, a record third.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I got Jets winning the af C East Buffalo second,
Miami third.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
But I got all you drinking out water in BALI
use drinking out water in Bali.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
The Jets are not winning that division. The Jets are
stack baby, The Jets are not winning.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
That thing is gonna far that hard y'all are falling
into the Aaron Rodgers that that thing is going to fall.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
All Shadgers has to do is be solid. You don't
even have to be like m vpr okay with that defense,
with those skill positions. And I like the the improved
offensive line. You didn't like the no no.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I like the defense. I do like the defense.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I didn't like the offensive line. Two tackles over the
age of thirty one and what haven't it? But they
got I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Know about that.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I think they can handle the injuries. Well, you got
the Jets winning the division. I didn't hear it in
the division.
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You did trolling a rolling last night.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I did.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And one of your topics was or questions was about
the ESPN poll of players. It was one hundred players,
one hundred and three players, types of questions about quarterbacks,
most underrated, most overrated, so on and so forth, And
one of the questions they were asked is who's the
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goat the greatest quarterback of all time? Eighty five of
the respondents said Tom Brady, a few said someone else.
They didn't tell us who. That makes me think maybe
they were jokes. You know that they got through in
all types of crazy names.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But seven said Patrick.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Mahomes, and one player anonymously, of course, said if Mahomes
wins his third straight and becomes the first quarterback ever
to win three straight Super Bowls, and the first team,
of course, would be the Chiefs, then that changes everything.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
So I want to ask you.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Martin Weiss, where are you right now on the goat
conversation in the NFL? And tell me where you've got
Mahomes ranked and what would it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Take for him to become the go Will a three
peak do it?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Because obviously they're on the cusp, they have a great chance.
I think they're better on paper than they were last year.
Even though they lost Lagerius Snead, they got some there.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I think they strengthened their receiving corps, which will be big.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
They're definitely better on offense than they were last year,
probably not on defense.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
But the thing about the defense is it was it
had a lot of young players, so those young players
that remained should get better.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So that's kind of what I mean there.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But go ahead and share what your thoughts are on
the goat and where Mahomes ranks and what you think
he needs to do to surpass Brady.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
So I think when we're looking at who's got the goat, right,
the greatest of all time, there's a ton of two
avenues look at it. One accomplishments, the other one being ability, right.
I think when you look at and I think obviously
the combination of those two really makes your goat argument unassailable.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
When you look at a guy like Tom.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Brady, he's got all the accolades in the world, and
on top of that one a ton of games, right.
But when you look at a guy like Patrick Mahomes,
he's got a lot of the same accolades. But if
he gets this three peat, in my opinion, there's gonna
be the prevailing sentiment. There will be a very very
loud minority, and one that grows exponentially at the end
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of the season. If they end up pulling off a
three p in the Kansas City Chief, be huge.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I agree, I big like that next year, and we
talked about it last night.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
It'll be close to half, if not half, or maybe
more than half to say Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Is to go.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Yeah, I think if you pull off that three feet
you're probably looking at it close to a sixty forty
split between voters sixty of them being Tom, forty of
them being Mahomes, with Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Being under thirty.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Still, right, So you'd have to think eventually Patrick Mahomes
is going to end up taking that title. Right now,
I would actually probably still have him behind Joe Montana
in terms of accolades right, in terms of the straight accolades.
But I'll look at ability. To me, just Patrick Mahomes
is up there with some of the most talented people
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have ever seen it throw a football in terms of
they're just football ability. I mean, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers,
that's in that class. But when you're talking about greatest
of all time, you also have to combine that with winning, right,
That's what changes you from just being you know, a
guy who's got a great arm talent.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You have all the ability in the world if you
don't win exact accounplishments. I mean, Aaron Rodgers is I mean,
until Mahomes came along, you could argue he was the.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Best we've ever seen throw the football.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Obviously, Dan Marino a lot of people still say he's
the best passon they've ever seen. Marino never won a
Super Bowl. He's not in the conversation. Aaron Rodgers one
Super Bowl win and one Super Bowl appearance, he's not
in the conversation, right all right, So I it's Brady
right now.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
But you hear me I say, and I've said this
for a long time.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback I've ever seen. He
is the best quarterback I've ever seen. But he is
not the goat. You do have to have the accomplishments.
It's almost like hip hop. You can have a guy
that's an incredible lyricist and a great rapper, but he
doesn't make great songs, right.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I mean, they're guys like that.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
The beats aren't that tight, the hook isn't right, whatever
it might be.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
That, but they're incredible word smith like sonically.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Word in terms of the lyrics, in terms of everything,
for whatever reason, just doesn't resonate in the same way, right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And so you do you to be the goat rapper
in the conversation, you gotta make hits, all right, And
the same thing with this. You have to win championships.
You have to have accolades. So it's Brady, But I
do have Mahomes as number two ahead of Montana. I
got Montana three. But I look, I have always said, Martin,
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it's not gonna take seven from Mahomes to become the goat.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
If this time, this time next year, if in fact
the Kenz Chiefs pull this off.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
There will be people shouting from the rooftops that Patrick
Mahomes is the greatest of all time.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
And then when you ask, well what did he why
over Brady, They're gonna be like, well, when did Brady
ever win three in a row?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And there, Yeah, Look, I think I've always said he
needs to win five. And I feel like, you know,
we'll see if he wins this championship, you know how
it happens and all that. But I feel like, now
even if he's three peats, I will still feel like
not quite because seven here's the thing about seven. Seven
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is more than any franchise, any franchise has ever won.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
So but Mahomes, I think it'll only take five.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And here's why I think he doesn't need seven, because
he has been more dominant individually than Tom Brady. Look,
Brady deserve a lot of people don't want to credit
him as much for his first three Super Bowls because
the defense was so big and he just wasn't quite
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the superstar yet that he would become. But here's what
I say to that, Mark, you do have to give
it major credit for those super Bowls because remember.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
And I say it a lot, but it's the truth.
New England under Bill Belichick was five and eleven.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Before the year before Brady took over, they were zero
and two with Drew Bledsoe as the quarterback who was
a Pro bowler, one hundred million dollar man, the first
hundred million dollar man in the league, and Nate still
couldn't win. And Brady steps in and they immediately take off.
They win eleven of what their last fourteen games, and
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they win the Super Bowl. I mean a team that
was darned near basically left for dead, and he turned
them around. So his leadership, his intangibles, his smarts as
a quarterback, all of that stuff came into play, but
he still was not putting up huge numbers. Well see now,
he did lead the league in touchdowns his second year
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as a starter, but they didn't even make the playoffs
that year.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I don't believe, but I think Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Mahomes is off to the best start of any quarterback
in history.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Well also to Chris the eye test. It's the eye
test that I mean.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
I'm not saying that Brady does not pass the eye
test by no stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
But when you look at what.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Mahomes does, the way he moves around, he's one of
the first guys to really maximize scrambling to make a
deeper pass, looking at some of the underhand passes, behind
the back passes, you know, some of the things that
we've seen, Like, there's only been one guy at Chris,
and I know that there's been obviously more in history,
but I'll talk about just strictly Martin Weiss's brain.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
There's only been one guy.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
When I watched that Tampa Bay super Bowl where he lost,
I said he threw two of the most impressive incompletions
i've ever seen, right, And it's partly because of the
way he's spinning around, laying parallel to the ground, And
it was just hard to fault guys like the Marcus
Robinson who dropped one in the back corner of the
end zone because most of the time after six seconds,
the play is over with, right, Like, most of the
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time after six seconds, you're not supposed to still be
running routes, doing scramble drill as a wide receiver, And
he had kind of pulled up and that's why it
didn't end up being a touchdown in that end zone
when he had when Patrick Holmes had no left hackles
to speak of against that Tampa Bay defense.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Right, Well, let me throw this at you because you
alluded to it. The fact that Brady in their head
to head matchups, the ones that meant something, the Super
Bowl and the AFC Championship, when Mahomes first year is
a starter, Brady got the best of him. Brady beat
him in the Super Bowl, Brady beat him in the
(24:24):
AFC Championship in his forties. So how much now I
get If you watch the games, you'll say Brady was
still great. James was Brady in his first year, second year,
or first few years. But as time goes on and
people get away from having seen the game live and
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all that, what they're gonna say is, wait a minute.
Brady was in his forties, he clearly wasn't at his best,
and he still beat Mahomes. How much of a factor
is that for you? Because I think that's gonna be
a huge thing for the Brady crowd.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
It'll be that conversation.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
I'll be ultimately they win three to four in a row,
that conversation stops four.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
In a row, but corner row would give him five
total and a four peat.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I mean, it's over, it'd be over.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
But so if in fact it ends the way you're talking,
I do think that if that's case, then Brady probably
should send d Ford an ellible arrangement and tell him
thanks a lot for lining up off sides on that
third down, because we were off the field and the
Chiefs would have won that game and it would have
been remembered more if it hadn't been for just earlier
on that day at the NFC Championship Game, the worst
non call in the NFL history that went so poorly
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that they ended up reviewing pass interference for an entire season.
I think that's that's really what it boils down to
to me. I know you're you're right in that. You know,
people are just gonna point to the results of those games.
But I ultimately think that over the next three or
three to four years, Patrick Mahomes is gonna win enough
Super Bowl to where the result of that individual game,
and even the Super Bowl that he lost to Brady
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is going to be deemed irrelevant because of the success
he has going forward in his career.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, I mean, I look, and I think I was
the first.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I don't know, I can't state that for a fact,
but his first year as a starter, when he had
the fifty touchdowns, won the MVP. I said, he's jordan esque,
and boy, old boy. Now he's won earlier than Michael
Jordan won, but he really is is doing Jordanesque type
things the NFL. I mean, how many quarterbacks Lamar, Joe Burrow,
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Josh Allen and we'll see. I think guys will win
a Super Bowl. Mahomes can't win it every year, but
he is keeping everyone from eating, you know, and it's
a Jordan's we can't get past this dude, we can't
get a championship because.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
He's there, and so, yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I think he will be the goat when it's all
said and done, but I can't give it to him
right now.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
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Speaker 1 (27:09):
Brandon Ayuk just signed an extension with the Niners, but
Dak Prescott not so fortunate, and he's seeking that with
the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
They've been talking but to no avail thus far.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
And Jerry Jones has said not recently that he looks
like they probably won't get it done before the season, and.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Dak Prescott has responded.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So Rob Ge kind of summarized this for so we
have the proper context before we talk about some of
these quotes.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
Sure, So, as soon as the CD LAMB deal was done,
similar to the brand Ayuk deal, you guys said, hey,
what's next with Trent Williams. Well, as soon as CD
was done, it's hey, what's next with Dek? So Jerry
Jones has been in the headlines again in the last
forty eight hours talking about it, and earlier on Thursday day,
Jerry was asked once again, how does this situation with
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Cede Lamb impact Dak Prescott's feature with the team, And
throughout his answer, one thing he says is quote, you
could easily say, if you haven't seen it by now,
then you haven't seen it. Well, when you look at
a situation, you also got away, Okay, what are the
consequences of the other side of the coin? And so
when Dak's situation right now, for me from my mirror,
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has more to do with our situation than it does
with the merits of Dak being the quarterback of the
Dallas Cowboys. So it's a big word salad, all right,
goog exactly. So later on, a couple hours later, Dak
Prescott meets with the media and a little scrum there
in the locker room, and they ask him about his situation.
They tell him what Jerry Jones has said. Dak Prescott replies,
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that's the business and the nature of this game that
we play. So yeah, I mean I stopped honestly listening
to the things that he's says to the media a
long time ago. It doesn't really hold any weight with me.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I'm gonna say this from.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That quote from Dak Prescott sounds to me like he's
fed up with the circus. And I mean, I think
it's an insult to Jerry Jones. Now I don't I
haven't seen there's no video of how he said it.
I would imagine he said it somewhat laughingly, you know,
(29:34):
kind of Hey. You know, I've learned not to pay
attention to what he's saying. You know, it doesn't hold word,
you know, that kind of thing. But you could have
easily just gone to politically correct route. Dak's done that
for the bulk of his career. For him to come
out and say, man, please, I don't listen to that dude.
(29:54):
You know, like if you when you were on with
Rob and you saying something about me, and I seriously
somebody told me later and I seriously was like.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Man, please, I don't pay attention to.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
What he says about me, Like, and I'm serious that
to me, that's insulting.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
You heard our show. But you know what I'm.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Saying, I think this is an insult to Jerry Jones
and the fact that his quarterback is saying that.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Now, maybe I'm taking it too seriously.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
But I think that is something and I'm not gonna
say he's totally done with the Cowboys, But I've been
singing this tune for years that Jerry Jones has created
a circus like atmosphere that is not the best for
winning the big games. And it almost sounds like to
me in this quote that Dak Prescott feels the same way,
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and he's like, man enough, I'm kind.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Of done with this stuff. So and you're absolutely right, right.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
It's like when you go to your family union and
your old uncle, right, he always got something to say, right,
whether it be the girl you dating, you bring her
over something, whoever made the castle role, whatever it is,
he got something to say. And whoever's with you, that
(31:18):
same girl you're dating, they could be like, oh my god,
I don't worry about that. He crazy, right, like he
that's uncle Bud. He you know, he knows Vietnam. He crazy, right,
He say anything, nobody pays a t.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Right Like.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
So it's one of those things where you're literally like, hey, bro,
it's this is what Jerry does. He inserts himself and
he takes control of the situation and holds the whole
situation in narrative, he.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Holds it hostage.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Right, Jerry is gonna say, no matter how what he
is the brand, it's all about him, so on and
so forth. The only owner that has weekly radio show,
TV show, the whole nine yards. He talks to the
to the media more than the players and the coaches. Right,
it's the only team like that. Most teams you don't
even see them. You barely see the owner, not until
they holding the trophy. Right. You barely even see him
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walking in the halls. You don't, you don't, you don't
see him. So it's one of those situations where Dak
is like, look, I'm focusing on the season. I'm gonna
go out here and do what I now. If I
were Dak Prescott, I will play out this season. I said, Look,
when when Thursday comes around and the season starts, I
don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I don't want to talk about it. For him, sixty million.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
And the per year before the season starts, do you
think is that the number hit wants. Well, there's some
school of thought out there that if he waits until
next you know.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
He's going to he'll go beyond it.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
He will go beyond sixty. Okay, so money goes up,
that's the question I'm throwing.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Look remember right now the highest per year is what
fifty five million? Yes, so sixty It could be the
jump next summer, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Like it doesn't I mean ten million.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Now, the CAP's gonna go up to the money going up,
so that won't be that won't be the ceiling.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
So so if let's say hypothetically they offer him sixty
and you know, before the season, because I I don't
rule out the possibility of this getting done before the
season starts, do you think that should take it?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
At this point? I would say no? Wow?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
And the reason is the things you just said right
like that he might be tired of the circuit. It's
you don't want to have to do this, right, you
don't want to Remember, he held out before they want
to pay him, and he got heard they paid him minute.
It's a lot going on, And there's a situation where
if Dak Prescott being number two in the MVP race
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last year, three years, twelve and five, twelve and five,
twelve and five, if the situation happens where he's able
to attack the open market, what what is that annually
gonna look like right, So are you willing to bet
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on you right now? It's a lot, You're taking a chance.
What is he making forty five right now? So this
is forty five with no security. So are you willing paid? Yeah,
but there's different types of injuries. But the fact that
he did get hurt last time and still got paid
bodwell for him, not Dallas, because if he paid, the
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money is out there. He's Dak Prescott is good enough
for someone. You don't think the Raiders, You don't think
the Saints.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
You know, the Wheelers, Steelers Right now, the way it's looking,
they gonna want a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
And these two one of these. I mean, there's a there's.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
A bevy of teams, the Giants. You still in the
same division, right, you know? So, But let me ask
you this though, and because to me this is important
and part of the crux of the matter, this quote,
and you talked about it. The silly uncle at the
family view which I totally.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Get crazy young one, not the silly the silly one
doing jokes and magic, the crazy one say anything, but.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
My crazy uncle at the family reunion when I say please, don't,
don't nobody listen to him. It's not really an insult.
It's kind of you know what I mean. It's kind
of like, oh, that's just uncle, you know, Patty on
the head.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
What's the insult to your uncle? What you do? Listen
to me? Everybody, everybody's but look, that's what I mean.
It's okay. But that's exactly what I mean, Chris. It's
not it's not having ill feelings toward him. Look, this
is you don't just dope him.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Sounds to me like an insult to Jerry. And that
Dak is like kind of like, at least i'm reading it.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I'm tired of the circus. Yes, I'm tired of this.
That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And you talked about the Raiders, and I know they've
had their issues. Certainly the Steelers, Oh good, what the Giants?
These are football first franchise. Line up to get it
won't be the circus. Right line up, Davante Adams will
be like, I'll give you all Somebney back.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
And they got a defense, so they got a receiver.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Jerry knows this. Jerry not dumb, right. I don't know
what he's trying to get done here, but what I'm
saying is dak has leverage if the season starts before
something gets done next Thursday, seven days, I'm keeping my leverage.
We're gonna rock We're gonna rock out. I'm gonna try
to get us to the super Bowl and win this thing.
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And guess what if he does that and he says deuces, right,
he controls He's a big if that. You know what
I'm saying. Right, Anything can happen, don't. We don't know,
and that is a huge if.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Right.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
But what I'm saying, though, even if they go to
the playoffs and they fumble out of the playoffs second round,
whatever that is like they normally do. Right, You don't
think the Raiders all sign up for a divisional round playoff.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I think even if he does, yes, they would, right,
Like I was gonna say, even if he doesn't get
he could have a down year and maybe even missing.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
The market is still gonna be crazy, Because it's gonna
be crazy.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
That's what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
And they've been without a court and that's the thing
Dallas has to worry about.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
These teams out there have been without.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
A quarterback for a decade or whatever, and they know
the value of a guy.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Even though he's not, you know, a top five quarterback.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
They know his values and Dallas has to be careful
of that because franchise quarterbacks don't grow on trees, and
so that's gonna be the interesting thing.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
BJ.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
We were just talking about Mike Sando's annual QB tiars
article that he does every year right before the season.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Is a great read, a great list.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
He talks to fifty people around the league, scouts, talent evaluators, executives, coaches, etc.
And they rank the top quarterbacks in the league. And
we talked earlier about.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
C. J.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Stroud who was ranked number eight, and you had a
problem with him being in that second tier. Dak Prescott,
I'm sorry, brock Party is ranked twelve. He's also Tier two,
moved up from tier four. Obviously you understand why he
was Tier four going into this past season, but now
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he's Tier two, number twelve. And Tua, who just signed
the big deal with the Miami Dolphins, is he's the
first quarterback in Tier three, and that is he's ranked
fifteenth in the league one spot, which is interesting, ahead
of Trevor Lawrence who's at sixteen.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And you.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It sounds like you think Tua should be in the
second tier. And also I'm guessing you think he should
be ahead of Rock Party.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Share your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Not so much, Brock Party. This isn't more what brock Perdy.
This is more about CJ. Stroud Party. I told you
I'm off the I'm off the train, off the bandwagon
of banging on Brock Party.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Every quarterback needs weapons.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
And of course the first thing was, well, he's got
right exactly. My homes is the one guy. Well, he
still has the game's best tight end. Let's just make
sure we keep right player. He still has the game's
best tight end, and he's got the game's best head
coach and the game's best home field advanage.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
He's got some he's got some stuff that helps out.
You have a running game.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Absolutely well, yes, I was about to say, and a
great defense, probably the best best defensive interior lineman in
the league and Chris Jones, so he's got plenty of help.
He doesn't do it by hisself. But he's still just
so magical. He still he's still just so dope that
you the game's never over. You don't leave the couch,
you don't go get more chips. This guy's gonna end
this thing and you're gonna miss the end of it.
(02:46):
But so, but everybody's got to have weapons, and it
just feels like that only certain quarterbacks are allowed to
have them. When other quarterbacks have it, then it's the
weapons and not the quarterback. And just on tour real fast.
And I don't because this has been the talk for
the last two years. But yeah, I believe tier two
number one in yours last year, number two, and completion
percentage by point two, completion percentage points behind Deck Prescott
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almost seventy percent fifth and QB tenth in the QB rating.
Like I'm just trying to figure out what does he
have to do to be considered better than the guy
who Now you want to talk about teams beating teams
or guys beating guy. Do you know who CJ. Stroud
was beating up on last year? Okay, they beat they
beat Carolina Atlanta and the Jet the Jets they lost too.
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Where he had a robust six points okay, and went
ten of twenty three in that game.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
There was also another game and Philly lost to the Jets.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
We're not talking about them teams though, We're just talking
about the Houston Texas right now. They also lost to
the Carolina Panthers and Bryce Young, where he put up
another robust thirteen points. This idea, I know, on paper,
you can look at numbers that go, oh Man greatest
quarterback season in history. But when you put the tape on,
there's still plenty of deficien tapes.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You know, like the tape. But CJ. Stroud didn't say that,
like the tam what you said.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You put it on, you see deficient, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That doesn't mean that I don't like them. But I
still see deficiencies.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I still see the deficiencies and oos and two is
my guy, but I still see some things that he
needs to improve on.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's just being a real fan, not being anough.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
This ain't a bad of course, everybody can improve about that,
but it's about a tier two quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
He is better than he has had one.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
First of all, to Joe, you can stay healthy, all right.
He showed it one year out of four times all right,
so I need to see more about you. That's why
I was like and there are certain times we talked
about it with the Cowboys. A lot of times you
should pay the guy earlier because the price is only going.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Real quick, though, Chris, Let's make sure we also remember
to tell those stories. C J.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Stroud miss two games last year for two games, that's
not why it doesn't matter to us.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Been through it's still too so I get it, but
you can't compare right now CJ.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Stroud's injury history to two. That's what I'm doing to
would win. I'm telling you the story. C J.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Stroud was not an injury problem yester year. He was
ready for the playoffs. He played the fifteen out of
seventeen games, so it wasn't injuries were not an issue
with him. They were an issue. They've been an issue
with TUA for seventy percent of his career. So I
want to see him have one other full healthy season
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before I go ahead and anoint him.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Secondly, beat some good teams.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Dude is one in six, and it's not just that
he don't win against good teams. His numbers plummet, his
passer rating plummets, his touchdown, the interception radio ratio plummets.
He doesn't play well against these good teams, one in
six last hold on, he was one in six last
year against playoff teams. And then on top of that,
(05:59):
he doesn't get it done in cold weather. And I
ain't even talking about freezing. I'm talking about forty five
degrees in below. He's going six in his career. Okay,
So these are all the.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Issues I had.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And he's very good on schedule, and this is why
I like Rock Purty better than him. Party can make better,
is better off schedule. Perty obviously on schedule two, much
like Toua, but it's better off schedule. He can scramble more,
he can run better, he can make plays out of.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
The pocket better, in my view.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So I just think, Look, I'm not I don't want
to necessarily kill Tua.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I don't think I'm not sold yet.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And I would not have paid him this year, and
I would have gladly paid him more next year if
he stays healthy this season and plays really well.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I agree. I agree with this year.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Pay him this year before it gets too expensive next
year because.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It would be more, and I get it, but I
would be willing to do because I'm not. If I'm
not sure the guy, I will wait and pay more
once he proves.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
But they are I don't think he's proving him to
Mike McDaniel in the front office are shore on him?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
We don't have to be sure. It doesn't matter. If
I'm sure, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
If you're shore on him, it does mean something because
they're the guys I mean, check pay.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But it doesn't mean he's a great quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
No, but you said you said showing them like believe
in them, like sold on them. They're sold on them.
That's why they went ahead and paid if they weren't
sold on them, Chris, they didn't let him play on
this last year deal and let him become a freegi
and they hold on them all they want and working
from I mean, there are a lot of teams sold
on on mediocre quarterbacks or quarterbacks that they think you're
better than he is.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And look, I'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
If I'm a mediocre quarter I'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
He's better than mediocre.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I wasn't just saying him, but I would be fine
if he goes out there and proves me wrong. But
you address what I said, beating good teams winning in
cold weather and doing something off schedule.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Okay, porry, So let me talk the teams.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I'll tell you Baltimore twice, excuse me, Baltimore, Philly, Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Twice and Buffalo twice.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
So you're talking Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and and uh no, no,
but you're talking to teams, but you're using the quarter back.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Let me pretty good. No, hold on, hold on, you were.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Having a discussion, all right, now, listen what you bring
up those teams like, well, you're not expected to beat them.
Buffalo's in that freaking division. You got just what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
You don't believe in him and sold on them, but
you want him to go beat Pat Mahomes twice in
one year.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
What you're saying, I want to know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He hasn't played well against good teams, and you you saying, well,
you you're kind of saying it like, well, how's he supposed.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
To beat Buffalo? How's he supposed to beat Ball?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Where are they going in ten and seven every year
and out in the first round?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Well, no, they were eleven and six last year. Number one,
they choked the season away, and when you lose your
own when you're off, it's that season.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I'm telling I'm a fan.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I tell you they choked the season away when they
when your offensive line gets decimated like that, you lose
three starters late in the year and you lose both
your rush is they're signing guys off the street late
in the year to come in and rush the quarterback.
No one's gonna be successful late in the year when
you're doing that. The cold stuff I give you been
a dolphin fam all.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I just.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I've been hearing it. I've been hearing that my whole life.
About the weather. I can't defend the weather. They're gonna
have to change that narrative themselves. But when we talk
about Tua, like I said, it's funny how it becomes
Tua can't do this, Tua can't do that. When we're
talking to team sport and the reason why I name
these teams that you're saying they're laws to. You're talking
upper echelon teams that a lot of teams in the
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NFL and a lot of quarterbacks can't be Once again,
Josh Allen is in Tier one with mahomes by this
list I don't agree with it. But by this list,
you're asking two of to play two of the top
three quarterbacks four games, and he's supposed to beat them
by himself.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
That's not how this is goal. The goal is by
him South.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That's how you got Todd reek Hill, he got Jaylen Walla,
he got all exactly.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So you're answered there, you bottom there, you know you're
answering my course right there.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It's a team game. Why is it when it comes
to tool is he can't do this? He can't do that?
Is that just a quarters Chris? I just know how
we were, Chris.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I just gave you, no dude it Chris, I just
gave you the teams and names that CJ.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Stroud couldn't be you making excuses for him to.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
The he looks scored ten points then when he went
to the twenty three.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That's not a good day, Chris. Okay, so he had
a bad game too, He's had a few bad games.
That won the only bad game, Chris.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
He threw four hundred and forty yards and went sixteen
to twenty four and put up thirteen points against the
worst team in.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
The league in the Panthers. So does I'm saying this,
not c J.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Stroud come on, does not have Tye hold On, does
not have Tyreek Hill, does not have Jaylen Walla, does
not have Mike McDaniel calling plays for him.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Did not have that run.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
They had one of the worst run games in the
league and had one of the best.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You can't even fix your mouth to compare to Tua. Please,
you know, and Tua he did.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
C J.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Be went to the playoffs and crushed a Cleveland team
and bo and beat Joe Feloff.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
On that hole. Eveland Road wins one. And it wasn't
at home. He beat Joe Flacco, he beat Josh, He
beat the Cleveland Browns. He didn't beat Joe. He beat
the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And you want to sit up here and make excuses
for Tua. You want to act like he playing one
on one against Lamar, one on one against Mahomes, one
on one against Josh Allen. No, like you said, it's
a team sport. Beat that defense. And he hasn't shown
that he can do it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
He gonna show it this year.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, he gonna show it.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
He does. We're gonna We're gonna revisit. This one is
the c J.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Stroud is not better than to a Tagaba Loyd. Y'all
need to stop that. And I just met and I
just gave the metrics that we're talking about. Who they played,
who they played against. I'm giving you teams. They beat
garbage to Chris, they beat garbage too.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
They didn't be No. They beat Pittsburgh. Some guy Pittsburgh Burgh,
Pittsburgh win.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
No quarterback with an overrated running back in was a
ten win team last year.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Don't do that. Don't do that. CV.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, they beat hold On, hold On, they beat Tampa
Bay playoff team.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
They beat Cincinnati. All right? Do the Dolphins get credit
for being dollars? That's one that was one good win.
I'm just six bad losses when they played the other
good team. Do they get credit for? CV is all
about but that one win. That was a good win.
But I need more of that. All right, You and
I we're gonna be on this all year long.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Man, expect your phone text message to blow up every
time Tua beat a good team this year.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Expect Tua and the Dolphins the breakdancers as I call them,
They will go out there and put up numbers, a
light show, a circus. It'll be Xanadu when they playing
the Tomato Cans in the league. But bring a good team,
bring some bullies, bring some rough down there.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
See what they prediction, a predicted record and how far
they go this year?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Put it on right now. I got them third in
the a f C East third, a record third.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I got Jets winning the af C East Buffalo second,
Miami third.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
But I got all you drinking out water in BALI
use drinking out water in Bali.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
The Jets are not winning that division. The Jets are
stack baby, The Jets are not winning.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
That thing is gonna far that hard y'all are falling
into the Aaron Rodgers that that thing is going to fall.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
All Shadgers has to do is be solid. You don't
even have to be like m vpr okay with that defense,
with those skill positions. And I like the the improved
offensive line. You didn't like the no no.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I like the defense. I do like the defense.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I didn't like the offensive line. Two tackles over the
age of thirty one and what haven't it? But they
got I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Know about that.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I think they can handle the injuries. Well, you got
the Jets winning the division. I didn't hear it in
the division.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
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Speaker 1 (15:03):
To Fusco show on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts
or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, you brought this up.
You did trolling a rolling last night.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I did.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And one of your topics was or questions was about
the ESPN poll of players. It was one hundred players,
one hundred and three players, types of questions about quarterbacks,
most underrated, most overrated, so on and so forth, And
one of the questions they were asked is who's the
(15:35):
goat the greatest quarterback of all time? Eighty five of
the respondents said Tom Brady, a few said someone else.
They didn't tell us who. That makes me think maybe
they were jokes. You know that they got through in
all types of crazy names.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But seven said Patrick.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Mahomes, and one player anonymously, of course, said if Mahomes
wins his third straight and becomes the first quarterback ever
to win three straight Super Bowls, and the first team,
of course, would be the Chiefs, then that changes everything.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
So I want to ask you.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Martin Weiss, where are you right now on the goat
conversation in the NFL? And tell me where you've got
Mahomes ranked and what would it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Take for him to become the go Will a three
peak do it?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Because obviously they're on the cusp, they have a great chance.
I think they're better on paper than they were last year.
Even though they lost Lagerius Snead, they got some there.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I think they strengthened their receiving corps, which will be big.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
They're definitely better on offense than they were last year,
probably not on defense.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
But the thing about the defense is it was it
had a lot of young players, so those young players
that remained should get better.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So that's kind of what I mean there.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But go ahead and share what your thoughts are on
the goat and where Mahomes ranks and what you think
he needs to do to surpass Brady.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
So I think when we're looking at who's got the goat, right,
the greatest of all time, there's a ton of two
avenues look at it. One accomplishments, the other one being ability, right.
I think when you look at and I think obviously
the combination of those two really makes your goat argument unassailable.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
When you look at a guy like Tom.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Brady, he's got all the accolades in the world, and
on top of that one a ton of games, right.
But when you look at a guy like Patrick Mahomes,
he's got a lot of the same accolades. But if
he gets this three peat, in my opinion, there's gonna
be the prevailing sentiment. There will be a very very
loud minority, and one that grows exponentially at the end
(17:53):
of the season. If they end up pulling off a
three p in the Kansas City Chief, be huge.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I agree, I big like that next year, and we
talked about it last night.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
It'll be close to half, if not half, or maybe
more than half to say Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Is to go.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Yeah, I think if you pull off that three feet
you're probably looking at it close to a sixty forty
split between voters sixty of them being Tom, forty of
them being Mahomes, with Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Being under thirty.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Still, right, So you'd have to think eventually Patrick Mahomes
is going to end up taking that title. Right now,
I would actually probably still have him behind Joe Montana
in terms of accolades right, in terms of the straight accolades.
But I'll look at ability. To me, just Patrick Mahomes
is up there with some of the most talented people
(18:39):
have ever seen it throw a football in terms of
they're just football ability. I mean, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers,
that's in that class. But when you're talking about greatest
of all time, you also have to combine that with winning, right,
That's what changes you from just being you know, a
guy who's got a great arm talent.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You have all the ability in the world if you
don't win exact accounplishments. I mean, Aaron Rodgers is I mean,
until Mahomes came along, you could argue he was the.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Best we've ever seen throw the football.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Obviously, Dan Marino a lot of people still say he's
the best passon they've ever seen. Marino never won a
Super Bowl. He's not in the conversation. Aaron Rodgers one
Super Bowl win and one Super Bowl appearance, he's not
in the conversation, right all right, So I it's Brady
right now.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
But you hear me I say, and I've said this
for a long time.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback I've ever seen. He
is the best quarterback I've ever seen. But he is
not the goat. You do have to have the accomplishments.
It's almost like hip hop. You can have a guy
that's an incredible lyricist and a great rapper, but he
doesn't make great songs, right.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I mean, they're guys like that.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
The beats aren't that tight, the hook isn't right, whatever
it might be.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
That, but they're incredible word smith like sonically.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Word in terms of the lyrics, in terms of everything,
for whatever reason, just doesn't resonate in the same way, right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And so you do you to be the goat rapper
in the conversation, you gotta make hits, all right, And
the same thing with this. You have to win championships.
You have to have accolades. So it's Brady, But I
do have Mahomes as number two ahead of Montana. I
got Montana three. But I look, I have always said, Martin,
(20:32):
it's not gonna take seven from Mahomes to become the goat.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
If this time, this time next year, if in fact
the Kenz Chiefs pull this off.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
There will be people shouting from the rooftops that Patrick
Mahomes is the greatest of all time.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
And then when you ask, well what did he why
over Brady, They're gonna be like, well, when did Brady
ever win three in a row?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And there, Yeah, Look, I think I've always said he
needs to win five. And I feel like, you know,
we'll see if he wins this championship, you know how
it happens and all that. But I feel like, now
even if he's three peats, I will still feel like
not quite because seven here's the thing about seven. Seven
(21:16):
is more than any franchise, any franchise has ever won.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
So but Mahomes, I think it'll only take five.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And here's why I think he doesn't need seven, because
he has been more dominant individually than Tom Brady. Look,
Brady deserve a lot of people don't want to credit
him as much for his first three Super Bowls because
the defense was so big and he just wasn't quite
(21:45):
the superstar yet that he would become. But here's what
I say to that, Mark, you do have to give
it major credit for those super Bowls because remember.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
And I say it a lot, but it's the truth.
New England under Bill Belichick was five and eleven.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Before the year before Brady took over, they were zero
and two with Drew Bledsoe as the quarterback who was
a Pro bowler, one hundred million dollar man, the first
hundred million dollar man in the league, and Nate still
couldn't win. And Brady steps in and they immediately take off.
They win eleven of what their last fourteen games, and
(22:30):
they win the Super Bowl. I mean a team that
was darned near basically left for dead, and he turned
them around. So his leadership, his intangibles, his smarts as
a quarterback, all of that stuff came into play, but
he still was not putting up huge numbers. Well see now,
he did lead the league in touchdowns his second year
(22:51):
as a starter, but they didn't even make the playoffs
that year.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I don't believe, but I think Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Mahomes is off to the best start of any quarterback
in history.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Well also to Chris the eye test. It's the eye
test that I mean.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
I'm not saying that Brady does not pass the eye
test by no stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
But when you look at what.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Mahomes does, the way he moves around, he's one of
the first guys to really maximize scrambling to make a
deeper pass, looking at some of the underhand passes, behind
the back passes, you know, some of the things that
we've seen, Like, there's only been one guy at Chris,
and I know that there's been obviously more in history,
but I'll talk about just strictly Martin Weiss's brain.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
There's only been one guy.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
When I watched that Tampa Bay super Bowl where he lost,
I said he threw two of the most impressive incompletions
i've ever seen, right, And it's partly because of the
way he's spinning around, laying parallel to the ground, And
it was just hard to fault guys like the Marcus
Robinson who dropped one in the back corner of the
end zone because most of the time after six seconds,
the play is over with, right, Like, most of the
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time after six seconds, you're not supposed to still be
running routes, doing scramble drill as a wide receiver, And
he had kind of pulled up and that's why it
didn't end up being a touchdown in that end zone
when he had when Patrick Holmes had no left hackles
to speak of against that Tampa Bay defense.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Right, Well, let me throw this at you because you
alluded to it. The fact that Brady in their head
to head matchups, the ones that meant something, the Super
Bowl and the AFC Championship, when Mahomes first year is
a starter, Brady got the best of him. Brady beat
him in the Super Bowl, Brady beat him in the
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AFC Championship in his forties. So how much now I
get If you watch the games, you'll say Brady was
still great. James was Brady in his first year, second year,
or first few years. But as time goes on and
people get away from having seen the game live and
(24:47):
all that, what they're gonna say is, wait a minute.
Brady was in his forties, he clearly wasn't at his best,
and he still beat Mahomes. How much of a factor
is that for you? Because I think that's gonna be
a huge thing for the Brady crowd.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
It'll be that conversation.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
I'll be ultimately they win three to four in a row,
that conversation stops four.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
In a row, but corner row would give him five
total and a four peat.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I mean, it's over, it'd be over.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
But so if in fact it ends the way you're talking,
I do think that if that's case, then Brady probably
should send d Ford an ellible arrangement and tell him
thanks a lot for lining up off sides on that
third down, because we were off the field and the
Chiefs would have won that game and it would have
been remembered more if it hadn't been for just earlier
on that day at the NFC Championship Game, the worst
non call in the NFL history that went so poorly
(25:36):
that they ended up reviewing pass interference for an entire season.
I think that's that's really what it boils down to
to me. I know you're you're right in that. You know,
people are just gonna point to the results of those games.
But I ultimately think that over the next three or
three to four years, Patrick Mahomes is gonna win enough
Super Bowl to where the result of that individual game,
and even the Super Bowl that he lost to Brady
(25:57):
is going to be deemed irrelevant because of the success
he has going forward in his career.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, I mean, I look, and I think I was
the first.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I don't know, I can't state that for a fact,
but his first year as a starter, when he had
the fifty touchdowns, won the MVP. I said, he's jordan esque,
and boy, old boy. Now he's won earlier than Michael
Jordan won, but he really is is doing Jordanesque type
things the NFL. I mean, how many quarterbacks Lamar, Joe Burrow,
(26:32):
Josh Allen and we'll see. I think guys will win
a Super Bowl. Mahomes can't win it every year, but
he is keeping everyone from eating, you know, and it's
a Jordan's we can't get past this dude, we can't
get a championship because.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
He's there, and so, yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I think he will be the goat when it's all
said and done, but I can't give it to him
right now.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
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Speaker 1 (27:09):
Brandon Ayuk just signed an extension with the Niners, but
Dak Prescott not so fortunate, and he's seeking that with
the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
They've been talking but to no avail thus far.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
And Jerry Jones has said not recently that he looks
like they probably won't get it done before the season, and.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Dak Prescott has responded.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So Rob Ge kind of summarized this for so we
have the proper context before we talk about some of
these quotes.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
Sure, So, as soon as the CD LAMB deal was done,
similar to the brand Ayuk deal, you guys said, hey,
what's next with Trent Williams. Well, as soon as CD
was done, it's hey, what's next with Dek? So Jerry
Jones has been in the headlines again in the last
forty eight hours talking about it, and earlier on Thursday day,
Jerry was asked once again, how does this situation with
(28:04):
Cede Lamb impact Dak Prescott's feature with the team, And
throughout his answer, one thing he says is quote, you
could easily say, if you haven't seen it by now,
then you haven't seen it. Well, when you look at
a situation, you also got away, Okay, what are the
consequences of the other side of the coin? And so
when Dak's situation right now, for me from my mirror,
(28:27):
has more to do with our situation than it does
with the merits of Dak being the quarterback of the
Dallas Cowboys. So it's a big word salad, all right,
goog exactly. So later on, a couple hours later, Dak
Prescott meets with the media and a little scrum there
in the locker room, and they ask him about his situation.
They tell him what Jerry Jones has said. Dak Prescott replies,
(28:52):
that's the business and the nature of this game that
we play. So yeah, I mean I stopped honestly listening
to the things that he's says to the media a
long time ago. It doesn't really hold any weight with me.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I'm gonna say this from.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That quote from Dak Prescott sounds to me like he's
fed up with the circus. And I mean, I think
it's an insult to Jerry Jones. Now I don't I
haven't seen there's no video of how he said it.
I would imagine he said it somewhat laughingly, you know,
(29:34):
kind of Hey. You know, I've learned not to pay
attention to what he's saying. You know, it doesn't hold word,
you know, that kind of thing. But you could have
easily just gone to politically correct route. Dak's done that
for the bulk of his career. For him to come
out and say, man, please, I don't listen to that dude.
(29:54):
You know, like if you when you were on with
Rob and you saying something about me, and I seriously
somebody told me later and I seriously was like.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Man, please, I don't pay attention to.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
What he says about me, Like, and I'm serious that
to me, that's insulting.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
You heard our show. But you know what I'm.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Saying, I think this is an insult to Jerry Jones
and the fact that his quarterback is saying that.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Now, maybe I'm taking it too seriously.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
But I think that is something and I'm not gonna
say he's totally done with the Cowboys, But I've been
singing this tune for years that Jerry Jones has created
a circus like atmosphere that is not the best for
winning the big games. And it almost sounds like to
me in this quote that Dak Prescott feels the same way,
(30:48):
and he's like, man enough, I'm kind.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Of done with this stuff. So and you're absolutely right, right.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
It's like when you go to your family union and
your old uncle, right, he always got something to say, right,
whether it be the girl you dating, you bring her
over something, whoever made the castle role, whatever it is,
he got something to say. And whoever's with you, that
(31:18):
same girl you're dating, they could be like, oh my god,
I don't worry about that. He crazy, right, like he
that's uncle Bud. He you know, he knows Vietnam. He crazy, right,
He say anything, nobody pays a t.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Right Like.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
So it's one of those things where you're literally like, hey, bro,
it's this is what Jerry does. He inserts himself and
he takes control of the situation and holds the whole
situation in narrative, he.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Holds it hostage.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Right, Jerry is gonna say, no matter how what he
is the brand, it's all about him, so on and
so forth. The only owner that has weekly radio show,
TV show, the whole nine yards. He talks to the
to the media more than the players and the coaches. Right,
it's the only team like that. Most teams you don't
even see them. You barely see the owner, not until
they holding the trophy. Right. You barely even see him
(32:22):
walking in the halls. You don't, you don't, you don't
see him. So it's one of those situations where Dak
is like, look, I'm focusing on the season. I'm gonna
go out here and do what I now. If I
were Dak Prescott, I will play out this season. I said, Look,
when when Thursday comes around and the season starts, I
don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I don't want to talk about it. For him, sixty million.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
And the per year before the season starts, do you
think is that the number hit wants. Well, there's some
school of thought out there that if he waits until
next you know.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
He's going to he'll go beyond it.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
He will go beyond sixty. Okay, so money goes up,
that's the question I'm throwing.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Look remember right now the highest per year is what
fifty five million? Yes, so sixty It could be the
jump next summer, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Like it doesn't I mean ten million.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Now, the CAP's gonna go up to the money going up,
so that won't be that won't be the ceiling.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
So so if let's say hypothetically they offer him sixty
and you know, before the season, because I I don't
rule out the possibility of this getting done before the
season starts, do you think that should take it?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
At this point? I would say no? Wow?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
And the reason is the things you just said right
like that he might be tired of the circuit. It's
you don't want to have to do this, right, you
don't want to Remember, he held out before they want
to pay him, and he got heard they paid him minute.
It's a lot going on, And there's a situation where
if Dak Prescott being number two in the MVP race
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last year, three years, twelve and five, twelve and five,
twelve and five, if the situation happens where he's able
to attack the open market, what what is that annually
gonna look like right, So are you willing to bet
(34:31):
on you right now? It's a lot, You're taking a chance.
What is he making forty five right now? So this
is forty five with no security. So are you willing paid? Yeah,
but there's different types of injuries. But the fact that
he did get hurt last time and still got paid
bodwell for him, not Dallas, because if he paid, the
(34:54):
money is out there. He's Dak Prescott is good enough
for someone. You don't think the Raiders, You don't think
the Saints.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
You know, the Wheelers, Steelers Right now, the way it's looking,
they gonna want a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
And these two one of these. I mean, there's a there's.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
A bevy of teams, the Giants. You still in the
same division, right, you know? So, But let me ask
you this though, and because to me this is important
and part of the crux of the matter, this quote,
and you talked about it. The silly uncle at the
family view which I totally.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Get crazy young one, not the silly the silly one
doing jokes and magic, the crazy one say anything, but.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
My crazy uncle at the family reunion when I say please, don't,
don't nobody listen to him. It's not really an insult.
It's kind of you know what I mean. It's kind
of like, oh, that's just uncle, you know, Patty on
the head.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
What's the insult to your uncle? What you do? Listen
to me? Everybody, everybody's but look, that's what I mean.
It's okay. But that's exactly what I mean, Chris. It's
not it's not having ill feelings toward him. Look, this
is you don't just dope him.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Sounds to me like an insult to Jerry. And that
Dak is like kind of like, at least i'm reading it.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I'm tired of the circus. Yes, I'm tired of this.
That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And you talked about the Raiders, and I know they've
had their issues. Certainly the Steelers, Oh good, what the Giants?
These are football first franchise. Line up to get it
won't be the circus. Right line up, Davante Adams will
be like, I'll give you all Somebney back.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
And they got a defense, so they got a receiver.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Jerry knows this. Jerry not dumb, right. I don't know
what he's trying to get done here, but what I'm
saying is dak has leverage if the season starts before
something gets done next Thursday, seven days, I'm keeping my leverage.
We're gonna rock We're gonna rock out. I'm gonna try
to get us to the super Bowl and win this thing.
(37:00):
And guess what if he does that and he says deuces, right,
he controls He's a big if that. You know what
I'm saying. Right, Anything can happen, don't. We don't know,
and that is a huge if.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Right.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
But what I'm saying, though, even if they go to
the playoffs and they fumble out of the playoffs second round,
whatever that is like they normally do. Right, You don't
think the Raiders all sign up for a divisional round playoff.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I think even if he does, yes, they would, right,
Like I was gonna say, even if he doesn't get
he could have a down year and maybe even missing.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
The market is still gonna be crazy, Because it's gonna
be crazy.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
That's what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
And they've been without a court and that's the thing
Dallas has to worry about.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
These teams out there have been without.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
A quarterback for a decade or whatever, and they know
the value of a guy.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Even though he's not, you know, a top five quarterback.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
They know his values and Dallas has to be careful
of that because franchise quarterbacks don't grow on trees, and
so that's gonna be the interesting thing.
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