May 9, 2026 • 28 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Jaylen Brown is plotting his exit from the Boston Celtics, explain why it’s not surprising at all that the New England Patriots are sticking with Mike Vrabel given that their franchise has a history of supporting cheaters, and tell us why the Game 2 officiating debacle was Exhibit A why basketball fans at-large hate the Oklahoma City Thunder.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
All right, Rob, g Uh, We're hear more and more
from somebody who's supposed to be not mentioned necessarily because
he hadn't in the playoffs anymore, That is Jylen Brown.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Interestingly enough, this time it wasn't Jalen Brown who said something.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
This time.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Instead it was a mentor of his, not a mentee,
Rob Parker, a mentor of his. Tracy McGrady, Hall of Famer,
does a podcast with his cousin, Vince Carter, and they
were talking about some of the NBA headlines that come
out of the first round.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
All Hall of Famers or not.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Thang it Rob, and of course Jalen Brown and his
comments and what happened in Boston came up, and during
the conversation, Tracy McGrady said something that everybody's ears perk
up just a little bit in Boston.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Take a listener.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
This frustration lies deeply within the organization and other things
that of course, of course we don't really have the
tells too. There's just been a lot of stuff, you know,
that I've been hearing just going on with the Boston
organization with JB you know. So I think part of
(01:29):
him is like I showed you guys more of who
I am as a basketball player, not only just you know,
what I did on the basketball court, but the leadership
that I displayed within you know, this team, and you've
seen that not having our you know, best player in
jt You've seen the different side of me and what
(01:51):
I I'm able to bring to the game of basketball.
So all that stuff, you know, I think just came
in to play with him and his frustration.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And I think we might be getting to a point
rob where he wants to spread his wings and fly,
not in a negative way either, meaning it doesn't have
to be I hate Jason Tatum, I hate the Celtics,
But I wondered if there's a point where because I
feel like Tracy McGrady was saying without saying, like one
of those that we've talked and I don't want to
tell all the those personal things he's told me, but
I can see a frustration in a broader sense to
(02:22):
Jaylen Brown more of the NBA as a whole. He
has When we had the Olympics, coming off of him
winning the finals MVP and all that, and he's known
in the league, he doesn't get chosen to the Olympics, right,
I think that puts a little burn in you. He also,
you are a finals MVP, but you're always number two.
Everybody thinks Jason Tatum and then you right or wrong.
That would add a little fuel to you as well.
(02:43):
And then you look at little small things that happened.
They had the All Star weekend out here in Los
Angeles this past February.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
His party gets shut down.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It was philanthropic party, was party with a cause, and
yet his gets shot down in Beverly.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
He has to do with the Celtics and his teammates.
I'll tell you, And so.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
If you let me finish, my point is I think
he's in a place as a respected person. What did
you come out of this past series talking about the
refs and why they do with me like that? I
think he's gotten to a place as a whole, as
the guide the NBA that he feels like he's being
maybe under rated, being a little up and represented on
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his own team. Maybe he wants a little bit more
pool you mentioned he mentioned, of course, look what he did.
They were competing for the number one seed in the
East and when everybody thought they would either be out
the playoffs or a lower seed. And I think there's
a point where he wants to feel we will win.
I want I want the responsibility of having my own team.
And remember James Harden with the thunder everybody said why
would you stay? Why don't you stay? Because I told
people that he wants his own team. He wants to
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be the man right or wrong, fail succeed. I want
to try that. Kobe and Shaq won a bunch of
rings and it was a point where it was just like,
I just want to try my Kobe always said I
just had to prove that I can win without Shack.
And I wondered if Jalen is getting to a place
where he is saying, man, I want more responsibility, I
want more of a power structure in within an organization,
(04:03):
and not that I don't like Jason Tatum. Not that
I hate this team, but I wonder if he's getting
to a place where he wants to spread his wings
and have his own thing. You know, you're at Edwards
with the Timberwolves, we know it's his team. You're Kay
with Detroit, we know it's your team. You're Denver with Joker,
we know it's your team. And I'm wondering if he's
getting to a place where all of these frustrations feeling
like I don't have that right now and I want that.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I just it makes no sense to me.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I'm serious, Like everybody's trying to find a partner, right
Kay needs a partner. You have a partner. You want
a championship. You've been to tomb This is what everybody
tries to find. And then if you're saying, how is
he being disrespected? Tatum had better numbers than him in
every single category. And guess who won the finals MVP
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Jalen Brown. So nobody disrespected him. The writers actually look
past the numbers, go look.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Rob g Am.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I wrong, he let in every single offensive category and
they still picked him as MVP. So I don't know.
The Olympics is another thing. Jason Tatum didn't play in
the Olympics. He got disrespected for whatever reason. So it
wasn't just like oh wow, you know, Jason Datum was
a starter and I didn't even make the team. No,
(05:16):
Jason Tatum felt like he got disrespected and how they
treated him in the Olympics. I just I just don't, dude,
if they want to leave or whatever and.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Try to find some other situations. I just you're leaving
a team where you were the.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Finals MVP when you want a championship saying I want
more respect. That's the ultimate respect. If I'm Jason Tatum,
maybe I'm like, ah, you know, like wow, like Jalen,
Jalen did this and held the team together when I
was gone, like they didn't need me. Maybe he's a guy.
Jalen Brown to me, had cemented himself. And I thought
(05:54):
this year when the way people looked at him showed
that he is that player, the party thing and all
that he was in Beverly Hills and you know how
people Karen's are all over the place, and if they
want to call the police on something, they don't know
who's there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
They didn't even know Jay that that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Was what But I'm talking about he believes this and
that's the whole point of it. But I just I
just think he has mentioned he thought you and I
disagree with him, but he thought the NBA and the
Refts are doing him, they having agenda against me. That's
I can't that's what he thinks, Hills. But saying that
he thinks is because he speaks out about things. He's
very vocal about, you know, social commentary.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
He takes that okay, and the writers could have easily said,
oh yeah, if they got this, NBA, don't give it
to Jalen Brown because he speaks out.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Of stuff like like, I like, what is the conspiracy?
Whose team is the Celtic Jason Tatum or James No,
it doesn't matter. I'm telling you to respect. Question whose
team is telling you respect? He gets who's whose team
is it? When people think of the Boston Celtics, who
team is it?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
They could think of Jason Tatum, all Ay Wanka.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
But what I'm telling and you like the guy who
won the finals MVP without the best numbers speaks volumes.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
To me, okay, so Andre that happens, all that that happens,
doesn't It does happen? All the time, does not Andrea
by fire had no way near the best numbers he got.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
That was because Steph.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
That was because Steph was terrible and his numbers were terrible.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
That's all that does happen. My point is I just
don't agree.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I think that if you could find a spot where
you could have somebody, where you're in the mix, where
you got a chance every single year, go ask Jannis
and ask all these people, all these guys who were
singular uh Luca when he was in Dallas and all
these other places, all these players, and ask them if
they're trying to find who's going to be my partner
(07:47):
in crime.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You have it.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
You've had success, You've been to the finals twice, You've
been in the mix every year.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's why I think where he didn't have his guy
and they were competing for almost with the one seed.
I think that both does wonders to you, going hmm,
makes you start to think a little bit. And again
within organizations, we've seen this happen where guys want to
flex their wings and spread their wings and flex their
muscles and have more say and have a little bit
(08:15):
of control. I want a championship and wanted to leave
who I just told you breaking up shaking Kobe's because.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
They had a person that was a personal beef too.
You know that.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I just told you James harden Is and then he
was winning, but he didn't write the finals, he didn't
win anything.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
He was right there in the finals.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
He knew that that was And I believe there's a
there could be a potential where you're saying, man, I
want to have more, say I want to do more things.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I want to be an I I I and you
want to spread your wings.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm absolutely saying the same thing.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh, go ahead, leave Milwaukee.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Trying to get Yannis to leave Milwaukee for years, I've
been telling you to make up you say.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I'm telling it himself keeps going on and office he
would be going down. Literally is the one I don't
I'm not saying I don't want to leave it. I
don't want to stay, but I don't want to leave.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
If you want to be gone, he would get the
right the right deal.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
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Speaker 6 (09:28):
Uh there was a report about the Patriots, about your
favorite couple that we keep getting stories about.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
My goodness, it's like Dynasty or Dallas Dallas, all those stories.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Those were like those were nighttime soapars right, and somebody
always wound up going down the stairs, you know what
I mean, like like like like that was the whole
everybody would fall down the staircase a big fit. But anyway,
uh so the report, Rob G told us what when
it comes to their coach, Mike Rabel.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
You know, this is a big story. When the NBA
played on it, the NBA.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Playoffs get pushed to the back burner because this is
the story that keeps signed.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I think it's you twoe y'all love this.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
It's relations dripping out news.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
When you're here, because when you hear stuff seriously and
I'm not Kelvin, this isn't a one time slipped you
know what I mean? Like you caught me out about
some sort of moment me and my wife was going through,
you know what I mean. I know it's some okay
to ROGI some theories I have about this. Okay, this
is bigger than that and Now you got to say
(10:34):
how much stuff was he given to feeding her? How
long was this going on? If you're the Tennessee Titans,
was he the one leaking all the information to her?
If you're the Patriots, how much does she know about
an organization they're doing pillow talk?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
She must know everything that's going on at this.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Point all that time? Am I right not to mention?
As we talked about it a million times? That's why
I was shocked. The athletic was just like, oh, what
you mean, No big deal, dude.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
You want to talk about a misstep by an executive.
He's fortunate, Yeah, because that was when we said it
at the time. I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Stood tall at us, not just a quick statement like
we're gonna investigate, we'll do it. She's been great with us.
We're gonna do a find out and do our work.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And no.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
They were like no, they were like no Ah, she said,
why y'all blowing it out of proportion?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I was like, Okay, With all that in mind, here's
the update gout. Yesterday, we touched on it briefly during
the show. TMZ Sports reported that six years ago, Russini
and Rabel had signed off for a boat rental. Privately,
she was actually pregnant during the time with her first child,
and in fact, earlier on Thursday, they had video evidence
that shows the two of them walking on the dock
(11:39):
towards the boat. She is super pregnant in that video.
The reason why this is a story now again today
is for two reasons. Number One, quarterback Drake May was
asked about it during a celebrity pro am golf tournament.
Who was asked about Vrabel in the situation and how
it's spilled over into the locker room, so on and
so forth. I'm sure to get to that. But number two,
(12:00):
longtime NFL insider Jason Lockinford has been covering the story,
reported on Thursday that despite all the controversy, all the salaciousness,
all the headlines surrounding their head coach Robert Kraft is
in a full support of Mike Rabel, has no intention
of putting him on a sabbatical suspension, much less firing him.
(12:22):
Mike Rabel going nowhere.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
No shocker that Mike Rabel's not going anywhere from the Patriots.
It's not because this is what this organization is steeped in, cheating, deceitfulness,
lowbrow conniving. There's always something with this franchise and.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Is this on? It's on.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
The reason Robert Kraft is not in the Pro Football
Hall of Fame despite winning six championships as an owner,
is exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Why.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Is what we're experiencing now with Mike Rabel It really is.
It speaks to the volume of where this franchise is
and what they value, which is not honesty. And that's
why he hasn't been rewarded. He won six championships as
an owner. He's been trying to get into the Pro
(13:25):
Football Hall of Fame for like over a decade and
they keep rejecting him.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
What would be the reason why? It can't be because
of football?
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Right, it's because of the dirty dealing, backstabbing, cheating, unfaithful
stuff that's gone on.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Of course, he's going to back his coach who.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Didn't slip up one time, but had decided that he
was going to have an ongoing affair allegedly with Diana Russin.
I'm just saying, and it is the Patriot way. That's
(14:09):
why Robert Kraft, I hope you never get in because
the idea that oh, well, because it wasn't an employee here.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It's okay, I get it.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
If it was an employee, probably be pressured by the
league because the league and the team would be held
responsible and she would be able to sue them. But
I'm not surprised. This is This is right up the alley.
This is the Patriots m O. And then Drake May
(14:42):
of all people to stand up there. You want to
back your coach, Kelvin, I'm cool with it. You want
to say, hey, it's a difficult time and I feel
for my cot.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Did you see the quote.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
He's a great human being that he was cheating on
his wife and kids with somebody else's wife who has
kids as well. That's a great human being. You could
say and support them. Hey, going through a tough time,
and I'm gonna support my coach and I hope it
works out for the best of him and his family.
I'm not talking about that. He's a great human being.
(15:19):
A guy who's deceitful, who cheats on his family and
cheats on his family with a with a married woman,
destroying that family as well.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Come on, man, come on. It sounds ridiculous, It sounds ludicrous.
It's crazy. Shoot.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I mean, I don't have much to act was broken
down with the soliloquy. I mean, really, it's just much
it's a few things that just echo to what you
were saying. I mean, I think with Robert Craft, I
think whether it be personally or how they've been running
the Patriots professionally, they've been there before. And what I
mean by that is we know they've had literally eat
(16:00):
both figuring me in literally scandals uh ho, you know,
from from the spy Gates to the flate Gates.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And every Barty.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Rumors were that Herring Hernett has had a lot of
baggs some things going on, they decided to still draft them,
and then even just other small little things throughout the time.
And then you add on his own personal stuff, right,
we know what happened, you know in the the Plaza,
the massage place that somehow, because for him to be
an owner, that just went away. But I think that's
because the power of being a billionaire being an owner
that just kind of came and went. And so I
(16:30):
think there's an element of him being like, hey, I've
been there before. I know what it's like to have
these kind of you know, uh sedious deeds you know
out there and kind of put people knowing your business.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I've been there.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Maybe he was there for him publicly, I mean privately
as a former player. You know, he was there for
me during my difficult times, shot me a call, shot
me at text, came and checked on me, you know,
as his former owner while he was a coach obviously
in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And I think that might play role. Right.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I have this personal relationship with this guy. He was
one of my players and he's been a friend of mine.
So I think that's friends sticking up for friends, organizations
sticking up for past players. And now you add into
it Drake May. I think the kid got put in
a tough spot. I totally hear what you're saying, but
I think him being so young, he's not like a
savvy veteran. I think he just you know, this is
why Rob I'm gonna take the bigger approach to this.
(17:17):
This is why coaches harp on gms, harp on organizations,
harp on no distractions. Because Drake May is trying to
just play in a golf tournament. Here, I am just
trying to have a golf tournament. And that question comes
to me, And if it were a coach, they would
bring this back to the team and what would they say. See,
this is why we don't want distractions. This is why
(17:37):
we don't want stuff like this happening, because it distracts
the team. We got to answer questions blah blah blah blah.
But this is because Drake May is a young guy.
I think he doesn't know how to you know, I
know how to handle it. I'm just I don't know
who they run up with. Mike's I love a coach.
He's a great guy, so I think that's not what
he's saying. It's a great human being. But I'm saying
I think when he's a young guy in a position
where he I don't know how to handle this, Like
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I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Nobody has this on.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
They tell me what to do when there's a blitz,
they tell me what to do when they're putting a
Tampa too. I don't know how to handle questions about
you know. And that my bigger point taking it more
off of him is this is why this is a
scenario that Rabel has now put his star quarterback in.
Why I gotta answer questions like this and then people
like Rob and Kelvin have to even address how I
answered it, you know what I mean. If this didn't
(18:20):
never happened, we would be asking him how do you
bounce back from a Super Bowl loss? So that's why
a coach showing why there's supposed to be no these
types of the distractions, because now you have your star
quarterback answering it where people can now dissect his answer
and kind of be disappointed in his response. So this
is a prime example of why you're trying to keep
these distractions limited and limit them. So but again, I
(18:43):
don't think there's any surprise for me with Rob We
you know, we talked about it in real time.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
What's happened.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Robert Craft's gonna stick by one of his guys, tried
and true patriot, been there, blood, sweat, tears, won championships,
and now he's back in the fold, got them to
a super Bowl last season. And not to mention, Robert
Craft has his own you know, discretion. Absolutely I see him.
He's gonna stand by him. But that to your larger point,
there seems to always be a cloud of something.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
That's why they don't get the respectized That's why they
don't get the respect. That's why Bill Belichick didn't get
it in the first ballance. That's why Robert Kraft's not
in the Hall of Fame. People know what this organization is,
and Mike Rabel's scandal is so patriot like it fits.
And then for them to act like nothing happened. And
for Robert krafft oh yeah, okay, that's good. That's the
(19:31):
guy you want leading your organization. But then again, you're
in charge of the organization, so it fits.
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Speaker 4 (20:18):
Guys, I don't want to make it seem like it's sour,
Greg because I'm the resident Laker fan on this show.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Is great.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
But when you have Legion of Hoops, when you have ESPN,
when you have bet MGM, when you have bleacher freaking
foot locker weighing in on the officiating in that game,
you know it's gone bad.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
In case you lived under a rock, last night, Game two,
Oklahoma City wins going away as they were.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Expecting to it. The Lakers didn't cover the fifteen and
then I couldn't do that and couldn't do that.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
No, the Oklahoma City closed for most of the game,
and they pulled away in the third.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
They end up win going away, But all anybody wanted
to talk about was the Oklahoma City Thunder and what
they do to the officiating on two hands one number one,
they will grab, clutch, hold, elbow, whatever it takes. On
the defensive end, it's part of what makes them such
an elite defensive team.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Kudos to them.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
But on the flip side, on the offensive end, they
will flop and flail and whine and cry and do
all the things that people hate about today's NBA.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
It was so bad.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You had Austin Reeves calling the official a word I
can't say on the air and have a powow with
him after the game and in the postgame, JJ Reddick
let his frustrations be known.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Yeah, I mean, I sarcastically said the other day they
were the most disruptive team without fouling. I mean, they
have a few guys that foul on every possession and
all the good defenses. Do you know SGA gets like
a I don't even know a touch fowl. I guess
on the drive there was a stretch where four straight possessions,
our guys got absolutely clobbered trying to make an entry
(21:53):
pass to Jackson and Jalen Williams is grabbing his jersey
with both arms. That's a turn, Like we just they're
they're hard enough to play. They're hard enough to play.
You've got to be able to just call it if
they fail, and they.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Do fail, you know, I can't stand JJ Reddick. I'll
just be clear with that. But I'm gonna say this,
this is why nobody likes the Oklahoma City Thunder when
people last, how come people don't embrace this team?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It was through draft picks.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
It was due that the idea that that it was
homegrown and they built this and they and they're young,
exciting guys, and they win and all they do is win,
and and why don't people embrace this franchise? Last night
was exhibit a on why people don't embrace the OKC
thunder their garbage.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
It's a terrible watch.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
During the regular season, right, It's unbelievable how much they
get away with it.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yes, they play great defense, could they.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Do foul SGA? All he does is get calls. He's
doing the same thing to everybody else, and no call
it when he's doing it, and when people do it
to him, they call it. It is unwatchable. Normally, I
don't want to hear the coach JJ Reddick belly yaching
(23:22):
about officials. But we've seen this act long enough and
it's awful to watch. It's a bad brand of basketball.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
It is.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
It's must turn off TV, That's what it is. Must
turn off TV because who wants to watch this garbage?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I heard somebody say, Adam doing your med coan minionaires,
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (23:45):
I've been covering this damn league since nineteen eighty seven
and it is absolute garbage to watch.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
What people watched last night. The idea that foot locker would.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Chime in and they're not even trying to hawk any
sneakers tells you all you need to know. It was
that bad, that blatant, that people don't even want to
what is this? Can you let them play basketball and
earn it? If they're that great awful Kelvin, I'm telling
you absolutely, why would you watch that?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
What made it crazy, Rob is when the Pistons won yesterday,
to you guys's point, all the sites, hey good comeback,
or kay ou a big fourth quarter, when the Knicks
one or Knicks you know they eke out a win
and gets six, or when the Spurs win, way to
come back, bounce back from a game, when the thunderwin.
This wasn't just comments in the hater section or something.
(24:38):
This was coming from sight saying look at all these
non calls, or look at Sga here, or look at
chet flapping. And that's what made it interesting because you
expect comments to hey, right comin, people are and hey,
oh this person that Lebron is of this, Katie's of that.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
That's what the comments section is for.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I think what shocked me this time was actual legitimate
outlets leading with that, you know, leading with those those concerns,
leading with the flopping, because normally they would just say
SGA and the Thunder take control of the series, or
they were saying do you not see that?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Do you not see this? And when the first thing
I'll day, I'm scrolling.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
That's everybody from basketball guys blogs I follow.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
That was the main thing everyone talked about.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And when you start to dive into it, Rob, what
made me upset was that, Okay, if it's one thing
to get it an offensive file Ali James Harden style,
he did for years, and that's not what SGA does.
That's one thing you can't do it on the other end.
You can't be supposedly tough and good on defense and
rugged on defense and then be acting real weak on
(25:43):
the offensive, falling and flopping everywhere.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Right, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
The Pistons they're rugged, they get in there, they you know,
they muck.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
You up a little bit. Dispers do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Got a bunch of guys who defense, they don't flop
and flail everywhere. And I think that's why people get
upset with the Thunder because they are good defensively they
do are. They are handsy and they are a little rough,
and you're okay with that because you would think those
guys can accept that and take that.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
On the other end, that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And when you look at you not even getting hit
in the face and flying everywhere, Sga dag near broke
of Three's arms and gave him a shot to the ribs,
and what's flabbergasted when the refs call to follow him.
I'm like, dude, we all saw you grab his arm
and elbow him. It's absolutely unnecessary. And I'll say it
this way, rob what makes this team difficult? And I've
(26:29):
been You've You've I've been biting my tongue. I've been
wanting to watch more. I've been thinking maybe we're having
were exaggerating a little bit. Last night, As I told
ROGI was kind of the final show for me because
I'm thinking, all right, well, you know what, maybe it's
not that bad, Maybe we're overreacting. Maybe it's just the
day and age. What makes it upsetting is because they
don't have to do this. You know, it made some
people upset with Barry Bonds and Alex Rodriguez and Roger
(26:53):
Clemens is because those three were amazing pre allegedly steroids
for a couple of them, they were great. And that's
what made people upset, because, man, if you're a Rod,
you already with the most talent. They gave you two
hundred fifty million dollars because you were that great. Now
you're doing steroids, and it's like, you don't have to
you're already great. And I think that's what the Oklahoma
(27:13):
City thundered. Y'all don't have to flop and flail. You're
the deepest team by far, you have the best scorer
in the league, you played great defense, you got a
good roster. You don't have to do that. You're the
reigning champs. And I think that's why people are set
with it. You don't have to. You don't have to
take the juice if you will, because you're already great.
You're already Barry Bond's amazing, Roger Clemens a Rod, and
(27:35):
these guys, why are we tainting what you do?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
And that's what the thunder are doing.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
They're tainting the greatness of the team because now they're
overclouded by that. That's all we're looking at, that's all
we're focusing on. And it's unnecessary and I needed because
they're so deep, they're so well coached, they got the
best scorer in the league, and they can win without it.
And I think that's what's frustrating Rod. They're not a
desperate team, you know what I mean? Where this, Hey,
what we gonna do? This is all we can do,
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not that. So it makes people go, well, why are
y'all doing that? You don't even need to do this.
It's like Mike Tyson in his prime was putting salt
on his gloves, so you know, the blind is his opponent.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It's like you're.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Tyson nineteen eighty eight, knocking everybody out in ten seconds.
The last thing you need to do is be finding
other ways to cheat.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
All right, Rob, g Uh, We're hear more and more
from somebody who's supposed to be not mentioned necessarily because
he hadn't in the playoffs anymore, That is Jylen Brown.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Interestingly enough, this time it wasn't Jalen Brown who said something.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
This time.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Instead it was a mentor of his, not a mentee,
Rob Parker, a mentor of his. Tracy McGrady, Hall of Famer,
does a podcast with his cousin, Vince Carter, and they
were talking about some of the NBA headlines that come
out of the first round.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
All Hall of Famers or not.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Thang it Rob, and of course Jalen Brown and his
comments and what happened in Boston came up, and during
the conversation, Tracy McGrady said something that everybody's ears perk
up just a little bit in Boston.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Take a listener.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
This frustration lies deeply within the organization and other things
that of course, of course we don't really have the
tells too. There's just been a lot of stuff, you know,
that I've been hearing just going on with the Boston
organization with JB you know. So I think part of
(01:29):
him is like I showed you guys more of who
I am as a basketball player, not only just you know,
what I did on the basketball court, but the leadership
that I displayed within you know, this team, and you've
seen that not having our you know, best player in
jt You've seen the different side of me and what
(01:51):
I I'm able to bring to the game of basketball.
So all that stuff, you know, I think just came
in to play with him and his frustration.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And I think we might be getting to a point
rob where he wants to spread his wings and fly,
not in a negative way either, meaning it doesn't have
to be I hate Jason Tatum, I hate the Celtics,
But I wondered if there's a point where because I
feel like Tracy McGrady was saying without saying, like one
of those that we've talked and I don't want to
tell all the those personal things he's told me, but
I can see a frustration in a broader sense to
(02:22):
Jaylen Brown more of the NBA as a whole. He
has When we had the Olympics, coming off of him
winning the finals MVP and all that, and he's known
in the league, he doesn't get chosen to the Olympics, right,
I think that puts a little burn in you. He also,
you are a finals MVP, but you're always number two.
Everybody thinks Jason Tatum and then you right or wrong.
That would add a little fuel to you as well.
(02:43):
And then you look at little small things that happened.
They had the All Star weekend out here in Los
Angeles this past February.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
His party gets shut down.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It was philanthropic party, was party with a cause, and
yet his gets shot down in Beverly.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
He has to do with the Celtics and his teammates.
I'll tell you, And so.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
If you let me finish, my point is I think
he's in a place as a respected person. What did
you come out of this past series talking about the
refs and why they do with me like that? I
think he's gotten to a place as a whole, as
the guide the NBA that he feels like he's being
maybe under rated, being a little up and represented on
(03:20):
his own team. Maybe he wants a little bit more
pool you mentioned he mentioned, of course, look what he did.
They were competing for the number one seed in the
East and when everybody thought they would either be out
the playoffs or a lower seed. And I think there's
a point where he wants to feel we will win.
I want I want the responsibility of having my own team.
And remember James Harden with the thunder everybody said why
would you stay? Why don't you stay? Because I told
people that he wants his own team. He wants to
(03:42):
be the man right or wrong, fail succeed. I want
to try that. Kobe and Shaq won a bunch of
rings and it was a point where it was just like,
I just want to try my Kobe always said I
just had to prove that I can win without Shack.
And I wondered if Jalen is getting to a place
where he is saying, man, I want more responsibility, I
want more of a power structure in within an organization,
(04:03):
and not that I don't like Jason Tatum. Not that
I hate this team, but I wonder if he's getting
to a place where he wants to spread his wings
and have his own thing. You know, you're at Edwards
with the Timberwolves, we know it's his team. You're Kay
with Detroit, we know it's your team. You're Denver with Joker,
we know it's your team. And I'm wondering if he's
getting to a place where all of these frustrations feeling
like I don't have that right now and I want that.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I just it makes no sense to me.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I'm serious, Like everybody's trying to find a partner, right
Kay needs a partner. You have a partner. You want
a championship. You've been to tomb This is what everybody
tries to find. And then if you're saying, how is
he being disrespected? Tatum had better numbers than him in
every single category. And guess who won the finals MVP
(04:48):
Jalen Brown. So nobody disrespected him. The writers actually look
past the numbers, go look.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Rob g Am.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I wrong, he let in every single offensive category and
they still picked him as MVP. So I don't know.
The Olympics is another thing. Jason Tatum didn't play in
the Olympics. He got disrespected for whatever reason. So it
wasn't just like oh wow, you know, Jason Datum was
a starter and I didn't even make the team. No,
(05:16):
Jason Tatum felt like he got disrespected and how they
treated him in the Olympics. I just I just don't, dude,
if they want to leave or whatever and.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Try to find some other situations. I just you're leaving
a team where you were the.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Finals MVP when you want a championship saying I want
more respect. That's the ultimate respect. If I'm Jason Tatum,
maybe I'm like, ah, you know, like wow, like Jalen,
Jalen did this and held the team together when I
was gone, like they didn't need me. Maybe he's a guy.
Jalen Brown to me, had cemented himself. And I thought
(05:54):
this year when the way people looked at him showed
that he is that player, the party thing and all
that he was in Beverly Hills and you know how
people Karen's are all over the place, and if they
want to call the police on something, they don't know
who's there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
They didn't even know Jay that that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Was what But I'm talking about he believes this and
that's the whole point of it. But I just I
just think he has mentioned he thought you and I
disagree with him, but he thought the NBA and the
Refts are doing him, they having agenda against me. That's
I can't that's what he thinks, Hills. But saying that
he thinks is because he speaks out about things. He's
very vocal about, you know, social commentary.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
He takes that okay, and the writers could have easily said,
oh yeah, if they got this, NBA, don't give it
to Jalen Brown because he speaks out.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Of stuff like like, I like, what is the conspiracy?
Whose team is the Celtic Jason Tatum or James No,
it doesn't matter. I'm telling you to respect. Question whose
team is telling you respect? He gets who's whose team
is it? When people think of the Boston Celtics, who
team is it?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
They could think of Jason Tatum, all Ay Wanka.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
But what I'm telling and you like the guy who
won the finals MVP without the best numbers speaks volumes.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
To me, okay, so Andre that happens, all that that happens,
doesn't It does happen? All the time, does not Andrea
by fire had no way near the best numbers he got.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
That was because Steph.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
That was because Steph was terrible and his numbers were terrible.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
That's all that does happen. My point is I just
don't agree.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I think that if you could find a spot where
you could have somebody, where you're in the mix, where
you got a chance every single year, go ask Jannis
and ask all these people, all these guys who were
singular uh Luca when he was in Dallas and all
these other places, all these players, and ask them if
they're trying to find who's going to be my partner
(07:47):
in crime.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You have it.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
You've had success, You've been to the finals twice, You've
been in the mix every year.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's why I think where he didn't have his guy
and they were competing for almost with the one seed.
I think that both does wonders to you, going hmm,
makes you start to think a little bit. And again
within organizations, we've seen this happen where guys want to
flex their wings and spread their wings and flex their
muscles and have more say and have a little bit
(08:15):
of control. I want a championship and wanted to leave
who I just told you breaking up shaking Kobe's because.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
They had a person that was a personal beef too.
You know that.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I just told you James harden Is and then he
was winning, but he didn't write the finals, he didn't
win anything.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
He was right there in the finals.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
He knew that that was And I believe there's a
there could be a potential where you're saying, man, I
want to have more, say I want to do more things.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I want to be an I I I and you
want to spread your wings.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm absolutely saying the same thing.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh, go ahead, leave Milwaukee.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Trying to get Yannis to leave Milwaukee for years, I've
been telling you to make up you say.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I'm telling it himself keeps going on and office he
would be going down. Literally is the one I don't
I'm not saying I don't want to leave it. I
don't want to stay, but I don't want to leave.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
If you want to be gone, he would get the
right the right deal.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
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Speaker 6 (09:28):
Uh there was a report about the Patriots, about your
favorite couple that we keep getting stories about.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
My goodness, it's like Dynasty or Dallas Dallas, all those stories.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Those were like those were nighttime soapars right, and somebody
always wound up going down the stairs, you know what
I mean, like like like like that was the whole
everybody would fall down the staircase a big fit. But anyway,
uh so the report, Rob G told us what when
it comes to their coach, Mike Rabel.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
You know, this is a big story. When the NBA
played on it, the NBA.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Playoffs get pushed to the back burner because this is
the story that keeps signed.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I think it's you twoe y'all love this.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
It's relations dripping out news.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
When you're here, because when you hear stuff seriously and
I'm not Kelvin, this isn't a one time slipped you
know what I mean? Like you caught me out about
some sort of moment me and my wife was going through,
you know what I mean. I know it's some okay
to ROGI some theories I have about this. Okay, this
is bigger than that and Now you got to say
(10:34):
how much stuff was he given to feeding her? How
long was this going on? If you're the Tennessee Titans,
was he the one leaking all the information to her?
If you're the Patriots, how much does she know about
an organization they're doing pillow talk?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
She must know everything that's going on at this.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Point all that time? Am I right not to mention?
As we talked about it a million times? That's why
I was shocked. The athletic was just like, oh, what
you mean, No big deal, dude.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
You want to talk about a misstep by an executive.
He's fortunate, Yeah, because that was when we said it
at the time. I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Stood tall at us, not just a quick statement like
we're gonna investigate, we'll do it. She's been great with us.
We're gonna do a find out and do our work.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And no.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
They were like no, they were like no Ah, she said,
why y'all blowing it out of proportion?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I was like, Okay, With all that in mind, here's
the update gout. Yesterday, we touched on it briefly during
the show. TMZ Sports reported that six years ago, Russini
and Rabel had signed off for a boat rental. Privately,
she was actually pregnant during the time with her first child,
and in fact, earlier on Thursday, they had video evidence
that shows the two of them walking on the dock
(11:39):
towards the boat. She is super pregnant in that video.
The reason why this is a story now again today
is for two reasons. Number One, quarterback Drake May was
asked about it during a celebrity pro am golf tournament.
Who was asked about Vrabel in the situation and how
it's spilled over into the locker room, so on and
so forth. I'm sure to get to that. But number two,
(12:00):
longtime NFL insider Jason Lockinford has been covering the story,
reported on Thursday that despite all the controversy, all the salaciousness,
all the headlines surrounding their head coach Robert Kraft is
in a full support of Mike Rabel, has no intention
of putting him on a sabbatical suspension, much less firing him.
(12:22):
Mike Rabel going nowhere.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
No shocker that Mike Rabel's not going anywhere from the Patriots.
It's not because this is what this organization is steeped in, cheating, deceitfulness,
lowbrow conniving. There's always something with this franchise and.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Is this on? It's on.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
The reason Robert Kraft is not in the Pro Football
Hall of Fame despite winning six championships as an owner,
is exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Why.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Is what we're experiencing now with Mike Rabel It really is.
It speaks to the volume of where this franchise is
and what they value, which is not honesty. And that's
why he hasn't been rewarded. He won six championships as
an owner. He's been trying to get into the Pro
(13:25):
Football Hall of Fame for like over a decade and
they keep rejecting him.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
What would be the reason why? It can't be because
of football?
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Right, it's because of the dirty dealing, backstabbing, cheating, unfaithful
stuff that's gone on.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Of course, he's going to back his coach who.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Didn't slip up one time, but had decided that he
was going to have an ongoing affair allegedly with Diana Russin.
I'm just saying, and it is the Patriot way. That's
(14:09):
why Robert Kraft, I hope you never get in because
the idea that oh, well, because it wasn't an employee here.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It's okay, I get it.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
If it was an employee, probably be pressured by the
league because the league and the team would be held
responsible and she would be able to sue them. But
I'm not surprised. This is This is right up the alley.
This is the Patriots m O. And then Drake May
(14:42):
of all people to stand up there. You want to
back your coach, Kelvin, I'm cool with it. You want
to say, hey, it's a difficult time and I feel
for my cot.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Did you see the quote.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
He's a great human being that he was cheating on
his wife and kids with somebody else's wife who has
kids as well. That's a great human being. You could
say and support them. Hey, going through a tough time,
and I'm gonna support my coach and I hope it
works out for the best of him and his family.
I'm not talking about that. He's a great human being.
(15:19):
A guy who's deceitful, who cheats on his family and
cheats on his family with a with a married woman,
destroying that family as well.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Come on, man, come on. It sounds ridiculous, It sounds ludicrous.
It's crazy. Shoot.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I mean, I don't have much to act was broken
down with the soliloquy. I mean, really, it's just much
it's a few things that just echo to what you
were saying. I mean, I think with Robert Craft, I
think whether it be personally or how they've been running
the Patriots professionally, they've been there before. And what I
mean by that is we know they've had literally eat
(16:00):
both figuring me in literally scandals uh ho, you know,
from from the spy Gates to the flate Gates.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And every Barty.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Rumors were that Herring Hernett has had a lot of
baggs some things going on, they decided to still draft them,
and then even just other small little things throughout the time.
And then you add on his own personal stuff, right,
we know what happened, you know in the the Plaza,
the massage place that somehow, because for him to be
an owner, that just went away. But I think that's
because the power of being a billionaire being an owner
that just kind of came and went. And so I
(16:30):
think there's an element of him being like, hey, I've
been there before. I know what it's like to have
these kind of you know, uh sedious deeds you know
out there and kind of put people knowing your business.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I've been there.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Maybe he was there for him publicly, I mean privately
as a former player. You know, he was there for
me during my difficult times, shot me a call, shot
me at text, came and checked on me, you know,
as his former owner while he was a coach obviously
in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And I think that might play role. Right.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I have this personal relationship with this guy. He was
one of my players and he's been a friend of mine.
So I think that's friends sticking up for friends, organizations
sticking up for past players. And now you add into
it Drake May. I think the kid got put in
a tough spot. I totally hear what you're saying, but
I think him being so young, he's not like a
savvy veteran. I think he just you know, this is
why Rob I'm gonna take the bigger approach to this.
(17:17):
This is why coaches harp on gms, harp on organizations,
harp on no distractions. Because Drake May is trying to
just play in a golf tournament. Here, I am just
trying to have a golf tournament. And that question comes
to me, And if it were a coach, they would
bring this back to the team and what would they say. See,
this is why we don't want distractions. This is why
(17:37):
we don't want stuff like this happening, because it distracts
the team. We got to answer questions blah blah blah blah.
But this is because Drake May is a young guy.
I think he doesn't know how to you know, I
know how to handle it. I'm just I don't know
who they run up with. Mike's I love a coach.
He's a great guy, so I think that's not what
he's saying. It's a great human being. But I'm saying
I think when he's a young guy in a position
where he I don't know how to handle this, Like
(17:58):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Nobody has this on.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
They tell me what to do when there's a blitz,
they tell me what to do when they're putting a
Tampa too. I don't know how to handle questions about
you know. And that my bigger point taking it more
off of him is this is why this is a
scenario that Rabel has now put his star quarterback in.
Why I gotta answer questions like this and then people
like Rob and Kelvin have to even address how I
answered it, you know what I mean. If this didn't
(18:20):
never happened, we would be asking him how do you
bounce back from a Super Bowl loss? So that's why
a coach showing why there's supposed to be no these
types of the distractions, because now you have your star
quarterback answering it where people can now dissect his answer
and kind of be disappointed in his response. So this
is a prime example of why you're trying to keep
these distractions limited and limit them. So but again, I
(18:43):
don't think there's any surprise for me with Rob We
you know, we talked about it in real time.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
What's happened.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Robert Craft's gonna stick by one of his guys, tried
and true patriot, been there, blood, sweat, tears, won championships,
and now he's back in the fold, got them to
a super Bowl last season. And not to mention, Robert
Craft has his own you know, discretion. Absolutely I see him.
He's gonna stand by him. But that to your larger point,
there seems to always be a cloud of something.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
That's why they don't get the respectized That's why they
don't get the respect. That's why Bill Belichick didn't get
it in the first ballance. That's why Robert Kraft's not
in the Hall of Fame. People know what this organization is,
and Mike Rabel's scandal is so patriot like it fits.
And then for them to act like nothing happened. And
for Robert krafft oh yeah, okay, that's good. That's the
(19:31):
guy you want leading your organization. But then again, you're
in charge of the organization, so it fits.
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Speaker 4 (20:18):
Guys, I don't want to make it seem like it's sour,
Greg because I'm the resident Laker fan on this show.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Is great.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
But when you have Legion of Hoops, when you have ESPN,
when you have bet MGM, when you have bleacher freaking
foot locker weighing in on the officiating in that game,
you know it's gone bad.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
In case you lived under a rock, last night, Game two,
Oklahoma City wins going away as they were.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Expecting to it. The Lakers didn't cover the fifteen and
then I couldn't do that and couldn't do that.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
No, the Oklahoma City closed for most of the game,
and they pulled away in the third.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
They end up win going away, But all anybody wanted
to talk about was the Oklahoma City Thunder and what
they do to the officiating on two hands one number one,
they will grab, clutch, hold, elbow, whatever it takes. On
the defensive end, it's part of what makes them such
an elite defensive team.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Kudos to them.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
But on the flip side, on the offensive end, they
will flop and flail and whine and cry and do
all the things that people hate about today's NBA.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
It was so bad.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You had Austin Reeves calling the official a word I
can't say on the air and have a powow with
him after the game and in the postgame, JJ Reddick
let his frustrations be known.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Yeah, I mean, I sarcastically said the other day they
were the most disruptive team without fouling. I mean, they
have a few guys that foul on every possession and
all the good defenses. Do you know SGA gets like
a I don't even know a touch fowl. I guess
on the drive there was a stretch where four straight possessions,
our guys got absolutely clobbered trying to make an entry
(21:53):
pass to Jackson and Jalen Williams is grabbing his jersey
with both arms. That's a turn, Like we just they're
they're hard enough to play. They're hard enough to play.
You've got to be able to just call it if
they fail, and they.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Do fail, you know, I can't stand JJ Reddick. I'll
just be clear with that. But I'm gonna say this,
this is why nobody likes the Oklahoma City Thunder when
people last, how come people don't embrace this team?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It was through draft picks.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
It was due that the idea that that it was
homegrown and they built this and they and they're young,
exciting guys, and they win and all they do is win,
and and why don't people embrace this franchise? Last night
was exhibit a on why people don't embrace the OKC
thunder their garbage.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
It's a terrible watch.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
During the regular season, right, It's unbelievable how much they
get away with it.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yes, they play great defense, could they.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Do foul SGA? All he does is get calls. He's
doing the same thing to everybody else, and no call
it when he's doing it, and when people do it
to him, they call it. It is unwatchable. Normally, I
don't want to hear the coach JJ Reddick belly yaching
(23:22):
about officials. But we've seen this act long enough and
it's awful to watch. It's a bad brand of basketball.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
It is.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
It's must turn off TV, That's what it is. Must
turn off TV because who wants to watch this garbage?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I heard somebody say, Adam doing your med coan minionaires,
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (23:45):
I've been covering this damn league since nineteen eighty seven
and it is absolute garbage to watch.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
What people watched last night. The idea that foot locker would.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Chime in and they're not even trying to hawk any
sneakers tells you all you need to know. It was
that bad, that blatant, that people don't even want to
what is this? Can you let them play basketball and
earn it? If they're that great awful Kelvin, I'm telling
you absolutely, why would you watch that?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
What made it crazy, Rob is when the Pistons won yesterday,
to you guys's point, all the sites, hey good comeback,
or kay ou a big fourth quarter, when the Knicks
one or Knicks you know they eke out a win
and gets six, or when the Spurs win, way to
come back, bounce back from a game, when the thunderwin.
This wasn't just comments in the hater section or something.
(24:38):
This was coming from sight saying look at all these
non calls, or look at Sga here, or look at
chet flapping. And that's what made it interesting because you
expect comments to hey, right comin, people are and hey,
oh this person that Lebron is of this, Katie's of that.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
That's what the comments section is for.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I think what shocked me this time was actual legitimate
outlets leading with that, you know, leading with those those concerns,
leading with the flopping, because normally they would just say
SGA and the Thunder take control of the series, or
they were saying do you not see that?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Do you not see this? And when the first thing
I'll day, I'm scrolling.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
That's everybody from basketball guys blogs I follow.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
That was the main thing everyone talked about.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And when you start to dive into it, Rob, what
made me upset was that, Okay, if it's one thing
to get it an offensive file Ali James Harden style,
he did for years, and that's not what SGA does.
That's one thing you can't do it on the other end.
You can't be supposedly tough and good on defense and
rugged on defense and then be acting real weak on
(25:43):
the offensive, falling and flopping everywhere.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Right, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
The Pistons they're rugged, they get in there, they you know,
they muck.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
You up a little bit. Dispers do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Got a bunch of guys who defense, they don't flop
and flail everywhere. And I think that's why people get
upset with the Thunder because they are good defensively they
do are. They are handsy and they are a little rough,
and you're okay with that because you would think those
guys can accept that and take that.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
On the other end, that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And when you look at you not even getting hit
in the face and flying everywhere, Sga dag near broke
of Three's arms and gave him a shot to the ribs,
and what's flabbergasted when the refs call to follow him.
I'm like, dude, we all saw you grab his arm
and elbow him. It's absolutely unnecessary. And I'll say it
this way, rob what makes this team difficult? And I've
(26:29):
been You've You've I've been biting my tongue. I've been
wanting to watch more. I've been thinking maybe we're having
were exaggerating a little bit. Last night, As I told
ROGI was kind of the final show for me because
I'm thinking, all right, well, you know what, maybe it's
not that bad, Maybe we're overreacting. Maybe it's just the
day and age. What makes it upsetting is because they
don't have to do this. You know, it made some
people upset with Barry Bonds and Alex Rodriguez and Roger
(26:53):
Clemens is because those three were amazing pre allegedly steroids
for a couple of them, they were great. And that's
what made people upset, because, man, if you're a Rod,
you already with the most talent. They gave you two
hundred fifty million dollars because you were that great. Now
you're doing steroids, and it's like, you don't have to
you're already great. And I think that's what the Oklahoma
(27:13):
City thundered. Y'all don't have to flop and flail. You're
the deepest team by far, you have the best scorer
in the league, you played great defense, you got a
good roster. You don't have to do that. You're the
reigning champs. And I think that's why people are set
with it. You don't have to. You don't have to
take the juice if you will, because you're already great.
You're already Barry Bond's amazing, Roger Clemens a Rod, and
(27:35):
these guys, why are we tainting what you do?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
And that's what the thunder are doing.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
They're tainting the greatness of the team because now they're
overclouded by that. That's all we're looking at, that's all
we're focusing on. And it's unnecessary and I needed because
they're so deep, they're so well coached, they got the
best scorer in the league, and they can win without it.
And I think that's what's frustrating Rod. They're not a
desperate team, you know what I mean? Where this, Hey,
what we gonna do? This is all we can do,
(28:00):
not that. So it makes people go, well, why are
y'all doing that? You don't even need to do this.
It's like Mike Tyson in his prime was putting salt
on his gloves, so you know, the blind is his opponent.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It's like you're.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Tyson nineteen eighty eight, knocking everybody out in ten seconds.
The last thing you need to do is be finding
other ways to cheat.
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