September 12, 2026 • 48 mins
Rob Parker & Kerry Rhodes are in for Dan and the Danette's on a Labor Day edition of The Dan Patrick Show. The guys are furious about Michigan's Hail Mary, to which Rob says it's time to abolish instant replay. Sleep expert Dr. Meeta Singh joins the show to talk about the sleep issues experienced by many professional athletes on the eve of the Rams and 49ers playing in Australia. And Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young joins Dan to talk about the travel logistics handled by the Rams and 49ers to play in Australia, who’s facing the biggest questions in this NFL season, what kind of fights he would get into; Steve and Dan spar over his golf game at Tahoe too.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in. Good morning. Is it Labor Day? Labor Day.
It is Labor Day.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
And this is the Dan Patrick Show. Rob Parker with
former All-Pro safety, of course, Kerry Rhodes, who we normally
would do the odd couple.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Kerry fill in for Kelvin Washington. And we're sitting in
for Dan and the Danettes.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And, man. Can the rain stop here in Los Angeles? No,
keep it going.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
It like rained all day yesterday. Keep it going a
little bit, Rob. It's been hot.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's been hot out here.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I was like, my goodness gracious. Man, we got a
great show for you today. A lot of stuff to
get to. Of course it's a holiday, and of course
I'm working. You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (00:47):
That's what I do. It seems like I do that
with you. I'm kind of like, I might be the
new Rob Parker when it.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Comes to that.
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A lot to get into, especially, oh, my God, college football, Michigan,
all that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
We're going to do that. But I guess you could
say a little breaking news.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Tua has been named the starting quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Where are you on that? Are you overly surprised?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Not surprised at all.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
I mean, he's going to be the best player that
they have in this situation to get it done. Penix
hasn't had a lot of time this camp. He's been injured.
And for me, this whole thing with Tua and the Falcons, man,
it was a couple years ago when he got hurt
and he kept getting the concussion stuff, and I was
literally scared for him. I wanted him to retire, Rob.
The fact that he came back and had a terrible
(02:12):
year last year with Miami and It just kind of,
you know, it didn't seem right at all for him
last year. Like, it seems like he was trying to
overcompensate for some of the talk that people have been
talking about throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But it's crazy. This is a guy who put up
a 70 piece.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know what I'm like? And that's what I'm saying.
So for me in this situation. And some of his
numbers two years ago, he had some of the best
numbers in the NFL. He did, Rob. As a quarterback.
That's why with this team, they have everything else. And
that's the crazy part.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Like, you can't pick anybody in the South to win it, really.
But I think Atlanta has the most talent. And if
he can just go out there and play like Tua,
like we know, then I think that team can be good, man.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So it sucks. It sucks. It's a good call. But
it's one of those things where, come on, man, they
got to get together.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And as far as panics, I think at some point
the Falcons are going to have to cut their panics out.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I mean appendix out.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Oh, no. Okay. Here you go.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You started early. You're going to go that way early.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What you got? They need to cut it? They need
to cut it out? Absolutely. At some point.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Penix.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I've seen flashes, but, I mean, Penix, if he's that guy,
should have beat out Tua.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Like, he's the guy who was drafted there.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
He's the guy.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
All the signs are that they're not happy with him, right?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
If you're Penix, I don't know how you feel anything
other than, you know, they really don't believe in me.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
No, they can't.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
Right?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
He just hasn't had enough time to be healthy either.
And that's been his track record already. I mean, Rob,
he had multiple injuries in college where we saw flashes,
but we never seen enough from him.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
No doubt. But the big story. Oh, my God.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Wake the kids. Call the neighbors. The Michigan Western Michigan.
Because that's what it was. It was as bad as
it gets. It was so bad, so crooked, I had
to make sure, I thought at least, that Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Was still coaching. Because, of course, it was cheating.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Involved, and Michigan was involved. So I just figured, Jim Harbaugh,
is he still coach? I thought he went to the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Don't be giving no residual effects of this stuff to
Harbaugh right now.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Get him on.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Cheating is cheating, and Michigan always seems to be on this.
I'm going to say this character. It's moments like this
where I think we should abolish instant replay. Because instant replay,
to me, sure, you want to get calls right, right?
(04:35):
But when a call is, when you take away something from, somebody,
I think it hurts even more. And that's what I
felt like. I don't want to hear about there's another clock.
Like I've watched football my whole life. What other clock
is there, right? Shouldn't that be there's a game clock,
there's a clock in the stadium, that's not the game clock?
(04:59):
Like NBC flashed a cup, you know, final. 12-7, Western Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I turned it off.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Of course you did. And Michigan fans, disgraceful. You're going
to run out on the field after you play Western.
What were they, 40-point favorites?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
27. 27? 27, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
27-point favorites?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And rush the field and make it like, oh, my God,
look at what we just did. What an embarrassing performance
by Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It was a terrible performance by Michigan.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Right?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
And, Rob, the thing about that team, we know that
Bryce Underwood was one of the biggest recruits ever coming
into Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Had a lot of hype.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And it was a former All-Pro safety that went to
their camp this offseason. Rob, Eric Guero, he went to
their camp. And he left and he said– that quarterback
isn't as good as people are saying. And then he
comes out against Western Michigan and plays the way he played.
That doesn't bode well for them, and especially, I mean,
how much money they paid the kids. So they're going
to have to regroup.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Terrible look.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Western Michigan almost got the upset.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Should have probably got the upset. No, stop saying probably
should have. They got the upset. They got the upset.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I've seen the angles. I've seen the replay. And I
saw the clock go to zero, zero. And this other
idea that, oh, no, but that's not the clock. There's
another second on there. So what they say, tenths of
a second? Because it wasn't a second. It's unbelievable that
this is where we are. You know what it reminds
me of?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
What?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
It reminds me of instant replay when guys steal bases
in baseball.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So they hold the tag on the runner.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
They watch the replay, and he comes up a millisecond
in the slide.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
He beat the ball there. He beat the tag.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
The guy holds the tag on him, and at some point,
his foot comes a little bit off the bag during
the slide.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
They have to slow it down so slow to see.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
That is not what instant replay is for. It's for
missing obvious calls. They said college football back. That's not
what you want. That's not.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You feel like you got cheated.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You had to take a shower after that game and
go like, what did I just watch?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
A little cigarette or something as well.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Hey, I'm sure Michigan fans had a cigarette and baby oil,
you know, feeling good after they just, you know, didn't
have their season wrecked in week one against, right?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Western Michigan, come on.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah, no, Rob. I'm not going to say you don't
need instant replay. I'm not on that bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I'm down. I'm down on instant replay. You're down on it.
If you continue to do this, which is take away moments, seriously.
That's true. Okay, as a sports fan, dude, are you perfect?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
No.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Nobody's perfect. Why are we looking for this perfection moment?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
In sports. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And every time, because humans are involved, guess what happens?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
There are mistakes. You watch the NFL every week.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
There's a hole. There's a play. Every week. I agree
with that. So what are we doing? You're not... you're
not fixing it.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
If you told me it was foolproof and, and you
got every call that was wrong, right. And you didn't
blow any calls the other way. Then maybe I would
sign up.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay. I was okay.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You could point to maybe two or three calls. You've
watched a million games. Just as a couple of games
where you go, ah, they blew it or that. But
for the most part, for the most part, It's not
an issue. Even with the pitch, the ABS system in baseball,
umpires are nailing it or killing it. Do you know
that as far as their rate of getting the calls right?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
And the ones that they miss are just a little
bit outside or a little bit high.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's unbelievable how good they are.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
To me, it has reinforced how good Major League umpires are.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Really?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And there are bad ones. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
There's some bad ones.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But go look. Go look at the percentage. It's really
high on how many calls they get right. And my
point is, we don't need replay. If you're going to
pull victories away... and you're going to get it wrong
from human error anyway, I don't even– I'm down on replays.
(09:43):
That has soured me, and I've seen other– as I say,
every Sunday you watch NFL football as the season's about
to kick off, and I shake my head all the
time because they don't get the calls right.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, no, it's going to be hard. And you said–
you hit something right there with the human error part.
There is a human element to sports that there was.
I guess there's like it felt more natural in that way, Rob.
But if you're talking about wanting to get things right,
and I think that's the part now when you start
adding gambling and all these things to the.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Equation, like you have to get it right. I don't care. No, no,
I hear you, but you have to get it right.
But they don't get it right is what I'm saying.
You know how many people had— But who said they
didn't get it right?
Speaker 5 (10:26):
You're just saying you didn't see the extra clock or whatever,
but you can't.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Just say— No, I watched the replay with the clock,
and he didn't touch the ball when the clock— Okay,
and now you're going to tell me, no, there's a
double clock in the back that we keep that's different,
and the referees knew that that clock had— Less than
a second on it.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, we had an expert come on.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Was it Mike Pereira that came on and said they
shouldn't have used the other clock as well?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Did you see that yet? Yeah, he said they shouldn't have.
He said they shouldn't have. Absolutely. This is what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
In that situation, you got to understand the circumstance and
the idea that, like, here's my point. A guy makes
a big error, like he should just... make the play,
and the game should be over. Nobody goes, come on, man,
he would have made that play 99 out of 100.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
That guy's out. Just call him out and the game's over.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
No.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Because that's the human element that's a part of the game.
Just like fans have gotten calls go their way sometimes,
fans have gotten calls to go the opposite way, where
you're pissed. And you know sometimes as a fan, you
got a call, your team got a call.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And you're like... Dude, we've been getting jobbed all the time.
I'll take this one, right? Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
They owe us one from three years ago on that play.
All I'm saying is, I've soured on instant replay. That,
when you take the fan's joy away, away from watching something.
And now every time, you know how many people had
the money line on Western Michigan?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know what I mean? Like, they did.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
They're like, yeah, they'll get hammered or whatever, or the
plus 27, which they wouldn't want anyway. But you know
what I mean? They had a bet or something. And
you see something and go, what? They cheated for Michigan again?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's what people walked.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Away with, feeling like they cheated for Michigan.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
No, Rob, literally, I turned it off when they threw
the Hail Mary out of bounds. I was like, oh,
that game's over. There's no time left. I turned it off.
I see the group chat. The group chat coming in.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It wasn't even in the end zone.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
It wasn't even in the end zone. But what they said, Rob,
this is the explanation, though. So this is what they said.
So the guy was already out of bounds. So as
soon as he touched the ball, even at that one second,
you see that. That's when the ball was dead. You
see the ball touching the ground, one, zero, it's over.
But he was already out of bounds. And when he
touched it, that was the explanation. So when they give
(13:01):
the explanation, it's right.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
It's right.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
And so when you say the replay didn't work out,
it worked out. If he was out of bounds, that
was no judgment.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But I'm saying it didn't work out because you can't
have two clocks.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Seriously. You can't.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And today's technology, you can't sync up the clocks. It
doesn't even make sense. Why are people in the stadium
watching one clock?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
And then NBC's broadcast in the game, they put final
12 to.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
7, Western Michigan.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's what I'm trying to say to you.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So if NBC and the people doing the broadcast, nobody
on the... I've been listening. Nobody said, oh, wait a minute,
we need to check the other clock.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Because nobody knew there was another clock. Did you know
there was another clock yesterday? No. From the game?
Speaker 7 (13:54):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
This is what I'm saying. So it leaves.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
The sports fan with a bad taste in his mouth.
He just feels like this sucks.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
What? It's so bad. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
As bad as I just want to say, you know, Michigan,
they cheated. That's when they finally won their national championship
for the first time since Morby Dick was a guppy.
We know they cheated after getting beat like a drum forever.
by Ohio State. They finally win. They find out that
they're stealing signals and all that. And then they put
on a terrible performance, lose to Western Michigan. Oh, you're
(14:36):
just going to say it, huh? To me, they lost
to Western Michigan. You can say whatever you want to do.
And hopefully they won't win a game this year. I'm
wishful thinking. But you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Like that is such bad mojo. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Like you wish something bad happens to Michigan at some
point to make up for that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Because they put in a piss poor performance.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yes, they did.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
That didn't warrant winning a football game, being bailed out
by the officials.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
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Speaker 4 (15:09):
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(15:29):
I'm done I'm done with instant replay I just it
kills me and it's not a perfect science We've seen
other games where umpires, referees, and they go to the
booth and they go to New York and they go
to New Jersey and the command center, and still it
(15:50):
comes back wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yes, there is some truth to that, Rob. You want
to talk about getting your panties in a bunch this morning.
That is me over this whole thing. They really bunched up?
They might have to be cut off. That's how bad
it is.
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Speaker 6 (16:48):
A lot of conversations in the past week or so
with the travel plans with the Niners and the Rams
and who was taking the best route given the travel time,
jet lag. When do you get there? When do you
get acclimated? The Rams, they left on Tuesday. The Niners
left last week. And we thought, why not try to
(17:09):
find somebody who does this for a living? Dr. Meeta Singh,
board-certified physician and psychiatrist concentrated in the Applied Science of Sleep.
She's worked as a consultant for multiple NFL teams, baseball, NHL, NBA, Olympics,
college teams as well, and large organizations and executives seeking
to optimize their competitive performance. Doctor, thanks for joining us.
(17:33):
If you were in charge of travel for these two
football teams, what would you have suggested going from the
West Coast to Australia?
Speaker 8 (17:42):
Well, so think about the time difference at 17 hours ahead.
So science says that it takes about an hour a
day to acclimatize. You have to kind of manage that
jet lag. I would say at this point, nobody's going
to have 17 days to adjust, right? So the earlier
(18:02):
you get there, the better. I'm really interested because I
don't work with either of the teams. I'm interested to
understand why they both took such different routes because, I mean,
they're just going to– the Rams are going to get–
they're there only for 48 hours.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
So I don't see how they're going to get adjusted there.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
But the Niners leaving and getting there five or six
days earlier– is that a big advantage in your opinion?
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Well, it depends on how well they're doing it. Yes.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
So if they, if they had planned this out, they've like,
you know, used strategically used melatonin adjusted their use.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
You use light.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
There's, there's a, there's an entire protocol that you can
follow to try to get adjusted to the new time zone.
If they've done that right, then yes, they would be,
they would be, they have the advantage of being better adjusted.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
You work for the saints. I can see the footballs
behind you if you're watching the show, but you're all,
you're now working for the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
What is your role with the Broncos?
Speaker 8 (19:08):
So I'm a sleep consultant and I am, uh, my
role is to help them, you know, manage travel, manage their,
any sleep issues, any, anybody in the building.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Might have on an individual level.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
And, um, You know, the culture at the organization is
absolutely amazing. Like the owners have invested a lot. Sean Payton,
of course, you know, wants to follow the science. And yeah,
that's what we do.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
What's your take on melatonin?
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Well, melatonin is it's something that it's it's a it's
something that is endocrine. produced in our brain, right?
Speaker 8 (19:52):
But you can take it externally and it actually works
really well for jet lag because it's a signal to
your brain that you're ready to fall asleep. So for example,
When these teams are falling asleep at night, their body
clocks still think that they're in California time. So they're
(20:12):
trying to fall asleep at five or six in the morning.
Melatonin at that time would send them a signal that
you're ready.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
To fall asleep.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
We look at teams going from the West Coast to
the East Coast.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
As opposed to East Coast going to the West Coast.
Is there that much of a difference in performance of
you know, what direction you're going in.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
I mean, Dan, it's always easier to go to bed later, right?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
So when you go from the east to the west coast,
you're going to bed later. It's always easier. East travel,
eastward travel is always more difficult. And, you know, that
three-hour difference does make a difference.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Amazing. Amazing. Makes a significant difference.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
The problem with this trip is that it's a 16
hour difference. It's a flip of a day and a night.
It's never been studied before. We have no idea. I mean,
you know, there's no there's no real way that you
can actually do research for this.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
So but but you can going from East Coast to
West Coast and vice versa.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Yes, you can. It's much more manageable.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
It's also more manageable when you're going from here to, say,
London to play, right? So there's a time difference. But
if you get there a week ahead in time, you've
given yourself enough time to follow a protocol that'll help
manage it. This is difficult for both.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
I've been told, I don't know if it's true, so
that's why I'm asking you, the doctor here, If I
go from New York to Italy, don't take that nap
when I get to Italy. Plow through the first day.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
So when you get when you go from here to Italy,
you want to not take a nap because a nap
will take a bite out of your sleep drive. You
want that drive to help you fall asleep at night.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
So, yeah, that is that's a good policy.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
You want to go there and like hit the ground running.
You know, when it comes to light exposure, you've got
to be careful about when to expose your eyes to light,
your body clock to light. So maybe wear sunglasses till
about 10 or 11 a.m., but then get exposed to
bright light.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I have somebody on my staff, Todd Fritz, who has
sleep apnea. What kind of progress have we made in
sleep apnea?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Oh my goodness, it's amazing now, right? First of all,
we no longer do a single night of sleep study.
We do multiple nights because sleep apnea varies by night,
every night. And then the treatments that are available, if
somebody is overweight, you can give them medication for that
to kind of help them. But sleep apnea, the machines
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are really smaller. They're much more easier to use. um
there are different like their dental devices there are uh
there are surgical options that are available um are you
treating your sleep apnea john.
Speaker 9 (23:13):
I am using the c-pep for a while it was
uncomfortable i tried all the different masks someone came to
the house they did the sleep studies and the the
doctor said you have severe obstructive sleep apnea where you're
constantly stopping your breathing so i am being treated with
a c-pep machine and it's going fine i'm afraid of
the whole implant thing i don't want to do the
inspire thing i'm I have this arrow sleep machine or something.
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So I don't love it, but if it's, if it's
helpful and I'm getting better sleep and I feel better
and it's putting less pressure on my body and my heart,
then I've got to, you know, deal with wearing it.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Good man. Yeah, that's exactly, that's exactly the right thing
to do.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Doctor.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Thank you. Uh, if the Broncos win the Superbowl, do
you get a Superbowl ring?
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Um, I certainly hope so.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
I definitely I'm I'm honored to work with the with
the Broncos. You know, it's like working with Sean Payton
is an honor of a lifetime.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
And you got game balls there that he gave you
when you were with the Saints.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
OK, how do you get a game ball as the
sleep doctor?
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Well, hopefully you, you contribute.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Um, so this is when they went, uh, they were in,
they played in London and they, uh, the saints were
20 and the dolphins were zero.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
I hope I had something to do that did kind
of help them. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
That's what I'm.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Wondering what the, I'd be really interested in finding out
what the thought process was for these two teams and
how they decided, you know, to go at these different times.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
How many teams have sleep doctors?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Well, I'm not very sure how many do. It really is.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
It's a it's a matter of culture because, you know,
calling in a sleep doctor a week before or 10,
you know, 10 days before a major trip is not
the right way to do it.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Really, the culture of.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
Figuring out what's happening with somebody's sleep, helping them really
starts in the off season and happens mostly in the preseason.
And then you, you, it's a multi-year program. You're going
to help them through it so that, cause it takes
a little bit of discipline and it takes buy-in the,
you know, the players have to buy into that.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Doctor, thank you for sharing and good luck this upcoming season.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Hey, take care. Bye-bye.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Dr. Meeta Singh, a board-certified physician, psychiatrist. She has consulted
the Saints, now the Broncos, I think the Washington Nationals. NBA, Olympics,
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Speaker 6 (26:04):
Steve Young, three-time Super Bowl champ, former ESPN NFL analyst.
What was your big takeaway from that game last night?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Don't forget Fred Warren. He's probably in.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Bosa is not, but yeah, Fred definitely is in.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So last night, yeah, well, this morning, it was weird
to see the sun coming up. Wasn't it weird, the lighting?
It was a really weird feeling. And it had to
be weird for them playing it. And especially the Rams
had to be just like spinning. Whoever divides the idea
of rolling in 16 hours early for the game, clearly,
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I mean, the Rams just looked... I don't know, like
they'd done what they just did, right? Blew 16 hours
and woke up and played at 8.30 in the morning.
But it was good. I mean, look, the 49ers, if healthy, right,
that's the big caveat. But you just said it's probably
five Hall of Famers on the 49ers, all older. And
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if they all are productive and healthy, they're going to
be in the mix. And you could see that yesterday
for sure.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
I'm still trying to understand, you know, you athletes are
creatures of habit. And this is something so foreign to you,
no pun intended, where you're going 17 hours and then
a quick turnaround. But the Rams said they did research
on this, Steve.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, you know, as athletes, you say like the patterns
are so entrenched. And like, you know, you go 10
minutes longer in a halftime at the Super Bowl. We're like, ah,
what are we going to do? Let alone what this was.
And yeah, the research, you know, look, whoever is the
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travel agent health specialist figured that one out. You could
just look. You got somebody. I was talking to someone
yesterday that's from Australia. And like, I make that trip
all the time. Like, you do not want to lay
on a plane for 16 hours and land and play football. Like,
you've got to get acclimated. And you can say, wow,
now the 49ers are going to be acclimated. I have
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to come back and acclimate again. Like, play the game.
You go down there to play. Like, get ready to
play the game and then figure out what's next. And
the 49ers spent the time to prepare. to play that game.
They did everything they could to get ready for that game.
And then some other theory. That's one of those theories
that's like those woke theories, like some crazy health theory
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that's like, oh, now if you don't ever, let's not
even go to sleep. Let's land and go straight to
the game. Then they don't have to acclimate and we
just go right. Like that's almost what they did.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Trent Williams had an unbelievable night considering Miles Garrett was
basically a no-show. How valuable is that if you're Brock
Purdy and you know Trent is going to take care
of that guy and you don't have Aaron Donald to
worry about?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Well, we said that, you know, there's four guys on
the team that in today's game, quarterback, left tackle, pass rusher,
and a corner, right? That's the bedrock of the team.
And if you had to pick, you'd say, well, quarterback
for sure. Like if you can't go all the way,
you're on the quarterback. But the tackle is the next guy.
because it shuts down so much. Your whole offense opens up.
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Everything about the offense is created because you're not under siege,
and especially with the best players in the league. So
Trent Williams, could think about it. Christian McCaffrey and Trent
Williams showed up and you can say kind of out
of nowhere for the 49ers, two locks in the hall
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of fame, just kind of like chose the 49ers. And
it's just changed everything. The two of them have created
incredible opportunity for the 49ers and Trent Williams is fantastic.
But he's, we say he's a hall of famer. He's
a hall of famer, hall of famer. He's probably the best.
You can say he's the best tackle that ever played.
And then you could get into, he's the best football
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player that ever played. Well, I don't know. You know, yeah,
you can, I get in the middle of that mix.
That's how good he is.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
You would take him over Larry Allen, Anthony Munoz.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah. I mean, it's just that he's that dominant. I mean,
you saw him a few times when they line up
in motion, like, Kyle, I think it's fun to see
Kyle's head kind of thinking of ruminating. I love when
he's putting people in strange places and taking advantage of athleticism.
There's a little bit of me, and I thought this
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a lot, maybe you and I have talked about this,
but when you're 14 years old, you're going out for football,
and you're 6'5, 240, 270, you're not going to play quarterback.
But there are guys, Dan, who can rip the ball
that were forced to play linemen because they– the coach
(31:03):
is like, you can't play quarterback at that size. One
day I want– we've talked about this, but one day
I want a huge lineman to be able to give
a chance to play quarterback because I think Trent Williams
is one of those guys that probably could– he probably
could drop back and rip the ball 40, 50 yards.
But the tackle is the next guy because it's like–
it shuts down like so much– Your whole offense opens up.
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Everything about the offense is created because you're not under siege,
and especially with the best players in the league. So
Trent Williams, think about it. Christian McCaffrey and Trent Williams
showed up, and you can say kind of out of
nowhere for the 49ers. Two locks in the Hall of Fame.
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just kind of like chose the 49ers, and it's just
changed everything. The two of them have created incredible opportunity
for the 49ers, and Trent Williams is– what would you
say he's a Hall of Famer? He's a Hall of Famer,
Hall of Famer. He's probably the best– you could say
he's the best tackle that ever played. And then you
could get into, oh, he's the best football player that
ever played. Well, I don't know, you know. Yeah, you could–
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I'd get in the middle of that mix. That's how
good he is.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
You would take him over Larry Allen, Anthony Munoz?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, I mean, he's just that dominant. I mean, you
saw him a few times when they line up in motion. Like, Kyle,
I think it's fun to see Kyle's head kind of
thinking of ruminating. I love when he's putting people in
strange places and taking advantage of athleticism. There's a little
(32:40):
bit of me, and I thought this a lot, maybe
you and I have talked about this, but when you're
14 years old, you're going out for football, and you're 6'5,
240 and 270 you're not going to play quarterback but
there are guys Dan who can rip the ball that
are that were forced to play linemen because they the
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coach is like you can't play quarterback at that side
one day I want we talked about this but one
day I want a huge lineman to be able to
give a chance to play quarterback. Cause I think Trent
Williams is one of those guys that probably could, he
probably could drop back and rip the ball 40, 50 yards.
And I, you know, we don't even know it.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
Talking to Steve Young, by the way, he ran a
four eight at the combine.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
That's, that's, that's probably above average for the quarterbacks in
the combine. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:35):
Yeah i would see if you could throw it i
get like there's guys that could rip offensive linemen that
i played with could rip the ball they go because
linemen don't want to touch the ball they go out
before practice every practice.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
We're linemen doing warm up throwing the ball they want
to throw the ball touch the ball because i never
touch it and you watch some of them throw you
like bro you sure you didn't play some quarterbacks well
no i was too big I wouldn't love to play quarterback.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
He's Steve Young, the Hall of Famer, joining us, Dan
Patrick Show. Give me your biggest question for this season,
either team, player, coach. Is there an overriding one?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, I guess, you know, you always look for the domination.
You're always looking for the team that's going to get
into that– Like the Chiefs have had that run. The
Patriots had a huge run. Like you always want to
see who's that next team that's going to run like that.
and it could be the Seahawks that could get into
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that kind of a run now that they did it
last year. I think the question is, who's going to
become dominant and can make that kind of run? Who's
going to show up? Or maybe those days truly are over.
I can say that, you just got done with the Chiefs.
It's never going to be over, but you wonder about
the parity and all the stuff they've been clamoring for
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for all the years. Is it finally going to show
up and it's just going to trade trade paint all
over the league, and there's no one that's going to dominate. That,
to me, is kind of fun to think about.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
But everybody is kind of anointed the Rams. They're going
to be Super Bowl champs, and they might be. And
you even had people talking about maybe they could go undefeated.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
The funny thing about football, it's such an emotional game
because you have to ram into other, you know, it's like,
because you have to ram into each other, it changes
the dynamic where the emotions really matter, how you prepare
kind of emotionally. And I think that's also because you
play every seven days, not every other day, every day
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like baseball, the media and the chatter matter in a
way that gets into your psyche. So the Rams, who
were really good, And then signed Miles Garrett, and now
they're like, oh, they're going. No one's ever been better.
This is amazing. But the locker room really hasn't. It's
(35:58):
like they were good. But now everyone tells them you're great.
It's July. You're like, you are amazing. You're like, really?
Because I haven't even played a game yet. I haven't
warmed up, but I am great. and you're going to
be one of the all-time great teams. Oh, that– and
it does– you can't help it. Even the Ronnie Lots
and the guys that just grind, like you can't help
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but take in some of it, and then you get
punched in the mouth, and we'll see how it goes.
But that's the fun part about football is that– the
emotions can really change and the expectations and the build
every week. Now, what do you think is going to
be written all week in LA? I have this team's
a boss. No, no.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I think it'll be, Oh, this is a good loss
for them. We get rid of the undefeated season possibility. Oh, we,
you know, cut, you know, good. We're back down to
earth now.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Like, and then lose another one. And that's like, it
can happen pretty fast.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Uh, More likely to win a Super Bowl, Josh Allen
or Lamar Jackson this year?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Oh, man. I really thought five years ago, I said
many times that Patrick, Lamar, and Josh were just going
to trade paint, taking Super Bowls for the next 10 years.
And they really have, but then the other two haven't
gotten there, gotten close yet. Look, I think Josh Allen,
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because Lamar needs to come back and show me that
he's healthy again. And if he's healthy again, and this offense,
and remember I've always said a thousand times, a sophisticated
passer that Lamar Jackson could be, people can say, what
are you talking about? He's a great passer. I'm talking
about a sophisticated passing game around him and ask him
to do kind of that settled, like highest level, you know,
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in-pocket passing game, if he could master that, no one
could stop him. He'd be the first unstoppable football player
in history. And so I keep waiting to see the
full measure of that. We've seen a lot of it,
but to see all of it. So I always have
to say, boy, Lamar, man, if it all came back together,
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no one could stop him. But I got to see
him healthy. And so without that, I'd say Josh.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Dan Orlovsky of the Mothership said, if Matthew Stafford were
to win another Super Bowl, he could see him as
a top five quarterback of all time.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Well, those are the kind of things that get you
into a fight in the bar, right? So that's what's fun.
That's why you say it. I think he's a great player.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Wait, when's the last time you were in a fight?
You're not in a bar. Have you been in a
fight before?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
No. Okay. It's funny you ask that because the other
day I'm coaching the girls flag again, the high school
and it came up because it's like, they're tough football players.
All the girls are like, so how many fights you've
been in?
Speaker 6 (39:03):
You know?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
And I'm like, okay. I talked my way out of
a lot of fights. Do we really want to fight? Honestly,
we really don't have much difference. I got out of
a lot of fights. Someone went after a buddy of
mine when I was in seventh grade. and, and I,
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you know, it was really out of just pure emotion. I, I,
I punched a kid and got into trouble, but that's,
it wasn't even a fight. It was like, it's almost
a cheap shot. I just pissed out.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Wait, what do you, you're not, that's not you.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
I know. I look, Dan, I look, Life is about
learning and growing, right? So stakes are made. And then
the key is, do you learn from your mistakes? You know?
And so, you know, I've pretty much talked my way
out of a fight ever since.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I will say this, Dan. A lot of guys wanted
to fight me on the field. A lot of guys. Who?
And unfortunately for me, I had a lot of really
large guys that had my back. And so, you know.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Wait, who wanted to fight you on the field and why?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Oh. Any defense, I mean, how many, like back in
the day, I was the guy that was running around
and making people kind of like, there's like, we play
great defense and then you go do that. So the frustration,
especially for middle linebackers who are running the defense, it's
like they knew they played good defense. And then I'm
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running down the field for first down or touchdown and
they just inflamed them. And so, yeah, it would always be,
But I had a lot of good friends behind me
on that one, so no problem. Well, if any cheap
shot happened, anything. I mean, Harris Barton, Jesse Sapolo, Steve Wallace,
these are guys like they keep an eye out, right?
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And if something happens where they actually go in the huddle,
we go, okay. They don't even care what play I call.
They're not even listening. They just go, he's going down.
And they just take the guy out and just stand
over him and tell him. So it was awesome. It
was awesome to play quarterback for those guys.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
It drives me crazy when a quarterback throws an interception
and the analyst says, boy, he'd like to have that
one back. Was there ever an interception, Steve, that you
threw where you were like, no, I'm okay, that I
don't want to have that one back?
Speaker 3 (41:29):
So that's what's amazing about playing quarterback, because as you
let the ball go, not the tipped balls from linemen
you don't really see coming, but a lot of times
when you let, right when you're letting it go, you're going, oh,
and And then you have to watch it.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
In slow motion.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah. It's literally like a slow motion train wreck. You're like, oh,
especially the bad ones, right? And so if you want
it back, when I first started playing, the great Sid
Gilman was my coach. Remember that name? Yeah. Ah, Steve,
you're not on a rubber band. You know, like, it's like,
can't take it back. And the thing that Look, look,
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whether you, you know, there are great passes, ones that
I said, oh, that was beautiful, that maybe got tipped
at the line of scrimmage or the receiver didn't react
like exactly the way that he should have, that you
just say to yourself, bro, that was art. That was beauty.
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And I ended up having to chase that down and
clean it up. Like, that's when you're like, That's not right.
That ball was perfect. And now I'm chasing Deion Sanders
down the... I chased everyone down, Dan. I cleaned up
my work. You know this. Fritzie knows this, too. I
cleaned up. I never let anybody go pick six on me.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
You never had to pick six?
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Not that I... I cleaned up my... My messes, I
cleaned up. I chased down a lot of guys. And
I tell you, it was a badge of courage.
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Yeah, but I don't want my starting quarterback chasing down
a guy.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Well, you don't want him throwing stupid picks either, right?
But I cleaned up my mess. And when I see
a quarterback– start to clean up his mess and quit
you know i'm furious i feel like you're not doing
your job i chased down uh that's how i could
prove i was fast like and you don't have there's
no other way to prove you're fast unless you chase
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down someone we gotta find out how many career tackles
i have that's the real question.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
Ray, can you find out how many tackles he's looking
right now?
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Or how many hits I have of the Dodgers. Either one.
Find out which.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
I have zero tackles for you.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Shut up. I know there's a good game. They probably
don't keep the stat then. It's probably not a tackle
because it's interception maybe. Figure that out with Elias Sports Bureau.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
George Kittle had a tackle last night.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Who did?
Speaker 6 (44:15):
George Kittle.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah. So did he get credit for it? Yes. Well,
then they didn't keep the stat. That's just ridiculous. George Kittle.
If I have no tackles, then I never threw an interception.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
Steve, George Kittle had more tackles than Miles Garrett last night.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
We'll see how that means. The Rams, they're going. They're finished.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
Do we have pick sixes for Steve? Did you get that, Todd?
Speaker 2 (44:47):
According to Chad GPT, only four pick sixes.
Speaker 9 (44:50):
By Steve, which would only be 3.7% of his interceptions
returned for a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
That feels reasonable.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
You just told me you never threw a pick six.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Well, I mean, I don't remember any.
Speaker 6 (45:03):
How convenient of you, Steve. How convenient.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
If there's three, how many did I have in my
whole career? I think I probably had 47 in my
whole career for interceptions. What was it?
Speaker 6 (45:15):
How many interceptions did Steve Young have? I like that
you act like you don't know the stats. You know
all your stats.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Well, it might be 48.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
I have you at 107 interceptions, Steve.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I knew that, but I just didn't want it to
come out.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
I was trying to change the narrative. 107, and you'd
like to have all 107 back, wouldn't you?
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Well, I'll tell you, but I would just say 40
of them were beautiful.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Oh, so you did your job. They just did their
job better.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
They were perfect.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
But that's just life. That's, again, football is life. The
great metaphor. Yeah, you throw a perfect ball. Something got
screwed up. Go clean it up. And who did I blame? Myself.
Because you got them. In the end, if the ball
was in my hands and ended up in their hands,
if you don't own it, then we're in deep trouble. So.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
How about a round of applause for Steve Young with that?
Being the ultimate team player.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (46:27):
Nobody pats themselves on the back quite like Steve does.
Great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us as always.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Way to go.
Speaker 6 (46:39):
Thank you, buddy. That is Steve Young, one of the
best analysts in the business.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Hall of Famer. Yes, Martin.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Did he switch his golf stance? Is he back to like.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Oh, I.
Speaker 6 (46:53):
Dave, did you change your golf stance because of how
bad you played in Tahoe?
Speaker 3 (46:57):
What do you mean? What did we say? Middle of
the pack. And you're like.
It was the best I played. Look, I understand. Did
I beat Larry the Cable? No. Did I beat Larry
the Cable Guy? Yes.
Speaker 6 (47:10):
Yes, you did.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Did I beat Barkley? Yes. It was a huge success.
Speaker 6 (47:15):
But you can't brag about beating Larry the Cable Guy
and Barkley. You finished 55th.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
When you suck at golf, you do take what you
can get.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
But you said you were going to change, and then
you were going to be.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Oh, yeah, that's right. If I didn't go, I was
going to go lefty. You're right. So I did get...
My wife did mention that to me after the thing.
She goes, you promised. that if you, it was a
top half, right? It was, I had been the top
half and you got to go lefty. So, uh, we
got left. We do have lefty clubs. We're on the,
we're on the project.
Speaker 6 (47:46):
All right. Thank you for that update.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
I really don't want to update this anymore. This is
the last.
Speaker 6 (47:56):
Until next year in Tahoe. All right, boys, man, that's
Steve Young.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Anybody other cheap sheet, the cheap seed comments.
Speaker 7 (48:06):
About you?
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, like, you know, anyone else you want to remind
me about anything else I screwed up in life? You're
the one that... We talked about the... Oh, you poor thing.
Speaker 6 (48:18):
You poor thing. Man, you got it so tough. I
don't know how you did it. You grew up in
the mean streets of Greenwich. You go to BYU.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Bro, you know how tough it was to fight out
of that town?
Speaker 6 (48:30):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
How many guys have fought out of Greenwich, Connecticut before?
Not a lot.
Speaker 6 (48:36):
I don't think anybody had to fight out of credit.
Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
See you, boys.
Speaker 6 (48:43):
That's Steve Young, Hall of Famer.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in. Good morning. Is it Labor Day? Labor Day.
It is Labor Day.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah.
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And this is the Dan Patrick Show. Rob Parker with
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would do the odd couple.
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Speaker 5 (00:34):
It like rained all day yesterday. Keep it going a
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That's what I do. It seems like I do that
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A lot to get into, especially, oh, my God, college football, Michigan,
all that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
We're going to do that. But I guess you could
say a little breaking news.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Tua has been named the starting quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Where are you on that? Are you overly surprised?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Not surprised at all.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
I mean, he's going to be the best player that
they have in this situation to get it done. Penix
hasn't had a lot of time this camp. He's been injured.
And for me, this whole thing with Tua and the Falcons, man,
it was a couple years ago when he got hurt
and he kept getting the concussion stuff, and I was
literally scared for him. I wanted him to retire, Rob.
The fact that he came back and had a terrible
(02:12):
year last year with Miami and It just kind of,
you know, it didn't seem right at all for him
last year. Like, it seems like he was trying to
overcompensate for some of the talk that people have been
talking about throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But it's crazy. This is a guy who put up
a 70 piece.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know what I'm like? And that's what I'm saying.
So for me in this situation. And some of his
numbers two years ago, he had some of the best
numbers in the NFL. He did, Rob. As a quarterback.
That's why with this team, they have everything else. And
that's the crazy part.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Like, you can't pick anybody in the South to win it, really.
But I think Atlanta has the most talent. And if
he can just go out there and play like Tua,
like we know, then I think that team can be good, man.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So it sucks. It sucks. It's a good call. But
it's one of those things where, come on, man, they
got to get together.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And as far as panics, I think at some point
the Falcons are going to have to cut their panics out.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I mean appendix out.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Oh, no. Okay. Here you go.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You started early. You're going to go that way early.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What you got? They need to cut it? They need
to cut it out? Absolutely. At some point.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Penix.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I've seen flashes, but, I mean, Penix, if he's that guy,
should have beat out Tua.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Like, he's the guy who was drafted there.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
He's the guy.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
All the signs are that they're not happy with him, right?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
If you're Penix, I don't know how you feel anything
other than, you know, they really don't believe in me.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
No, they can't.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
Right?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
He just hasn't had enough time to be healthy either.
And that's been his track record already. I mean, Rob,
he had multiple injuries in college where we saw flashes,
but we never seen enough from him.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
No doubt. But the big story. Oh, my God.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Wake the kids. Call the neighbors. The Michigan Western Michigan.
Because that's what it was. It was as bad as
it gets. It was so bad, so crooked, I had
to make sure, I thought at least, that Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Was still coaching. Because, of course, it was cheating.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Involved, and Michigan was involved. So I just figured, Jim Harbaugh,
is he still coach? I thought he went to the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Don't be giving no residual effects of this stuff to
Harbaugh right now.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Get him on.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Cheating is cheating, and Michigan always seems to be on this.
I'm going to say this character. It's moments like this
where I think we should abolish instant replay. Because instant replay,
to me, sure, you want to get calls right, right?
(04:35):
But when a call is, when you take away something from, somebody,
I think it hurts even more. And that's what I
felt like. I don't want to hear about there's another clock.
Like I've watched football my whole life. What other clock
is there, right? Shouldn't that be there's a game clock,
there's a clock in the stadium, that's not the game clock?
(04:59):
Like NBC flashed a cup, you know, final. 12-7, Western Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I turned it off.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Of course you did. And Michigan fans, disgraceful. You're going
to run out on the field after you play Western.
What were they, 40-point favorites?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
27. 27? 27, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
27-point favorites?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And rush the field and make it like, oh, my God,
look at what we just did. What an embarrassing performance
by Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It was a terrible performance by Michigan.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Right?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
And, Rob, the thing about that team, we know that
Bryce Underwood was one of the biggest recruits ever coming
into Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Had a lot of hype.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And it was a former All-Pro safety that went to
their camp this offseason. Rob, Eric Guero, he went to
their camp. And he left and he said– that quarterback
isn't as good as people are saying. And then he
comes out against Western Michigan and plays the way he played.
That doesn't bode well for them, and especially, I mean,
how much money they paid the kids. So they're going
to have to regroup.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Terrible look.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Western Michigan almost got the upset.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Should have probably got the upset. No, stop saying probably
should have. They got the upset. They got the upset.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I've seen the angles. I've seen the replay. And I
saw the clock go to zero, zero. And this other
idea that, oh, no, but that's not the clock. There's
another second on there. So what they say, tenths of
a second? Because it wasn't a second. It's unbelievable that
this is where we are. You know what it reminds
me of?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
What?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
It reminds me of instant replay when guys steal bases
in baseball.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So they hold the tag on the runner.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
They watch the replay, and he comes up a millisecond
in the slide.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
He beat the ball there. He beat the tag.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
The guy holds the tag on him, and at some point,
his foot comes a little bit off the bag during
the slide.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
They have to slow it down so slow to see.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
That is not what instant replay is for. It's for
missing obvious calls. They said college football back. That's not
what you want. That's not.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You feel like you got cheated.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You had to take a shower after that game and
go like, what did I just watch?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
A little cigarette or something as well.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Hey, I'm sure Michigan fans had a cigarette and baby oil,
you know, feeling good after they just, you know, didn't
have their season wrecked in week one against, right?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Western Michigan, come on.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah, no, Rob. I'm not going to say you don't
need instant replay. I'm not on that bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I'm down. I'm down on instant replay. You're down on it.
If you continue to do this, which is take away moments, seriously.
That's true. Okay, as a sports fan, dude, are you perfect?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
No.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Nobody's perfect. Why are we looking for this perfection moment?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
In sports. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And every time, because humans are involved, guess what happens?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
There are mistakes. You watch the NFL every week.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
There's a hole. There's a play. Every week. I agree
with that. So what are we doing? You're not... you're
not fixing it.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
If you told me it was foolproof and, and you
got every call that was wrong, right. And you didn't
blow any calls the other way. Then maybe I would
sign up.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay. I was okay.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You could point to maybe two or three calls. You've
watched a million games. Just as a couple of games
where you go, ah, they blew it or that. But
for the most part, for the most part, It's not
an issue. Even with the pitch, the ABS system in baseball,
umpires are nailing it or killing it. Do you know
that as far as their rate of getting the calls right?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
And the ones that they miss are just a little
bit outside or a little bit high.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's unbelievable how good they are.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
To me, it has reinforced how good Major League umpires are.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Really?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And there are bad ones. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
There's some bad ones.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But go look. Go look at the percentage. It's really
high on how many calls they get right. And my
point is, we don't need replay. If you're going to
pull victories away... and you're going to get it wrong
from human error anyway, I don't even– I'm down on replays.
(09:43):
That has soured me, and I've seen other– as I say,
every Sunday you watch NFL football as the season's about
to kick off, and I shake my head all the
time because they don't get the calls right.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, no, it's going to be hard. And you said–
you hit something right there with the human error part.
There is a human element to sports that there was.
I guess there's like it felt more natural in that way, Rob.
But if you're talking about wanting to get things right,
and I think that's the part now when you start
adding gambling and all these things to the.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Equation, like you have to get it right. I don't care. No, no,
I hear you, but you have to get it right.
But they don't get it right is what I'm saying.
You know how many people had— But who said they
didn't get it right?
Speaker 5 (10:26):
You're just saying you didn't see the extra clock or whatever,
but you can't.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Just say— No, I watched the replay with the clock,
and he didn't touch the ball when the clock— Okay,
and now you're going to tell me, no, there's a
double clock in the back that we keep that's different,
and the referees knew that that clock had— Less than
a second on it.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, we had an expert come on.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Was it Mike Pereira that came on and said they
shouldn't have used the other clock as well?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Did you see that yet? Yeah, he said they shouldn't have.
He said they shouldn't have. Absolutely. This is what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
In that situation, you got to understand the circumstance and
the idea that, like, here's my point. A guy makes
a big error, like he should just... make the play,
and the game should be over. Nobody goes, come on, man,
he would have made that play 99 out of 100.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
That guy's out. Just call him out and the game's over.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
No.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Because that's the human element that's a part of the game.
Just like fans have gotten calls go their way sometimes,
fans have gotten calls to go the opposite way, where
you're pissed. And you know sometimes as a fan, you
got a call, your team got a call.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And you're like... Dude, we've been getting jobbed all the time.
I'll take this one, right? Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
They owe us one from three years ago on that play.
All I'm saying is, I've soured on instant replay. That,
when you take the fan's joy away, away from watching something.
And now every time, you know how many people had
the money line on Western Michigan?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know what I mean? Like, they did.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
They're like, yeah, they'll get hammered or whatever, or the
plus 27, which they wouldn't want anyway. But you know
what I mean? They had a bet or something. And
you see something and go, what? They cheated for Michigan again?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's what people walked.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Away with, feeling like they cheated for Michigan.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
No, Rob, literally, I turned it off when they threw
the Hail Mary out of bounds. I was like, oh,
that game's over. There's no time left. I turned it off.
I see the group chat. The group chat coming in.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It wasn't even in the end zone.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
It wasn't even in the end zone. But what they said, Rob,
this is the explanation, though. So this is what they said.
So the guy was already out of bounds. So as
soon as he touched the ball, even at that one second,
you see that. That's when the ball was dead. You
see the ball touching the ground, one, zero, it's over.
But he was already out of bounds. And when he
touched it, that was the explanation. So when they give
(13:01):
the explanation, it's right.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
It's right.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
And so when you say the replay didn't work out,
it worked out. If he was out of bounds, that
was no judgment.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But I'm saying it didn't work out because you can't
have two clocks.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Seriously. You can't.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And today's technology, you can't sync up the clocks. It
doesn't even make sense. Why are people in the stadium
watching one clock?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
And then NBC's broadcast in the game, they put final
12 to.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
7, Western Michigan.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's what I'm trying to say to you.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So if NBC and the people doing the broadcast, nobody
on the... I've been listening. Nobody said, oh, wait a minute,
we need to check the other clock.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Because nobody knew there was another clock. Did you know
there was another clock yesterday? No. From the game?
Speaker 7 (13:54):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
This is what I'm saying. So it leaves.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
The sports fan with a bad taste in his mouth.
He just feels like this sucks.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
What? It's so bad. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
As bad as I just want to say, you know, Michigan,
they cheated. That's when they finally won their national championship
for the first time since Morby Dick was a guppy.
We know they cheated after getting beat like a drum forever.
by Ohio State. They finally win. They find out that
they're stealing signals and all that. And then they put
on a terrible performance, lose to Western Michigan. Oh, you're
(14:36):
just going to say it, huh? To me, they lost
to Western Michigan. You can say whatever you want to do.
And hopefully they won't win a game this year. I'm
wishful thinking. But you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Like that is such bad mojo. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Like you wish something bad happens to Michigan at some
point to make up for that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Because they put in a piss poor performance.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yes, they did.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
That didn't warrant winning a football game, being bailed out
by the officials.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
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(15:29):
I'm done I'm done with instant replay I just it
kills me and it's not a perfect science We've seen
other games where umpires, referees, and they go to the
booth and they go to New York and they go
to New Jersey and the command center, and still it
(15:50):
comes back wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yes, there is some truth to that, Rob. You want
to talk about getting your panties in a bunch this morning.
That is me over this whole thing. They really bunched up?
They might have to be cut off. That's how bad
it is.
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Speaker 6 (16:48):
A lot of conversations in the past week or so
with the travel plans with the Niners and the Rams
and who was taking the best route given the travel time,
jet lag. When do you get there? When do you
get acclimated? The Rams, they left on Tuesday. The Niners
left last week. And we thought, why not try to
(17:09):
find somebody who does this for a living? Dr. Meeta Singh,
board-certified physician and psychiatrist concentrated in the Applied Science of Sleep.
She's worked as a consultant for multiple NFL teams, baseball, NHL, NBA, Olympics,
college teams as well, and large organizations and executives seeking
to optimize their competitive performance. Doctor, thanks for joining us.
(17:33):
If you were in charge of travel for these two
football teams, what would you have suggested going from the
West Coast to Australia?
Speaker 8 (17:42):
Well, so think about the time difference at 17 hours ahead.
So science says that it takes about an hour a
day to acclimatize. You have to kind of manage that
jet lag. I would say at this point, nobody's going
to have 17 days to adjust, right? So the earlier
(18:02):
you get there, the better. I'm really interested because I
don't work with either of the teams. I'm interested to
understand why they both took such different routes because, I mean,
they're just going to– the Rams are going to get–
they're there only for 48 hours.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
So I don't see how they're going to get adjusted there.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
But the Niners leaving and getting there five or six
days earlier– is that a big advantage in your opinion?
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Well, it depends on how well they're doing it. Yes.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
So if they, if they had planned this out, they've like,
you know, used strategically used melatonin adjusted their use.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
You use light.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
There's, there's a, there's an entire protocol that you can
follow to try to get adjusted to the new time zone.
If they've done that right, then yes, they would be,
they would be, they have the advantage of being better adjusted.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
You work for the saints. I can see the footballs
behind you if you're watching the show, but you're all,
you're now working for the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
What is your role with the Broncos?
Speaker 8 (19:08):
So I'm a sleep consultant and I am, uh, my
role is to help them, you know, manage travel, manage their,
any sleep issues, any, anybody in the building.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Might have on an individual level.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
And, um, You know, the culture at the organization is
absolutely amazing. Like the owners have invested a lot. Sean Payton,
of course, you know, wants to follow the science. And yeah,
that's what we do.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
What's your take on melatonin?
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Well, melatonin is it's something that it's it's a it's
something that is endocrine. produced in our brain, right?
Speaker 8 (19:52):
But you can take it externally and it actually works
really well for jet lag because it's a signal to
your brain that you're ready to fall asleep. So for example,
When these teams are falling asleep at night, their body
clocks still think that they're in California time. So they're
(20:12):
trying to fall asleep at five or six in the morning.
Melatonin at that time would send them a signal that
you're ready.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
To fall asleep.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
We look at teams going from the West Coast to
the East Coast.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
As opposed to East Coast going to the West Coast.
Is there that much of a difference in performance of
you know, what direction you're going in.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
I mean, Dan, it's always easier to go to bed later, right?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
So when you go from the east to the west coast,
you're going to bed later. It's always easier. East travel,
eastward travel is always more difficult. And, you know, that
three-hour difference does make a difference.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Amazing. Amazing. Makes a significant difference.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
The problem with this trip is that it's a 16
hour difference. It's a flip of a day and a night.
It's never been studied before. We have no idea. I mean,
you know, there's no there's no real way that you
can actually do research for this.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
So but but you can going from East Coast to
West Coast and vice versa.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Yes, you can. It's much more manageable.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
It's also more manageable when you're going from here to, say,
London to play, right? So there's a time difference. But
if you get there a week ahead in time, you've
given yourself enough time to follow a protocol that'll help
manage it. This is difficult for both.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
I've been told, I don't know if it's true, so
that's why I'm asking you, the doctor here, If I
go from New York to Italy, don't take that nap
when I get to Italy. Plow through the first day.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
So when you get when you go from here to Italy,
you want to not take a nap because a nap
will take a bite out of your sleep drive. You
want that drive to help you fall asleep at night.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
So, yeah, that is that's a good policy.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
You want to go there and like hit the ground running.
You know, when it comes to light exposure, you've got
to be careful about when to expose your eyes to light,
your body clock to light. So maybe wear sunglasses till
about 10 or 11 a.m., but then get exposed to
bright light.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I have somebody on my staff, Todd Fritz, who has
sleep apnea. What kind of progress have we made in
sleep apnea?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Oh my goodness, it's amazing now, right? First of all,
we no longer do a single night of sleep study.
We do multiple nights because sleep apnea varies by night,
every night. And then the treatments that are available, if
somebody is overweight, you can give them medication for that
to kind of help them. But sleep apnea, the machines
(23:00):
are really smaller. They're much more easier to use. um
there are different like their dental devices there are uh
there are surgical options that are available um are you
treating your sleep apnea john.
Speaker 9 (23:13):
I am using the c-pep for a while it was
uncomfortable i tried all the different masks someone came to
the house they did the sleep studies and the the
doctor said you have severe obstructive sleep apnea where you're
constantly stopping your breathing so i am being treated with
a c-pep machine and it's going fine i'm afraid of
the whole implant thing i don't want to do the
inspire thing i'm I have this arrow sleep machine or something.
(23:35):
So I don't love it, but if it's, if it's
helpful and I'm getting better sleep and I feel better
and it's putting less pressure on my body and my heart,
then I've got to, you know, deal with wearing it.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Good man. Yeah, that's exactly, that's exactly the right thing
to do.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Doctor.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Thank you. Uh, if the Broncos win the Superbowl, do
you get a Superbowl ring?
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Um, I certainly hope so.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
I definitely I'm I'm honored to work with the with
the Broncos. You know, it's like working with Sean Payton
is an honor of a lifetime.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
And you got game balls there that he gave you
when you were with the Saints.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
OK, how do you get a game ball as the
sleep doctor?
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Well, hopefully you, you contribute.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Um, so this is when they went, uh, they were in,
they played in London and they, uh, the saints were
20 and the dolphins were zero.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
I hope I had something to do that did kind
of help them. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
That's what I'm.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Wondering what the, I'd be really interested in finding out
what the thought process was for these two teams and
how they decided, you know, to go at these different times.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
How many teams have sleep doctors?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Well, I'm not very sure how many do. It really is.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
It's a it's a matter of culture because, you know,
calling in a sleep doctor a week before or 10,
you know, 10 days before a major trip is not
the right way to do it.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Really, the culture of.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
Figuring out what's happening with somebody's sleep, helping them really
starts in the off season and happens mostly in the preseason.
And then you, you, it's a multi-year program. You're going
to help them through it so that, cause it takes
a little bit of discipline and it takes buy-in the,
you know, the players have to buy into that.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Doctor, thank you for sharing and good luck this upcoming season.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Hey, take care. Bye-bye.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Dr. Meeta Singh, a board-certified physician, psychiatrist. She has consulted
the Saints, now the Broncos, I think the Washington Nationals. NBA, Olympics,
college teams as well.
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Speaker 6 (26:04):
Steve Young, three-time Super Bowl champ, former ESPN NFL analyst.
What was your big takeaway from that game last night?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Don't forget Fred Warren. He's probably in.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Bosa is not, but yeah, Fred definitely is in.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So last night, yeah, well, this morning, it was weird
to see the sun coming up. Wasn't it weird, the lighting?
It was a really weird feeling. And it had to
be weird for them playing it. And especially the Rams
had to be just like spinning. Whoever divides the idea
of rolling in 16 hours early for the game, clearly,
(26:41):
I mean, the Rams just looked... I don't know, like
they'd done what they just did, right? Blew 16 hours
and woke up and played at 8.30 in the morning.
But it was good. I mean, look, the 49ers, if healthy, right,
that's the big caveat. But you just said it's probably
five Hall of Famers on the 49ers, all older. And
(27:02):
if they all are productive and healthy, they're going to
be in the mix. And you could see that yesterday
for sure.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
I'm still trying to understand, you know, you athletes are
creatures of habit. And this is something so foreign to you,
no pun intended, where you're going 17 hours and then
a quick turnaround. But the Rams said they did research
on this, Steve.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, you know, as athletes, you say like the patterns
are so entrenched. And like, you know, you go 10
minutes longer in a halftime at the Super Bowl. We're like, ah,
what are we going to do? Let alone what this was.
And yeah, the research, you know, look, whoever is the
(27:48):
travel agent health specialist figured that one out. You could
just look. You got somebody. I was talking to someone
yesterday that's from Australia. And like, I make that trip
all the time. Like, you do not want to lay
on a plane for 16 hours and land and play football. Like,
you've got to get acclimated. And you can say, wow,
now the 49ers are going to be acclimated. I have
(28:08):
to come back and acclimate again. Like, play the game.
You go down there to play. Like, get ready to
play the game and then figure out what's next. And
the 49ers spent the time to prepare. to play that game.
They did everything they could to get ready for that game.
And then some other theory. That's one of those theories
that's like those woke theories, like some crazy health theory
(28:29):
that's like, oh, now if you don't ever, let's not
even go to sleep. Let's land and go straight to
the game. Then they don't have to acclimate and we
just go right. Like that's almost what they did.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Trent Williams had an unbelievable night considering Miles Garrett was
basically a no-show. How valuable is that if you're Brock
Purdy and you know Trent is going to take care
of that guy and you don't have Aaron Donald to
worry about?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Well, we said that, you know, there's four guys on
the team that in today's game, quarterback, left tackle, pass rusher,
and a corner, right? That's the bedrock of the team.
And if you had to pick, you'd say, well, quarterback
for sure. Like if you can't go all the way,
you're on the quarterback. But the tackle is the next guy.
because it shuts down so much. Your whole offense opens up.
(29:27):
Everything about the offense is created because you're not under siege,
and especially with the best players in the league. So
Trent Williams, could think about it. Christian McCaffrey and Trent
Williams showed up and you can say kind of out
of nowhere for the 49ers, two locks in the hall
(29:48):
of fame, just kind of like chose the 49ers. And
it's just changed everything. The two of them have created
incredible opportunity for the 49ers and Trent Williams is fantastic.
But he's, we say he's a hall of famer. He's
a hall of famer, hall of famer. He's probably the best.
You can say he's the best tackle that ever played.
And then you could get into, he's the best football
(30:08):
player that ever played. Well, I don't know. You know, yeah,
you can, I get in the middle of that mix.
That's how good he is.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
You would take him over Larry Allen, Anthony Munoz.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah. I mean, it's just that he's that dominant. I mean,
you saw him a few times when they line up
in motion, like, Kyle, I think it's fun to see
Kyle's head kind of thinking of ruminating. I love when
he's putting people in strange places and taking advantage of athleticism.
There's a little bit of me, and I thought this
(30:40):
a lot, maybe you and I have talked about this,
but when you're 14 years old, you're going out for football,
and you're 6'5, 240, 270, you're not going to play quarterback.
But there are guys, Dan, who can rip the ball
that were forced to play linemen because they– the coach
(31:03):
is like, you can't play quarterback at that size. One
day I want– we've talked about this, but one day
I want a huge lineman to be able to give
a chance to play quarterback because I think Trent Williams
is one of those guys that probably could– he probably
could drop back and rip the ball 40, 50 yards.
But the tackle is the next guy because it's like–
it shuts down like so much– Your whole offense opens up.
(31:28):
Everything about the offense is created because you're not under siege,
and especially with the best players in the league. So
Trent Williams, think about it. Christian McCaffrey and Trent Williams
showed up, and you can say kind of out of
nowhere for the 49ers. Two locks in the Hall of Fame.
(31:50):
just kind of like chose the 49ers, and it's just
changed everything. The two of them have created incredible opportunity
for the 49ers, and Trent Williams is– what would you
say he's a Hall of Famer? He's a Hall of Famer,
Hall of Famer. He's probably the best– you could say
he's the best tackle that ever played. And then you
could get into, oh, he's the best football player that
ever played. Well, I don't know, you know. Yeah, you could–
(32:14):
I'd get in the middle of that mix. That's how
good he is.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
You would take him over Larry Allen, Anthony Munoz?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, I mean, he's just that dominant. I mean, you
saw him a few times when they line up in motion. Like, Kyle,
I think it's fun to see Kyle's head kind of
thinking of ruminating. I love when he's putting people in
strange places and taking advantage of athleticism. There's a little
(32:40):
bit of me, and I thought this a lot, maybe
you and I have talked about this, but when you're
14 years old, you're going out for football, and you're 6'5,
240 and 270 you're not going to play quarterback but
there are guys Dan who can rip the ball that
are that were forced to play linemen because they the
(33:04):
coach is like you can't play quarterback at that side
one day I want we talked about this but one
day I want a huge lineman to be able to
give a chance to play quarterback. Cause I think Trent
Williams is one of those guys that probably could, he
probably could drop back and rip the ball 40, 50 yards.
And I, you know, we don't even know it.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
Talking to Steve Young, by the way, he ran a
four eight at the combine.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
That's, that's, that's probably above average for the quarterbacks in
the combine. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:35):
Yeah i would see if you could throw it i
get like there's guys that could rip offensive linemen that
i played with could rip the ball they go because
linemen don't want to touch the ball they go out
before practice every practice.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
We're linemen doing warm up throwing the ball they want
to throw the ball touch the ball because i never
touch it and you watch some of them throw you
like bro you sure you didn't play some quarterbacks well
no i was too big I wouldn't love to play quarterback.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
He's Steve Young, the Hall of Famer, joining us, Dan
Patrick Show. Give me your biggest question for this season,
either team, player, coach. Is there an overriding one?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, I guess, you know, you always look for the domination.
You're always looking for the team that's going to get
into that– Like the Chiefs have had that run. The
Patriots had a huge run. Like you always want to
see who's that next team that's going to run like that.
and it could be the Seahawks that could get into
(34:34):
that kind of a run now that they did it
last year. I think the question is, who's going to
become dominant and can make that kind of run? Who's
going to show up? Or maybe those days truly are over.
I can say that, you just got done with the Chiefs.
It's never going to be over, but you wonder about
the parity and all the stuff they've been clamoring for
(34:55):
for all the years. Is it finally going to show
up and it's just going to trade trade paint all
over the league, and there's no one that's going to dominate. That,
to me, is kind of fun to think about.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
But everybody is kind of anointed the Rams. They're going
to be Super Bowl champs, and they might be. And
you even had people talking about maybe they could go undefeated.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
The funny thing about football, it's such an emotional game
because you have to ram into other, you know, it's like,
because you have to ram into each other, it changes
the dynamic where the emotions really matter, how you prepare
kind of emotionally. And I think that's also because you
play every seven days, not every other day, every day
(35:38):
like baseball, the media and the chatter matter in a
way that gets into your psyche. So the Rams, who
were really good, And then signed Miles Garrett, and now
they're like, oh, they're going. No one's ever been better.
This is amazing. But the locker room really hasn't. It's
(35:58):
like they were good. But now everyone tells them you're great.
It's July. You're like, you are amazing. You're like, really?
Because I haven't even played a game yet. I haven't
warmed up, but I am great. and you're going to
be one of the all-time great teams. Oh, that– and
it does– you can't help it. Even the Ronnie Lots
and the guys that just grind, like you can't help
(36:21):
but take in some of it, and then you get
punched in the mouth, and we'll see how it goes.
But that's the fun part about football is that– the
emotions can really change and the expectations and the build
every week. Now, what do you think is going to
be written all week in LA? I have this team's
a boss. No, no.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I think it'll be, Oh, this is a good loss
for them. We get rid of the undefeated season possibility. Oh, we,
you know, cut, you know, good. We're back down to
earth now.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Like, and then lose another one. And that's like, it
can happen pretty fast.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Uh, More likely to win a Super Bowl, Josh Allen
or Lamar Jackson this year?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Oh, man. I really thought five years ago, I said
many times that Patrick, Lamar, and Josh were just going
to trade paint, taking Super Bowls for the next 10 years.
And they really have, but then the other two haven't
gotten there, gotten close yet. Look, I think Josh Allen,
(37:27):
because Lamar needs to come back and show me that
he's healthy again. And if he's healthy again, and this offense,
and remember I've always said a thousand times, a sophisticated
passer that Lamar Jackson could be, people can say, what
are you talking about? He's a great passer. I'm talking
about a sophisticated passing game around him and ask him
to do kind of that settled, like highest level, you know,
(37:54):
in-pocket passing game, if he could master that, no one
could stop him. He'd be the first unstoppable football player
in history. And so I keep waiting to see the
full measure of that. We've seen a lot of it,
but to see all of it. So I always have
to say, boy, Lamar, man, if it all came back together,
(38:14):
no one could stop him. But I got to see
him healthy. And so without that, I'd say Josh.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Dan Orlovsky of the Mothership said, if Matthew Stafford were
to win another Super Bowl, he could see him as
a top five quarterback of all time.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Well, those are the kind of things that get you
into a fight in the bar, right? So that's what's fun.
That's why you say it. I think he's a great player.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Wait, when's the last time you were in a fight?
You're not in a bar. Have you been in a
fight before?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
No. Okay. It's funny you ask that because the other
day I'm coaching the girls flag again, the high school
and it came up because it's like, they're tough football players.
All the girls are like, so how many fights you've
been in?
Speaker 6 (39:03):
You know?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
And I'm like, okay. I talked my way out of
a lot of fights. Do we really want to fight? Honestly,
we really don't have much difference. I got out of
a lot of fights. Someone went after a buddy of
mine when I was in seventh grade. and, and I,
(39:24):
you know, it was really out of just pure emotion. I, I,
I punched a kid and got into trouble, but that's,
it wasn't even a fight. It was like, it's almost
a cheap shot. I just pissed out.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Wait, what do you, you're not, that's not you.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
I know. I look, Dan, I look, Life is about
learning and growing, right? So stakes are made. And then
the key is, do you learn from your mistakes? You know?
And so, you know, I've pretty much talked my way
out of a fight ever since.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I will say this, Dan. A lot of guys wanted
to fight me on the field. A lot of guys. Who?
And unfortunately for me, I had a lot of really
large guys that had my back. And so, you know.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Wait, who wanted to fight you on the field and why?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Oh. Any defense, I mean, how many, like back in
the day, I was the guy that was running around
and making people kind of like, there's like, we play
great defense and then you go do that. So the frustration,
especially for middle linebackers who are running the defense, it's
like they knew they played good defense. And then I'm
(40:33):
running down the field for first down or touchdown and
they just inflamed them. And so, yeah, it would always be,
But I had a lot of good friends behind me
on that one, so no problem. Well, if any cheap
shot happened, anything. I mean, Harris Barton, Jesse Sapolo, Steve Wallace,
these are guys like they keep an eye out, right?
(40:54):
And if something happens where they actually go in the huddle,
we go, okay. They don't even care what play I call.
They're not even listening. They just go, he's going down.
And they just take the guy out and just stand
over him and tell him. So it was awesome. It
was awesome to play quarterback for those guys.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
It drives me crazy when a quarterback throws an interception
and the analyst says, boy, he'd like to have that
one back. Was there ever an interception, Steve, that you
threw where you were like, no, I'm okay, that I
don't want to have that one back?
Speaker 3 (41:29):
So that's what's amazing about playing quarterback, because as you
let the ball go, not the tipped balls from linemen
you don't really see coming, but a lot of times
when you let, right when you're letting it go, you're going, oh,
and And then you have to watch it.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
In slow motion.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah. It's literally like a slow motion train wreck. You're like, oh,
especially the bad ones, right? And so if you want
it back, when I first started playing, the great Sid
Gilman was my coach. Remember that name? Yeah. Ah, Steve,
you're not on a rubber band. You know, like, it's like,
can't take it back. And the thing that Look, look,
(42:13):
whether you, you know, there are great passes, ones that
I said, oh, that was beautiful, that maybe got tipped
at the line of scrimmage or the receiver didn't react
like exactly the way that he should have, that you
just say to yourself, bro, that was art. That was beauty.
(42:36):
And I ended up having to chase that down and
clean it up. Like, that's when you're like, That's not right.
That ball was perfect. And now I'm chasing Deion Sanders
down the... I chased everyone down, Dan. I cleaned up
my work. You know this. Fritzie knows this, too. I
cleaned up. I never let anybody go pick six on me.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
You never had to pick six?
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Not that I... I cleaned up my... My messes, I
cleaned up. I chased down a lot of guys. And
I tell you, it was a badge of courage.
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Yeah, but I don't want my starting quarterback chasing down
a guy.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Well, you don't want him throwing stupid picks either, right?
But I cleaned up my mess. And when I see
a quarterback– start to clean up his mess and quit
you know i'm furious i feel like you're not doing
your job i chased down uh that's how i could
prove i was fast like and you don't have there's
no other way to prove you're fast unless you chase
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down someone we gotta find out how many career tackles
i have that's the real question.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
Ray, can you find out how many tackles he's looking
right now?
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Or how many hits I have of the Dodgers. Either one.
Find out which.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
I have zero tackles for you.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Shut up. I know there's a good game. They probably
don't keep the stat then. It's probably not a tackle
because it's interception maybe. Figure that out with Elias Sports Bureau.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
George Kittle had a tackle last night.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Who did?
Speaker 6 (44:15):
George Kittle.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah. So did he get credit for it? Yes. Well,
then they didn't keep the stat. That's just ridiculous. George Kittle.
If I have no tackles, then I never threw an interception.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
Steve, George Kittle had more tackles than Miles Garrett last night.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
We'll see how that means. The Rams, they're going. They're finished.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
Do we have pick sixes for Steve? Did you get that, Todd?
Speaker 2 (44:47):
According to Chad GPT, only four pick sixes.
Speaker 9 (44:50):
By Steve, which would only be 3.7% of his interceptions
returned for a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
That feels reasonable.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
You just told me you never threw a pick six.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Well, I mean, I don't remember any.
Speaker 6 (45:03):
How convenient of you, Steve. How convenient.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
If there's three, how many did I have in my
whole career? I think I probably had 47 in my
whole career for interceptions. What was it?
Speaker 6 (45:15):
How many interceptions did Steve Young have? I like that
you act like you don't know the stats. You know
all your stats.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Well, it might be 48.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
I have you at 107 interceptions, Steve.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I knew that, but I just didn't want it to
come out.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
I was trying to change the narrative. 107, and you'd
like to have all 107 back, wouldn't you?
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Well, I'll tell you, but I would just say 40
of them were beautiful.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Oh, so you did your job. They just did their
job better.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
They were perfect.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
But that's just life. That's, again, football is life. The
great metaphor. Yeah, you throw a perfect ball. Something got
screwed up. Go clean it up. And who did I blame? Myself.
Because you got them. In the end, if the ball
was in my hands and ended up in their hands,
if you don't own it, then we're in deep trouble. So.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
How about a round of applause for Steve Young with that?
Being the ultimate team player.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (46:27):
Nobody pats themselves on the back quite like Steve does.
Great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us as always.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Way to go.
Speaker 6 (46:39):
Thank you, buddy. That is Steve Young, one of the
best analysts in the business.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Hall of Famer. Yes, Martin.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Did he switch his golf stance? Is he back to like.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Oh, I.
Speaker 6 (46:53):
Dave, did you change your golf stance because of how
bad you played in Tahoe?
Speaker 3 (46:57):
What do you mean? What did we say? Middle of
the pack. And you're like.
It was the best I played. Look, I understand. Did
I beat Larry the Cable? No. Did I beat Larry
the Cable Guy? Yes.
Speaker 6 (47:10):
Yes, you did.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Did I beat Barkley? Yes. It was a huge success.
Speaker 6 (47:15):
But you can't brag about beating Larry the Cable Guy
and Barkley. You finished 55th.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
When you suck at golf, you do take what you
can get.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
But you said you were going to change, and then
you were going to be.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Oh, yeah, that's right. If I didn't go, I was
going to go lefty. You're right. So I did get...
My wife did mention that to me after the thing.
She goes, you promised. that if you, it was a
top half, right? It was, I had been the top
half and you got to go lefty. So, uh, we
got left. We do have lefty clubs. We're on the,
we're on the project.
Speaker 6 (47:46):
All right. Thank you for that update.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
I really don't want to update this anymore. This is
the last.
Speaker 6 (47:56):
Until next year in Tahoe. All right, boys, man, that's
Steve Young.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Anybody other cheap sheet, the cheap seed comments.
Speaker 7 (48:06):
About you?
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, like, you know, anyone else you want to remind
me about anything else I screwed up in life? You're
the one that... We talked about the... Oh, you poor thing.
Speaker 6 (48:18):
You poor thing. Man, you got it so tough. I
don't know how you did it. You grew up in
the mean streets of Greenwich. You go to BYU.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Bro, you know how tough it was to fight out
of that town?
Speaker 6 (48:30):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
How many guys have fought out of Greenwich, Connecticut before?
Not a lot.
Speaker 6 (48:36):
I don't think anybody had to fight out of credit.
Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
See you, boys.
Speaker 6 (48:43):
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