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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Squirmish going on what's new?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
All of these former athletes or athletes who want to
be talking heads to quote unquote new media and everything
is personal. Everybody has their panties in a bunch big
boots and we talk about it. This is why very
few guys who are they're guys who are really good
at it former athletes, but most of them are awful,
and most of them are gonna be bad because they
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can't separate the person, you know what I mean, like
you just they can't separate themselves from the idea that
they used to be competitors with people, and they can't be.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You know, who does a great job before we get
to who isn't real quick? He's my favorite Kevin Garnett.
You feel me, Brie, feels me, rob Gie. He he
can have a beef with you when they were on
the court. He's completely done. He'll say that person's amazing,
he used to give me buckets, or he just he's
not old. It better our way or this way. He
just he explains things so well. Now you're gonna get
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some curse words. And if you're thinking, you know, he's
gonna air it on on radio or TV. But KG
is great at that. He's kind of the opposite of
what you what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
But I agree, like even a guy like Shaq who
should be on a different level where he can't even
he can't even acknowledge Kareem abdul Jabbar, I just that
that just makes me muskin crawl rob g.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yeah, they're calling this one, guys, the biggest conflict between
the dark and a light skin since Drake and Kendrick
lamarn God, Draymond Green and Austin Rivers the beef we
didn't know we needed who knew? Let me take you
in the hot tub time machine. Just about a week ago,
this is how it all started. Draymond Green said on
his own podcast, Unsolicited that he believes his career trajectory
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might have been hindered by Steve Kerr, that Steve Kerr
never drew up any plays for him, that Steve Kerr
made him a jack of all trades kind of option.
He never became the offensive force. Maybe he could have
if he was showcased in a different way the way
he was in Michigan State. So a few days later,
Austin Rivers, now a member of the media, he.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Was showcased but he played well. That showcase is a
bit you know.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Okay was asked about those comments on the Dan Patrick
Show right here on Fox Sports Radio, and he said, quote,
it's ridiculous. Draymond is such a high Q. That's a
big part of his game, is how smart of a
player he is. So what bewilders me He even thinks that.
And he wasn't the only one. A lot of people
took give you what Draymond said, but Draymond felt a
kind of way about Austin Rivers being the one to
call him out until he had on his own podcast.
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Again goes off and saying, you know, I was actually
a comparable high school player to you, because that's the
only success you ever had.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
And see that he wasn't by the way.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
He made it very personal, and he says, this is
the best part I'm talking about Austin Rivers quote. This
guy received the biggest bailout in US history. Prior to
President Trump bailing out the airlines when they needed it,
Austin Rivers received the biggest bailout in maybe a history,
excuse me, world history, US history. Received the biggest bailout
ever when his dad gave him forty two million dollars.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Of course, talking about Doc Rivers with the Clippers.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Well, Austin Rivers decided to go full ether on Instagram
last night with his response to Draymond Green. Let's hear
part of it on Instagram Lousterin.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Rivers, Draymond, you were the luckiest basketball player I think
I've ever seen, especially in modern day history. Let's talk
about that. You were drafted to a franchise with the
Hall of Fame front office, Bob Myers, Hall of Fame coach,
Steve Kerr, the greatest shooter of all time and perhaps
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the top five player of all time. Steph Curry, Hall
of Famer, one of the greatest shooters, top five shooter
of all time. Another Hall of Famer, Klay Thompson, the
Swiss Army Knife himself, the guy who could do a
little bit of everything on the floor under a dollar,
another Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I know, keep up is a lot of talent.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Not to mention one of the most lethal scores of
all time and arguably a top ten player of all time.
Kevin Durant, the same guy you chased off because of
this your mouth. You talked too much, and that's not
even counting the plethora of talent on those guys, the
Deshaun Livingston's, the Barbosas, the Andrew Wiggins, the Jordan Pools,
who you also chased off. Cut it out, Draymond, you're
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the backpack jump shooter. You're the guy that everyone leaves open.
No one guards you. There are hours and hours and
hours of film of just you being left wide open,
in fact that anybody can just YouTube or google or
watch any Draymond game ever, and he's open all game.
There are clips of you getting a rebound and just
driving in a straight line and just getting a wide
open layup because everyone's fanning out to guard the actual
talent on the teams. Talking about Steve Kurr hinted your career, bro,
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Steve Kerr made your career. How dare you coming at me?
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Whish I could give muscle on two hundred million dollars
with falls a coach. You know, the NBA doesn't give
coaches coaching jobs. And guys who may or may not
sucker punch on the players in staff. You need to
fall back and Dre, let's just be friend of mees.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
He did end it very Drenk like that sounded like
that sounded like all.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'm gonna say is Austin Draymond. Austin Rivers is my
new hero, period point blank. Why so because I think
that he took Draymond apart, and rightfully so. The whole
thing was ridiculous, and that was why Austin Rivers you
the right ridiculous. Okay, plenty of players don't have plays
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drawn up for him for them. And what I even
talked to you about the Ben Wallace when Larry Brown
was there. They're not going to redo the playbook because
Ben Wallace ain't What do they do the first basket
of the game, they gave the ball had been whatever,
and they went back to doing what they done exactly,
you know what I'm saying. So and then for him
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to say they had comparable career, what.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Was the player of the country.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Comparable like college careers, not comparable, lottery pick, second round pick.
Nothing is comparable about those two and their basketball talent.
And I've said this before. He could have gone to
a lot of thirty other teams. Forget thirty, right, thirty
other teams, twenty five of the would not be where
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he is and set up. Even when the Pistons offer
him all that money, you remember to come back home
and play. You think you think he was crazy? Right,
he could have got paid. He knew that him going
there wouldn't be anything. He's not that type of player.
He's not going to alter unchanged a franchise. He's a
player who has his own skill set and is valuable.
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But come on, man, He's in a perfect situation. And
of course Tom Brady has the title of the low
the luckiest of all time. But Draymond Green is in
that class too. Everything is fortunate for him and it
all works out and that's why he is where he is.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Oh you got your ticket round? Are you ready for
the apology Tour? Because this is getting ready to happen.
Draymond does this where he goes too far as takes
stuff personally, takes shots of people said too much and
any why didn't mean like yeah, probably to you know,
I get it as an ex athlete, I probably want
you bought it to da Get ready to get your
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tickets for the apology tour because he's gonna apologize to
what he said about Steve Kurr. That's coming because Steve
curR is in a very key critical moment of his life,
right trying to figure out what to do.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Do I move on? Do I stay with my family? Now?
Do I come back and coach again? Do I do
do TV?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And you're and then you're already out here like I
like him in all, but this is what I could
have been.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I could have been this that's coming.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think he's gonna be an apology tour to Austin
Rivers because I think he's gonna realize Austin Rivers started
off complimenting him. His singular point was your IQ is
what made you great. I'm actually shocked you feel like this.
So he was complimenting them, saying, you have a great
skill set, you were masterful at what you did, one
of the best of all time at what you do.
So why was that necessarily a negative thing? So why
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are you and your feelings about this? Are you an
NBA player, Rob or is he a media member? Because
part of being an NBA player is media members. Now
that Austin Reeves is they criticize your game, criticized the thing,
So why are you sensitive? This is him talking about
a player who's done or said some stuff. So this
Dray make up your mind, your media, your player. What
are we doing here? Because Austin Rivers says something about
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you the player, that's.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
What that's his job. That's his job.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Dan Patrick didn't have him on to just shred you.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
He wanted to get Austin Rivers is a is a commentator.
Now what did you make of that? That's what he does.
He gives an opinion. So Rivers goes, well, I can't
answer that, or I don't want to say anything about
then guess what.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Austin Rivers won't be on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
And oh exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And he didn't make it all personal bringing up your
dad and your this and your dad.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
That's personal.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
M I stop being so sensitive the person who talks
the most about everybody who punches and chokes people. God,
even being so sensitive it doesn't make any sense to me. Also,
you were in a great situation where because you were
hyper focused on an individual kind of a skill set,
the thing that you do best that made you a
Hall of Famer, Like that's a good thing. You landed
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in a position where you were able to focus on
being the offensive nighter. You got it going, and they
play to you to get the people the ball, that's fun,
that's a and the best defender on that team for
twelve fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Those are complimentary pieces that get you in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
You mentioned Ben Wallace, you mentioned the Dwight Howard, you
mentioned a Dennis Rodman like dude. There is a place
for that. So the idea that has to be a
negative thing, I just don't get it. And lastly, if
Drayvond Green was a Washington Wizard of Charlotte Horneer the
Detroit Pisson during the purgatory years, guess what would have happened.
He would have averaged eighteen the points. I believe it.
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And he guess what would have happened. He would have
had a three year career. You know why punching people,
choking people, cussing out coaches, running off teammates when it
only works when you got four rings. It doesn't work
when you were just a guy on a team that's
winning twelve, eighteen, twenty five games.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
You would have been out of the league.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Choking people, punching people, getting on the text, get costing
the team with fines and penalties and all that. You
would it would not have worked out. Take the blessing.
You don't have to make it person Austin Reeves was
not trying to disrespect and I don't want keep doing
this tour with all these guys with the pods. I'm
sorry I went too far. I'm sorry I said that.
My bad on that I don't I'm.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Over it's so bad.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I'm with you and Austin, I'm shocked he would say that,
considering he's the high Q guy knows what his role
was right now, your dad and your this, and he
got like, why are you making it personal?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And a ball loud or whatever? He was He was
a lottery pick. Hey, you did Doc Rivers make him
a lottery pick?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
He was a high school player of the year. He
was a lottery pick.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
He only had to pay one year and was a
lottery picky, and and and his career wasn't the greatest.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
It happens. But the idea that, like, you have to
address him, because.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
We talked about Christian lad who we think is one
of the top college players of all time.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
He didn't have a great NBA career either.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
It it happens if the idea that you have to
go at one of your guys and got anybody that
challenge you.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
He says the wildest stuff. He called what he called that.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Ass No, No he didn't he did that was said, No,
that was McCoy.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Shady.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
McCoy called him, yeah, drake, and I forgot what he
called out.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
People talk about you gotta apologize. My whole point is, dude, like.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
What rob g what did he called dak Because now
it's on the tip of my bum.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
That's what I think. He said.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It was a bum and he was I shouldn't do that.
You know, he's playing. I get it, especially.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Coming from an athlete who knows he wins that.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You know, he hasn't won in the playoffs like that,
but he wins at a high level twelve and five three, Like,
I've just shocked that for someone who acts like he's
so enlightened and so uh you know, intellectual, that he
always has to go back to the base the floor
of you know, just.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
It's always in the gutter. And that's what he does.
He tries to claim like he's some medium so intellectual,
it's always run to the gutter and let me attack
anybody who has a foul I could have foul words
against everybody. As soon as somebody says anything about me,
I'm going to go there and attack them and tell
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you it reminds me of somebody else who's around who
does that, and like like you just cannot ever say
anything about them without them attacking you immediately. And that's
where Draymond is. And go ahead, ESPN and inside the
NBA and all that stuff you want to put that
guy on and whatever. It's so bad. It's so bad
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that they allow someone who's so immature, so self centered,
so mean spirited to be a voice of the league
and be you know what I mean, have a voice
like that.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It's so bad.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'm just shocked to you with the Steve Kerr like, dude,
even if you feel that way, you have the absolute
right to feel that way.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, but when did he do it? Because Steve Kerr's on.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
The rope too, He's on the ropes trying to figure
out his life.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Like we donet been through battles together, and in like now,
right now, I've stunted your growth and career, Like that's
a book, conversation, that's a podcast, late, that's a one
on one.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
He have him on the show and have an honest
conversation with him.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But the idea that you just I'm trying to figure
out what I'm doing and figure out life, and then
you just add a little fuel and that's just unnecessary