Ezekiel Elliott is in His Feelings

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Zeke Broussard, because he's holding out, unbelieved, believe you can't
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stuff that we're trying to work out, and we'll appreciate
you pinch hitting until we get there. At at least
I could do your family. We're family here, you know.
So you know, Chris is in the middle of a holdout,
so he's pulling his zeke. He's in Cobbo right now.
And uh and he's probably upset about because the rumor
is that you said Chris who over the weekend. Yeah,

(02:46):
now he's upset about it. Nice way. He got his
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want to welcome and bring everybody in and then we'll
jump on the Zeke story because it is interesting and
I know people get their feelings hurt or whatever. But
but let's just welcome in the Odd Couple crew, because
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the program. And let me say this Jonas real quick. Yeah,
buddy of mine is celebrating today. It's his fiftieth birthday
five ball and I don't like to do a lot
of birthday shout outs, but this is a special one.

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A real close friend of mine, James in New Mexico.
James turning to Big five. Oh uh. Grew up in
Cincinnati and we met in Detroit and worked together at
d IV. What a great guy, and I just wanted
to send that little shout out to him. Well, happy
birthday to James in New Mexico. Um, and he's listening
to us on the radio. Yeah, and no question you're

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definitely gonna be sending him a birthday gift. I'm assuming
it'll be a gift card to a very popular place
in New Mexico. One that's what it is. Yeah, one
that's already been spent, I'm sure is the move from
Rob Parker when oh, come on, nah, I wouldn't do that.
By the way, you want to talk about how you okay,
this is? This is? This is Rob Parker. You want
to know what vacationing is with Rob Parker. You go

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and you get wings in Texas and then you brag
because it came with a get five free wing car.
I gotta coop. My god, come on you and were
you not impressed? Come on now, most people would hide that.
I'm not ashamed of myself at all. I'm not gonna
hide that. I was geeked when I was at the
Rangers game and they gave out coupons for five free

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wings at the restaurant that I was going to check
wings at. Now, now, okay, five free wings in most
spots means five of the worst wings they've got on
the menu. So were they okay? Were they decent? Did
the coupon? Oh? No, they were good? That for whatever
I ordered. So I had ten total, so I ordered five.
I ordered ten. I already paid for five, So it
was a nice deal. And yeah, I mean, I'm not

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I'm not one. I'm not gonna hide that or act like, oh,
I don't want to let people know that I got
a coupon him was happy to use it. I mean, look,
it could be worse. You could take a picture you're
lifting up your shirt on Instagram. Oh yeah, I could
do that as well. You're right, so we'll leave that.
But here we go. Okay, So so I get it.
Jerry Jones is wanting to negotiate to beat his chest,

(05:49):
say hey, we don't need a running back. We could
do it without them. We don't need Zekiel Elliott. And
some guy named Tony Pollard has a cup pull of
decent a little training camp and some preseason football against anybody,
and they're touting him like he's the next Emmit Smith.

(06:10):
And and I know it was in jest, and he
was trying to be funny. What he said, uh what
he said that he was U you know, Zeke Coo
basically said who yeah, and we now Zeko and he
was joking, and we have we have the sound. This
is Jerry Jones talking about the situation with Ezekiel Elliott.

(06:30):
I believe this was Clarence Hill who was having the
conversation with him. Here was Jerry Jones. What's negotiating with Zeke?
Nah until they lose their first couple of games and
policial to twenty two yards? Why why Jonas, Why there's

(06:52):
no reason to do that? Why? Oh? Come on, man,
he's busting balls? Big deal because he said, Zeke who?
If zekes that insecure, then you know what, come back
and stop being sensitive to Jerry Jones busting your balls
or at least agree to the contract that they got you.
He's teasing him a little bit, big deal, you do
you don't see anything wrong with oh, not at all.

(07:13):
He's teasing him. He's saying, Zeke who. It's a joke.
Everybody knows who Zeke Elliott is. They know he's one
of the best running backs. But this ball but this
is let me tell you something. And I normally, you know,
I could take a joke as well as anybody, But
when you're talking about someone's livelihood and what they have
to do and what they're doing right now in their career,
as much as you believe that, oh what is he

(07:36):
worried about? Everything will be fine and he'll get his
money and all that, it ain't that automatic. And right
now he's probably feeling like, Man, I would rather be
with my teammates. This is kind of tough, And now
the owners are joking at my expense as if I
don't matter. And because of the nature of that position
and running backs, when you see people get used up

(08:01):
and and and uh recycled and and and replaced all
the time, I could see where I wouldn't feel that
comfortable with it. I think it was cool. I really
I think there's a couple of things that are happening here.
Number one, um, I think that Zeke and his agent
are trying to use this to win back the approval
of the public, because it sounds like Zeke is just

(08:23):
vacationing in Cabo and doesn't really care about the team.
So I think that's that's part of what's happening here.
So they're trying to play the victim card, and that's fine.
Here's what else is happening. And you know this, and
anybody listening to this right now knows this. When are
you the most offended by something that somebody says when
you know part of it is true. And I think
that Zeke maybe feels a little bit insecure right now

(08:45):
because Tony Pollard has looked good. It's only the preseason.
I'm not saying that guy, Rob, I'm saying, don't be
that guy. You're the same guy I had to argue with.
I argue with. I argue with the guy at the
airport some some uh affairs I did, and he was
bringing his chest about about James Connor. And I said,

(09:09):
you guys didn't even make the playoffs. How could you
beat your chest about James Connor numbered were close to what? Uh?
I just uh, maybe I'll bell his numbers were close.
I said, did you make the playoffs? Look, I got, well,
no he didn't. I said, too, don't celebrate that. Do
not celebrate Okay, but I look, I get it. I'm

(09:31):
not saying that this guy that Ted Pollard is anywhere
in Zeke's class. All I'm saying is the fact that
Zeke and his agent would pretend like they're actually offended.
First of all, I don't think they're actually really offended. Um. Secondly,
I think this is because Zeke maybe is feeling a
little bit insecure because the closer we get to the season,
the less I feel like they're gonna have a deal
done by week one. And I don't think Dallas is

(09:53):
going to cave on this. I don't think Jerry Jones
is gonna cave on this. Everyone wants to go back
to twenty something years ago and say, well, the time
this happened, they gave Emma Smith a contract after they
lost their first two games. Okay, forget going back to
twenty years ago. Let's go back to recent history with
the Dallas Cowboys. Recent history tells us when they have
a highly productive running back that they have drafted and

(10:15):
they have groomed a guy like DeMarco Murray, who had
nearly twenty five hundred yards of total offense from the
line of scrimmage. He had eighteen hundred plus rushing. He
had another four hundred out of the backfield. He was
highly productive, as highly a productive running back as Dallas
has ever seen. And you know what Dallas did. Dallas said, man,
what a great year. I'll tell you what, not only

(10:36):
are we not going to pay you, We're gonna let
you walk to a division rival that's in the recent
example that people should be looking at. Stop going back
to Emmett Smith twenty something years ago. Dallas has shown
you they don't value the running back like other franchises do.
They show how many playoff wins have they gotten in
the last twenty five years. I look, I get it.
I'm not saying that I agree with it, but I'm

(10:56):
saying Dallas this is who Dallas is. I don't think
they want to Hey, Zeke the money he's asking for,
I really don't all right? Coming up next, did Jerry
Jones cross the line when he made the joke about
Ezekiel Elliott. We'll continue the conversations with you, and yes,
Chris Brussard as well. Finally, the holdout is over. It's
The Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hey Jonas, thanks

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Rob PARTI za, come on, I'm bad back into the show.
Come on, I was holding out for Rob Parker money.
Yeah right, you got. Chris wanted to give me Jason
mcintarre money. I said, no, I want Rob Parker money. Parker, Hey,
I understand somebuddy. What's happening, man? How are you a

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few technical difficulties on line? He got it all out.
I am back, I am back. I heard you starting
to show without me. Shout out to Jonah's Knox always
does a great job, man, that's all God. He's all
ghost for God when we need him. And I did
say too. I wanted to correct one thing. My buddy James.
I celebrate his fiftieth birthday today. I said he was
in New Whatctico. He's now in Winston Salem. So he

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was listening and he appreciated that soul. Let's send that
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(12:51):
talking about the Ezekiel Elliott situation, him being upset that
Jerry Jones made the joke about Zeke, who look. I
do think Jerry Jones was joking. He was trying to,
you know, make light of the matter. I don't think
he had any ulterior motives. Maybe it was a little jab,
but um, I don't think he meant any harm. However,

(13:16):
I do understand why Ezekiel Elliott would be bothered by that,
because you're talking about money, livelihood, Chris, you know what,
I think people just lose sight and goal. While he's
gonna get paid. When you when you're like holding out,
you don't know where your career is gonna go. There's
there's questions. You start to doubt stuff and what's going on,

(13:38):
and it puts you in a very weird spot where
that confident running back and all that, all of a
sudden feels a little like, wait a minute, what's going
on here? They don't want me? How come they haven't?
You know what I mean? You start no question things,
no question, no matter how great you are, until its
signed and it looks right Now. Old Zeke's in Cobo,
he's working out. Its weight is down. He actually flew

(14:00):
back to Dallas for a haircut and to get some clothes. Now,
he's back in Cobo. He's chilling. He's not worried. No,
he's worried, doesn't mean he's not strong, doesn't mean he's
not confident, doesn't mean he doesn't think he'll get it done.
But until it's signed, you're worried. No, you're not. You're not.
You don't, Chris, we talk about it all the time.

(14:21):
It ain't done until it's done, no matter what you think.
And you go, oh, there's no way the Cowboys are
gonna go forward without me. I'm not. I just ran.
I've won the Russian title two of my first three years,
we won the division uh twice in three years. People
are talking about maybe us going making a Super Bowl run.
There's all kinds of stuff going on. So you want

(14:42):
to believe and be confident that that it is. But
you've seen other situations and circumstances where it doesn't work out.
Levon Bella's in New York Jets right now. If you
would have told me a year or a go two
years ago, he wouldn't be with the Stealers. I tell
you crazy, No, I'm with you on that. So understand
where Zeke's coming from. And you know Rob from the beginning.

(15:04):
I've been with you in hoping that Zeke gets paid.
I think he's the best running back in the league.
I think he deserves to get paid. But that collective
bargaining agreement is horrible, especially for running backs. And I
have said from the get go, trying to look at
this objectively, putting myself in both shoes, Zeke shoes Jerry

(15:25):
Jones shoes. If I'm in Jerry Jones shoes, i am
waiting to start the season especially And I'm not saying
Tony Politter's old Jay Simpson. Maybe that was a bad name.
I'm not saying he's Eric Dicker, Ezekiel Elliott all right,
But as with him looking good so far, with our
schedule being the New York Giants, who I'm you know,

(15:48):
they may be a little tougher than expected, but their
defense is young. If you're really a Super Bowl contender,
you should be able to win that game. You got
Washington next, you got my after that. Three bad teams
or at least projected to be bad. I'm willing if
I'm Jerry Jones to go in the Week one with

(16:09):
Tony Pollard as my starting running back, and if the
if the rushing game looks strong. If Pollard looks good,
I'm getting yards on the ground and we win, then
I'm moving on until I feel like Zeke would come back.
Remember Jerry Jones said it about a week or so ago.

(16:30):
He said, the leverage really begins in the regular season. No,
it does, and he could see that. He said, Look,
it could hurt or it could help the team, or
it could hurt the team. Right, if it could help
the player, or it could hurt the player, said a
drop game one to a you know so so New
York Giants team, I'm going right to Zeke and giving
girly money. He might sell more about that point, But

(16:50):
I say Pollard has a bad day, just say it.
You know what I mean? Forty yards, It can't get
the ground game going, Dac is sacked and can make
any offense and what not. Then you go, oh my god,
what are we doing here? Right? Well, here's the If
you win the game, then you look differently. Even if
they win but can't run the ball, I'm still looking

(17:11):
at Zeke, you know what I mean. Like, if we
beat the Giants, we know they're not that good, we
know their defense is young, but we rushed for fifty
seven yards total or something like that. Not happy, right,
then I'm going back to get Zeke, but I am
willing to enter the regular season without him when the
leverage is really gonna gonna you know, go to one side.

(17:31):
Here's the only reason why I don't want to go
onto that road. From this standpoint, it could wind up
costing you the division with where the Eagles are and whatnot.
And I'm just saying, Chris, if you would have losed
the first game or two, and those are both division
games right to Giants in Washington, those are huge games
as far as winning the division. Do you want to

(17:52):
be a wild card on the road or do you
want to be have a bide when the division have
a biden in the home playoff game? That's huge. Well,
that's why if if I lost the first game to
the hapless Giants, then I don't think I'm letting it
get to weak, right, I mean, unless Zeke it just
starts sticking out his chest and is getting really unreasonable,

(18:14):
you know. But I wouldn't let it go that far
because you're absolutely right. I mean, two division games. If
they were two bad teams out of the division, that's
a different story. But two division games, and they are rivals.
I mean, we know the whole division is a rivalry,
but that that adds something too. They are you know
that Giants Cowboys and Mudskins Cowboys. Those are big games,

(18:37):
no matter what the records are between those teams, no
matter where they are. Those are two of the Markey matchups.
Here's the thing about Tony Pollard for Jerry Jones and
maybe other Cowboys fans who are starting to feel like,
hey man, this might be the guy who you know,
who knows, but we'll see what type of career or
season he has. But he only average. Last year he

(19:01):
carried the ball at Memphis more than he ever had
in his three years there, and he's still average. Hurd
in six carries a game. He had two hundred and
forty three touches, catches, receptions and running the ball rushes.
In his entire three years at wile See. He was

(19:22):
a part time like running back and part time receiver
and a great kick returner. Two. So Zeke had over
three hundred carries last year just carries alone, He had
more than than Pollard had touches in his entire Memphis career.
So Pollard i don't know, and he looks he looks

(19:44):
very smooth, very swift, got good speed, good acceleration, you know,
broke some tackles on that touchdown run. But can he
take the pounding? I don't. He doesn't look like a
guy and he certainly doesn't have that history of being
able to take the pounding and carrying it one to
twenty five times in a game. Yeah, we don't know.
It's it's a it's a big question mark and we

(20:06):
don't know. So I think it's going to be, as
you said, kind of a look and see thing, to
just see where where it really fits in and whether
or not it's going to work for the Cowboys. It's
it's they're rolling the dice. I get it. They have
a player under contract, they don't really want to do
business and pay them before they have to write. But

(20:27):
in this case, because of the CBA, I respect also
where Ezekiel Elliott is, and I understand why he feels
he has to get paid. Now, who would you pay first?
Of the three? Cooper, Prescott, Zeke. I would pay Zeke
because Zeke is the one out of camp. The other
two guys are in camp. I would pay Dak first.

(20:47):
Just because I think you need to pay him. Now,
if he has a good year, the type of year
you hope he has, then that number is just gonna
go even higher. But what if he has a bad year? Yeah,
that's I mean, that's good and that you don't Ezekiel
just say he has a bad year and you see
without the running game or it's not as good, then

(21:09):
you then you would feel like you would be in
the job, not that you're wishing. Yeah, obviously that's the problem,
even our quarterback, right, You're you're not wishing that of
you're the cowboys, even though it would save you money,
right right. And I don't expect Zeke to be out
the entire year. No, that's the thing. He just have
Levion bell leverage. It's a different situation, right. Leon found

(21:30):
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all areas. All right, can the Cowboys afford to start
the season without Zekiel Elliott? Super Bowl champion set Joiner
has the answer next, but first, be sure to catch
live editions of The Odd Couple with Chris Brussard and
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and Chris real quick, it really is a magic city
Monday for me. As you know, I'm in Atlanta, so

(22:14):
we'll be your partaicular little. Are you going there tonight? Oh? Yes, yes, yes, sir,
I'm gonna be praying for you. Thank you, pray for me.
That you that you have a change of direction as
you're going. You just feel lad. You know what. Let
me go home, cole showered. It'll be all good. I
got some donations to make school starting in two weeks.

(22:36):
Christ Hey, you know who else is a praying man?
Our next guest, Yes, Seth Joiner, super Bowl Champion FS
one NFL analyst post of the Seth Joiner Uncut podcast.
Also a student at a theological seminaries. That's still true, Seth. Oh,
I'm already done with that. Brother. There it is, and

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I can I know and figure out. When I heard
The Odd Couple, I was trying to figure out who
was Phillipson? Who was Oscar? I know, I don't even
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I feel Oscar? You know who's Oscar? Would be going

(23:22):
to Magic City tonight? In at last there was no
Magic City back in those days. All right, Seth Joiner
joining the Seth great to have you on. Let's just
start with the story of the day. Ezekiel Elliott being
upset about Jerry Jones. Is you know Zeke who joke?
Is Zeke just being overly sensitive? Or do you get
where he's coming from? Man? All of these guys are

(23:45):
holy sensitive? Man? He sensitive about Jerry making a comment
like that. These guys are sensitive about the that he
ate sports with raiding and whatnot. I mean, come on, man,
it's like what is wrong with players to day? Wrong?
It's like, what are you upset about? You made decision
to hold out for the money, So whatever they say

(24:05):
they say, the only thing that matters to you is
they gotta pay you. You gotta understand the business and
the onelling negotiations. Things are said and that negotiating time.
But then once it's done is done, you move on.
You know, I mean, he'd be shocked at some of
the things that are said behind closed doors that his
agents probably is that he never did. Like you don't.

(24:26):
But dude, if he made your decisions, hold out, hold out,
whatever Jerry says, he's gonna say. He gotta do what
you gotta do. You try to get you in camp
at the price you want to get you out. Yeah,
but I don't think you need to make that set.
I disagree. It doesn't have to be public. You just
said it. There's a lot of stuff that's talked about
as far as negotiations. It's a cheap shot by Jerry.

(24:46):
Jerry hasn't won jack in twenty five years, and he's
the guy you're following. He's the guy making jokes. He
finally has a chance with a running back to maybe
win a Super Bowl after twenty five years, and he's
making jokes on some unknown James Pollard. I'm not with that, Tony.

(25:08):
I am not. I am not a Cowboys fan in
the least a little bit. I am the most thrilled
individual right now because the Dallas Cowboys every single year
trying the way to stuff and clothe and bring bring
destruction upon themselves. Okay, but the question was was deep
being too sensitive? Yeah? Man, you know, if you if
you're an NFL player, you understand you gotta have thick skin.

(25:30):
You gotta have thick skins on the ship. If that's
the case, you know, if I was playing in today's
game now, I'd be all in Zeek's mind if he
get if he get moved by something like that that
Jerry said. Oh, I can't even begin to tell you
the things that I'd be saying to him during the game.
And you kidding me to try to get him out
of out of his game. Come on, man, well speaking
to another about another sensitive guy. How about Antonio Brown?

(25:53):
Is this? I think it's ridiculous. I get being attached
to a helmet U And I guess you could still
try to go through the motions and try to get
that helmet, you know, be able to play in it.
But at the very least he could still be with
the team even if he's not practicing, if he doesn't
like the helmet he has yet. I mean, what's your
take on this whole thing? Let me give you another

(26:14):
to therror. You remember back in the day, you know,
back in my day, when you was holding out for
a contract. You had to hold out, you had to
sit it on. No training camp until you got your
dead bell, right you guys remember that, right? Yeah? Yeah?
And Antonio don't want to go to camp, man, I
mean you look at him on Instagram, you look at
him on Twitter. Man, he trains like a beast all

(26:36):
year long. Because you don't want to go to training camp.
I mean you are not not showing up to be
with your branding team. You just signed the boatload of
money for over a dog on helmet. Man. Dude, just
don't want to go through the dregs and the druggers
the training camp. You know, because you saw what happened
Mike Mayo. You know, through down the gauntlet. He shows
us behind up the work today, right right right? So

(27:00):
you think he just wants to get there and get
the season going and playing games, but not go through
the training camp. Come on, man, I mean realistically, you're
not gonna go. You don't hit nobody in training camp anyway.
What you worried about where helmets you went on for? Right,
You barely hit anybody doing during the season anymore. Why
are you worried about what helmet you win? So you

(27:21):
say so you say total nonsense. No, because it's funny.
I read quotes from Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers who
said that they had a problem. To a matter of fact,
Greg Jennings was on Undisputed last week and relay the
same exact story that he fought the league when they
wanted to take his helmet away. And I'm not saying
I don't know a d's all. I understand when you

(27:42):
become an older player, training camp is not that attractive
to you after you've been doing it for ten years.
But the other guys I talked to, they said, it
is a difference when you give up a helmet that
you worn for ten years. So you'll say that there's
no there's no difference in helmets no matter what you
put on. Hey, listening, football players play football in one
of and the gear that you needed to play football

(28:03):
as a helmet. Okay, Tom Brady adjusted, Aaron Rodgers adjusted,
and they did. But they did adjusted, and Greg Jennings adjusted,
but they didn't say deal about it. Man, They didn't
make a big deal about it. If that's the rule,
that's the rule. If you're gonna play the game and
you ay by the rules that you gotta make the ajob.
But there I saw the rule in the CBA that
allows you to have a hearing on it. He only

(28:24):
did was what's did, what's do what what was allowed
by him. There's no set up where you can't appeal
it or try to explain to them why it's a
big deal. This is the reason right here why you
know people talk about Antonio Brown as great as a
players as he did. They talk about him being a
diva and a lot of gems wouldn't wouldn't touch him,
wouldn't stand football, because there's always from drama with him. Man,

(28:48):
there's always something going on. Listen. You wanted out that
you wanted out of Pittsburgh, you got out. You wanted
a new deal, you got a new deal, You got it.
You got you another team. Man, Now you're gonna go
to the other team creating rama, you know, like you
did when you was at the other team. Come on, man,
people ain't people only gonna go so far before you
know they cut the floor and say, you know what,
enough is enough? Man? So what you do with them?

(29:10):
If you were the GM, would you cut him today?
You know, because you gave up too much to cut him?
You know you got a play. But at some point
in time they listen the thing about the NFL. Okay,
once you get the year ten, everybody starts to drop
off just a little bit. Okay, the first sign to
drop off. You know, with all the draft picks that
they got, Man, they don't have to deal with them

(29:30):
the headache. Man, they go get them another wide receive.
You might not be another Antonio Brown, but if you
got a complete, complimented wide receiver, good tight end, good
running back, you don't need us. You don't need that
the headache. You know, the Antonio Brown's gonna cause you.
Man just's gonna come a point in time where he's
gonna run himself high of the game before he has
to those stealing years. He ain't gonna get to because

(29:50):
they no team gonna want to deal with the dramas
Man super Bowl Champion, Seth joining joining the I Couple, Seth,
how is this playing in the locker room? You've been
in locker rooms obviously. How do you think it's playing
in Oakland with with ab You know, I mean the
problem is a lot of guys don't norm that he
was going through this with with with the Steelers. You know,

(30:11):
they'd be like, oh man, that's just a B, B
and AP. But you know, he wouldn't need teams who
had coach who often coordinated to while the series coach
new teammates. You got young guys, old guys. Everybody's probably
got an opinion, and there's probably factions in the in
the locker room that are like some guys are probably
four and some guys like, man, this is ain't been
here a whole year. He already calls the drama and

(30:32):
it's just you know, and I'm not one of those
people that believe in distractions, you know, because I think
distractions are you know, when people talk about, oh, you know,
he's a distraction, I think that's just an excuse for
people use. But when they don't accomplish what they want
to accomplish, you get played to play the game. You
can pay to to prepare every single week, and you
didn't pay the show up for three and a half
four hours on Sunday and do what you do, do

(30:53):
what you love to do. So distractions to me ain't
but as an excuse. But this early on in the
in the preseason, and any cam man, come on, he's
gonna need this especially you know, with a young team
and an up and coming team like the Raidings, they
don't need this drama. Man. Yeah, they got a lot
of young players even on that offense too, and they're
watching this and to see I think it's gonna be

(31:15):
tough for Gruden to create a winning culture with the
way things are going now. I don't think it's too late,
but if this continues, it's gonna be very hard to
do that. If he goes down and plays of the
way he's capable of playing, it can only help the games.
What the games can't come soon enough because with a
b it's always about all the off the field stuff.

(31:35):
If he scores fifteen touchdowns in fifteen games like he
did a year ago, people will get back to talking
about what a great player he is. Well, I agree,
I think you know, winning cures everything. But you know,
if they get off to a bad start and things
start to go sideways, you know a lot of people
are gonna be looking at him. You're right, you know,
I understand what you're saying. But you know, the thing

(31:58):
is the thing perfecting me about this. You know, if
I'm a gem, if I'm Mike Mayo, Okay, when when
me and John Drew made a decision to make this move. Okay,
I would love to gonna fly on the wall to
hear the conversation that they had about how Antony was
going to transition to the Raiders and how they were
gonna handle him. You know, did you later, did you

(32:20):
lay down from law, did you lay down some rules
or two regulations, or did you just sign this guy
and just kind of ignore all the red flags that
was that was waving from his time and in Pittsburgh.
I'd be so curious to hear that. And then now
with Mike Mayo said, we're saying when he said yesterday,
what's the atmosphere gonna be like moving forward? What's this

(32:40):
gonna be? What's it gonna be like the next time?
He has a little dust, plenty of drama, that's for sure.
Great stuff. Seth as always man, We appreciate it. We'll
get you back on soon. Thank you, gotta man, Thank
you brother. That's Super Bowl champion Seth Joiner joining the
Eye Couple, one of the most hated men in Los Angeles,
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(33:25):
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(33:47):
you mean? So I say, you know I'm going. I
always tell you when I'm gonna do something, and I
do it all right, you know what, I'm just putting
it out there. You know I'm going. I can't wait.
Actually it'll be you know what, school is too? Uh
some of the women need books, the young women out
so they need books and they need uh all kinds
of stuff to get the bag. Huh. I'm gonna have

(34:10):
some school supplies to throw on the stage. Well, hey,
you'll be in Atlanta I mean, I guess there's a
chance you could see in Atlanta native there who the
Lakers are courting. His name was Dwight Howard. They're not
going to revisit that. Come on, Chris, you don't think
they should even think about bringing back the white Howard

(34:31):
Obviously de Marcus Cousins out with the torn acl there
since the Marcus, that totally hurts them. That hurts them
big time. I'm telling you they won't. Marcus will be out. Yes,
he's that's that's it for the Lakers. No, are you serious?
I'm dead serious. No, you're not. There were whole lot
of catch they were coping to catch lightning in a
bottle with that dude. He had so much to play for.

(34:53):
We saw him in the playoffs, Chris, when he was
healthy before he got hurt. He made a difference for
the Warriors if you were one game, one kid one final.
Then he got hurt again. I think season was not
riding on DeMarcus Cousin. I think he could have been
the great individual talent, but he's never shown that he

(35:15):
plays winning basketball. He just hasn't, so why they signed him.
So they just signed him for the hell of it,
because he's got talent and they needed bodies. I mean
they waited to the last moment. No, they waited for
the last moment for the whole roster. Was the last moment. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. Like they look, they've still got,
in my book, the best duo in the league, Lebron

(35:37):
James and Anthony Davis. They still have a supporting cast
that is more than capable of getting it done. Kyle Kuzman,
who I think can be the number three. I like
him better as the third score than Boogie. You got
Avery Brady, got Danny Green. They're gonna do Rajon Rondo
like they're going to be. They still can be good

(35:58):
without because they didn't need twenty twelve from Boogie. No,
I understand that, but I think it's gonna be exactly.
I think that team also has a chance of imploding
with Lebron james seventeenth year, with the history of a
d missing fourteen or more games in five of his
first seven seasons, and some many other stuff. I mean,

(36:19):
there's some question marks that you could that could blow
up on the Lakers and people go, how did that happen? Again?
Kyle Kuzma has never played in a big game. I
like Kyle Kuzma's game, but he's never played in a
big game in his NBA career yet. Now all bets
are off everything that you were just out there chucking
balls out there. Now that you have a d there
and you have a chance, everything changes now. So I

(36:42):
haven't seen him yet, So you wouldn't go. You You
just don't even want to mess with Dwight Howard if
you're a lie. I just wouldn't. I just wouldn't. It
was so bad when he was in LA. To revisit
that and to have that blow up in your face again,
that would be on you. You know what I mean. Well, yeah,
I hear what you're saying, and I think that is

(37:03):
a possibility. But I also think it's low risk, potentially
solid reward. Here's what I mean. You sign him for
the veteran minimum. If he acts up, if he's not
fitting in the locker room for whatever reason, he's just
a knucklehead, or he's not buying into the system, the offense,
whatever he thinks, he's still the Dwight Howard of two

(37:24):
thousand and nine. Cut him just like Houston did with Mellow,
and you can let him go and you lose, you know,
a couple million dollars and that's it. It's not like
you have to keep him, not like you're giving him
big money. On the other hand, if he buys in,
he's been humbled. If he fits into the system, he
can defend the big guys. He can bang with the

(37:44):
big bodies, which Anthony Davis doesn't want to do. He
gets still rebound and protect the rim and give you
fifteen twenty minutes a night that I'm just saying that
it's low risk to me, potentially solid reward. I'm gonna
pass on Dwight Howard. I see the act long enough.
I'm good. So is there another guy you'd want? No,

(38:05):
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(39:07):
so keep it locked right there. Definitely can't wait for that.
All right, interesting story development, Rob. Late last week, Jay
Z cuts a deal with the NFL to handle all
of their entertainment, you know, for the Super Bowl and
other events that they have on booking acts and stuff

(39:27):
like that. And also there's a social justice initiative component
to the deal that Jay Z cut with the league.
And we found out today that he is believed to
become reportedly a minority owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Looks
like you get I've read about five percent ownership with

(39:50):
the Steelers. I thought it was bigger than that. I
thought it was. I thought it was that's what I
read that could Rob g is there out there when
they say significant, photo's gonna be more than yeah, because
remember the Rooney's, they're they're not obviously not giving up
any type of majority ownership of the team. But I
thought it would be that that, you know, you don't
really do too much when you have fluss than five

(40:11):
percent or whatever, right, right, So that and maybe it's
more than that. That's a figure I read, but maybe
they made it when they said it. They originally said significant.
To me, five percent is not significant, right right, So
it's just me. A lot has been said about this.
I have my opinion. I want to hear yours first,
robe where do you say jay Z let he's getting crushed? Well,

(40:34):
let's hear from Eric Reid, who's one of the players
that h has been critical of jay Z. And of course,
Eric Reid the first NFL player to kneel beside Colin Kaepernick,
and he's still kneeling. He's one of I believe three
players left in the league that's kneeling. Here's what Eric
Reid of the Carolina Panthers said about jay Z. When

(40:54):
is JAYZ ever taking a knee to come out and
tell us that we're past Niel Yes, he's done a
lot of great work, with a lot of great social
justice work. But for you to get paid to go
into an NFL press conference to say that we're passing
Nieling again asking player's coalition two point oh. He got

(41:15):
paid to take the bullets that he's taken out because
we're not having it all right, rob My view on this.
First of all, I do think that jay Z I
understand some of the criticism he s Last year he
was telling guys and acts and performers not to perform
in the Super Bowl because of what happened to Colin

(41:37):
Kaepernick and now deal with the league. However, remember what
he said, and I'm just speculating on this, but what
he said this is a fact. He said, I don't
the NFL needs me. I don't need them, right, that
was his quote when he rejected performing in the super Bowl.
It's possible this is where he was being prophetic and

(42:02):
the NFL went to jay Z and said we do
need you, and they gave him a boatload of money
perhaps to be in this position that he's in. Secondly,
he could have handled the we're past kneeling statement better.
He could have easily said, look, I respect Colin and

(42:25):
Eric Reid and the guys that are still kneeling, but
we have to do more than that, which is totally true.
I agree with jay Z when he said they're they're
different levels to protesting, and the first level is getting
the attention of the people that you're protesting against and
of the general public. And that's what they was done

(42:47):
with the kneeling. And now, unless you're just gonna have
a violent revolt, which we're not, then the next day
is to talk with the powers that be, and jay
Z is taking it to that next stage age and
going into the NFL ownership level. And now that he's
running this other department to entertainment and social justice, he

(43:10):
is in position to speak truth to power. You have
to be in those halls, you have to be in
those rooms to try to get things done, and jay
Z is in position to do that. Now. I would
say to those who are calling jay Z a sellout,
first of all, air Grid alluded to it, jay Z
has done great things in terms of social justice, and

(43:32):
I want to say this to all the people and
let's just keep it real. Mainly Black people that are
saying Jay Z's a sellout or questioning it. Jay Z,
by his own admission, sold crack cocaine to mainly black
people for fourteen years. Who knows how many families and
individuals lives he destroyed selling crack And during that time,

(43:58):
none of these people calling him a sellout now said
he was a sellout even though he was destroying black families.
And now that jay Z has turned his life around,
has become one of the wealthiest African Americans legitimately in
the country, has started an initiative called the Reform Alliance

(44:20):
that has dedicated fifty million dollars to frightening criminal justice reform.
Now that he has and on that committee is Van
Jones is a CEO, and Van Jones gets good stuff done.
He's made a documentary as the executive producer called Free
Meek Mill that highlights how so many African Americans, particularly

(44:45):
young men, get caught up in the parole system, the
probation system unjustly and end up spending time in prison.
And now that he is in a position to use
some of the money and the muscle of the strongest
sports league in the world to help fight against social justice,

(45:08):
to call him a sellout, it's just ridiculous. You can't
what he's done, but it's ridiculous, it's not ridiculous. And
from Chris, jay Z sold out the players, sold out
calling players. He just said, let me tell you, you
made your point right. And jay Z has done a

(45:31):
lot of good stuff. That doesn't mean that he can't
err or that that in this case he blew it.
In this case, he blew it because he was used
and he took the bait to be a photo op
for those guys who have no interest in the black community.
I'm telling you they have zero interests, the NFL owners
in the black community. The only interests they have, Chris,

(45:54):
are things that they can make money off. They can
charge the military to stop and have heroes come in
and shamefully take money from the US military so that
war heroes can come and wave their hands. They have
the nerve to use breast cancer awareness. Do you know

(46:14):
that they make money off the pink stuff that they sell.
Do you know the merchandise Do you know that doesn't
all go to breast cancer awareness? Do you know that, Chris?
That's what No, it's not, because that's what they do
and what they did with jay Z and I'm with
Eric Green, I am what jay Z did was this

(46:35):
once about him? Remember when he turned down the NFL.
The Yeah, he turned them down because it was easy
to turn them down, Chris. They don't pay you to
for halftime for the halftime show, so when they weren't paying,
it was very easy. He didn't. He wasn't. There was
no honor there, what honor? There is no pay day

(46:55):
to do the Super Bowl And then when they come
along with a nice check and say hey, yeah, yeah,
and let's do a photo up with you and the
commissioner and all this other stuff, because he could be
doing the same work without money. No, No, I'm talking
about that if he wants to partner and they pay
money towards towards UH, towards social justice, and he takes

(47:18):
a non paying job for to help out with the
music or gradest I didn't have to be nine paying
because the entertainers don't get paid entertaining. But with the
work he's doing, why does it have to be No,
Why does him getting paid make it selling out? Because
that's usually how you buy somebody is you take a situation.

(47:39):
Usually how you get things done is you get money
behind you we can agree to disagree, and I mean
they didn't have money behind it, they got anything done.
I agree why black, Well, there's plenty of them christ
name name. When they started civil rights on there was
no nothing. The civil rights movement was funded when they

(47:59):
start the Black Panther Party was funded, but when they
started it there was no money. In time, yes, they
do build up and money is is added to the
pot for people who who believe in the same cause.
But taking money from quote unquote the same people who
just did the unthinkable. What they did to Colin Kaepernick

(48:20):
is unthinkable in sports no matter what people And for
jay Z to tell people that they shouldn't kneel anymore
and it's done, all right? We can we stop with
the cancer research? What's the end game? I don't know.
We've been doing it for twenty five years and we
haven't gotten the results we want? Should we stop? Should
we stop doing any money? Are you stop doing stuff?

(48:41):
Are you saying are you saying Rob that African American
people should not work with the NFL as long as
Colin Kaepernick doesn't have a job. I'm telling you that
you cannot trust them for what they did to Colin
Kaepernick and that there because of what they did. It's
hard to look at them honestly in the league full

(49:02):
of felons that allow guys to beat women and children
and drug you some victim vehicular homicide and all those
guys just no uh uh I just from the Patriots.
Gordon just got back in the league. Right. They got
room for everybody except for Colin Kaepernick. Come with you

(49:26):
answer my question. I should African Americans not work with
the NFL if until Colin Kaepernick's on the team, they should?
Would you rather it be one of the person with
no connection to the black community running the entertainment situation?
Care about? I don't care. Would you would you give

(49:51):
the ninety million dollars they gave to the players connection
not if it doesn't mean anything in the Chris, let
me hold on coalition has done. Let me say some
players coalition has been doing other than They haven't been kneeling,
but they have been in courtrooms fighting for legislation for

(50:13):
black people. They got a law passed in Florida so
some felons could start voting again. Chris, They've been given
two million dollars a piece to six nonprofits that are
fighting against social and racial injustice. They would not have
happened without that eighty nine million. Let me tell you,

(50:33):
with no money, with no money, okay, how the NFL
can change socially social situations in this country with no
money and you don't need any because they're that strong.
They went to the state of Arizona, Chris, and they
said to the people of Arizona, and they hurt them

(50:53):
in the pocketbook. You'll never get another super Bowl as
long as this league is alive. You'll never get another
super Bowl if you don't have them one Luther King Holiday, Chris,
no money, no commercials, nothing. Do you know how quickly
were turned around and they voted for it. The NFL
has so much power, that's what I'm talking about. Then

(51:15):
I agree with you. They can move mountains. I agree
with you. And that's why it's good to have somebody
with some social consciousness. And let me need jay Z.
African man need him. Who's at the table. Here's here's
another example of the power of these wealthy white billionaires.

(51:35):
Jay Z was fighting for five months to get Meek
Mill out of jail to no avail. Robert Kraft, the
Patriots owner, gets involved and two weeks later, Meek Mill
is out of jail. Now you got a person that
can sit there with the owners on an equal level
and tell them, at least tell them whether they do
it or not, tell them this needs to be turning.

(51:57):
This track record says he knows some of the stuff
that needs to happen. Chris, and I'm asking you an answer.
I think you're being naive. I think it isn't Meek
Mills like it wasn't he a partner with jay Z
and a friend, a personal friend. Yeah, he's he's signed now,
that's what he was signed before. But that's what I mean.
He interested in him. I mean he knew this guy personally.

(52:22):
My only point that means, I mean, I don't get
what that means. I'm just saying it's easy to do
that when you have a personal interest in somebody. Are
you saying African Americans should not partner with or work
with the NFL and to treat all of the none
no African same way? None? I wouldn't. I wouldn't would
I wouldn't take two cents from the NFL. And I

(52:44):
would not because he Let's keep it real, and you
and I have talked about this before Colin Kaepernick could
be in the league tomorrow. If the African American player
saying we are all kneeling until Kaepernick is back on
the teams, no doubt, they're not playing. We are not
playing another snap until Colin Kaepernick is back on the team.

(53:07):
But you don't have the focus only on jay Z. No,
but this is the focus on all of us, including
you and me, who continue to talk about the NFL,
all the fans who are continue to watch the NFL
and play fantasy football. And we're football jerseys. We do
want the store. We're all selling out. If that's the case, No,
I'm not. I'm not taking a check from the NFL.

(53:31):
It would affect your check. No, but that ain't If
that's not what I'm can't boycott. And I'm a sportswriter.
That's not what my job is. That's not what I do,
So you can't pay me in that way. Jay Z
has nothing to do with the NFL players. He's not
the one who's nailed down. He can't tell people it's over.
Oh get back, he's not. It's all done. That's people

(53:55):
I am reading. You get still rap from the street.
You're gonna tell everybody, it's over because you signed a
deal with the NFL. It says, it's selfish, it's self
you're jaz over. You know why you signed a deal
with them? No, that's what they need him the same,
that's what's so on. It's three guy, cannel one one

(54:18):
and I still will respected one guy. I'm not. I
started off a respected and he shouldn't talk against it,
but don't tell me about it. So why did he
say that before he signed a deal with the NFL
to me that two months ago? Why didn't he say that?
Id he say that you don't want to let nobody

(54:38):
else talk? Why didn't he say it two months ago
before he had a deal that that that you don't
need to deal kneel only anymore. It's all over as
soon as he gets as because he got a check.
Now it's over. Does he need a check? Everybody need
everybody needs money? Everybody really, jay V? Don't need money.

(55:00):
Anybody got problems gundred billion dollars or million dollars that
you need money? Everybody needs ever you got problems? All right?
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(56:33):
Ge all right, let's get it started here with Blake
in New Mexico. What's upright, hear me? Yeah, listen to
the podcast every day. It's my second time calling, I believe.
But man, I wanted to chime man, I really just
want to specifically talk about this. But I think the
deal was made with rock Nation correct and not jay Z.

(56:55):
Rock Nation employeed a lot of people of color, So
what's the big deal about. Secondly, the movement wasn't just
about Kaepernick. It was about you know, unarmed people getting shot.
So why is he making them about him? I feel
like he's you know, being exposed as a as a
a tipen seeking frog. Honestly, I totally disagree, and it's
about Kaepernick because we've never seen the NFL. They just

(57:19):
they just talked out talked to a forty year old
quarterback to come to the Eagles. They have gone and
put everybody in the league except for Kaepernick. And basically
the league has decided that they're going to punish how
dare you? How dare you speak out about something that
was going on in this country? And uh and and
they're gonna punish it for him, pull for him. That's

(57:39):
what he wanted. Yeah, I look, he's definitely been blackball
and one of the I support Colin Kaepernick, and I
felt like what he did was very courageous. And one
of the reasons I felt that way was because he
was a backup at the time, right, And he was right.
But my thing is he's smart and I'm sure he
had to count up the cost of what he did,

(58:02):
and when you do that type of thing, you have
to say, Okay, this could cost me my career. I'm
a backup. I'm not you know, Lebron James, I'm not
Cam Newton. I'm not somebody that can't replace. And you
have to understand that that could be a casualty of
you standing up. I'm not saying this right, when you
have a calling. Sometimes in life, Christian, you notice people
have callings and people have given up high paying jobs

(58:26):
to go help the poor. Right. I just said, this
is my calling. I was a corporate lawyer making two
hundred thousand dollars a year and now I'm at the
soup kitchen in downtown Detroit feeding people. Why Because it's
my calling, this is what I believe I'm here for here,
That's why people do that. Well, here's the good thing

(58:48):
about cap. The good thing about his situation is, look,
Nike's paying him millions and he got a settlement with
the league, so financially he will be fine. I would
like to hear more from him. And my opinion, Robb
is this, I don't think Caps set out to start
a movement. Nope. He he was just like, look me,

(59:09):
as an individual, I can't stand for the anthem right now.
And so he sat and then nelt and it became
something bigger than him and so but I agree though
that he wanted, you know, it brought the purpose hopefully.
I think his purpose was just individual. But we did
want to draw attention to the social injustice. And like

(59:31):
I said, in my view, now you got guys in
power positions that have the opportunity at least to put
some money into this social justice thing. All right, Sergio,
I got it. Sergio in Seattle, You're on the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Sergio. Hey guys, first
time callers, long time listeners, love the buddy, No hey man. Honestly,

(59:55):
as a minority, I stand with Kaepernick all the way,
but I don't unders then all the hate that jay
Z's catching with this deal he's signed. You know, at
the end of the day, you have to be on
that table to be able to make power moves and
have an opinion at the end of the day. And
I feel like with him being there is going to
help with some of that and justice going on with Kaepernick.

(01:00:15):
He might not ever be able to play, but he
can be probably sure that this hopefully doesn't happen to
another player standing for rights like he has been. But
I mean, other than that, let's talk about that power
move that Nfeld by signing with with you know, rock Nation.
They're they're getting a lot of attention you know, pulled
away from them and deflecting off to you know them

(01:00:38):
now or rock Nation as a whole, right, all the
hate there catching You make a good point that we
would be talking about social justice. The last several days
we've been we've been fighting about who's the sellout and
who is it and everybody that works Jay Z and

(01:00:58):
Eric Reed and Kaepernick and Malcolm Jenkins they want the
same thing. They're different ways to go about getting it right.
There is no one calling everybody that's not doing what
he's doing the sellout. But that's just he could I mean,
I hear you, But the same thing Jay Z telling
people when they when they're supposed to stop doing what
they wanted. It's not jay Z's fight. I mean, he

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can't do that. That was out of line, and that's
why people looked at and said, oh, that's interesting. Now
that you gotta che fat check in your pocket from
the NFL. Now it's time to stop. That's why it
rubbed people the wrong way. Hey, Chris, let's squeeze one
more in. Is that Nate not in Virginia Beach. You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hey, so

(01:01:40):
that's how y'all doing? Man? Hey, man, look, this is
the deal. I don't want to call jay Z a
sellout because I know he's had his own way of
living and growing up and seeing a lot. That's not
my issue. My issue is, and I think if you
step back and look at the whole thing, is the
NFL in itself has an issue with even apply the
Rooney rule to get minority coaches and positions of high authority.

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And you need to tell me that all the owners
can get in the room in less than two weeks,
and how an ask an American man for a position.
Let me take that back. Two positions that aren't clearly
defined to do something and somehow another entertainment for the
Super Bowl has something to do with social conscious and
you're gonna get this. Got two jobs. I couldn't apply
for a job as a custodian. And then they also say,

(01:02:27):
by the way, man, we're goldn't make you an executive assistant. Also,
it just doesn't look right, it doesn't sound right, and
it doesn't feel right. Let's be honest about that. I
agree with you. It doesn't feel right. That was my
initial response. It just doesn't feel right to me. Yeah,
I just don't understand. I'm just And I asked you
this question, Rob, like, are we saying an African Americans

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shouldn't be able to work with the NFL? Ben til
Kaepernick has a job that that we're not in position
to do that, Chris, I will tell you that. I
will tell you this if I would if I were
a player, and I'm not. I'm just this is hypothetical.
I could say it because I'm not right, but I
would be down on a knee with Kaepernick in support

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of him. I would be what he's what he's saying
and what he was trying to bring your attention to
to me was important at that time, and and and
Skip and Shannon, they've they've done it and talked about
it and and were really good at it. Basically, unarmed
black men being shot by white police officers. Don't think
anybody disagrees that that's that's bigger. That's big enough football game.

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But there's ways to fight it. You gotta get legislation passed,
you gotta get talk to people in power. You can't.
Just kneeling is a part of it. But there's more
than that too. I've never seen uh my, my majority
just turn over. Be sure to catch live editions of
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(01:03:57):
at seven pm Eastern, four pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeart Radio app. All right, it's the
Eye Couple of Chris Brussar, Rob Parker, and we are
bringing back NFL Network reporters. Steve. Why is you want
to get his perspective on so many things, so we
do have some good time to spend with him. Steve,
you were speaking before we lost you on the phone.

(01:04:18):
What's your take on the jay Z situation with the league. Yeah, guys,
it's so multilayered, but I mean, I guess that's the
short version of it. If I'm kind of waiting to
see what jay Z's gonna do. I mean, I think optically,
for a lot of folks, it just looked problematic that
here's a guy who was criticizing the League and jay
Z a couple of years ago for teams not hiring

(01:04:42):
Colin Kaepernick seemingly blackballing him all of a sudden signing
this deal and everything is all good and happy with
the League and jay Z and Rock Nation. But you know,
I'm not gonna sit up. I'm not gonna sit up
in every tower and say jay Z is a sellout
or something like that, because I don't know what he's
got going on. So I'm gonna sit back and see.

(01:05:03):
I think there's a lot of Tommy cultural sniper fire
that's going on that's not healthy. And I get I
get every perspective out there, but I'm just gonna sit
back and wait and see if something positive comes out
of this before I really draw some conclusions, because i mean, emotionally,
it's it's one of those things guys You're like, wow,

(01:05:23):
this this seems like an awkward marriage, but at the
same time, it could end up being something that's very,
very productive. But Steve, it's also a case of jay
Z telling people this is this is the part that
a lot of people have a problem with. He's going
to tell people a kneel and is over after he
took a check from the NFL. It just it just
doesn't feel right. Yeah, no, I mean it doesn't feel right.

(01:05:47):
That's something optically, it's it's a bad look. But if
all of a sudden, look the one thing you know
that when you get to when people have used their
influence and their celebrity, a lot of positive change just
come out of it. Okay, let's look at what some
NFL players have done. Law New England Patriots went to
the Massachusetts state legislature and by using their celebrity, they

(01:06:08):
got the juvenile age for being detained in the justice
system from eight to thirteen. Okay, lawmakers were sitting on
this forever, even though an eight year old we don't
know if this child's got a d D or some
type of learning disorder, behavioral disorder that with proper treatment,
could live a normal life, but he was being put
in the juvenile the attention system early because they thought

(01:06:31):
he was a bad kid. But they used their celebrity
to get a law change, even as ridiculous as it founds.
Kim Kardashian used her celebrity to help maybe get some
things change in the justice system, to get some people
who are wrongly in prison out. So that's saying maybe
jay Z can use his celebrity to do some positive stuff.
Because again, on the surface, to say this as strange bedfellows,

(01:06:55):
you know, I think it's an understatement. It's a very
kind of optically looking strange marriage. When he saw how
hard jay Z fought against the league because of the
Kaepernick stuff, and now he's joining forces with them. But again, maybe,
you know, maybe there's something we're just not seeing on
the surface that comes to play in fruition, which is
why I'm just gonna wait and see if there's something

(01:07:18):
deeper to this. Now. I think that's a great point.
You have to be in the in the room to
speak truth to power to get them to move. So
I think he's we'll see, Like you said, let's wait
and see what he does. I still disagree. I don't
want to get into the whole thing and eat up
all of his time. My only point, Steve, is the
NFL got the state of Arizona to have the modern
Luther King holiday change. And all they did was say

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you'll never get another Super Bowl, and all of a
sudden that got changed. The NFL is a powerful entity
that can get things done if it wants to. If
it really wanted to do some stuff with social justice,
they don't need jay Z. And that's just how I feel.
I mean, and you look, I want let's talk about it.
I mean, you're absolutely right, you're absolutely right. But maybe

(01:08:00):
Jay came to them. I don't know who who initiated this.
Maybe Jay came to them and said, let's form a
mega partnership to to really get things going here. I
don't know how any of this started. But granted the
league could do some things, but you get jay Z,
who's an icon to a lot of black and brown people,
which Roger Goodell is not, and maybe you can get

(01:08:24):
some other change done. I don't want to just draw
such a straight line by saying the NFL and good
things done if it wanted to. The NFL isn't necessarily
the one who got certain laws changed or who got
certain things changed. So maybe jay Z can help do
that with his status and celebrity let's let's give it
a chance and see it's the eye. Couple were joined

(01:08:45):
by NFL Network reporters Steve Weiss. I liked what you said, Steve,
about a lot of cultural I don't know the words
you used. Cultural cultuper fire, Yeah, cultural sniper fire. I mean, look,
for the last week now, instead of talking and focusing
on social justice, we've been focusing on who is and
who isn't a sellout. And they're different ways to fight

(01:09:09):
the same battle. We need the people that are kneeling
down that bring attention to it symbolically, but we also
need people who can fight legisa get legislation. As you
just mentioned. I believe that was the mccority brothers. Correct,
there were mccority brothers. Uh slater um, you know. And yeah,

(01:09:29):
that plays coalition. Everybody's sitting there air greens at the day.
What's the Player Players coalition done with the eighty nine
million you just mentioned one of the things they've done.
Remember they also helped get that law in Florida pass
where some felons now could get the right to vote again, Steve.
They also have donated twelve million dollars to six different

(01:09:50):
non problems. Let me finish rod who are fighting against
social and racial injustice, so we don't have to be
sitting here, you know, throw in blows and playing the
dozens against each other. You can respect a different man's
hustle as long as they're trying to get the right
thing accomplished. But you can also criticize if you don't

(01:10:11):
believe that that's the way to go about it. There's
nothing wrong with that. And Steve, my last point is
the NFL's into make it money. That's why there's breast
cancer awareness where they don't even give one hundred percent
of all the pink stuff that's sold. They make money
off of that. And they also make money off of
veterans coming out and waving. They charge the Military Service

(01:10:33):
millions of dollars for us to honor veterans. They're into
make it money, and then they can't make money off
black people and the black people's plight. That's why I
don't I don't believe the NFL's hearts in the right place. Hey,
I mean that's I mean, that's your opinion, you know.
I honestly, they've they've done some things to make you

(01:10:55):
believe that. I mean, they've done some things to make
you feel that's the whole capital it gets you. But
you know, I also know there are some people who
work for this league, including myself, who are doing a
lot of things, even if it's not financially, to try
to make things better for black and brown people and
people who have been ostracized. That's what I'm saying. Like,

(01:11:17):
are we saying that we're criticizing Jay Z for working
with the NFL. Are we saying no African Americans should
work with the NFL until Kaepernick gets a job? You
mean the same league that you have to have a
rule interview black people because they wouldn't they wouldn't hire
black people. Not only would they want not hire black people,
they wouldn't interview black people. I mean, Blague, NFL guys,

(01:11:42):
we can take that to every industry, right, come on,
I mean, really, Rob, I'm just saying that's the same league.
About the difference. The difference stuff how Major League Baseball
is not supporting young African American players because they is
cheaper to go get them in the Dominican rep There's
no doubt about it. But I'm saying, but I'm thinking
about about every inside were talking about a league that's

(01:12:04):
seventy five percent black, that wouldn't hire its own own
workforce for bigger jobs. That's what I'm talking about. It's
on the National Hockey League, right, But that's dealing. That's
life in America, is it not. I'm just saying the
NFL's history is the NFL is the only racist, and

(01:12:24):
say that there's plenty Steve we just we just gave
from the NABJ conference. We just gave him and a
whole lot of black journalists. They're looking for jobs. That's
that's right. If we can look at our own industry
right now and and kind of say the same thing.
And I wish there was a Rooney rule in our

(01:12:45):
industry because it would not be as lopsighted as it is,
no doubt, no doubt, Steve we I wanted to get
to Garoppolo, Antonio Brown, Ezekiel Elliott, but we don't. We're
not gonna have a chance. But great stuff, man, we'll
get you on again in a few Yes, we appreciate. Yep.

(01:13:06):
We we bumped into Steve rob at a NABJ party
down in Miami. Absolutely great. He's one of our favorites,
both of them. Well, he and he used to cover
the NBA before the NFL and did a great job
covering the heat and uh yeah, he's a great reporter,
so great to get him to weigh in. Um I
was saying, I mentioned Garoppolo. He's been looking horrible, horrible,

(01:13:31):
and you know what this I'm not gonna call it yet,
but it's I'm wondering, is this a Ryan Fitzpatrick type
situation where as long as there was no pressure on you,
everything's fine. But now that people are expecting you to
do something, You got the huge contract. What is he
one for six zero yards and a pick to him

(01:13:53):
and a pick and and and lucky he doesn't have
another pick. He threw five straight straight interceptions and actice
the other day. Ros term. I mean this is this
is something to watch because he's looked great in his
regular season games he's played. It's a small sample side
that's the problem with it. Yeah yeah, but uh yeah,

(01:14:16):
so good, good talk man. We will get more into
the jay Z NFL stuff in the next hour. We
also will have plenty of other stuff to talk about.
Zeke Elliott Mike Hill Fox Sports one host. His new
show hyper Drive is come in August twenty first, on Netflix.

(01:14:37):
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(01:15:18):
new show, hyper Drive, coming out August twenty one on Netflix,
and we'll get into some of the jay Z NFL
stuff with Mike. But we want to get back on
the field. And there's some news Rob about Antonio Brown.
This helmet thing is not over now. He was at
practice today. Let me let me just take people back GM.
Mike Mayock offered what many are calling and ultimatum yesterday

(01:15:42):
by saying they need to find out whether or not
a B is all in or all out over the
helmet issue. Today, Antonio Brown shows up at practice and now,
just an hour or two ago, or maybe an hour ago,
news broke that he is five a new grievance against
the NFL in an attempt to wear the helmet he wants.

(01:16:05):
I believe Rob he's going to. They have a rule
that if the helmet is ten years older or more,
you can't play in it. So he wants to get
a newer version of the helmet he wants to wear,
and so he's filing a grievance with the league to
try to get in that helmet. His agent, Drew Rosenhouse,
has said that not only has Antonio Brown played all

(01:16:27):
of his NFL career in the same helmet, but he
played peewee in high school and college football in the
same helmet. So he's very attached to this helmet. And look,
if the helmet I've been critical of a B. I
think it's kind of, you know, ridiculous, But if the

(01:16:49):
helmet is approved, then hey, let him play. I just
want to get him out on the football field. I'm
sure that's how the Oakland Raiders feeling, and maybe that's
how he feels too. But even though he's gone through
all this, if the helmet can be approved, I'm fine
with it, even though I think it's it's kind of
out of the ordinary, to say the least. Yeah, I

(01:17:09):
don't have a problem that there. There's obviously a system
that allows him to appeal. So if that otherwise, there's
no vehicle for that, right, there would be no vehicle
for him to be able to appeal it. And I
think he thought he had found a new helmet that
was similar and he was trying to get it approved
by the league. So I think that's why he's taking
a second step, because at first he came out with

(01:17:32):
a statement when he lost originally the appeal, saying he
was ready to move on. And then he said he
found the helmet that he thought was comparable or like
his helmet, a newer version of it, and he was
trying to work to get the league to approve it.
My thing is, as he waits on his appeal, he
can be at practice. No, but but he wasn't at

(01:17:55):
practice yesterday though I'm saying, yeah, but there there's no
reason he shouldn't be at practice even if he's still
waiting on the helmet ruling and can. If his feet
are fine, which I believe they are the latest, then
he should be practicing. Put on a different helmet for

(01:18:17):
practice in hopes that your regular helmet will be something
you're able to wear during the game. I just think
he needs to be practicing and playing with the team. Yeah, well,
I mean today showed up, so let's just go forward.
Now not being at practice isn't an issue, and now
it's just about a matter of fact. I just I
just think he's one of those guys you got to

(01:18:38):
get on the field. He needs to get back on
the field and have people remember what a great football
player he is. And I think that's that's will serve.
And ab Antonio has be turned into just the lightning rod.
It doesn't matter what people were making a big deal
about the you know about his feed and all. He
should have done this and he should have done that.

(01:18:58):
It's always it doesn't matter out of what happens, he's
just that guy. Now he's public enemy number one. He's
turned himself into that. I'm just saying, but it doesn't matter.
Like the appeal thing people made a big deal about, Chris,
you have a right to an appeal. I don't know.
Nobody's saying he can't appeal, but you I'm also saying
you can still be with your team at practice. I
get people play out. That's not what they were credit.

(01:19:20):
They were just critical that he that he even was
going through. And I'm just like what they were critical
because he wasn't at practice yesterday. No, but the practice
thing that had more to do about his feet. That
was why he wasn't at practice. He couldn't even yesterday. No,
I'm talking about when that helmet thing a week ago
when you were on vacation. But but more has happened.
I mean maybe, but I'm talking about the original again

(01:19:42):
what he said today, I'm talking about last week. The
Raiders weren't saying that because they knew he had defeat
is I think they were also trying to hide it.
It seems like, you know, there were reports, there were
reports that it was the helmet thing all along. Now
I'm looking at the feeding that I saw and they
didn't look like he could play football. Well he but

(01:20:04):
he practiced twice with the feet. Yeah, he practiced twice
and at training camp. And so I'm not saying they
weren't bad, but the last thing was he was clear
to practice. That was the last bit of news regarding
his feet. So I do think now it is the helmet.

(01:20:24):
And again if he if it's if, it's like, but
it's like, it's just people just picking on him. I
just that's your opinion. I disagree because of what happened
in Pittsburgh with not being there for that critical game
because of that was nothing to do with his fault, No,
but because of that, now everything he does is just

(01:20:46):
a big deal. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying
that he's perfect or he hasn't done anything wrong, but
he's a story because of that, He's just a story
down and no matter what he could give money to
uh A b right now, could could be on a
raft in the water with the Pope, and the pope's

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cap blows off into the water and AB walks across
the water and grabs the pope's cap and puts it
back on his head, and the headlines tomorrow would be
AB can't swim. That's just where he is. He's that
guy now, all right. On that note, I'm just saying,

(01:21:26):
let's switch to Ezekiel Elliott. UH what he is upset
rob that Jerry Jones made a joke. Do we have
audio of it, rob Gie? Yeah, let's hear Jerry Jones. Uh.
And the joke that got Ezekiel Elliott upsets negotiating with Zeke?

(01:21:48):
Could is he laughing it? Is he laughing at his
playoff record the last twenty five years? Is that what
he's laughing about his playoff ruck at the last twenty
five years? That's funny. That is funny. And the joke

(01:22:08):
was funny too. It was funny not to Ezekiel Elliot
and I get I do think Jerry was making a joke.
This is a guy that he has stuck behind through
all his you know, he tried to at the commissioner, right,
so he's been with Zeke, and I think that's probably

(01:22:29):
one reason he felt that he could make that type
of joke. Uh. And I'm sure he's also a bit bothered.
There's no doubt, right, he's upset about this. Zeke's got
two years left on his deal. That's the last thing
they expected from him was a holdout. But Zeke is upset,
and I get it. Even though we had seth joyning on.
He said he's being overly sensitive. And maybe he is,

(01:22:53):
but this is money and that's what he's concerned about.
And I know he's you know, every it looks like
he's very confident and cock sure and what he's doing.
But anytime you're sitting out, anytime you're losing money by
the day. Now, obviously his new contract will take care
of that, but you're losing money by the day and

(01:23:15):
you don't have a new deal yet, you're going to
be a bit worried. And I think that's why he
is upset about Jerry's joke. I totally agree. And Chris,
you you mentioned it. Guys can put on you always
your confident. You're a great player, you've achieved things in
just three years in the NFL. But until it's done,
it's not done, and you don't know what your future holds.

(01:23:38):
You don't know if if this other guy Pollard comes
out and rushes for three hundred yards in his opening
game and they never remember you. You don't know that.
You just don't. So there's always that until you can
get a deal and know where you're back in the
fold or whatever, and that people value you. It would
be the same thing if you were when you were
on vacation last week. We didn't mention you or mentioned

(01:24:00):
that you're on vacation and you happen to listen to
the show. I don't think you would be happy about that,
would you. No? Not if you were like if the
ratings were skyrocketing, right and you were like Chris who right? Hey, Rob,
the ratings weren't skyrocket without either say they were descending fast.

(01:24:25):
But no, we're did get an email corporate saying you
guys cannot take time off at the same time ever
again that I just did you really, Look, there's only
one odd couple that's it, and that is being proven
and thankful. All the people who are criticizing, I mean,
people are like mad at us. Just give us a

(01:24:46):
couple more days, right, Chris, a couple more days, and
then we'll be back into full effect for the next
four months. Just relax, yeah, okay, and people, you know, look,
this is the time when you take the vacation football,
you know, not in full swing. The NBA's out at Chris,
don't tell everybody we're off tomorrow, but we'll be back

(01:25:06):
Wednesday and Thursday, and then they're off again Friday. We
will be back in full of back you said it, Rob,
next week Monday. Starting Monday, we're all in yep, so
just bear with us that I couple heat will be
coming your way. But yeah, Ezekiel Elliott, Jerry Jones said it,

(01:25:29):
and I think this is what he's waiting for. I've
said it from day one. We'll see if I'm correct
on it, but I felt like he would take a
page out of what he did with him Mitt Smith,
and I don't blame him. You know you got three
bad teams to start the season with New York Giants washing,
the Redskins, Miami Dolphins. You think you got a running
back and a couple of running backs that can fill

(01:25:49):
in for Zeke. All the analytics the stats are telling
you number one, running backs are replaceable, and number two,
I think Ezekiel Ellie is the best running back in
the league. Better than Lei Yon Bell, who's great, better
than Todd Gurley who's great though maybe a bit damaged.
I think he's the best. However, there are those analytical stats,

(01:26:12):
Rob that say he's not one of the better red
zone running backs, right and so I'm sure the Cowboys
are looking at all of that and thinking we can
let's try it. Without Zeke, you know, And we're gonna
find out when that regular season starts if indeed he's
still out, the leverage is going to swing heavily one

(01:26:34):
way or the other, towards Zeke or towards the Cowboys,
and that's when this thing is gonna get done. No,
I agree. And ultimately it's just interesting, like if it
plays out to where the Cowboys get off to a
slow start and then don't win the division, you'll look
back and say, was that the right move? Or maybe
they win those games, go on and do all the

(01:26:55):
stuff that they were going to do and they miss
Zeek for a game or two and it still works out.
So we won't know right away until the season plays out,
but it will be interested, all right this you'll turn
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We will definitely be taking your calls. We haven't had

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a lot of calls today, Rob, but we're gonna give
a full bank to you guys. The weigh in, did
Jerry Jones cross the line when he made that joke
about Ezekiel Elliott even weigh in a little bit on
Antonio Brown. If you want as well, we will continue
the conversation with you. Next is The Eye Couple of
Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker week

(01:27:37):
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Let's get to the callers. All right, let's do it
Day Quad in Maryland. You're on The Odd Couple of
Fox Sports Radio. Dad, Hey, what's going on, fellas? What's happening?
Nothing much. I'm glad to hear both of y'all back together.
I understand it is, like, so I appreciate y'all getting

(01:28:20):
that well needed vacation time too. Oh yeah, it's gonna be.
We'll be in full of fact for a long time
coming up. When we started this show. A matter of fact,
our first anniversary is coming up next in September. Coming up,
we gotta do something for that. Yeah, we gotta do
something like a wing party somewhere. Of course, I definitely

(01:28:43):
feel like Jerry Jones crossed the line with that joke,
because I just feel like this is your star player
and this is an anchor that pushes your team. We
why are you making a joke about a serious thing
and you know this man just trying to get his
well deserved money. You know, I'm here though, I'm totally

(01:29:05):
with you. I get it. I think Jerry was trying
to be funny and cute. Now, when you're talking about
a man's livelihood, it's just not funny, Chris, It's just
not funny, no question. Hey, let's go, let's do Matt,
Matt in South Carolina, you're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Matt? Yeah? I think these
guys are just holding out because they don't want to

(01:29:26):
play in preseason. And I don't blame them because it's ridiculous.
Why ain't you gotta play four preseason games and not
getting any you know, real reps. I get the preseason thing,
but in Ezekiel Elliott's case, it's bigger than that. It
is about the running back and the CBA not working

(01:29:48):
for running backs because they have your rights and they
don't pay them. They stopped paying the running backs and
they were placing them. So I think Dak is saying,
can I can't play any better Chris than he did
the first three years? Do you know what I mean?
Like I want two Russian titles? We wanted division twice
and do you know what I mean? Matt and I
and he wants to get paid before he gets hurt

(01:30:11):
or before he gets broken down. Well that, unfortunately, that's
the game that it is. Um. I hate that for
the running backs because it was always a running backs
game in the day. Yeah, but it's changed. You know,
it's a passing game, so that's just not the case anymore.

(01:30:34):
But I appreciate the call, Matt, thank you so much.
Thanks for the support. It's the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio and uh, you know, I know Jerry's trying
to be cute and flipped to the media and like, hey,
that's a funny sound bite. Zeko like wow, uh did
you hear that? Funny? I made it made all over
Sports Center and all over the local news, and Jerry,

(01:30:57):
Jerry made it funny. But Rob j Share it with
Zeke could Rob G, where are you on this? You
know what? I actually I think I think Zeke's been
a little sensitive on this one. Okay, because if you
watch the full video, I know we don't really you

(01:31:19):
can't really hear it on the radio because you can't
see the context of it. But the whole thing was
done kind of tongue in cheek. And even after he
made that little joke and anyone started laughing, Jerry looks
right in the camera like he's looking into Zeke's soul,
and he said, Hey, you know, we want to let
you know we're having fun, but we're not having fun
at your expense. You just want to clear that up. Okay,
So he knew it and he should. Yeah, but that's
why he said it though, right, because he knew how

(01:31:42):
it could come across. Uh. And and really, Rob G,
if if it was just in jest, you shouldn't even
have to say that, do you understand what I'm saying? Like,
if you if I make a joke or whatever, I
shouldn't have to say that unless it cuts a little
deep to you, or you know, it could cut you
right kind of like, uh, what was that? Bob Myers?

(01:32:02):
He made that joke about Kevin Durant at the first championship.
Do you remember that? Go, that's the perfect example, right,
he knew that he had to say something because that
cut Kevin right right? Yeah, you know what I can
I can see where you're coming from with that, but
cut you. But you know, I still think that ezek
All has heard much worse, especially on social media and

(01:32:23):
about the and the things that the Cowboys and Jerry
Jones specifically have kind of stood up for him about.
I think he knows that Jerry is a big fan
of his and anything he says. I mean, he sing
Zeke Alli a supporter. We all know that. We know that.
But here's the other part. Just just hear me out
on this. When Jerry starts saying that, what do you
think other fans here Jerry right and go, yeah, well

(01:32:47):
Zeke cool, We don't do you know what I mean? Like,
if if teammates and the owner starts to act like
he's just any other clog and he's not that important,
you could turn fans against him. But do you really
think that that Cowboys fans are turning on Jerry Jones over? No? No, no,
I'm just I'm saying turning on Ezekiel that you don't

(01:33:09):
need him because he said, but I'm looking listen to
what Jerry said, you don't need a guy a Russian
champion and window super Bowl, right? Remember that? Yeah, I
remember him saying that. But it's like if you're if
they were gonna turn right behind if negotiate behind closed.
But if they were, if the fans were gonna turn
on Ezekiel Elliott, they would have done it a long

(01:33:29):
time ago. I don't think this is something that they
would turn on him about. I'm just saying, Jerry keeps
pushing the envelope and keeps doing it, so I hope not.
I hope you're right. Well, Rob, speaking of pushing the envelope,
did you hear about the NFL and the players supposedly
working towards cutting the preseason, which we all like from
four to three games, but then in turn adding an

(01:33:51):
extra playoff game. What do you think about that? Nope? No,
not even thinking. Okay, come on, you know why because
do we want to water it down? The half of
the league makes the play I just playoffs? Yes, you do?
You you know like with the NBA, right half the
league makes the playoffs. I'm not with that. I really don't.

(01:34:12):
I want you don't make the regular season meaningless. And
you notice in the NBA, rob G, you love the NBA,
but you could start watching in January and February, couldn't you? Well?
I started watching on Christmas Day, you know. Okay, but
the official start of the NBA seas. But that's six
weeks after officially that it regularly starts. All I'm saying

(01:34:35):
is you can't start letting everybody in. Don't make the
regular season. That's why that's why nobody watches college basketball
until the tournament. Right, Okay? What do you think about
that second wild card game? Then? In baseball? While I
like it only from the start, it's only one game
and only one wild card team can compete for the

(01:34:57):
World Series. Do you see what I'm saying? Like if
they made it and say we're gonna put four wildcard
teams and they could win the World Series, Now the
regular season doesn't mean as much to me. So there's
only one wildcard team that can make it. I don't
think that would be the case in the NFL, would it?
I don't know what their lineup? They would add an
extra wildcard team and then the first whoever the number

(01:35:19):
one overall seed, would get a buy. So, I mean,
I know you're not on board, but things like this way, Rob,
you and USC Chris finally might get the Detroit Lions
into the playoffs if we add an extra wildcard game.
What I was gonna say? Even with that, they could
have a playoff system where how many teams are the
thirty two, where thirty teams make the playoffs, and the

(01:35:40):
Lions still wouldn't make it. Nope, No, I'm sorry. I
know that's mean. The Lions have made to play, they
just can't win. No playoff wins in the Matt staff
for the era. How about that? Who's Matt Stafford? I
thought his name was Stat passed Stat Padford. You know
what I'm saying, it's been a decade, it's been a
day gade. Rob Gee, there we go. So you're already

(01:36:06):
you're already turning and just saying, no, you don't mind
cutting the preseason in favor of the playoff game. Well,
I mean, if you got to pick one, I would
think you'd rather have the playoff game, right, Yeah, I mean,
if that's my option, because I don't think you need
for play preseason games. I really do. I'm cool with
two and but I'm not I'm not trying to have
an eighteen game season, and I'm not trying to do

(01:36:28):
uh an extra playoff game if we don't have to
have it. What's wrong? What's wrong with the NFL playoffs
to where we have it? I'm just asking you, is
there any issue? There's nothing wrong, but the preseason doesn't
work and we can all agree on that. So if
we if we got to make the best of a
bad situation, I can think of worse ways then to
add an extra playoff game. Would you rather have the

(01:36:49):
eighteen game season? You know the difference between the playoff
game and preseason games, or or maybe uh the owners
the players don't get paid during the playoffs us money
straight into the Look get you robbed a lot? Do
you know that? Right? You know that that players don't
get paid in the playoffs. Well, maybe that when the

(01:37:10):
owners getting to split all that money with this impending
strike that's coming our way in about a year or so,
maybe they'll they'll work on that too. Be sure to
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(01:37:56):
August twenty first, that's this week or in Netflix, it's
our man, Mike Hill. Mike, what's happening, Mike? Chris, what's up? Bru?
What's up? Rob? What's happening? Fellers? We're good man, it's
great to have you on. Great to have you on.
And uh, Myra top on the show. Let's say that
that's right, that's right to tell us what is that

(01:38:17):
gonna be about? It's like I always say, it's a
mixture of the fans and inferiors meets America Ninja Warrior
where you got twenty eight drivers from around the world.
Man different ethnicities, of course, different genders or whatnot, using
their own cars on an obstacle course from hell. I
mean it is. We did it last year. Charlie stron

(01:38:39):
is an executive producer of it. Man. Netflix put a
lot of effort and a lot of money into it,
and it's gonna be remarkable. Man. So you got great
human interest stories. It's not just a car show, not
just a competition show man, it's a way of life.
You guys are really going to enjoy it. That's awesome, man,
that's awesome. Congratulations again. Um, we were talking Rob and
I about the old jay Z situation with the NFL.

(01:39:03):
What is your take on this situation? And you know
what I mean. Self always say I always usually agree
with my man, Rob Parker. I love him to death,
respect his personality and his attitude and his insight and
it takes. But I think Rob's got it all wrong.
I think we're looking at jay Z as being a sellout,
and I think it's far from being to sell out. Yes,

(01:39:24):
he is a businessman, he said this in his rhymes
many times. But we're not looking at the entire picture.
We're looking at a halftime show instead of the whole
picture of what jay Z has actually been able to do,
and that's get a seat, multiple seats at the table
inside the NFL. And more importantly, he's got the ear

(01:39:45):
of Roger Goodill and the decision makers inside the National
Football League. Now, I know there have been plenty of
people capt has come out and criticize Kenny Stills, Eric
reads all these guys and criticize and whatnot. But what
are we trying to get done here? And that's social
justice that's helped with the criminal reform measures or whatnot.
We're looking at the halftime show tell us, we're looking

(01:40:07):
at the entertainment portion of it. We're looking at the
money that jay Z's getting. We're looking at the change
he's getting as far as putting the change in his
pocket and not looking at the change that he can
affect inside that room. Man, what do we want from
the NFL? We want some kind of change, and he's
using that platform, he's using his voice in order to
be able to get that. And with his track record

(01:40:28):
in his background, I am going to give jay Z
the benefit of the doubts that he's going to go
in there and not just speak, but he's going to
have a voice that they're going to actually listen to
and some change is going to come about. And I
tell you, I totally disagree Mike kill and I respect you,
But in this case, the NFL showed me time and
time again. The only thing they're interested in is making money.

(01:40:51):
When they charge charge the US military money so that
war veterans can come out and wave at these big crowds.
They charge millions of dollars dollars when they do breast
cancer awareness, not even all the money when they sell
pink paraphernalia and cleats and jerseys and hats and all
that even goes to breast cancer awareness. They're about making money.

(01:41:12):
They're I don't believe for one second jay Z is
gonna come in some boardroom and they're all going to
listen to jay Z because he's some rapper. They used
jay Z and he took the bait because they wanted
a photo op to same way Donald Trump wanted a
photo wop with Kanye West. When when Donald Trump had
Kanye West and Steve Harvey and those people at the

(01:41:35):
White House. That's what I believe it is. Until now
he can prove me wrong. If jay Z can go
and get something done. He can prove me wrong, but
until then, I'm gonna be on the outside. And I
think that they used jay Z for a photo op
to get black people to say, oh, yeah, the NFL
is cool. Well they're cool with jay Z, that's cool.
They're not cool. What they did, what they did to

(01:41:57):
Colin Kaepernick was not cool and was not right. And
what's not just a league that allows people who abuse
women and children and drugs and all kinds of stuff,
second and third and four chances and and and they
blackly agree with everything that you're talking about. When it
comes to the background in the history of this league,

(01:42:18):
why should we believe that they're actually going to do
the right thing. I'm looking at jay Z and who
he is and what he stands for, and the things
that he's done in the past when it's come to league,
when it's come to treyvonn Martin, when it's comes to
bringing clean water to Africa, and the things that he
and his wife do together. Yes, I understand it's about
money and sometimes social reform you have to pay the

(01:42:39):
price for that when it comes to that, and he's
going to get his money, but also the impact and
the influence. This is one of the most influent you
men in society, not just in Black culture, but in society.
I don't think jay Z for one moment will allow
the NFL or any organization to use him as a
photo op with all the clout that he has built up,

(01:43:01):
not money wise, the clout he has built up. When
he comes to us and the trust, I have to
give him the benefit of the doubt. Remember back in
the day, I'm gonna bring up a guy, Magic Johnson.
When he came out here, of course Hi beal whatnot.
And President Bush, the first Bush, I believe, made him
a supposed person and the White House for HIV awareness

(01:43:21):
and whatnot. And then he realized that he was being
used as a problem. What did Magic do? Magic quit,
He got out of there, and he told on them.
I believe that jay Z, if he feels like he's
being used at some kind of photop, some kind of
prop he will not allow the NFL to do that,
and he will expose them for that. Give us, give
them a little time, That's all I'm asking. See, it's

(01:43:44):
the problem that we have, rob We are looking and
we're fighting for the same thing. Same thing goes back
to the sixties, Malcolm and Martin. We're fighting for the
same thing. We're just going out in two different ways.
How come we can't just come together sometime to try
and get somewhere where we need to go instead of
chair to each other down. What we're doing, Rob, what
we're doing, Chris right now is what we're doing is

(01:44:06):
we're basically showing that we're devoted and we're not coming together,
and we're talking more about the deal that jay Z
made instead of the issues that is hand the same
reason they have even not in the first place. Yeah,
I agree with you, Mike, you know, I mean, I'm
supportive of Colin Kaepernick, but I don't view jay Z
at all as a sellout. I think, look, when we're

(01:44:27):
trying to get what we want social justice, there's really
three options you have. Violent takeover is one that's not
gonna happen. Boycott is another. And Rob and I've talked
about it. If all the players in the league said
we're kneeling until Kaepernick's back on the team, or the
black players, even just the black players, and or they

(01:44:47):
said we're not playing until Kaepernick is back on the team,
he'd be on the team this week, but we don't
see and even fans, if black people in mass fans,
you know, players exactly. Whatever said, Look, we're not with this.
He's clearly being blackball. We're boycotting the NFL. He would
be back on the team. But since we're not doing

(01:45:09):
that and we're not gonna have a violent takeover, the
only other is way to do it is diplomacy. And
now that's what jay Z is doing. And that's what
he said. The kneeling is important, and I don't agree
with him saying we're past that, but look, really just stating,
he was just saying what's clear. There's only three players
still kneeling, and respect of them, respect of them he

(01:45:36):
could have worked with. He could have worded it differently.
They didn't stop because of jay Z. They stopped it
last season. They're not kneeling anymore other than those three, Mike.
And the next step is to get in the room
and and try to get something done. And that's I
think what jay Z's trying to do. Mike. I'm going
to give you one example, just one example, and then

(01:45:56):
you Okay, the NFL's a lot of power. They can't
get things changed because I saw them do it. I
saw them take the Super Bowl away from the state
of Arizona. I saw the commissioner tell the governor that
they would never get another Super Bowl as long as
they didn't have the Martin Luther King Holiday. And what happened, Mike,
What happened those people there, and that's in that state

(01:46:18):
that voted against it all of a sudden went to
the polls and voted for it. The NFL has a
lot of power if they really want to make social
change and do stuff. If they want to, their best
interest isn't in it. And that's why I don't believe
that their heart is going to be And it's despite
what the money they give to jay Z, despite what
they give to the players coalition, it's not what they deem.

(01:46:41):
Even when they talked about fans complaining about the protest,
they always eliminated the black fans and act like they
didn't even count. They used to say, our fans don't
want this. Really, there were plenty of black than we
came with it. Were you talking about that? You're talking
about impacting cities that the NFL didn't want to do

(01:47:01):
business with. How can the NFL work? I'm asking you
this question what can the NFL actually do when it
comes to criminal justice or reform or a police brutality
that will satisfy you enough to make you believe that
the NFL is doing enough. I mean, allowing Calf back in.
Is that going to solve a police brutality or police reform,

(01:47:21):
criminal justice reform? No, it was not, and I agree
with that. I also believe that CAP actually has a
better plans of getting back into the NFL now that
jay Z is a part of the NFL and partly
maybe become as part of the ownership a portion of
the NFL as well. Look, we weren't even talking about

(01:47:41):
Calf as much. Eric Read can complain all he wants to.
Kenny Stills can complain all he wants too, But you
know what they are complaining about a man doing business
with a league that they actually work for. They ain't
turn it down those checks, Robs. How come they ain't
turn it down the checks? You know what I mean?
Put his career on the line, He was the check.
He took the check. Yeah, but that but people get

(01:48:03):
paid all the time for wrongful termination. What he did.
He shouldn't he sul termination? What they did? What they
did what they did to him was bad. That's all
I'm gonna say. All Right, my great stuff, man, we
gotta run. You know how this business is. We gotta go.
We will get you back on it. Will definitely be
checking out your show hyper Drive. It starts August twenty

(01:48:23):
one on Netflix. On the Wait a minute, jay Z's
gonna pay for the commercial break so that we'll keep talking.
Oh never mind, peace, brother. It's the eye couple and
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(01:48:45):
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My sources say these two have been covering sports for
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put the big Jay journalist to the test. Its sources say,

(01:49:06):
that's right, it is. Sources say the cup of Fox
Sports Radio. We do this every single Monday, about an
hour late today because what's up? Move this along? I
got somewhere to be pretty soon. All right, all right,
Magic City Monday. He Hey, okay, singles on deck for
Rob Parker. Rob, do you think I'm going to night
or not. Yes, and I feel like I'm gonna get

(01:49:27):
a text picture of you in this side there. You
know it. You're not supposed to take pictures. But that's
besides the point. All right, guys, let's get right to it.
Rob Parker riding a one game winning streak, so you'll
get the first question. I was that I was gone,
of course. My sources say, Rob Parker, that an Italian
soccer team has said that they will remove any fan

(01:49:48):
who gets caught feeding the straight cats who roam their
stadium parking lot while tailgating. Robert, my source is good,
that's true. They got a real problem in Italy. That's true.
You sit on a throne, he said, Robs. Rob, I
gotta admit you said it with such confidence. Yes, I did.

(01:50:09):
I did that deliberately, just to see if you would
follow me. All Right, here we go, Story number two.
Rob Parker is still going up. First, My sources say
that a hockey stars Sidney Crosby admitted in a podcast
interview last week he's been wearing the same jockstrap for
the last seventeen years. Robert, my source is good. How gross,
But that's true. I'm gonna say false. Oh you know what, guys, Chris,

(01:50:36):
you notice they're very superstitious, you know about their equipment.
This is the A B thing. I'm serious like, it's
I'm comfortable with it. And you would say seventeen years
the same job. Terrible. Wow, sources say the arkable Fox
Sports Radio story Number three, Rob Parker. My sources say

(01:50:57):
that Mike Tyson admitted an interview last week that he
and his buddy smoke approximately forty thousand dollars worth of
weed every month. My source is good. That is true,
and it makes total sense when you think about Mike Tyson. Yes,
I'm gonna say false. That sounds excessive. Oh yeah, let's

(01:51:21):
stop it. Stop the bleeding, Bob, it's over. Stop it.
I think we got time for one fun one here,
just for just the bragging rights here. Rob Parker's gonna
win this one going away, But here we go. My
sources say that the Puerto Rican bowling team was stripped
over their PanAm Games gold medal for doping. Rob Parker.
My source is good, that's true. I can't believe it.

(01:51:43):
Why are they doping for bowling? That sounds crazy. I'm
gonna say false. It was a white Wash. Chris Bruissard,
you got time so much. No, we're done. Magic City.
Monday's next. It's a good thing. It's too bad you
don't have any theme music, Rob. You could play your

(01:52:06):
theme music if you had something. No, I got yours
minus the Magic City. It's getting hot in the here.
You know that that was my song. But it's all good. Well,
it's good to great to be back, man. And as
you said, we won't be here tomorrow, but we will
be back Wednesday and Thursday this week, and then after

(01:52:27):
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