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April 7, 2026 39 mins

Rob and Kelvin tell us if the Michigan Fab Five will be remembered more fondly than the Michigan ‘mercenaries’ who just won the national championship, explain why they love how petty the Los Angeles Dodgers are being, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob's nightly bets. Plus, former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam swings by to discuss the legacy of the Fab Five, the evolution of college sports as a whole, and much more!

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Yeah?

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I don't know whoever fake that ref might get hired
though the way the rest I see, we got shot
the Starbucks in the building.

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Uh we'll talk about that in this a little bit.
But yeah, you can see. For those of you on a.

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us a bunch of refreshers, which I was already up
on the refreshers beforehand. They're delicious, but now they've added
some caffeine. So yeah, shout the Starbucks taking care of
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for me. Well you know what, when is it not?

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Well?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
This was a special okay, all right, okay, just make
you know there are some special nights.

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You know what I'm saying.

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the good stuff, three bottle, not the dollar. Fancy, yeah,
fancy last night.

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Speaker 4 (07:04):
There was a college basketball championship decided last night.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yes, there was the Michigan Wolverine.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
Probably an exclamation point on the most dominant college basketball
seasons is nineteen ninety seven. They cut down the nets
yesterday in a big win over Yukon. They win going
away there at the end, and of course we mentioned
yesterday a big talking point coming into the game is
that Michigan is loaded with transfers. Four of their five well,
all five of the Sliders are transfers before them, were

(07:30):
transferred from this past cycle.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
So all the new.

Speaker 7 (07:34):
Players and they're keenly aware of the narrative around them.
Take a listen to Yaxel Lendenberg after the game.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
When people talk about this Michigan team, this Michigan championship team, what.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Will they say about you guys? How will you be remembered?
And then they might still be calling those mercenaries.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
And we're the hardest player team in national basketball. We're
the best team to college basketball and we want to
be one of the greats ever.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, I mean, they absolutely prove that they are the
best team in college basketball this year. They are the
best team, uh this season and one of you know,
for them, they're gonna be champions forever. If somebody like
me who grew up in that Aubrey, it was awesome
to see, Uh, they.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Kind of have the same field though for that exercise. Well, hey,
I'm a little older, so you know when you're.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I'm twelve, thirteen to five five, and it still was
a little different. But that's why I'm getting to So
that's the difference. They were brought in as mercenaries. Hey,
there's reports that london Berg was paid somewhere between seven
and nine million dollars when he turned down to go
to Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Dang seven to nine million dollars out. Let me tell
you what I would be.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I would be a seven year senior if I can
mess around and make that kind of money and stick
around and go to another school. But it is amazing
feeling for them, it's amazing for the school. It's amazing
for people who love Michigan. But when we're having this
conversation of kind of what we'll more enduring more along
last and that's where we talk about the Fab Five.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And it's just for a couple of reasons.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Number One, the Fab five had a connection to the
state of Michigan. Half of their starting lineup was for Michigan.
Chris Webber. You had Jalen Rose down the road in Chicago,
was Juan Howard, a couple other you know, you had
Texas in there as well. That was a huge thing, right,
You got the best player in all the high school
Chris Webber comes, stays home and goes to Michigan. So
that made it a big deal as well as one

(09:26):
of the best players in all the country.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
In Jalen Rose. You know this because you.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Interviewed him, hung around on Perry Watson was a high
school at Southwestern. He was a big time high school
coach who brought they brought to Michigan. So there's a
lot of connection to the local, to city to Detroit.
And then also you grew with the Fab Five, right
they were freshmen, they were the Fabulous five, these Fab
five freshmen, and then the next year they're all sophomores.
They go to a championship the first year, they go

(09:51):
to a championship the second year, and they lose the
first year, to get beat down by Duke, and then
they bounced back the next year get a championship again.
You went along with that ride. You said, what could
they be next year? Let's see how they'll be next
to men. They're gonna go through the bumps and bruises,
they're gonna grow, they're gonna get better. And they did
to the tune to get into it again. They lost again,
but you did that ride with them. Chris Weberlee just
still got four of them that stick around, so you

(10:13):
felt them. Not of course, the cultural stuff bringing hip
hop to a whole different level with it. The baggy shorts,
the black shoes, the black socks, the bald heads, the
way they were themselves, the way they you know, it
brought up cultural conversations because people were some people calling
them hoodlums and thugs. Other people totally understand and appreciate
these are just some young black kids in America having
a great time, some of the best years of their life.

(10:34):
So those things will make you remember them and make
them more memorable than this team. This team has nothing
to be shamed about. This is the way the current
state is. As Dusty May said, this is these are
the rules, this is the way the game is played.
They played it to the best of anybody in the country,
but it won't be as memorable. And that's why it
almost felt like they exercised the demons for the Fab Five,

(10:56):
for the Trey Burke team in twenty thirteen, and that
twenty eighteen team your beer.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
I don't think they exercised anything for the Fab five,
because that's a mythical in your mind. You're still romanticizing
about that about that era. If you want to be honest,
it's the most disappointing era in Michigan.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Basketball. When you really think about it.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
A that they did have two cracks at it, right,
they did not win either one with those talented players,
three who had significant careers in the NBA. Number two,
they didn't even win a Big Ten title. Nothing about
them was winning, which is the sad part. And I
think people still romanticize about everything else in the friend stuff,

(11:37):
which is fine, and I get that at that point,
but when you look back at it, it is about winning.
Like they could have cemented themselves really as something that
was special because even like UNLV, they got it done.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You know, they were able to win a championship.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
So you could say whatever you want about Tarkanian and
what went on there, but they did win, you know
what I mean. And I think that's the part about Michigan.
And people love to romanticize about the Fab five and
all the other stuff, but when you really think about it,
they leave you hollow, They leave you missing something. Yeah,

(12:12):
it's cool to get the band back together, but they
never had a number one hit.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
They're not the Beatles. They're not. So that's where I disagree.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
No, I'm just telling I'm giving you, like I hear
your affection for them, but They're not the Beatles as
much as you want to make it and say, oh yeah,
well they did this and they did that. You know,
the Fab five is more like Milli Vanilli than they are.
No more, I would not I would not let that right.
You have a you have a home and a lover

(12:42):
shop in Detroit. I want you to be able to
go back to Michigan more.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
You don't stop it.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
The first of all, No, No, tob five is more
like Million than the Beatles. First of all, Million Vanilli.
They had albums and guess what got big number one hits.
But but then eventually they what happened? They got them taken,
just like the Fab five had their banners taken.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
You about to take these right now? You about to
take these? Listen to this now?

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Oh you hurt now now because because that's because alcohol.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Many teams pull alcohol of that guy.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
How many teams have won championships We don't even barely remember.
You don't remember nothing about them. Tell me something about
that the Chris Jenkins at a shot. You remember nothing
about To give me that Kansas Mario Chalmers hit a shot?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
What else about that team? It's about?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
You don't know Mario Chalmers, Chris Jenkins made massive shots.
But what I'm saying is you can, even in defeat,
there are a handful of times, or a handful of
people in life, or a handful of artists who have
changed the world even if they didn't win the top thing,
and they are that. They might not have won it,
but they absolutely changed culture, absolutely meant more, and absolutely.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Are the last and lasting Martin.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
If you're a sports fan what you're talking about, I
get it and it resonates with you. But if you're
a sports fan, there's something missing. That Fab five should
have been something for the Ages. So there's always this
WinCE about, well they had to take the bat because
your people are still talking about they should put the
banners back. The banners aren't even up like this is

(14:14):
supposedly this team and the memory that it has of
what they were able to accomplish, But even the banners
are not there's a there's a tarnished there. They had
the rift between them, There's all kinds of other stuff there.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Look, if you're reading it from a technicality standpoint, yes,
no one else agrees with that. So reason why they
were just on a March Madness telecast for the Final
four because of how name another group that did that.
Name all the champions that had a Final four preview,
not a quick interview, Hey we're here with you.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
On the on the court side, they had their own telegram.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
But that's but a lot of a lot of that
has to do with what I just told you is
a that that to me is a bigger indictment of
the Fab five because they had three big star stars
who went to the NBA Okay off the same squad,
so that's why they get it. And three and two
of them are we're on television and do and did

(15:08):
big things on television. So they already had that personality right, Like,
like their profile was high because of Jalen Rows and
Chris Webber. Chris Webber is a Hall of Famer and
the Basketball Hall of Fame. There's all these accolades, everything,
except when you hold the bag, there's a hole at
the bottom and there's nothing in it.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
That's what I'm saying. There's absolutely a bunch of stuff.
And that's what I keep trying to tell you is
you can absolutely have people who love you, who adore you,
and you know them and you meant more than just
a championship you want to win, and I'm sure they
go to bed at night still, man. But the idea
that there's a hole in the bag, there's a big hole,
I don't agree with that. They didn't get the bag.

(15:46):
It's got a hole of it.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
They shouldn't have.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
They should have won one of those without a doubt.
But but again to the to the whole point, I
think that's why they're long lasting. All that they what
they meant, what they what they symbolized, and what they
brought to the bag. College basketball as a hole, and
really the NBA and really pop culture in America as
a whole.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
It was beyond. That's when you know it's big. It's
beyond just college basket eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Eight seven, seven, nine nine, six sixty three, sixty nine.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Who will be remembered more?

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Finally, the Michigan Mission Mercenaries who won a title or
the Fab Five who did not plush? Are they Billy
Millie Vanilli or the Beatles? Closer to which one of they?

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Closer to there you go, No streams, nobody, ain't no
guns and roses up in here, nothing.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
No one of the other.

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Check it out. Some people, you know, they have a
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They really do hit the spot in the afternoon, especially
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That's right. We've been drinking them today. You see.

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Speaker 2 (19:59):
Mercenary.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
These champions who got it done blew everybody out along
the way, except for last Night or the Fab five
or maybe some other team more memorable when it comes
to Michigan eight seven seven ninety nine on.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Fox Joseph in Houston. You're on the couple of Fox Sportuadio.
What's up, Joseph?

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Hey, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Rob doing great?

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Hey man?

Speaker 8 (20:22):
How are you gonna call them mercenaries?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Man?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
When it when it was a.

Speaker 9 (20:25):
Freshman one of done? Everybody didn't like it. But that's
the less say win. Now basketball has changing their football
n Il. They're getting paid. They came in, they wanted,
they did the right way.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Hey you go Blue day, But they call themselves mercenaries.
They know what they are. Yeah, he referenced it lunnon
bird reference. They did call a million dollars right, It's okay,
I'm not he did.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
It's okay.

Speaker 9 (20:48):
They all getting paid, but it should be a Michigan
celebration to day.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Rob, you got a hole.

Speaker 9 (20:53):
She got a barbershop trying to tell.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Them, I'm good. I know, I know you got three.
I know, I know you've got a boot that man,
I'm back in town. O my god, do you want
to mean Eric in Austin, Texas. You're on the couple
of Fox Sports. What's up, Kelvin?

Speaker 5 (21:15):
How you guys doing?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
What's up? Buddy?

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Hey? First of all, Kelvin got blue all day.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
You already know with the chances. Yes to me, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Now you go, You're good. You're gonna hail to the victors. Rob.

Speaker 10 (21:30):
I hear your point about the mercenaries. I do, but
I gotta push back on the notion that like the
Fast Five aren't remembered or aren't immortalized in our eyes.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Listen, they transcending.

Speaker 10 (21:42):
College basketball like that team that era. Yeah, they didn't
win at all, but they transcend anyway.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
They didn't win anything.

Speaker 10 (21:53):
It's no hold on, wait, wait, hold on.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Wait, let me say this to you.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yes, okay, all the all the indoor dressing, but at
the end of the day, the bag had a hole
in it.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's all I'm saying. We did it pen size ho.

Speaker 10 (22:08):
Rob, So Rob, Rob, Can I do Alan iverson his
back a hole in it.

Speaker 11 (22:13):
Yeah, you're supposed to Charn Barkley, but we still remember
these guys.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
And nobody's saying. Nobody's saying that you don't remember them all.
I'm saying that they did it.

Speaker 11 (22:21):
You said you said the fast I just said that
the Beatles, the Beatles from they're not They're closer to
Millie More.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
But you got one.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
That's no addition.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
The Fab five new edition. I appreciate it. The Fab
five a new edition. Joasyo.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, late Leah.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
How about and talk to me Allen in Indianapolis. You're
in the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Allan?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
How are you?

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Hey? What's going on?

Speaker 8 (22:54):
Fello's Thanks for having.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Me on always my man, appreciate you.

Speaker 8 (22:58):
I'm gonna tell you who the Fab five is. Let's
hear me out the Fab five.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
There.

Speaker 8 (23:02):
Run DMC, Run DMC never won a Grammy. They Run
DMC never won an American Music Award. But Run DMC
changed hip hop. Okay, run DMC took it from just
the streets to the suburbs.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
But you get my point, Like, you can't beat the Beatles.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
The Beatles had number one songs, the Beatles, you know,
and they had all that. Don't get me wrong. They
changed music in America. They did when they came from Britain,
they did.

Speaker 9 (23:28):
They did.

Speaker 8 (23:29):
Yeah, but what a run DMC do?

Speaker 5 (23:31):
How do I get that?

Speaker 4 (23:35):
I guess I guess it's better. I guess you just
don't want to hear the Milli Vanilli right, because that's
kind of.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I had one of them on my show.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
Yeah, they still have those ugly dress disrespect.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Don't they respect my man like that out here?

Speaker 5 (23:48):
You know?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
He still dreaded up in the street. Sorry were the
ray or?

Speaker 8 (23:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Did they get.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
With you?

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Salam?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
On the way right now, I'm Backbrie's gonna get you updated.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
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Speaker 1 (24:15):
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Speaker 5 (24:27):
What up?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Man?

Speaker 5 (24:29):
What's up? Brothers? How y'all doing? Man?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
We're doing great, man, let's trash talking Tuesday. Uh you
you were knee deep in the sports then and and
the you know, just the culture.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
What was Fab five like for you?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Rob said they got a hole in the back because
they didn't win that and he said they were Milli Vanilly.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I said, they're closer to Milli Vanilli than they Onna Beatle.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I said, there at least new edition. Come on, stop it,
this new edition.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
No, it looks five changed everything in terms of the
culture for us in basketball, right, Remember, the standard of
college basketball was built on the Hoosers, right, Indiana, right,
That team was the standard. So that came from you know,
middle of America, the mid you know, the Midwest, whatever

(25:17):
that is, and that was the gold standard. And then
you had teams like Duke and and those were the standards.
They weren't represented by us. And then when Fab five
came along at that time with the long Shorts, the
Black Sox, the Hirachis, right, like that spoke directly to

(25:37):
the culture, similar to how the Fresh Prince of bel
Are spoke to us on the on TV. Wise, right,
so we would watch, we would tune into the first President,
see what Jordan's he had on and all that. We
would watch them to see kids that looked like us.
You know, where where did everybody start wearing long shorts? Right? Right?

(25:58):
And and so that's what the culture, that's what they
meant to the culture. There's another team that resonated like that,
that that that the world tried to paint as you know,
good and evil, and Duke has in both of those,
you know, because you got to look at the running rebels,

(26:19):
right you look at un l V and there a
bunch of at.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Least they won though against Duke. That's the point.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Yeah, you you you couldn't. You couldn't beat them, No way,
nobody beat them, nobody they And just so you know,
we got we do have that that uh called Kings
of Vegas. We got that that that documentary as well
Hidden Empire Sports. So just want to throw that out
there is coming coming soon. But not except for.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Greg Anthony has all the rights on the T shirts, right, but.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
All of the guys are partners in, partners in in
the doc and you know, it's a beautiful thing. But
I say that to say, that's what it meant to
the culture to see the fab five freshman players weren't
playing like that. Nobody on the planet Earth was starting
five freshmen nowhere in any level of college basketball. And

(27:11):
so for that to happen, kids start coming out of
high school like, no, we gotta play, and coaches start saying, no,
we let's use the talent now instead of waiting a
couple of years.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, it was a remarkable time, kind of you know,
to be alive. What do you make of just kind
of the whole transfer portal in the nil as far
as when you were playing what it was versus now
and this is just you look at Indiana, how they
changed the game in college football out the blue and
kurse Signetti and then all of a sudden, Michigan kind
of the quote unquote mercenaries.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
What do you make of this? Are you fan of it?

Speaker 5 (27:44):
I'm a fan of him because you know why you
can hire all the talent in the world. The coach
ain't right. It ain't gonna go right. And I think
that's what Kirk Signetti proved. The man said that his
press conference. Google me he did when everywhere I go,
I don't care what you're talking about. Who you gotta
remember Indiana didn't have any five star recruits.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Most of those they had thirty year olds.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
That was different James Madison.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, but a lot of those with their average age
was twenty six.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Come on, it wasn't rob g.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
What was the average age of Indiana one did like
twenty three or something like that.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
It was it was stuff stating them and went to
high school with you.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
You know what, the average the average age of the Green.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Bay package is twenty five? It was twenty three. Like
it's just like the Packers, a.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Pro team, but you had a bunch of kids who
stayed in school the whole time together to win the
national championship and go undefeated. I don't see you could
have it.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
I don't have a problem either. It's the system. But
you can't tell me that you could wrap your arms
around it. That Michigan championship was hollow last night, so
much so I called one of my friends this morning,
texted him and guess what I forgot to even he
how you went to Michigan? My friend Marcel, I forgot
to congratulate him. He had to ask me nothing. I
don't get anything other championship last night?

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Didn't say? But he from Ness Howard felt, do you
know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
I know they wont it's not true.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
You know what I meant? I got you know, I
mean texts I.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Got him either.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Okay, Rob, listen, listen, I'm listening.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Think about it like this. Duke has had a phenomenal
freshman class for the last couple of years. Why do
they keep stalling out? And I'll tell you why. Because
they're eighteen nineteen year old kids. So when these moments
you become big and you got to hone in. Older

(29:46):
teams take advantage of that, right they they play freer.
Think about Just think about this for one second. And
I said this last year when Duke got eliminated. I said,
if Cooper Flag and Canipple and the other kid who left,
if they decided we're going to stay. We're already making

(30:08):
five six million dollars a year. We're going to stay
and team up with the Boozers, who they already knew
were coming and win the national championship. Now you have action.
The same thing is going to happen to Duke this
year again. Their best young players are going to leave
again after one year, and they're going to be in

(30:30):
the same position this year as they were last year
as they will be next year. That's the problem when
those blue chip athletes come in for one year and leave,
whether it no freshmen, who's winning the national championship, but
who's they're no Camelo's going on anymore, right because these

(30:50):
teams that they're playing are guys who stayed in college
for three four years. That's the problem. And there's no
problem at all to me. Those guys are making good money.
Most of them won't pan out in the NBA, So
why not take advantage of college athletes?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
And look, that's I don't have to I don't have
an argument of those guys. You know that. That's not
my argument. I'm just saying, but.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
You get what I'm saying. What I'm winning, retain their freshmen.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Imagine how good they'd be next year or if they
had a good coach.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
But that's a love story.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I'm just saying, he's spicy today. You do what what
do you mean that the last two.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Of you say he's a good recruiting, he's more like
a coach. Can't coach cal is more like him. That's
that's what they gotta do.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
I just hope it makes sense that that you know
the landscape has changed, so your your approach has to change.
You have to be able to retain talent.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
That's the most and that's what I keep saying when
we have these conversations, and that's how we started our
march madness. A couple of weeks ago, I said, none
of these diaper dandy guys are gonna win. It's gonna
be these older, mature, physically already at their you know,
uh peak guys. And one more real quick, go ahead,
go ahead.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
They didn't even win a game right right, college basketball?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, because he was out there just doing it himself.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
But if he had a team that he had grown with,
we had some bumps and bruises with, they would have
been able to do that real quick.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Get you out there. You're a Laker fan?

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Uh bad?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Couple of days, shoot three days? You heard Luca, then
you heard Austar Reeves. Where are you now going into
the playoffs here soon?

Speaker 5 (32:29):
I'm depressed, man, Okay, I'm depressed, and it will be
an early exit. Especially those guys don't come back. It's
just not you know, we had something going. We were streaking.
We were a team that was a formidable foe. Our
defensive or rating was better. Now it's it's it's a
rat man. You can't on any team in NBA if

(32:49):
you take their top two players off the team, the
same outcome. It's the same outcome. Yeah, it's gonna be rough,
the same outcome. So it's no different just because it's
my team. I'm gonna be honest. It's over with the
first round exit.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
All right, there you go. You're having he man appreciate.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
It as always, absolutely, brothers.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
All right, no doubt. Maybe Luca can make it, you know,
miraculous comeback. You never know.

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We'll get to that in just a moment. It is
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Speaker 1 (33:21):
The Eye Couple on a Trash Talking Tuesday, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Fox Sports Radio. The Eye Couple, Rob Kelvin on the
Trash Talking Tuesday. Shout out to Ephraim just joined us, Rob,
do you get that up on the podcast in a
little bit appreciated him.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Still got a lot coming up in the show.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Next hour, Martin Weiss is gonna join us, a Michigan
alum wants to argue about some stuff with us. We'll
do that, and then we also have trash Talking Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Next hour.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Aaron Torres Fox Sports Radio Weekend host, host of the
airin tors Podcasts are going to join us the last hour,
So we got a whole lot to get you throughout
the rest of the show.

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(34:51):
all right, let's get to it. Shekl City.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Welcome to Shekel City, the whole base for Rob Parker's
Daily Dicks against the scrap.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
All right, here we go. You do two and one,
all right?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Ninety nine and sixty eight, thirty one games over five
hundred and Elijah gave.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Me a new You see the new one that's shoot
in the NLB bro Jersey.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
That's pretty nice, Thank you, Aline. That I'm in shaved.
Elijah is doing the character chure, what I'm gonna look like?
Got you? He's in his flat stomach? All good, Thank you, Elijah.
Here we go. Bet we are going to Atlanta. You're
gonna be oh, you're gonna be acting up. I'll be
ready for that. Here we go. Milwaukee minus two and

(35:45):
a half.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
They are the best bet in Brooklyn taking on the Nets,
Phoenix minus one and a half. They're hosting the Rockets,
and the Clippers minus.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Eleven and a half.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
They take on the Dallas Mavericks here in La so again,
Clippers minus eleven and a half, Sons minus one and
a half, and Milwaukee minus two and a half. And remember,
I'm not telling you who to bet on. I'm telling
you who I bet on. And again, thirty one games
over five hundred.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I hit it good today. I passed the one hundred
correct mark. After tonight, you could what are you gonna do?
You could do celebrate triple digits, and honey, I'm celebrating already.
I got a large dyed coke.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
So yeah, So you went to a player love, Okay,
can we can we get on with the show. You
broke down and said, yeah, here's my seventy cents.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
No, no, no, it's.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Got to be a part of the coupon for a
kid's meal.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
And they asked me, They said, is it a little
boy or girl? I said, yeah, that's right. You just
pointed to some kid in the restaurant him. It better
than I asked me.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
If it's if it's when you buy a kid's meal,
it better than I ask Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
I mean some people they can't say. Hey, some people
some places get serious about that. They say twelve and under.
You ain't passing for twelve. Maybe my kid is at
school and I'm going to pick them up. They kid,
why are you drooling? Why your stomach growling?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Why you look? Well? Ask me?

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Sometimes you know I'm very particular. No, no, not that piece
that piece. How would you know if you kid won?
I know, I know what my kids want, all right,
real quick, petty, you like it or not. Miguel Rojas,
Bicky Rojas came in to pitch you and I were
watching the Dodger blow out of the uh it Jenny.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
If I'm the Blue Jays, I'd be pissed the guy
who hit the home run to save the Dodgers with
the world side.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I get the Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
They don't want to waste a picture and a fourteen
to one blowout. They got blowed out.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
It did get blowed out. My gosh, ended up being
fourteen to the finals. Yeah, but no, but yeah, I
love it.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
You know, I like a little petty in my sports, right.
That's what we get for rivalries. But if you want
these things, you because you want you want any time
they play each other, you wanted to be some Trust me,
the Blue Jays took notice, you know what I mean
when they ain't take notice this game so far as
early there's two nothing Dodgers tonight.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
But I'm just saying, like the whole idea, Yeah that
the guy who didn't tied the game. The ninth place
hitter that's putting exactly said. Let me rub it in
that is.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
I like that though, you know what I mean, because again,
I really mean this when I say this, Like the
reason why you get to thirty for thirty was a
Miller time because Reggie Miller and the Knicks going at it,
and you know what made part of the last dance,
that whole segment against the Pistons, And you just need rivalries.
I like that, man, and I we that's what's missing.
Like when you watch the NBA, I think the caliber
basketball's got so much better lately.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I think the teams are extremely tables. Yeah, well that's
what out of that we're looking at. Well right now
the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
How the Pacers go from uh an Achilles away from
maybe winning the NBA Finals to eighteen sixty rob sixty losses.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
You know how painful that is on the soul. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
But Rick carl who's a good coach, great, won a
championship and going to another one.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
So he wass Yeah, no, Rick Carlisle is because Brown
replaced him. Yeah, this is a tank job. This is
a tank job by them.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
And they're losing on purpose.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, I know, But I'm just saying, could say, on
your on your soul as a player, you're lacing them up,
rob g.

Speaker 7 (39:12):
Sixty losses looks like about be sixty. Well you think
that they like if he's a Zubox? Was their big
acquisition of the trade deadline. As soon as he showed up.
Oh yeah, man, I think he's hurt. I think we
got to rest him for two weeks. He came back.
He has a great first half.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
And he his head.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
No, you know, we just want to be said, I
want you to be ready for next season.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Take the rest of the year off, but you gotta go.
They waked him. They want him for next year, y'all.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
He's nice. That's another one. That's one of gods. And
you know that one of the old timers. That's another one.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Let go. Somebody else needs to let it go. We'll
tell you who
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