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How are you well? Non ask me, I'm good? Reverse it,
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You know.
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Trash Talking Tuesday about to start in the first're about
to trash you right now, Come on, Rob.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Rob Parker trash me. It wouldn't be the first, all right.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Do you need to get something off your chest right now?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
No?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I don't.
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Okay, I'm good, all right, just making sure I can
I can be uh a therapist? Did you need to
lay down? Did you need a couch? No, I'm go
get the one from out there, a boneless couch. That's
the only way I'm gonna feel good is would a
bone let you a boneless couch? I might roll off?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Rob.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
You know what I know how to make I make
you feel better. You show me a trick. Let me
show you how to get on that fridge real quick.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Okay, you're gonna show him how to do it.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I'll show you real quick. Can somebody explain one thing
and then we'll get the show. SKA. So an NFL
story broke today. I can't remember which one I'm signing
or whatever. And the story was a covoting to ESPN's
Adam Schefter and NFL Networks.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Joe Blow.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, okay, I've been in his business for forty years.
You don't You don't have the story. Somebody calls in first,
to the editor he has there's no such thing. It's
just it's just no such thing. I don't And then
it's the same company or whatever. But they branded so
and so for ESPN and so on and so for NFL.
(04:31):
We run it, guys, we run that network. Now does
that make sense to you? I could imagine which schefter
him wanted to be ice, you know, like what you're
right now, It's the same in journalism, dude, somebody, somebody
tipped you off. Somebody calls the boss first and says, hey,
this is what's happening. You don't call it at the
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same time. He doesn't answer two phones at the same
time and go, oh, they both called it at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I mean the Kyle sa the hand drop the twelve
and then at twelve oh one.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Okay, I'm just saying, you know what, we're older. I
get the more I don't understand journalism.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Twelve oh one, somebody dropped that. I must have had
that draft ready, somebody broke the story. All right, all right,
how are you all right?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Good man? Yeah, I'm ready to rock and roll and
glad draft? Good? How are you? I'm all right? Just
all right. Usually you say you're great.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
No, I'm okay, No, Tony the Tiger Ross the Flakes.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Right, all right, let's do it. We got a big
show to do to work on today. All right, let's
welcome in the odd couple of crew we will give
to do this farm radio program without him rob G.
But Mexican Mexican rob G. Rob G is still in place.
All good, great, Alex, I'll engineer behind the curtain, Alex,
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never change. Steve de Sager's at the anchor desk in
case I was updated throughout the program. Three hours of
you were ridiculous.
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And of course I've never heard of him.
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And of course Elijah is our social media can you
see him Google?
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It's crazy.
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One day, I'm telling you the movie falling Down. Just
take a look at it and you might have youre
a little young, the go like it falling Down?
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Okay?
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And then uh, the contract with the Ravens wide receiver.
Can you say it isn't so?
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Man?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Can we say it isn't so? Because I just can't
get over it. Seriously, Jay Flowers just rubs me the
wrong way because he's always fumbling.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You better smell them, Flowers, am I Like? Wow, I
ain't gonna lie. I was a little shocked with that one.
Not gonna lie. Talented, quick fast, definitely a weapons that
you remember, don't you. Yeah, but but hopefully you know
this put a little battery charge up because I think
he knows that a lot of people win.
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Excuse me this morning when that lurk.
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search Odd Couple FSR and subscribe. All right, Rob g Uh,
the NFL, as you know, gears up, and they got
to come up with some ideas and stories to get
you interested. Uh. There's not a lot of news going
on other than signings or injury. Somebody's blowing out achilles
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or whatever. So you got to keep milling these stories out.
And of course there's always about the quarterbacks. And Rob
g there was a quarterback tier dropped today.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Yeah, and just before we get to that, you should
know that the YouTube numbers drop precipitously in the first
four minutes and then pick back up there in the
last minute. So whatever you did differently there in the
last sixty seconds, let's keep doing more of that. You
know what, we dropped like thirty percent there in the
first intro.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You know what we could do. We could just come on,
you could turn it on the show and I'll say hello,
you say hello, and we can start the show. How's that?
That's cool if you want to do it like that,
just some energy would be great.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
I'd like to see that, you know, I think the
YouTube being.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
You could just do that. Just do that. Hey, good, Hey,
it's see our couple. Hey, we can drop the name. Hey,
it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington. Hi, it's the afternoon
show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You want to do that. That's not what the streets
are used to. They're used to us breaking it er
single day. Let's just go robbed you we got Yeah,
so you mentioned it. The QB tiars came out. They
come out every single year around this excuse me, every
year around this time. Yes, Mike Sander, the athletic friend
of the show, does a great job. Canvas is the
league fifty executives coaches of all walks of the NFL
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weighing in on the NFL quarterback situation, and surprise, surprise,
when it came time to the Tier one and QB
one overall, it was none other then Patrick Mahomes sits
alone at the top spot. However, it should be noted, guys,
for the first time since twenty twenty two, we actually
(09:00):
had one voter, an anonymous GM who had the Cahonis
to actually place Mahomes in Tier two the first time
in four seasons. Somebody said it with their chest, Mahomes
hasn't really been great for the last couple of years.
I'm not just gonna give him QB one a reputation.
But again, it's only one out of fifty to forty
nine others field differently.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, this is why this list doesn't mean anything to me.
If you can tell me you watched Patrick Mahomes over
the last few years and he's the same quarterback as
when he broke into the league, I don't think you're
being honest. I don't think you've really watched him because
he's not the same quarterback. This is a reputation pick.
(09:41):
And I'm not saying that Josh Allen should be number
one or whatever, but Patrick Mahomes is definitely on the
other side going the other way. And we've talked about it.
We've talked about on the show. I got into it
with Trey Wingo, who acted as if he was still
the same guy from what he broke into the league
and on an incredible run, which is fine. Nobody's trying
(10:03):
to take anything away from him, but can we can
we deal in the here and now and stop off
of reputation. He's not the best quarterback in the NFL.
He's just not. And you can make all the excuses
you want to make. They make him for Patrick. Oh
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you have a running game. Oh you know what it is.
He didn't have a receiver. Oh they had too many drops. Dude,
if you want to play that game, we could play
that game with every quarterback, drops, no running game, a
bad offensive line. We can do that. Come on, dude,
stop can't You can't keep doing that, and I think
(10:46):
you lose credibility seriously, And this list, I take this
list with a grain of salt, except for when it
comes to Shador Sanders. That's the only thing they got right, right, So.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Now you take it a spoonful of sugar when it's there.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
No because he because I think they're more accurate on
the cheduor not the fans who just like him in
his name and his flair and all that. He's you know,
but if you really look at the numbers, it was
the worst starting quarterback in the history of the NFL
who started?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Do you think he was the worst starting quarterback in
the history of the NFL though, because but I'm saying
I do. I thought he was terrible. I thought he
was terrible. He wasn't he wasn't great. I need to
be the first. If his name was.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Joe Smith, he wouldn't be on a team.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But we'll talk more about that because I actually want
to go there Joe Smith scenario. Listen, Patrick Mahomes, You
know what I think, Robert, I think he could use
a little bit of being knocked down a little bit.
The ESPN one had him at second for the first time,
and then I think it's like the last five six
years in this one, he's tier He's you know, Tier one,
and QB one had he been tier one QB four.
(11:51):
I wouldn't have been mad at that, because every now
and again you need to be reminded of where you are,
where you are and how you've been performing. And he
hasn't been great. He been good at best when it
used to be great at minimum, amazing at best. I mean, Rob,
you look at these, look at when he was, when
he was, when Patrick Mahomes was Patrick mahomean. And the
reason why every kid like fourteen and under had the
(12:12):
haircut like him is because he was giving you five
thousand yards with fifty touchdowns and twelve interceptions. The next
year twenty six and five, only five interceptions QBR of
one oh five. Then you go to thirty eight and
six interceptions, forty seven yard, forty seven hundred yards, forty
eight hundred yards and twenty twenty one thirty seven touchdowns,
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thirteen twenty twenty two fifty two hundred yards, forty one
touchdowns and twelve interceptions. So my point is, dude, there's
been some bail. I've tossed in baill. You know that,
all right, Well, let's just see receivers were heard. This
wasn't when they came back.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
You thought that it was gonna be and you remember
what happened and it didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, and twenty twenty four, the numbers don't look horrible,
twenty six and eleven. But you're Patrick Mahomes, you know
what I'm saying. If that was someone else, you'd like,
all right, it's cool. Even a Sam Donald you'd be like,
all right, you know nothing, Patrick Mahomes, you're going up
against your own standard. And I think there have been
guys who have played the quarterback position for the last
few years that if they were jumped up to QB
(13:14):
one quarterback one, Tier one quarterback one, Josh Allen, we'll
talk about Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow went healthy.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
There's a handful of guys.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
So I think it might have been some added motivation
for him to say, dude, you've been the don dada,
You've been the guy for a handful of years, five
six years, but right now you haven't played like it.
You're still good. We still think you're gonna be one
of the more amazing careers at the end of it.
But I'm alright, we'll put a little fires under his butt.
He knows he has.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Trying to motivate him. It's just fine.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
No, but I'm saying this should be a remind I'm
saying that would have been a reminder to him that
you haven't been playing great, you haven't been playing to
the standards that you have. And not only that, some
of those passes you have forced, some of those passes
you have, you know you missed the easy ones trying
to go for the harder ones. Maybe you could use
your legs more time. So to me, I agree that
he couldn't. He should not have been QB one. Josh
(14:03):
Allen has earned that that spot. Disrespect to Lamar Jackson.
We'll talk about that later. Yeah, But Patrick Mahomes, he's
got more. He's got to improve, he's got to get
back to being He ain't even got to be fifty touchdowns,
but he's got to be a much better version of himself.
And this year can't be an excuses for him at all.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
No, not at all. Eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Real simple, is Patrick Mahomes living off his reputation? Is
he really the best quarterback in the NFL? Or is
this just people living in the past. Because I don't
see it. Kelvin think he's no, he's the best quarterback
in the league anymore. I think that's like so pass
(14:44):
so three years ago and they're still living off of that.
It would be like eating off of pizza and a
refrigerator for three years. Three it was good. Dangn it
was three days, three years.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It was the bubbles stale and by the way, living
off the pass.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You know, why didn't that work for some other quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
There you go, they drop, they drop, but they've won
more MVP. Piece of recent We're gonna talk to all
the guys. But but but they dropped because they had
a bad year or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And even that bad year, when you really look at it,
wasn't that bad. So we'll talk about that later too.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
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tiers from the quarterbacks Tier one Patrick Mahons, but QB
one Patrick Mahomes. Does he still deserve that slot after
a couple years. I'm good at best man at some
of them? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Who we got? All right? Let's kick it off with
David and Lexington. You're on the yad couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, David?
Speaker 5 (17:43):
What's up? Gentlemen? What's up? Bro?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I agree?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Rob?
Speaker 8 (17:48):
I agree?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
You know, I think the media does a do a
bad job of living on for reputation. Obviously, last two years,
Patrick Mahomes is not the same quarterback the last.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
Two years before or you know, they talk about Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
He hadn't even won a championship and he's been He
had a horrible year last year. He turned the ball
over in the playoffs. But we continue to say he's
a top tier quarterback because they won all the MVPs.
We're living off. We need to live here and now.
And I think that the media how they, you know,
paint the picture of these older quarterbacks. They did it
with Rogers and they continue to do it.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
But you know, you're right, you know he's not the
same Lamar not.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
The same, and then you know it's the truth, all right.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I disagree with the Lamar one a little bit. Think
you put a little extra sauce on it. But you know,
we'll get it. We'll get into that a little bit later.
Who we got next?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
All right?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Who next?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Charlie in Dayton, Ohio. You're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Charlie?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
What's going on?
Speaker 9 (18:45):
I'm down there second Atlanta traffic man. I got all
kind of time.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Well we'll be there next week.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
Hey, real quick.
Speaker 9 (18:51):
On the On the QB one tiers, both Joe Burrow
and Lamar deserve to be on number one tier. Joe's
five and two in the playoffs. Is only two offsers
are the Super Bowl by afield goal in the ANFC
Title Game by Afield goal. Uh Mahomes has won seventeen
playoff games and he's got three Super Bowl champions. He
(19:12):
is easily number on quarterback NFL.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Still, no, no, no, no, it's not it's not but
but it's not based on uh. To me, it's not
based on It's not a lifetime achievement award. We understand
that we're not trying to take anything away from him.
If you were to do something after his career was over, whatever,
But he's not playing the best quarterback in the league
right now, and he has.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
No what towards a cl He don't You don't before that?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Come on, no one has given nobody. I've thrown a
lot of bail his way.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
You know that run. I've thrown a lot.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
Of Bill Lamar gets a ton of passes and he's
won three games.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
No no, no, no, no no no no no no no
no no.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And I'm confused, Rob, is it a lifetime achievement or
is it not? Because because if that's the case, Lamar
Jackson's you want to do the stats, you want to
do life. Have you seen Lamar Jackson stats?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
No, no, no, no. But I'll give you a perfect example,
all right, And this is the perfect where I'm going.
Last year, Lamar drives them down to Pittsburgh for a
game winning field goal to win it. Despite everything that
went on chance winning winning and go to playoffs, and
the kicker miss the field goal, nobody brings up. Derek
Henry had like five or six terrible fumbles that cost
(20:30):
him a couple of games where he fumbled the football.
But it's always Lamar and you act like that didn't happen.
But you give Patrick Mahomes a pass that he doesn't
have a running game?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Which one is it? Which one is it? That's another
guy too, who can feel some way about this. I
just want to make sure I want to overstep my
Jalen Hurts is somebody who can feel some particular way.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Are you going off wins and production or you.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Because Jaylor, I'm not saying he is the best quarterback
throwing the ball.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
You know, I've been critical of them of that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But what I'm saying is the dude wins at a
high clip, a very his game, very high clip.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
He's been in the postseason every year.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Just didn't go last year? When last year? Right?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I'm a tripping But my point is always into the playoffs.
Been at two super Bowls, outplayed Patrick Mahomes. So my
point is we got it? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
People?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Or no? Well, no, the playoffs don't matter. It's because
I thought this was about regular season. All right, let's
squeeze in one more Dion in Texas. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Dion?
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (21:31):
First of all, I want to shout out to you guys.
Last Friday that was like one of the that's a
top three show of all time last Friday. Go listen
to the podcast of the High Dope.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Are you serious?
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Did you like that? Oh yeah?
Speaker 8 (21:43):
Oh yeah, we might we.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Might have to cut that out. I don't know if
we can continue that.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Okay, gotcha?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
You know what, we might Rob Geez and tomorrow. We
might do it tomorrow, Dion, So make sure you listen
to them all.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
I am listening, guys. I'm locked in as huge well,
and I concede. I finally con see Rob. You've been
you know, we want to use the name hater, but
you just being real, Patrick Mahomes, we cannot say that.
The last season a shortened season. It didn't look good
right before it was shortened. And now we're going to
come back and put him at to number one. I
(22:17):
like what Kelvin said before. He's a top tier quarterback,
but maybe not the number one. Maybe he's number four,
maybe he's number five, and maybe hey, maybe we only
have three or four top tier quarterbacks. And last and
at least, Rob, you took a dig at your door.
The guy he's competing with, they're in the same tier,
so it's kind of even there.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
So thanks guys, thanks for coming.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
No dow Deep, I talked to you in a while, man,
thank you for listening. Brother as always, appreciate you. All Right,
we can throw this to Epraim on the other side
right now, Steven Sega is going to get you updated.
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Speaker 3 (22:56):
All right, Steve, thank you appreciate it.
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Speaker 1 (23:15):
Man?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
What's that? Brothers? How y'all doing doing good? Man?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Doing good?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
We were just having this conversation. You can probably put
a button on it. We're talking about just the Tier
one quarterbacks and quarterback number one and the tier once
again was Patrick Mahomes. And you know, I've been, I've been,
you know, understanding of some of the circumstances for him.
This guy was out, this guy were into offensive line.
But at this point, to me, I'm perfectly fine with
Josh Allen being number one. It's obviously in Tier one
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and being QB one.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Rob says he's not a lifetime Achievement award. Shouldn't you know,
Patrick Machone shouldn't still be.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Nobody's trying to take away what he's accomplished, but he
hasn't been the best quarterback in a couple of years
in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
And look and this is gonna be weird and a
lot of people are gonna be like, what, But Rob
is right, you know, Rob is right when you look
at the landscape of quarterbacks and the crop of young
quarterbacks we've seen on display last year, in the last
couple of years. I mean, Patrick Mahomes is great and
has been great, But for the last two seasons, even
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when they went fifteen and two, we were like, they're
going fifteen in two despite Patrick.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Thank you, thank you. How many times do we do that,
talk about the other team disintegrated, fumbled at the kicker,
mister field.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
It was, it was, And so we've seen what's transpired
since then, and for him to be coming off a
serious injury and all of a sudden catapults him back
into the number one spot. Even when he was healthy
the last two years, he hadn't been the Patrick Mahomes
that we've known and become and fell in love with.
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You can't you can't do that because we don't know
how he's going to respond to the injury, and we
don't know how well their received even core is going
to be for him to Does he have enough help
is what I'm saying. Does he have enough of will
they finally have a thousand yard rusher. I know they
got the kid over from Seattle, but will they now
be able to take some of that pressure off? And
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so it's not always the Patrick Mahomes show. I don't know.
So for that reason, I can't put him in number one.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, And you know, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I think he would even be okay with that, Like,
I mean, he's got to keep it a buck, he's
got to keep it real. He hasn't been and especially
Rush if you go, if you grade him by his
own standards. I told Rob, I gave him all the
numbers his first five seasons ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
That's why we look at him that way.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
If you're talking five thousand yards a couple of times,
forty eight hundred yard, forty seven hundred yards, you're talking
thirty eight touchdowns, thirty seven, forty one fifty.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I mean it was insane, you know. And the interceptions
were low for a while.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You know, he had twelve and five and sixth and thirty,
and it's just it's not been the same. And so
he has a lot to prove and that's okay, and
he can turn it right back around and have another
four or five years, but for a couple of years
he hasn't been that. And if you're Josh Allen to me,
I look at it and say, well, what do I
gotta do? Is it simply win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yeah? He has to get over the hump. Josha Allen
is a terrific quarterback. He's letting people down, He's let us,
he's letting the fans down, he's letting his own fans down,
and he's letting the league down.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
If you remember from at the end of the first
half in that playoff game against Denver, he was his
own worst enemy. You remember he threw across his body.
He had a huge turnover that led to points. Yeah,
it was bad. If you remember, it was just like
what are you doing?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Look? He ascended, right, he became this guy, dual threat
quarterback up to his completion percentage almost twenty percent, which
was unheard of, went from like fifty six to seventy
three and in a single year under Brian dave Ball.
So all of those things matter. He's been an unstoppable force.
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But how do you can you feel the deal? Can
you close the deal? Can you get to that next threshold? Yes,
you've been an MVP. Lamar Jackson's been an MVP twice.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Should have been to each to be honest.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Should you're actually right, should have been three times. But
Lamar fits in that same category. Gory tremendous talent, But
can you take over the throne? And the only way
to do that is to surpass someone who's there, and
then you ultimately have to win a Super Bowl. You
have to because that's where the bar is set.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Heyrom I gotta go here. And I'm not mad at
j Flowers, but he got one hundred and forty million,
hundred and three one hundred four guaranteed to me, signed
one hundred and four million dollar contract. I don't care
about the fake NFL gives a little glitter and all that.
But my point is an Ephraim, maybe tell me I'm wrong,
or tell me I'm being too hard. When I think
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is Jay Flowers, I think of big mistakes that have
cost the Ravens in big moments. I don't I don't
think of him as like this great receiver who you
can't live without. I think of that fumble at the
one yard line against the Chiefs. I think of other
plays where he miss misshandled when they played Buffalo. He
had a couple of mistakes in that, remember the big
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forty point turnaround in that. I don't know, am I
being too hard on him? On Zay Flowers? Is he
that great?
Speaker 8 (28:15):
No?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Look when you say, say, Flowers, do you think Jamar Chase? No? Okay, Jefferson,
do you do you think Jackson?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Ced?
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Like, you don't think any of those players? So no,
that if you've answered the question if you don't think
those players, because that's where those players live. If you
don't think those players, then yet you're not being hard
on them. And that's the reality of it. Now, can
he come out and separate himself and be the number
one receiver in the entire NFL? And you know, at
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a time where dynamic receivers are seemed to be falling
off the trees. I don't know if he can do that.
I know Baltimore needs him to be that in order
for them to have an opportunity in the division and
in the layoffs. But you know, at this point, you
look at the market, what else, what they're what, what
they're gonna do? You know, what were they gonna do?
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And so that's essentially how teams are. You know, Dallas
is under that pressure with Picket like they when this
number comes out, he's gonna be like, all right, so
what we're doing right? You got it's it's a situation
where the market dictates to the player, opposed to the
player dictating the market.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Let me go here, we talk about this with the
running backs.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
You got John Robinson getting paid obviously, Jamier Gibbs trying
to get paid. How how much back in your day
when you were blocking you you knew you were blocking
for running backs. And we'll pass as well. But we're
gonna run this ball a lot. Do you like to
see or maybe you want to see more where we're
getting back to utilizing these these star and these special
backs more.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
What you have to understand is the lifeblood of an
offensive team and a team are the guys up front,
those five offensive players, uh on the offensive line, that's
the life blood. If you don't have them, I don't
care how good your quarterback is. That's Patrick Mahons right.
If you can't block, I don't got how good they
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used to be. Act Philly after a Kelsey left at
Taekwon Barkley after Kelsey left, like that's the life Look
at the line line up. That's exactly that's the lifeline
of a team. And what we love to do as
an offensive line is run block more than anything. So
if you could compare, if you can pair up a
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dynamic front, five offensive lineman or even four great ones
in one that that we can work with, and a
dynamic running back, you yourself as a team will have
a successful offense. Because now what we do is we
mitigate risks, and that's what football is. That's what any
sport is. You mitigate risks. Can we get to third
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and four more times than we're at third and nine
or twelve? That's what the game of football is. And
with the dynamic running back and offensive line, you can
be in that third to four, third and three more
times than that, which exponentially raises your chances of being
successful time of possession, keep the other team off the field,
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but you're always in down the distance and it takes
the pressure off your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
All right, from man, appreciate it as always, brother, Thank
you so much.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Absolutely man, y'all, all right, all right.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
No doubt, all right, that's it from there.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Make sure you give a follow e from Salam and
on the way Shekel City we'll see how you did
there and also talk to school. But we finally heard
from him some thoughts on what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
We'll do that.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
It's the Odd Couple on the Trash Talking Tuesday, Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Well, let me hear the words here, y'all yeah, and
Rob saying hey y Fox Sports Radio. Oh, sheer boys,
The eye Couple, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington on a trash
talking to.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
I hurt you so ridiculous. Robson.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Kyle Slider, former NFL quarterback, going to join us next
hour Trash Talking Tuesday, next hour as well, So still
a lot to get to, uh, and some more quarterback
conversations as well in the show. So we'll get to
a lot before it's all said and done. All right,
right now to sign for Shekel City.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
What's doing on?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Welcome to Shekel City, the home base for Rob Parker's
daily dis against the scrap.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
You got a tissue from me.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
You're still trying not to be entertaining. You're entertaining. I'm
not entertaining. You are, no, I'm not, Yes, you are
all right?
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
No, no, no, no, don't don't go backwards one and
two last night? Oh yeah, then you did. You had
nerd to go one and two. Good on, Alex.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
We need to go three and oh one ninety four
and one seventy four.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Best bet tonight. Dodgers minus one and a half at all.
You got Schoobl doing his thing. I just think they've
lost four in a row. They're bound them, am I right?
Speaker 5 (33:13):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Thirteen and thirteen, the last twenty six? Yeah, thirteen and thirteen.
I mean they've they've been scuffling. So I'm gonna say
they need to win. I don't know if Schoobl's gonna
do it, but they need to win. Raised minus one
and a half. They're in the playing the Rockies in Denver,
and uh, the Mariners minus one and a half. They
host the Tigers in Seattle, So again marin is minus
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one and a half. Raised minus one and a half
and the Dodgers minus one and a half. I remember, Calvin,
what's that? I'm just doing a plain an easy radio show.
And I'm not trying to get in the way. All right.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
You know what the best part about it is, remember
what was his name, Miles Mills Lane. I'm gonna have
three meals Lane, because rog G gonna come in here.
Ain't gonna put you in the full Nelson. No, I
might have to go like Rob about what's going on?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
As he does.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You don't have to unplug your microphone?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Go ahead, what.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
But what did unplug your micah? What did you say
about turn off your micah?
Speaker 4 (34:11):
That's what it is. We turn off your micah?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
All right?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Do you just chime in, bring in, bring me.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
In, and then I'll disconnect all the phones so you'll
make you talk for that. That'll be the punish you
cancel the guests. I'll take no calls, all right, Rob,
you got it? Show us what you're working with.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
That'll be a good show.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Right, Yeah, they'll call that me to call that man
mystic cool?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
All right?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Speaking of school, by the way, Rob G, do we
have the sound we do?
Speaker 4 (34:34):
All right?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
So school I mentioned earlier, We actually kind of have
heard from him obviously all the conversation about him now
being a Dodger.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Here's what he had to say, that's.
Speaker 10 (34:42):
Exactly what it is, right, It's just noise. And there's
there's nothing I can really do to change any narrative
or say anything. And there's a lot of stuff that
I don't even want to get into either.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
So it is what it is. Though.
Speaker 10 (34:53):
It's just noise, you know. And I'll let you guys
talk about all that stuff. You know, I'm going to
be focused on winning baseball games.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
He said a lot more, rob And and I thought
it was interesting. He said a whole lot more. He
talked about the idea that you know, all these other
teams could have got me, all these other teams could
have made some of these trades, all these other teams
could have signed some of these players. And he went
on and just talked about the Dodgers. How you know
everybody's mad. They weren't winning a couple of years ago
a World Series side, and now they win. Now y'all
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got a problem. I mean, he was talking like a
like a dude who's been there for eight nine years.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Well he's got They gave him the cheat sheet, the
narrative to to to be able to justify it. You
can say whatever you want, like if you think what
the Dodgers are doing now is the same as the
Yankees when they won their work. It's not the same
to be the Yankees. The Yankees gotta be the Yankees
would the last team to win three in a row, right,
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But I'm saying that way though, because I'm just saying
it's different. This team is transactional. That's all I'm saying.
I said it on Channel four here Sunday night. They
haven't done anything wrong, but it doesn't mean that people
can't be feeling like compelled or oh my god, and
this team is like must see. I can't believe the
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Dodgers put this together. What a juggernaut and they added
the right piece. This is not what this is. This
is a transactional team. I think the larger that's what
people have an issue with. I think the larger point
from what I've been saying, and you know, he even
said it today, was the more along the lines of
like why why aren't other teams making these one? Why
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aren't other teams? Why aren't they getting these players? Why
are players wanting to come there? Wire players wanting to sign?
But it's also the Dodgers, because of their wealth, are
able to erase when the bad signings happened, like like
it doesn't hurt them. And I'm gonna give you Tanner
Scott we talked about when they signed him to that contract,
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like anybody else who would have signed Kyle Tucker would
be in panic right now that they gave this guy
four year, sixty million dollars, you know what I mean?
And he's batting two thirty with eight home runs. Whatever
it is, like like that's what they can do. They
can just keep piling on regardless if things work out
or not, if you're the Milwaukee Brewers. And it's the
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difference is the Brewers can't give up their entire form
system with the idea of winning one World Series and
maybe if you don't win, your setback for for ten years.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
They don't disagree with That's what difference. But I think
what Tyrek Skoobel and others of saying is that that
they've created this. The Dodgers have been the Dodgers for
a million years and they didn't win since nineteen since
nineteen was it eighty eight? And they didn't win for
a long time and then they got to the World
Series now dag near decade ago, which the time is
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flying by, but you know, and they had a couple
of appearances and they lost. My point is like they
slowly had to build this thing. They slowly had to
get to where they are, and now they are Juggernaut.
And I'm saying that happens in sports. Well, we weren't
thinking about the Warriors. They had that one load of eighteen.
It's the same, and then all of a sudden the
Warriors became a thing like this has the same reaction.
It's the same reaction when Katie went there after it
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just is like how much? How much is enough? Like
you know what I said, It's like it's not enough.
You had a big steak dinner at Mastros. You want
five pieces of uh? What is that lemon cake? I'm
gonna say yeah. But I'm saying you sound like Rod
Parker right now. You want I shot like Rob Parker
in exactly a week?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
You want?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
It's not like you just had twelve lamb chops man
and and uh and and they don't wanted some cheat
some vanilla bean way.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I'm feeling right now you might break it early. I'm
gonna be drunk on Monday. I'm already knowing, Like but
that's far from that.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I've had to drink some Super Bowl right, but I'm saying,
but then you're allowed to be You're allowed to drink
on Monday. You're back right now. If you said you
were drinking the night, then I'll be all right. Rob,
I'm concerned,