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March 2, 2026 38 mins

Rob and Kelvin debate whether the Lions’ decision to trade away David Montgomery signals the beginning of the end of Detroit’s Super Bowl window, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, Detroit Football Network founder Justin Rogers swings by to discuss the Montgomery trade, whether we should expect the Lions to bounce back in a big way next season, what makes the NFC North the toughest division in the NFL, and much more!

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What is that? Minutia? Okay, are you in your health?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Kick?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Now?

Speaker 4 (03:10):
It started today, it's officially started. I am so fat.
When I got on a scale today, I almost.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Threw up in my mouth.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
I mean, you know, on a run, I need to
lose you ready, So it must be up past forty now,
fifty one pounds? Hello, that's a lot. That's It's a lot.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Fifty one pounds. That's what I'm going for. All right, listen,
shoot for the shoot for the stars. I'm gonna make
it happen.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Don't be when I go to my in August, when
I go to Magic City with the crew, I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Be all right, Okay, I'll be good. I hear you.
Fifty one is a lot. You know that I can
do that? S say?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
You know how it goes like it's the first twenty
thirty is like all right, yeah, I didn't get that. Yeah,
it's tough that last ten, fifteen, twenty that that's so.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's not that I've seen you do. I witnessed it.
I'm not. It's just fifty is fifty one pounds? Can
I do it? Uh? The odd mob they've seen me man,
I know I can do it. I believe in myself.
You can do it.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Look mix it a little Robgy, No, I'm not doing that.
Couple of job che like hostco said they got him
for the half off.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
To Now, rob g would you recommend me jabbing myself
for taking diet pills or they got pills?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Now? Yes? What do you mean?

Speaker 6 (04:33):
I mean, well, you're gonna be healthier than what you
be doing.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Why eating less?

Speaker 6 (04:38):
But you eat less? You don't eat like healthy food?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
That part he ain't like.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
I just had a shrimp salad. What's not unhealthy about that?
What this is dyeing lemonade? What's unhealthy about that?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Moderate process a lot of me?

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Yeah, after eating less of real food?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, oh god god, it's hard.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Let's and it's hard. That's why most people run around
here overweight. You gotta eat right, you gotta work out,
you gotta rest, you gotta sleep.

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Rob g is our producer. Wow, well, y'all listen.

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They're like sister and brother and they always fight, always fighting,
always arguing.

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It's always something going on in there. Elijah is our
social media guru. Who Elijah?

Speaker 4 (05:55):
I always say, Elijah the birthday boy, Elijah. I tried
not to say your birthday on the air to the
very end. Let me see Elijah thumbs up or down
on saying how old you are?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Boy? He's a picture of it. I saw it, did you? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
He postedly had a shirt on it said so I
don't know, like back to the future, but it's something
with forty in it.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Okay, but I just at first I didn't. I didn't
say it to start the show, and he literally ended it.
Then I said, yeah, happy forty his birthday to Elija.
After you hate, don't put you know, don't put his age,
don't put his don't put it in. I'm just saying.
He went the whole three hours just to just to
say it at the very end.

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Speaker 2 (06:35):
And of course on the ones and twos. Why your
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Speaker 4 (06:42):
All right, let's get kick you off on this show,
Rob g let's start this out. We got some news
this morning about the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 7 (06:51):
Uh and changes. Changes, that's right. Yeah, it's one that
we kind of saw coming. But it's still a tough blow.
Nonethe last, Detroit Lions have traded away half of their
dynamic duo backfield Knuckles will no longer be in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
David Montgomery.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
Has been traded to the Houston Texans for offensive lineman
Juice Scruggs.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh wait, I thought CJ. Stroud was in Detroit.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
No, okay, and two picks in the next two drafts,
the twenty twenty six fourth round or twenty twenty seven
seventh rounder. Now it's tough to see him go, obviously,
but we've kind of seen this on the writing on
the wall. He's been unhappy with his role there. Last season,
his touches per game really plummeted, and now all eyes
will be on a very good running back. Pro bowler

(07:39):
Jamier Gibbs will be getting the Lion's share of the
work even more they did last season. But long story short,
David Montgomery out of Detroit.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'll say this to you, Kelvin, if you're a Lions fan,
this is the beginning of the end. Mark my words.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
When they had their plan they put this team together,
they had like a window, a three year window. This
is going into year five. Last year they didn't make
the playoffs. It was like a five year window and
three good years and then a bad year last year,
and now here we are. And this is when you
start losing players. You can't hold the whole team together.

(08:21):
You gotta start paying some other people. This is what happens.
This is why you see teams go from pretty good
for a couple of years and then they can't pay everybody.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
People are moving on.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
It ain't the same squad that you had when you
thought you had something special.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
And guess what, Dan Campbell.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Might be right. In fact, I know he's right. What
when they lost that NFC championship game to the San
Francisco forty nine ers, what did he say?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (08:55):
He said, felt bad about the way that game went.
This we might not get back. This might have been
our only chance, he said it.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I mean, that's that's.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
A very that's an odd because of how these things go.
But Kelvin, I got my Texas came in from our
friends in Detroit, all big Lions fans. They didn't like
the news, and I think that this could be a
precursor as to we start to see the team that
they had assembled. Ben Jonson's gone, you know what I mean,

(09:28):
all the numbers, they were killing it offensively, killing it differently.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Now it sucks, you know this from covering sports.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Certain people are the heartbeat connected to the city fan favorites,
and that's what David Montgomery had become. Knuckles and Sonics,
him and Jamier Gibbs, Uh, they have become this this,
you know, fire and ice, if you will, just a
great contrast. One is more hard nose, run up the gut,
get those hard yards. The other guy's escapability speedy. And

(10:01):
they had been that for a few years now, but
his uses dropped dramatically last year. He went from around
sixteen touches last year to down to ten point seven
touches this year. They weren't using him in the red
zone as much, and a lot of that is because
Jamir Gibs became arguably the best one two to three
backs in the entire league, so that you wanted to

(10:22):
get the ball into his hands more so this became
an inn thatedibility, and I think it is actually one
of those times where you can say this isn't a
bad idea. He gets to go to Texas where we
know they needed a run a game, They needed somebody
and something to get the hands out of a ball
out of cj strous hands. All the time Joe Mixon's
been injured, Joe Mixon hasn't been able to produce the
way he wanted to. So for them to get a

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guy who's still only twenty nine, who didn't get a
bunch of uses last year so still got a little
bit of tread on those tires.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
This is great for the Texans. It's great for the Lions.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
They get an offensive lineman, they get a draft pick
of a two more draft picks. So to me, this
is actually one of those this is a fair deal
for both. They talked about it last season. I mean
this earlier in the season. They wanted to get him
going more. They just couldn't. They couldn't find room for him.
And so to me, it's a great move where they
get some space and some time more for and you
can find a guy to substitute ten touches. You can

(11:12):
find a guy to get ten touches. You can find
a guy in free agency. You can find a guy
that's already in your backfield. You can find a guy.
And again it hurts because he was a great player.
He was a great part of the rebuild one thousand percent.
But this is a problem with Brad Holmes, and it's
a good problem. He drafts too well. When you look
at all the folks they've drafted, all the money they
owed to people to I'm and Ron say Browny drafted

(11:34):
Jamison Wilson. We know he didn't get the ball enough.
They got Jared Goff and the deal they had to
get for him. They got Kirbie Johnson, a great safety
if he can stay healthy. They got the offensive linemens
that are still good. Obviously they need a couple more pieces.
They've drafted so well, and they's so great. A free
agency you can't keep and can't pay everybody, So I
don't look at this one. As if you'd have told me,
I Jamiir Gibbs, I will be right here with you,

(11:55):
I would be like, yoah, it was a good run.
He was already on his way out.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
It sucks because of the man, the person, what he
meant to the team into the city, but it makes
sense for both parties.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
So this one didn't move me quite as much as
you did.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
More for a team that's supposedly supposedly trying to win.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Now draft picks don't him. I'm not that big on that.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
What those two guys did gave them a nice one
to two punch. That was something that offensively they were
able to run, run the table and put up big
numbers with Ben Johnson. So to remove him from the
team and act as if you know it's going to
be the same old thing or even better without him,
I'm not. I'll have to see it. I have to

(12:36):
see some good see it to believe it. It's some
good things. They receive it though.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
You draft very well, so now you get a couple
of draft picks and you get an opportunity. You didn't
make the playoffs last year, ning I would be with
you a year ago, like not this previous season, they
didn't use him that much, so it was almost becoming
a waste of goods just sitting there. You might as
well get something for him that Texans can use. They
need a running back. The who's the other offensive alignment

(13:01):
that they let go? Graham Glasgow?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
The Texans you talking about? No, No, I mean Allions. Lions.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, but they're they're getting alignment back, and they got
two draft picks and so they need they needed that.
They unfortunately didn't need David Montgomery's services anymore, which suck in.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
He is a part of the rebuild.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
He's been there from when they sucked, so when they
got solid, so when they got really good, he's been
there and so the city loves them. But that's the
hard part about being good. And that's the hard part
about drafting. Well, when I got to pay everybody, and
I can't. Everybody can't get paid, everybody can't stay.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah, but they are pieces on teams sometimes that mean
a lot. I don't disagree, and it ain't always just
in the stats. And I think if you're a Lions fan,
to me, this was the changing of a goal. I
hear what you're saying, but when you start to see
what they had put together and what was working for
them finally when they became an elite offense. This is

(13:54):
a piece that you've taken away eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox Even seven nine, six sixty three sixty nine.
How big of a loss is David Montgomery in Detroit
and is this the beginning of the end as we
know it? Last year no playoffs? Will it be two
years in a row. We'll continue that conversation next with

(14:14):
you on This Magic City Monday, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington.

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(15:27):
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hopping in.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Big news for the Lions.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
They are trading one of their star running backs, David Montgomery,
had been there with the team for four I think
three years, three four years, and he's going to the Texans.
Obviously they need some running help and they're gonna give
up a couple of picks to the Lions and also
a offensive lineman. So we'll talk a little bit more
about that we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Is that a good move? You?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Rob believes that this is the beginning of the end
for the Lions.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
As we know them.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
You know what I mean, as as there comes a
point where you're trying to stay you have this thing
put together right, You're a well oiled machine, and then
pieces start to come off because people gotta get paid,
people get older, things, transition. This is probably to me
the first piece of hate being a part of the resurgence.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
And now he's gone.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, I mean that makes he's been there from the turnaround.
But I look at it as again, he had to go.
You can't pay everybody, you can't keep everybody along the journey.
It happens with every good team, great team, and this
to me sad. But they had, you know, they had
to be done. And now they got some picks. Now
they got a chance to have an offensive linean who
can maybe help him out. Eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox, Let's take car.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Who we got?

Speaker 4 (16:40):
All right, let's get started with Jay is in Georgia.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jay?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
How are you yo?

Speaker 5 (16:49):
What's going on? Guys? How y'all doing what?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'm Jay doing? Great? My man?

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Hey? First of all, I heard about the Atlanta Halls,
my hometown team, the franchise that are root for throwing man,
the seedy Monday on the Sea team. The first people
I thought about was you.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Got are you going?

Speaker 5 (17:09):
I ain't gonna lie on pissed. The tickets sold out
in one day.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
You already knew that. Come on your slipping, Jay, caught
your slip.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Look at that.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Everybody make it a big stake that really they sold
out and one day they.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
Sold out it. One day I had to set up
for a buying a hoodie because that was the only thing.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
That man went from a going through the game to
getting a hoodie. I need, I need one of those hoodies.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Could y'all could have been needed to see the weekly man,
But no, don't don't count rob out yet.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I'm not gonna be there, man, But don't count rob out.
The only reason I'm not gonna be there. I have
jewelry duty that week. Oh man, Yeah you know you
have it or call in and I can't know.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
They might tell you dismissed. All right, Jay, what you
got my man?

Speaker 5 (17:52):
I did laying thing. I think the ending kind of
started last season when they missed the playoffs and not
It just seems like a move a different race. They
trying to find pizzas that are and they still got
to pay the time. They still going to have to
pay other player, right, so they're trying to find scenes
to like missing man. But yeah, I think this Lions

(18:16):
run is over. Might be over for youeen man, I
get you.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I don't see that only because I don't expect them
to be thirteen and you know, or fourteen and three.
But I just they lost too many games close, and
like we always talked about, one year, you're you're gonna
win eight out of ten of them some dear two.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I just feel like they'll be right back there and
they can see think the division is way harder.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Way, the division is a tough division. And I think
they can thank you for the call, ja, by the way.
I think they can. I think they can ride off. Obviously,
got to see free agency trades, all that draft picks,
but ten to eleven is not crazy again, ten eleven
to twelve and puts you right back in playoff position.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
But they've had one ten games, didn't make the playoffs.
That's exactly what I had them pay. They can win
ten again. And I don't expect the Bears to be
that good. Really, No, I don't definitely not. But sounds
like we got a bet we will.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Let's get that draft, let's get through everything. See what's
what you know? They will do it again. I don't
have what am I gonna give you some vegan wings,
some califlower wings.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
No, no, no, I want to I want you to
get a chance to get your Jordan's back.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I want a pair of Jordan's for that. No, we
don't have to feel like me.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
That's that's see how Rob when you want to win
your Jordan's back if you lost two pair of springoes.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
No, I don't want something better than Jordan's.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
What you want lebrons him to come sit front row
at church for a month.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, like you never paid off on your Sam Donald
bet like that.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
That's because Elijah told me that he couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Was like that there was something cap Elijah don't know,
can't he would make it happen. There was some technical differ.
What do you calling me a lie?

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Car now don't Rob g he don't shut believe I
followed through with everything?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Are you kidding me? What do you even say?

Speaker 6 (19:57):
I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I didn't say that.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
You did say that, dude, I'd say that so I
would have been out like fifty dollars if I would
have lost.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
No Robs out And he's like, oh wow, I'm not
doing that.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
What are you gonna say to you? K Kapa what
are you talking about? Rob?

Speaker 6 (20:10):
You just give me the fifty dollars if you we're
not doing that?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
So are you gonna sing?

Speaker 4 (20:14):
I would have segond two days to figure this out,
what with some issues technical isshap and then I was
going out of town.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Kevin and Culver City robbed you if you didn't pay him.
I'm still waiting on my wings from Kevin.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Hey, Justin Rodgers, longtime Detroit Lions beat writer, founder of
the Detroit Football Net. We're gonna join us here in
a moment. We'll have this commence a little bit more
of the conversation about the Lions, what they need to do,
some other in the NFC North as well. Right now,
Steve the Seger, gonna get you set on what's trending, Hey, Steve.

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Speaker 2 (20:56):
Steve, thank you so much. It's the odd couple.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Robin Kelvin on a Magic City Monday and tire rec
Player of the Day on the way Shekel City as well.
Right now we are joined by Justin Rogers, He is
the longtime Detroit Lions beat writer, founder of the Detroit
Football Network. Justin underscore Rogers and find out if Justin
believes this is the end or just to move the beginning.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Of the end. Just in the beginning of the end.
What's up? How are you welcome to the y odd couple.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Again?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah? So there's only a woman, Justin. You know it
will be a little bit, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Last year was our doomsday when I said they weren't
gonna make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Justin was our doomsday last year?

Speaker 8 (21:38):
No, you you were apparently spot on.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Okay, no, Justin, let me say, does he's gonna say
they're not gonna make it every year?

Speaker 4 (21:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
No, no, no, no no. I'll tell you what he's gonna do.
He's gonna go They're supposed to make it. They got
all that telling.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Then when they don't last year, Justin, all I'm gonna say,
and then we'll let you get talk, is for two
teams that were the number one seed in the AFC
and the NFC, I picked both the line Engine cheese
not to make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I think that's stepping out there.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
This is why gambling exists. What are you doing on radio.
You could be making so much.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Money to be in Vegas, I think would be rich.

Speaker 8 (22:14):
Those run of business.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah, so justin let's start with Detroit. Uh, you're not
surprised by this. There was some story who was a
Jeremy Fowler said that he wanted out of Detroit.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Way just his usage was down.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
It was just it seemed like a was this a
mutual understanding, a mutual thing.

Speaker 8 (22:32):
Yeah, I think that's a really good way of classifying it. Look,
Montgomery wanted out at the end of the season. I
think there was some level of public waffling once they
hired Drew Petsing as the offensive coordinator, thinking maybe that
was going to be a move that could bring him back,
just giving the commitment to the run game. But you know,
Brad Holmes I think was very selective with his words
at the combine the other day, saying, look, we love David,

(22:54):
We'd love to have David back. Ultimately, the player also
has to want to be back, and so I think
he was kind of telegraphing that, you know, they had
not reached a point where Montgomery was going to bridge
that gap back and so they did what's spread by
the player It's kind of part of what their culture
has been under this regime is, you know, making sure

(23:15):
the players want to be here, fully bought in. And
so they moved and today I thought they got back
more than could be reasonably expected for a twenty nine
year old running back on a fairly high cost deal.
And they move forward with with Jamir Gibbs is kind
of feature guy, and They'll find a compliment somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
I'll be interested to see, you know, what they decided
to do, because I was telling Rob he was he
was integral. He was then integral piece between him and
Jamir Gibb. But Gibbs, but all of a sudden they
stop using him, and I'm wondering, you can find a piece.
You can find a third, fourth round, fifth round back
that can fill that hole. Because I think that the
offensive line is most important for them right now. If
you look at the lines, what would you say is

(23:52):
the biggest need?

Speaker 8 (23:54):
Oh, it's absolutely the offensive line. And really it boils
down to center. They released Graham Glass got today. That
was another move that was expected, probably their only real
cap casualty that made a lot of sense. And so
they are centerless as we kind of head into free
agency or the draft, or at least a obvious starting candidate.
They've talked about maybe moving Tate Bratledge from guard I

(24:16):
don't think that's a great solution. They picked up Juice
Scrugs in the in the deal from Houston. He's got
some experience there. You know, at least we'll give, if
nothing else camp competition, a really nice versatile backup if
that's where it ends up. But I really expect them
to add a bigger, better player at center, whether it's
in free agency or the draft.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
How about the lines going forward?

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Justin if they don't make the playoffs again this year,
where are we then? What will we what will we
be looking at if if this happens again, Because they
won ten games and didn't make it. There was that
bad loss to Minnesota at home. I think that turned
the season for them, But well, uh, they don't make
the playoffs, what will we be talking about after this?

Speaker 2 (24:59):
After this come season?

Speaker 8 (25:01):
Yeah, it's a it's a really good question, and I
guess I hadn't got that far in my thinking. But
this is a different there's a different standard now play
right right? They got to the doorstep of the Super Bowl,
a couple of years back, they won back to back divisions.
You had multiple playoff first multiple playoff wins, and you've
got a franchise foundation on the roster and guys like

(25:25):
I'm on Rus Saint Brown and a seel Aiden Hutchinson.
You have star power everywhere. And so, yeah, they missed
the playoffs and they do it with you know, what
amounts to a fourth place schedule that should be very
favorable to them next year. It would be pretty shocking,
a disappointing. Obviously, you leave open the caveats if you
lose Jared Goff in Week one to injury, like, it's
a different situation, right, you know, if I had to,

(25:50):
you know, really speculate that far out, Dan Campbell is
probably safe. I think that, you know, he's a little
bit more ingrained in kind of the face of the franchise.
I think there's a little bit more belief in him.
I think there'd be more questions about brat Holmes right now.
You know, he absolutely knocked it out of the park
as he was kind of building this roster early. It's

(26:11):
a little bit easier to do with some of those
high round picks, but he did it all throughout the draft,
he hit a lot of late round picks. It's in
a different phase of roster building now. You can't get
those young picks out there where nobody cares and get
him development on the field. You need to do it
behind the scenes. You have to hit a little bit more.
It's just a different style of evaluation. The last two

(26:31):
drafts haven't hit that way, and at some level it
hasn't been as deep with Nil unless guys coming out
they're drafting later in the draft. But I think he
really needs to get back to his roots and the
college scouting director hit on some of these picks to
rehab an image that's taken a little bit of a
hit here in the last couple of years.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Was it last year or whatever it was like no,
we're good or whatever, like, uh, I know it was
like how it was did he say that it was
all like people, Yeah, not getting people and for oh no,
we're good, you know, And and a lot of people
took that as kind of he was feeling himself that
he didn't feel like he needed to make the team

(27:10):
better last year.

Speaker 8 (27:12):
Well, I think Brad had a lot of quotes, but
that one was definitely not him. Misattributed that was a
Dan Campbell quote, and really I think that was was
a twofold of quote. They were asking about Ed Rusher's
op in Hutchinson. It's a very popular topic in town
for obvious reasons. You want to compliment here superstar, to
take heat off of him. But it was at that
point late in training camp, maybe all the way at

(27:34):
the edge of the season, and they're saying, look, we're
good with the guys we had. It was it was
more of a support of the guys they had because
the reality was they weren't going to be adding anybody
at that stage in the roster. And you know, it
turned out to be pretty true. I mean, they had
a guy in al Quotin Muhammad that was one of
I don't know twelve guys that had double digit sacks
last year. So you know, there's only so many Every

(27:56):
team has holes, right, There's only so many things you
could be You've got a forty five million dollar Edge Rusher,
the highest paid defensive player in NFL history, to said
that contract. You can't go get another Max Crosby. It's
just at some point you have to realize that you
have to patch work a certain spots the roster with
lesser names and have to have those hits. And you
know last year they found that hit in the edge

(28:16):
rusher opposite Hutchinson that they've got to spin that wheel
again because Muhammed's a free agent and Davenport's a free agent,
and so you know, you're kind of back to that
square one and you hope at some point you find
one in the draft that can be that guy that
answered for two, three, four years.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Hey, he is Justin Rogers, longtime Detroit Lions beat Roder,
founder of the Detroit Football Network.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
The Bears kind of come out of the blue. Packers
are kind of the Packers, a typical year for them,
if you will.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
And the Vikings, which is interesting, underachieved.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
We still end up winning nine games despite back quarterback
the one less than the line, That's what I'm saying.
So so credit them for keeping a float, if you will.
But who do you look at going into this next season?
And obviously we have to see how things work out
with the free agency and draft, butts kind of the leader.
Is it the Bears again or the Lions can bounce back?

Speaker 8 (29:05):
No, I think it's a pretty wide open divisions. That's
the beat of it. It's it's kind of gone back
to its black and boom roots, and it's not necessarily
in the physicality of it, although some of that certainly
exists across the division. But there are just four teams
that are I want to say, I'm equal footing. I
think Minnesota's probably a step behind, but that defense is
as good as any in terms of what Brian Flores
is orchestrating over there. I think the Lions and Packers

(29:27):
are probably still the teams to beat, if you're gonna
give me betting odds. I think the Bears are going
to have a little bit of a wake up call
when they get that first place schedule and they have
to play all these tough games. They got a lot
of games where they kind of got by in really tough,
kind of quirky one score situations. But look, Caleb's only
going to get better, and Ben Johnson's only to get better,
you know now that he's got his feet wet as

(29:47):
a head coach. So I really do feel like it's
anybody's ballgame, and we'll see how it shakes out with
how these rosters shape up with free agency and the draft,
There's still a lot to go in the roster building process,
but I think the Green Bay probably just slightly out
of Chicago right now in my mind.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
How about Jared Golf, Uh that that to me was
textbook Jared Golf the big game.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Kelvin and I talked about it when they lost a
playoff game to Washington and I predicted he'd have three
interceptions and Kelvin said, I was extreme, of course, and
he had three interceptions and a fumble. You are, but
that is That's one of the issues, Like Jared Golf
has to play. He can't be that guy in the
postseason that cost his team. How big is this postseason

(30:34):
if they were able to make it and Jared Golf,
if he, you know, has another stinker or has another
situation like we saw, how big is it this year?

Speaker 8 (30:43):
Yeah? Look, we can't excuse that performance.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
It was.

Speaker 8 (30:46):
It was terrible. I don't think he would tell you
anything differently, but I looked back at the preseason previous
and he was damn near perfect and wins over the
Rams and the Bucks that took them to the brink
of the super Bowl. And in that game against Simps,
you take away drops. I mean literal drops and guys
and like Josh Reynolds who don't drop passes, and the

(31:08):
Lion's probably win that game. They were absolutely in control
going in the second half, and the drops kind of
swung the moments of that. So by the narrative that
that Jared Goff can't get it done, I think Young
earlier in his career he was the guy. I saw
his reputation once he was prone to one really big mistake,
big mental error, you know, didn't always bite him. You know,
he could throw a ball right into the arms of

(31:30):
the defender. He's still got to catch it. But I
think you could watch his tape and you can see
like that one class screen, like what are you doing?
All throughout his career, and I think he's swimmed that
way way down to Detroit. Doesn't mean he still doesn't
have those STOs occasionally. I think almost every quarterback does.
But I said the same thing about Matthew Stafford when
he's here, if you put the right talent around him,

(31:51):
he could win a Super Bowl. And I think that
once Matthew Stafford got out of here and got the
right talent around him, and Los Angeles not once, But
I really think that was a Super Bowl colber roster
this year with the Rams as well, he can win
a super Bowl. And I think Goff is in that
same boat. You know, he's not a dual threat. He's
almost some dying breed, right Parkipalliti he is. They're just

(32:11):
many of them in the league. But that's the guy
you said to your horses two. And you know, I
don't think he's quite Drew Breeze or Tom Brady. I
think that would be a pretty big stretch to say that.
But I think Golf has enough accuracy. I think he
has enoughball IQ and can get it done at a
high level that if this team around him is good enough,
it's still a super Bowl contender.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
All Right, We'll have to wait and see. We'll leave
it there. Thank you so much, justin appreciate it, and I
appreciate you. Thank you of course, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
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Speaker 4 (33:07):
Unlike when this used to be a white sports network,
White Sports Wow, Well we got Steve. It is the
odd couple Rob Parker kelvin Washington. I didn't expect Rob G,
Elijah and Mary to turn this into a single long

(33:28):
when I went to go get my water and everything,
they turned it into a single along.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
It is the akup Onomagic City Monday. Thank you to
Justin Rogers joined us. We talked some lines into NFC
North with him, So justin underscore Rogers there, Rob G
will get that up on the pod, We'll get that
up on YouTube. All that good stuff. Right now, it
is time for your tire rack.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Play of the.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Day creeps to us right off the Rudy screen, Dante
on the wing, right back to Ant Five's to shoot.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
He's got a hoist, he launches that heads that's unstoppable.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Hardaway was right in his space and we have just
drained his third three.

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(34:22):
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Speaker 2 (34:28):
All right. On Friday two and one.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
That brings my season record to fifty seven and thirty
six twenty one game. You gets some money over five hundred.
Feeling really good about that. We got two games we're
going to add to this total tonight. Nuggets minus eleven
and a half at the Utah Jazz take the Nuggets
minus eleven and a half. My best bet though, was

(34:53):
the Clippers minus one and a half in San Francisco
taking on the Warriors.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Okay, so there you go.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Clip is minus one and a half in San Francisco,
Nuggets minus eleven and a half on the road in Utah.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
And remember Calvin, Utah ain't trying to win. I'm not
telling you who to bet on what you're telling me.
I'm telling you who I bet on. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
No, my clothes are starting to feel loose already. Okay
one day. First of all, why are you anti water?
By the way, I got this water in? Why like
regular water? Water is added to the lemonade? Myself, it's
still water. God, I don't know what's the different. I
drink water too.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Caps. Make sure.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Your cap daddy today? You mean cap everything? No, he's
I listen.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
We know it's not soda. That's all about. It's water.
And they got lavora but still water.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Why do you have to flavor the water because I
want iced tea and lemonade?

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Just drink water? Are you afraid of it?

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Elijah? Now that was a line? Did you say that
over air? Rob g Thank god? Thank god?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
You know I spent years there doing radio. This is
water barely right?

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, I'll get like water though with a little meo,
a little splash of the meo into little flavor.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I'm not mad at it. That's nasty. So are this water?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
When I wake up every You know, they say you
should have a room temperature. So I have a what
is sixteen point nine ounces? So when I wake up
in the morning, that's what I That's what I drink.
I drink that to start my day room temperature, not
cold water to get today going.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
And then after that you just do all flavored water. No,
I mean it used to be dyed coked.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah this listen, man, well we will take this. Come on,
you don't get it twisted. I am we will take this.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
I got fifty one pounds to lose in the next
six months, five and a half months.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
So are you in Matt strict mode like this Friday? Hey,
we're watching the games. Come pull up at b dubs
or whatever like you?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
You?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
You and you you locked in right now? Are you
still withdraw? Remember you said you're gonna be withdraw shaking.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
I'm already going to be shaking like I already know it.
But it's okay, listen, I'm not mad at you.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
I'm still trying to get my summer situation right, you know,
get it where I needed to be, Miss Mary, Matt.
I was beyond me. You know when I go with
my breaks. I got my little whole work out. Come
in there with me, Rob.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
For your elbows. But you can be sweating this expensive
short I got on. You know what I'm saying. I
can't do a lot.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
See that's how it starts. That's how it starts. What
are you doing? This is real too. This is the
one you got that baby daddy Birdberry shirt on. What
are you talking about? That's the baby shower. That actually
is the baby shower.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
For the dude who never dresses up and he finally
gets something that that is that is that's the baby down.
That is definitely the kids first day like it's the
baby is.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Going to school and teaching the future journalists of this
the baby shower wanting to look present.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
No, no, this shirt is nice, but she's right that
that's like the dude who never dresses up, who's jersey
and T shirt guy every day?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
But let's fly though one of my favorite shirts. We
can tell I like it though. I like it, Mary,
you know what she on your head too. I'm gonna
have to come in there, and if I do.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
If you're going there, get on the workout ball. I
got the ball in there, I got the dumb bell.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Mary's gonna be on the workout ball if I go in.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, Robber GI used to wherever having my elastic bands?
Did I break them? What happened to my elastic bands?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Robber? Did you tell Mary?

Speaker 4 (38:37):
I know you guys are doing exercise everything except the show.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yeah, listen between.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Bridge corner involved in ice tea. You know that you
have to have water to make ice tea. Hey, I
tell you what the NFL is lying. If you're asking
me about a particular draft prospect, I tell you who next.
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