December 8, 2025 • 39 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Caleb Williams showed in the Bears’ loss to Green Bay that he’s the weakest link in Chicago, and tell us why the Baltimore Ravens have every right to be upset with the NFL officials. Plus, former Pro Bowl wide receiver and Up on Game co-host TJ Houshmandzadeh swings by to discuss the fall of the Kansas City Chiefs, Caleb’s biggest problem in Chicago, why the Indianapolis Colts are seriously considering bringing Philip Rivers out of retirement, and much more!
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Speaker 3 (01:55):
That's right, dude, very nice.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
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Speaker 4 (02:04):
Did you what else you get to do while you
were in the d by the way, anything else you
get to run by.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Your fraside to d Yeah, I went to the barbershop,
you know, hung out, gotta cut, Yeah, you know, see everybody.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, it was a good little vision.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
It was cold, though, that's good. That's good, yes, dude,
it's that's the one thing. You Listen.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
We paid the high taxes. We can play this expensive
out here in California. But the fact that it's seventy
four or five six seven degrees wherever you are in
LA that's the reason.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Why we're here, man. For sure.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
It's also cold in the shy Chicago as well, we had,
of course a big game, divisional game route We had
the Packers and the Bears going at it in a
game that those two are tops of the NFC right now,
Rob g.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
This is a tough division.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
We knew it would be coming into last year, going
into this season as well, and to our surprise to
a lot of people, at least the Bears are leading it.
But not a good game for the Bears as a whole,
specifically Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Well, they were leading. It is a thing.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
They were ranked number one of the NFC heading into
Sunday's game against the Green Bay Packers. With that loss,
they fell all the way to seven. That's how tightly
bunch things are in the NFC. In fact, all of
the analytics projections say that with that loss, the Bears
are now projected to miss the playoffs entirely. This forty
eight hours after being number one in the conference. There's
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a lot about what's going on there. And it really was,
as you mentioned, a tale of two halves for Kayler Williams,
because he started off quite frankly, just terribly all right
in the first half.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Like Patrick Mahomes go ahead in the first half six
of fourteen thirty two passing yards, but that he's been
known to do. Really turned it up there in the
second half. One hundred and sixty four total yards, two touchdowns,
one hundred and twenty one passer rating.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
A just a completion rate of eighty six point four percent.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
That is, until his very very last pass of the game,
fourth down, rather than taking the first down, goes for
it all in the end zone, intercepted to seal the
game and the loss for Chicago.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, and listen, this is where to me as they
head into the end of the season, and this is
where we're gonna also see what they're really made of.
A couple of things to note. We talk about this
all the time, Rob and I Rob Gidat. You got
to play who's in front of you, right. You can't
control the schedule when they make it months in advance.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
But ways we talked about it with the Bears.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
The reason why I haven't been sold on them is
because of how they look throughout this season. You look
back at some of these games and they barely beat
teams that you're supposed to destroy. To be when you
look at them as the number one seed the NFC,
they beat your Raiders by one. They beat the Commanders
by one, both Stame's exact score twenty five to twenty four.
They go on to barely beat the Bengals. They barely
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beat the Giants by four. I mean, they barely beat
the Vikings again by two. So they they go on
and on and on, and when they play the quality
teams they have lost.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
They got a great.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Win, absolutely good win for them when they beat the
Eagles halful of weeks ago, so definitely credit there.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
But this is where it two.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Weeks ago in Philadelphia, one ways ago, two weeks ago.
That was before they played this guy.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Wait, that's what you jumped.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I said a few you said to okay two weeks ago, yes, okay, okay.
Because because this argument and what you're about to talk abouticulous,
you relax your off and let you please turn off.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
My god, I've never heard.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Anything like this. Why you so emotional?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Because because because what you right? What was one for
every weekend bull pit and here you talk about they
only won Williams, not Caleb Parker.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
His name is not only one by points every game
last is this is play off. Guess what happened?
Speaker 5 (05:59):
This is lost?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
They lost this.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Is where I don't why you're so emotional because he's
not one of your mentees.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
He's not one of your mentees. He's not you don't
know him. You don't know him.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You can relax. You get so fired up. I sit
up there and let you go about the Chiefs. It
was okay, you jump right in.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Look at you.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Why I don't understand why you get so emotional. It's
so kay relapsed. Who's saw Rob? You can let me go.
Then you can talk as well. And it's the same.
This is why you're hilarious to be Rob. The level
of hypocrisy is entertaining to me because you sit up
here and talk about where's the losses? Yet the Lions
went fifteen and two last year. Every week you found
a reason why they weren't good. The Chiefs went fifteen
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and two last year. You talked about every single reason
why good. And then you talk about the stealers and
they'll barely win games, and well they did this, what
they did this? Then Kayler Williams, we can't criticize Caleb, No,
we can't. We can criticize Patrick and this person and
Jared Goff and Matthew Stafford, but we can't criticize Kayler
Williams so as I was steady before I was so
rudely interrupted.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
They barely beat bad teams. That is where.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Myself and some others will say, I don't know how
I feel about the Bears. They're badly beating the bad teams.
And then you say, but credit them for Hey, you
beat who's on the schedule. And if you start to
look at why you I am concerned to why I
feel like there's still a lot of room to be
designed for them to get better, is because the poor
performance from Kayleb Williams. We just talked about how bad
he looked in the first half of that game. We
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talked about We've talked about where he has been throughout
this season. He has terrible passes. You're talking about on target.
He's one of the worst in that he's thirty fourth,
there's only thirty two starting quarterbacks in completion percentage at
fifty seven right now. He also is eighteenth in QBU rating,
he's nineteenth in QBR and he is eleventh in passing guard.
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So my issue has simply been for them, their ceiling
where they could be a legitimate one seed at NFC
is if Kayleb could play up to what we expected
from him, coming in the greatest prospect since since Andrew Lock,
a Heisman Trophy winner. He has an offense coordinator, Guru
and Ben Johnson, and yet he himself has not looked
great and the offense as a whole hasn't looked great.
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So it's okay to criticize him. That's all I'm doing.
It's saying I want him to improve. I want him
to stop having these horrible first halves or horrible second
halves all the time, and I want to see him
get better.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
And I thought this would be to him able to
do this now.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
He might be able to do this next year, a
couple seasons under his belt with Ben Johnson will have
to see. But as of right now, including Ben Johnson,
who is acknowledged, their passing game is what's holding them back.
Last yesterday was another example of the passing game that's
holding them back. And they had a chance to really
put a coffin on this thing and say we are
the best team in the NFC, and they fell short
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and he was Alex as.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
They call it, you are the weak to think.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
He was the.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Weakest league on that Bears team and that's okay, Rob,
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Are you done?
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Good?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Once again, just ridiculous coming off the game they played
in Philadelphia, you act like he had and played any
games he has brought that team back.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
He was let me talk, got off the mic and
let you talk. Did I not?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I took my mic off, yes, so let me talk now.
I was quiet. I let you go ahead with your spiel. Okay,
did I not? I didn't want to interrupt you, so
I let you go. The whole idea that you're gonna
sit here when this guy had won four games when
they had no business to win, and when he made
some big throws and some big plays even in this game,
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he got them back in and played well in the
second half, and you're talking about the first half. But
you'll you'll, you'll celebrate your door Sanders throwing touchdowns or
losing to the Titans.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But you're gonna sit there about Caleb.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Williams in games where did they were seven point underdogs
in Green Bay?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It would have been unbelievable for them to.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Go on the road and win in Philadelphia and win
in Green Bay back to back, and they we were
in the game and that last play, I knew they
were gonna throw that ball in the end zone and
it was what fifty to fifty ball where you might
come down with it and win the game, or it
was gonna be an interception. I wasn't even shocked that
that was the play call because that's what they normally
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do is throw the ball in the end zone on
that Everybody on a short yardages is up close. So
what they do is like, Yo, we're gonna go and
and try. We got space in the end zone, let's
go for it. And that's what happened. He threw the pick.
He doesn't throw a lot of picks. I'm so tired.
It's still about winning. He's a young quarterback, but you
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make it like he's terrible and every week or every chance.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
They just had a big game in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And right away because they lose by seven points to
Green Bay when they were seven point underdown, he's the
worst quarterback and he's the weakest link. That's your take
on Caleb Williams. Tell me that they should bench him
or cut him. If you want to have a strong
take on Caleb Williams coming on every other week and saying.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh you didn't play well in the week. It's link
on the bean.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So what if they won nine games where nobody even
had them being into the playoffs. Nobody picked them to
go in the playoffs or to have nine wins this year.
And to sit around and act like he's disappointed when
they're disappointed Chicago and the Bears because they're nine and
four is outrageous to me.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
That's what I can't understand. That's the part.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You act like like there was some high, lofty expectations.
Show me the preseason predictions that had them going to
the super Bowl. Kingo who had them win in the division,
had them going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
But they're still there in the hunt for the division.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You're acting like people had them to be three and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But I'm saying, I'm they're half a game out Green.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So so I can't You can do whatever you want.
You can do whatever you want, but I could be
critical of you a f on the Greek right, So yeah,
go ahead, do what you want, just like I was
critical of you and the Cheefe when you made your
your parade for Patrick Mahomes and they're going to the
super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
He's the m v P.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I told you then it wasn't happening. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
The reason why, the reason why I don't listen to
you because you said because you said the listen to
your right.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So you said it all last year, right stop? Literally
did I told you?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah? You did. I told you what the chief the
super Bowl? I did not. You literally didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
This is the difference between you can admit it.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
That's be.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Every week get the pit. I did not pay them
every week. No he did twelve out or whatever week.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
No, I did not. I didn't piss him to lose
every week.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Shop So you do know Rob keeps tracking I do,
and I know I didn't pick him every week against them.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
So I don't know when you're right, Rock because you
pick against them every week.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
What I'm telling you they fIF I told you by
the games, I told you, No, I told you told
you the thing I told you was to a thing.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I told you that the Lions weren't going to the
super Bowl and the Chiefs weren't going to win the
super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
That's what I told you all year. I didn't care
what the record was.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Okay, okay, right.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
You are the weak to think.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
The Bears have won four They got four wins this
season after trailing, Right, this is this is the guy
who's so bad team.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
It doesn't matter. That's about coming back, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Because they could have been losses. They could have been lost,
and he looks bad against the chance.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Your wins this season after trailing at some point in
the final two minutes of the fourth.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Quarter, you read no, let me say this, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's the fourth Right, it's the most wins of any
of the season since nineteen seventy, since the merger. That
doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You don't win games in the final two minutes in
the fourth quarter since nineteen seventy. What are you talking about?
That's what I'm trying to figure out. What you're acting
like it happens all the time.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
No, what's funny about that is again the selective of
when winning close games matters. So everybody else wins a
close game, they shouldn't be winning as it's fugazy.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
They win close games now, it's great.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
And also you're talking about games that a lot of
times he dugged them in the hole.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
He dugged him in the hole, just like he dug
him in the hole yesterday.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Versus the Packers, and he tried to dig him out
play good, really good.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
In the second half.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Absolutely, no, I have no problem in that, but also
was a large contributor as to why they were in
the hole in the first place. And again, you ain't
got to take my word for it, take his own
coaches word for it.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
So he should be benched, right A cut? No what
you're saying, why not I'm terrible because I don't quarters
was terrible.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I don't have to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
You say it's terrible to Why don't you get on,
have to take it, take a stand on something, say
you should be cut.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
You can't play the middle of the fence the middle
of the time.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
No, you can't do it.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Literally stand stand, put your hand off to hate your
hand up.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
You don't have to be in the middle. Rout cut
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, cut, Yeah, cause that no go viral.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Oh if that's going viral, then I have no intention
of going viral saying some crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, they said I was crazy when I said the
Chiefs weren't gonna make the playoffs either.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
That went viral well, and I was a bad guy.
I was washed. I didn't know what I was talking
about he can't.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Get it for clicks. He can't get it for it.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Clicks because he hates Patrick Mahomes and he hates greatness
and he hates he can't be true.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
And then none of.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
You still hate Patrick Mahomes and they ate.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I hate Patrick Mahomes for I don't hate Patrick Mahomes,
just don't think he's no.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
What they say.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
He was Jordan as Chris Bussa and I Rob ge
how much did we fight about that? And you know what,
Chris might be finally right? He is, uh Jordan ess
the Wizards, Yes he is.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Pulls that run absolutely was Jordan. I get the point.
Career wise, it ain't over.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Obviously, Mike played his whole career, but that stretch he
had was amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Patrick Mahomes eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight
seven seven nine nine to six sixty three sixty nine.
Did yesterday prove that Cayleb Williams is the weakest is
the weak link at Chicago? According to Kelvin. We'll continue
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Speaker 5 (17:43):
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calls quickly.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Kayla Williams says, E the weeke is late for the
Chicago Bears eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox or
sax of calls?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Rop who we got Harrow and Chicago. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Harrow?
Speaker 9 (17:57):
That's up? Guy's nine time caller, longtime. I'm going to
stop at ten, but I'm an.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
We appreciate you, my man and the support.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
We do appreciate you.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Guys.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
You know, uh tell me you are crazy? How is
Caleb the weakest link on the Bears? We give up
like thirty points a game. We can't every game ends
like twenty six to twenty five. Caleb is a half
the reason or winning. Does He needs to improve? Absolutely?
But is he the weakest link? He's far from the
weakest links. There's like ten things that are weaker than
Caleb on the Bears right now, and Caleb is Yeah.
(18:30):
I wouldn't call Caaleb a week length. I called Caleb,
a second year quarterback. That's developing fine.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Which is all we asked for us.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
We're ahead of schedule giving our artist.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
But that's it all right.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I'm with you, appreciate it. I think you spot on
there Mike in Peoria, Illinois. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
What's up, Mike.
Speaker 10 (18:52):
Oh great to be back with you. Yes, du time
of our trashure every night.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
This love it go ahead, my.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
Hey, just like the caller in front of me, said
Caleb Williams. Is not the weakest link. The weak of
f link by far on the Chicago Bears is a
defensive front. Twenty fifth and sacks. After the Bears tied
the game up at twenty one, you gotta get a stop,
thank you. Pressure on the quarterback. You can't let him
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go up twenty eight to twenty one. Maybe a field
goal and then you come down and win the game
or send it in overtime or whatever. But the Bears
have no presence on a defensive front. Give me as
Chris Jones type of animal on the front front line.
Give me something on the defensive front. That's the leaks link.
Just ask Jill Flackau how hard it was to put
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up four hundred and seventy yards against the Bears or
whatever he did.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Come on, here's my response to you.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
There's got response. They are leading the league in takeaways.
They are staffed twenty seven or four more than any
other team. I'm not acting like they're the Three Bucks
or some Ravens. We know that, but they absolutely have
the takeaways. And I talked about this the other day.
They give him a chance. Total defense bottom ten.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Those are your stats to those of the feelings.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
No, no, the fact, No, they're giving him the ball.
No wakeaways, give you the ball back.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But they also once he tied this once he once
he got them tied, what happened. They went to the Packers,
got the ball, went right down field.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's way he tied the game in Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I'm not saying they're the Bucks, Rod, I'm not sitting
there saying they're the greatest defense.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Ever.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
What I'm saying is Viki bottom two more takeaways than
anybody else.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Four That a lot of opportunity for did any other team?
That's huge?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Barb in Illinois, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Barb?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Hey, Barb, are.
Speaker 11 (20:52):
You going great?
Speaker 8 (20:53):
How are you good?
Speaker 11 (20:55):
It's cold here though?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Can I say this, Barb? And I mean this on
the song on a song, tip baby, it's cold outside
because I was in Detroit in New York this past week.
Speaker 11 (21:06):
And I know you were, and what happened? Who won there?
It was great?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Oh yeah, Bob, don't hurt me now with that.
Speaker 11 (21:14):
Okay, the Bears are so improved this year. I'll tell
you I am not a Bear fan. I am a
Packer fan, but I will admit Caleb has improved. And
yesterday people aren't going to like this Ben Jonson with
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the weakest link.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Wow, go ahead, Barb, to give us why why you
did so? I'm want to hear this.
Speaker 11 (21:41):
He just made some calls that just didn't go over.
I mean, you guys watched the game, right, yep? Okay,
what happened in the last few seconds of the game?
Who was wide open? And who did Caleb myths?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I didn't see it.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I remember exactly who who was?
Speaker 11 (22:02):
But go ahead, Barb, no, I'm listening to you. Go ahead,
all right. Sorry for my voice the cold.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Gear, all right, thanks for the Thank you, Bob. You
can have a cold. It's cold out there, get better, Barb.
We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
One last call, Drew in New Jersey. You on the
couple Finds Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
What's up, Drew?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
How are you?
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (22:24):
Guys? I think that we've kind of seen this from
a Bears quarterback recently. Did everyone remember year or two
of Mitchell for this year when they brought in the
coach and then they revamped the offense and he had.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
A good year.
Speaker 12 (22:37):
I see. I see Caleb Williams as the Karl Anthony
Towns of the NBA, always always leaving you wanting more.
He has all the tools that just for some reason
you can't.
Speaker 10 (22:49):
Put it together.
Speaker 12 (22:50):
And I mean, yeah, that's kind of that's kind of
where I'm at. I think that top five quarterback, but
I think there's some years where he is maybe top ten,
which Karlin Towns.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
All right, that's not a curry of comparison. Damn was
lookingike to that. I'm not mad at that. I get
what you're saying right there. Thanks appreciate, Yeah, thank you, Drew,
appreciate the call.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
All right.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
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Speaker 5 (23:29):
All right, Chris, appreciate you, Man.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
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Speaker 5 (23:35):
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Speaker 5 (23:41):
Hoo's what up?
Speaker 8 (23:42):
Brother, godoring man?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
We're good?
Speaker 5 (23:45):
How you we're good?
Speaker 8 (23:46):
Man?
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (23:47):
I can't complain, can't complain one bit.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Better than Patrick Mahomes. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Oh yeah, you know they struggling a bit. That's struggling
a bit.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Let's do this his last four games one to don
six interceptions and you can talk about it all. Oh
the receivers, Come on, dude, why at your receiver.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
You're a former receiver. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
If a receiver drops one, it's about you hurting the quarterback.
How many times did you save quarterbacks with a great catch?
Some of those balls that Mahomes threw weren't great they
were behind the receivers.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Come on, hush.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
It goes hand in hand, like there's gonna be certain
times where there's bad balls and you make a great
play on it, and there's gonna be other times where.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
You drop a ball.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
It happens. But I've never seen fourteen for he completed
hundred fifty percent of his passes. Pat Mahomes, that is
unheard of.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
His numbers are ridiculously bad. And whush.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I just sent you the video because I was hoping
you could see it before you came on. I'm saying
the reason that they're not making the playoffs is because
of Patrick mahone homes one hundred percent. Everybody claimed when
they got his receivers back, right, Oh, Rice and Worthy, right, Oh,
(25:11):
he's going to be right. He's going to be enough
the MVP race. He's going to get them to the
super Bowl if he gets his receivers back. That's what
I was told.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He has the.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Seventh best defense and he has Andy Reid as a coach,
and his numbers are bad. They're offensively awful, and that's
why they are where they are, which is under five hundred.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
It's been a huge struggle for the Chiefs youth, and
we're not used to seeing it. That's the thing. We're
just not used to seeing this from Kansas City, not
with Pat Mahomes and Andy Reid, you know, calling the shots,
so to speak. We just hadn't seen.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
How shocked were you that they went for it on
their own thirty one? It's a one score game. The
Texans didn't do anything in the second half. Why why
was he compelled to feel like they couldn't beat the
Texans offensively that they had to go for it in
that situation?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Were you shocked?
Speaker 8 (26:10):
I was shocked, and that shows me he felt like
the pressure was on. The pressure was on, and so
he felt like, I don't have a choice.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Really, that's crazy.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
He didn't He felt like he didn't have a choice.
Very simple. He felt like he didn't have a choice,
and so he did that.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah here, but oh go ahead, Rob, what real quick?
You keep saying he's like one and six? He has
five touchdowns? He had four on Thanksgiving. I don't know where,
like where you keep saying getting that number from, by
the way, just throwing I don't get that part, TJ.
Let me go to some other guys. We got the
Ravens lose a big one to the Steelers. We'll talk
about it a little bit more as far as the
(26:53):
actual uh to play at the end there, But.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Arno Rave, what do you do now with the Ravens?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
There's still because that division is so poorly right now?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
But what is up with Lamar?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Everybody kind of thought they come back, they right at
the ship for a handful of games.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Now they look bad.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
What do you make of the Ravens as we have
a handful of games left to end this season?
Speaker 8 (27:14):
When you look at Baltimore, it's like, how are they
losing what at least the team that we thought was
going to contend for a Super Bowl. Defensively, they're just Lamar.
They not playing great on offense, They're not running the ball,
obviously not throwing the ball. Well, it's just been a
complete struggle for the Ravens all year. I mean, let's
(27:36):
just call it for what it is. They've struggled all
year long, and you think because of Lamar Jackson, because
of Humbball, they're gonna turn it around, and it just
doesn't look like that's possible. It doesn't. It doesn't look
possible at all. And so for the first time in
a long time. We are going to see the AFC
look a lot different, right, and so that's a good thing.
(27:59):
It's a good thing.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Is it not hurt? Though?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Is he hurt? What are we watching here?
Speaker 5 (28:03):
TJ?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You watch him?
Speaker 8 (28:05):
No? I can't.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I'm just asking because he looks and and and the
other one is the touchdown at the end.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
How is that not a touchdown? What am I missing?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
So I could touch the pylon, I could break the plane.
But if I'm a receiver and I catch the ball
and take two and a half steps, uh, and then
the guy strips the ball and knocks it down, it's
not a touchdown.
Speaker 10 (28:31):
I thought that.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
I think anybody watching football, anybody associated with football.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
That's a touchdown.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
We all thought that's a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Commentation thought it was a touchdown.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
I'm gonna say everybody thought like, how is that not
a touchdown? More like, how do you not call that
a touchdown? It should be the question? Right, I thought
it was a touchdown. The fact that it wasn't called
a touchdown is somewhat mind boggling to me. If you
ask me, I clear, you catch it, you're trying to
(29:06):
keep it away from the defender. You get two feet
down touchdown. But the official sol otherwise than what can
you do?
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah, I don't understand that one right there. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
You got to do the cupid shuffling the end zone
two steps? Ain't it no more? We're on t J
who Smazada on with the Yacopa. Robert Kelvin on the
Magic City Monday. I want to go to the game
of watching right now. The Eagles just scored to make
it seven to three. The Chargers are up. Rob and
I both agreed that they have to have this win.
It's not that their season's over, but they want to
get back on the right side of things.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Been struggling lately.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
And then boom, right off the bat, the Chargers go
down and get a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
What do you make of the.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Eagle season and the struggles? Like, how do you right
the ship for them? It's been a strange season the
entire season.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
It's when you look at the Eagles scene Super Bowl
winner last year, pretty much the same exact team coming back,
and the one constant or the one different that isn't
coming back was offensive coordinator Kelling Moore. And so you
have to put this on Kevin Petullo. He is the
(30:09):
new guy, and the new guy hasn't done his job,
so to speak. Yet you're on staff, but you're the
new guy. As far as calling place, he hasn't done
his job. And people can say, oh, Jalen hurt it.
Jalen Hurst did well with Kelling Moore and so he.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Was a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
This has to fall on Kevin Petullo. And think about this.
If I'm Nick Sirianni and we're struggling like this and
I'm an offensive guyka if you my guy, but I
got this, I'm taking over. That's what I'm doing. I'm
not gonna keep letting you take this criticism. I'm gonna
take over and see if we can write the ship.
The fact that he hasn't done that, it's kind of
like hmm to me.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
How about the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I mean, Philip Rivers really is getting a try out
with Joe Naviath not available?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Come on, seriously, TJ.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No other quarterback who played major college football who's sitting
at home or sitting on the sidelines waiting for a
phone call to get.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Ready that they got to go to Philip Rivers.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Who is nominated for the Hall of Fame Rock who.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Has to get fifteen babysitters to watch his kids in
order to play.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I don't get it.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
They want a guy that they feel like can be comfortable.
Has it been four or five years since he's the
last late it's four or five life.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, yeah, And the last time we saw him there
in Indianapolis it was a disaster. So what do we
look at We're thinking that he's gotten better five years
four or five years later. I don't get it.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
It's risky business. But you know this, you know what happened.
They called them, Hey, Phil, you've been thought, Oh yeah, yeah,
I'm slinging this thing. Man, I'm ready to go. All right,
we're just gonna confirm this by bringing you in for
a workout. That's a tough situation if you're the coach,
But think about this, man, the coach have a chance
to get into the playoffs. They've struggled in previous years,
(32:04):
and so they're doing what they can and just just
shows me, like Anthony Richison, either he isn't coming back
or they don't trust him to come back and help him,
and so they're like, hey, we got a chance to
get in the playoffs. We've got exhaust all resources. So
I don't fault them for it. But at Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
But I'm just saying this. Nobody else is all. I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
Whoso else, there's nobody anybody else? You pick up right now.
They not gonna have the resume of a Philip Rivers.
They at home for a reason. They at home for
a reason.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
And Philip Rivers is also his resume. He hadn't want anything.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I get the numbers he's put up and the years
he's played. I just don't understand. I didn't even know
you were allowed to have a wheelchair on this field
during the game.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Hey rob Man, I probably this is why you so
great at what you do. Boy, you so quick, You're
so witty, witty man. And if Philip Rivers can all
they need to listen, if they can just win one game,
they only need to really win one maybe two games
and the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, they don't have to win.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
Everybody, everybody that's chasing them to chieves. The Dolphins, the Ravens.
They just gotta win one maybe two games and they
are in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
They're in a position that they don't need that's to
win three games.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
I'm still with you on that.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
In the coach you need this, what you need this? Playoffs?
You need it.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
They never wish they had a Jamis Winston so bad
in their life right now, he would be the perfect
person in this situation. And we appreciate it. DJ as always,
my man, Thank you man.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
Y'all take take care of keep up the great work
as always.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
No doubt, man, that river ain't run dry. Rob Philip,
we both choked when we have Philip.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Rivers the world.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Hey, we we actually agree on something that happened from
that game with the Ravens.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
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I were just talking about it with whosh Man. It
was circa It felt almost like that you were probably covering.
And of course that Megatron catch with the Bears or
everybody's like, oh, that's a touchdown and they don't call
it a catch. No catch, the does Bryant catch, He's
so stupid, the des Bryant one, where you know, everybody's like, oh,
(35:10):
that's a catch, Like no catch. It's the weirdest thing
when your own eyes, all of us watching football, our
whole lives, and kind of universally the commentators, everybody's oh, yeah, catch, Okay,
what do you to do?
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Now?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Do they do this?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
You like, move on because it's clearly a catch, and
then they just like no catch reviewing it.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
You're like, wait, what like that?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I don't even understand, Like to he held it out
so he couldn't get it, took it two two, three steps.
He finally knocks it out. But you see that happen
all the time where the fender's mad, you know what
I mean, he kind of like knocks it out his hand.
So that that was huge. That was a huge one,
right there, A huge mistake in my.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Opinion, it's I don't know. I think the referees have
have stopped with just the logical eye test.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I mean, he's taken two steps.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Why couldn't you hit the pie line not being bounds right,
just hit the pieline? They score that you break the plane.
How many times do we see the ball get loose
after they break the plane at the goal?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I don't even.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Understand it, Like that's good, He's clearly in the end
zone step one two and a half. And now the
guy reaches to knock the ball out and they call
that a note catch. I just I don't know how
anybody at the NFL watching that, who's ever in charge
of referees or league officials or whoever can look at
(36:33):
that and go, what are we doing like that? That
that cannot happen. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
And especially too, it wasn't like you you know how
you see a receiver jump in the air, maybe land
a cup and like, but the defenders also going for
the ball. And let's say he stripped it that way,
he held it so far out like almost like a
nine and nine a nine nine, like you couldn't get it.
I just see I was blown on it. And then
on top of that, the meaning fullness of that game,
(37:01):
right if you're Lamar Jackson in ra.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Happens to Lamar a lot. I just it's mind boggling
to me.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Like somebody's tight ends.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Man, It's like but.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's always like some some some play you know what
I mean? Where you look at it. Even the game
a couple of weeks ago, well, no was it? Did
they play things?
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Thanksgiving? Lively lost the one again and the uh there.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Were two there were two touchdowns that they had that
came off the board or whatever in that game.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
I told Rob g earlier.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
It reminded me of when the Packers throw a touchdown?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Who is that against?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I just forgot was that against the Yeah, yeah, and
they let they let him come down and let the
guy rustle the ball after he already landed down, and
he rustled the ball out of it and they gave
the ball to Seattle, Like.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Yeah, the fail Mary remember that. Yeah, he caught the ball.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
He landed, the guys right right, the guys rustling him
on the ground for the ball.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
I was like, wow, I never saw that.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
No, that was crazy, the fail me.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
And this is after he had about seven help marys
against the Lions in like two years.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I sold her like one thrown seventy yards in Ford Field.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
I know the craziest thing about that throw.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
That was the most pinpoint accurate hail may meeting like,
and it looked like.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
I'm just heaving.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
It looked like he's like all right the corner, like
like a real throw, not just a hail Mary. That
was when I was like, all right, this dude is
beyond different.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
He might be.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
At that point for me, I was, Okay, he's on
another level of just pure under like talent that we've
seen in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
But but yeah, I thought it was a.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Miscall to me recently, especially the last two three weeks
there's been a handful of games some really weird calls
where commentators themselves are like, oh, that's a touch on
our that's an interception, that's whatever the play may be.
And they've been overturning of some really some strainedes strange
ones throughout the last handful of weeks.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
From my opinion, all right on the other side, Josh Allen,
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Speaker 3 (01:55):
That's right, dude, very nice.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
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Speaker 4 (02:04):
Did you what else you get to do while you
were in the d by the way, anything else you
get to run by.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Your fraside to d Yeah, I went to the barbershop,
you know, hung out, gotta cut, Yeah, you know, see everybody.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, it was a good little vision.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
It was cold, though, that's good. That's good, yes, dude,
it's that's the one thing. You Listen.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
We paid the high taxes. We can play this expensive
out here in California. But the fact that it's seventy
four or five six seven degrees wherever you are in
LA that's the reason.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Why we're here, man. For sure.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
It's also cold in the shy Chicago as well, we had,
of course a big game, divisional game route We had
the Packers and the Bears going at it in a
game that those two are tops of the NFC right now,
Rob g.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
This is a tough division.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
We knew it would be coming into last year, going
into this season as well, and to our surprise to
a lot of people, at least the Bears are leading it.
But not a good game for the Bears as a whole,
specifically Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Well, they were leading. It is a thing.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
They were ranked number one of the NFC heading into
Sunday's game against the Green Bay Packers. With that loss,
they fell all the way to seven. That's how tightly
bunch things are in the NFC. In fact, all of
the analytics projections say that with that loss, the Bears
are now projected to miss the playoffs entirely. This forty
eight hours after being number one in the conference. There's
(03:24):
a lot about what's going on there. And it really was,
as you mentioned, a tale of two halves for Kayler Williams,
because he started off quite frankly, just terribly all right
in the first half.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Like Patrick Mahomes go ahead in the first half six
of fourteen thirty two passing yards, but that he's been
known to do. Really turned it up there in the
second half. One hundred and sixty four total yards, two touchdowns,
one hundred and twenty one passer rating.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
A just a completion rate of eighty six point four percent.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
That is, until his very very last pass of the game,
fourth down, rather than taking the first down, goes for
it all in the end zone, intercepted to seal the
game and the loss for Chicago.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, and listen, this is where to me as they
head into the end of the season, and this is
where we're gonna also see what they're really made of.
A couple of things to note. We talk about this
all the time, Rob and I Rob Gidat. You got
to play who's in front of you, right. You can't
control the schedule when they make it months in advance.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
But ways we talked about it with the Bears.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
The reason why I haven't been sold on them is
because of how they look throughout this season. You look
back at some of these games and they barely beat
teams that you're supposed to destroy. To be when you
look at them as the number one seed the NFC,
they beat your Raiders by one. They beat the Commanders
by one, both Stame's exact score twenty five to twenty four.
They go on to barely beat the Bengals. They barely
(04:51):
beat the Giants by four. I mean, they barely beat
the Vikings again by two. So they they go on
and on and on, and when they play the quality
teams they have lost.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
They got a great.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Win, absolutely good win for them when they beat the
Eagles halful of weeks ago, so definitely credit there.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
But this is where it two.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Weeks ago in Philadelphia, one ways ago, two weeks ago.
That was before they played this guy.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Wait, that's what you jumped.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I said a few you said to okay two weeks ago, yes, okay, okay.
Because because this argument and what you're about to talk abouticulous,
you relax your off and let you please turn off.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
My god, I've never heard.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Anything like this. Why you so emotional?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Because because because what you right? What was one for
every weekend bull pit and here you talk about they
only won Williams, not Caleb Parker.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
His name is not only one by points every game
last is this is play off. Guess what happened?
Speaker 5 (05:59):
This is lost?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
They lost this.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Is where I don't why you're so emotional because he's
not one of your mentees.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
He's not one of your mentees. He's not you don't
know him. You don't know him.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You can relax. You get so fired up. I sit
up there and let you go about the Chiefs. It
was okay, you jump right in.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Look at you.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Why I don't understand why you get so emotional. It's
so kay relapsed. Who's saw Rob? You can let me go.
Then you can talk as well. And it's the same.
This is why you're hilarious to be Rob. The level
of hypocrisy is entertaining to me because you sit up
here and talk about where's the losses? Yet the Lions
went fifteen and two last year. Every week you found
a reason why they weren't good. The Chiefs went fifteen
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and two last year. You talked about every single reason
why good. And then you talk about the stealers and
they'll barely win games, and well they did this, what
they did this? Then Kayler Williams, we can't criticize Caleb, No,
we can't. We can criticize Patrick and this person and
Jared Goff and Matthew Stafford, but we can't criticize Kayler
Williams so as I was steady before I was so
rudely interrupted.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
They barely beat bad teams. That is where.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Myself and some others will say, I don't know how
I feel about the Bears. They're badly beating the bad teams.
And then you say, but credit them for Hey, you
beat who's on the schedule. And if you start to
look at why you I am concerned to why I
feel like there's still a lot of room to be
designed for them to get better, is because the poor
performance from Kayleb Williams. We just talked about how bad
he looked in the first half of that game. We
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talked about We've talked about where he has been throughout
this season. He has terrible passes. You're talking about on target.
He's one of the worst in that he's thirty fourth,
there's only thirty two starting quarterbacks in completion percentage at
fifty seven right now. He also is eighteenth in QBU rating,
he's nineteenth in QBR and he is eleventh in passing guard.
(07:44):
So my issue has simply been for them, their ceiling
where they could be a legitimate one seed at NFC
is if Kayleb could play up to what we expected
from him, coming in the greatest prospect since since Andrew Lock,
a Heisman Trophy winner. He has an offense coordinator, Guru
and Ben Johnson, and yet he himself has not looked
great and the offense as a whole hasn't looked great.
(08:07):
So it's okay to criticize him. That's all I'm doing.
It's saying I want him to improve. I want him
to stop having these horrible first halves or horrible second
halves all the time, and I want to see him
get better.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
And I thought this would be to him able to
do this now.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
He might be able to do this next year, a
couple seasons under his belt with Ben Johnson will have
to see. But as of right now, including Ben Johnson,
who is acknowledged, their passing game is what's holding them back.
Last yesterday was another example of the passing game that's
holding them back. And they had a chance to really
put a coffin on this thing and say we are
the best team in the NFC, and they fell short
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and he was Alex as.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
They call it, you are the weak to think.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
He was the.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Weakest league on that Bears team and that's okay, Rob,
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Are you done?
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Good?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Once again, just ridiculous coming off the game they played
in Philadelphia, you act like he had and played any
games he has brought that team back.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
He was let me talk, got off the mic and
let you talk. Did I not?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I took my mic off, yes, so let me talk now.
I was quiet. I let you go ahead with your spiel. Okay,
did I not? I didn't want to interrupt you, so
I let you go. The whole idea that you're gonna
sit here when this guy had won four games when
they had no business to win, and when he made
some big throws and some big plays even in this game,
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he got them back in and played well in the
second half, and you're talking about the first half. But
you'll you'll, you'll celebrate your door Sanders throwing touchdowns or
losing to the Titans.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But you're gonna sit there about Caleb.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Williams in games where did they were seven point underdogs
in Green Bay?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It would have been unbelievable for them to.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Go on the road and win in Philadelphia and win
in Green Bay back to back, and they we were
in the game and that last play, I knew they
were gonna throw that ball in the end zone and
it was what fifty to fifty ball where you might
come down with it and win the game, or it
was gonna be an interception. I wasn't even shocked that
that was the play call because that's what they normally
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do is throw the ball in the end zone on
that Everybody on a short yardages is up close. So
what they do is like, Yo, we're gonna go and
and try. We got space in the end zone, let's
go for it. And that's what happened. He threw the pick.
He doesn't throw a lot of picks. I'm so tired.
It's still about winning. He's a young quarterback, but you
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make it like he's terrible and every week or every chance.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
They just had a big game in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And right away because they lose by seven points to
Green Bay when they were seven point underdown, he's the
worst quarterback and he's the weakest link. That's your take
on Caleb Williams. Tell me that they should bench him
or cut him. If you want to have a strong
take on Caleb Williams coming on every other week and saying.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh you didn't play well in the week. It's link
on the bean.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So what if they won nine games where nobody even
had them being into the playoffs. Nobody picked them to
go in the playoffs or to have nine wins this year.
And to sit around and act like he's disappointed when
they're disappointed Chicago and the Bears because they're nine and
four is outrageous to me.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
That's what I can't understand. That's the part.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You act like like there was some high, lofty expectations.
Show me the preseason predictions that had them going to
the super Bowl. Kingo who had them win in the division,
had them going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
But they're still there in the hunt for the division.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You're acting like people had them to be three and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But I'm saying, I'm they're half a game out Green.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So so I can't You can do whatever you want.
You can do whatever you want, but I could be
critical of you a f on the Greek right, So yeah,
go ahead, do what you want, just like I was
critical of you and the Cheefe when you made your
your parade for Patrick Mahomes and they're going to the
super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
He's the m v P.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I told you then it wasn't happening. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
The reason why, the reason why I don't listen to
you because you said because you said the listen to
your right.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So you said it all last year, right stop? Literally
did I told you?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah? You did. I told you what the chief the
super Bowl? I did not. You literally didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
This is the difference between you can admit it.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
That's be.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Every week get the pit. I did not pay them
every week. No he did twelve out or whatever week.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
No, I did not. I didn't piss him to lose
every week.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Shop So you do know Rob keeps tracking I do,
and I know I didn't pick him every week against them.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
So I don't know when you're right, Rock because you
pick against them every week.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
What I'm telling you they fIF I told you by
the games, I told you, No, I told you told
you the thing I told you was to a thing.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I told you that the Lions weren't going to the
super Bowl and the Chiefs weren't going to win the
super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
That's what I told you all year. I didn't care
what the record was.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Okay, okay, right.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
You are the weak to think.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
The Bears have won four They got four wins this
season after trailing, Right, this is this is the guy
who's so bad team.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
It doesn't matter. That's about coming back, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Because they could have been losses. They could have been lost,
and he looks bad against the chance.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Your wins this season after trailing at some point in
the final two minutes of the fourth.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Quarter, you read no, let me say this, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's the fourth Right, it's the most wins of any
of the season since nineteen seventy, since the merger. That
doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You don't win games in the final two minutes in
the fourth quarter since nineteen seventy. What are you talking about?
That's what I'm trying to figure out. What you're acting
like it happens all the time.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
No, what's funny about that is again the selective of
when winning close games matters. So everybody else wins a
close game, they shouldn't be winning as it's fugazy.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
They win close games now, it's great.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
And also you're talking about games that a lot of
times he dugged them in the hole.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
He dugged him in the hole, just like he dug
him in the hole yesterday.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Versus the Packers, and he tried to dig him out
play good, really good.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
In the second half.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Absolutely, no, I have no problem in that, but also
was a large contributor as to why they were in
the hole in the first place. And again, you ain't
got to take my word for it, take his own
coaches word for it.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
So he should be benched, right A cut? No what
you're saying, why not I'm terrible because I don't quarters
was terrible.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I don't have to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
You say it's terrible to Why don't you get on,
have to take it, take a stand on something, say
you should be cut.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
You can't play the middle of the fence the middle
of the time.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
No, you can't do it.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Literally stand stand, put your hand off to hate your
hand up.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
You don't have to be in the middle. Rout cut
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, cut, Yeah, cause that no go viral.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Oh if that's going viral, then I have no intention
of going viral saying some crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, they said I was crazy when I said the
Chiefs weren't gonna make the playoffs either.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
That went viral well, and I was a bad guy.
I was washed. I didn't know what I was talking
about he can't.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Get it for clicks. He can't get it for it.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Clicks because he hates Patrick Mahomes and he hates greatness
and he hates he can't be true.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
And then none of.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
You still hate Patrick Mahomes and they ate.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I hate Patrick Mahomes for I don't hate Patrick Mahomes,
just don't think he's no.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
What they say.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
He was Jordan as Chris Bussa and I Rob ge
how much did we fight about that? And you know what,
Chris might be finally right? He is, uh Jordan ess
the Wizards, Yes he is.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Pulls that run absolutely was Jordan. I get the point.
Career wise, it ain't over.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Obviously, Mike played his whole career, but that stretch he
had was amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Patrick Mahomes eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight
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Did yesterday prove that Cayleb Williams is the weakest is
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Speaker 5 (17:43):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Will take some
calls quickly.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Kayla Williams says, E the weeke is late for the
Chicago Bears eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox or
sax of calls?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Rop who we got Harrow and Chicago. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Harrow?
Speaker 9 (17:57):
That's up? Guy's nine time caller, longtime. I'm going to
stop at ten, but I'm an.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
We appreciate you, my man and the support.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
We do appreciate you.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Guys.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
You know, uh tell me you are crazy? How is
Caleb the weakest link on the Bears? We give up
like thirty points a game. We can't every game ends
like twenty six to twenty five. Caleb is a half
the reason or winning. Does He needs to improve? Absolutely?
But is he the weakest link? He's far from the
weakest links. There's like ten things that are weaker than
Caleb on the Bears right now, and Caleb is Yeah.
(18:30):
I wouldn't call Caaleb a week length. I called Caleb,
a second year quarterback. That's developing fine.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Which is all we asked for us.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
We're ahead of schedule giving our artist.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
But that's it all right.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I'm with you, appreciate it. I think you spot on
there Mike in Peoria, Illinois. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
What's up, Mike.
Speaker 10 (18:52):
Oh great to be back with you. Yes, du time
of our trashure every night.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
This love it go ahead, my.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
Hey, just like the caller in front of me, said
Caleb Williams. Is not the weakest link. The weak of
f link by far on the Chicago Bears is a
defensive front. Twenty fifth and sacks. After the Bears tied
the game up at twenty one, you gotta get a stop,
thank you. Pressure on the quarterback. You can't let him
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go up twenty eight to twenty one. Maybe a field
goal and then you come down and win the game
or send it in overtime or whatever. But the Bears
have no presence on a defensive front. Give me as
Chris Jones type of animal on the front front line.
Give me something on the defensive front. That's the leaks link.
Just ask Jill Flackau how hard it was to put
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up four hundred and seventy yards against the Bears or
whatever he did.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Come on, here's my response to you.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
There's got response. They are leading the league in takeaways.
They are staffed twenty seven or four more than any
other team. I'm not acting like they're the Three Bucks
or some Ravens. We know that, but they absolutely have
the takeaways. And I talked about this the other day.
They give him a chance. Total defense bottom ten.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Those are your stats to those of the feelings.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
No, no, the fact, No, they're giving him the ball.
No wakeaways, give you the ball back.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But they also once he tied this once he once
he got them tied, what happened. They went to the Packers,
got the ball, went right down field.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's way he tied the game in Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I'm not saying they're the Bucks, Rod, I'm not sitting
there saying they're the greatest defense.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Ever.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
What I'm saying is Viki bottom two more takeaways than
anybody else.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Four That a lot of opportunity for did any other team?
That's huge?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Barb in Illinois, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Barb?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Hey, Barb, are.
Speaker 11 (20:52):
You going great?
Speaker 8 (20:53):
How are you good?
Speaker 11 (20:55):
It's cold here though?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Can I say this, Barb? And I mean this on
the song on a song, tip baby, it's cold outside
because I was in Detroit in New York this past week.
Speaker 11 (21:06):
And I know you were, and what happened? Who won there?
It was great?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Oh yeah, Bob, don't hurt me now with that.
Speaker 11 (21:14):
Okay, the Bears are so improved this year. I'll tell
you I am not a Bear fan. I am a
Packer fan, but I will admit Caleb has improved. And
yesterday people aren't going to like this Ben Jonson with
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the weakest link.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Wow, go ahead, Barb, to give us why why you
did so? I'm want to hear this.
Speaker 11 (21:41):
He just made some calls that just didn't go over.
I mean, you guys watched the game, right, yep? Okay,
what happened in the last few seconds of the game?
Who was wide open? And who did Caleb myths?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I didn't see it.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I remember exactly who who was?
Speaker 11 (22:02):
But go ahead, Barb, no, I'm listening to you. Go ahead,
all right. Sorry for my voice the cold.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Gear, all right, thanks for the Thank you, Bob. You
can have a cold. It's cold out there, get better, Barb.
We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
One last call, Drew in New Jersey. You on the
couple Finds Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
What's up, Drew?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
How are you?
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (22:24):
Guys? I think that we've kind of seen this from
a Bears quarterback recently. Did everyone remember year or two
of Mitchell for this year when they brought in the
coach and then they revamped the offense and he had.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
A good year.
Speaker 12 (22:37):
I see. I see Caleb Williams as the Karl Anthony
Towns of the NBA, always always leaving you wanting more.
He has all the tools that just for some reason
you can't.
Speaker 10 (22:49):
Put it together.
Speaker 12 (22:50):
And I mean, yeah, that's kind of that's kind of
where I'm at. I think that top five quarterback, but
I think there's some years where he is maybe top ten,
which Karlin Towns.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
All right, that's not a curry of comparison. Damn was
lookingike to that. I'm not mad at that. I get
what you're saying right there. Thanks appreciate, Yeah, thank you, Drew,
appreciate the call.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
All right.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Other side of training again, we will have our man TJ.
Housmansa to join us to talk to some of these
NFL headlines right now, USC Chris Chris Purveet.
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Speaker 5 (23:29):
All right, Chris, appreciate you, Man.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I couple Rod Parker kelvin Washington on a Magic City Monday,
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Speaker 5 (23:35):
Always, TJ.
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Speaker 5 (23:41):
Hoo's what up?
Speaker 8 (23:42):
Brother, godoring man?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
We're good?
Speaker 5 (23:45):
How you we're good?
Speaker 8 (23:46):
Man?
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (23:47):
I can't complain, can't complain one bit.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Better than Patrick Mahomes. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Oh yeah, you know they struggling a bit. That's struggling
a bit.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Let's do this his last four games one to don
six interceptions and you can talk about it all. Oh
the receivers, Come on, dude, why at your receiver.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
You're a former receiver. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
If a receiver drops one, it's about you hurting the quarterback.
How many times did you save quarterbacks with a great catch?
Some of those balls that Mahomes threw weren't great they
were behind the receivers.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Come on, hush.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
It goes hand in hand, like there's gonna be certain
times where there's bad balls and you make a great
play on it, and there's gonna be other times where.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
You drop a ball.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
It happens. But I've never seen fourteen for he completed
hundred fifty percent of his passes. Pat Mahomes, that is
unheard of.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
His numbers are ridiculously bad. And whush.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I just sent you the video because I was hoping
you could see it before you came on. I'm saying
the reason that they're not making the playoffs is because
of Patrick mahone homes one hundred percent. Everybody claimed when
they got his receivers back, right, Oh, Rice and Worthy, right, Oh,
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he's going to be right. He's going to be enough
the MVP race. He's going to get them to the
super Bowl if he gets his receivers back. That's what
I was told.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He has the.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Seventh best defense and he has Andy Reid as a coach,
and his numbers are bad. They're offensively awful, and that's
why they are where they are, which is under five hundred.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
It's been a huge struggle for the Chiefs youth, and
we're not used to seeing it. That's the thing. We're
just not used to seeing this from Kansas City, not
with Pat Mahomes and Andy Reid, you know, calling the shots,
so to speak. We just hadn't seen.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
How shocked were you that they went for it on
their own thirty one? It's a one score game. The
Texans didn't do anything in the second half. Why why
was he compelled to feel like they couldn't beat the
Texans offensively that they had to go for it in
that situation?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Were you shocked?
Speaker 8 (26:10):
I was shocked, and that shows me he felt like
the pressure was on. The pressure was on, and so
he felt like, I don't have a choice.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Really, that's crazy.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
He didn't He felt like he didn't have a choice.
Very simple. He felt like he didn't have a choice,
and so he did that.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah here, but oh go ahead, Rob, what real quick?
You keep saying he's like one and six? He has
five touchdowns? He had four on Thanksgiving. I don't know where,
like where you keep saying getting that number from, by
the way, just throwing I don't get that part, TJ.
Let me go to some other guys. We got the
Ravens lose a big one to the Steelers. We'll talk
about it a little bit more as far as the
(26:53):
actual uh to play at the end there, But.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Arno Rave, what do you do now with the Ravens?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
There's still because that division is so poorly right now?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
But what is up with Lamar?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Everybody kind of thought they come back, they right at
the ship for a handful of games.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Now they look bad.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
What do you make of the Ravens as we have
a handful of games left to end this season?
Speaker 8 (27:14):
When you look at Baltimore, it's like, how are they
losing what at least the team that we thought was
going to contend for a Super Bowl. Defensively, they're just Lamar.
They not playing great on offense, They're not running the ball,
obviously not throwing the ball. Well, it's just been a
complete struggle for the Ravens all year. I mean, let's
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just call it for what it is. They've struggled all
year long, and you think because of Lamar Jackson, because
of Humbball, they're gonna turn it around, and it just
doesn't look like that's possible. It doesn't. It doesn't look
possible at all. And so for the first time in
a long time. We are going to see the AFC
look a lot different, right, and so that's a good thing.
(27:59):
It's a good thing.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Is it not hurt? Though?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Is he hurt? What are we watching here?
Speaker 5 (28:03):
TJ?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You watch him?
Speaker 8 (28:05):
No? I can't.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I'm just asking because he looks and and and the
other one is the touchdown at the end.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
How is that not a touchdown? What am I missing?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
So I could touch the pylon, I could break the plane.
But if I'm a receiver and I catch the ball
and take two and a half steps, uh, and then
the guy strips the ball and knocks it down, it's
not a touchdown.
Speaker 10 (28:31):
I thought that.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
I think anybody watching football, anybody associated with football.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
That's a touchdown.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
We all thought that's a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Commentation thought it was a touchdown.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
I'm gonna say everybody thought like, how is that not
a touchdown? More like, how do you not call that
a touchdown? It should be the question? Right, I thought
it was a touchdown. The fact that it wasn't called
a touchdown is somewhat mind boggling to me. If you
ask me, I clear, you catch it, you're trying to
(29:06):
keep it away from the defender. You get two feet
down touchdown. But the official sol otherwise than what can
you do?
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah, I don't understand that one right there. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
You got to do the cupid shuffling the end zone
two steps? Ain't it no more? We're on t J
who Smazada on with the Yacopa. Robert Kelvin on the
Magic City Monday. I want to go to the game
of watching right now. The Eagles just scored to make
it seven to three. The Chargers are up. Rob and
I both agreed that they have to have this win.
It's not that their season's over, but they want to
get back on the right side of things.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Been struggling lately.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
And then boom, right off the bat, the Chargers go
down and get a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
What do you make of the.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Eagle season and the struggles? Like, how do you right
the ship for them? It's been a strange season the
entire season.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
It's when you look at the Eagles scene Super Bowl
winner last year, pretty much the same exact team coming back,
and the one constant or the one different that isn't
coming back was offensive coordinator Kelling Moore. And so you
have to put this on Kevin Petullo. He is the
(30:09):
new guy, and the new guy hasn't done his job,
so to speak. Yet you're on staff, but you're the
new guy. As far as calling place, he hasn't done
his job. And people can say, oh, Jalen hurt it.
Jalen Hurst did well with Kelling Moore and so he.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Was a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
This has to fall on Kevin Petullo. And think about this.
If I'm Nick Sirianni and we're struggling like this and
I'm an offensive guyka if you my guy, but I
got this, I'm taking over. That's what I'm doing. I'm
not gonna keep letting you take this criticism. I'm gonna
take over and see if we can write the ship.
The fact that he hasn't done that, it's kind of
like hmm to me.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
How about the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I mean, Philip Rivers really is getting a try out
with Joe Naviath not available?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Come on, seriously, TJ.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No other quarterback who played major college football who's sitting
at home or sitting on the sidelines waiting for a
phone call to get.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Ready that they got to go to Philip Rivers.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Who is nominated for the Hall of Fame Rock who.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Has to get fifteen babysitters to watch his kids in
order to play.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I don't get it.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
They want a guy that they feel like can be comfortable.
Has it been four or five years since he's the
last late it's four or five life.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, yeah, And the last time we saw him there
in Indianapolis it was a disaster. So what do we
look at We're thinking that he's gotten better five years
four or five years later. I don't get it.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
It's risky business. But you know this, you know what happened.
They called them, Hey, Phil, you've been thought, Oh yeah, yeah,
I'm slinging this thing. Man, I'm ready to go. All right,
we're just gonna confirm this by bringing you in for
a workout. That's a tough situation if you're the coach,
But think about this, man, the coach have a chance
to get into the playoffs. They've struggled in previous years,
(32:04):
and so they're doing what they can and just just
shows me, like Anthony Richison, either he isn't coming back
or they don't trust him to come back and help him,
and so they're like, hey, we got a chance to
get in the playoffs. We've got exhaust all resources. So
I don't fault them for it. But at Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
But I'm just saying this. Nobody else is all. I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
Whoso else, there's nobody anybody else? You pick up right now.
They not gonna have the resume of a Philip Rivers.
They at home for a reason. They at home for
a reason.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
And Philip Rivers is also his resume. He hadn't want anything.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I get the numbers he's put up and the years
he's played. I just don't understand. I didn't even know
you were allowed to have a wheelchair on this field
during the game.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Hey rob Man, I probably this is why you so
great at what you do. Boy, you so quick, You're
so witty, witty man. And if Philip Rivers can all
they need to listen, if they can just win one game,
they only need to really win one maybe two games
and the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, they don't have to win.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
Everybody, everybody that's chasing them to chieves. The Dolphins, the Ravens.
They just gotta win one maybe two games and they
are in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
They're in a position that they don't need that's to
win three games.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
I'm still with you on that.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
In the coach you need this, what you need this? Playoffs?
You need it.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
They never wish they had a Jamis Winston so bad
in their life right now, he would be the perfect
person in this situation. And we appreciate it. DJ as always,
my man, Thank you man.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
Y'all take take care of keep up the great work
as always.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
No doubt, man, that river ain't run dry. Rob Philip,
we both choked when we have Philip.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Rivers the world.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Hey, we we actually agree on something that happened from
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I were just talking about it with whosh Man. It
was circa It felt almost like that you were probably covering.
And of course that Megatron catch with the Bears or
everybody's like, oh, that's a touchdown and they don't call
it a catch. No catch, the does Bryant catch, He's
so stupid, the des Bryant one, where you know, everybody's like, oh,
(35:10):
that's a catch, Like no catch. It's the weirdest thing
when your own eyes, all of us watching football, our
whole lives, and kind of universally the commentators, everybody's oh, yeah, catch, Okay,
what do you to do?
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Now?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Do they do this?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
You like, move on because it's clearly a catch, and
then they just like no catch reviewing it.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
You're like, wait, what like that?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I don't even understand, Like to he held it out
so he couldn't get it, took it two two, three steps.
He finally knocks it out. But you see that happen
all the time where the fender's mad, you know what
I mean, he kind of like knocks it out his hand.
So that that was huge. That was a huge one,
right there, A huge mistake in my.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Opinion, it's I don't know. I think the referees have
have stopped with just the logical eye test.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I mean, he's taken two steps.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Why couldn't you hit the pie line not being bounds right,
just hit the pieline? They score that you break the plane.
How many times do we see the ball get loose
after they break the plane at the goal?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I don't even.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Understand it, Like that's good, He's clearly in the end
zone step one two and a half. And now the
guy reaches to knock the ball out and they call
that a note catch. I just I don't know how
anybody at the NFL watching that, who's ever in charge
of referees or league officials or whoever can look at
(36:33):
that and go, what are we doing like that? That
that cannot happen. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
And especially too, it wasn't like you you know how
you see a receiver jump in the air, maybe land
a cup and like, but the defenders also going for
the ball. And let's say he stripped it that way,
he held it so far out like almost like a
nine and nine a nine nine, like you couldn't get it.
I just see I was blown on it. And then
on top of that, the meaning fullness of that game,
(37:01):
right if you're Lamar Jackson in ra.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Happens to Lamar a lot. I just it's mind boggling
to me.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Like somebody's tight ends.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Man, It's like but.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's always like some some some play you know what
I mean? Where you look at it. Even the game
a couple of weeks ago, well, no was it? Did
they play things?
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Thanksgiving? Lively lost the one again and the uh there.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Were two there were two touchdowns that they had that
came off the board or whatever in that game.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
I told Rob g earlier.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
It reminded me of when the Packers throw a touchdown?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Who is that against?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I just forgot was that against the Yeah, yeah, and
they let they let him come down and let the
guy rustle the ball after he already landed down, and
he rustled the ball out of it and they gave
the ball to Seattle, Like.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Yeah, the fail Mary remember that. Yeah, he caught the ball.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
He landed, the guys right right, the guys rustling him
on the ground for the ball.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
I was like, wow, I never saw that.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
No, that was crazy, the fail me.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
And this is after he had about seven help marys
against the Lions in like two years.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I sold her like one thrown seventy yards in Ford Field.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
I know the craziest thing about that throw.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
That was the most pinpoint accurate hail may meeting like,
and it looked like.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
I'm just heaving.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
It looked like he's like all right the corner, like
like a real throw, not just a hail Mary. That
was when I was like, all right, this dude is
beyond different.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
He might be.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
At that point for me, I was, Okay, he's on
another level of just pure under like talent that we've
seen in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
But but yeah, I thought it was a.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Miscall to me recently, especially the last two three weeks
there's been a handful of games some really weird calls
where commentators themselves are like, oh, that's a touch on
our that's an interception, that's whatever the play may be.
And they've been overturning of some really some strainedes strange
ones throughout the last handful of weeks.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
From my opinion, all right on the other side, Josh Allen,
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