June 14, 2024 • 41 mins
Chris Broussard and Rob Parker talk about Jayson Tatum's recent comments and discuss what the Celtics championship run should be talked about once they win.
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Speaker 4 (01:02):
Uh So, don't miss that, Rob.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
They just showed Tatum, Jalen Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum
walking in together, you know, laughing and like friends and
all that walking into the arena.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh I thought they would be on edge, you know,
they're up three.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
How do you really think.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Jason Tatum feels that Brown is going to you know,
likely going to win the finals MVP at least right now,
he's the finals MVP front runner. He was the Eastern
Conference Finals MVP. How do you think he really feels
the inside about that.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I don't think he's like, like, those things happen, you
can't You're not gonna win them all. You know, everybody's
not Michael Jordan, even though you know what I mean, Like,
I just I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I don't think he should be just happy that they're.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Going to you know, get off the get their monkey
off their back, Chris, you know, like that's really if
I'm him, that's what I'm happy the most about, because
once you have one in your back pocket, you could
just play now, you know, like like that that's the
thing you want to do.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
When we said that about Anthony Davis, we thought he'd
go to another No.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right, I mean that's what it should have been.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
He should have been the focal point and all that
and let Lebron restauring the rest.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But that's something else.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
But but it does give you some leeway and breathing
room Chris, you know, like you can see whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
He's a main man.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I got my championship. I played whatever we won. We
might not win again, we might not get back again.
That's the luck of the draw, right, But but I
got it done. And that's really what it comes down to,
is getting it done. So whoever's the MVP? You know, Hey,
it's not my turn this time. Who knows the next
time we go next year, maybe I'm the guy who's
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who is the MVP? You know, Like that's the way
you have to look at it.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, Look, I do think he definitely is focused on
the championship, and when we win this championship, it's just
gonna be phenomenal. Like I really think that's the first
and foremost thing in his mind.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And he's going to be legitimately.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Happy and overjoyed and relieved that he won his first championship.
Might end up Brobb being his only championship, cause I'm
sure he's going to be hyped about that.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Because you're not only you, I know you you always
had your questions about the Celtics and with with with
uh legitimate reasons because of some of the stuff that
we've seen and some of the games, so they were
all legitimate.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It wasn't illegitimate, it was legitimate.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
But you know, once they get it done, Chris, you
just that that that can't be a conversation or narrative, right,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Try them, right, I don't. I don't believe it though
they can get it done, right, it's done.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
But I also know, rob.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Just human nature, and I just know when I played sports,
obviously not close to the NBA level, but you know,
you do want to shine too, you know, and and
you settle into roles like when I played and I
was a star or whatever it might have been, whatever
(04:25):
sport whatever, you know, you you like you want to win,
of course, but you also do want to kind of
get your yards if it's football, get your numbers if
it's basketball. You know, like that's a part of like
your identity on anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Everybody wants to feel like they contributed and had a
role in it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So that's well that you.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
In roles though, Like so if you're a role player
that you're not even like you can really play free.
You're not thinking about I gotta be the MVP, you
know what I mean, Like that just be icing on
the cake. For you if you're the second best player.
I've been in situation Robers like the second best player,
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and you settle into that too. And if you're the
second best player and you've accepted that, then if the
best player gets the MVP Award or whatever, you cool
with it. But when you're the best player, you kind
of expected again. I think him and Jalen are completely fine.
I don't think there's any beef. And yesterday, you know,
(05:29):
I did a whole rant on how he should not
let anybody get him.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Down if he doesn't win the finals MVP.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But inside, you also have that competitive nature even with
your teammates, and you want to shine. And really Rob,
it could just it could serve as motivation for him
going forward.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And that's Jalen too. Like Rob, I don't doubt, you.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Know, Jalen's made noise about how you know, he was
upset that he was left off the All NBA team,
and I get it. I had on my third team
and they won sixty four games, they ran away from
the Eastern Conference, and they only had one All NBA player.
That's kind of, you know, crazy, And so I think
though he used that as motivation, and I think Tatum
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will do the same.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
So it's a it could be a good thing for
the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
But yesterday Rob, he was asked by a reporter, Jason Tatum,
about this being a historic team.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Like the reporter ran off some records. They're fifteen and two.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Note that's the best record of any Celtics team ever
in the playoffs. They could be the first team to
sweep the conference finals. In the NBA Finals. If they
win the night, Rob, they'll be eighty and twenty. That'll
be the second best record in Celtics history, the eighty
six Celtics. With some people think, you know, or at
least they've been in that discussion for the best team ever,
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they were eighty two and eighteen.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
This would be the second best.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And they asked Jason Tatum, like, beyond just winning a championship,
how does it feel too, you know, maybe you'll actually
be on a historically great, one of the all time
great teams or certainly won all time great Celtics team.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Ever, what are your thoughts about that? Here's what he said.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
There's never been a Celtic team ever with a better
playoff record than what you guys have to this point.
You guys have a chance to be second all time
in the eighty sixteen when eighty two and eighteen, you
guys could be two games away from that as like
the second best Celtic team ever in terms of record.
How much more would that add to it when you
think of all that this franchise has done. You guys
could be at the top of a whole lot of
lists in that record book.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I didn't know that that would be really cool.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
But you guys probably say, we didn't play anybody to
get here, So did that do it again next year?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Rup?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I mean, he's heard the conversation, and that was the
talk before they got here, that whoever comes out of
the West is going to beat the Celtics. The Celtics
didn't beat anybody. Everybody was banged up. Sure they should
have won all those games, they didn't. They had the
easiest path to the postseason, I mean, to the finals,
that's what, right, That was the conversation, and instead they're
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looking at a three to zero lead against the team.
Everybody thought from the West that the Western team, no
matter who it was, that Denver had to get knocked out,
Minnesota had to get knocked out. You know, Oka See
had to get knocked out. And guess what they still
still still still is in a situation, Chris, where they're
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going to make easy work of the team that most
people thought had this dynamic backcourt and had the toughest role.
They beat fifty three fifty win teams. They beat three
fifty win teams. Look at where they are. Does that
matter now?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I was one that was talking about their path, no
doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
The three the only one.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Of the most of them were banged up.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
But all that's out the window now.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Like beating Dallas, particularly if they sweep them, but even
just beating them in seven, just beating them period ends
all that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
It ends it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
It doesn't matter, Rob, don't We don't remember the path
of teams three years ago.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
We just remember did you win the championship or not?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And so beating Dallas, which has two future Hall of
famers on the team, beating Dallas, which, as you said,
they beat the Clippers with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.
Kawhi was banged up, but still they James Harden was there.
They beat the number one seed in the West, Oklahoma
City with Shae Gilgers Alexander, the second highest ranked guy
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in the MVP voting. Then they beat Minnesota, the team
that beat the defending champions, and so beating them, Rob
beating Dallas, that ends all that talk about, Oh, they
ran through a week east, they didn't have any competition
in the.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Fives, Rob, We talk about it with the two thousand
and eight Celtics.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
We don't care that they went seven with Atlanta in
the first round one right, who cares.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Doesn't matter one iota.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And so now the only thing I will say is,
and this is real nitpicking, if they sweep tonight and
they end up sixteen and two, it still is what
it is, and you gotta give them props for that record.
I would say, if they face better competition, you don't
(10:47):
think they would have went sixteen and two. But who knows.
They this would be their eleven straight victory, Rob.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
They haven't lost in like a month.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It's crazy. Christmas's crazy, and that would be one ain
no on the road.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Right, right. So it's been a great team.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And the one thing he did say that I agree with,
I agree with a lot of it, but when he
said we just gotta go win it again next year, Rob,
I think all the talk about is this and all
time great team. At least in Boston, it's the talk.
(11:27):
I don't think nationally, but all to talk about is
it's a great team and they got the numbers to
back it up.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
But hardly anybody on the national.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Level believes they're an all time great team, regardless of
the numbers. Rob, I think that's good for these Celtics.
I think that dangles a carrot out in front of them.
Let's show everybody again if we win it again, they
can't say a thing about us, as long as they
have the right viewpoint and take it one game, one
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day at a time. If they got that carrot out there, yeah,
we're gonna show them. Still got the chip on their shoulder.
That's great, I think Rob. The Kansas City Chiefs right
now going for this three peat, the first in Super
Bowl history, I think that's great for them because you know,
championship teams can have a problem with complacency, and the
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Chiefs are not complacent because they're looking at we want
to be the first to win three straight. And I
think the Celtics will not be complacent next year because
they'll be like, yeah, look, we won sixty four. We
won games by eleven points, We won the East by
fourteen games.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
We had the best playoff record in Celtics history.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And they still don't think we're an all time great team.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Let's show them.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I think it'll be good for other two motivation, something
to shoot for. And also I think teams understand that too,
about you know, solidifying it and brought it up a
million times, Chris, and we do talk about this team
a lot. But the two thousand and four Pistons when
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they went back, Chris, it was just the idea that
it wasn't a fluke. They didn't win, they lost in
seven games. They beat checking Kobe, Oh, the Lakers. They
were squabbling, blah blah blah. But did they but they
fought all the way back down or were they down
two to the Spurs came back, forced the game seven,
(13:30):
lost by five or six points. You don't leave, Chris,
even though they didn't went back to back feeling like
that twenty fourteen was a fluke?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Do you no?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And you're right a large part of it.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
If they had say, gotten beating the second round, rob,
there would have been a lot of talk about it. Man.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
You know that just slacking. Kobe is going through the trial, right.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And and you know Malone was heard and they weren't
getting along.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
It would have been all that rock.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
It would have been all that And so you're right,
So what they do like if they want to go
down as like an all time great and they got
a chance.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Rob, Look, we don't know necessarily.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I don't think I think Tatum and Brown or future
Hall of famers if assuming they win this series, Rob,
those two as Hall of famers no matter what. I
also think though, Drew Holliday and our Horford will probably
be Hall of Famers if they win this championship, And
we don't I don't think Tatum and Brown are like,
you know, ultra ultra all time greats.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
But who knows what we'll think in ten years.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
We just gotta see.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
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Speaker 4 (14:49):
About to be the MVP. How does Tatum feel about that?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
And is this a historically great Celtics team assuming they win?
Is this ain't history great Boston Celtics team or even
NBA team of all time.
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Speaker 4 (17:11):
What are your thoughts?
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Oh great, He's gonna be there and great out there.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
Anyhow. In terms of the not yet, I think they're
gonna go out back to back fall I'm gonna do guys.
They're just about to get the monkey alter back because
they've been a good team for a while now. So
this just kind of happened, right, they had a bad Yeah,
and then next year, I mean they go to good team,
they can do it again. But until they go back
to back then we can have that discussion. So luck tomorrow,
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Yeah, it's not the greatest SELFI No, I wouldn't put
them there, but I think were with Tatum. Of course,
he wants to have the most valuable player for the finals,
but I think this time he's he really don't care.
I just think that he is just going to appreciate
getting the ring because they have failed. Yeah, but the
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last four years they probably really failed, and we all
know that they should have beat Golden State that year.
But I mean, Seth was deep, was maxaphe But I'm
just saying they was the better team, and now that
it's Tier one game away. I don't think Tatum, of
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course he's not gonna get the finals, but I think
he's just gonna appreciate this moment and if they get back,
You're right, they're gonna have to do it again and
he can have another chance because he did the same
thing with Golden State. With with you know, after they
won their first they went back getting lost. Of course
they got KD. But they just have to do it again.
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So for us to put them in that conversation for no.
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Doubt.
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She will lead to Larry Merchant. I don't know, I
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Got Steve the Sager Steve and just two w NBA
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He took against what's the attendance at that game?
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Good question, and the LA Sparks with a halftime lead
of forty four to thirty nine at Minnesota. We've got
Game four of the NBA Finals coming up at about
ten fifteen minutes with five seed Dallas trying to stay
alive down three games to none against the one seed
Boston Celtics. If there's a Game five, it would be
at Boston on Monday night. By the way, Stanley Cup
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Game four is Saturday night. That could be ending quickly.
Florida is up three games, another one.
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Both series could be sweeps, Chris, even the NHL Stanley
Cup Finals.
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That is actually a kind of a rarity. We were
talking about this a bit last night. The last time
both Stanley Cup and NBA Finals each ended in sweeps
was nineteen ninety five.
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Wow.
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All right, Thank you, Steve.
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Our next guest covers women's basketball for the Athletic We
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Welcome to the Oda, Sabrina.
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How are you.
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Thanks so much for having me. I'm doing well, guys, ChRI.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It's great to have you. Now.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
With Caitlin Clark coming into the league, you had to
know obviously it would be a lot of buzz and
storylines and things like that, But it seems like every
other day there's some new controversy or story or whatever
you want to call it.
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Surrounding her, not even a lot of her own doing.
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Are you surprised by just the level of I don't
know intensity that has surrounded her, both regarding basketball and
just all types of other stuff since she's entered the league.
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another viewership rucker, and you know all of the big
crowds they threw. But I don't think I expected her
to be this cultural touchstone to the point where, you know,
every comment she makes gets dissected, and you know, we're
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talking about little things that happened on and off the court.
I mean, she's entering like Lebron t bow zone here.
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Know, being Yeah, polar and T ball was polarizing, right,
I mean, do you look at it as a polarizing
figure at this point?
Speaker 11 (24:45):
You know, I think she kind of just represents whatever
you want to latch onto, right, Like, uh, if you
see her as someone who's this rising tide that's lifting
all boats in women's basketball, or if you see her
as this one white heterosexual girl who's taking attention away
from you know, the black women that make up the
majority of the WNBA.
Speaker 10 (25:04):
Like I just.
Speaker 11 (25:06):
Her existence allows people to latch on to different things.
And I don't think personally anything about Caitlyn is all
that polarizing other than whether you think she should be
that ball down or not. But it's just the way
I think.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Let me say this, the polarizing part, not all that.
But there are people out there who think she gets
a lot of more tension because she's white, and I
think that, you know what I mean. I think it's that,
not her beliefs or anything. There are people out there
just thought the coverage of her has been over the top.
Speaker 11 (25:39):
Yeah, And I mean we've seen really great white players
come into the league before. I mean, Brandon Stewart won
four national titles at Connecticut, Kelsey Plumb was the Division
one leading scorer before Caitlyn Clark. The covers of that
wasn't anything like this, right, I think there is something
special about Caitlyn just how magnetic she is on the
basketball court, whether it's the passing, whether it's the scoring.
So yeah, I'm I'm sure the race is part of it, obviously,
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but there is something special about her that is making
her unique and it's you know, part of it is
the moment that we're in where women's basketball is on
television more often, and I all allows female athletes to
market themselves better during college. But I think it's a
confluence of things, right, Like we can't ignore the race
part of it, but I also think that ignores just
(26:22):
a lot of what Caitlin individually brings to the table.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, I'm going to say, and this stop me if
I'm wrong. I do believe because she was making the
logo threes and the long I think the Steph Curry
effect is what attracted people to her. If she was
playing your traditional women's basketball, I don't think it would
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be this.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
How much does that play into it? The shots she
made in college.
Speaker 11 (26:52):
I think you're absolutely right. The Steph Curry effect is
a huge part of it. I mean, you think about
when Steph sort of burst out of the national scene
with the Warriors, like twelve twenty thirteen, when they started
making their playoff runs, Like every little kid wanted to
shoot like that, right, And now you look at Caitlin
and she has a similar shooting range, and she has
a similar player when she plays, you know, she's got
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a little bit of a you know, a mean streak
to her, but she also has a lot of fun
when she's on the court, and the hit it head passes,
like everything about her game is very entertainment friendly. So
I think I think the stuff Curry comparison is absolutely
spot on. Just the way that she has stretched the
basketball court is unique, and it's not like a lot
of people were playing before her.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
The ratings for the league are up, the attendance for
the league is up, and look, she's not the best
player in the league. Obviously, she wasn't not the best
player to enter the league. So that's legitimate when when
other players talk about all the other great players before her.
But she is the reason, primarily, you know, the the
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overwhelming majority of the reason for this increase in popularity.
Do you think around whether it's around the league or
in the front offices or the league off is whatever,
is there an appreciation of that or is there a
denial that she's the reason or what do you think
the feelings are about her? Because she clearly is the
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reason that the popularity is skyrocket.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
I mean, it's hard to deny that she's at the
very least a catalyst for everything that's happening, right, Like
you said, the WNBA on this steady growth curve over
the last two years, with this explosion being times with
her and Ingle Reefs and Cameron Briank and the rest
of this fantastic rookie class that has just come in.
I think, you know, it's undeniable that Caitlin plays an
enormous part of it. And I think the league obviously
(28:43):
recognizes it because Indiana had one national TV game all
of last season, then they're on TV thirty six out
of forty games this year. I think it was thirty
eight once we realized what the power of the Indiana
Fever Chicago skymatchup was going to be. I was that
another one coming up this Sunday that's on CBS. So
when you put a team that won five games two
(29:06):
years ago on national TV all but two times, it
definitely suggests that you know where the golden goose is.
So I do believe that the WNBA realizes what a special,
special asset they have in Caitlyn Clark. And yeah, maybe
we're going overboard putting Indiana in eleven games and twenty
days over the start of the season and watching them struggle,
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But people want to see her like. The audience has
not diminished, the enthusiasm around her has not dissipated. So
I definitely think the league realizes what they have here.
They're going to try to create as many opportunities to
get Caitlin on big stages as possible. Obviously the Olympics
is not going to be one of them, but I'm
sure they'll hype the hell out of All Star, which
she'll definitely be a part of.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, I look, I acknowledge she's not. I don't think
she's one of the twelve best players in the league.
I do think she's having an excellent rookie not maybe
not excellent, but a very good route has to I
mean one pace to be you know, fifteen to five
and five.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
That be only the fifth player ever.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
But I thought she should have been on the team.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I thought they made a mistake not putting her on
the team because I thought it would have been It
would have brought more eyeballs to women's professional basketball in America,
and I think they're gonna win no matter what.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
So I thought it was a mistake not to have her.
What were your thoughts?
Speaker 11 (30:29):
I mean, I agree with you. I wrote about this extensively,
getting back to February of this year's saying that I
thought Caitlin was going.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
To be on the roster.
Speaker 11 (30:36):
I didn't even really think it was much of a
question at that point. And obviously a little bit of
a tough start to the season just for Indiana relatively speaking,
and the fact that Caitlin wasn't able to go to
any team USA camps because she played, you know, through
the national championship game at Iowa made it a challenge
to put her on the roster. But I mean, this
is a forty minute game. You have a twelve player roster.
(30:57):
You don't need all twelve players, really, and it's not
like they took the best twelve players in the WNBA anyway.
It's there are a lot of different priorities that go
into creating a national team. Like, let's be real, you know,
there's some players who just have equity with USA Basketball,
who have been there for a while and they get
the benefit of the doubt and get to keep going,
and that's great. Like part of the culture of the
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national team is to have veterans, but it's also to
have young players, you know, So there's that balance, and
I think it was an err on there far. I
think it was an own goal where you know you're
going to have a great team regardless of whether you
say Kaitlin or not. And frankly, Caitlyn's always been very
good on the national stage, Like she's represented USA Basketball
at the youth levels and it's done extraordinarily well. She
was the MVP of the U nine team tournament three
(31:39):
years ago. So it's not like you know, you're putting
somebody who has the zero capability of being on the
national team. And I think I think, like you said,
they would have been fine either way, and even if
she makes the team in twenty twenty eight, like, I
don't know the Kaitlin Clark is ever going to be
this version of Caitlin Clark again, right, to not capitalize
on this specific moment of what works, it just feels
(32:01):
like a mistake. And it's not like USA Basketball always
takes the most deserving basketball candidates, Like there's always politics
that go into it. So for them to draw the
line here was very strange to me.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
No, I don't think it was.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I really don't I think that a they thought a
she would take a lot of attention away from all
the other girls. They've already all the other women, they've
already won what seven in a row.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
They're gonna win whether she's on the team or not.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
And I just think that it was more about that
that they didn't want all the other stuff that comes
along with it, and then to have to feel like
if she's not playing, then they're going to criticize them
for not playing her a lot of minutes, you know
what I mean, and other people have put in time,
energy and effort, they get pushed to the side.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I really believe that is what it was, not anything sinister.
I just think that they really thought she hasn't earned
this yet and her time will come.
Speaker 11 (33:00):
I just I don't think the USC basketball usually played
by those roles. They always put players who are fresh
out of college or one year out of college on
the team who haven't necessarily earned their spot.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
How about William, Let me say this that Shaquille O'Neill
was passed over.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
She's about women, I know, but.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I'm just trying to say, like, Shaquille O'Neill was a big,
big time people have been passed over before.
Speaker 11 (33:19):
Oh, I agree, It's uh, there's no real rhyme or
reason her constituency to how these decisions are made. I'll
give you that's all. I just think that when you
have the most popular player in the world personally, I
would take her.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Okay, before you go, we got about a minute. I
want to ask you a basketball question before you go.
Aliah Boston. Now, there was a lot of hype that
you know, obviously she was Rookie of the Year last year,
and with her and Caitlyn, you know, it would be,
you know, really be something special. And she has not
played close to what she did last I think she's
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getting a little bit better lately, but she really hasn't
been what she was last here.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 11 (34:03):
You know, I think the adjustment to the style of
play has been really hard for really, you know, she
was the focal point of the offense a year ago
where everything ran through the post for the Fever, and
naturally with Caitlyn coming in, it's a lot more perimeter
have either playing at a different pace. That's just never
a style of play that she's ever played, whether that's
at Indiana or dating back to South Carolina. I also
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don't think she came in great shape to camp a
lot of WNBA players, you know, they play overseas during
the off season and they're pretty much just always in
game shape. And Leah Boston worked for NBC Sports during
the off season, and you know, hadn't touched the basks
or hadn't really played a full game since September of
twenty twenty three. And you know, you saw the way
that she started the season. She didn't look like she
was really capable of running the floor with Caitlin. I've
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heard that when she was at the US national team
camp in April at the Final four, like they didn't
think she was in shape there. So I think you're
starting to see her just get into basketball conditioning at
this point, and her life game, this one's recent one
they play against Atlanta was the most like twenty twenty
three of the a Bostrom fifteen yet. So I'm hopeful
that it's mostly just a conditioning issue and she'll resemble
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the player she thought we thought she was going to
be sooner off. But yeah, that's just a huge part
of why Indiana hasn't been a successful as most people thoughts.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
All Right, that's Sabrina Merchant from The Athletic Thank.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
You A live.
Speaker 11 (35:23):
Yes, yeah, thank you so much for having on yep.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Shop Talk is next Chris and Rob the Eye Couple
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Speaker 4 (35:59):
It's time y' all for shop talk.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
All right, Chris and Rob.
Speaker 10 (36:03):
It is time for shop talk, where we talk about
things in the world of sports, or maybe not so
much in the world of sports, but we're kind of
cheating on this one and c on the word of
cheating today because we're actually gonna talk about football ish.
It's actually Julian Edelman talking about Tom Brady. The shop
Talk today is cheat meals, guys, because there's actually just
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a couple of days ago or so, there was an
article about Julian Edelman and he was exposing Tom Brady's
a little cheat meal. And we know Brady's a very
healthy guy, you know, always strict regimen of diets and
all that stuff. So apparently, uh, Julian Edelman, let's slip
the you know what's his real cheat meal? And I'll
tell you what, guys, he said, it was in fact
(36:46):
one thing, and he was actually quoted guys with Tom
would always have one chicken wing for his guilty pleasure
before he would huddle off to bed and Allen and
he said and emphasized, a single chicken wing is what
Tom had as a cheap meal.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Rob that.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Why even have a wing? I get if he was
like one potato chip? Chris, you can't do it, right,
I mean seriously, like what kind of pleasure you getting
out of one chicken wing?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Man?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I can't. I could see it if you just this meal,
I can eat ten wings or whatever it is. One
one would make me mad.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, you know what I would think, like to me
at the cheap would be like one chocolate chip cookie
or one Oakland oat mill, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Chris, Like, yeah, like that would be to me.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
But a chicken wing like that doesn't even sound like
really that that's your I know I couldn't do one wing.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I know that no, I you could do one basket maybe,
but not one bizarre now now, Patrick, so you've been,
as Rob was saying, you've been on this kind of
stringent diet.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah, are you doing it? Do you have a cheat meal? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (38:05):
So I do have a cheap meal, and I don't
go like it's not really that's it's certainly nowhere close
to Tom Brady strict of things. I'm just being active
and just watching what I eat a little bit, kind
of like calorie counting, I guess you would say. But no,
I do have a cheap meal. U. I don't do
it very often, maybe like once every month or two.
But there is one meal in particular I do like.
It's actually really simple, Rob. It's a chicken chicken palm
(38:29):
with a little bit some spaghetti and nothing too crazy,
not like a big pot full of spaghetti.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
The spaghetti is no good for you. Yeah right, I
just do a good a decent spaghetti. Last night spaghetti
sghetti is so good.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I'm good, but not good.
Speaker 10 (38:44):
I love the ZD I love all that stuff. I mean,
and it's just not good. I'm a pasta. I'm a
pasta ficianado lovely.
Speaker 13 (38:52):
I hate spaghetti. I was going to ask you spaghetti.
I don't really have like a cheap meal, even though
like I do try to work out. No, I don't,
I work out and everything. I'm more like a moderation,
so like if I just feel like I don't eat it,
but not too crazy. The only thing is I do
once a year, I always have a bowl of froyo
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every year, like clock frozen yog I'll go, I'll go,
and it's around that time. Usually that's gonna come up
pretty soon. But I usually I crave it once a year.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Sweets or something or I do. But I'm not really
like a like.
Speaker 13 (39:31):
An ice cream or frozen yogurt kind of girl. So
like once a year, I'll just crave it and I'll
have it.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I'll tell you this, if it didn't do the damage
that it does to my body, I'll tell you what
I could eat every night.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I'm not even lying.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Cheesecake. I could eat, Chris. I could eat a slice
of cheesecake every single night. And I'm not exaggerating that
vanilla bean from cheesecake factoryous.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
It's delicious. This is like a drug. I could eat
that all the time.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Something.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
No, No, I'm off of it. Because diet. Yeah, I'm
down to.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
So do you have a cheat meal for your during
your your little stretch of die?
Speaker 10 (40:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
No, I try to stay off of it. If anything, Chris,
I'll do pizza, not the whole crust. I'll eat the
cheese and the sauce off the top of the pizza.
That that would be because the sauce is what's no good.
The cheese is okay, But I'll eat crust. Yeah, I
won't eat the crust. The crust is bad for you.
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But but the sauce could be a little sweet too.
But if you take the cheese I like, and I
like a little bit of the sauce.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Wow.
Speaker 13 (40:44):
Well it's yeah, it's not exactly the diet. It's really
just like eating in moderation. I feel like sometimes we
like diet culture is just it kind of promotes having
unhealthy relationships with food that.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Is better.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Of course that's what you want to do, but there's
certain things that you eat that is just bad for you.
Gonna put like pasta, like it's just there's no way around.
My vice is sweets. You like sweets, cakes, cakes? All
that can you eat like a whole bag of chocolate
chip cookies or something.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
If you if nobody was watching, I mean, if I
wasn't worried about my belly, I could. They had Crumble
cookies at the TV show yesterday. Robrum Crumble is the best.
But I tell you, I mean they take me out
for about three days if I doing it's just it's
(41:36):
too much for me. So all right, it's the odd
couple hour number two in the books. Keep it locked
though we got one hour left.
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the bottom of the hour. We'll talk to Caitlin Clark
WNBA all of that good stuff with her.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Uh So, don't miss that, Rob.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
They just showed Tatum, Jalen Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum
walking in together, you know, laughing and like friends and
all that walking into the arena.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh I thought they would be on edge, you know,
they're up three.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
How do you really think.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Jason Tatum feels that Brown is going to you know,
likely going to win the finals MVP at least right now,
he's the finals MVP front runner. He was the Eastern
Conference Finals MVP. How do you think he really feels
the inside about that.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I don't think he's like, like, those things happen, you
can't You're not gonna win them all. You know, everybody's
not Michael Jordan, even though you know what I mean, Like,
I just I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I don't think he should be just happy that they're.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Going to you know, get off the get their monkey
off their back, Chris, you know, like that's really if
I'm him, that's what I'm happy the most about, because
once you have one in your back pocket, you could
just play now, you know, like like that that's the
thing you want to do.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
When we said that about Anthony Davis, we thought he'd
go to another No.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right, I mean that's what it should have been.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
He should have been the focal point and all that
and let Lebron restauring the rest.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But that's something else.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
But but it does give you some leeway and breathing
room Chris, you know, like you can see whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
He's a main man.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I got my championship. I played whatever we won. We
might not win again, we might not get back again.
That's the luck of the draw, right, But but I
got it done. And that's really what it comes down to,
is getting it done. So whoever's the MVP? You know, Hey,
it's not my turn this time. Who knows the next
time we go next year, maybe I'm the guy who's
(03:00):
who is the MVP? You know, Like that's the way
you have to look at it.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, Look, I do think he definitely is focused on
the championship, and when we win this championship, it's just
gonna be phenomenal. Like I really think that's the first
and foremost thing in his mind.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And he's going to be legitimately.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Happy and overjoyed and relieved that he won his first championship.
Might end up Brobb being his only championship, cause I'm
sure he's going to be hyped about that.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Because you're not only you, I know you you always
had your questions about the Celtics and with with with
uh legitimate reasons because of some of the stuff that
we've seen and some of the games, so they were
all legitimate.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It wasn't illegitimate, it was legitimate.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
But you know, once they get it done, Chris, you
just that that that can't be a conversation or narrative, right,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Try them, right, I don't. I don't believe it though
they can get it done, right, it's done.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
But I also know, rob.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Just human nature, and I just know when I played sports,
obviously not close to the NBA level, but you know,
you do want to shine too, you know, and and
you settle into roles like when I played and I
was a star or whatever it might have been, whatever
(04:25):
sport whatever, you know, you you like you want to win,
of course, but you also do want to kind of
get your yards if it's football, get your numbers if
it's basketball. You know, like that's a part of like
your identity on anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Everybody wants to feel like they contributed and had a
role in it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So that's well that you.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
In roles though, Like so if you're a role player
that you're not even like you can really play free.
You're not thinking about I gotta be the MVP, you
know what I mean, Like that just be icing on
the cake. For you if you're the second best player.
I've been in situation Robers like the second best player,
(05:08):
and you settle into that too. And if you're the
second best player and you've accepted that, then if the
best player gets the MVP Award or whatever, you cool
with it. But when you're the best player, you kind
of expected again. I think him and Jalen are completely fine.
I don't think there's any beef. And yesterday, you know,
(05:29):
I did a whole rant on how he should not
let anybody get him.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Down if he doesn't win the finals MVP.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But inside, you also have that competitive nature even with
your teammates, and you want to shine. And really Rob,
it could just it could serve as motivation for him
going forward.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And that's Jalen too. Like Rob, I don't doubt, you.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Know, Jalen's made noise about how you know, he was
upset that he was left off the All NBA team,
and I get it. I had on my third team
and they won sixty four games, they ran away from
the Eastern Conference, and they only had one All NBA player.
That's kind of, you know, crazy, And so I think
though he used that as motivation, and I think Tatum
(06:15):
will do the same.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
So it's a it could be a good thing for
the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
But yesterday Rob, he was asked by a reporter, Jason Tatum,
about this being a historic team.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Like the reporter ran off some records. They're fifteen and two.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Note that's the best record of any Celtics team ever
in the playoffs. They could be the first team to
sweep the conference finals. In the NBA Finals. If they
win the night, Rob, they'll be eighty and twenty. That'll
be the second best record in Celtics history, the eighty
six Celtics. With some people think, you know, or at
least they've been in that discussion for the best team ever,
(06:55):
they were eighty two and eighteen.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
This would be the second best.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And they asked Jason Tatum, like, beyond just winning a championship,
how does it feel too, you know, maybe you'll actually
be on a historically great, one of the all time
great teams or certainly won all time great Celtics team.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Ever, what are your thoughts about that? Here's what he said.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
There's never been a Celtic team ever with a better
playoff record than what you guys have to this point.
You guys have a chance to be second all time
in the eighty sixteen when eighty two and eighteen, you
guys could be two games away from that as like
the second best Celtic team ever in terms of record.
How much more would that add to it when you
think of all that this franchise has done. You guys
could be at the top of a whole lot of
lists in that record book.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I didn't know that that would be really cool.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
But you guys probably say, we didn't play anybody to
get here, So did that do it again next year?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Rup?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I mean, he's heard the conversation, and that was the
talk before they got here, that whoever comes out of
the West is going to beat the Celtics. The Celtics
didn't beat anybody. Everybody was banged up. Sure they should
have won all those games, they didn't. They had the
easiest path to the postseason, I mean, to the finals,
that's what, right, That was the conversation, and instead they're
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looking at a three to zero lead against the team.
Everybody thought from the West that the Western team, no
matter who it was, that Denver had to get knocked out,
Minnesota had to get knocked out. You know, Oka See
had to get knocked out. And guess what they still
still still still is in a situation, Chris, where they're
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going to make easy work of the team that most
people thought had this dynamic backcourt and had the toughest role.
They beat fifty three fifty win teams. They beat three
fifty win teams. Look at where they are. Does that
matter now?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I was one that was talking about their path, no
doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
The three the only one.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Of the most of them were banged up.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
But all that's out the window now.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Like beating Dallas, particularly if they sweep them, but even
just beating them in seven, just beating them period ends
all that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
It ends it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
It doesn't matter, Rob, don't We don't remember the path
of teams three years ago.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
We just remember did you win the championship or not?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And so beating Dallas, which has two future Hall of
famers on the team, beating Dallas, which, as you said,
they beat the Clippers with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.
Kawhi was banged up, but still they James Harden was there.
They beat the number one seed in the West, Oklahoma
City with Shae Gilgers Alexander, the second highest ranked guy
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in the MVP voting. Then they beat Minnesota, the team
that beat the defending champions, and so beating them, Rob
beating Dallas, that ends all that talk about, Oh, they
ran through a week east, they didn't have any competition
in the.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Fives, Rob, We talk about it with the two thousand
and eight Celtics.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
We don't care that they went seven with Atlanta in
the first round one right, who cares.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Doesn't matter one iota.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And so now the only thing I will say is,
and this is real nitpicking, if they sweep tonight and
they end up sixteen and two, it still is what
it is, and you gotta give them props for that record.
I would say, if they face better competition, you don't
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think they would have went sixteen and two. But who knows.
They this would be their eleven straight victory, Rob.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
They haven't lost in like a month.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It's crazy. Christmas's crazy, and that would be one ain
no on the road.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Right, right. So it's been a great team.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And the one thing he did say that I agree with,
I agree with a lot of it, but when he
said we just gotta go win it again next year, Rob,
I think all the talk about is this and all
time great team. At least in Boston, it's the talk.
(11:27):
I don't think nationally, but all to talk about is
it's a great team and they got the numbers to
back it up.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
But hardly anybody on the national.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Level believes they're an all time great team, regardless of
the numbers. Rob, I think that's good for these Celtics.
I think that dangles a carrot out in front of them.
Let's show everybody again if we win it again, they
can't say a thing about us, as long as they
have the right viewpoint and take it one game, one
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day at a time. If they got that carrot out there, yeah,
we're gonna show them. Still got the chip on their shoulder.
That's great, I think Rob. The Kansas City Chiefs right
now going for this three peat, the first in Super
Bowl history, I think that's great for them because you know,
championship teams can have a problem with complacency, and the
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Chiefs are not complacent because they're looking at we want
to be the first to win three straight. And I
think the Celtics will not be complacent next year because
they'll be like, yeah, look, we won sixty four. We
won games by eleven points, We won the East by
fourteen games.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
We had the best playoff record in Celtics history.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And they still don't think we're an all time great team.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Let's show them.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I think it'll be good for other two motivation, something
to shoot for. And also I think teams understand that too,
about you know, solidifying it and brought it up a
million times, Chris, and we do talk about this team
a lot. But the two thousand and four Pistons when
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they went back, Chris, it was just the idea that
it wasn't a fluke. They didn't win, they lost in
seven games. They beat checking Kobe, Oh, the Lakers. They
were squabbling, blah blah blah. But did they but they
fought all the way back down or were they down
two to the Spurs came back, forced the game seven,
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lost by five or six points. You don't leave, Chris,
even though they didn't went back to back feeling like
that twenty fourteen was a fluke?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Do you no?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And you're right a large part of it.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
If they had say, gotten beating the second round, rob,
there would have been a lot of talk about it. Man.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
You know that just slacking. Kobe is going through the trial, right.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And and you know Malone was heard and they weren't
getting along.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
It would have been all that rock.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
It would have been all that And so you're right,
So what they do like if they want to go
down as like an all time great and they got
a chance.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Rob, Look, we don't know necessarily.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I don't think I think Tatum and Brown or future
Hall of famers if assuming they win this series, Rob,
those two as Hall of famers no matter what. I
also think though, Drew Holliday and our Horford will probably
be Hall of Famers if they win this championship, And
we don't I don't think Tatum and Brown are like,
you know, ultra ultra all time greats.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
But who knows what we'll think in ten years.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
We just gotta see.
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Speaker 4 (14:49):
About to be the MVP. How does Tatum feel about that?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
And is this a historically great Celtics team assuming they win?
Is this ain't history great Boston Celtics team or even
NBA team of all time.
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Speaker 4 (17:11):
What are your thoughts?
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Canela and Denver you're on the odd couple of Fox
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What else fellas? And at the Father's Day weekend, Chris,
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Speaker 1 (17:27):
Now there you go just far too, my man.
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Speaker 6 (17:31):
Hey Chris, real quick.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
I'm not sure if you haven't been a pert damn boy,
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Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yeah, that's where I'm speaking at.
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From the church.
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To her, that's nice.
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Oh great, He's gonna be there and great out there.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
Anyhow. In terms of the not yet, I think they're
gonna go out back to back fall I'm gonna do guys.
They're just about to get the monkey alter back because
they've been a good team for a while now. So
this just kind of happened, right, they had a bad Yeah,
and then next year, I mean they go to good team,
they can do it again. But until they go back
to back then we can have that discussion. So luck tomorrow,
Chris Man me, thank you Man.
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Speaker 6 (18:57):
Yeah, it's not the greatest SELFI No, I wouldn't put
them there, but I think were with Tatum. Of course,
he wants to have the most valuable player for the finals,
but I think this time he's he really don't care.
I just think that he is just going to appreciate
getting the ring because they have failed. Yeah, but the
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last four years they probably really failed, and we all
know that they should have beat Golden State that year.
But I mean, Seth was deep, was maxaphe But I'm
just saying they was the better team, and now that
it's Tier one game away. I don't think Tatum, of
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course he's not gonna get the finals, but I think
he's just gonna appreciate this moment and if they get back,
You're right, they're gonna have to do it again and
he can have another chance because he did the same
thing with Golden State. With with you know, after they
won their first they went back getting lost. Of course
they got KD. But they just have to do it again.
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So for us to put them in that conversation for no.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Doubt.
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Got Sabrina Merchant, who covers the NBA, the WNB.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I'm sorry for the athletic. She will join us around.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
She will lead to Larry Merchant. I don't know, I
have no idea.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Whenever I hear that name, he's legendary, you know what
I mean, Larry Merchant. Saw just yeah, cur But we.
Speaker 12 (20:36):
Got Steve the Sager Steve and just two w NBA
games tonight, by the way, Washington one and twelve has
a halftime lead forty seven thirty six.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
He took against what's the attendance at that game?
Speaker 12 (20:48):
Good question, and the LA Sparks with a halftime lead
of forty four to thirty nine at Minnesota. We've got
Game four of the NBA Finals coming up at about
ten fifteen minutes with five seed Dallas trying to stay
alive down three games to none against the one seed
Boston Celtics. If there's a Game five, it would be
at Boston on Monday night. By the way, Stanley Cup
(21:09):
Game four is Saturday night. That could be ending quickly.
Florida is up three games, another one.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Both series could be sweeps, Chris, even the NHL Stanley
Cup Finals.
Speaker 12 (21:18):
That is actually a kind of a rarity. We were
talking about this a bit last night. The last time
both Stanley Cup and NBA Finals each ended in sweeps
was nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Wow.
Speaker 12 (21:29):
Wow, So yeah, it's been a while. At the US
opened Ludwig Obert as a one stroke lead in Pinehurst,
North Carolina, Bright Samba correct, thank you big, It took
a while, but yes, from Sweden, Bryce and De'shambo in
a three way tie for second Tiger Woods missed the
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The Washington Commanders reportedly signed first round quarterback Jaden Daniels
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and ex Baltimore safety Tony Jefferson signed with the LA Chargers.
Coming out of retirement, UFL kicker Jake Bay, who had
a handful of sixty yarders in their season, will reportedly
signed with the Detroit Lions. He played for the Michigan Panthers.
The UFL championship game is on Fox TV Sunday, five
pm Eastern Times, San Antonio against Birmingham. The MVP of
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the United Football League was Birmingham's quarterback Adrian Martinez. US
women's soccer down to number five in the new World rankings.
Men's euro Championship started today Germany. The host whip Scotland
five to one. In baseball at Wrigley Field today, Saint
Louis a three to nothing winner over the Chicago Cubs.
Among the games going after a rain delay at the
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start in Boston, the Yankees lead to nothing over the
Red Sox, and after a rain delay at the start,
the Mets at Homer scoreless. With the Padres in the
top of the second. The Nationals lead eight to one
over the Marlins in the bottom of the six. Phillies
with a win tonight would be forty seven and twenty two.
Phillies are leading to one at Baltimore in the bottom
of the sixth inning, and it's already Brave seven to
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one over the Rays in the bottom of the fourth,
but Braves outfielder Michael Harris left early with hamstring. Titanesspeck
to you.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
All right, Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
We're the Eye Couple live from the Tirak dot com studios.
Our next guest covers women's basketball for the Athletic We
welcome in, Sabrina Merchant, Sabrina.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Welcome to the Oda, Sabrina.
Speaker 12 (23:21):
How are you.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
Thanks so much for having me. I'm doing well, guys, ChRI.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It's great to have you. Now.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
With Caitlin Clark coming into the league, you had to
know obviously it would be a lot of buzz and
storylines and things like that, But it seems like every
other day there's some new controversy or story or whatever
you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Surrounding her, not even a lot of her own doing.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Are you surprised by just the level of I don't
know intensity that has surrounded her, both regarding basketball and
just all types of other stuff since she's entered the league.
Speaker 11 (24:02):
Yeah, I agree, I am absolutely surprised. I knew the
basketball was going to be of a huge interest just
because of what happened when she was at Iowa and
every single you know, television network they were on was
another viewership rucker, and you know all of the big
crowds they threw. But I don't think I expected her
to be this cultural touchstone to the point where, you know,
every comment she makes gets dissected, and you know, we're
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talking about little things that happened on and off the court.
I mean, she's entering like Lebron t bow zone here.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's kind of I'm glad, you.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Know, being Yeah, polar and T ball was polarizing, right,
I mean, do you look at it as a polarizing
figure at this point?
Speaker 11 (24:45):
You know, I think she kind of just represents whatever
you want to latch onto, right, Like, uh, if you
see her as someone who's this rising tide that's lifting
all boats in women's basketball, or if you see her
as this one white heterosexual girl who's taking attention away
from you know, the black women that make up the
majority of the WNBA.
Speaker 10 (25:04):
Like I just.
Speaker 11 (25:06):
Her existence allows people to latch on to different things.
And I don't think personally anything about Caitlyn is all
that polarizing other than whether you think she should be
that ball down or not. But it's just the way
I think.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Let me say this, the polarizing part, not all that.
But there are people out there who think she gets
a lot of more tension because she's white, and I
think that, you know what I mean. I think it's that,
not her beliefs or anything. There are people out there
just thought the coverage of her has been over the top.
Speaker 11 (25:39):
Yeah, And I mean we've seen really great white players
come into the league before. I mean, Brandon Stewart won
four national titles at Connecticut, Kelsey Plumb was the Division
one leading scorer before Caitlyn Clark. The covers of that
wasn't anything like this, right, I think there is something
special about Caitlyn just how magnetic she is on the
basketball court, whether it's the passing, whether it's the scoring.
So yeah, I'm I'm sure the race is part of it, obviously,
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but there is something special about her that is making
her unique and it's you know, part of it is
the moment that we're in where women's basketball is on
television more often, and I all allows female athletes to
market themselves better during college. But I think it's a
confluence of things, right, Like we can't ignore the race
part of it, but I also think that ignores just
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a lot of what Caitlin individually brings to the table.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, I'm going to say, and this stop me if
I'm wrong. I do believe because she was making the
logo threes and the long I think the Steph Curry
effect is what attracted people to her. If she was
playing your traditional women's basketball, I don't think it would
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be this.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
How much does that play into it? The shots she
made in college.
Speaker 11 (26:52):
I think you're absolutely right. The Steph Curry effect is
a huge part of it. I mean, you think about
when Steph sort of burst out of the national scene
with the Warriors, like twelve twenty thirteen, when they started
making their playoff runs, Like every little kid wanted to
shoot like that, right, And now you look at Caitlin
and she has a similar shooting range, and she has
a similar player when she plays, you know, she's got
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a little bit of a you know, a mean streak
to her, but she also has a lot of fun
when she's on the court, and the hit it head passes,
like everything about her game is very entertainment friendly. So
I think I think the stuff Curry comparison is absolutely
spot on. Just the way that she has stretched the
basketball court is unique, and it's not like a lot
of people were playing before her.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
The ratings for the league are up, the attendance for
the league is up, and look, she's not the best
player in the league. Obviously, she wasn't not the best
player to enter the league. So that's legitimate when when
other players talk about all the other great players before her.
But she is the reason, primarily, you know, the the
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overwhelming majority of the reason for this increase in popularity.
Do you think around whether it's around the league or
in the front offices or the league off is whatever,
is there an appreciation of that or is there a
denial that she's the reason or what do you think
the feelings are about her? Because she clearly is the
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reason that the popularity is skyrocket.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
I mean, it's hard to deny that she's at the
very least a catalyst for everything that's happening, right, Like
you said, the WNBA on this steady growth curve over
the last two years, with this explosion being times with
her and Ingle Reefs and Cameron Briank and the rest
of this fantastic rookie class that has just come in.
I think, you know, it's undeniable that Caitlin plays an
enormous part of it. And I think the league obviously
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recognizes it because Indiana had one national TV game all
of last season, then they're on TV thirty six out
of forty games this year. I think it was thirty
eight once we realized what the power of the Indiana
Fever Chicago skymatchup was going to be. I was that
another one coming up this Sunday that's on CBS. So
when you put a team that won five games two
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years ago on national TV all but two times, it
definitely suggests that you know where the golden goose is.
So I do believe that the WNBA realizes what a special,
special asset they have in Caitlyn Clark. And yeah, maybe
we're going overboard putting Indiana in eleven games and twenty
days over the start of the season and watching them struggle,
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But people want to see her like. The audience has
not diminished, the enthusiasm around her has not dissipated. So
I definitely think the league realizes what they have here.
They're going to try to create as many opportunities to
get Caitlin on big stages as possible. Obviously the Olympics
is not going to be one of them, but I'm
sure they'll hype the hell out of All Star, which
she'll definitely be a part of.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, I look, I acknowledge she's not. I don't think
she's one of the twelve best players in the league.
I do think she's having an excellent rookie not maybe
not excellent, but a very good route has to I
mean one pace to be you know, fifteen to five
and five.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
That be only the fifth player ever.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
But I thought she should have been on the team.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I thought they made a mistake not putting her on
the team because I thought it would have been It
would have brought more eyeballs to women's professional basketball in America,
and I think they're gonna win no matter what.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
So I thought it was a mistake not to have her.
What were your thoughts?
Speaker 11 (30:29):
I mean, I agree with you. I wrote about this extensively,
getting back to February of this year's saying that I
thought Caitlin was going.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
To be on the roster.
Speaker 11 (30:36):
I didn't even really think it was much of a
question at that point. And obviously a little bit of
a tough start to the season just for Indiana relatively speaking,
and the fact that Caitlin wasn't able to go to
any team USA camps because she played, you know, through
the national championship game at Iowa made it a challenge
to put her on the roster. But I mean, this
is a forty minute game. You have a twelve player roster.
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You don't need all twelve players, really, and it's not
like they took the best twelve players in the WNBA anyway.
It's there are a lot of different priorities that go
into creating a national team. Like, let's be real, you know,
there's some players who just have equity with USA Basketball,
who have been there for a while and they get
the benefit of the doubt and get to keep going,
and that's great. Like part of the culture of the
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national team is to have veterans, but it's also to
have young players, you know, So there's that balance, and
I think it was an err on there far. I
think it was an own goal where you know you're
going to have a great team regardless of whether you
say Kaitlin or not. And frankly, Caitlyn's always been very
good on the national stage, Like she's represented USA Basketball
at the youth levels and it's done extraordinarily well. She
was the MVP of the U nine team tournament three
(31:39):
years ago. So it's not like you know, you're putting
somebody who has the zero capability of being on the
national team. And I think I think, like you said,
they would have been fine either way, and even if
she makes the team in twenty twenty eight, like, I
don't know the Kaitlin Clark is ever going to be
this version of Caitlin Clark again, right, to not capitalize
on this specific moment of what works, it just feels
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like a mistake. And it's not like USA Basketball always
takes the most deserving basketball candidates, Like there's always politics
that go into it. So for them to draw the
line here was very strange to me.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
No, I don't think it was.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I really don't I think that a they thought a
she would take a lot of attention away from all
the other girls. They've already all the other women, they've
already won what seven in a row.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
They're gonna win whether she's on the team or not.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
And I just think that it was more about that
that they didn't want all the other stuff that comes
along with it, and then to have to feel like
if she's not playing, then they're going to criticize them
for not playing her a lot of minutes, you know
what I mean, and other people have put in time,
energy and effort, they get pushed to the side.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I really believe that is what it was, not anything sinister.
I just think that they really thought she hasn't earned
this yet and her time will come.
Speaker 11 (33:00):
I just I don't think the USC basketball usually played
by those roles. They always put players who are fresh
out of college or one year out of college on
the team who haven't necessarily earned their spot.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
How about William, Let me say this that Shaquille O'Neill
was passed over.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
She's about women, I know, but.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I'm just trying to say, like, Shaquille O'Neill was a big,
big time people have been passed over before.
Speaker 11 (33:19):
Oh, I agree, It's uh, there's no real rhyme or
reason her constituency to how these decisions are made. I'll
give you that's all. I just think that when you
have the most popular player in the world personally, I
would take her.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Okay, before you go, we got about a minute. I
want to ask you a basketball question before you go.
Aliah Boston. Now, there was a lot of hype that
you know, obviously she was Rookie of the Year last year,
and with her and Caitlyn, you know, it would be,
you know, really be something special. And she has not
played close to what she did last I think she's
(33:56):
getting a little bit better lately, but she really hasn't
been what she was last here.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 11 (34:03):
You know, I think the adjustment to the style of
play has been really hard for really, you know, she
was the focal point of the offense a year ago
where everything ran through the post for the Fever, and
naturally with Caitlyn coming in, it's a lot more perimeter
have either playing at a different pace. That's just never
a style of play that she's ever played, whether that's
at Indiana or dating back to South Carolina. I also
(34:25):
don't think she came in great shape to camp a
lot of WNBA players, you know, they play overseas during
the off season and they're pretty much just always in
game shape. And Leah Boston worked for NBC Sports during
the off season, and you know, hadn't touched the basks
or hadn't really played a full game since September of
twenty twenty three. And you know, you saw the way
that she started the season. She didn't look like she
was really capable of running the floor with Caitlin. I've
(34:47):
heard that when she was at the US national team
camp in April at the Final four, like they didn't
think she was in shape there. So I think you're
starting to see her just get into basketball conditioning at
this point, and her life game, this one's recent one
they play against Atlanta was the most like twenty twenty
three of the a Bostrom fifteen yet. So I'm hopeful
that it's mostly just a conditioning issue and she'll resemble
(35:09):
the player she thought we thought she was going to
be sooner off. But yeah, that's just a huge part
of why Indiana hasn't been a successful as most people thoughts.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
All Right, that's Sabrina Merchant from The Athletic Thank.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
You A live.
Speaker 11 (35:23):
Yes, yeah, thank you so much for having on yep.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Shop Talk is next Chris and Rob the Eye Couple
Fox Sports Radio.
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(35:56):
Rob live from the tire Rack dot Com studios.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
It's time y' all for shop talk.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
All right, Chris and Rob.
Speaker 10 (36:03):
It is time for shop talk, where we talk about
things in the world of sports, or maybe not so
much in the world of sports, but we're kind of
cheating on this one and c on the word of
cheating today because we're actually gonna talk about football ish.
It's actually Julian Edelman talking about Tom Brady. The shop
Talk today is cheat meals, guys, because there's actually just
(36:24):
a couple of days ago or so, there was an
article about Julian Edelman and he was exposing Tom Brady's
a little cheat meal. And we know Brady's a very
healthy guy, you know, always strict regimen of diets and
all that stuff. So apparently, uh, Julian Edelman, let's slip
the you know what's his real cheat meal? And I'll
tell you what, guys, he said, it was in fact
(36:46):
one thing, and he was actually quoted guys with Tom
would always have one chicken wing for his guilty pleasure
before he would huddle off to bed and Allen and
he said and emphasized, a single chicken wing is what
Tom had as a cheap meal.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Rob that.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Why even have a wing? I get if he was
like one potato chip? Chris, you can't do it, right,
I mean seriously, like what kind of pleasure you getting
out of one chicken wing?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Man?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I can't. I could see it if you just this meal,
I can eat ten wings or whatever it is. One
one would make me mad.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, you know what I would think, like to me
at the cheap would be like one chocolate chip cookie
or one Oakland oat mill, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Chris, Like, yeah, like that would be to me.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
But a chicken wing like that doesn't even sound like
really that that's your I know I couldn't do one wing.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I know that no, I you could do one basket maybe,
but not one bizarre now now, Patrick, so you've been,
as Rob was saying, you've been on this kind of
stringent diet.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah, are you doing it? Do you have a cheat meal? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (38:05):
So I do have a cheap meal, and I don't
go like it's not really that's it's certainly nowhere close
to Tom Brady strict of things. I'm just being active
and just watching what I eat a little bit, kind
of like calorie counting, I guess you would say. But no,
I do have a cheap meal. U. I don't do
it very often, maybe like once every month or two.
But there is one meal in particular I do like.
It's actually really simple, Rob. It's a chicken chicken palm
(38:29):
with a little bit some spaghetti and nothing too crazy,
not like a big pot full of spaghetti.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
The spaghetti is no good for you. Yeah right, I
just do a good a decent spaghetti. Last night spaghetti
sghetti is so good.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I'm good, but not good.
Speaker 10 (38:44):
I love the ZD I love all that stuff. I mean,
and it's just not good. I'm a pasta. I'm a
pasta ficianado lovely.
Speaker 13 (38:52):
I hate spaghetti. I was going to ask you spaghetti.
I don't really have like a cheap meal, even though
like I do try to work out. No, I don't,
I work out and everything. I'm more like a moderation,
so like if I just feel like I don't eat it,
but not too crazy. The only thing is I do
once a year, I always have a bowl of froyo
(39:16):
every year, like clock frozen yog I'll go, I'll go,
and it's around that time. Usually that's gonna come up
pretty soon. But I usually I crave it once a year.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Sweets or something or I do. But I'm not really
like a like.
Speaker 13 (39:31):
An ice cream or frozen yogurt kind of girl. So
like once a year, I'll just crave it and I'll
have it.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I'll tell you this, if it didn't do the damage
that it does to my body, I'll tell you what
I could eat every night.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I'm not even lying.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Cheesecake. I could eat, Chris. I could eat a slice
of cheesecake every single night. And I'm not exaggerating that
vanilla bean from cheesecake factoryous.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
It's delicious. This is like a drug. I could eat
that all the time.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Something.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
No, No, I'm off of it. Because diet. Yeah, I'm
down to.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
So do you have a cheat meal for your during
your your little stretch of die?
Speaker 10 (40:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
No, I try to stay off of it. If anything, Chris,
I'll do pizza, not the whole crust. I'll eat the
cheese and the sauce off the top of the pizza.
That that would be because the sauce is what's no good.
The cheese is okay, But I'll eat crust. Yeah, I
won't eat the crust. The crust is bad for you.
(40:36):
But but the sauce could be a little sweet too.
But if you take the cheese I like, and I
like a little bit of the sauce.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Wow.
Speaker 13 (40:44):
Well it's yeah, it's not exactly the diet. It's really
just like eating in moderation. I feel like sometimes we
like diet culture is just it kind of promotes having
unhealthy relationships with food that.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Is better.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Of course that's what you want to do, but there's
certain things that you eat that is just bad for you.
Gonna put like pasta, like it's just there's no way around.
My vice is sweets. You like sweets, cakes, cakes? All
that can you eat like a whole bag of chocolate
chip cookies or something.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
If you if nobody was watching, I mean, if I
wasn't worried about my belly, I could. They had Crumble
cookies at the TV show yesterday. Robrum Crumble is the best.
But I tell you, I mean they take me out
for about three days if I doing it's just it's
(41:36):
too much for me. So all right, it's the odd
couple hour number two in the books. Keep it locked
though we got one hour left.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Y'all know what to do. Fox Sports Radio,
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