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August 7, 2026 38 mins

Rob and Kelvin argue who is to blame in the Kawhi Leonard situation after new details emerge that Kawhi had a multi-million dollar deal with Daktronics, Plus Former NFL QB and Current Fox Sports Radio NFL Analyst Shaun King swings by the show to discuss the Baker Mayfield contract negotiations. Finally, Rob and Kelvin discuss where the downfall of the Grizzlies stems from. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
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Speaker 4 (01:22):
Oh oh, it's been a while since we heard that
it has and I got some things to ask him too.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
When we talk to that's right, So Sean King give
us some NFL stuff coming up in about twenty eight
minutes that and much more coming up. But Kelvin, yeah,
our number two. As we talked about it, there was
news Kawhi Lennard news about this never ending story.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Here were you never ending story like that movie when
I was a kid, Alex you remember that one movie?

Speaker 6 (01:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yeah, didn't the dog look like I used to think
it looked like a big corn on the cob, the
little dog in that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
That's funny. The little thing was it was it creamstyle corner? No,
it was.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
It was a job. It was on the cop. It
was still on a cop.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
So we got woah, this is uh Rob. We've been
talking about this back their year. Pablo Tory ain't playing around.
So Pablo Tory finds out his podcast on the latest
episode there that apparently that aspiration deal that Kawhi was
you know, had allegedly isn't the only one. So scoreboard

(02:29):
manufacturer Daktronics, they built that one hundred million dollar video boards.
By the way, I still haven't been to the into
a dome. I know you've been there a handful of times.
The clip into it just spectacular, like, well, so the
company that built all those screens in there, and they
had apparently hired Kawhi to a multimillion dollar sponsorship deal

(02:49):
for which he has done, of course, no work, And
that is according to Pablo Tory, And of course he
has some sources. One at a high level source set
under contract for into a Dome went on to say
that he's a thousand percent sure that they were circumventing
the salary cap when it comes to this. So people
with it, yeah, and they went on to say real

(03:11):
quick that they're not a company that you would see
a celebrity endorser for.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
It wasn't coming out on their end.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
The Clippers were technically kind of funding it, and it
was funneling money from the Clippers to Daktronics back to Kawhi.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I'll let you start.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, are you on this because you know where I'm
going to make my deal. You know where you are,
and I rather hear you get where you are.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
My main issue is just a little bit the contrast
that I think of where you're gonna go is if
you're Adam Silver and the whole point of the collective
bargaining agreement. Right, you get to the owners, you get
the players, they all come together and we all agree.
You'll say, all right, we all agree on this. This
certain amount of money, certain amount of dollars is what
you have to spend. Think it's like nearly two hundred

(03:54):
million or whatever it is. And here are the rules.
Here's what you can do, here's what you can't do.
And the point is to make it fair for all team.
So everybody's on the up and up, and they all
have a chance to compete, and so you have teams
that are circumventing that.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
And to me, this is where I have issue with Kawhi.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
If this was just a scenario where he said, hey,
I'm Clippers want to come back to LA and from Riverside,
which is, you know, right outside of LA and it
helped me out and now I will figure it out.
Let's get you there, and oh, we all we got
this thing some endorsement, and Kawhi is just kind of oh,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
He and Uncle.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Dennis, specifically Uncle Dennis when you go back to the Raptors,
try to pull this move off with the Raptors, and
the Raptors said, no, we love you, we want a
championship with you. We want you to extend the contract,
stay with us, but we ain't doing those shady stuff.
And then for them to just go to LA and
not just go on the up and up, but say hey,
we'll come only if you signed a regular contract with

(04:45):
the NBA on the up and up, and then we
do some shady stuff. And that's where you getting too,
the Aspiration deal. And now we're finding out allegedly about
this Dektronic deal. So I feel Kawhi Leonard is absolutely
responsible because if Uncle Dinnis.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Is representing you, you're all in.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
You go for this, you sign on, you're getting the
reaping the benefits for it, and it ain't had to do
no work.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Clearly you're a part of it. Now.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Clearly Steve Balmer is a part of this as well,
and he in the organization for being the ones funneling
the money you know, going with this, you know that's
paying Aspiration again, this random company which looks like it
might have been a shell company. And now Dektronics, which yeah,
we built your screen, but you're putting a little extra
door in there so that we can get into Kawhi
for another sponsorship and endorsement, which he ain't did nothing for.

(05:28):
This is where you gotta make sure you levered the
hammer if you're Adam Silver. My last point, but and
it's a big butt we're talking maybe Nicki Minajs.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
CARDI be Meg the Stallion.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
I going to say bo Sheba, but but Sheeba, it
ain't out in it, Rob, Steve Balmer is not about
to get in crazy trouble.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
We talk about all the time. Riches's owner in the
league just built this beautiful into it dome. Adam Silver
doesn't come down on anybody about anything, and so it's
nothing's gonna happen. And I also think the owners, Rob,
I I think the owners who would have to get
involved in this, I don't think they want you to
make a big fuss about it. If Adam Silver doesn't
say the owners, hey, what do you guys want to do?

(06:08):
Because I think they got skeleton in their closets. I
think they've got some things that they've done. And I
don't think Kawhy is the only one that is part
taking into some of this shady going on with some
extra money, some random endorsements, and I think they're like, look,
just find Steve Balmer a couple bucks.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
He's got it, he's good for it.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Maybe Kawhi has to, you know, miss a few games
and then we move on, because I don't want you
to start come lifting up our rocks, you know, lifting
up our under our bed, looking at our closets and
finding out what we got going on, because I feel
that there has to be some more of this.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Now. I'm not saying every team, but some more.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
And if you're the owners and you start picking on
Steve Barmer, he gonna start looking at y'all too.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
See, here's my issue. This isn't about Kawhi Leonard. It
just isn't.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Steve Balmer and the Clippers organizations are the ones who
have to.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
Follow the rules.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
You just brought it up, Kelvin.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Kawhi asked for some of the monkey business with the
with the Raptors. They said no, thank you, but no
thank you. Thanks for the championship, but we're not going
down that road. It's just not about Kawhi. I don't
care what anybody says. I could ask for anything, I
could ask Fox Sports Radio to do something illegal. Don't

(07:21):
pay me, pay me under the table, Kelvin. So I
don't have to pay taxes right, and Fox Sports Radio
said no, we want you on the air, we want
to pay you, but we gotta go through the tax
system and the government. No way, no, how are we
paying you under the table, because they're the one that's

(07:42):
gonna face the brunt.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Of it right for doing the chicanery.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
And that's why I think this is about Steve Balmer.
You can focus all you want on Kawhi Leonard, Stop
it ain't he can't make them do this. He could
ask for whatever he wants. I want half for the moon.
I think it's misguided. Go after Steve Balmer and his

(08:11):
people who turned the other way, who did not follow
the rules, and the collective bargaining who were trying to pull.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
A fast one on the other owners who are.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Supposedly following the rules on how much money is to
be spent and how you're supposed to do it.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
You see what I'm saying, I do.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
But that's when the commissioner comes back, go ahead, what's
the possible I'm not.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
The pushback is it takes two to tango.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
So if I'm asking you to do something wrong and
illegal and you say cool, I'm down, and then I
received said money for illegal activity.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
How am I not in the wrong?

Speaker 5 (08:50):
If I got drugs offer you you say, cool, I
want to buy the drugs. You take the drugs, but
and you give me money. Are we not broke in places?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Not in this case, because the rules and the way
the CBA and everything set up.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Is that the only caloriy salary you're supposed to get
Kawhi making it up okay for years one hundred million
is not you get twenty five.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
It's not the person who asks you, it's the person
who actually does it. Kawhi can't do it by itself.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Rod Parker, No, he not cast a check. If not
casting the checks that I'm in on it.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
The team is the one that has to draw the line,
not the player asking for you to be do something
they illegal or against.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Parker, I don't even know who you are right now
selling it on the soapbox, and you start talking telling
people Alex yam a signed that he get you can't
do that?

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Wrong is wrong? Cheaters are cheaters?

Speaker 5 (09:41):
No, no, no, da Now, all of a sudden, Kawahi
can't offer Hey, y'all real quick, y'all want to cheat?

Speaker 4 (09:45):
They're like, yeah, let's cheat. He like, cool, let's cheat
and it gets a check, cast a check. Nohow on him.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
No, it's on Steve Boma.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I bet you if you talked to most people, Alex,
you could ask for something to be illegal or whatever.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Right, I'm the.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
One auditioning out the money. I'm the one who is
breaking No. No, But I'm saying I asked you for
you to do something that that is against the rules,
and you were complicit. You the one who decided that
you were gonna do that. Instead of pushing back the
way Toronto did, Toronto said no, Alex, no, I don't

(10:19):
care what you want. You just helped us win a championship.
We love for you to stay in Toronto. They said,
we're not doing that, and that is my point. The
Clippers were like, we could get Kawhi Leonard, what we
gotta do, fudge, fudge the numbers, Cheatkelvin, We'll do what
do whatever we gotta do, We'll get money. That No,
That's all I'm saying is I'm not saying Kawhi shouldn't

(10:41):
be asking for illegal being paid through illegal ways.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
But he can't do it himself.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
He needs the ownership group and Steve Balmer to sign
off on getting him money.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
They come on out here and dance with me, Rob,
you were dancing the other day.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
We got it up on our Instagram page. Get out
here in tango with me, And that's what he did.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
He said, hey, excuse me, ma'am, you're looking all pretty
over there.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Can I have this dance?

Speaker 5 (11:06):
In this case the Clippers, and they said, yeah, you
can have his dance and they dance together.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Alex, why is that? Why is he acting like he
doesn't get that.

Speaker 8 (11:15):
I think he's trying to play a different side to it. Rob, Right,
So you're trying to say it's not his fault for
taking money that he deserved.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Correct, No, it's yeah not. I'm not mad. I'm saying that.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
If I look at two parties, the guilty party to
me is the Clippers and Steve Balmer for going to.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Be multiple though it's not master part.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
It's because you can't get the money byself. If if
the Clippers say we're not doing that, Kawhi doesn't get
that money, Alex.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
If I come to you get a case full of
and I say, hey, I got a bunch of one
hundred dollars bills in here baby. You're like, Okay, whoa,
But I say, hey, here's the thing. Look real, philreal,
but his counterfeit. You're like, all right, but I say here,
here you go his counterfeit.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
No.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
The difference is what you're saying is you are offering
him something he didn't come to you with the plan.
Alex didn't come to you and ask you for counterfeit bills. Okay, right, Alex.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
So the clippers of this, no, I'm coming to the
I'm coming to them saying, hey, I want to get me.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
The only thing where you can get me is a
normal salary.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
And once you and once you know, and once you
know their counterfeit, it's right.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I'm not touching it. Okay, And that's where the clippers are.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
But if Alex, no, once the clippers know what he's
asking is against the rules, they're the ones who say,
we don't operate. That's not how we run our business.
We're above born Fox al Radio ain't paying you under
the table.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Alex AKA clippers. You know it's counterfeit. You accept the money.
We do business together. Are we not both going down?

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah? That's true?

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Then thank you?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
All right, we let well, let's have the listener, let's
take the call. Ye decide on where what side they're on?

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Eight seven morale soapbox wrong?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Is wrong?

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Cheaters? Now look at you. I mean he you know
they ain't have to pay him.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
He ask him, Wait a minute, I think Bob Kendricks
is on the other line. I think you're gonna take
my waterway.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah. Now, I see how you got that deck on
Hall of Game.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I got it now though, eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three
sixty nine. We want to hear from you. Who's the blame?
Who gets most of the blame?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
To me?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Is it the Clippers who went along with the with
the scam or was it Kawhi who asked about this,
you know, doing it illegally and under the table. Who
is the one that should get the most blame in
this situation? It is the odd couple where we deliver insight,
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Speaker 4 (15:10):
Be down with the King here.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
This is the vacation edition of The Odd Couple. Right here.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Oh you're white because you're skating up out of here.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
I'm skating here.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, I bet.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
I'll be back Monday, and then I'll be right behind
you out there in Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Man, it should be a good time.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I don't know, I'm excited about Atlanta. I don't know
what like really like, I.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Can't wonder why also about well I will stall them out, Alex.
We know the obvious, but you do get giddy. I mean,
do you lose forty fifty pounds because of an abja largely?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Not only largely?

Speaker 5 (15:42):
So it's a real big deal. And I feel the
same way. It's so funny. By the end of the week,
Robert Martin is like, all right, yeah, I'm you know,
because obviously, you know, I got a wife, I got
kids to get home.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
So I'm like, all right, right it signing, you know,
I'm right.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
And then afterwards I'm like, maybe I'll take a break
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Speaker 4 (15:58):
By about November, I'm like, when is it abj coming?

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Yeah, Houston gonna be lit to So looking forward to Hey,
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Be good to talk to him. Haven't done it in
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Speaker 4 (16:30):
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Speaker 5 (16:32):
All right, let's get to a Rob eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox apparently Kawhi. According to Pablo Torre's podcast,
Uh there is another business, Daktronics that could be evolved
in some illegal funneling of money to Kawhi. And I
say the fun guy, I say fun guy. I gotta
be a part of this, uh this punishment. Rob says,
it's all Steve Balmer and the Clippers.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
What say you?

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Who?

Speaker 3 (16:54):
We got call in Mobile, Alabama. You're on the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Call was loo guys.

Speaker 9 (17:00):
I hope y'all have a great lead into the weekend
and everything. I'm glad y'all talking about this.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
Man, Yes, sir, I hate to say this.

Speaker 9 (17:11):
It sounds like I'm, you know, saying you're both right,
but you're kind of both right. But I want to
say it like this, Rob, as far as you're concerned,
it is the team that's going to accept most responsibility
because I think the way the collective bargaining agreement works,
the players represent it has to try to get the
most money for the player. The player is by signing

(17:33):
with that agent, he gives him all the responsibility. So
it's between the agent and the team. Now, as far
as Kelvin, where they're both involved, if Kawhi Leonard made
money that he did not report to the IRIS the
tax he paid. In other words, he's saying I signed
one hundred million dollar contracts and then off the books

(17:54):
he got. Yeah, he's in trouble, that's right.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
No, no, no, he would be that. That's definitely different.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
But what I also find Carl and Rob interesting in
this too. We didn't I didn't mention this earlier is
we know he been doing business with Uncle Dennis for
his whole career. He Didne kicked Uncle Dennis off the
team and I feel like this is one of the
unk you unk forever.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
I love you, You're part of the family.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well, it also can be my agent handles all my things.
I didn't even know what was going on.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Well, I mean that's how you play it, for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
But I mean I'm just saying, that's the conversation.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
You know this, When you have agency sign on the things,
you still assume responsibility.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
No, I'm saying, but that's that's what you would try.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
I think Uncle Dennis gonna be the fall guy, but
like a wink wink fall guy, like, don't worry about it,
You'll be all right.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Alex in Detroit, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Alex?

Speaker 7 (18:43):
What's going on?

Speaker 6 (18:45):
You know?

Speaker 7 (18:46):
I'm good man.

Speaker 10 (18:47):
Look, look, let me say this before I make my point. Calvin,
I feel like you represent Michigan. I know you're not
exactly from Detroit, but I feel like you represent as well.
I'll be listening to your.

Speaker 7 (18:57):
Man you all that.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Come on, man, I appreciate.

Speaker 7 (19:00):
I'll be funny. Sometimes he'd be on something different, but funny.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I spent twenty years in Detroit. What are you saying?
My barbershops on seven Mile roads I.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Know, I know it's on over my road. I don't
get my hair cut there, i'n brong.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Okay, but all good.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
Oh, here here's the thing. Here's the thing.

Speaker 10 (19:19):
It's my Let's say, for example, I think both of
them whole responsibility, both parties. Let's say for example, I'm
married and I go to a woman I like, and
I'm like, look, you know, can we can we step
out together? And she say yeah, my wife finds out
I can't be like, hey, that was her fault.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I just asked, no, no, no, no, no no no no,
you're you're you're you're no.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
You're not both wrong. You're wrong.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
You're wrong because you having a commitment to your wife.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
The woman the other woman.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Has no she has no commitment, She has no commitment
to anything.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Your commitment is with your wife.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Heymus coming to you. The smoking is coming to you
because you made a commitment.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
I hear you. If if I didn't tell her that I.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Was, it don't matter.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. No, it doesn't, No,
it doesn't.

Speaker 7 (20:08):
It's just your opinion. It does matter.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
How does it matter?

Speaker 7 (20:11):
Let me tell you. Let me tell you.

Speaker 10 (20:13):
If I let her know that I'm still connected to
somebody else.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
I'm married the situation, Yes, and she's still messed with me.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
No, we're both wrong. No, you're wrong. Well I think
I think what he said. Look, you're right morally, like
the lady's wrong. But between like the with the wife,
and if it comes down to divorce, Corodora, it's gonna
be the man's right.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
The woman.

Speaker 11 (20:38):
The woman, she said she could be like wrong morally
but not like No he went to the church and
stood up and and and married somebody and then to
act like oh well, but she went along with it.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
No, you're the one married.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
All right.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Let's go to Jermaine in California. You're in the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jermaine.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
We're going on God is good all the time, all
the time.

Speaker 12 (21:02):
Hey man, all right, So look I'm gonna get a
bus analogy, all right? Kawhi wrong, lem gonna tell you
what's going on?

Speaker 13 (21:07):
All right?

Speaker 12 (21:08):
Look when your granny telling you don't test that Cissie
jar and you.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
Still at guess what it is?

Speaker 7 (21:13):
Wrong?

Speaker 4 (21:13):
You're joy?

Speaker 6 (21:13):
You feel me so ka while wrong because they offered.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Him money and he took you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (21:18):
So he's wrong.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I'm just saying that the Clippers. The Clippers are wrong.
They went along with.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
This, y'all. They're both all right.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Let's squeeze in one more. Let's go to uh Dion
in Texas. You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's upon?

Speaker 4 (21:36):
How about you?

Speaker 6 (21:37):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (21:37):
Good guys, enjoyed the show all week?

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Thank you say.

Speaker 12 (21:42):
In my opinion, I do look at Kawhi Leonard a
whole lot differently than I did a year or two ago.
I think that both are guilty, and Kawhi is going
to uh it was if it happened just one time,
we can say it's a one off. But we got
multiple count of this happening and different times.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Alleged allegedly, So I'm gonna have.

Speaker 12 (22:04):
To go ahead and say it's a fifty to fifty Kawhi.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
I think they.

Speaker 12 (22:07):
Should banish him from the league for a year.

Speaker 9 (22:09):
I really do.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
And Steve Bomer, what happens to him? Tell me?

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Tell me what they're gonna do to Steve Baumer, the
richest owner in the NBA.

Speaker 7 (22:16):
They got to figure it out.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
No, I'm asking.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
You, no, I want you to be the commissioner. You
tell me What are they gonna do? I want you
to be at Dion. What are you gonna do? Steve
Baumer went along with this. What are you gonna do
to Steve Balmer?

Speaker 12 (22:29):
It's gonna be so light.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
I'm gonna say you nothing.

Speaker 12 (22:31):
I'm gonna say you can't come to your own arena
for a year and for like five years.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
And that's a good one.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Good luck, because that would that would affect that. He
would hate that. We know how Rob, You've been there,
you know how it is. He loves the game. He
loves to be a part of it. No check organization
away from him.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
You want to do that may force him to sell
like they forced Donald Sterle. You're gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
They ain't gonna get here because he ain't gonna take time.
Why do you like magic? You don't have to bring
that black guy. That's why they gonna do it.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Rob Sean King on the other side, we're chopping up
with him right now.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
He is Steve de SegReg getting you updated. It's the
odd couple.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
Rod Parker Kelvin Washington on a Fucky flashback Friday.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
We are now for the first.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Time in a long time, joined by Oh man, Sean King.
We had died with the King for b NFL Quarterback,
Fox Sports Radio, NFL analysts and real Sean King on
X and Sean. I see you out here, man, you
said Bump that I'm about to get back in shape
summer ready out here in these streets. I see you
out here working out.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
Bro.

Speaker 13 (23:35):
He live from Las Vegas, Nevada. I saw what Philip
Rivers did last year.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Oh no, please breaking.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Newp oh God on the odd couple.

Speaker 13 (23:47):
If Baker Mayfield decides to hold out, I'll be a
viable option for Tampa.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Go back to the old squad and get busy.

Speaker 13 (23:55):
Huh, how y'all doing, man, I miss Shaw.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I know that, man.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
Good to have you been, man, We were just talking
about how we had chopped it up with you in
quite some time.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
Man.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
But stay there for a minute. What do you I mean,
that's your old team. I'm sure you got some people.
What do you do is give him, give him as
bread or let him go and start young.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
What they're doing.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
Here's the problem.

Speaker 13 (24:14):
Everything you do when you're leading up to a new
contract matters.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
People seem to forget that.

Speaker 13 (24:20):
If I'm not mistaken, the Bucks lost our last seven
games and missed the playoffs with losses the Saints, the Falcons,
the Dolphins. A lot of that was because Baker was
turning the football over. So there's a part of me
that feels for Baker, like overall, he's done enough to
probably get a big deal, But the recency says, hold on,

(24:43):
you know, like people forget that. Remember we think, if
I'm not mistaken, we lost our last seven games and that's.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Why, My god, I'm just saying everybody was hurt.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
Well, listen, guys, I mean it's a no fault league, right,
I get it. I get it.

Speaker 13 (25:06):
The only thing I'm saying, And listen, I'm a player advocate.
I want all those guys to get paid. But when
you lose your last seven games and you're turning the
football over, you kind of give away a lot of leverack,
especially when you look at what the market is for
extensions for top level quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
I just think there's so few good quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
And you know, in this league, half of the league
would give up their quarterback in a minute if they
thought they could get a quarterback to improve their quarterback play.
There's so many bad quarterbacks. Sean I just if you
don't want Baker, that's fine. But if you really think
that he's your guy, and you look at what happened
last year and say a lot of that. I thought
they did him dirty in Cleveland when they won that

(25:50):
playoff game. The next year he played injured. You remember that, Sean,
and they held it against him. He went out there
and played, he was not healthy. They didn't do well,
and then they Jeni Hi him out of Cleveland and
they've been looking for a quarterback ever since.

Speaker 13 (26:06):
Let me play devil's advocate here and put a conspiracy
theory out there in the sports universe.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
Okay, what if the organization is.

Speaker 13 (26:14):
Saying, Todd Bowles and Baker Mayfield this has put up
a shut up, and if we don't like what we see,
we're going to go after Mike Tomlin and let Mike
Tomlin pick his own quarterback.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
All right, Speaking of quarterbacks, I want to go to
Cleveland if they if they want to get if they
want to get Arch Manning, does that mean that shardor
Sandals will play every game and be the startup?

Speaker 13 (26:43):
From everything everything I've heard, and I see you throwing shave,
But that's okay.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
From everything I've.

Speaker 13 (26:48):
Heard, Shador is winning the battle so far. I think
the final evaluation will be live football. But I do
want to pick a little bit at a point that
you made.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
Rich Manning.

Speaker 13 (27:02):
I love him. I think he's gonna have a tremendous year.
But Dante Moore, Chris Carr, like, there are a lot
of quarterbacks, Sam Levitt lsu.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
But the owner loves him though. You know that there's
a relation.

Speaker 13 (27:14):
And Arch Manning has name recognition and if it's closed,
he'll probably get the nod. But to me, there's a
group of about five or six guys who are playing to
be the number one pick. Remember going into last year,
people were talking about nuts Meyer and Carson Beck and
Drew Aller and Fernando Mendoza played himself into the number
one pick in the draft. So I'm just saying, I

(27:36):
don't think there's a consensus.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
Guy.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
As we get ready to.

Speaker 13 (27:40):
Start the college football season, I think the number one
pick is gonna be determined by actual on field performance
this upcoming season.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I agree with that to a certain extent, but not
for the Browns. Haslam has this love has a love
affair with the Mannings. I'm telling you that they will
if they have a chance to draft him. I don't care.
I believe deal draft him. That's just because of the history.

Speaker 13 (28:02):
I don't want to put words in the man in
family's mouth, but we've seen them before not want one
of their kinfolks to.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
Go to a specific destination.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
So I'm not sure that they got a relationship with him.

Speaker 13 (28:15):
Relationship still, I don't want them to go to Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I mean here, everybody everybody said, don't go to Joe Burrow,
not to go to Cincinnati. I could go give you
the tapes and all the conversation that he shouldn't go there.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
He took that team to the super Bowl. That's what
everybody told him.

Speaker 13 (28:29):
Don't go to Carson Palmer is more recent than Bernie Colesar.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
No, I get it.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
But I'm just saying that was the conversation, don't go
to Cincinnati.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
That was it.

Speaker 13 (28:38):
And we'll see the thing in sports, everything evolves, everything changes.
Nobody was talking about Sam Donald or the Seattle Seahawks
at this time last year, and listen, they are the
reigning defending NFL Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 6 (28:50):
So we'll see Fluke.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Stay there for a minute.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Sean King all with the eye couple on a funky
flashback Friday. Everybody's talking about the Rams airing down on
my back, Matthew Stafford raigning MVP, blah blah blah blah blah.
Everybody's talking about bad teams or what are they gonna do.
The Randy Champ, as you mentioned, is kind of sitting
there and no one's really talking about them. What do
you maybe like or what are some things that you
thought they maybe should have done better in the offseason?

(29:14):
But where are they moving into this season? Can they repeat?

Speaker 6 (29:18):
Not at all? Not at all.

Speaker 13 (29:21):
I mean they got new ownership, they don't have Kenneth Walker,
Charbonnay is heard.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
I know they drafted the daring kid from Notre Dame.
But and I'm not.

Speaker 13 (29:31):
Still convinced that Sam Donald is what people all of
a sudden have annoyed him math. I think he's a
good quarterback.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
It was bad in the Super Bowl. He was bad.

Speaker 13 (29:42):
I'm not buying Sam Donald's stock. And I think the
Rams are too rich y'all to win a Super Bowl.
If you look at most recent Super Bowl teams, at
least half of their core players are generally playing for
big contracts. Everybody on the Rams already got paid.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
It is that lazy?

Speaker 13 (29:59):
Yes, yeah, everybody already got paid except poop. I just
think on paper they look good. I got to see
them do it as well.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
I'm not a full believer in the Rams either.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Who believe?

Speaker 6 (30:09):
Then well, that's the beauty of the NFL.

Speaker 13 (30:12):
Then it's the only professional sports league where every year
every team has a legitimate No, they don't.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
The Jets have no shot. The Giants have no shot.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
The Jets haven't had a shot since nineteen sixty nine three.

Speaker 13 (30:26):
His what's crazy? Geno Smith, breif Hall, Gear Wilson, Like,
they've got some good young players in here telling you
the Jets are going to be in the Super Bowl.
But I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if they're pushing
five hundred.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
What is that You're not saying anything.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I'm surprised if they're pushing five hundred with a terrible
coach and Aaron Glenn.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I don't like anything about the Jets. They stay.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
You don't.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
You don't like hope, No, I don't hope.

Speaker 13 (30:54):
Hope exists in the National Football League, and it's not
a smals.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Hope because the same teams win, the same team.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
In an entire fan base.

Speaker 13 (31:04):
I think that Carson Beck is the next coming of
Peyton Brady Tom Manning after what they saw last night.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
Dream.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Okay, yeah, I remember the Lions are going to win
the Super Bowl too, showing is this Lion's gonna win
the Super Bowl?

Speaker 6 (31:20):
To your point, let me ask you a questions. Since
the year two thousand, how.

Speaker 13 (31:25):
Many NFL organizations have more than one Super Bowl win?

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Hey, before you get there in sport, No, it's not
before you get there. The last twenty years, there have
been more different Major League Baseball teams without a salary
cap to get to the World Series than in the
NFL or NBA.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Go look it up.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Who has won?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
No, I'm telling you, I'm.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Talking about you're talking about giving people hope. I'm still
telling you. In the last twenty years, am I right, Kevin,
We've looked it up.

Speaker 13 (31:56):
You have more, off the top of my head, in
the last two only six years. In the NFL, I
think it's the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Chiefs, and we know it's the Patriots.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
That have won multiple Super Bowls.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
No, you just forgot the Seahawks.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
Yeah, they do have to.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Four.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Hold on, I might I might be cooking.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Let me think of some more here, hold on, hold
on now, you said twenty six year, let me do okay,
twenty six would be the.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Two Giants, the Giants.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Giants won two.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
Okay, that's five.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Come on, I'm on fire.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
That's off the don't hold on, yeah, hold on, I
got another one for a rock.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Well, you already said, okay, you already said, but he
said the Bucks. He said the Bucks. I was about
to get you.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
In another one. Of course, I know the home team.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Come on, hold on, hold away. The Broncos then sign
saying bye bye.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Two today when the Broncos went twice only one one.

Speaker 13 (32:48):
Now, okay, it's a hard championship to win.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I'm just saying, we looked we get on.

Speaker 13 (32:55):
The National Football League because everybody operates under the same budget.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
And the Steelers and the Steelers.

Speaker 13 (33:02):
Right now, they lost the Green Bay and beat Arizona
if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
And they beat the Seahawks. They beat the Seahawks in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
There's another one, Sean, I'm on fire.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
This off the dome, Sean, this off the dome.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
Listen.

Speaker 13 (33:17):
My point is, it's a hard championship to win.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Sean is great to have you back, even if your
numbers of football cloudy and foggy.

Speaker 13 (33:28):
Listen, you know, I stop in the Atlanta Braids. Atlanta
Braids will be the twenty twenty six Major League Baseball
World Series Champion.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Well, it's gonna be like the ninety six. They're gonna
be good, but ain't winning nothing.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
Then we go, all right, fellas hopefully on Friday.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
No doubt, Sean. Appreciate you, brother, Thank you. Sean Kick
always great to chop it up with him. We haven't
done it in quite some time, so appreciate him as always.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
All Right, Rob uh Man, that's sad news.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Obviously someone passing the NBA a few a little bit ago,
but now they kind of have. What happened to him,
we'll tell you who. And really just the fall of
an organization that has so much hope. Speaking of hope,
as Seawan did, we'll tell you what we're talking about next.
It's the couple on a fucky Flashback Friday. Stick with
you boys. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5 (34:29):
Hey, you're really in a funky flashback move dj Ali
Alex on this here funcky flashback Friday.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Big shout up to Sean King. Always good to chop
it up with him.

Speaker 10 (34:40):
Man.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
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real football season, I should say season starting here soon
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Next hour, we got John Cirillo get to join us,
author in pr Legend with the Knicks, got a new
book coming out, looking forward to that. We'll have last
call as well, and Rob is not a believer in
a particular MLB team, so we'll tell you about that

(35:25):
as well.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
And of course they would be up nine to one
the nights.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Yeah, just perfect, no, no, no, that's all right, just
all right. You know you stand firman what you're saying there.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
No, I don't Waffle.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Yeah, I know that, man, But sad dudes in the NBA.
We know Brandon Clark, who was a really good player
for the Memphis Grizzlies, passed on May eleventh out here
actually in the valley here in southern California, at the
age of twenty nine. And it was now they're saying
they it was an accidental effect death that had heroin

(35:59):
and cocaine mixture of just you know, recreational drugs. So
he passed away sadly again at the age of twenty
nine back in May. But they just found out they've
now released the information of what it was there Rob.
But it just got me to thinking Rob first and foremost.
You know, obviously prayers and condolcas to his family. That's
just hard to deal with. Twenty nine years old, so

(36:20):
much life ahead of him, good player, really good role
player in the NBA, probably had another five six year
career ahead of him, and you know, gone so early.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
But it just made me think.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Of, man, how for multiple different reasons, Right, you have
a tragic death like his, you have the trading of
Desmond Banks to Orlando, you have all the stuff that
happen with joh Wick turned to John Morant, you know,
and Triple J now up there in Utah, like Dylan
Brooks now just getting a big contract with the Suns.

(36:49):
About three years ago, Rob, that Memphis Grizzly team, we
were all like, man, they are you know that near
like the Spurs is if you will, now of just like, man,
here they come and watch out for them. And you know,
they were like the thunder of a couple of years
ago when you're like, hey, they're on their way. Man.
They had the number two seed and the West and
you know you're just looking at them like this team

(37:11):
with jab Morett, Triple J, Dylan Brooks, you know, Desmond Bays,
so on and so forth.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
You're like, man, this is the team of the future
in the West.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
And it's just amazing how fast things can change. And
as much as I don't want to talk about it
because it pays me well, but you always bring up
the window being closed with the Lions. There's been other
teams in the NBA where it's closed. Like, you got
to make stuff happen when that window's there, because in
the blink of an eye, organizations can change, Rob.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
No no doubt about it. We talk about season A
moment and looking at those circumstances and people.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Think, oh yeah, well, and we bring up the Lions
because of where they were.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
They were blowing out the forty nine ers in the
NFC Championship game on the road, and you.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Go sell your heat at halftime.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, you go, oh yeah, well, oh if we don't
get it this year, we'll get it next year. Really like,
it doesn't work like that. And then you can look up,
like the Lions the last time they were in the
NFC Championship game against the I believe it was the
forty nine ers as well, they didn't get it done.
And then that's when that long drought started again, was
right after that.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
So I think it was.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Okay, yeah, okay, but you know, you get my point.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
I do man rest in peace to him, all right,
We got to talk some more football on the other side.
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