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July 14, 2026 38 mins

Former NFL offensive lineman Ephraim Salaam is in for Rob, and he and Kelvin tell us why they’re expecting a big bounce-back season from Lamar Jackson, and explain why CJ Stroud is going to have a hard time getting a new deal with the Houston Texans. Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Antonio Daniels swings by to discuss the biggest NBA Summer League storylines, why he’s secretly hoping that LeBron James signs with the Golden State Warriors, why teams are still falling over themselves to sign LeBron even at his advanced age, and much more!  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
All right, Ephra My gott admit this. It's like why
you're saying it's right on the line. Is right on
the line. If you're watching the All Star Game, it's
The Odd Couple Hour number two. It's dope and strange
and a little too historical right now.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
What they're doing. So they're doing the start, I don't know,
they're announcing all the players and the starters.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, they're coming out and they're you know, little drummer boys,
and they're signing with looks like a declaration of independence
and a come out of a liberty bell. Obviously they're
in Philadelphia, so it's perfect for the two fifth America's
two fifty. So it's dope, but it's they're going heavy
on that particular era of.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
American history, holding the trade with some drinks. Yeah, it's
a little heavy on that era of American history.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
It wasn't the best for everybody. It's just all I'm saying.
But I'll tell you what baseball going. They're going all in. Yes,
it's a spectacle. They're not playing around, but that's what
you want.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I think on a large part, baseball misses in terms
of marketing and how to do things. Agree, it's good
to see them go all in on this and America's
two hundred and fiftieth birthday in Philly to Philly. You
can lean into it a little bit more than previous years.

(01:48):
But look, it's an All Star game. It's supposed to
be entertaining. You're supposed to entertain the masters, not just
to people in the stadium, but also the people at
home like us watching, you know, and and and it's
it's holding up. It looks exciting, it looks fun. It
looks like yesterday year. Further than little proclamation is shout

(02:14):
out to who is that? Dave Robinson? He can't know
they running out there. It's hard to run with all them.
He stopped. He's no, no, no, Dave. You signed on the back,
No no, no, signed on the other side.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Da here gonna make another two hours.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
You main gonna make it two hours. We thought rob
ain't gonna make it four years. You ain't gonna make
it two more hours. You Chris get ready us dream
come true. Me and here man Michigan man getting ready
to do this because yeah, I'm just saying it looks
it's dope, but it's a little it's it looks great,
it's great. It is our number two. He's not gonna

(02:54):
make it. It's what is He started it. I'm just
you ain't have to finish it. I'm a co host.
I'm going, I'm he's leading and I'm following. Were both
falling off the clip. Click out the YouTube. We are
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Speaker 1 (03:06):
Man shouts all to youtubeans and all the odd mob
weighing in on the comments. We appreciated a couple just
search us there. Look at Elijah putting in a click, subscribe, like,
share comment, all that good stuff. We appreciate it. All right, Antonio,
Daniel's coming up in about twenty five minutes or so.
Looking forward to seeing what AHAs talk about. Always great
chatting to open him. We got trash talking Tuesday. Your
chance to hop in on anything anybody can get trashed,

(03:29):
anybody can get to smoke.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
You can do that as well. All right. We talked
about this a little bit yesterday.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
We more focused Rob g on the top ten on
ESPN's quarterback list. That list, Lamar Jackson was number five.
On the NFL's top one hundred player list. He was
number sixty nine.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, it's a tough scene for Lamar Jackson. All right, Now,
this is not the first time he's done this, bro.
You know, twenty twenty three is only down to seventy two.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Both years the year before that he was ranked second.
So one year he fell seventy one slots, one year
he falls sixty seven slots and Lamar Jackson, which was
shocking me. We talking about it off the year. I've
always been to the belief that the people who are
negative about Lamar Jackson, both currently and long term, are

(04:19):
media members, are newspaper writers, are talking heads. And the
people who are his biggest supporters are current players former
players like man, you don't appreciate how electric this guy is. Well,
apparently not, because the NFL one hundred, a group of
his peers twice now, has voted him right around the
seventieth best player in football and.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
They're tripping and I get it from you know this,
I'd imagine you I don't know, I don't remember exactly
when it started, but i'd imagine you probably had a
chance to vote on his back when you were playing.
They always do the one hundred players. And one of
the things that are heavy the emphasis on is yeah,
just for the record, just didn't exist by the time
I finished.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Sounded like you w well else the seven years and
fourth cost like back then, Dan, when did you play again?
Last year was twenty ten? Let me put some respect
on your name. I feeling like you.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
I'm with Rob right now, I'm fifty all right. Well,
with that being said, your juniors, yes, they get a
chance to vote, and you look at it like this
one of the crimes here. They really they really tried
to emphasize he from his it's current right, it's not
lifetime legacy. It's coming out of last season. Here we go,

(05:31):
who are your players? And so obviously we know that
that was not his best season last year.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
No, he being Lamar. He played thirteen games, thirteen games injured,
and he played he was It was weird because even
when he played he wasn't quite as bad as you
may think. And I'll give you some of these numbers
that are in favor of him. So when you look
at what he was still able to do, even despite
being that he finished last year fourth and passer rating

(05:59):
higher than seven Pro Bowl or Pro Bowl alternates, and
the last time he felt as low it was as
robb J. You just mentioned that.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
But when you look at his numbers, he was still
solid and I think that's to me, the indicator of
what I'm about to go to. You can put him
seventy two they did a couple of years back. You
can put him sixty nine this year. The fact of
matter is Lamar Jackson. I fully expect to have a
bounce back year. You're hearing him about him showing up
to OTA's, which he normally doesn't do. He's showing up.
They got a new coach who's been there before.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
That that's why he's showing up. Has to be there.
Go ahead, get there, but get there, build that rapport,
be the leader of the team.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Showing up. You got mentioned there as a coach. I
think a huge part of that is gonna be great.
That the defensive side can be better. They try to
get better towards the end of the last year.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's too late. They lost some games that he bawled
out in and like, how do we lose this? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (06:42):
I had a great game offense, put up a bunch
of points me to the first game exactly exactly. So
I think he's gonna have an absolute monster year. I
think he's gonna put up crazy points. I think he's
gonna be as efficient as he has always been. And
what's interesting about him is some they have. Of course,
in a mononymous hsive, coach Ford him said what's so
impressive is he's gotten better as a passer.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
He's more of a complete passer. It's impressive.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I really didn't respect the passing game as much before
in his career, but the last time he played him,
he was much better.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
He can dice you up.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
And I say that to say he had the highest
passer rating one forty seven point six yards forer attempt
and completion percentage just a season ago. We talked about
this year in year out that it's not just the
legs he's dicing people up.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I mean, how.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Regular is it to see two hundred yards three touchdowns
through the air, another one hundred and ten rushing in
a one touchdown on the ground. Like he's been spectacular.
And I've said it for years since I've been on
the show. Now was two years then I thought he
was the best player in football because of it. Now
last year again, Josh Allen, to his credit, has taken
that spot. We'll see what happens this coming year, but
I've expected full bounce back. I expect the team success

(07:50):
then to get right back one of the best three
teams or so in the AFC have a real chance
to contend to make a deep playoff run, and I
expect him to be right back there, MVP candidate and
doing what Lamar does and making.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Us go oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Wil Roy Jones Junior said, y'all must have forgot. I
don't buy any of this. I think teams are still
scared of him. I think they know who he is
and they just put him down because of last year
at sixty nine. He ain't the sixty ninth best player.
I don't even think he's the fifth best quarterback. And
if they're going based off last year final, I'll give
you that, okay, But Lamar Jackson is well the kid
be based off last year because Patrick mahomes on the list,

(08:25):
well number two.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, so what are we doing? I'll say this, but
that don't make sense. You know, the last five years
of what he's been the five the last full season
Lamar played, which was the twenty twenty fourth season, not
last year. He had over four thousand yards. He had
forty one touchdowns and four interceptions. That's ridiculous, ridiculous, along

(08:53):
with nine hundred and fifteen yards rushing, four extra touchdowns
us a total of forty four touchdowns and four giveaways.
And he didn't win MVP.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Josh Allen won that right so and a lot of
people thought it was reversed. He should have won that
year and maybe Josh the year before. For whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
If a player in any year puts up those types
of numbers that has MVP all over it, he didn't
get it. He got hurt last year. I think the
hardball Lamar Jackson connection coach player, I think it ran

(09:41):
its course. I agree, and that's a lot of things
start coming out. It happens they had been together the
entirety there. I think John it was time for John
to move on, which he has now he's in New
York now whole new situation. Lamar is engaged at OTA's
working learning the new offense. Lamar Jackson, if you don't

(10:05):
believe he's still one of the most dynamic players in
all of football, then you're not really watching football. And
I talked about Patrick Mahomes yesterday on the show, and
I was hypercritical of them because for the last three
years he steadily declined. Right. And when you look at
Patrick Mahomes at his numbers, and although the team was good,

(10:26):
he wasn't good. Right. If Lamar is not good, the
team's not going to be good. And I think that's
the difference there. Right, Like the year before last, Patrick
Mahomes had one of probably his worst seasons and they
were fifteen and three fifteen, Right, If Lamar has one
of his worst seasons, we're not even talking about Baltimore

(10:50):
in the playoffs heat.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
It is the same thing with Josh Allen there where
they everything relies on them, and that goes for.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know, coaching, it goes for the entirety of the team,
all of those things. Lamar Jackson is a spark plug
and if you plug him into any car, he's gonna
make the engine run and so him coming off injury
a new lease in life, up for an extension. He
wants some more bread. I'm looking for him to have
a phenomenal, sensational year like we've grown accustomed to him

(11:22):
doing it in the regular season. Now the playoffs, that's
a whole nother conversation.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Is he and Justin Herbert got a little that can't
get right, can't get right.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
And what happens as a player is that thing, that
proverbial rock on your shoulder becomes a psychological thing more
so than anything. Now it's the night before the playoff game.
You're saying, I gotta play good in this game. So
if your mentality is I have to play good in

(11:54):
this game, then it takes away from the natural progression
of you just going out there and balling out. It
happens all the time. I've suffered from that. I remember
the first time after going back to Atlanta after I
left there in free agency. All night I was like, man,
I'm a quartier and this this had been years I

(12:14):
had I hadn't played Atlanta again at home for five
six years after I had left there, and I went
out there and I had probably one of the worst
games i'd ever had. I was so focused on the
wrong thing. It happens all the time. Athletes put a
lot of pressure on themselves outside of the pressure you're
already under to go out there and perform. And at

(12:37):
the quarterback position, hearing all the naysayers and understanding you've
yet to bring your MVP talent to the postseason and
this is the year. Remember that in twenty twenty four,
that was the year, right Lamar Jackson was clearly probably
the MVP of the league. Everybody was looking to see
what he did in the playoffs, and it didn't work

(12:59):
out for him. Again, And there is and and Josh
Allen is in the same boat. Josh Allen's in the
same boat. People are expecting these two guys to be
competing for super Bowls and it just hasn't worked for them.
A lot of that is, you know, uh, Patrick Mahomes,

(13:19):
you might have something to do with it. But this year
I think it's really wide open. Patrick coming back off injury,
Josh Allen coming back off of you know, being the
m v P, and then you have Lamar Jackson coming
Joe Borrow and Joe Burrow. They've gotten well. I don't
I'll have zero confidence and and and no, it's not
even him, it's the organization. Have zero confidence in the Bengals,

(13:40):
uh to even the fact that they kept the coach.
And I was just like, all right, well here we go.
I'm just simply based off of his talent and talent.
But Joe has been to the super Bowl, so I
want to take him out of that because even though
he went early, he's gone to the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
He's ator Patrick put on back on that. Drake May
is probably determined to say that I'm not a flute.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Many people mad. Now.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I don't think he the towns of Fluke the team success.
I think people are y'all had a lucky schedule. But
there's at AFC A. This is a year where a
handful of teams.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Gonna be like you took the bone. Nicks is coming back.
He's got to be saying about they're playing in the
super Bowl. Hands down, we know what that is. And
if CJ Stroud, Lord, I don't know what they eat
him into a haircut, I don't know what happened the beat.
He beat himself into a haircut. Man, you can't play
worse that. The good news for Houston. Is you he

(14:35):
can't play any worse. He can't. I can't that man
hold my beer. Seven picks. That was man in two games.
Seven may beat him to a haircut. You can't play
any worse. It's all up.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
That defense was so good. That's why I bring them up,
is that he's got a shot. Good if you are
just mid man. You don't if you are just mid
You guys were in the Super Bowl and probably winning it,
or at least competing, got a shot.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
But he was out here like, now, what's the average
quarterback that right now? That if they were on that team,
they would have had a good shot.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I'll throw that to you next, give it to you.
Who that could have we talked about, could have been them?
They could have won a super Bowl. It is the
okable on a trash talking Tuesday. That's coming up in
about thirty minutes. AD coming about fifteen minutes as well.
Can't wait to chop it up with him. Stick with
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(16:03):
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Speaker 2 (16:15):
Y'all got it?

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Rob G told me to come to the party. Rob G,
I mean Ephraim I get to the party. Rob G said,
all right, cool enjoy.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
And that man? How did the uber on me? Facts
and no facts? A lot of contacts. No.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
I was a room, a facility that held like one
hundred and fifty people and there were four hundred people
in there and it was ninety five percent dudes, was
all hugged up on each other, Like what do you
think about what's going on?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
So food was great and you ain't even eat it. Nah.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Shout out to Colin Cowherd. He had the bomb food,
that is, I mean, don't that's when you know you owed. Obviously,
I'm not going for the ladies. I'm not a big drinker,
so I'm just there to meing of rebelbows. And then
next thing I know, I was, I was in a
corner eating so many duck tacos.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
By yourself, away from the party. I ain't got embarrassing
ask you this.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
The girl knew me by cod hey, because they weren't
in like, don't think corn tortillas. They were in you know,
like an Asian infusion noodle, but like in the shape
of a tortois.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Almost like an open one time. Yeah, yeah, man, No,
Colin heard.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
No.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I don't know about nothing else but the food at
that party. Shehulter. I don't know nothing about nothing else.
Elijah put the camera on me. Colin, shout out to you, brother,
you put a party together. The food was bomb. I'm
telling you, I don't know nothing nothing else but the
food was bomb. They brought up these wings and they
had an Asian seasoning on them. The lady knew me.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
By name at that point because I was acting like
I was hanging shots to convene on risks.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
They thought I was there for them to talk to them. Y'all.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Was just about the wings Man. That lady said, let
me guess you want more and said you're not all right.
I was Rob Parker for a minute at you know
how he beat robbed at the party? Rob Parker, Yeah, Ethan,
you gotta see him.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's it's it's concerning the man bet Wings. I mean,
I get that because you don't always put money on
that that's Wings. No, you don't. You can't understand.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I can't overstate how bad it is when watching him
meet at the.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
AM I lion Rogie, ain't. It's a work of art.
It's so wow.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
And that's why it's also a work of art to
see him lose the weight, because he will put it on.
That man is a polar bear. That man will put
on the blubber, burn it off with the hype. I mean,
it is just it is remarkable. Watch all right, he
ain't here. By the way, Rome's gone. We got heat
for man on the high couple Kevin Washington on a
trash talking Tuesday, which is coming up in about twenty
minutes or so, and a handful of minutes, we're gonna
have Antonio Daniels coming up. We'll talk some NBA. We

(18:41):
got summer league. We still got uh the where's where's
Lebron going?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Beat?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
All that good stuff. We'll get to that in a minute.
You threw out something you were you were you were
talking with Lamar. We were getting there. What were you
about to tell me?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Asking me? You were asking me, I was asking you.
Do you remember it wasn't Lamar, it was we were
talking about Houston. Oh, yes, see, average quarter And I said,
which average quarterback in the league, what Houston would have
had a better opportunity to go further in the playoffs
other than c J. Stroud last year? Then his name

(19:15):
Sam Mills. It could be. Yeah, I mean I personally,
personally in the wildcard round, I would have put Sam
Mills in and that I'm sorry David Smith, Yeah, Davis.
At halftime, I would have brought him out of the
divisional game. I would have brought him out and put
him in the game. But I also said, if they

(19:35):
did that, then the CJ. Stroud in Houston experiment is over.
Do you have a problem with that, well, he had
a Yes, when you don't have a replacement, now they're
they're like, what you don't want to do? You know
there's talent there, You've seen the talent. What you don't

(19:56):
want to do is make it. And this is what
you as a coach. They would have probablyrobably won that game,
is what I'm saying. Yeah, but they would have lost.
But we might few super Bowl ring. We might have
had a Super Bowl ring. I don't know if man
Mills would have been able to beat that Seattle defense,
but our defense, if I'm them, I'm saying that as well,

(20:20):
that would have been a hull of a matchup. I
would have still gone for Seattle for the the offensive
side of the ball would have been better for Seattle. Yes,
without a doubt.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
With j Is saying the running game, ken Walker the
third and all that, so I would have gone with
him as well to win it. But my point is, dude,
you can't be the reason we lost, all right. That's
all we ever asked is you know you understand you
don't have to be perfect. You don't have to be
Sam donald Is super Bowl wasn't perfect. Second half, no turnovers,
was ten or fourteen. I believe it was one hundred
and you know, fifteen yards or so. A. We got

(20:49):
it done, bo, when we win a Super Bowl, you
can't be the reason.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
CJ. Stroud was singularly the reason, the reason they kept
giving him the ball.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Here you go, try to get okay, we got it
back for you. He like, yeah, cool, cool interception they
put on three and out. All right, here you go,
here's the ball again. Just you know, and maybe you
just kick a field. Go there's still still turning over
an aception. It was really bad, yeah, Rogie. Quick question
for the update. More likely to happen c J. Stroud
returns to Pro Bowl form or c J. Stroud is

(21:20):
on a.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
New team next season. See this his last year of
his contract. C J Stroud a new team next year.
It's too many.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Listen, the NFC has the better teams, in my opinion,
like teams, the AFC has the better quarterback names. So
if you're talking about Pro Bowl form, I mean, shoot,
look at the guys. He's gonna have to be better
than in AFC. Right, we named so many of them already.
Arizona would love c J.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Stroud. Arizonah would love c J. Stroud. I think Carolina
will love c J. Stroud over Bryce Young one thousand percent.
I think Bryce Young feels like if y'all put me
on a real team. I think he looks at Sam
Donald and his like the size. The size thing, and
Sam Donald's a big quarterback thing for Brian athlete. For
Bryce Young is you can see it happening. It's too

(22:06):
it's the game is too big.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
So to speak figuratively literally, Hey man, well, game one
too big for Antonio Daniels, NBA Champ. He's gonna join
us here in a moment, right now us see Chris
getting you updated.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
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Speaker 2 (22:31):
Usc Chris appreciated it is the Odd Couple.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
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A D Whatever broken?

Speaker 7 (22:53):
What's up, fella?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
What's happening in ad? Ad Man, you got good, You
get a break out anywhere you hit the you know,
seasons long, you you you do your thing, you work hard.
You already take a little vacate with the family at all.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
No volleyball Nationals as soon as the season was over.
Soon as volleyball Nationals was over, went to Vegas. Got
back from Vegas last night.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
So a D Man, you know, the Lord did tell
us we got to rest on us at some point
the Sabbath.

Speaker 7 (23:19):
You know what, I'm gonna tell you what my rest was.
Rest was going to Vegas with my wife. We celebrated
twenty two years nice a merrig on the tenth of
July and no kids and no kids. So that was
that was the epitome of rest.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
And you know what, Ad I'm jealous, boy, I'll be
trying to get these kids. Somebody coming back. I'm gonna
come watch these kids. Somebody come get these kids.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I get it. Hey, let's get to this.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
And so I want to start with, actually, since you
were at Summer League, kind of a twofold question one,
how cool has it been? Give or take the last decade,
how summer League has become a real deal. We had
a little conversation earlier with Deon Taylor about that. And
then just any standouts. I mean, Kayler Williams, Kaylene Williams.
You know that's what you's too much football, too much
Caleb Wilson, He's looked incredible so far a couple of

(24:06):
games that we've seen him. But just anybody stand out
to you so far?

Speaker 7 (24:10):
Well, first the first part of your question, Yeah, and
some of these awesome. Now, it's really the only time
throughout the course of the year where Vegas becomes the
heartbeat of all basketball, right, of all basketball, because it's
not just the NBA Summer League, right, you have the
NBA Summer League that's going on there, all thirty teams

(24:32):
are not participating. You have college players that are working
out there. You have the EYBL Tournament that is going
on there, which is high school, but you have AAU
which is middle school. And you know, so you you
have so much the w NBA. Caitlyn Clark was playing
against the Las Vegas Ages down there. It's like the

(24:52):
heartbeat of all NBA basketball. Retired players, retired executives. It's
a awesome times. That's the go to Vegas, the network
and if you love and are passionate about the sport,
there's no better place to be as far as basketball is.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Concerned about summer league something what we we just got
the news at aj De Bonds that he's done, uh playing.
That's the trend now, right, You play a couple of
games and then you're done. Why Why? Why is that?
And then and the reason way it's become the reason.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
What the NBA has become. Right, this is the part
that the NBA has become now a managed lead injury management,
load management, everything management. This is no different before And
again I'm not I'm not real big on comparing the
contracting generations, but this this summer league we're talking about,
you know, and you have guys that are going out

(25:46):
in summer league and I will let me let me
give this out the way. First, I've never been that
big on summer league because it's a no win situation
for guys. It's a no win situation. So when you
look at the guy like like Taylor Wilson, right played incredible, Right,
played incredible in his first couple of games. A J

(26:09):
Debonds and Darren Peterson. When they play, well, do you
know what.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
The narrative is they were supposed to?

Speaker 7 (26:16):
Yeah, or they're playing against guys who probably won't be
on NBA rosters next year, right, so it doesn't really matter.
But then when they struggle, now it's used against him. Oh,
that guy's going to be a bus man. What my
team should have done is they should have took So
it's really become a no win situation for God.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
So you must listen to the odd couple because that
you sound like Rob Parker.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
Yeah, yeah, God can't win. You go out and you
killed that. Oh well he's supposed to Quille. You know,
these guys are gonna be playing in China next year.
And you go out and you struggle, it's like, oh man,
this guy the bus. It's really a no win situation
for players. For me, I just enjoyed the networking and
watching the potential that some of these young players have

(26:58):
shown them. Darren Peterson, the Ada Devonzas Burristle, Caleb Wilson,
these guys have been fantastic.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
And look, and that's my problem with it. I love it.
My whole question is if you're going to not let
them play in that environment for the entirety. It's only
a couple more days of competing and then the playoffs
start and then you know, most of the teams will
be eliminated anyway. But these guys are going to play.

(27:26):
They're going to go play somewhere, So why not allow
them to continue to play in a controlled environment and
refereed games where you can monitor them and all that.
These guys are gonna go wherever they're gonna go and
continue to play. We have plenty of guys getting hurt
in the Drew League and pick up games, So why
wouldn't you just let them play because they're not going

(27:49):
to stop playing until training camp.

Speaker 7 (27:52):
Well, I'll be honest with you, because guys don't play
as much as they once did. You may, you're right,
you may go, and you may play in the Droolie
Eager a lead here and there, the crossover with Dalkrafford.
You may do that. But outside of that, guys are
playing like they once did. Guys are doing more working
out than they're doing playing. You know, So a lot

(28:13):
of times you can catch a gy in a gym,
or two or three guys in the gym with the
trainer and a tear and a cone working out as
opposed to actually ten fifteen to twenty guys in the
gym getting up and down like guys used to do.
This is and again we don't have enough time to
have this conversation. But this is a big reason why

(28:34):
I feel like so many guys are injer now because
they're not playing as much as they once did. They're
not so their bodies aren't conditioned to play and endure
the rigors of an eighty two game season because they're
not preparing for that. Now.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Good point.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Well, and the craziest part is, dude, that's and that's
the whole point of load management. Yet there's no data
that shows if you load manage, you won't get injured.
Because all these guys are injured more than the historically.
A lot of training, a lot of overtraining for sure.
Antony and Daniels on with the odd couple on the
trash talking Tuesday, Kevin Washington, E for Salam, who's in
for Rob? I want to go here? I mean, we're
still on Lebron alert. Yep, We're still on the watch

(29:10):
to see where this all plays out. Some people I've
seen reports of it's down to Cleveland, and even Golden
State got back in this team. Some saying Cleveland in
Miami for you for your own I want to mix
it up a little bit, Okay, not just logically for
your entertainment purposes. Where would you like to see him go? Like, oh,

(29:31):
that would just be a fun watch NBA League pass?

Speaker 7 (29:34):
Oh oh you mean for me? Like what would be
an awesome two K team? Yeah? K, yes, Golden State Okay,
but I mean realistically that would be awesome. Like think
about if you you put in two K twenty seven
and you can be Lebron and Steph and Jimmy Butler

(29:54):
and Draymond Green and krit Tosberdingas all on the same team,
or Cleveland right where you can be Donovan Mitchell or
James Harden or Lebron James with Evan Mowbley and Jared Allen. Heck,
I mean Miami would be fun. He wouldn't be the
same because you have Giannis and you have Bam and
you have Lebron. But for entertainment purposes, I think it's

(30:16):
Miami because I mean Golden State because the biggest star
that Lebron is potentially rumored to join is Steph Curry.
We saw the last time these two were on the
same team, which was in the Olympics. Oh man, listen,
if that wasn't prime time entertainment, Like, yeah, I get it.

(30:36):
But the thing is they're not. He's not gonna win there.
He's not gonna win in the West. I will say
it again. I will hold to that he has a
much better chance of getting to the NBA Finals in
the Eastern Conference than he does in surpassing Victor Women
y'am in the San Antonio Spurs, stay Killdess, Alexander and
Oklahoma City done there, good luck.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Do you think that's his priority is to get back
to a finals.

Speaker 7 (31:01):
I can't see Lebron's day simply playing now just to play.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I don't I don't know any tickets. I don't think
it's ticket. I think he's side questions only.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
Player, he's the only player that is currently playing that
when you have the Goat conversation, what if everybody bring
up when you start having the Gold conversations with.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Him and Michael championships. Well, let me ask you this.
This is a great question, great segue into if he
does join say Cleveland, are he joins uh? Anybody, anybody
who can compete the Knicks. If he dispers and they
do go to the finals and they do win and
he's not the finals MVP, does that hurt his legacy

(31:45):
more at forty one? Yeah, I'm just letting you know.
I mean, that's gonna be You're right, people bring I'll.

Speaker 7 (31:50):
Tell you this is this is the narrative around Lebron though.
Like the gold post is always moving, true, it's always
moving with Lebron like it. This is the thing now
we are saying at forty one, and I don't know
what it will be at that time. He maybe forty two,
it will be two years. Yeah, at forty two years old,
if he's not the finals, MDP, we're gonna hold that

(32:12):
against him. We wouldn't have done that with anybody else
throughout the history of the sport.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Nobody, shoot, Kobe won't for the first three of them, right.

Speaker 7 (32:20):
That we would never do that with anybody. A forty
two year road and saying, hey, you know what, man,
I know he won the championship, but he wasn't the
best player on the team. So I don't, man, I
don't count that, Like, come on, man, that but that
beats to how great Lebron has been. That speaks to
the power of longevity.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
All Right, we gott to end it there.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Ad appreciate you as always, man, keep working hard, but
get you some breaks up in there, brother, get you
some rest, no doubt. Hey on the way Trash Talk
and Tuesday eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eighty
seven seven ninety nine on Fox Your chance to trash
whomever whatever you can do that next trash Talking Tuesday,
We'll hear from you. It's siakable. Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Eye Couple banger, good choice Miss Mary on the ones
and twos.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Hey, big shout out to Antonio Daniels.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Always great to chop it up a a d lovely
one of the best in the business for sure. So
great to hear that, Rob, Do you get that up
on the podcast? And if you miss any of today show,
be sure to check out the podcast. Just search The
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So again, just search the Eye Couple wherever you get
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Speaker 2 (33:40):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Still a lot left next hour the Kawhi story USC
Chris up during updates with it's just getting weirder and weirder,
so we kind of we'll get into that a little bit.
And also we got the All Star Game, just to
give you an update where we are on that. To
last I saw was two nothing. I kind of looked away.
I have to get you to three nothing now, Eric
League up three nothing. In the bottom of the first

(34:03):
they're up three nothing. So we'll keep you updated throughout
that as well. Anything you want to hate on right
now they're trash should say.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
No, man, I'm a peaceful man. You're a peaceful person
til somebody gets you going. Then you trash that. Then yeah,
and they got to go dumping out the trash. What
do you want to trash?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I'm just trying to think if it was anything I
want to trash right now, Miss Mary Mac ms.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Mary Mac always got something trash. What do you want
to trash? Mayonnaise? No, man, mayonnaise is trash, even your
special mayonnaise. Mary Man, you lucky Alex now Here. That's
that was a little crazy, Robberie. What you trashing? You
don't even let me get to I'm trashing you hesitating.

Speaker 8 (34:46):
I'm just I'm more mad about France and how they
lost today.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
All right, you've been talking about France all day.

Speaker 8 (34:51):
I have no because genuinely, initially, like I want of them,
I thought they were gonna win the whole World Cup.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
That's we all all did.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
Yeah, okay, anyways, but I wanted to see the finals
a France in England, like a repeat of Champions League,
because I'm an Arsenal fan, so I really wanted to
see it happen. But the way they played it was
like what the heck was going? It was really pooh
pooh ball for all ninety minutes.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
You ain't happy about it? It wasn't no you know
what I'm trashing.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I'm trashing being an adult, agreed man, because today this
guy's waiting on me right now to pay him. They
just a whole new hot water tank and all that stuff.
I had to do that great work. He shows him
all the pictures. He took care of everything. But so
that's a certain amount had to help some family out.
They had some issues, you know, some home things happened,

(35:42):
some stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
You gotta do that. Who you think helping with that?
Get in line? Bro and then Rogie. You've heard me
complain over the two years. I need a whole new refrigerator.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
By the way, I'm trashing all this new technology. Better
wash your and giants. They're ergonomically reckon. They're earth and
they're friendly and they're green. Yeah, but they don't work.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Like the old white ones the eighties and nineties. This
new refrigerator then I got we got this refrared. We've
had it for a while and it stopped working so
long ago. To do it was like, I ain't gonna
lie to you man on these trash. Look this is
the worker. He came out, looked at me, said, don't
tell nobody, but these are true. What kind is it? Samsung? No,
I can't do it. What is wrong with you? They
make TVs Bro Worldpool frigid Airs where you need to be.

(36:24):
That's it, world old White ones too, Worldpool Frigidaire. That's
the only brand you buy when it comes to refrigerators.
Everybody else They make other stuff like good good tablets
and your fridge, don't need a TV, don't and frozen
usc Chrisma bad No.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
I was gonna jump in on the trash and by
the way, frigidaire I got one myself just recently to
so wreck of there, I'm gonna trash and sorry, sorry
Kelvin a little bit on this. I'm trashing Spectrum. Oh uh,
somewhat one of their sales present opened a second account
in my name and I just got a call today.
Even though they said they had taken everything off the bill,

(37:05):
they're still trying to go after me for about like
sixty dollars, basically double dipping on my cable internet bill.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
So like this girlfriend or something, It's.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Been like a four month affair, just trying to be like, hey, guys,
you you signed me up for internet twice and you're
charging me twice.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I can write your frustration with that. I can get that.
You better make sure yeah, taking care of I got you, man.
I make a call. You can make a call. The
only thing I will say sometimes, you know what I
mean it is the family members to put stuff in
your name. You don't even know it. You know, you know,
you don't even know that all your uncle put something
in your name. Man, that's why I'm trashing. I know
you're right here, and I know you've got connection. I

(37:42):
got some connections connection. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
We'll talk off there.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I love them over there. They love me too. Even
that's a completely separate division. But that doesn't matter. It's
all connected. Don't't say that. People everything my cell phone there, Kelvin.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I think Parker has even asked me some stuff, Covin.
I think, as matter of fact, he did. We ain't
even did a show yet together. He was asking me,
do you get a family and friend discount?

Speaker 7 (38:10):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (38:10):
We ain't did one day of the show yet.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
We ain't even a couple yet, let alone.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, he's so mad. Every day he wakes up. Instead
of being happy, like there's my man on TV giving
me the news, he turns the TV right back off.
Ain't that crazy? Just count? What kind of support is
that stick? With his Fox Sports Radio
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