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March 24, 2025 40 mins

Welcome in to a Magic City Monday! Rob and Kelvin try to figure out if Rick Pitino was wrong or right on benching his best player in the tournament. College Basketball Analyst DeShaun Tate swings by to help make sense of why Rick Pitino benched his best player. And a girl’s high school basket coach gets fired for pulling one of his players’ ponytails!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:54):
buying should be coming up in this hour. Number two
Deshaunte basketball analysts will talk more n c A tournament
will do that and a lot of good stuff to
get too. Still and uh well, let's just let's go
to that Arkansas Saint John's game.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
And it was coach cal against Rick Patino, not not
buddy buddy.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
They said that they have a mutual respect for them,
but other people say they hate each other.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
That's what they.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Say, I think I think it's it's uh, oh can
I that was about to be a bad example.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
I was gonna say, like, I'm not gonna bring that on.

Speaker 6 (01:38):
Don't do that, do that.

Speaker 7 (01:39):
But yeah, I just think it's, uh, you know, like
I like him, but he's too much like me or
too similar and and and on my heels and the
thought of is he better than me? So I think
there's that element too, you know though, like the the
teacher trying to be better the teacher, the student trying
to be better than the teacher vibe.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
I get a little bit of that too.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I just I'm always surprised when coaches act brand new
at a game. So in this game, he benches like
one of the star players.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, r J.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
Lewis Junior, how many what are you doing last? Six?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:21):
So basically, uh, Lewis Junior hits two free throws to
get the game within two with four minutes and fifty
seconds six seconds left, So you're thinking, all right, cool,
we're good.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
You know, we were down two.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
We gotta still got our best, one of our best players,
and all of a sudden we don't see him again.
And they go on eleven to four run Arkansas does
Paul game to win the game, and so everybody's curious, Well,
what the heck happened?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
You know, why why didn't he come back?

Speaker 6 (02:50):
No, forget when we talk about the best, he was
the big.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Ten ten player, big Yeah, player of the year.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
I mean big Big East, sorry, Big East player of
the year.

Speaker 7 (02:59):
Yeah, so says a guy, this is the guy, and
so everybody was obviously curious, Like he just knocks down
two free throws and we get ready to go.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Lewis Junior did not have a great game. He was
three for seventeen from the field. So he had an
awful day. And let's sear Rick Patino trying to defend
this to reporters when he's questioned on it.

Speaker 8 (03:20):
You had RJ on the bench, you know, for a
pretty long stretch at the end. Was that just because
he just didn't wasn't making him or was there something
more to it?

Speaker 9 (03:29):
Played thirty minutes, It's a long time, so he was tired. No,
played thirty minutes, and I went with other people. You
already know the answers, Roger. You're asking leading questions. You
already know it. So don't ask leading questions. You already
know why he didn't play. Was there one play with
RJ that made you sit him the last five minutes?
You know he was three for seventeen. You know he
was oh for three. So you're answering your own I'm

(03:50):
not going to knock one of my players, but you just.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
Did by giving the stats.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Why can't you say I didn't think you know, like
a lot of players, they'll be like, let him shoot
out of it.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
He's a star.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
He could get hot, make three baskets at the end,
winning the game, right, have a terrible Rick?

Speaker 6 (04:09):
You're asking leading questions.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
No, we're trying to figure out what you're thinking of
benching your best player when the game was within two points.
Somehow you survived. How about questioning you want to take
the whole team out? They shot four for forty one
a combined Arkansas and Saint John's. This is college basketball?

(04:32):
Four for forty one from three? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 6 (04:37):
What is this?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
So Rick doesn't more than I'm not throwing one of
my kids done to the point you did.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
You didn't play him in the last four fifty six?
What what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
You you're you're big enough to take the kid out
of the game, but you can't say why, Hey, I
don't think that kid's a fantastic player. I just I
don't think he had it tonight, and I wanted to
give another kid an opportunity who had worked hard in
practice his backup. We did this earlier this year in

(05:09):
the game at Buffalo, and that kid gave us a spark.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Uh, I got it? Is that so hard?

Speaker 7 (05:18):
I think I never thought the day would come. Then
I'll be throwing brick Patino bail. I think I'm throwing
them some bail here. I think what he was trying
to do was not throwing fully under the bus and
say two robs point, man, we don't shoot threes like this.
They were one of the worst shooting three point teams.

(05:38):
We don't shoot threes like this. This ain't our game.
And every time I look up, you're shooting threes. And
not just him, obviously the team as a whole. He
talked about how their assists, the ball moves better. We
get assists, we play better. So I think there might
have been something where it's like, hey man, what's up
with these shots selections? This is why we find ourselves
in these positions. We keep chucking up bad shots, chucking

(05:58):
up bad threes. Let me find someone who's gonna run
what we're trying to run. Let me find someoneho's gonna
run the offense the way I'm trying to design this
so we can actually get some fluidity and get the
offense flowing. So I think he was trying to do that,
and not put him under the bus and say he
wasn't doing I asked, you saw him taking bad shots
this but he.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Was only zero for three from three, so they missed
a lot, right, That's.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
Why I said the team This to me reads of
I'm looking at you and saying, don't do something.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
And you went out there.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
And then if I say moved the ball moving seventeen
and had ten miss threes, Okay, maybe I'm buying into that.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
There, Sony had hit beef like you know, you know,
all gets to those huddles and he says, hey, man,
I'm sick of y'all not moving the ball. Move the ball.
That's the reason why we're you know, we're down. We're
taking easy the first shot available. That doesn't mean it's
the best shot available. Blah blah blah. And then you
go out and do that one or two more times,
because the logic is I'm keeping my best player in
the game. So to me, this is reading something bigger,

(06:58):
you know what I mean, something bigger happened and.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Just he was I think, I think you have to
look at this.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
If you're Rick Patino, the game is on the line, you're.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Down by two, the big East player of the year.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
You can't turn your back on him if we're gonna
lose Lewis Junior, stack it up all the way and
I'll live with it. His his rise back to prominence.
Rick Patino is hitch to that kid's wagon all year. Now,
all of a sudden, when it gets tough, your bail

(07:37):
on the kid. I don't buy it. I don't think
that you do that. You still would rather have that
kid out there and think with the shooters mentality. You
played high school basketball at a high level wanna State
championship in Michigan. All it takes is for him to
make one and then he might make three. To add
am I right or wrong? No, You're right, And what

(07:58):
makes it even weird?

Speaker 7 (07:59):
I will say that so I played, as you mentioned
with would be the high school player of the year.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
The whole country, not just Michigan, the entire country.

Speaker 7 (08:08):
And it was Lavell Blanchard shot to leavell Win to Michigan,
had a really nice career.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Did he make the NBL.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
Dude, Lavell Blanchard, I was ten years too early. He
I think in Toronto had him in for a little bit.
What he was best at he would be he'd have
a twelve career. Now undersized, he's six seven, but that
era was Carmelo, Kobe Lebron, Paul Pierce.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
You're supposed to be real.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
Jason Richardson, who we played against in that state championship,
you gotta be crazy athletic. He wasn't quite that athletic
as them. Shoot the lights out, rebound with the best
of them. He would have been a stretch for in
the NBA. Now he'd had a nice career. Givember giving
you twelve and six a night, you know, for ten years,
made one hundred million. He would have had a career.
He was too early. He was in that Kobe Bright

(08:59):
if you say seven, it's like dark O dark O.
What he's doing yep, Like like Darko right now will
fit into this not banging rebounding, tough era he was
supposed to be in, and that happens Lavell in this
because dude, think PJ. Tucker guard centers nowadays, Draymond he
could be a stretch forward. Sret's five knocking down threes,

(09:21):
think a not I'm saying no that My saying is
alhor for skill wise, and he's not that big, but
just knock down shots, rebound play some good and he
would have had a nice career, but he was too
early where if you're six six seven, you're one of
these treats Chasey McGrady, Carmelo, Paul Pierce type players.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
My point is, dude, if we're.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
In the game and if our coach pulled Lavel and
it was like, uh, Lavell is just not coming back.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Oh is in foul trouble. No he's not. Oh he's hurt.
No he's not. I'm just I'm mad at him right now.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
You talk about that now, you try to fight through that,
But mentally, what does that do for us, Like, oh
my gosh, how are we coming back when level is
just sitting on the bench right now. And so that
is one of those things where I could see it's
not only are you messing with the player himself, Lewis
Junior the team, because right, you're all right, we're trying
to come back. And every time you look your best

(10:12):
player sitting on the bench, tyl over his head drinking gatoray,
you're like, ah, we need the cavalry to come up
in here and at some point. So it's hard to
be competitive when what you're used to, you're used to happening.
If you look at this Laker team right now at
your point and you're looking, go, all right, all right,
we got it down six, all right, Lucas coming in
at some point, and if Luca ain't coming in, you're like,

(10:34):
I don't give a day. If Lucas five for forty,
bring Luca back business. That's my point. And that's why
I think Rick missed a body?

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Is something personal? Did he say something to him?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
You give it up like because love like, And it
doesn't make sense what you've done to the team and
even your success with the school.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
You weren't out of it.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
If you went down by if Jay he missed a
three and he had missed eleven shots in a row
and you're down by fifteen, can you take him out? Then? Okay,
we're not gonna win this game. One minutes to go,
five minutes to go, we're down, We're not You can't
make a shot.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Or I'm hurt.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
He try to push through as much as you know.
I'm not, man, I'm not gonna hit. This doesn't make sense.
And then to not be able to just articulate to
the media and the Saint John's fans who would want
to know why the best player on the team isn't
playing the final five minutes in a two point game. Okay,
forget about what happened, forget about the three for seventeen

(11:28):
to nothing. That's how you have to look at it. Right,
the whole team is shooting. They combined Arkansas and say
John four for forty one. Everybody, everybody's bad, So why
are you picking out your best player?

Speaker 7 (11:43):
That's why I'm reading into this. It was something not
necessarily like personal person, but something where I'm looking at
you saying, only do this, and you went out there
and didn't do it, and maybe I said, hey, remember
we're only doing this, and you did it again, or
a man Blake, Andy Blake, I don't give a dang
about you know something, because it doesn't make sense. Rick
Patino wants to win. He've been coaching for forty fifty years.

(12:05):
Miami's seventy two years old, so he's trying to win,
and this is against his young mintee, right, this is
your comeback story here right here, right, Yeah, he went
to he's.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
At Saint John's, right, and then you're gonna do this
at that.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
That's why it reads something personal, like something happened where
you might have you know, I don't know, because otherwise
it's just logically basketball wise doesn't make sense. Luka Doncics,
Lebron James Jason Tatum can go five for twenty but
in the last four minutes of this game and win
all game, well, winner go home game, right, guess who's
playing this Saint the Kobe Bryant in Game seven with

(12:40):
the Lakers seven for twenty two, Dangan If it came
down to one shot, who you think that ball was
going to?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Right? You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (12:47):
So yeah, I just That's why I said it must
be something where he was like oh really, oh really, okay,
because obviously he was broke three for seventeen. Clearly the
shot wasn't falling, It wasn't at night. Maybe you get
him a blow for two minutes, like all right, see
maybe he said somebody else up.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
You don't even know he's a decoy, Like you still
gotta you still gotta guard him that you know, I'll
leave him open. He's three for seventeen and then all
of a sudden he knocks down three straight threes and
as ball game.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Dude, That's why I'm like something weird here man.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
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Rick Patino do the right thing? I think he did
the wrong thing. I think you got to go with
your best player, even on the worst shooting night or
bad night. Uh, the game was within reach, and uh,
I think he made a mistake. You understand it.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
A little bit more.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
I'm saying there has to be something else to it
than just he wasn't three for c he was three
for seventeen. There's something to it, you know, because that
doesn't make any sense because last point, rop, this ain't
a playoff game where we got a best of seven.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
No, right, this is the winner go home, And for
him to do that, my thing is.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Maybe Patino knows, but but I'm still saying you can't
do no matter what, no matter what, because this is
about the school, his teammates, and you.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
Just said it.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
This will winner going on.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
You'll be like, we want the best player back in,
back in.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
You start looking at that bench. Coach, No, coach. I
don't know if you know, but Louis is sitting right there.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
Put him back in, all right?

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and I having a conversation about Rick Petino not playing
Lewis Junior the last Basically we'll call it five minutes
of the game three for seventeen. But still folks are saying,

(15:47):
what the heck? Why he's your best player? Why wouldn't
you play him? He wouldn't fully give it us an
answer other than say he was missing some shots. We
say nah, So I say something else to it? You say, no,
matter what, he's got to play ninety nine that.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Game was hanging in the ballance. You could get hot
on one shot for sure.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
Uh. Edward in Florida, you're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Edward?

Speaker 10 (16:10):
Hey, guys, what a pleasure, Rob Park. I go way
back with you. I'm originally from Detroit.

Speaker 11 (16:15):
Really on you from Florida.

Speaker 10 (16:17):
You're calumnist with the news. What a pleasure to talk to.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Man. That's awesome. Man, I appreciate that support.

Speaker 11 (16:25):
So you guys nailed it.

Speaker 10 (16:27):
Though, you are exactly right. When I heard Patino in
this press conference.

Speaker 12 (16:32):
My first though, how dumb.

Speaker 11 (16:34):
Does you think we are?

Speaker 12 (16:35):
I know and say you the leading question that sounds
pretty cool.

Speaker 10 (16:41):
I guess on some level makes no sense to legitimate questions.
They need to be answered.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
I mean, I hate the guy.

Speaker 10 (16:47):
I'm in Michigan, Alump. I hated him ever since Louisville
beat John delon.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Wolver I'm still mad about that.

Speaker 12 (16:54):
My man.

Speaker 10 (16:54):
I hate it. But the guy can coach. But the
guy's got an ego. The guy's smart. I think he's
gonna say that and we're gonna believe it. Right, No way,
there's something more of the story. My question is find
out what it is. Because you're exactly what I don't.
I want to know what this kid said.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah, something was there that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
You were in the game, down by two, and let
me tell you something.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
Thanks the word.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
Patino doesn't want to do nothing else but win, right,
you know what I mean? That's what he cares about most.
And for him to put his best player, he had
to have maybe done or said something that he looked
at him like.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
What you ain't playing.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Man?

Speaker 7 (17:30):
Blank, you coach. I'm not again, not only the kids.
We don't know what on my brain says. It has
to be something other than just he's three for seventeen.
We only down two.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
Mike and Georgia, you're on the eye couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up? Mike?

Speaker 8 (17:42):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (17:42):
What's going on?

Speaker 12 (17:43):
Fellas?

Speaker 11 (17:43):
How you I'm good, man, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
How are y'all doing good?

Speaker 8 (17:47):
Mike good good?

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (17:50):
I hate to echo what everybody else is saying, but
I'm in total agreement with you, Kevin is Patino is
too good of a coach to let his best player
not play when the game is on the line.

Speaker 12 (18:02):
He's like that.

Speaker 11 (18:02):
It's like the player must have done something or said
something or showed a bad attitude.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
It reminds me.

Speaker 11 (18:07):
Of the situation with Malcolm Butler and Belichick. We just yeah,
will know one day when it comes out in the book,
will know the truth.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah you know, I'm playing him in the Super Bowl
right right?

Speaker 7 (18:18):
Remember, yep, another one will be Remember Scotty pipp and
Phil Jackson said, have you gonna run this play for
Tony Kuk coach go in the game.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
It was like no, because it should be me.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
It was a year Michael Jordan's and he didn't go
back in a big, huge playoff.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
I'll never forget that. Yeah, yeah against the Knicks and
he made it through.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
The shot and that Scotty was looking there with the
with the stak face like oops. So yeah, but that's
my point of where like something bigger than just the moment.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
That's Mike, appreciate it. Billy in Florida, Billy on the
couple of.

Speaker 12 (18:47):
Fox Sports Radio, Fellas, hope you're doing well, Thank you
for having me.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
Yes, a great day. I'm great. Monday. A little hot
here in Los Angeles, but we love it.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Ninety degrees.

Speaker 12 (18:57):
It's warming up in Florida too, man. But let's and
I gotta say from my perspective. I'm an Arkansas razorback fan,
so it was great, you know, to see r. J.
Lewis sit down like that. But the weird thing man
look at John Caliperry and what he had to coach through.
He had three of his five starters out with seven
minutes remaining half the quarter basically, and he had They

(19:17):
each had four founts, Boogie Flann, Jonas Idu, and a
couple of others too. So you know cali Perry's coaching
in the same instance where he's got to either play
those guys or sit those guys. But he went ahead
and played three guys with four fouls, three of his
biggest players, and even Boogie Flann who just came back
shot two of eight for six points. But cali Perry
knows how much of an impact he is, especially in

(19:38):
those crunch time minutes. It didn't make any sense for r. J.
Lewis to sit, and I gotta stay as a Hawk fan,
it was definitely a relate to see r J.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Lewis sit down, all right, all right, like that, Let's
go to Chris.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
We go to squeezehim and Chris and Kentucky, you're on
the odd couple Fox Sports Radio, what's up, quz Hey?

Speaker 8 (19:55):
My bought on it is.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, he messed up. He had to have his best
player on the floor, and.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
He choked on it.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
I think his history with Cali Perry got the better
of him. He's like two out of the last eleven
would win. So I mean, Carles had his number and
he was doing everything he could to make sure that
he got that w It was.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
Crazy, It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I think he blanked out Christ He forgot his best
players on the bench for five minutes.

Speaker 8 (20:22):
No, he shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
But I think it's showing that how out of date
Rick Betino is with the way that Coyle's basketball's being
played now. He took his pride and cost his team
the game.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Can you can't play like you can't coach like that?
That pride thing, you know what I mean? Like what's
going well? What's good for the team, and what's good
for the team is that Lewis Junior should.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
Be in the game.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Okay, Like he had a bad night. You think he's
trying to miss seventeen.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
That's why I said, you know that it ain't it's
gonna come out camp. It's gonna be in a book,
it's gonna be in a tweet, it might be a
Instagram live, but it's gonna come out because ain't there's
nothing about the shooting. Every great huge Larry Bird had off.
He might be the one who never had off night.
Everybody has off.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Michael Jorge shot three for seventeen.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Maybe I had a couple of bad nights, but he
was just so good in other ways. Defensively, I'm gonna
get to the file line. Yeah, all right, And he
probably just dunked or jumped over a human being and
then got to it as well.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
All right.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
JOSHN Tate getting ready to join us Jean Taten DeShawn Well,
I was to say, I was, I was here, I
am reading I've had a little extra flavor to it.
This Tate getting ready to join us join us a
week or two ago. We talk some more hoops, but
right now we got to get you set up. What's
trending with Steve the Saker.

Speaker 13 (21:37):
I wish I remember the year where there was a
Jordan playoff game where he missed a ton of shots,
and of course he's Jordan.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
He kept shooting right exactly and that and that's kind
of the point, shoot Steve, right, and you try to
shoot your way out of a nuts, Steve. What I
did like was the four for forty one or whatever
they were for three combined Arkansas and Saint John Like just.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
All kids in all of basketball the right way.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
Oh by the way, Steve, we're talking five year olds.
I coached my daughter's five and these kid they lowered
the rim to eight feet and these kids are coming
through now all.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
But a lot like the got the players as ko
ed they're chucking.

Speaker 13 (22:14):
Among the many blowout Women's tournament games so far, there
was one recently where a team shot I think it
was literally eighteen percent from the floor and got blown out,
but over half their shots were three pointers.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
It's no sunset. At what point did you.

Speaker 13 (22:29):
Stop taking literally the lowest percentage shot court, Tell y'all
help your team with something else.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
It's got See we call Michael Jordan the goat, right,
he's the goat.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (22:39):
You know, if you want to say Maya Moore the
female go to Tarasi. They didn't just shoot threes. Mike
was men ranging you to death. Get into the hole.
And I'm so, I'm like, did we want to study
the goats or no?

Speaker 9 (22:50):
Right.

Speaker 13 (22:50):
I love the reference, by the way, to the mid
nineties fulls playoff game because I very much remember when
Phil Jackson said Scotty opted out.

Speaker 8 (22:57):
I chose not to go on the court last night,
his own specific reason.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
I put in a better passer and Pete Myers.

Speaker 8 (23:04):
Besides, Scotty had a fad lip and looked ugly at
that spot.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah, we got the job accomplished. And that's all.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
Is that not awesome? Phil Jacks?

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Phil was one of one. Phil was one of one.

Speaker 13 (23:15):
Here you go eight eight NBA games tonight, Washington's lost
four in a row. Wizards have a record of fifteen
and fifty five, but they're only down fifty four to
fifty two to the Raptors early in the third quarter.
The Lakers are down one at Orlando, sixty three sixty
two for the Magic early in the third quarter. Luka
Doncic twenty one points for LA. The Timberwolves do have

(23:35):
Anthony Edwards on the court, playing despite a thumb injury,
but they're losing it Indiana in the third sixty five
fifty seven pacers, and he's back for the Mavericks. Anthony
Davis playing tonight. He's missed six weeks with a groin injury.
MAVs are leading fifty five forty two at Brooklyn Davis
with six points in twelve minutes so far Tonight John Moranda.

(23:56):
The Grizzlies will miss a fifth straight game on Tuesday
with a sore ham string. Texas new basketball coach is
Sean Miller from Xavier. In women's hoops tournament game Maryland
in double overtime, won eleven one to eight winners against Alabama.
The Tennessee Titans signed kicker Joey Slie. Dodgers short stop
Mookie bats out again tonight due to illness, but he

(24:17):
did have a full workout today and was finally able
to keep some solid food down. He's been sick a
couple of weeks. And you may have heard the A's
have moved from Oakland to a temporary three year home
in Sacramento. They're actually sharing the ballpark with the Giants,
Triple A affiliate, and so they're gonna get some work
on that field. They have hired more in the grounds crew.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
I am going to a game Saturday, April twenty six
in Sacramento. I can't wait to see what the you know,
the small yeah like tiles, thousand seats major leagues. I'm
telling you they'll probably sell out every night. I mean
all the fans, right, hear you say, I've been covering.
This is nineteen eighty seven. We know Rob, They'll hear you.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
This is so small.

Speaker 13 (25:00):
They did not put in artificial turf with the heat
that comes to Sacramento in the summers. But they do
say they have a system where they're drain lines under
the playing surface that they're going to share because they
expect the field to wear out by June with two
teams playing on it. But they have with this system,
they can pump cool air into the field from underneath,
move it through the soil to help promote root growth

(25:21):
for the grass of the field. Also the same system,
if there's a heavy rainstorm, flip a switch and you
can pull water off the field, or you can put
water under the field and water that way for the
root stream.

Speaker 7 (25:34):
Steve, you know what they can't tell me. They can't
tell me we don't have money to feed the homeless
or school. Wow, you just told me. The water can
come from up the earth down to the earth. They
can summon the rain gods, but we don't have money
for school or for the homeless.

Speaker 13 (25:48):
Actually it was the ACE who said they didn't have
money for players. Yeah, that's a separate thing.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
That's a separate thing. Signed a couple, Steve, Thank you
so much.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
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Join now Basketball Officionado SHAWNTE based in Atlanta. Everything keep going,
that's what keep going. That's right, all right? Uh, DeShawn,
what's happening?

Speaker 6 (26:21):
How are you?

Speaker 8 (26:23):
I was standing out. The energy ain't the same as
it was the last time I came home. We got
sixteen teams advance and to the to the U to
the sweet sixteen in the tournament, and one of them is.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Just for you.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
RP.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
Who's at Michigan State.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
I'll say, I gotta be Michigan State.

Speaker 8 (26:39):
Yeah, I'm just saying.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
I'm just saying, wake me up when they win the
national championship.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
That's all I gotta say, I got another twenty five years.

Speaker 6 (26:46):
I know, shaw, I've been waiting for twenty five years.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
If they win, you know, he's gonna call off on Tuesday,
right that, you know the game on Monday. If is
O win, I'm telling you is O will call you
out in the press. Coott my gosh, it's been twenty
five years. How does it feel to win?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Well?

Speaker 7 (27:01):
I love my players. They play so hard for him.
By the way out, What's say, Rob Parker?

Speaker 6 (27:07):
What he lose out?

Speaker 8 (27:08):
And I'm gonna make sure of it. I'm gonna be
to make sure it happened.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
All right, Well, let's talk about it.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
We were just talking about Saint John's yeah, and Arkansas
and basically, what did you make of with Patino not
playing Lewis Junior the end of the game, the last
five minutes in the.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
Two point game.

Speaker 8 (27:28):
Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me, Rob,
And I mean I get it, he wasn't having a
great shooting night and whatever else what have you. Let's
just be really transparent about it though, too. More than
just him wasn't having a good shooting d night and
they were there on the floor as well, so you know,
it's on in the transparency. Now, who am I to,
you know, argue with the guy who's taken six teams

(27:48):
to the NCAA tournament and all of this, But no,
it didn't feel right. It didn't seem right. The vibe,
the field, the energy just didn't really seem fitting for
the decision that was made. And one team's advancing the
other teams not. And it just sounds like there's something
else that was kind of underlining, undisclosed that we were
at being told, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
I'm looking at some of these games, and one of
the things we're talking about is just the lack of continuity.
And you know, we used to you doing We're around
the same age, so you remember kind of seeing the
teams obviously five to five for a couple of years,
of UNLV for a few years, Duke team for two, three,
four years, and now it's, uh, you gotta just got
to watch them and just enjoy either the name in
the front or just enjoy the game in general because

(28:30):
you don't often know them, just your thoughts on watching
it and from maybe how you watched it ten fifteen
years ago versus how you're watching and enjoying the tournament now.

Speaker 8 (28:39):
No, I'm enjoying it. You ain't gonna get no complaints
at the Tate residents for just college basketball in general,
no matter who's in it, but or whoever, wherever they're
playing at and what have you. And I think that
you know, coach Team No kind of alluded to some
of that earlier in the season talking about, hey, we
don't haven't really been actively pursuing many recruits. We've really
been trying to find know how we can get more older,

(29:01):
more experienced by just recruiting out of the transfer portal.
And so where I think nil is actually a good
thing for college basketball is where some guys realize they'll
probably make more money on the collegiate level than if
they left a little bit early and set on someone's
professional bench and decided to stay and you know, make
some change and give people fans an opportunity to viewership

(29:23):
to continue to know who they are. The problem is
is we don't know where they're playing. We know they're
in college, but we don't know where they're at. So
that's something that I think kind of goes against it
a little bit. But more college basketball I think is
always good and the opportunity to know who these guys are.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I think this tournament has been a dudu because they
just haven't been enough upsets to make you feel about it.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Yeah, you need the nun lady.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
We see a nun with a wheelchair team lead eight.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
That is fair, that that is fair. However, what I
will see is typically even we haven't seen many of
the buzzer beaters and upsets and all that stuff. You've
had some. You've had your Drake, you got Colorado State,
you have me nice. But what I will say is
that by this time we're used to having just a
little bit of chalk. You've got some big name coaches
that are still in it, big name programs. You've got Duke,

(30:16):
You've got Arizona, you got you know, quite a few
different teams, Michigan State, how about Caliperiot, Arkansas. So you've
got some sprinkled in here and there. But I will
say enough to say that you know, you do have
the programs, it's just hard to keep up with. Like
we were talking about earlier in the segment where some
of these guys are playing, how about this, It's been
almost twenty years since Florida's back to back championship. They

(30:39):
might be going back to the final feign, playing for
a title. So I get it some of it, I'll
be honest, Sean.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
Just a matter of Sean, you sound like somebody who
loves college basket You.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
All in no matter what.

Speaker 8 (30:52):
Yeah, he has to advocate. Somebody has to advocate.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Now keep fighting.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
What you got to do is report. You got to advocate.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yeah, So I get what you mean.

Speaker 7 (31:01):
Like, it's good you got coach cal, you have Rick Petina,
And that was a nice little, you know, juicy battle.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
We know they've battled before.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
But to Rob's point, where I agree, you need the storyline,
Like we go into these tournaments.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
To Sean, we don't know, you know a lot of
the teams are sixty eight. We don't know.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
We'd obviously know the blue bloods. But that's what made
it fun.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
You take this magical ride with a couple of teas
and you mentioned the uh, the the you know, the
athletic trainer, the manager with McNee state.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
That was a fun little story. But usually get more.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
Those usually get some buzzer beatings, usually get something where
you're like invested in this team for the little ride,
and we just haven't had much of that. And it's
been some good games, so I'm not making like as
if there hasn't been, but that the pop the sizzle,
it ain't popping and sizzling like it normally does.

Speaker 8 (31:45):
Yeah, and I understand that. I respect that. I overstand that.
You mean to tell me that you guys aren't on
the Cooper Christ hype train for crying out loud. Isn't
enough of a storyline for you? As how about this
for a storyline? How about this? You will get your
storyline at the end of the year year with the
team and the coach who's so deserving and a Hall
of Fame coach as far as I'm concerned, by the

(32:06):
time you give him his respect and credit where it's due.
I think Kelvin Sampson is going to make the storyline
himself and be the one standing on the ladder with
the scissors in hand. And he doesn't have to go
far to do it. It's going to be right down
the road in San Antonio.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
I brought him up the other day. We talked about that.
Remember who needs.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
One yes, and last thing, who did you pick before
the tournament started? And where are you now? As far
as who's going to win the National Championship.

Speaker 8 (32:30):
I feel great about it. I picked the Houston Cougar
is the one team that's not in the tournament anymore
that I picked in the final four was was Saint John's.
But I did, you know, go on and pick I
picked Duke, I picked Houston, I picked Saint John's and
of course you know I had to pick Sparty and.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Then you.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
Pick him every year. It was worse than you are
with the Lions. He's worse.

Speaker 8 (32:55):
Definitely, don't pick him every year. But guess what, they're
always in the one person you don't want to play
in the month of March. And you know, why do you.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Keep saying that Devin want anything? In twenty five years,
I would want to play Tom Mizzo.

Speaker 8 (33:07):
You're having a conversation about a national championship. I'm all
with you on that, no question. But when we're talking
about teams that you want to stay away from this
time of the year because they're going to be tough
to be they typically got into the final four, which.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
In fact, they don't get to the final four all
the time.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Let's not twenty five years they made it what six times,
Let's not make it like they make it every year.

Speaker 8 (33:27):
Made it eight, made it eight. He's made it eight times.

Speaker 12 (33:30):
Rob, what are we doing?

Speaker 6 (33:32):
That's a third of the time.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
It's not every aut when they have the celebrity boxing
match and Tomzel it'll be fun.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
I fight time Mizzo right now?

Speaker 8 (33:40):
How many? How many programs can we not say the
same thing about.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
It's about It's about it, It's about it's about winning,
It's about winning. You can think of that Timezzo he
would give up all those final fours for one more championship.

Speaker 8 (33:53):
He would, of course, and anybody would. But some of
your most story programs go how long? Then Danny made
them go twenty years between two thousand and eight and
eighty eight and eight, and then did it again in
what twenty two?

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Well, the only difference is Matt, I don't see Michigan
State winning again been.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
Hasn't it been ten years for this same duke program
that gets the best recruits in the country every year?
How about coach Califerni when he was a kid Kentucky.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
Yeah, one, I get it. But twenty five years program.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Tom Mizzo is now going. He's trying to push uh
at Syracuse. So Jim Beahi, who won one in fifty
two years, that's what Tom Mizzo's going to be.

Speaker 8 (34:33):
Well, that's what it looks like, that's what's trended. That's
what's trended, and he's sticking around for that. How about
that storyline? You want another storyline? When all of your
colleagues are going away from Tom Mizzo should retire.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
He's your retire after this year when they get knocked out,
he should retire.

Speaker 8 (34:48):
So to keep going to the Sweet sixteen and playing
yourself deep into the tournament when a lot of other
coaches aren't.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
I want you to enjoy it.

Speaker 8 (34:57):
No, it's not massive, Shawn.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
I want you to enjoy your beautiful family. Tonight.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
Rob is going have you here till midnight, Tonna. You
know you know he's gonna do keep hagging you on
the show. You know, Hey, we appreciate your man as always.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 7 (35:12):
Deshaun Tate right there joining the I Couple on a
Magic City Monday. Hey, there was a coach that went
viral for doing something to one of his female players
that a lot of people have some thoughts on, including us.
We'll give it to you next to They Couple, Rob
Kelvin on The Magic City Monday, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
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Speaker 4 (35:43):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
You can tell Mary's here it is they couple Robin
Kevin on the Magic City Monday, clearly comedy live from
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Speaker 4 (35:54):
And I mentioned this earlier.

Speaker 7 (35:56):
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(36:17):
the air.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
We were talking about this earlier.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
Man somebody said, you know what, Dan Hurley, I heard
your complaints and yelling I want up you. And that
is a high school basketball coach, Jim Zulo. He said
he was a coach who at the end of the
game and the you know, the the congratulation line, if
you will, when you tap up the other team.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
He pulled one of his.

Speaker 7 (36:40):
Players hair, ponytail, pulled it straight up, and allegedly he
says that, you know, they lost the champions they lost
a championship game. They're lined and he told her to
go get in line to tap up, shake hands, and
she said something, you know, kind of set something back
to the coach, and he snapped and he, boy, if
you've seen any pull her ponytail and you can see

(37:02):
the girl right behind her the team. Hey, coach, coach,
what youre doing? And then must have said something bad
and he comes and pulls it again. Uh so he's
eighty one and probably shouldn't have been coaching. I'm just
why I hite that I'm just.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Being eighty one, still coaching Hi high school throws for
years something eighty one.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (37:22):
He said he deeply regrets his behavior following the loss,
and I want to offer my sincereious apologies to Haley
and her family.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
Continued also, he didn't want apology.

Speaker 7 (37:31):
No, and as a coach, under no circumstances is acceptable
to put my hands on the player.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
And I'm truly sorry.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I didn't want to say. I wish I could have
had those moments back.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
You can't do it. This is a different world we
live in. You just can't touch people. You remember when
Tom is old any punch of player you remember in
the chest during the time out, people came down.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
Like that.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Stuff is just Who was the other one the Ohio
State coach right, who punched a.

Speaker 7 (38:05):
Yeah, these dudes have some some blackout moments, but they
just literally lost it.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
What what are we doing here? Yeah? So here's the thing.

Speaker 7 (38:14):
I think there was a militarized way, military way of
doing things, right you, sir, Yes, sir, sergeant.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
I can punch you in the chest.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
I can grab you by the back of the neck
obviously if it's football, grab your face mask come here,
and you know, drab your jersey. And I still think
some of those things may be applicable when you're talking
about like football, grabs your helmet to get your attention,
grab your jersey. But you absolutely can't grab the body
of a person, let alone a high school girl, emphasis

(38:42):
heavy on girl. You cannot pull her by the back
of her by her ponytail and pull her backwards, not
like a pull hey, like like a padding of the head, like, hey,
good game, we'll get him next time. I understand that
to a yanker headback, where all of a sudden her
nose is pointing up at the sky, and the double
back and do it again. This is where eighty one
years is a problem because you've been doing this too

(39:04):
long and again you sincerely may not even even meant
it in the way that we perceived it, because maybe
back in nineteen eighty one this was something you could
have done. In nineteen seventy six, this is something you
could have done. This is why eras changed and what's
expected and what the norms are.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
We talked about this earlier.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
But that that ruined, that that ended Woody Hates' career,
and that eight and so they weren't even they weren't
even playing back then, Like that was so.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
That was a weird He like blanked out that that one.
I remember that, Like he just snapped. It was like,
all right, are you hello, coach you here right now?
Mentally because yeah, so again this is where eighty one
coaching high school girls might not be the best. Look,
just culture shift, things change, ideologies change, and at a
certain point somebody's gotta be like, all right, coach, it

(39:52):
might be time to come on.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Have a seat. Man, let's get some lemonade. We've got
a rock and chair for you.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I just sitting on that bench. Would it depends? Is
it comfortable or that I'm just asking. I'm not sure
if it depends,
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