Sports media personality Keith McPherson is in for Kelvin, and he and Rob debate whether Steve Kerr’s assertion that he never developed the Golden Warriors’ young core (James Wiseman, Jonathan Kuminga and Moses Moody) because ‘grown ups win championships’. Finally, the Odd Couple Crew discusses a bizarre – and sad – story to come of out a local college in Southern California. Plus, Boston Globe national NBA writer Gary Washburn swings by to discuss Jayson Tatum’s impending return to play, Jaylen Brown’s NBA MVP candidacy, and much more!
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coming up and of course shop talk. So our number
two is under way, keith Man. We got a really
good topic coming up here and Rob g is going
to get us started on. Steve Kerr had a big
(01:46):
interview in the Bay area and he said some things
that were pretty interested.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
That's right, I'll be here. Molly care and Rob no problem.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
There you go, except for she's a little bit cute.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
This she is I I'm not gonna laugh. Shout out
to Molly Kam. Yes, big news coming down in the Bay.
Were talking about this for a couple of weeks now
on the show. You've been saying, Rob, for a long time,
you didn't like the way Steve Kerr was handling Johnathan
kaminga right like. You didn't like what was going on,
yo yoing back and forth on the bench. Sometimes he
play something as he doesn't, so they eventually trade him.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
He goes to Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
In three games with the Hawks, he's averaging twenty one
and seven in twenty seven minutes a game. They're outscoring
opponents by almost thirty one points per one hundred possessions
when he plays. So, so far, so good for kaminga
in Atlanta. I'm not shocked, not shocked at all, which
led to most recently Steve Kerr appearing on the radio
ninety five to seven The Game with Mark Willard, who
(02:38):
shout out to Mark Willard giving us content two weeks
in a row.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
My first partner here at Fox Sports Radio, Mark Willard.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So, Mark Willard never missed his show in the Bay Area.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I know you don't.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I've never listened to it, so I've never sorry.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
You ain't gonna make it six years, five five years.
So Mark had Steve Kerr on his radio program yesterday
morning and he asked him, point blank, what do you
say to the fans in the Bay Area who points
a commander and say, see, you don't know how to
develop young talent.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Here's Steve kerr response.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
I remember when I got to Chicago, we had a
couple of drafts and I was in my tenth year,
ninth year, and I asked Phil Jackson, you know what
he thought of the guys we drafted. He said, well,
it won't matter for a few years. And I said,
I'll come he well, because grown up grown ups win championships.
And it's true, it's it's really hard to come in
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as a young player and be expected to have the
knowledge and skill and feel that you have to have
to be a championship NBA player. I would equate it
to just about anything else on earth. Tell me the
profession where the guy with the highest test scores of
Stanford can go and you know, be a CEO or
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you know, be a partner in a firm or so.
It just doesn't life doesn't work that way. And so
I think the when I when I think about any
frustration from our fans, it's probably just coming from this
idea that that young players should should get it right away.
It just doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That in so lame, and I'm not surprised to hear
that from Steve Kerr. I would say if I was
Mark Willard, I would have pushed back. Steve Kerr, you're
talking about Phil Jackson, who had Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen,
and yeah, I was winning championships. So yeah, they got
very low rated right draft picks that joined the Bulls. Okay,
(04:34):
all right, if you're going to do this, Keith and
say that adults win championships right, not rookie players, not
draft picks. Why the hell did you draft Wiseman or
Moody or Kaminga.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You should have.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Traded them right on draft night because they're not going
to help you win.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It's a cop out.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
How about the idea that Steve, why can't you admit
that you can't develop young players?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
When they got Weisman, they.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Were like, oh my god, they're gonna be good for
twenty years.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
They're gonna add them to what they already have, and
they weren't able to do anything. The more I look
at Steve Kerr's career coaching and how he's come off,
it makes me want to throw up in my mouth.
He's disrespectful to fans because he says to them when
he sits down in Stars and they paid four or
five hundred dollars, tough luck. I guess you know when
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you just have to suck it up and you bought
the tickets and you're stuck. Now he doesn't, He isn't
able to develop lottery picks.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And then he's an enabler.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
To Draymond Green, who he talks about adults in the room.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Draymond is the biggest baby out there. So what is it?
Steve Kerr, explain to me?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And thank god Mark Jackson got this thing started for
you when you picked up Steph.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And I don't go there with it. That's what it is, Keith.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
Everybody has played that game. How many rings does he
have with the with the Warriors? For how many rings
he had with the boy? He could put a He
can put a ring on every hand he's been with
Team USA. Are we talking about Steve Smith or Steve Kerr?
Put some respect on his name. He's a man, he's sixty.
He's right, Rob, he's right with what he said. Now,
I don't care about Wiseman or Kamingo. You gotta draft
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those guys because those are the guys you gotta draft.
They're rated in the draft where they are. You gotta
take them.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Trade them if they're not gonna hold pill. You don't
do that, and you're the Warriors. Are the Warriors? Trade
them for don't have to have room for.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
The guys you have Stephan Clay and Draymond and all
these role players like Iguadala and like listen, Steve Kurr
is right though, let's let's not get too far off
of what he said, because you don't like the man.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He said, grown up win championships. I have nothing against him.
I think that it's a lame excuse when you're drafted
just a lot of repicts, lot of repicks, and you're
saying you can't figure out a way to get lottery
picks in the mix with a team that's already winning
a cop out on you.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You're a lot of teams that they don't pan out.
They don't they don't all.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
Work in the situations in the cities and the teams
that they're in. And then he used Phil Jackson and
you didn't even take that, like he went back to
Phil Right and you said all this because he had
Jordan and Pivot. No, he had to coach those teams.
This is a guy that has won. This is a
guy that knows about winning. This is a guy that
knows about coaching, and he probably can identify when a
young guy can't get coached up, can't get developed, Not
(07:33):
gonna work, Not gonna waste my time with that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (07:35):
I rock with Steve Kerr. When I was a wee
little lad, I watched Steve Kerr hit that shot. You know,
I think Steve Kurry probably a lot more about this.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I covered him when he was playing for the Bulls,
and I got all that. But there's also where's his
responsibility as a coach.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He's coaching, He's one championship.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
They're gonna make a statue outside the building outside to
chase seven time.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
He's alleged.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
But Steph and Clay were all there and develop him
when he got there. He never got anybody but no,
but he They were young leadership, change the coaches, they
were young players winner, no, and and and it's a
cop out if you're listening to Steve Kerr, and he's
gonna put it off on the young kids that they
couldn't figure it out. You only win championships with grown
(08:20):
ups and all that kind of talk.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Championship over there as championship, only a championship or bust
over there. So we don't have time for all this.
We gotta you gotta be ready to play. You gotta
where are they now? They've got Jimmy, you know, one
of that man's got the you know, the knee and jams,
and Draymond's got the podcast and he figure out a
way to play kaminga.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Everybody knows the kid could play. Come on, Keith, you
know basketball. That was a fumble. He fumbled all of
these guys.
Speaker 8 (08:50):
He sees a funblas something we don't know behind the scene.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Everybody always don't play. If you told me it was
one guy, maybe I could buy.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh, it's behind the scenes, But it's every young guy
that they bring in.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
He let Jordan Poole get stole off on at practice.
There's stuff that we don't always see behind the scene.
And that's another one. He didn't even wasn't even man
enough to discipline. Draymond Green coaches this.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
I don't even know this.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Steve Kerr really, Steve Carr and Mark Willan let him
off the hook. Everybody have left them off the hook
because they won a couple of championships.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I'm not gonna bound down to Steve Kerr because we
got he done.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
What has he done?
Speaker 8 (09:38):
He's got five championships as a player, He's won four
as a coach. He's always been around winning. I think
he knows a thing or two about grown ups winning championships.
I gotta just go back to the quote grown ups
win championships. He ain't got no time for the kiddie stuff.
And then he even put it to every other type
of nobody should draft.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Nobody should draft young players, right.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
So to have to draft them, but you're gonna miss
more than you're gonna hit.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay, can we can?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I give you this, and then I want to hear
you stand on this or bow down, because how did
OKC win last year with a young team that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Wasn't took them? No, no, no, it's still a young team.
They were the youngest team in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
So this idea and only grown ups win a championship
is bull as bull poppy cock Boulder dash.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It ain't true.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
It's a different league now, and they ain't these guys are.
These guys are entering the league a little more ready
now and you know that's a little different comp That
was a one off.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Can they do it again? He said? Champion show plor No, no, no,
you're ready it again?
Speaker 8 (10:41):
No, it ain't about I was sticking with what the
man said. I was sticking with what the man said,
grown ups win championships. No Stanford kid can come out
and be CEO after right away.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It takes time. You gotta learn.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You got forage age last year. Okay, see ready, twenty
five years old, that was the average. That's not growing up.
Those are young kids now in this nil era. These
kids now are going to the G League, going back
to college.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It's a mess right now. I kind of understand what
they're veteran.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Gods off the bench Carusoe and Hartenstein. Come on, man,
Steve Kerr, here he is is passing the buck.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Don't blame me. I didn't do this young kid. They
don't know what they're doing. They's got a philosophy. He
got it.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Proud babies, that's what they are. Ask though it don't
be facts though. You need roman.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Feed the baby. I gotta change the baby. They don't
have time to practice. They don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Let me walk them, Let me put them in the
walker and the baby walker stroller. Come on, Steve Kerr,
these are lottery pick stop it.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I'm stopping, like Jordan said, f them kids. That's what
curR is on.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Mark Jackson gets the credit for developing the young guys.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
He hasn't have a ring or no, he didn't like
what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
He didn't develop anybody at Golden State that's the crime
of it. Those guys were developed before he had to
develop anybody too.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
There are some coaches like Kenny Atkinson who was looked
at as a developmental coach. I'm a Nets fan and
here's the other thing too, and they kicked him to
the curb when they had Katie Kyrie.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
They're like, all right, that's enough, we don't need a
developmental coach. No, here we go.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Mark Jackson did all the heavy lifting, put him in
the situation to get there. And then guess how Steve
Kerr's name really got built off the back of KD
because he couldn't do it. So that's why he's walking
around with those extra rings. Steve Kerr is also the
author of one of the greatest chokes in the history
of the NBA when they choked down a three to
one lead Steve Kerr zero. He doesn't develop players, he
(12:52):
doesn't respect fans, and he's a Draymond Green and abler.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm out on Steve Kerr.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
He's done nothing from me, and to get up there
and have a lame excuse in the Bay Area on
the radio is shameful.
Speaker 8 (13:06):
He's a champ. He knows a thing or two about winning.
He ain't rocking with them kids. Them kids don't get it.
Grown ups win championships the end.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm with him. I hear you. He's sixty, He's a man.
Come at me. I'm a man. I'm sixty. Steve Kurtrin
knows a thing or two about it. It is what
it is.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
He's gonna try and win again, but not with some
young guys coming in the NBA that don't get it.
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picks and all that other nonsense.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Keith is with Steve Kerr. I'm down on Steve Kerr.
Where are you? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox?
Let's go to the phones. Keith.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We got tyro tyron in Tennessee. You're in the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (16:36):
How are you ah doing?
Speaker 12 (16:38):
Good man? Always a pleasure to be on with you.
Let me just say this, man, Steve, he's a great coach.
For man, it's a disgrace he is. He is hand
on talent. He's lottery picks. The last five six years
with Wiseman and with Kaminica, well no, I know Kamina
could have added something to go to say this nowhere
around it with a hazing Klein, with a haging Raymond
(17:00):
could have. He could have brought something, maybe extended, maybe
made you contenders. Wislin was a complete busser. That was
a top three tops. Don't think it's something for the first,
for the fact that he's had two many thinks the
last thought it years and the god man me say
it for him has not developed him. One's not even
in the land. You know what.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Don't forget but don't forget Moody. He's had three lottery pictsoy.
Speaker 12 (17:21):
Why that's a good point. Let me say this about
this man, Man Johnson doesn't get the credit he desent us.
He may joy mine staff and claim in the gold
Man rock them, he an't like them. Don would have
done a busy were Johnson never got a chance for
nobody Winson. Nobody knows he's got a user. You don't
all gotta wonder the next ship with him and Fauch
(17:42):
and you know what happen? Mind if mat Justin has
got a fair chance, one more tummas, let me say
something cam meam would have been here to talk about
Mike Justin want made the mistakes?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Won't any clever, no doubt man, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I love the passion there. I love it him in Queens.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tim,
what's up?
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Brawl?
Speaker 13 (18:06):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Kids?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
How are you?
Speaker 14 (18:09):
I'm just wanted to say you know, Rob, I agree
with you one hundred percent. He's current overrated. I've been
a wordst fans in high school and every every pick
he just throw them away. Don't don't allow them to
make mistakes, grow with the game, none of that. As
soon as they make a mistake, he pull them out
the game. How do you expect the lottery fixed the
(18:31):
Broye he with a young player to bro like that,
You can't.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
That's not how you coach basketball. Eric sposure the same way.
That's why the Heat is stuck in that same playing spot.
The Warriors are the same thing with They need these
old coaches. Man, sometimes they need to get with the arm.
Speaker 14 (18:47):
Develop your young players, let them play, let them.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Do you tell them you can't use an athletic fixed
non wing.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Thank you don't even make sense. It makes no sense. Tim.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
The whole old injury, all injury, old injury.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Poone players on the Warriors, come on, man, terrible good
Thank you, Jim, appreciate it. Andre in Massachusetts, you're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
What's up, Drake, what's going on?
Speaker 13 (19:13):
Thanks for taking the call. Listen, Steve Kerr, There's no
doubt about it that he was gifted a championship in
twenty fifteen, right, that was Mark Jackson's crew. He is
the one that came, you know, coin the Splash Brothers.
He's the one that stand down, man down, gave them
the mocks, he gave them the confidence, you know. And
Steve Curry just kind of took that team and pushed
them over the finish line. So UH can't give him
(19:34):
credit for the for the first championship the last championship.
I do feel there Steve Kerr did earn his stripes
on the last championship, all.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Right, But with Dre you know basketball three lottery picks,
you don't have any of those guys helping me Warriors.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I mean that that makes the three lottery picks. There
are a lottery, it's the it's a lot of reas.
But that means that a guaranteed, I know. But they're
the best of the best. That's why they're in the line.
They're the top one championships. Let me guess Katie is
the reason they wont him. Kde won those two.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
L respect to Mark Jackson, but how come nobody else
let him go win him a championship?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Nobody else hired develop and bring he's.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Been blackballed out of the NBA. I mean, whether people
want to acknowledge it or not, it ain't it is,
but that's the fact. So, uh, that's why by Jacks
Curve for help man to go do your googles on
Steve Kerr's impact on you.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Okay, yeah, okay, I'm.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Just throwing in my last little bit of Steve Kerr.
I'm getting cooked. No, I can't win this battle the callers,
rob the chat. I can't win this battle defender Steve Kerr.
But I feel how I feel.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's all good? All right?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Coming up next, Gary Washburn from the Boston Globe, of course,
the national NBA writer.
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us right now. Like we told you from the Boston Globe.
He's a national NBA writer. It's Gary Washburn. Gary, are
you there?
Speaker 15 (21:33):
I am here, guys.
Speaker 11 (21:34):
How you doing good?
Speaker 8 (21:35):
Gary?
Speaker 12 (21:35):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Buddy good?
Speaker 12 (21:37):
Rob?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Good to see you.
Speaker 12 (21:38):
A couple of weeks ago, Yes, here with the All
Star Game.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Plenty of seats available, but we were out there. It
was not pretty.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I mean it was unbelievable how many empty seats we
were there. All Star Saturday night not a pretty picture.
Speaker 15 (21:54):
But All Stars Saturday it was like All Stars Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
That's true.
Speaker 15 (21:58):
With early so I guess everybody was at the beach.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It was really bad. I'm gonna just jump in here right.
Let's start off for here. Obviously the news of the
day with Jason Tatum on his way back. Man, they've
held the ship together. Talk about Jason Tatum and I'd
take him at eighty percent.
Speaker 15 (22:16):
Yeah, I mean he has worked seriously the last ten months. Obviously,
he's you know documented that and you know you can
watch the clips, and he has been close to being
back over the last few weeks and he said he
was going to come back at home, and it seems
like the sixth is the perfect date before a road trip,
(22:38):
and you know they it gives him about twenty games
to acclimate him back into the offense, figure out how
to play with certain guys he's literally never played with,
how to play with certain guys that have new roles
this year, and how to blend as well as possible
with Jalen Brown, who has obviously taken over as kind
of like the primary scores. So there's some work to
(22:59):
be done. But I think for a Celtic organization that
thought this year might be just as people call it,
a gap year or rebuild or kind of retool year
to get ready for next year, that's obviously not the
case anymore.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Gary, Can you speak about what we can expect. I
know he's not a role player, but he's got to
play a role right With about a month and a
half until the playoffs, this is a ramp up. Can
we expect a pitch count of minutes restriction? Like, what
do you expect to see just in this first game
or these first couple games out of him?
Speaker 15 (23:31):
I definitely expect to see a minute restriction and probably
you know, a game offer two, no back to backs.
Just monitoring his progress, there's nothing that can compare to
basketball shape. So he's got to take probably five to
ten games of getting the premium basketball shape to get
his win back. So tomorrow is just going to be
the first step in a long road to get himself
(23:53):
ready for basically a playoff series. That's what you're trying
to do. You're trying to lock down the number two
seed in Boston, but you're they're also trying to get
ready and get your lineup and get everything set for
that first round playoff series. Because now this team has
got to, you know, worry about who they're going to play,
and it's a certainly they're likely going to be in
the playoffs and they playing. Maybe there was some projections
(24:16):
for playing at the beginning of the season, but now
they got a chance to get that second seat. So
there's some work to be done. But I think that
the Celtics are encouraged by what they've seen from catum
and practice and they'll bring them along slowly.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Our guest is Gary Washburn, of course, one of the
best NBA writers out there. Boston Globe National NBA writer,
and I do want to ask you about Jalen Brown
and his season that he's had.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
He's got to get some consideration for MVP.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Most people rode off the Celtics once Tatum was injured
last year in the playoffs, that this.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Would be, you know, a throwaway year. And here we are.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
The Pistons have had this great year that everybody's raving about,
and the Celtics are only five games out with twenty
to play. I mean, I'm not saying they're going to
get the number one seed, but this is an incredible
season for.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Jalen Brown and the Celtics. Does he get some consideration?
Speaker 15 (25:08):
Yeah, Robert, mean you have to think he does. I
mean you're looking at the other candidates obviously jo Kis
Kate Cunningham in Detroit and SGA in Oklahoma City, and
you know, you maybe throwing a Jalen Brunson. But but
to me, he's got to be He's got to get
his share first place votes this team. Not much was
(25:29):
expected from this team. As you said, Tatum is out.
Then remember they also uh traded Christaps for Zingis let out,
Horford go traded through Holiday to Portland. So they cleaned house.
They got rid of their high salary players, they got
rid a lot of veterans. They relying on a lot
of younger guys, Debius Cada, Jordan Walsh, Ugo Gonzalez, you know,
(25:51):
guys that are not household names. And Jalen's kind of
taking these guys and put them on their back, and
then he's had a lot of help. But he's also
been one of those guys that you could rely on
for thirty points a night and maybe eight nine rebounds,
and he's taking care of the ball and kind of
you know, showing up some of his weaknesses in the past.
So you gotta think that he will be get some
(26:14):
real serious MVP consideration considering how well they've played with
him as that primary option.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
The last time we saw Tatum on the floor was
against the Knicks. I'm here in New York, they're out
there in LA and there's a lot of conversation always
Knicks versus Celtics. Jalen Brown has been vocal about Knicks
fans and like, you know, how excited would you be
to see a rematch? Right because there's so much unknown
about what would have happened. How excited would you be
to see the rematch play out. If there's somehow we
(26:42):
can get Celtics versus Nicks this year to run it
back from last year after the Knicks kind of stole
that one from him.
Speaker 15 (26:50):
Yeah, I mean, obviously it's not that outrageous. If the
Celtics kid number two and the Knicks kid number three,
and they both win their first round series, then they
face each other, right, so this could be a potential
second round series, and I think the Celtics would you
would like to think would be more prepared. They gave
away basically Games one and two in Boston and kind
of handed the series to the Knicks, and the Knicks
(27:12):
were the better team. Tom Thibodeaux obviously no longer to
coach in New York. Key out coach so Wazoo in
that series and they outplayed the Celtics. So the Celtics
obviously are looking back at the Knicks and they want
to get back. So I think that would be obviously
one of the more entertaining series Boston and New York
going at it. You know, Robb's been to a bunch
of those games. Yes, you know, they don't like you.
(27:36):
None of those teams like each other. So I think
it would be a great series. So yeah, let's hope
for that.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I want to ask you about the Pistons for the
for the great season that they've had thus far. The
one thing that scares me is that three point shooting.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Gary.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I mean, they're in the bottom third. They struggle with
the shots from the perimeter.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Can can that?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Can they overcome that and really make a playoff run?
Will let come to bite you, you know at some
point when you play playoff basketball.
Speaker 15 (28:05):
Yeah, I think they can overcome that. I meaning they
got Kevin Herder from the Bulls, they got Duncan Robertson,
They got guys who can shoot. Tobias Harris. Kate is
a better three point shoot than these shows. Like that's
the disappointing part about Kate. The only thing that's kind
of led is Kate. Every time I seen him play
themselves and he hits them threes, but they you know,
his percentage is not that high. But they have shooters.
(28:28):
But I just think if they play that physical brand
of basketball, that jav bickersaff defensive style, that bad boys,
they can beat anybody. I think that's a concern. If
you know, they play the right kind of defensive team
who kind of locks down and kind of can match
them in the paint. But I don't know, Bob, if
there's a team that can match up with Beef Stu
(28:50):
and Jalen Durham. I mean, Jalen duran is a dude
you don't want to see in a dark gallery. I
mean that dude's real Detroit. I mean the same thing
with Beef Stue. I mean, they have a big, physical
team and if they get a hold of you, you know, dephysically,
it's gonna it's gonna be a cat fight. So to me,
I do think it's a concern, but I also think
(29:12):
the Pistons can overcome it.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
Question for you after last night's game, I was in
here watching it, but I was live on air SGA
and Jalen Brunton all to talk about flopping and drawing
fouls and a different whistle for SGA, and then Mike
Brown saying, oh yeah, he's a tough cover.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Do you expect the league to do anything?
Speaker 8 (29:31):
I really feel like there's nothing they could do but
down the stretching into the playoffs. Do you think there's
gonna be more of an emphasis on flopping and how
it's called how fouls are called down the stretch because
of this.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Well, also, I think that this is what STA does.
Speaker 15 (29:45):
I mean, he gets to the free throw line. I mean,
here's the reason why he scored twenty points for upteam
consecutive games. So he gets to the free throw line.
That's what he does.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
He he knows how to contort his body to draw contacts.
Speaker 15 (29:58):
He knows how to yell. You know, God, I mean,
they didn't do that back in the day, Rob They
didn't jail when they took a shot.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
You know, they did not, my god, not do that now.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Ah, you know, it's like what happened to you?
Speaker 10 (30:10):
Man?
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Like get up?
Speaker 12 (30:11):
You know he's like.
Speaker 15 (30:12):
Friday ain't even went over there?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
What you're doing?
Speaker 12 (30:15):
Like like like what you I mean?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Guys are screaming for the because they're trying to, you know,
get bring the kitchen to the contact. That's what SGJ
has mastered, what the game has become, and.
Speaker 15 (30:27):
I cannot blame him for that. But the Brunton is
the same way Brunson uses that little shifty moves. I mean,
I think bruns is an amazing player for his size
to what he brings the table. But One of the
things that he brings is.
Speaker 12 (30:40):
I will draw found, I will fall on the ground.
Speaker 15 (30:43):
If you touch me, I will collapse.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
But you know what crazy, though, Gary, is they don't
give James Harden any of that in the postseason. You know,
like the difference between when he played regular season to
postseason and and it altered how he's played, you know
what I mean, Like he was looking for call that
he never would get. It's just crazy to me that
you would change post regular season of postseason.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
But I think you're right. Sga has done it, and
so is Brunson, and that's how it is. But Gary,
thank you so much, my man. We always appreciate your knowledge.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 15 (31:16):
Hey, good to be with you, guys.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Thank you all right.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Gary Washburn, Boston Globe National NBA writer, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
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Speaker 2 (32:30):
Let's do it.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Well, that's right, it is shop talk here in the
OC coup. Let's same when we talk about something happen
outside of the world of sports.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
This week.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
We're cheating a little bit because this story is heavy
and we had to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
It's right.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
It has a sports tie in.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Kevin Mays you might have know who he is, former
Cal State Bakersfield men's basketball player and temporary assistant coach
is the key thing here. Guys is currently awaiting trial
because he is alleged, while he was coaching as a
temporary assistant coach, to have been pimping across four separate
(33:11):
states and is currently facing a rap sheet of eleven
different criminal and misdemeanor charges, including possession of automatic firearms,
possession of methamphetamine, intend to sell, possession of more than
six hundred images of child pornography.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Oh my, it is all bad all the time, guys.
Just your thoughts on this story, this bizarre and depressing story.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Keith, you want to start this one. Yeah, that took
a turn. That's not good.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
It's not something that you can laugh off or make
light of. He's going to jail, and you just, you know,
pray for the people affected. And it's a good thing
that they found it out. But it's crazy. People live
double lives and they could be amongst us and you
don't know what they're doing in the dark, but it
comes to light, comes to light.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And when you hear the story, it's just mind boggling,
you know, because on one hand, you're this basketball coach
and you're around youth, you know, and molding and shaping, uh,
the youth of tomorrow, right, and the youth of today,
I should say, And then you have this dark side,
like you're a pimp on your free time.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Really crazy, Alex you well, you know, being a former
pimp myself. Robin, No, I'm just saying pimpin ain't easy.
But I'll say this, it really is a big testament
to say that people's backgrounds do matter, and especially your history,
because a lot of the time we like to say
people can be reformed, people can change. We don't want
to judge people off their past. But I think there's
(34:51):
also something that has to be said about when you're
coaching youth or children or doing something in some kind
of an authoritive figure. This goes to police officers, et cetera.
I've always had a gripe that things that are so
important are less talked about, or encouraged or actually restrained upon. So,
for example, Rob, did you know like becoming a barber
is harder than becoming a police officer? Like these kind
of things, I question it. So if you're gonna be
(35:13):
a coach for a team, maybe check your background a
little bit, just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
It'll be something I hear you about that. Martin Wiss,
what about you? Just thoughts on this. It's just a
bizarre story. It's shameful.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I uh, you guys said a lot.
Speaker 16 (35:29):
My thoughts go to the person who hired him as
a temporary head coach. What a decision. It's like, how
do you like, first of all, what was what was
a temporary basis? What was the status in which you
have a temporary coach in general? Right, Like it's not
really a job that you volunteer for that. I read
the story too. The guy was like committing crimes and
(35:50):
rental cars that he had rented from this like on
his work account.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
It's like, but there's somebody not minding the store, like
I would like, serious, you have to go back and
go what was the investigation into his background?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
When they hire people, you know, like like you have
to vet people to find out something Marre, did he
have a prior a rust record or something that that I.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Did not see. No, I mean, I'm not sure. I
just you know, I read the story. The details are insane.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
They are rob g I think that's primarily the problem
is there was no background check of any kind of stuff.
I think they said, hey, we know him from our
basketball program. We played for us, but we like him,
We're going to bring him on. We got him as
like a player development assistant to start off with, and
so on and so forth. And to think, when I
just read the headline, I said, hey, college basketball coach
(36:40):
was pimping across four states. My first thought was, hey,
let's have fun with this, like, Hey, what's the worst
crime that you'd be willing to overlook to be a
coach for, like a youth team or a high school
team or whatever. And then as you keep reading the story,
you're like, well, this is not funny at all. There's
nothing there's nothing I can do to make this a
lighthearted segment.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
And so I know, whenever you see the word pimping it,
you know what I mean, you want to be like
because it.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Was such a bizarre headline, and that's the headline. And
then I think if they would have put in the
headline temporary coach is also being charged with six hundred
counts of chop pornography, then that's a totally different conversation
going under the jail. Oh yeah, just I'm I wouldn't
be surprised, and we got a little bit of time here.
I would not be surprised if he ends up being
(37:25):
guilty whatever. But if this basketball program doesn't exist in
like two years.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I'll tell you this, whoever hired them and those people,
they're going to feel the raft as well because they're
already already done.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Ye article, Because cal State Bakerfield is not exactly a
hotbed for basketball, so they might get at
Speaker 1 (37:46):
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two is under way, keith Man. We got a really
good topic coming up here and Rob g is going
to get us started on. Steve Kerr had a big
(01:46):
interview in the Bay area and he said some things
that were pretty interested.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
That's right, I'll be here. Molly care and Rob no problem.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
There you go, except for she's a little bit cute.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
This she is I I'm not gonna laugh. Shout out
to Molly Kam. Yes, big news coming down in the Bay.
Were talking about this for a couple of weeks now
on the show. You've been saying, Rob, for a long time,
you didn't like the way Steve Kerr was handling Johnathan
kaminga right like. You didn't like what was going on,
yo yoing back and forth on the bench. Sometimes he
play something as he doesn't, so they eventually trade him.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
He goes to Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
In three games with the Hawks, he's averaging twenty one
and seven in twenty seven minutes a game. They're outscoring
opponents by almost thirty one points per one hundred possessions
when he plays. So, so far, so good for kaminga
in Atlanta. I'm not shocked, not shocked at all, which
led to most recently Steve Kerr appearing on the radio
ninety five to seven The Game with Mark Willard, who
(02:38):
shout out to Mark Willard giving us content two weeks
in a row.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
My first partner here at Fox Sports Radio, Mark Willard.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So, Mark Willard never missed his show in the Bay Area.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I know you don't.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I've never listened to it, so I've never sorry.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
You ain't gonna make it six years, five five years.
So Mark had Steve Kerr on his radio program yesterday
morning and he asked him, point blank, what do you
say to the fans in the Bay Area who points
a commander and say, see, you don't know how to
develop young talent.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Here's Steve kerr response.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
I remember when I got to Chicago, we had a
couple of drafts and I was in my tenth year,
ninth year, and I asked Phil Jackson, you know what
he thought of the guys we drafted. He said, well,
it won't matter for a few years. And I said,
I'll come he well, because grown up grown ups win championships.
And it's true, it's it's really hard to come in
(03:32):
as a young player and be expected to have the
knowledge and skill and feel that you have to have
to be a championship NBA player. I would equate it
to just about anything else on earth. Tell me the
profession where the guy with the highest test scores of
Stanford can go and you know, be a CEO or
(03:53):
you know, be a partner in a firm or so.
It just doesn't life doesn't work that way. And so
I think the when I when I think about any
frustration from our fans, it's probably just coming from this
idea that that young players should should get it right away.
It just doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That in so lame, and I'm not surprised to hear
that from Steve Kerr. I would say if I was
Mark Willard, I would have pushed back. Steve Kerr, you're
talking about Phil Jackson, who had Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen,
and yeah, I was winning championships. So yeah, they got
very low rated right draft picks that joined the Bulls. Okay,
(04:34):
all right, if you're going to do this, Keith and
say that adults win championships right, not rookie players, not
draft picks. Why the hell did you draft Wiseman or
Moody or Kaminga.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You should have.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Traded them right on draft night because they're not going
to help you win.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It's a cop out.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
How about the idea that Steve, why can't you admit
that you can't develop young players?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
When they got Weisman, they.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Were like, oh my god, they're gonna be good for
twenty years.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
They're gonna add them to what they already have, and
they weren't able to do anything. The more I look
at Steve Kerr's career coaching and how he's come off,
it makes me want to throw up in my mouth.
He's disrespectful to fans because he says to them when
he sits down in Stars and they paid four or
five hundred dollars, tough luck. I guess you know when
(05:33):
you just have to suck it up and you bought
the tickets and you're stuck. Now he doesn't, He isn't
able to develop lottery picks.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And then he's an enabler.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
To Draymond Green, who he talks about adults in the room.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Draymond is the biggest baby out there. So what is it?
Steve Kerr, explain to me?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And thank god Mark Jackson got this thing started for
you when you picked up Steph.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And I don't go there with it. That's what it is, Keith.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
Everybody has played that game. How many rings does he
have with the with the Warriors? For how many rings
he had with the boy? He could put a He
can put a ring on every hand he's been with
Team USA. Are we talking about Steve Smith or Steve Kerr?
Put some respect on his name. He's a man, he's sixty.
He's right, Rob, he's right with what he said. Now,
I don't care about Wiseman or Kamingo. You gotta draft
(06:25):
those guys because those are the guys you gotta draft.
They're rated in the draft where they are. You gotta
take them.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Trade them if they're not gonna hold pill. You don't
do that, and you're the Warriors. Are the Warriors? Trade
them for don't have to have room for.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
The guys you have Stephan Clay and Draymond and all
these role players like Iguadala and like listen, Steve Kurr
is right though, let's let's not get too far off
of what he said, because you don't like the man.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He said, grown up win championships. I have nothing against him.
I think that it's a lame excuse when you're drafted
just a lot of repicts, lot of repicks, and you're
saying you can't figure out a way to get lottery
picks in the mix with a team that's already winning
a cop out on you.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You're a lot of teams that they don't pan out.
They don't they don't all.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
Work in the situations in the cities and the teams
that they're in. And then he used Phil Jackson and
you didn't even take that, like he went back to
Phil Right and you said all this because he had
Jordan and Pivot. No, he had to coach those teams.
This is a guy that has won. This is a
guy that knows about winning. This is a guy that
knows about coaching, and he probably can identify when a
young guy can't get coached up, can't get developed, Not
(07:33):
gonna work, Not gonna waste my time with that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (07:35):
I rock with Steve Kerr. When I was a wee
little lad, I watched Steve Kerr hit that shot. You know,
I think Steve Kurry probably a lot more about this.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I covered him when he was playing for the Bulls,
and I got all that. But there's also where's his
responsibility as a coach.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He's coaching, He's one championship.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
They're gonna make a statue outside the building outside to
chase seven time.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
He's alleged.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
But Steph and Clay were all there and develop him
when he got there. He never got anybody but no,
but he They were young leadership, change the coaches, they
were young players winner, no, and and and it's a
cop out if you're listening to Steve Kerr, and he's
gonna put it off on the young kids that they
couldn't figure it out. You only win championships with grown
(08:20):
ups and all that kind of talk.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Championship over there as championship, only a championship or bust
over there. So we don't have time for all this.
We gotta you gotta be ready to play. You gotta
where are they now? They've got Jimmy, you know, one
of that man's got the you know, the knee and jams,
and Draymond's got the podcast and he figure out a
way to play kaminga.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Everybody knows the kid could play. Come on, Keith, you
know basketball. That was a fumble. He fumbled all of
these guys.
Speaker 8 (08:50):
He sees a funblas something we don't know behind the scene.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Everybody always don't play. If you told me it was
one guy, maybe I could buy.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh, it's behind the scenes, But it's every young guy
that they bring in.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
He let Jordan Poole get stole off on at practice.
There's stuff that we don't always see behind the scene.
And that's another one. He didn't even wasn't even man
enough to discipline. Draymond Green coaches this.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
I don't even know this.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Steve Kerr really, Steve Carr and Mark Willan let him
off the hook. Everybody have left them off the hook
because they won a couple of championships.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I'm not gonna bound down to Steve Kerr because we
got he done.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
What has he done?
Speaker 8 (09:38):
He's got five championships as a player, He's won four
as a coach. He's always been around winning. I think
he knows a thing or two about grown ups winning championships.
I gotta just go back to the quote grown ups
win championships. He ain't got no time for the kiddie stuff.
And then he even put it to every other type
of nobody should draft.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Nobody should draft young players, right.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
So to have to draft them, but you're gonna miss
more than you're gonna hit.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay, can we can?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I give you this, and then I want to hear
you stand on this or bow down, because how did
OKC win last year with a young team that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Wasn't took them? No, no, no, it's still a young team.
They were the youngest team in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
So this idea and only grown ups win a championship
is bull as bull poppy cock Boulder dash.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It ain't true.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
It's a different league now, and they ain't these guys are.
These guys are entering the league a little more ready
now and you know that's a little different comp That
was a one off.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Can they do it again? He said? Champion show plor No, no, no,
you're ready it again?
Speaker 8 (10:41):
No, it ain't about I was sticking with what the
man said. I was sticking with what the man said,
grown ups win championships. No Stanford kid can come out
and be CEO after right away.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It takes time. You gotta learn.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You got forage age last year. Okay, see ready, twenty
five years old, that was the average. That's not growing up.
Those are young kids now in this nil era. These
kids now are going to the G League, going back
to college.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It's a mess right now. I kind of understand what
they're veteran.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Gods off the bench Carusoe and Hartenstein. Come on, man,
Steve Kerr, here he is is passing the buck.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Don't blame me. I didn't do this young kid. They
don't know what they're doing. They's got a philosophy. He
got it.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Proud babies, that's what they are. Ask though it don't
be facts though. You need roman.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Feed the baby. I gotta change the baby. They don't
have time to practice. They don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Let me walk them, Let me put them in the
walker and the baby walker stroller. Come on, Steve Kerr,
these are lottery pick stop it.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I'm stopping, like Jordan said, f them kids. That's what
curR is on.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Mark Jackson gets the credit for developing the young guys.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
He hasn't have a ring or no, he didn't like
what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
He didn't develop anybody at Golden State that's the crime
of it. Those guys were developed before he had to
develop anybody too.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
There are some coaches like Kenny Atkinson who was looked
at as a developmental coach. I'm a Nets fan and
here's the other thing too, and they kicked him to
the curb when they had Katie Kyrie.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
They're like, all right, that's enough, we don't need a
developmental coach. No, here we go.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Mark Jackson did all the heavy lifting, put him in
the situation to get there. And then guess how Steve
Kerr's name really got built off the back of KD
because he couldn't do it. So that's why he's walking
around with those extra rings. Steve Kerr is also the
author of one of the greatest chokes in the history
of the NBA when they choked down a three to
one lead Steve Kerr zero. He doesn't develop players, he
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doesn't respect fans, and he's a Draymond Green and abler.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm out on Steve Kerr.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
He's done nothing from me, and to get up there
and have a lame excuse in the Bay Area on
the radio is shameful.
Speaker 8 (13:06):
He's a champ. He knows a thing or two about winning.
He ain't rocking with them kids. Them kids don't get it.
Grown ups win championships the end.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm with him. I hear you. He's sixty, He's a man.
Come at me. I'm a man. I'm sixty. Steve Kurtrin
knows a thing or two about it. It is what
it is.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
He's gonna try and win again, but not with some
young guys coming in the NBA that don't get it.
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picks and all that other nonsense.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Keith is with Steve Kerr. I'm down on Steve Kerr.
Where are you? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox?
Let's go to the phones. Keith.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We got tyro tyron in Tennessee. You're in the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (16:36):
How are you ah doing?
Speaker 12 (16:38):
Good man? Always a pleasure to be on with you.
Let me just say this, man, Steve, he's a great coach.
For man, it's a disgrace he is. He is hand
on talent. He's lottery picks. The last five six years
with Wiseman and with Kaminica, well no, I know Kamina
could have added something to go to say this nowhere
around it with a hazing Klein, with a haging Raymond
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could have. He could have brought something, maybe extended, maybe
made you contenders. Wislin was a complete busser. That was
a top three tops. Don't think it's something for the first,
for the fact that he's had two many thinks the
last thought it years and the god man me say
it for him has not developed him. One's not even
in the land. You know what.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Don't forget but don't forget Moody. He's had three lottery pictsoy.
Speaker 12 (17:21):
Why that's a good point. Let me say this about
this man, Man Johnson doesn't get the credit he desent us.
He may joy mine staff and claim in the gold
Man rock them, he an't like them. Don would have
done a busy were Johnson never got a chance for
nobody Winson. Nobody knows he's got a user. You don't
all gotta wonder the next ship with him and Fauch
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and you know what happen? Mind if mat Justin has
got a fair chance, one more tummas, let me say
something cam meam would have been here to talk about
Mike Justin want made the mistakes?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Won't any clever, no doubt man, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I love the passion there. I love it him in Queens.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tim,
what's up?
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Brawl?
Speaker 13 (18:06):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Kids?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
How are you?
Speaker 14 (18:09):
I'm just wanted to say you know, Rob, I agree
with you one hundred percent. He's current overrated. I've been
a wordst fans in high school and every every pick
he just throw them away. Don't don't allow them to
make mistakes, grow with the game, none of that. As
soon as they make a mistake, he pull them out
the game. How do you expect the lottery fixed the
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Broye he with a young player to bro like that,
You can't.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
That's not how you coach basketball. Eric sposure the same way.
That's why the Heat is stuck in that same playing spot.
The Warriors are the same thing with They need these
old coaches. Man, sometimes they need to get with the arm.
Speaker 14 (18:47):
Develop your young players, let them play, let them.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Do you tell them you can't use an athletic fixed
non wing.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Thank you don't even make sense. It makes no sense. Tim.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
The whole old injury, all injury, old injury.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Poone players on the Warriors, come on, man, terrible good
Thank you, Jim, appreciate it. Andre in Massachusetts, you're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
What's up, Drake, what's going on?
Speaker 13 (19:13):
Thanks for taking the call. Listen, Steve Kerr, There's no
doubt about it that he was gifted a championship in
twenty fifteen, right, that was Mark Jackson's crew. He is
the one that came, you know, coin the Splash Brothers.
He's the one that stand down, man down, gave them
the mocks, he gave them the confidence, you know. And
Steve Curry just kind of took that team and pushed
them over the finish line. So UH can't give him
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credit for the for the first championship the last championship.
I do feel there Steve Kerr did earn his stripes
on the last championship, all.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Right, But with Dre you know basketball three lottery picks,
you don't have any of those guys helping me Warriors.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I mean that that makes the three lottery picks. There
are a lottery, it's the it's a lot of reas.
But that means that a guaranteed, I know. But they're
the best of the best. That's why they're in the line.
They're the top one championships. Let me guess Katie is
the reason they wont him. Kde won those two.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
L respect to Mark Jackson, but how come nobody else
let him go win him a championship?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Nobody else hired develop and bring he's.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Been blackballed out of the NBA. I mean, whether people
want to acknowledge it or not, it ain't it is,
but that's the fact. So, uh, that's why by Jacks
Curve for help man to go do your googles on
Steve Kerr's impact on you.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Okay, yeah, okay, I'm.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Just throwing in my last little bit of Steve Kerr.
I'm getting cooked. No, I can't win this battle the callers,
rob the chat. I can't win this battle defender Steve Kerr.
But I feel how I feel.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's all good? All right?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
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the national NBA writer.
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us right now. Like we told you from the Boston Globe.
He's a national NBA writer. It's Gary Washburn. Gary, are
you there?
Speaker 15 (21:33):
I am here, guys.
Speaker 11 (21:34):
How you doing good?
Speaker 8 (21:35):
Gary?
Speaker 12 (21:35):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Buddy good?
Speaker 12 (21:37):
Rob?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Good to see you.
Speaker 12 (21:38):
A couple of weeks ago, Yes, here with the All
Star Game.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Plenty of seats available, but we were out there. It
was not pretty.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I mean it was unbelievable how many empty seats we
were there. All Star Saturday night not a pretty picture.
Speaker 15 (21:54):
But All Stars Saturday it was like All Stars Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
That's true.
Speaker 15 (21:58):
With early so I guess everybody was at the beach.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It was really bad. I'm gonna just jump in here right.
Let's start off for here. Obviously the news of the
day with Jason Tatum on his way back. Man, they've
held the ship together. Talk about Jason Tatum and I'd
take him at eighty percent.
Speaker 15 (22:16):
Yeah, I mean he has worked seriously the last ten months. Obviously,
he's you know documented that and you know you can
watch the clips, and he has been close to being
back over the last few weeks and he said he
was going to come back at home, and it seems
like the sixth is the perfect date before a road trip,
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and you know they it gives him about twenty games
to acclimate him back into the offense, figure out how
to play with certain guys he's literally never played with,
how to play with certain guys that have new roles
this year, and how to blend as well as possible
with Jalen Brown, who has obviously taken over as kind
of like the primary scores. So there's some work to
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be done. But I think for a Celtic organization that
thought this year might be just as people call it,
a gap year or rebuild or kind of retool year
to get ready for next year, that's obviously not the
case anymore.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Gary, Can you speak about what we can expect. I
know he's not a role player, but he's got to
play a role right With about a month and a
half until the playoffs, this is a ramp up. Can
we expect a pitch count of minutes restriction? Like, what
do you expect to see just in this first game
or these first couple games out of him?
Speaker 15 (23:31):
I definitely expect to see a minute restriction and probably
you know, a game offer two, no back to backs.
Just monitoring his progress, there's nothing that can compare to
basketball shape. So he's got to take probably five to
ten games of getting the premium basketball shape to get
his win back. So tomorrow is just going to be
the first step in a long road to get himself
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ready for basically a playoff series. That's what you're trying
to do. You're trying to lock down the number two
seed in Boston, but you're they're also trying to get
ready and get your lineup and get everything set for
that first round playoff series. Because now this team has
got to, you know, worry about who they're going to play,
and it's a certainly they're likely going to be in
the playoffs and they playing. Maybe there was some projections
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for playing at the beginning of the season, but now
they got a chance to get that second seat. So
there's some work to be done. But I think that
the Celtics are encouraged by what they've seen from catum
and practice and they'll bring them along slowly.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Our guest is Gary Washburn, of course, one of the
best NBA writers out there. Boston Globe National NBA writer,
and I do want to ask you about Jalen Brown
and his season that he's had.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
He's got to get some consideration for MVP.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Most people rode off the Celtics once Tatum was injured
last year in the playoffs, that this.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Would be, you know, a throwaway year. And here we are.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
The Pistons have had this great year that everybody's raving about,
and the Celtics are only five games out with twenty
to play. I mean, I'm not saying they're going to
get the number one seed, but this is an incredible
season for.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Jalen Brown and the Celtics. Does he get some consideration?
Speaker 15 (25:08):
Yeah, Robert, mean you have to think he does. I
mean you're looking at the other candidates obviously jo Kis
Kate Cunningham in Detroit and SGA in Oklahoma City, and
you know, you maybe throwing a Jalen Brunson. But but
to me, he's got to be He's got to get
his share first place votes this team. Not much was
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expected from this team. As you said, Tatum is out.
Then remember they also uh traded Christaps for Zingis let out,
Horford go traded through Holiday to Portland. So they cleaned house.
They got rid of their high salary players, they got
rid a lot of veterans. They relying on a lot
of younger guys, Debius Cada, Jordan Walsh, Ugo Gonzalez, you know,
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guys that are not household names. And Jalen's kind of
taking these guys and put them on their back, and
then he's had a lot of help. But he's also
been one of those guys that you could rely on
for thirty points a night and maybe eight nine rebounds,
and he's taking care of the ball and kind of
you know, showing up some of his weaknesses in the past.
So you gotta think that he will be get some
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real serious MVP consideration considering how well they've played with
him as that primary option.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
The last time we saw Tatum on the floor was
against the Knicks. I'm here in New York, they're out
there in LA and there's a lot of conversation always
Knicks versus Celtics. Jalen Brown has been vocal about Knicks
fans and like, you know, how excited would you be
to see a rematch? Right because there's so much unknown
about what would have happened. How excited would you be
to see the rematch play out. If there's somehow we
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can get Celtics versus Nicks this year to run it
back from last year after the Knicks kind of stole
that one from him.
Speaker 15 (26:50):
Yeah, I mean, obviously it's not that outrageous. If the
Celtics kid number two and the Knicks kid number three,
and they both win their first round series, then they
face each other, right, so this could be a potential
second round series, and I think the Celtics would you
would like to think would be more prepared. They gave
away basically Games one and two in Boston and kind
of handed the series to the Knicks, and the Knicks
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were the better team. Tom Thibodeaux obviously no longer to
coach in New York. Key out coach so Wazoo in
that series and they outplayed the Celtics. So the Celtics
obviously are looking back at the Knicks and they want
to get back. So I think that would be obviously
one of the more entertaining series Boston and New York
going at it. You know, Robb's been to a bunch
of those games. Yes, you know, they don't like you.
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None of those teams like each other. So I think
it would be a great series. So yeah, let's hope
for that.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I want to ask you about the Pistons for the
for the great season that they've had thus far. The
one thing that scares me is that three point shooting.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Gary.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I mean, they're in the bottom third. They struggle with
the shots from the perimeter.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Can can that?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Can they overcome that and really make a playoff run?
Will let come to bite you, you know at some
point when you play playoff basketball.
Speaker 15 (28:05):
Yeah, I think they can overcome that. I meaning they
got Kevin Herder from the Bulls, they got Duncan Robertson,
They got guys who can shoot. Tobias Harris. Kate is
a better three point shoot than these shows. Like that's
the disappointing part about Kate. The only thing that's kind
of led is Kate. Every time I seen him play
themselves and he hits them threes, but they you know,
his percentage is not that high. But they have shooters.
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But I just think if they play that physical brand
of basketball, that jav bickersaff defensive style, that bad boys,
they can beat anybody. I think that's a concern. If
you know, they play the right kind of defensive team
who kind of locks down and kind of can match
them in the paint. But I don't know, Bob, if
there's a team that can match up with Beef Stu
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and Jalen Durham. I mean, Jalen duran is a dude
you don't want to see in a dark gallery. I
mean that dude's real Detroit. I mean the same thing
with Beef Stue. I mean, they have a big, physical
team and if they get a hold of you, you know, dephysically,
it's gonna it's gonna be a cat fight. So to me,
I do think it's a concern, but I also think
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the Pistons can overcome it.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
Question for you after last night's game, I was in
here watching it, but I was live on air SGA
and Jalen Brunton all to talk about flopping and drawing
fouls and a different whistle for SGA, and then Mike
Brown saying, oh yeah, he's a tough cover.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Do you expect the league to do anything?
Speaker 8 (29:31):
I really feel like there's nothing they could do but
down the stretching into the playoffs. Do you think there's
gonna be more of an emphasis on flopping and how
it's called how fouls are called down the stretch because
of this.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Well, also, I think that this is what STA does.
Speaker 15 (29:45):
I mean, he gets to the free throw line. I mean,
here's the reason why he scored twenty points for upteam
consecutive games. So he gets to the free throw line.
That's what he does.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
He he knows how to contort his body to draw contacts.
Speaker 15 (29:58):
He knows how to yell. You know, God, I mean,
they didn't do that back in the day, Rob They
didn't jail when they took a shot.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
You know, they did not, my god, not do that now.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Ah, you know, it's like what happened to you?
Speaker 10 (30:10):
Man?
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Like get up?
Speaker 12 (30:11):
You know he's like.
Speaker 15 (30:12):
Friday ain't even went over there?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
What you're doing?
Speaker 12 (30:15):
Like like like what you I mean?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Guys are screaming for the because they're trying to, you know,
get bring the kitchen to the contact. That's what SGJ
has mastered, what the game has become, and.
Speaker 15 (30:27):
I cannot blame him for that. But the Brunton is
the same way Brunson uses that little shifty moves. I mean,
I think bruns is an amazing player for his size
to what he brings the table. But One of the
things that he brings is.
Speaker 12 (30:40):
I will draw found, I will fall on the ground.
Speaker 15 (30:43):
If you touch me, I will collapse.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
But you know what crazy, though, Gary, is they don't
give James Harden any of that in the postseason. You know,
like the difference between when he played regular season to
postseason and and it altered how he's played, you know
what I mean, Like he was looking for call that
he never would get. It's just crazy to me that
you would change post regular season of postseason.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
But I think you're right. Sga has done it, and
so is Brunson, and that's how it is. But Gary,
thank you so much, my man. We always appreciate your knowledge.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 15 (31:16):
Hey, good to be with you, guys.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Thank you all right.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Gary Washburn, Boston Globe National NBA writer, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
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it is now time for shop talk.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Let's do it.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Well, that's right, it is shop talk here in the
OC coup. Let's same when we talk about something happen
outside of the world of sports.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
This week.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
We're cheating a little bit because this story is heavy
and we had to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
It's right.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
It has a sports tie in.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Kevin Mays you might have know who he is, former
Cal State Bakersfield men's basketball player and temporary assistant coach
is the key thing here. Guys is currently awaiting trial
because he is alleged, while he was coaching as a
temporary assistant coach, to have been pimping across four separate
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states and is currently facing a rap sheet of eleven
different criminal and misdemeanor charges, including possession of automatic firearms,
possession of methamphetamine, intend to sell, possession of more than
six hundred images of child pornography.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Oh my, it is all bad all the time, guys.
Just your thoughts on this story, this bizarre and depressing story.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Keith, you want to start this one. Yeah, that took
a turn. That's not good.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
It's not something that you can laugh off or make
light of. He's going to jail, and you just, you know,
pray for the people affected. And it's a good thing
that they found it out. But it's crazy. People live
double lives and they could be amongst us and you
don't know what they're doing in the dark, but it
comes to light, comes to light.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And when you hear the story, it's just mind boggling,
you know, because on one hand, you're this basketball coach
and you're around youth, you know, and molding and shaping, uh,
the youth of tomorrow, right, and the youth of today,
I should say, And then you have this dark side,
like you're a pimp on your free time.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Really crazy, Alex you well, you know, being a former
pimp myself. Robin, No, I'm just saying pimpin ain't easy.
But I'll say this, it really is a big testament
to say that people's backgrounds do matter, and especially your history,
because a lot of the time we like to say
people can be reformed, people can change. We don't want
to judge people off their past. But I think there's
(34:51):
also something that has to be said about when you're
coaching youth or children or doing something in some kind
of an authoritive figure. This goes to police officers, et cetera.
I've always had a gripe that things that are so
important are less talked about, or encouraged or actually restrained upon. So,
for example, Rob, did you know like becoming a barber
is harder than becoming a police officer? Like these kind
of things, I question it. So if you're gonna be
(35:13):
a coach for a team, maybe check your background a
little bit, just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
It'll be something I hear you about that. Martin Wiss,
what about you? Just thoughts on this. It's just a
bizarre story. It's shameful.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I uh, you guys said a lot.
Speaker 16 (35:29):
My thoughts go to the person who hired him as
a temporary head coach. What a decision. It's like, how
do you like, first of all, what was what was
a temporary basis? What was the status in which you
have a temporary coach in general? Right, Like it's not
really a job that you volunteer for that. I read
the story too. The guy was like committing crimes and
(35:50):
rental cars that he had rented from this like on
his work account.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
It's like, but there's somebody not minding the store, like
I would like, serious, you have to go back and
go what was the investigation into his background?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
When they hire people, you know, like like you have
to vet people to find out something Marre, did he
have a prior a rust record or something that that I.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Did not see. No, I mean, I'm not sure. I
just you know, I read the story. The details are insane.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
They are rob g I think that's primarily the problem
is there was no background check of any kind of stuff.
I think they said, hey, we know him from our
basketball program. We played for us, but we like him,
We're going to bring him on. We got him as
like a player development assistant to start off with, and
so on and so forth. And to think, when I
just read the headline, I said, hey, college basketball coach
(36:40):
was pimping across four states. My first thought was, hey,
let's have fun with this, like, Hey, what's the worst
crime that you'd be willing to overlook to be a
coach for, like a youth team or a high school
team or whatever. And then as you keep reading the story,
you're like, well, this is not funny at all. There's
nothing there's nothing I can do to make this a
lighthearted segment.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
And so I know, whenever you see the word pimping it,
you know what I mean, you want to be like
because it.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Was such a bizarre headline, and that's the headline. And
then I think if they would have put in the
headline temporary coach is also being charged with six hundred
counts of chop pornography, then that's a totally different conversation
going under the jail. Oh yeah, just I'm I wouldn't
be surprised, and we got a little bit of time here.
I would not be surprised if he ends up being
(37:25):
guilty whatever. But if this basketball program doesn't exist in
like two years.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I'll tell you this, whoever hired them and those people,
they're going to feel the raft as well because they're
already already done.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Ye article, Because cal State Bakerfield is not exactly a
hotbed for basketball, so they might get at
Speaker 1 (37:46):
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