December 1, 2025 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why it might be time for the Pittsburgh Steelers to move on from head coach Mike Tomlin. Plus, former Pro Bowl wide receiver and Up on Game co-host TJ Houshmandzadeh swings by to discuss Tomlin’s murky future, what Jaxson Dart needs to learn if he expects to be a franchise NFL quarterback moving forward, whether Lane Kiffin made a mistake leaving Ole Miss for LSU, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (01:12):
Houschman's oda, former Pro Bowl wide receiver and of course
co host up on Game on here right here on
Fox Sports Radio. So we'll do that as well coming
up in this hour. And uh, it's crazy. As bad
as the Stealers were and as bad as the Ravens were,
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they're both still fighting for the division, you know what
I mean, Like one of these teams gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Joe Burrow picked a bad year to have been down
because I'd be looking like, man, if I was here
this whole season, we would have.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
We would have been done with the division by now.
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But obviously there was the Mike Tomlin bowing and people
want to, you know, fire Mike Tomlin, and we do
have the sound on that. Let's say, yeh, listen, you
(02:08):
know what, it's not surprising at all. And I've said
this to you before that they haven't won a playoff
game in a long time.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You can't keep resting on that championship.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
It's the same thing like John Harbaugh and I said,
I said it both and he's been coached.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Think about this, Mike.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Tom eighteen years, dude, and that finishing above five hundred
or I had five hundred or better mediocre? Like okay,
Like is that that's cool? Like for a few years,
you know, if you're mixing another one or another championship
or something.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So I'm not I'm not against.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I understand the frustration of the Steelers fans, you know,
like this is this is real fans want to win
like this, there's and we get it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You don't get to win that many times. You know that.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
If you could get see your team winning your lifetime
once or twice, you're good. Yeah, and the Steelers one,
but that was what was that? That was before because
they lost to the Packers in twenty ten? So was
it before that or rob g when was that? Yeah,
they won two thousand and eight or nine.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I know they won with.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Because they run in Detroit when the Super Bowls in
six But I think that was cowards last one, so I.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Think he won to beat Seattle. Was that the one? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So that, but I think that was Cowards and then
he went off to the sunset. Yeah, two thousands and
then that was great and then they lost the next year, right,
a year or two later they walked to the Packers.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah was that two years later? I thought they won
in twenty ten? No, Well it's always that weird super
Bowl in the next year.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
But anyway, my point is, if I'm pitched so twice
years right, twice a couple of years later, so then,
but then it's been up a long drought for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Uh and and.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
People get restless to natives. So I'm fully if I'm
the Steelers organization, and I know they don't do it
because they've had three cod Is over fifty years or
whatever it's been. It feels like about that, right, three
coaches and there, Yeah, maybe forty is that the right number?
But anyway, my point is, unless they get to the
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super Bowl, I'm ready to move off of Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I've had enough. I think you need a new voice.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Even they could even get a playoffs, win a playoff game,
and I still would be ready to move off. That's
that's where I am. And I know that sounds hard
because you go, well, you took the next step. I
just think that it's played out. It's it's old. There'll
be other teams that would take him overnight. He get
a job overnight. Brother ain't gonna be unemployed. Sometimes you
just need to move off off. And we saw that
with Tony Dungee. I brought that up before. Now he
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wasn't there that long, but he couldn't get over the
humpa Tampa Bay and.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
John Gouden showed up. Now, John Gruden, other than that year,
he wasn't a great coach man. Done you a check?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You remember that Rob g showed up and then of
course to play his former team.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That helped. What was going on that defense?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Man, that's one of my favorite teams. All they scored,
They scored more points than the oppensive. Dude, they would
they would get an interception running them all back, dude,
Derek Brooks, Warren Sack. That was Farland Rendez Barber. That
team was amazing. It was a Simian Simian rice.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
No, the team was that that was insane.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
It was like Miami one and Miami certain.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
The Miami teams were Okay, everybody in the entire defense
is going to was.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
On that covered that that would That was the number
one offense against the number one defense.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What do they say defenseive championship? The heck is this
couple of things? Number one.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
The Steelers always tell us that the standard is a standard,
and dangy, what is the standard now?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Upper tier mid because that's what they become robbed.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
When it was sixteen games, they'd be you know, nine,
or you know, they'd be nine and seven eight, you
know now to be what ten and ten and seven
or nine and eight. That's like what they have been
the last decade or so. They've been having such bad offenses.
They've been struggling on offensively, and I can see why
the fans will be like, enough is enough. We've given grace,
(06:04):
We've given time. We said, okay, this quarterback is young, Okay,
this one we've gotten thereon Rogers, like we've done a
multitude of things.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
This just ain't it. And so if they.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Decided to move from Mike Tomlin eighteen years in the
twenty twenties and twenty tens, isn't a remarkable gig That
doesn't happen in sports, That doesn't happen in the world anymore.
Gone other days of your father working for IBM or
the GM planning Detroit for thirty forty years, fifty years.
This is a different area. This is the what have
(06:33):
you done for me lately? Are And if you haven't
done something in three four years, usual year out the door.
So Mike Tomlin has been elicited some grace that other
coaches don't often get. So I look at this, you
mentioned the fans are staying. We're used to super Bowl
being a chance, right, a chance they had historically a chance.
They had a nice role with Ben Roethlisberger where we
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got to a couple of super Bowls, we won one,
and we were right there on the edge a few years.
They were used to being relevant. The Steelers are no
longer relevant in a positive way. And so yes, fans
are gonna boo, and I don't I think they also
don't see green pastor like nothing looks like it's gonna
get better, Like they don't have that like all this
is where.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We're going in the direction. I think it's bigger than that.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I just think like they he's been there too long
and there's no like like they'll give it a shot
and be like, yo, let's see, but after a while,
like eighteen years and my tom is a real long time.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
To be a coach.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
He himself, it's not the old days where Tommy Walter
Alston was the Dodger manager and he signed twenty four
one year contract. You know, like in those days, like
guys didn't go where are they going? And the Dodgers
didn't win. It didn't win all the time, you know,
what I mean, but they didn't change managers like that.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, I just think Mike, Mike, the fans are fed up.
They booed him, They booed Anon Rodgers, who just came
back in the game from a broken nose what it
looked like, or at least a beat up nose.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And he even he even caught a stray.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
So fans are just fed up in Pittsburgh for one
of the first times we've seen it in a while.
And they even had you know, Aaron Rodgers had to
talk about after the.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Game go ahead. We got that. All's part of it.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
You know, they pay money for a ticket, so they
have the right, could better indifferent to say what they want.
So untilally understand the frustration. I've been booed on our offense,
even in Green Bay over the years. So that was
a boot worthy performance and understand the frustration.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right and and at least he's honest.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Like some guys they don't want to hear any boos,
like they think that we.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Don't need that right now, what I like, I appreciate
him at.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Least be keeping it right. It was worthy of them
buoing me. I get it out there and even said it.
I was booed in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yes, and here's what we were talking about. They've had
three coaches since nineteen sixty nines. Think about what sense
for you?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That is crazy, which is why goal two years, Bill
Cowell fourteen year team.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Okay, so what is that?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That's thirty six and then you add another eighteen for
Mike tominty four. That's over fifty of their three code
back man your whole life.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Think about that almost that's crazy, and again, compliments to them,
but that's why they've had stability, that's why they've had
this twenty one seasons without a losing record. But at
a certain point that can't be the standard. The standard
has to be we win super Bowls, we get to
Super Bowls, we are competitive in that regard, and they're
falling off like and you.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Can't even say that, like even that because they haven't
even they haven't even won a playoff game.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And since what those eight nine years now, right, I
think this year would this is nine going on ten,
like almost a decade, and that can't be the case
because now you look at it as we got the
Monday night getting ready to kick off.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Are the Patriots back?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Drake May how many years.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Has it been, Rob g just off the top of
since they won a playoff or playoff game or or
been relevant.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Think it's been twenty eighteen? Was it that six? Six
or seven?
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Is that it?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Okay? Yeah? But was that what? Who was the quarterback?
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Well, they made the playoffs with Mac Jones, but they
didn't win a game, that's right. And then they made
they won one. Not Brady's last year, the year before
his last year.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They wont a playoff.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Okay, yeah, but that's how it happened, and before you
know it, years go by it, and in this case,
I mean eighteen years at the helm, I think your
voice gets stale. It doesn't mean he can't cold, it
doesn't mean that nobody cants him or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But sometimes it's time to move on.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
And I think if even if I'm him, you got
to like think about it. And I know it's hard
to just like you've been running the place or whatever
for a long time. Nobody's gonna push me out, but
at some point you got to look at yourself and go, like,
you know what, I need a fresh start. I need
somewhere else. And that's a great run.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
But I wonder so that I don't disagree with the
idea that he's had a run and an uncomparable I
mean again, you don't get that run. You can win
a super Bowl and be out two years.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You can win an sold in Philadelphia the exactly then
we see that like Doug Peterson.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
It was like.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They said, you can do the Douggie on somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You can go to Jacksonville and they get bounced from
there in two years.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And that serious they've been calling seriality.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Done nothing but win at a high clip, one of
all time clips of the first five years being head
coast five percent or something, and they and they every
week they're calling for him. So that so that's why
I go to your point about him leaving. That's why
he probably would not want to leave, because as long
as I'm competitive and good, all I've known is a job.
All I've known is security. And it ain't like that
(11:38):
everywhere else. If he becomes available, he's gonna get. He
would get a job. Anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
He would get a job the night he got you
get a job. Like what I'm saying is so many,
so many bad coaches, like like you ain't lying about that.
There's so many, but I'm saying, what if he don't,
What if he enjoys the stability, is what I'm saying, meaning, Okay,
I take the job for the making it up the Titans,
but I'm just got two years.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You get stale though.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Don't you think that you know there's situations it could
get stale on you. The biggest challenge for him job
and relationship.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I can't get is not you, it's me. You know
he can run? Is that the line run with the Steelers.
It's not you, it's me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
It's me. It's me. I see so much more for you. Girls.
Just go ahead, go ahead. I'm sure I want to
see you fly.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Somebody else will treat you way better than I can
treat you.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I can do.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I gotta fix me right now.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But my only point, Rob, we might not be having
this conversation if they had changed their philosophy a bit
more offensively. They have been stale offensively even before Ann
Rodgers like, they don't have a juice in that regard.
And when I think you look at the collective of
the NFL, where teams are going, and the teams that
you know who kind of are popping, and you got
you already got the guys you knew, Josh Allens, the
(12:54):
Lamar the you know Patrick Mahomes, guys you chased. Then
you got these Drake Mads and the boat Nicks and
then wherever you want to put justin Herber kind of
in the middle of those, like you got a lot
of guys in your own conference that are compete. C
Stroud seems to be coming back around, and I know
about that, and that they're looking at.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It like no touch. Are the Coats real?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Like I think they're looking at it like, man, we
can't be behind all of these teams in our own
let alone the other conference, just in our own conference
at AFC, and they don't have anything inside. Aaron Rodgers
is this last year. He doesn't look great. The offense
is struggling. They can't run the ball. They were talking
about bringing him back next year. That can't be good.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So it's like what's coming down the pipeline always depends
on the finish obviously that that'll determine everything. Where they are.
They're not out of anything. As we just talked about
it that the division is dead.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
To be had. Can you can you finish? Straw? They
play this man, they got some good games.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I mean might and and and and I'm going to
Detroit on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's another one. Destroy Cowboys a good one because that's
a big.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
One if the if the Lions lose that game, they
don't have a really hard time to make it.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Maybe that's almost a playoff game. Seriously, well for.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Both teams view it that way because the Cowboys feel like,
especially with the Eagles loss, we got a shot, you know,
a long way.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And you're gonna look at the Cowboys who think to themselves, dude,
look at what we've done the last few weeks. This
is winnable. Like no Saint Brown right, Oh no, they
look scary, dude, I don't know what is he?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Dude? Right now? Come back? Did he laugh?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
He's like, but you know I'm not gonna be here.
That's the typical Lions. And I'm gonna tell you why.
That was a good tease. Okay, that was a good tea.
I'm just gonna keep it real. What why Why announced
that before he has his physical like seriously, like, like.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You retire when you coming back?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
They posted it too, like on their page there's a
picture him in a tunnel.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
All I'm saying is, hey, come in. Let's get the physical,
let's get everything straight. And then we announced it. Everybody's
excited like they they they they messed up because they
jumped the gun and you already know that the guy retired.
And then you got to make sure you know it
ain't like, oh, you're coming back, Okay, you're on the team.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
No, this is a physical. There's stuff, There's a lot
to go through. So guess who welcomed them back? The
Lions could have welcome back Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson,
come on back to the retire when I still have
something left in the tank?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Club Mega Trons to come on over here.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
There's me and you and Barry's great greats who still
has something left in the tank.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
But we got out Lion. We tied of the Lions,
all right?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox? Is it time
for the Stealers to move on from Mike Tomlin? I mean,
Kelvin and I don't agree on much, but we agree
on this other thing going to the super Bowl? And
I'm serious other thing going to the super Bowl. I've
had enough, I've seen enough. I think it's just time
for a fresh voice. What would it take for you
if they get to the.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, they gotta get you.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
So they gotta get they have to make a deep
playoff run and look like, oh they can be something
like we if you get.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
To the super Bowl, though, I mean I think that
that's not enough. If they get to the super Bowl,
they can't fire coach of.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Is it a giant super Bowl though? You know where
it's look like how we've struggled to get in. You know,
it might not be good next to you get to
the super Bowl. I don't know who I want to
begg it were going somewhere.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You want a Rex Grossman's super Bowl, Like, yeah, I
don't want that. We're like, yea, how do we get here?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And we don't never hear from all the lines would
take that because they still haven't gotten Hey, hey, oh
I'm sorry you're going there Thursday. We'll continue to cut camera.
All right, we'll try boom. What do you get if
you look at this man? Okay, they can boom be
boom and then come to my barber shop.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Okay, get a head.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
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con calming away, rob g You you read a few of
those throughout the day as well. All right, we're talking
about the Steelers. Is the time to move on from
Mike Tomlin? As long as he finished five hundred? You
okay with him?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Stay?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
What's the barometer? Does he have to win a champions
super Bowl? Get to the super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine? On Fox?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Let's go to Adam and Andy. Adam, you were on
with the Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio. What's up Adam?
Speaker 8 (18:20):
Hey, what's so? Guys? Uh? Yeah, I mean I like
Tomlin as a coach, but it's like who they pick up?
Like you just you see these teams that let these
coaches go that were like good coaches, but it was
like they need a fresh start and then they just
don't ever go back up like.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
You're saying.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
You're saying if they let him go, but who would
they bring in.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Yeah, who would they bring in because like I think
like he just needs to like change his ways a
little bit like he sees I don't know, like with
Chris Baward, like he had a way that he always
did it. I mean, we're still waiting on the Colts
to do something with it. But they made that big
trade with Sastcard and it's like it seems like did they.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Change their quarterback? Oh, I'm sorry, yo, Well, I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
I'm just saying like what you're saying, like, well, they
got rid of Pickings, Like I get it. He's like,
you know, one hundred percent like crash out type player.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
But he's been balling he I mean, but yeah, but
in Pittsburgh, Yeah, he's trying to get paid.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
But he was a headache in Pittsburgh. Didn't get they
didn't get rid of him because of his talent.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
It's always like they're guys like that who and and
sometimes it takes moving off from them for them to
for the light to turn on. You know, it happens
eighty seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Dan in Kansas City,
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
What's up, Dan?
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Hey, Roby Kelvin, how you doing? Like two objections? I mean, first,
the Chiefs are going to go eleven and six? And
second wait.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait? What did you
have for Thanksgiving? Eleven and six?
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Well?
Speaker 9 (20:00):
I had turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, tomato.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Come on, you know you don't even you could be
the biggest chief fan Chiefs fan?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You really think they gonna they gonna win every game?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Come?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Have you watched them?
Speaker 9 (20:13):
They have problems on but they can have problems, you know,
just it just takes you no time. You know, I
know they're running out of time, but they.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Can keep hope alive, keep hope alive. Okay, eleven and
six were little on the extreme. Sorry go ahead. Ten
and seven?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
All right?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Maybe maybe something? Is he still there?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
He want to tell you about that. I just want
to tell you about this turkey sandwich and mashed potatoes.
And I see he had one other point.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I was just trying. I just couldn't take the eleven
and six.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Orlando and l Passo, you're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Hey, Beliz.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
It must be devastating to you that the Steelers aren't
do well because of their level firm with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
But I will.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Orlando, this is the last time you're calling. Okay, don't call.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
If you if you really knew anything about me. Seriously,
I just I just want to just give you a lesson.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I just want to know.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I want to give you a lessons. I don't care, Okay,
I don't know. I care about my takes and being right.
I don't lose any sleep if the Steelers don't win
or Aaron Rodgers doesn't play well. I don't know why
I've been doing this job for forty years for zero Orlando.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I'm not a fanboy.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I know there's a lot of guys that you listen
to or read or whatever or watch on team.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm not that guy. Do you think I lose any
sleep over any team losing? Zero, Orlando.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Don't be backing down, Orlando, No, I'm not backing down.
Being honest, I I just don't care what I'm What
I care about is that I picked the Chiefs and
the Lions not to make the playoffs before Orlando tag
me in because he also picked the Steelers to make
the playoffs. He also thank it, Orlando, you had him
(22:23):
on the road. They had me on no rope. You
hit him with a two piece of a biscuit. Come on, Orlando,
these guys, they think they will call up and think
that I care, that I that I really care.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I'm not a fan. I've been doing this for forty
freaking years.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
You know when my fandom stopped when I got a
job as a professional reporter Orlando in nineteen eighty six.
And don't you ever ever think anything otherwise. You've never
seen me wear no players jersey and and all that
stuff and root for anybody.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I don't do that because I don't do that.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's not what I'm meant to I went to Columbia
Journalism School.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
What's your point?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I got to sitting next to you every day right
I started my PhD at NYU. I have a press
box at Southern Connecticut State University?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Whatit mait? What is it? Are you? You didn't just retire?
I don't want your resume. I'm giving my bio. This
is not your Parker reference page. Will ever picked the bio?
Ever call up here with that? Orlando?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
What Orlando was supposed to do with? Stand ten toes down? Orlando,
you let him get you dang all right, speaking to
get you.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Hohospas out on the way.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Uh. We'll talk to NFL headlines with him, including this
when what he thoughts? I obviously was in the same
division as Mike Tomlin for years. Get his thoughts on
that right now, Steve the saga, Hey, Steve.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
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Speaker 4 (23:55):
Steve, thank you so much, appreciate it. I couple Rod
Parker kelvin Washington on a magic any Monday coming up.
We're gonna talk a little bit about Shador Sanders, how
he played on and off the field. We're talking about
that a little bit right now.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I'm with Judge Judy.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Well, I want to be with Judge you he making
forty five fifty million years at ninety seven years old.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Housmizata a former Pro Bowl wide receiver, co host of
Up on Game on Fox Sports Radio, and has the
best ponytail in the game.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
My dog, Who's what up man? Who's How long have
you had that ponytail? How long is your hair? Have
you ever cut your hair that man?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Yeah, trimm trimman, No, but I mean cutting.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Have you ever like?
Speaker 6 (24:35):
No? No, no, I haven't had a hair cut since
probably nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It started with a nineteen serious twenty six years.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Yeah. I started growing in when I was in junior college.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
What's the reason, you, Samson?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
What is it?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Nah? Man? I just I didn't have nobody really to
cut my hair. And when I first started putting in
the pony's, I use have to go home. My mama
would put in the ponytail and I wear a do
rag overnight because I didn't know how to do it myself.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I can't mess this up exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Shoot, all right, let's get to some all the way
turning their hairstyles with Robin Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
All right, there's a there's a few things going on. Yeah,
we could do that. Yeah, we're both on the same page.
We don't agree on a lot. But after this year,
unless they go to the Super Bowl, eighteen years of
Mike Tom and I'm good, I think it's time for
a new voice, just to make a change. They've had
(25:34):
three coaches in fifty four years. I just think it's
tired or stale.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Where are you.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I actually agree that they need to go their separate ways.
And the biggest problem is this. Once they saw Ben
Roethlisberger on the other side, they should have prepared for
that and drafted a quarterback that could have taken over it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But they drafted guys, but none of them weren't good.
They did They.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Were drafting guys in the third round. They weren't drafting
guys to be the air a parent. They were hoping, Okay,
this draft of Mason Rudolph and hope you got a
draft a guy. Very rarely, are you're going to get
a Time Brady really late in the draft, or you
just draft somebody outside the first two rounds that is
a franchise quarterback. That's rare, And so they could have
(26:26):
done it, but you know, they want to draft and
spend all this money on the defensive side of the ball,
and now that defense is giving up over two hundred
yards of game rushing and that's where all your money
is at.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
No doubt, I got to and I want to figure
out and then there. But going into the season, TJ
I predicted the Chiefs and the Lions would not both
make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Where are you on those two teams.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Obviously, the Lions have a huge game against the Cowboys
on Thursday. Where are you on those two teams and
how surprised are you to see them where they are.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
I'm not surprised now. I said this last week or
two weeks ago. I didn't think the Chiefs wouldn't make
the playoffs, but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't.
It's really hard to play at such a high level
year end and year out, win the Vision every single
year because everybody you played they're getting up for you.
(27:24):
It don't matter. Every all seventeen games, your opponent gets
up for you more than they get up for everybody else.
And so for the Chiefs that's hard to do. John
Harball has always been good, I said, John, Jim Harball
has always been very good. In this second year, you
knew what Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos was going
to be really good, and so I just felt like
(27:46):
the Chiefs would win it. And then with the Lions
you lose both coordinators. I assumed it would be a
drop off offensively and the drop office at same players,
they should be a little bit better, but it's just
that timely play calling that they don't have. I still
believe the Lions will make the playoffs, and from the
looks of it, I don't believe the Chiefs will.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, both teams have a shot.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
The Lions a little bit better than the Chiefs, and
a lot of their destiny will be in their hand.
The last game of the season to be against the Bears.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
That will last game, maybe bigger than that before.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I'm saying that. Probably my opinion will be they win,
they can be in. They lose their out. That's how
it is set up. Let's go to some other teams.
We'll see it. TJ.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
They got three really good teams in their way, the
forty nine Ers, who are the.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Three you tell me they got to play? No, who
are ahead of them?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Like the Packers, the forty nine Ers, the Packers in
the division, and the Seahawks like those are the unless
they have a meltdown.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But a lot of those teams.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
The only thing that works in favor of him, A
lot of the teams are playing in the conference, like,
for instance, the Bears played two games they.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Play the Hawks are in. The Seahawks and Rounds are in.
Is can they get ahead of the Niners, right, the
Seahawks and they're in can can they get ahead of
the Niners? And that's possible, Yeah, that's possible if no.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Same Saint Brown the last the next two weeks and
the Lion and the Lions played.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
It's a lot. Yeah, the Lions play the fighting rapping
on Monday night.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Yeah. Man, they trying to take Jackson Dart's head off.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Oh yeah, well, you know what, let's stay there for
a minute. Tej who was out of our guests, former
Pro Bowl receiver of course on with the Akabarab and
Kelvin that they highlighted this previously on Countdown getting ready
to Jackson Dart obviously loving and filling himself and running
and trying to win for his team. They highlighted teacher,
he just runs in and the Robin Ice city here
every week. We're like, man, he's got to learn the slider.
(29:40):
He keeps getting hit and I feel like part of
that hit you just got because guys know you can
hit him. You know he's gonna, you know, try to
take that hit, get that at your yard.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But did you they've made the rule so that you
could slide and avoid that, right, So what do you.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Say to him, Yeah, man, this is mentality. Man. I've
been knowing this kid since he was in high school.
That's his mentality. It wasn't a penalty. He was in bounds.
This to Patrick Mahomes, I'm gonna run down the sideline
and you think I'm gonna step out, and I'm gonna
keep going. So all these dudes are doing. If you're
gonna tiptoe down a sideon, I'm gonna go ahead and
tiptoe you out of bounds, right.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I don't see any problem with it right there. No, No,
he keeps creating guys. No, he's gonna go there for
the extra yard.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
This is a thing, though. They need to be consistent
with this though, because that wasn't an unnecessary rapid. That
wasn't a late hit. But with other quarterbacks, that's your late.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Hit, you said, Patrick Mahomes. I heard you too.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Officials need to be consistent, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I agree with you. I agree, I agree with no doubt.
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Yeah, well soay, yeah, obviously you're watching. This will continue
to keep folks updated. Man, help me out here. You
got a couple of teams, Rob and I gonna talk
about the next hour a little bit. The Bears and
the Broncos both leading and continue on nine to three
winning games. Are you sold on either one of those teams?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
I'm not in it. Hey, you know the bron the
Commanders literally had the game, but at the end of
the day, you got to make the play. It With
the Bears, it's just so weird, like you're like, Okay,
they're gonna lose this game. Oh, Wilson Caleb Williams is
complete less than fifty percent of his passes. Oh, they
(31:16):
run for over two hundred yards. And so at the
end of the day, they're making the plays.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You're only made that play, big touchdown throw.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
That they're making the plays when it's needed. And so
if you look at Kayler Williams, he took the ton
of sacks last year. He's not taking sax last year.
He turned the ball over last year. He's not turning
the ball over this year. And so those two things
that were very glaring, he's corrected them. And so he's
going to have to go into this offseason and say,
(31:47):
I have to be better at my completion percentage. So
I believe he'll hone in on that. But is it
a surprise with the Broncos. No, the Bears are a
huge surprise. They're leading the division right now. If I'm
not mistaken. Are they notnumber one in the ES?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
They are.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
But that win though, right there against the Eagles in Philadelphia,
like everybody was like, oh, well, they got.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
A cupcake schedule.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Here was your game, DJ, that was the game right Philadelphia,
who had just blown a twenty one to nothing lead
to Dallas. They had every reason to come out and
play great at home against the Bears, who people didn't
want to buy into, and it didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
If I'm in Chicago, I feel great.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
The Eagles were on high alert. They ready for that
game considering what you just said, I'm twenty one you
lose to the Cowboys. So that week of practice it
was a point emphasis of we got to make sure
we start fast, but we got to finish stronger because
we started fast last game, we didn't finish it. The
Bears defensively are turning it up. Not like they played
(32:53):
very good on defense. Now is that a lack of
what Philly has on offense? I don't know. But you
got to get a Bears defense under credit and that
offensive line and DeAndre Swift. They went to work because
the Eagles defense, as we know, it's tough to run
on to do anything going almost like we in college football.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yes, on the road in Philly. That was a big win.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
I was shot. Hey, can I ask you all the question?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Are you guys what y'all think about the Lange kissing thing?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well, we talked about it earlier. Uh My thing.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Was you built your program is better than LSU right now,
not a story.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Right now.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
We disagree.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You tell them good and tell them to you.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
We disagree.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I take that job ten times out of ten times.
You ain't winning that old miss, he knows, tell them
you take that job.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Hey, listen, if your kid is getting recruited by LSU,
and no, miss, where you're sending your kids.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Where you're gonna send me to k I'm sending them
ls I'm sorry there you go.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Of course, of course, and they are having they are
having a good season. But at the end of the day,
he's such a great coach, and then he identifies talent
and puts him in the system. LS you is just
a better job.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Don't tell me that, Thank tj Y. He can't get it.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
If he's a great coach. Coach on the ole miss
I agree with you. Stay there and Windy.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, man, you're living in a finas.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
They're gonna win. They just not gonna win at all.
They not beating Ohio State, They're not beating at Georgia.
They that old miss l s U. You can beat
those guys because you're gonna have those type of guys that.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Can do it. Well. He better do it because he
ain't did it yet in about a twenty years career.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I tried to tell him for twenty minutes, and you know,
I just GJ. You're still you won't listen to me
because I didn't play in the NFL. That is why
I listen to you know, he don't want to listen
to what I'm saying. Forget TJ that I've been in
this business for forty years.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
TJ. I'm so tired of hearing that. TJ. That's my
alarm clock. All right, we freeciate you bro, all right, Teller, No, no,
we got more the couple Fox Long Clock. That'll be
a great gut uh.
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Speaker 1 (35:17):
Gucciek Burt, come on, can we get Christmas back to
where it was? You don't like this, you're here the baltime, Gucci,
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It's the odd couple her run DMC's Christmas song. I'm
(35:37):
going we still we still got times. Look another hour.
Mary Mack has locked the lotus. Dang and we got
a whole month rock that's better.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
First got I will touch that seventeen hundred music. I
promise it's okay. No, no, no, no, I agree. Robin
is a classic. We got plenty of time, rob our couple,
Fox Sports Radio. Thank you to t J who was
out our guest who joined us moments ago.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Check out the podcast helped you out. Yeah, ain't no,
I still I still stand on bitness is the one
thing with Kelvin. Whenever the like the guests come on
and he told he get like some traction or whatever
and the NA.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
What's the scoring that like fifty two to two? He's
always like, okay, fifty two to two.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, okay, No, first of all, I'm like this what
I was talking about with Orlando earlier.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I stand on business. I said what I said Orlando. Okay, Oh,
speaking of which, real quick forty ye.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
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Speaker 2 (36:38):
Tirack dot comment is the way tied biing should be?
Rob g got some odd mob comments, you tub beans
what we already know.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
This is all about a lot of comments in the
wake of the call with Orlando from our past.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Nobody hick want.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
To hear ro we go, this is totally unrelated. Goddamn,
says Rob. You're definitely a fanboy.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Uh. Polo C says I can't read.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
The first part is inappropriate, but Rob definitely thin skin
fanboy for a rod Rob once said he could drink
Aaron Rodgers bathwater. Of course he's a fan. Rob wears
Kelvin's pj's to bed.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
That's a good one.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
And then Adam Castro says love how we can all agree.
Rob's definitely a fan boy for the Aarons, Rogers.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
And Karen's listen who said that That last.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
One was from what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Adam one of the old time great quarterbacks and a
guy who I said five years ago is going to
is one of the top sluggers in the history to
gain but five.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
Years getting heat because this is about Kelvin is a
voice of the fans and people value is it? Penis
what a lot of people think. But you're going nowhere
with his own misconversation.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I'm listening. I stand on business now.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Two years from now I might be feeling stupid, but
right now I'm standing on business.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
What else come on this morning, Calvin, I want to
hear it all.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
There's another one, Robin on that smokey Robinson right now.
My baby here laughing it up at these two. I'm
glad we can watch him too.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
That's a nice way they ended right there. It was
about more heat on that. I wanted more heat. I
admit my fandom Robin
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Speaker 2 (01:10):
Don't forget coming up in about twenty eight minutes. TJ.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Houschman's oda, former Pro Bowl wide receiver and of course
co host up on Game on here right here on
Fox Sports Radio. So we'll do that as well coming
up in this hour. And uh, it's crazy. As bad
as the Stealers were and as bad as the Ravens were,
(01:33):
they're both still fighting for the division, you know what
I mean, Like one of these teams gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Joe Burrow picked a bad year to have been down
because I'd be looking like, man, if I was here
this whole season, we would have.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
We would have been done with the division by now.
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But obviously there was the Mike Tomlin bowing and people
want to, you know, fire Mike Tomlin, and we do
have the sound on that. Let's say, yeh, listen, you
(02:08):
know what, it's not surprising at all. And I've said
this to you before that they haven't won a playoff
game in a long time.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You can't keep resting on that championship.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
It's the same thing like John Harbaugh and I said,
I said it both and he's been coached.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Think about this, Mike.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Tom eighteen years, dude, and that finishing above five hundred
or I had five hundred or better mediocre? Like okay,
Like is that that's cool? Like for a few years,
you know, if you're mixing another one or another championship
or something.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So I'm not I'm not against.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I understand the frustration of the Steelers fans, you know,
like this is this is real fans want to win
like this, there's and we get it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You don't get to win that many times. You know that.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
If you could get see your team winning your lifetime
once or twice, you're good. Yeah, and the Steelers one,
but that was what was that? That was before because
they lost to the Packers in twenty ten? So was
it before that or rob g when was that? Yeah,
they won two thousand and eight or nine.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I know they won with.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Because they run in Detroit when the Super Bowls in
six But I think that was cowards last one, so I.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Think he won to beat Seattle. Was that the one? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So that, but I think that was Cowards and then
he went off to the sunset. Yeah, two thousands and
then that was great and then they lost the next year, right,
a year or two later they walked to the Packers.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah was that two years later? I thought they won
in twenty ten? No, Well it's always that weird super
Bowl in the next year.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
But anyway, my point is, if I'm pitched so twice
years right, twice a couple of years later, so then,
but then it's been up a long drought for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Uh and and.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
People get restless to natives. So I'm fully if I'm
the Steelers organization, and I know they don't do it
because they've had three cod Is over fifty years or
whatever it's been. It feels like about that, right, three
coaches and there, Yeah, maybe forty is that the right number?
But anyway, my point is, unless they get to the
(04:13):
super Bowl, I'm ready to move off of Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I've had enough. I think you need a new voice.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Even they could even get a playoffs, win a playoff game,
and I still would be ready to move off. That's
that's where I am. And I know that sounds hard
because you go, well, you took the next step. I
just think that it's played out. It's it's old. There'll
be other teams that would take him overnight. He get
a job overnight. Brother ain't gonna be unemployed. Sometimes you
just need to move off off. And we saw that
with Tony Dungee. I brought that up before. Now he
(04:41):
wasn't there that long, but he couldn't get over the
humpa Tampa Bay and.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
John Gouden showed up. Now, John Gruden, other than that year,
he wasn't a great coach man. Done you a check?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You remember that Rob g showed up and then of
course to play his former team.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That helped. What was going on that defense?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Man, that's one of my favorite teams. All they scored,
They scored more points than the oppensive. Dude, they would
they would get an interception running them all back, dude,
Derek Brooks, Warren Sack. That was Farland Rendez Barber. That
team was amazing. It was a Simian Simian rice.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
No, the team was that that was insane.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
It was like Miami one and Miami certain.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
The Miami teams were Okay, everybody in the entire defense
is going to was.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
On that covered that that would That was the number
one offense against the number one defense.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What do they say defenseive championship? The heck is this
couple of things? Number one.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
The Steelers always tell us that the standard is a standard,
and dangy, what is the standard now?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Upper tier mid because that's what they become robbed.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
When it was sixteen games, they'd be you know, nine,
or you know, they'd be nine and seven eight, you
know now to be what ten and ten and seven
or nine and eight. That's like what they have been
the last decade or so. They've been having such bad offenses.
They've been struggling on offensively, and I can see why
the fans will be like, enough is enough. We've given grace,
(06:04):
We've given time. We said, okay, this quarterback is young, Okay,
this one we've gotten thereon Rogers, like we've done a
multitude of things.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
This just ain't it. And so if they.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Decided to move from Mike Tomlin eighteen years in the
twenty twenties and twenty tens, isn't a remarkable gig That
doesn't happen in sports, That doesn't happen in the world anymore.
Gone other days of your father working for IBM or
the GM planning Detroit for thirty forty years, fifty years.
This is a different area. This is the what have
(06:33):
you done for me lately? Are And if you haven't
done something in three four years, usual year out the door.
So Mike Tomlin has been elicited some grace that other
coaches don't often get. So I look at this, you
mentioned the fans are staying. We're used to super Bowl
being a chance, right, a chance they had historically a chance.
They had a nice role with Ben Roethlisberger where we
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got to a couple of super Bowls, we won one,
and we were right there on the edge a few years.
They were used to being relevant. The Steelers are no
longer relevant in a positive way. And so yes, fans
are gonna boo, and I don't I think they also
don't see green pastor like nothing looks like it's gonna
get better, Like they don't have that like all this
is where.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We're going in the direction. I think it's bigger than that.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I just think like they he's been there too long
and there's no like like they'll give it a shot
and be like, yo, let's see, but after a while,
like eighteen years and my tom is a real long time.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
To be a coach.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
He himself, it's not the old days where Tommy Walter
Alston was the Dodger manager and he signed twenty four
one year contract. You know, like in those days, like
guys didn't go where are they going? And the Dodgers
didn't win. It didn't win all the time, you know,
what I mean, but they didn't change managers like that.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, I just think Mike, Mike, the fans are fed up.
They booed him, They booed Anon Rodgers, who just came
back in the game from a broken nose what it
looked like, or at least a beat up nose.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And he even he even caught a stray.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
So fans are just fed up in Pittsburgh for one
of the first times we've seen it in a while.
And they even had you know, Aaron Rodgers had to
talk about after the.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Game go ahead. We got that. All's part of it.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
You know, they pay money for a ticket, so they
have the right, could better indifferent to say what they want.
So untilally understand the frustration. I've been booed on our offense,
even in Green Bay over the years. So that was
a boot worthy performance and understand the frustration.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right and and at least he's honest.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Like some guys they don't want to hear any boos,
like they think that we.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Don't need that right now, what I like, I appreciate
him at.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Least be keeping it right. It was worthy of them
buoing me. I get it out there and even said it.
I was booed in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yes, and here's what we were talking about. They've had
three coaches since nineteen sixty nines. Think about what sense
for you?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That is crazy, which is why goal two years, Bill
Cowell fourteen year team.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Okay, so what is that?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That's thirty six and then you add another eighteen for
Mike tominty four. That's over fifty of their three code
back man your whole life.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Think about that almost that's crazy, and again, compliments to them,
but that's why they've had stability, that's why they've had
this twenty one seasons without a losing record. But at
a certain point that can't be the standard. The standard
has to be we win super Bowls, we get to
Super Bowls, we are competitive in that regard, and they're
falling off like and you.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Can't even say that, like even that because they haven't
even they haven't even won a playoff game.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And since what those eight nine years now, right, I
think this year would this is nine going on ten,
like almost a decade, and that can't be the case
because now you look at it as we got the
Monday night getting ready to kick off.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Are the Patriots back?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Drake May how many years.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Has it been, Rob g just off the top of
since they won a playoff or playoff game or or
been relevant.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Think it's been twenty eighteen? Was it that six? Six
or seven?
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Is that it?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Okay? Yeah? But was that what? Who was the quarterback?
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Well, they made the playoffs with Mac Jones, but they
didn't win a game, that's right. And then they made
they won one. Not Brady's last year, the year before
his last year.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They wont a playoff.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Okay, yeah, but that's how it happened, and before you
know it, years go by it, and in this case,
I mean eighteen years at the helm, I think your
voice gets stale. It doesn't mean he can't cold, it
doesn't mean that nobody cants him or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But sometimes it's time to move on.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
And I think if even if I'm him, you got
to like think about it. And I know it's hard
to just like you've been running the place or whatever
for a long time. Nobody's gonna push me out, but
at some point you got to look at yourself and go, like,
you know what, I need a fresh start. I need
somewhere else. And that's a great run.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
But I wonder so that I don't disagree with the
idea that he's had a run and an uncomparable I
mean again, you don't get that run. You can win
a super Bowl and be out two years.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You can win an sold in Philadelphia the exactly then
we see that like Doug Peterson.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
It was like.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They said, you can do the Douggie on somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You can go to Jacksonville and they get bounced from
there in two years.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And that serious they've been calling seriality.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Done nothing but win at a high clip, one of
all time clips of the first five years being head
coast five percent or something, and they and they every
week they're calling for him. So that so that's why
I go to your point about him leaving. That's why
he probably would not want to leave, because as long
as I'm competitive and good, all I've known is a job.
All I've known is security. And it ain't like that
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everywhere else. If he becomes available, he's gonna get. He
would get a job. Anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
He would get a job the night he got you
get a job. Like what I'm saying is so many,
so many bad coaches, like like you ain't lying about that.
There's so many, but I'm saying, what if he don't,
What if he enjoys the stability, is what I'm saying, meaning, Okay,
I take the job for the making it up the Titans,
but I'm just got two years.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You get stale though.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Don't you think that you know there's situations it could
get stale on you. The biggest challenge for him job
and relationship.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I can't get is not you, it's me. You know
he can run? Is that the line run with the Steelers.
It's not you, it's me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
It's me. It's me. I see so much more for you. Girls.
Just go ahead, go ahead. I'm sure I want to
see you fly.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Somebody else will treat you way better than I can
treat you.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I can do.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I gotta fix me right now.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But my only point, Rob, we might not be having
this conversation if they had changed their philosophy a bit
more offensively. They have been stale offensively even before Ann
Rodgers like, they don't have a juice in that regard.
And when I think you look at the collective of
the NFL, where teams are going, and the teams that
you know who kind of are popping, and you got
you already got the guys you knew, Josh Allens, the
(12:54):
Lamar the you know Patrick Mahomes, guys you chased. Then
you got these Drake Mads and the boat Nicks and
then wherever you want to put justin Herber kind of
in the middle of those, like you got a lot
of guys in your own conference that are compete. C
Stroud seems to be coming back around, and I know
about that, and that they're looking at.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It like no touch. Are the Coats real?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Like I think they're looking at it like, man, we
can't be behind all of these teams in our own
let alone the other conference, just in our own conference
at AFC, and they don't have anything inside. Aaron Rodgers
is this last year. He doesn't look great. The offense
is struggling. They can't run the ball. They were talking
about bringing him back next year. That can't be good.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So it's like what's coming down the pipeline always depends
on the finish obviously that that'll determine everything. Where they are.
They're not out of anything. As we just talked about
it that the division is dead.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
To be had. Can you can you finish? Straw? They
play this man, they got some good games.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I mean might and and and and I'm going to
Detroit on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's another one. Destroy Cowboys a good one because that's
a big.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
One if the if the Lions lose that game, they
don't have a really hard time to make it.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Maybe that's almost a playoff game. Seriously, well for.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Both teams view it that way because the Cowboys feel like,
especially with the Eagles loss, we got a shot, you know,
a long way.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And you're gonna look at the Cowboys who think to themselves, dude,
look at what we've done the last few weeks. This
is winnable. Like no Saint Brown right, Oh no, they
look scary, dude, I don't know what is he?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Dude? Right now? Come back? Did he laugh?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
He's like, but you know I'm not gonna be here.
That's the typical Lions. And I'm gonna tell you why.
That was a good tease. Okay, that was a good tea.
I'm just gonna keep it real. What why Why announced
that before he has his physical like seriously, like, like.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You retire when you coming back?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
They posted it too, like on their page there's a
picture him in a tunnel.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
All I'm saying is, hey, come in. Let's get the physical,
let's get everything straight. And then we announced it. Everybody's
excited like they they they they messed up because they
jumped the gun and you already know that the guy retired.
And then you got to make sure you know it
ain't like, oh, you're coming back, Okay, you're on the team.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
No, this is a physical. There's stuff, There's a lot
to go through. So guess who welcomed them back? The
Lions could have welcome back Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson,
come on back to the retire when I still have
something left in the tank?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Club Mega Trons to come on over here.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
There's me and you and Barry's great greats who still
has something left in the tank.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
But we got out Lion. We tied of the Lions,
all right?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox? Is it time
for the Stealers to move on from Mike Tomlin? I mean,
Kelvin and I don't agree on much, but we agree
on this other thing going to the super Bowl? And
I'm serious other thing going to the super Bowl. I've
had enough, I've seen enough. I think it's just time
for a fresh voice. What would it take for you
if they get to the.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, they gotta get you.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
So they gotta get they have to make a deep
playoff run and look like, oh they can be something
like we if you get.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
To the super Bowl, though, I mean I think that
that's not enough. If they get to the super Bowl,
they can't fire coach of.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Is it a giant super Bowl though? You know where
it's look like how we've struggled to get in. You know,
it might not be good next to you get to
the super Bowl. I don't know who I want to
begg it were going somewhere.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You want a Rex Grossman's super Bowl, Like, yeah, I
don't want that. We're like, yea, how do we get here?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And we don't never hear from all the lines would
take that because they still haven't gotten Hey, hey, oh
I'm sorry you're going there Thursday. We'll continue to cut camera.
All right, we'll try boom. What do you get if
you look at this man? Okay, they can boom be
boom and then come to my barber shop.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Okay, get a head.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
That's right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight
seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Now we'll continue that conversation next with you.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
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(17:57):
con calming away, rob g You you read a few of
those throughout the day as well. All right, we're talking
about the Steelers. Is the time to move on from
Mike Tomlin? As long as he finished five hundred? You
okay with him?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Stay?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
What's the barometer? Does he have to win a champions
super Bowl? Get to the super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine? On Fox?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Let's go to Adam and Andy. Adam, you were on
with the Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio. What's up Adam?
Speaker 8 (18:20):
Hey, what's so? Guys? Uh? Yeah, I mean I like
Tomlin as a coach, but it's like who they pick up?
Like you just you see these teams that let these
coaches go that were like good coaches, but it was
like they need a fresh start and then they just
don't ever go back up like.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
You're saying.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
You're saying if they let him go, but who would
they bring in.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Yeah, who would they bring in because like I think
like he just needs to like change his ways a
little bit like he sees I don't know, like with
Chris Baward, like he had a way that he always
did it. I mean, we're still waiting on the Colts
to do something with it. But they made that big
trade with Sastcard and it's like it seems like did they.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Change their quarterback? Oh, I'm sorry, yo, Well, I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
I'm just saying like what you're saying, like, well, they
got rid of Pickings, Like I get it. He's like,
you know, one hundred percent like crash out type player.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
But he's been balling he I mean, but yeah, but
in Pittsburgh, Yeah, he's trying to get paid.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
But he was a headache in Pittsburgh. Didn't get they
didn't get rid of him because of his talent.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
It's always like they're guys like that who and and
sometimes it takes moving off from them for them to
for the light to turn on. You know, it happens
eighty seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Dan in Kansas City,
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
What's up, Dan?
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Hey, Roby Kelvin, how you doing? Like two objections? I mean, first,
the Chiefs are going to go eleven and six? And
second wait.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait? What did you
have for Thanksgiving? Eleven and six?
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Well?
Speaker 9 (20:00):
I had turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, tomato.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Come on, you know you don't even you could be
the biggest chief fan Chiefs fan?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You really think they gonna they gonna win every game?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Come?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Have you watched them?
Speaker 9 (20:13):
They have problems on but they can have problems, you know,
just it just takes you no time. You know, I
know they're running out of time, but they.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Can keep hope alive, keep hope alive. Okay, eleven and
six were little on the extreme. Sorry go ahead. Ten
and seven?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
All right?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Maybe maybe something? Is he still there?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
He want to tell you about that. I just want
to tell you about this turkey sandwich and mashed potatoes.
And I see he had one other point.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I was just trying. I just couldn't take the eleven
and six.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Orlando and l Passo, you're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Hey, Beliz.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
It must be devastating to you that the Steelers aren't
do well because of their level firm with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
But I will.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Orlando, this is the last time you're calling. Okay, don't call.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
If you if you really knew anything about me. Seriously,
I just I just want to just give you a lesson.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I just want to know.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I want to give you a lessons. I don't care, Okay,
I don't know. I care about my takes and being right.
I don't lose any sleep if the Steelers don't win
or Aaron Rodgers doesn't play well. I don't know why
I've been doing this job for forty years for zero Orlando.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I'm not a fanboy.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I know there's a lot of guys that you listen
to or read or whatever or watch on team.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm not that guy. Do you think I lose any
sleep over any team losing? Zero, Orlando.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Don't be backing down, Orlando, No, I'm not backing down.
Being honest, I I just don't care what I'm What
I care about is that I picked the Chiefs and
the Lions not to make the playoffs before Orlando tag
me in because he also picked the Steelers to make
the playoffs. He also thank it, Orlando, you had him
(22:23):
on the road. They had me on no rope. You
hit him with a two piece of a biscuit. Come on, Orlando,
these guys, they think they will call up and think
that I care, that I that I really care.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I'm not a fan. I've been doing this for forty
freaking years.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
You know when my fandom stopped when I got a
job as a professional reporter Orlando in nineteen eighty six.
And don't you ever ever think anything otherwise. You've never
seen me wear no players jersey and and all that
stuff and root for anybody.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I don't do that because I don't do that.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's not what I'm meant to I went to Columbia
Journalism School.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
What's your point?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I got to sitting next to you every day right
I started my PhD at NYU. I have a press
box at Southern Connecticut State University?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Whatit mait? What is it? Are you? You didn't just retire?
I don't want your resume. I'm giving my bio. This
is not your Parker reference page. Will ever picked the bio?
Ever call up here with that? Orlando?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
What Orlando was supposed to do with? Stand ten toes down? Orlando,
you let him get you dang all right, speaking to
get you.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Hohospas out on the way.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Uh. We'll talk to NFL headlines with him, including this
when what he thoughts? I obviously was in the same
division as Mike Tomlin for years. Get his thoughts on
that right now, Steve the saga, Hey, Steve.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
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Speaker 4 (23:55):
Steve, thank you so much, appreciate it. I couple Rod
Parker kelvin Washington on a magic any Monday coming up.
We're gonna talk a little bit about Shador Sanders, how
he played on and off the field. We're talking about
that a little bit right now.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I'm with Judge Judy.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Well, I want to be with Judge you he making
forty five fifty million years at ninety seven years old.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Housmizata a former Pro Bowl wide receiver, co host of
Up on Game on Fox Sports Radio, and has the
best ponytail in the game.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
My dog, Who's what up man? Who's How long have
you had that ponytail? How long is your hair? Have
you ever cut your hair that man?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Yeah, trimm trimman, No, but I mean cutting.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Have you ever like?
Speaker 6 (24:35):
No? No, no, I haven't had a hair cut since
probably nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It started with a nineteen serious twenty six years.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Yeah. I started growing in when I was in junior college.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
What's the reason, you, Samson?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
What is it?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Nah? Man? I just I didn't have nobody really to
cut my hair. And when I first started putting in
the pony's, I use have to go home. My mama
would put in the ponytail and I wear a do
rag overnight because I didn't know how to do it myself.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I can't mess this up exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Shoot, all right, let's get to some all the way
turning their hairstyles with Robin Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
All right, there's a there's a few things going on. Yeah,
we could do that. Yeah, we're both on the same page.
We don't agree on a lot. But after this year,
unless they go to the Super Bowl, eighteen years of
Mike Tom and I'm good, I think it's time for
a new voice, just to make a change. They've had
(25:34):
three coaches in fifty four years. I just think it's
tired or stale.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Where are you.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I actually agree that they need to go their separate ways.
And the biggest problem is this. Once they saw Ben
Roethlisberger on the other side, they should have prepared for
that and drafted a quarterback that could have taken over it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But they drafted guys, but none of them weren't good.
They did They.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Were drafting guys in the third round. They weren't drafting
guys to be the air a parent. They were hoping, Okay,
this draft of Mason Rudolph and hope you got a
draft a guy. Very rarely, are you're going to get
a Time Brady really late in the draft, or you
just draft somebody outside the first two rounds that is
a franchise quarterback. That's rare, And so they could have
(26:26):
done it, but you know, they want to draft and
spend all this money on the defensive side of the ball,
and now that defense is giving up over two hundred
yards of game rushing and that's where all your money
is at.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
No doubt, I got to and I want to figure
out and then there. But going into the season, TJ
I predicted the Chiefs and the Lions would not both
make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Where are you on those two teams.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Obviously, the Lions have a huge game against the Cowboys
on Thursday. Where are you on those two teams and
how surprised are you to see them where they are.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
I'm not surprised now. I said this last week or
two weeks ago. I didn't think the Chiefs wouldn't make
the playoffs, but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't.
It's really hard to play at such a high level
year end and year out, win the Vision every single
year because everybody you played they're getting up for you.
(27:24):
It don't matter. Every all seventeen games, your opponent gets
up for you more than they get up for everybody else.
And so for the Chiefs that's hard to do. John
Harball has always been good, I said, John, Jim Harball
has always been very good. In this second year, you
knew what Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos was going
to be really good, and so I just felt like
(27:46):
the Chiefs would win it. And then with the Lions
you lose both coordinators. I assumed it would be a
drop off offensively and the drop office at same players,
they should be a little bit better, but it's just
that timely play calling that they don't have. I still
believe the Lions will make the playoffs, and from the
looks of it, I don't believe the Chiefs will.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, both teams have a shot.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
The Lions a little bit better than the Chiefs, and
a lot of their destiny will be in their hand.
The last game of the season to be against the Bears.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
That will last game, maybe bigger than that before.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I'm saying that. Probably my opinion will be they win,
they can be in. They lose their out. That's how
it is set up. Let's go to some other teams.
We'll see it. TJ.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
They got three really good teams in their way, the
forty nine Ers, who are the.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Three you tell me they got to play? No, who
are ahead of them?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Like the Packers, the forty nine Ers, the Packers in
the division, and the Seahawks like those are the unless
they have a meltdown.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But a lot of those teams.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
The only thing that works in favor of him, A
lot of the teams are playing in the conference, like,
for instance, the Bears played two games they.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Play the Hawks are in. The Seahawks and Rounds are in.
Is can they get ahead of the Niners, right, the
Seahawks and they're in can can they get ahead of
the Niners? And that's possible, Yeah, that's possible if no.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Same Saint Brown the last the next two weeks and
the Lion and the Lions played.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
It's a lot. Yeah, the Lions play the fighting rapping
on Monday night.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Yeah. Man, they trying to take Jackson Dart's head off.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Oh yeah, well, you know what, let's stay there for
a minute. Tej who was out of our guests, former
Pro Bowl receiver of course on with the Akabarab and
Kelvin that they highlighted this previously on Countdown getting ready
to Jackson Dart obviously loving and filling himself and running
and trying to win for his team. They highlighted teacher,
he just runs in and the Robin Ice city here
every week. We're like, man, he's got to learn the slider.
(29:40):
He keeps getting hit and I feel like part of
that hit you just got because guys know you can
hit him. You know he's gonna, you know, try to
take that hit, get that at your yard.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But did you they've made the rule so that you
could slide and avoid that, right, So what do you.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Say to him, Yeah, man, this is mentality. Man. I've
been knowing this kid since he was in high school.
That's his mentality. It wasn't a penalty. He was in bounds.
This to Patrick Mahomes, I'm gonna run down the sideline
and you think I'm gonna step out, and I'm gonna
keep going. So all these dudes are doing. If you're
gonna tiptoe down a sideon, I'm gonna go ahead and
tiptoe you out of bounds, right.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I don't see any problem with it right there. No, No,
he keeps creating guys. No, he's gonna go there for
the extra yard.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
This is a thing, though. They need to be consistent
with this though, because that wasn't an unnecessary rapid. That
wasn't a late hit. But with other quarterbacks, that's your late.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Hit, you said, Patrick Mahomes. I heard you too.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Officials need to be consistent, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I agree with you. I agree, I agree with no doubt.
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Yeah, well soay, yeah, obviously you're watching. This will continue
to keep folks updated. Man, help me out here. You
got a couple of teams, Rob and I gonna talk
about the next hour a little bit. The Bears and
the Broncos both leading and continue on nine to three
winning games. Are you sold on either one of those teams?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
I'm not in it. Hey, you know the bron the
Commanders literally had the game, but at the end of
the day, you got to make the play. It With
the Bears, it's just so weird, like you're like, Okay,
they're gonna lose this game. Oh, Wilson Caleb Williams is
complete less than fifty percent of his passes. Oh, they
(31:16):
run for over two hundred yards. And so at the
end of the day, they're making the plays.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You're only made that play, big touchdown throw.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
That they're making the plays when it's needed. And so
if you look at Kayler Williams, he took the ton
of sacks last year. He's not taking sax last year.
He turned the ball over last year. He's not turning
the ball over this year. And so those two things
that were very glaring, he's corrected them. And so he's
going to have to go into this offseason and say,
(31:47):
I have to be better at my completion percentage. So
I believe he'll hone in on that. But is it
a surprise with the Broncos. No, the Bears are a
huge surprise. They're leading the division right now. If I'm
not mistaken. Are they notnumber one in the ES?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
They are.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
But that win though, right there against the Eagles in Philadelphia,
like everybody was like, oh, well, they got.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
A cupcake schedule.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Here was your game, DJ, that was the game right Philadelphia,
who had just blown a twenty one to nothing lead
to Dallas. They had every reason to come out and
play great at home against the Bears, who people didn't
want to buy into, and it didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
If I'm in Chicago, I feel great.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
The Eagles were on high alert. They ready for that
game considering what you just said, I'm twenty one you
lose to the Cowboys. So that week of practice it
was a point emphasis of we got to make sure
we start fast, but we got to finish stronger because
we started fast last game, we didn't finish it. The
Bears defensively are turning it up. Not like they played
(32:53):
very good on defense. Now is that a lack of
what Philly has on offense? I don't know. But you
got to get a Bears defense under credit and that
offensive line and DeAndre Swift. They went to work because
the Eagles defense, as we know, it's tough to run
on to do anything going almost like we in college football.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yes, on the road in Philly. That was a big win.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
I was shot. Hey, can I ask you all the question?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Are you guys what y'all think about the Lange kissing thing?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well, we talked about it earlier. Uh My thing.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Was you built your program is better than LSU right now,
not a story.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Right now.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
We disagree.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You tell them good and tell them to you.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
We disagree.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I take that job ten times out of ten times.
You ain't winning that old miss, he knows, tell them
you take that job.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Hey, listen, if your kid is getting recruited by LSU,
and no, miss, where you're sending your kids.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Where you're gonna send me to k I'm sending them
ls I'm sorry there you go.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Of course, of course, and they are having they are
having a good season. But at the end of the day,
he's such a great coach, and then he identifies talent
and puts him in the system. LS you is just
a better job.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Don't tell me that, Thank tj Y. He can't get it.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
If he's a great coach. Coach on the ole miss
I agree with you. Stay there and Windy.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, man, you're living in a finas.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
They're gonna win. They just not gonna win at all.
They not beating Ohio State, They're not beating at Georgia.
They that old miss l s U. You can beat
those guys because you're gonna have those type of guys that.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Can do it. Well. He better do it because he
ain't did it yet in about a twenty years career.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I tried to tell him for twenty minutes, and you know,
I just GJ. You're still you won't listen to me
because I didn't play in the NFL. That is why
I listen to you know, he don't want to listen
to what I'm saying. Forget TJ that I've been in
this business for forty years.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
TJ. I'm so tired of hearing that. TJ. That's my
alarm clock. All right, we freeciate you bro, all right, Teller, No, no,
we got more the couple Fox Long Clock. That'll be
a great gut uh.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
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Speaker 1 (35:17):
Gucciek Burt, come on, can we get Christmas back to
where it was? You don't like this, you're here the baltime, Gucci,
he was telling you what was cold? Fox Sports Radio.
It's the odd couple her run DMC's Christmas song. I'm
(35:37):
going we still we still got times. Look another hour.
Mary Mack has locked the lotus. Dang and we got
a whole month rock that's better.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
First got I will touch that seventeen hundred music. I
promise it's okay. No, no, no, no, I agree. Robin
is a classic. We got plenty of time, rob our couple,
Fox Sports Radio. Thank you to t J who was
out our guest who joined us moments ago.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Check out the podcast helped you out. Yeah, ain't no,
I still I still stand on bitness is the one
thing with Kelvin. Whenever the like the guests come on
and he told he get like some traction or whatever
and the NA.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
What's the scoring that like fifty two to two? He's
always like, okay, fifty two to two.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, okay, No, first of all, I'm like this what
I was talking about with Orlando earlier.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I stand on business. I said what I said Orlando. Okay, Oh,
speaking of which, real quick forty ye.
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Speaker 2 (36:38):
Tirack dot comment is the way tied biing should be?
Rob g got some odd mob comments, you tub beans
what we already know.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
This is all about a lot of comments in the
wake of the call with Orlando from our past.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Nobody hick want.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
To hear ro we go, this is totally unrelated. Goddamn,
says Rob. You're definitely a fanboy.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Uh. Polo C says I can't read.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
The first part is inappropriate, but Rob definitely thin skin
fanboy for a rod Rob once said he could drink
Aaron Rodgers bathwater. Of course he's a fan. Rob wears
Kelvin's pj's to bed.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
That's a good one.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
And then Adam Castro says love how we can all agree.
Rob's definitely a fan boy for the Aarons, Rogers.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
And Karen's listen who said that That last.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
One was from what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Adam one of the old time great quarterbacks and a
guy who I said five years ago is going to
is one of the top sluggers in the history to
gain but five.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
Years getting heat because this is about Kelvin is a
voice of the fans and people value is it? Penis
what a lot of people think. But you're going nowhere
with his own misconversation.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I'm listening. I stand on business now.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Two years from now I might be feeling stupid, but
right now I'm standing on business.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
What else come on this morning, Calvin, I want to
hear it all.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
There's another one, Robin on that smokey Robinson right now.
My baby here laughing it up at these two. I'm
glad we can watch him too.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
That's a nice way they ended right there. It was
about more heat on that. I wanted more heat. I
admit my fandom Robin
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