June 21, 2024 • 38 mins
Former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam is in for Rob, and he and Chris discuss which teams make the most sense for LeBron James if he decides to leave the Los Angeles Lakers, tell us why it would be impossible for LeBron and JJ Redick to continue their podcast together and explain why Reggie Jackson’s comments about the atrocities he faced playing baseball in the south during the 1960s absolutely needed to be heard by the masses.
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is the way tirebind should be. We spoke earlier, Ephram
about Lebron and the Lakers, and really we talk more
about who would be kind of the biggest challenger for
the Celtics, particularly in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But I want to talk a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Look, I think, and we brought it up with Yovan Boja.
I think the chances are overwhelming that Lebron James returns
to the Los Angeles Lakers, and a lot of people
you know, probably feel even more convinced that he will
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do that now that JJ Redick is the head coach.
But Lebron, for whatever reason, and I've covered a lot
of his free agencies, he keeps things very close to
the vest. I definitely believe he was not involved in
the Lakers' coaching search. When he's a free agent, he'll
do that. Even if he's staying.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
He kind of just you know, doesn't really get the
team team.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Any hint of what he's doing, and he first, for
whatever reason, he's kept it out there, even when he
was texting with Dan Hurley. When Dan Hurley was, you know,
gonna get an offer from the Lakers, he said, I'm
on board with whatever you want to do if I
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returned to the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So let's just have a little fun.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
We know that Rich Paul, his agent, has come out
and said that Lebron, even if the Phoenix Suns draft Bronnie,
that Lebron will not go to play there for the minimum.
So we can x the Sons out, and I think
we can x out any team where Lebron would have
to either play for the minimum or a lot less
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than the sixty million or so that he can get
from the Lakers per year roughly, so that because the Sons,
if he was gonna play for the minimum, it'd be
hard to find a better situation than Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's close to where he lives.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
In l A, so he would still be close to
his family and you have him as the ball handler
there with Devin Booker, Bradley Beal and Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
What they need.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Work well, they ain't gonna happen, but it will. It
could work because they need a decision maker. That was
their main thing and what is Lebron? But if not
a decision maker.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You can't roll into the season with Devin Booker, Lebron,
James kd and Bradley Beial. Somebody has to go because
it is not going to work. Nobody, nobody on that
team is designed to take three steps back in terms
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of what they bring to the table. I think and
would with Bill Wood, who's gonna come off the bench?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That that's that's for you artists with you, Sev Nurton,
because they can guard, they can all you know, theoretically
they can guard, and Lebron can play a power forward,
particularly in today's even it's not gonna happen. But secondly,
it could like that could work.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
If you're talking about they could guard, now who would
win where I guarded?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Then let's throw them out of the whole contention, because
if they're not gonna guard without Lebron, then they not
even worth talking about. My point is just that he
said he's not going there, and I think if he
was gonna go somewhere for the minimum, Phoenix would be
near the top as far as a good basketball move.
Milwaukee would be good to you know. But but my point,
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it's not gonna happen, So let's look at potential landing spots.
You got Philadelphia, which has cap room to offer him
the max, so that one obviously could happen.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't think there.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I think the next three teams if he were to
really consider things, Miami, but they don't have the trade capitol,
like Miami would have to trade a player Lebron would
want to play with to get it done, so we
can cross them out to me.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
That leaves New York and Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Cleveland has the pieces, Darius Garland. I don't know if
you throw into Jared Allen or whatever, but they could
make an interesting deal and then there's the Knicks and
the Knicks he from one. From let's say first, from
the Lakers standpoint, the Knicks could make an interesting offer.
And I'm not saying that the Lakers would want to
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do it, but if Lebron was.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Like, look, I'm going to New York. Trade me there.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The Knicks could offer Julius Randall and either Josh hart
or Bogne Bogdanovich or Mitchell Robinson, whoever the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Want, whatever type of play they want, and a horde.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Of draft picks, so they could make it a good
deal for the Lakers. For Lebron, you playing with Jalen Brunson.
You've got Ogian Nanobi who they'll bring back in, some
really good role players, Isaiah Hartenstein and others.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And here's the kicker. You're in New York.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Lebron has been, for lack of a better term, a
mercenary throughout his career. He ain't the one that you know,
the Derek Jeter, the Kobe Bryant. One team your whole
career lean into it. In this case, if he could
go to the Knicks and deliver a championship, their first
in fifty two years, he would be a player that
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led four different franchises two championships, and he would have
done it in New York where everything is magnified. And
this is why I'll say Lebron cares about the goat discussion.
If he led the Knicks to the championship, he would
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have all the New York writers and media people and
a lot of the major national ones come from New
York on its side. And you talk about helping his
goat argument, that would be it new York, New York your.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Thoughts, Uh, Yeah, but I don't that's a long way
to a way to go.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I don't think he's doing it.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, But to your point, Yeah, putting him in the
garden with Bronson and the energy that's in that building,
him on the side of the you know, of the
skyscrapers in Times Square, Yeah, we get it. We understand
the mecca of basketball playing in the garden night in
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and night out, and it definitely give them a boost.
And he'll be back in the East, which is, you know,
normally not as competitive as the West. Right. Uh. He
dominated uh in the in the East when he was
playing in that in that conference, not so much here
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on on the West. A little bit more side a
little more talent. O.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
No, look, that's a you bring up an interesting point, because, yeah, Lebron,
part of his claim to fame is getting the ten
straight or ten finals were eight straight. But if he
were in the West, that wouldn't have obviously been the case.
I mean, I guess theoretically you say he got the four. Yeah,
I mean, it's just, uh, it's a different difference different.
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It hits different out here, hit out here, right, Sometimes
you gotta pop out and show.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And so look, Lebron's son Bryce is still in high
school in California, and so his daughter Zouri is out
(09:07):
here one of my friends. You know, they play in
the same volleyball league, right how they're they're about eight yeah, yeah,
you know eight nine. That's he's a family man too now,
and so him spending months, you know, they are already
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traveling on the road a lot, but they come back
home eventually. So in order and unless you're moving home
to New York, you know, do you want to spend
your last final years that much away from your family
and your you know, teenage son who's a dynamic basketball
player and his his own right, is making his way
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to being a dynamic player in high school basketball.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Have you seen much of Bryce?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, he could be telling me he's much bigger.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
He's about what he about six five six five, and he's.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
A he's a junior, so and he's bigger, and you know,
I mean I've heard he's a better prospect than Brian. Well, yeah,
Brownie's six to one, if that, if that, and that's
you know, that's a tough selle in the NBA unless
you have this right, whether it be speed, whether you
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out here freaking you got to have right. Like it's
got to be like, oh, okay, well he's six ft
but it don't even matter, like like how tall is
Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Or you're a straight point guard, right, Jalen's about Yeah,
Jaylen's about that.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Don't matter, right, can't guard him, can't get he can
get you a spot.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Jalen was I mean Briannie, a guy like Jalen should
get Briannie Hope. Well, yeah, Jalen played three years in
college and Jalen wasn't much as first years in the league.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Well, you you got to the college is where you grow.
He didn't, you know, the heart situation that they had
kind of set him back. At See. First of all,
I didn't know why he went to See. They just
don't have a really good basketball program right now. It's
a really good brand, but they don't have a good
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basketball program.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And I thought his.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
For his one and done year, he should have really
went to a program that could have got him, you know,
sharpened his skill set, and it put him in a
position for him to go exhibit that and display that
in March madness where everybody's watching. And he chose a
team that was at the bottom of a really poor
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PAC twelve this year. So and didn't play it right
and you know, average four points a game. I get it.
But look, Lebron James, in my opinion, isn't going anywhere.
He'll opt out, He'll get a two year extension, three
year extends.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I think you're a three year deal.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Right for one hundred and twenty six million dollars whatever
it is. And you know whatever that whatever that number
max that number, yeah, whatever that max number is set. Uh,
he just you know what, he just did a two year,
ninety eight million dollar deal or whatever that was.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So it's I agree with you that he's staying in
LA But go on, it's just fun to look at.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It is to look at the options to what is
yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Let's start out to the listeners eight seven seven ninety
nine or Fox eight seven, seven nine nine six sixty
three sixty nine. Where would you like to see Lebron
James play next year? And what do you think would
be the best option for him even if it's the Lakers?
Your thoughts next? Chris and E from the add Couple
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Speaker 2 (13:39):
All right, it's the I Couple.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Chris Brussar E from salam We Alive from the tiereck
dot Com studies on the funky Flashback Friday, You're turned
away at eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Where's
the best landing spot for Lebron James next season?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
All right, let's go to the calls, Let's go to
Bill and Jacksonville. You're on the eye couple with Ian
and Chris.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
What you got, hey, sous I'd like him to go
to the Mavericks. I think with Luca and Kyrie, he'd
put him right over the top. They need a big guy.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, I mean, he'd be good there. He'd have to,
you know, play for the minimum.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I guess there could be.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
A trade, and I don't think outside of Kyrie and Luca.
I mean, they got some role players, but I don't
think they have the big player that like a Julius
Randall that the Knicks could offer, that the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Would want to do that for.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So look, it'd be it fit, there's no doubt, and
they'd have a good chance of getting the ring. The
thing is too though, obviously Lebron would not be their
top player and maybe not even the second guy, and
so you wonder how that would work.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It is let's go to Bobby and Florida. You on
the ey couple. What'd you got?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
He from Chris where he honored to talk to you today.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Good to have your I think.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
That lebron to just stay where he's that and leave
his kids alone. I think he's setting up Bronnie to
fail because he's not as good as his younger brother,
not as Paul. And I think lebron doesn't do anything
if it doesn't work out for him.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
And I know he's shooting for to be.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
The first father and son to play, I guess, but
he's I wish he would just set his kids go naturally,
and where they wind up, they wind up, and he
won't go and support them.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
When you say setting up Bronnie to fail, now, right now,
it doesn't look like Bronnie's going to be much of
an NBA player, But is he said, I don't know
that he's set up to fail. If he's on the
Lakers roster.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Not playing at all. I mean no, I don't think
anybody's gonna view that as a fail. That's my thing.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I think just getting him in the league and getting
him the experience he needs and seeing if he can
develop into a player. I think that's the goal, right,
maybe maybe not. If you can develop into something, bring
something to the table. His height and size, Uh, that's
difficult for others to emulate. Then he has a shot. Uh,
let's go to Kevin and Culver City. You and on
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couple with Chris and ephrom what you got that's goods.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
All the time I was looking for at the Kenser concert,
I was looking at him. I was looking at all
the big balls by the weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
The weekend, man, that's hell of funny.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
He's in l A. Man, he's a baller. He's a man,
best rider in the town in l A.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I'm telling you right now, I appreciate that. Man.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Oh yeah, you got that. Chris, no going nowhere. The
best deal is the car.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I know he ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
I'm just we're just thinking in l A with a
D and uh. He's not making the new Magic Johnson.
She's leaning on him. And let me tell you what's
really going on. We're trying to figure out how we're
gonna bring to Martin rows in here Compton and keep
him here. He ain't going nowhere either. We're trying to
make it. We're trying to figure out how we can
get them here. That's what's really going on, Damor coming
to LA with the Lakers to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
With a D and figure it out his right, the
wars the rs are straight mid range two point shooter,
and that that be an interesting fit with Lebron and
a D.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah. I take that though. I take that toughness. I
take that that edge that that he has. I need
some of that willing to play through anything and everything.
I want some of that in my life. Let's go
to MJ.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Had that too.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, well he was out of here. He was he
was out of control. He was out of control. You
want to talk about somebody coming in and just tearing
up the flow? Who got one more? Let's go to
MJ in New Orleans. You on the high couple of
Christ and even what you got it's going off?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 6 (18:12):
I'd like to see Lebron at home playing with his
daughter or you know, training his sons and whatnot. Kind
of walthor welcome for me. Uh, Lakers, and now I
don't really think they're gonna get it done like that.
I find the kind of strange that Briani isn't trained
to be you know, for the position that he will
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be in the in the league, you know, point guard
with you know, the training and the facilities and all
the you know, the things that Lebron has at his disposal.
Why would he Well, I'm hearing that he'd have to
come in the league and work with the assistant coaches
to be the player that he hopefully could be in
some years or something. I find that to be kind
of strange, you know, with someone.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Like Lebron, why he's not good enough.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Yet because he's all these because he has the resources
as to where I'm just saying, you would think if
he from your son, if he was, you know, to
come to college or rest your son, and you had
those type of resources, that you would be I'm not
saying you would be like Lebron straight out of high school.
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But I'm just saying that he's not where he needs
to be.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
But I don't think that, I think I hear you.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I don't think that's Lebron's fault. I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I mean, he's obviously you know, but what can Lebron
do about that.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
He's been on the AAU circuit.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I'm sure Lebron's worked with him individually, he's probably had
personal trainers. He played at a great high school. He's
just only six ' one and he's just not quite
not his dad, And the hope is that he can
develop into that. Like he is actually a great high
school player, but he's just not an NBA caliber guy
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right now, and their hope is that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He can get to be that.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
So you're saying they're pushing him into this thing drafted,
and I don't know if they're pushing him.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I think it's Bronnie's dream and lebron is making it
happen and giving him the chance. Like a lot of
look at all the look at who were some of
the assistant's name for uh for for JJ, Rack David Adelman,
How David Alderman get in?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh Rick Adelmans?
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Is that all right?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I mean that's it's nepotism all throughout sports, right, So
this is just I mean, Yan is his brothers on
the Bucks.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Yeah, I don't have I don't have a problem with
on the next I don't have a problem with neoism
at all.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
If you got that power, do it make it happen?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, I mean you know so, And look, if he's
not good enough, he's not gonna play, like, actually be
in the games.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
That would be a bridge too far.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Like if if if Lebron, let's say Broni's on the
team and Brown we're trying to influence JJ to play
him and he's not close to ready, that would be
a problem. But I don't I don't see that happening,
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Speaker 1 (21:23):
It's The I Couple, Chris Brusar e From Salim's in
for Rob Parker. We're live from the tire rack dot
Com studios. E From We talked yesterday. It was it
was going on the Major League Baseball game at Rickwood
Field and it was won by the Cardinal Saint Louis
Cardinals six to five over the San Francisco Giants.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
We talked a.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Lot about, you know how the number of African Americans
playing Major League Baseball has really declined.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Over the years.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But Reggie Jackson, who people might not know he played
in Burning Him Birmingham in the minor leagues in nineteen
sixty seven, and last night on the broadcast, he was
asked about his experience there, what it was like to
be back.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
There, and there was no negative response to him.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I think everybody appreciated his comments on the set, but
I don't think they expected the heat that he gave
them because it was a powerful testimony of what he
had to go through. Unfortunately, when he played in Birmingham,
Alabama in nineteen sixty seven, here's Reggie.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Jackson coming back here is not easy.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
The racism that I played here when I played here,
the difficulty of going through different places where we traveled.
Fortunately I had a manager and I had players on
the team that helped me get through it.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
But I wouldn't wish it on anybody.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
People said to me today I spoke and they said,
you think you're a better person. You think you you
won when you played here and conquered. I said, you know,
I would never wanted to do it. If you want
to do it again. I walked into restaurants and they
would point at me and said, can't eat here. I
would go to a hotel and they said, can't stay here.
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We went to Charlie Finley's country club for a welcome
home dinner, and they pointed me out with the N word.
He can't come in here. Finley marched the whole team out.
Finally they let me in there. He said, we're going
to go to the diner and eat Hamburgers. We'll go
where we're wanting.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
All right, e From powerful words from the legendary Reggie Jackson, what.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Are your thoughts? It was moving, it was, It was
deeply moving. It's almost like people forgot, you know, how
uh how just inhumane it was. That's a great and
exactly what it was. And you know what I mean,
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like and it's it's sad that you know, at time
heals all wounds, but you can't forget. You can't heal
a wound by ignoring it. And I think it was
very poignant. I think, uh it resonated. I think a
lot of people, especially a lot of younger people, not
quite understanding, uh, what these men went through, what they
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had to deal with, just to do something that they loved, right,
just to do something they love. It's hard to comprehend
that these days, especially for our younger generations. But it
was not all cupcakes and rainbows. Man. It was it
was tough, it was aggressive, and it was disgusting and
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just hearing him talk about it and and you know,
it's it's it's miraculous. Man. It was very very touching,
very moving.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And I think, I mean, there was so much such
that was powerful about what he said, and it needed
to be said, as tough as it might be have
been to hear. First of all, Ephraim, this is Reggie Jackson.
It's not Satchel Page. It's not the late great Jackie Robinson,
Satral Page pass Away two, like you know what I mean,
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Like Reggie Jackson didn't play in the late forties, early fifties.
I remember Reggie Jackson's career vividly.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
In his prime.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
He played from well, he was with the Birmingham team
in nineteen.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Sixty seven, right, but he retired that was minors.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
He retired from the Major League baseball in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
He played with Mark McGuire. And I think that was
one of the.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Most stunning things to some people is that we understand,
you know, some of the you know, guys that were
the first African Americans in Major League baseball went through
things like this Reggie Jackson was playing in the seventies
and the eighties, and he went through that what he
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talked about was nineteen sixty seven, but still it was,
you know, obviously close to the seventies. And not only
is Reggie still alive, he's seventy eight years old and
obviously was in good shape.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
But the people that.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Discriminated against him in the ways he described are alive
as well.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And that I thought it was powerful.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
For that reason, also because it showed people because a
lot of our a lot of people in America, particularly
in the South, they get taught a sanitized or really
false version of American history where you know, slave days
and Jim Crow days are sometimes and oftentimes romanticized from
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a white view point. It was the Benevolent Institution and
all that, and this wasn't even slavery, and he was
talking about what he went through. And so I think
it could be a wake up call to some people
who have been taught a wrong version of history, have
been lied to about it, and hopefully it would spark
them to look into the history and get a real,
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a right perspective on that type of American history, and
even ideally sparked them to want to make changes today
because there's still discrimination, there's still racism, and African Americans
are still suffering from the repercussions of the oppression and
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racism and discrimination of the past.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I mean, even my mother grew up in the South,
in Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
She grew up, my mom, it was segregated water fountains
and bathrooms and things like that. My dad went both
of them and went to school in New Orleans and
College Xavier University HBCU. There was a restaurant in the
French Quarter New Orleans, still there to this day.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Called Bruce Ards.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
My dad couldn't go into it because it was segregated, right,
and it was with some white bruce Ars that owned it.
And so this is just my family, you know what
I mean, Like, this is not that long ago. And
I thought that was one of the things that was
most powerful.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Last thing he us.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Well to your point, Michael, parents were born in the forties.
My dad forty one, my dad my mom's forty two.
My mom in Newbery, South Carolina, my dad in Shreveport, Louisiana. Right,
my mother was arrested because her and her friend at fourteen,
fifteen years old, decided they were going to go inside
of the soda fountain and sit at the counter in order,
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and they got harassed and drinks poured on them and
drug out by the police. And yeah, so was.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That a part of like the sit ins or they
just decided to.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
But my parents marched in the civil rights movement and
all of that, Like we're we're like we were raised
with that.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Knowledge, right, right, right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's I mean, we're one generation removed from people that
experienced that, you know, And so yeah, I I hope
it would spark people to really look into the truth
because that's one of the first steps to really improve
in race relations. And right now it's it's very polarizing
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in that regard. And also, you know you heard at
d N. He didn't we didn't hear it on our show,
but on the TV show his actual because we only
played half of what he said. But you know, at
the end he for me said if it wasn't for
his teammates roleygh Fingers and others and his manager who
were able to kind of they obviously supported him, but
(29:59):
also kind to keep him from acting on his feelings
because he said I wanted to and you know what
Reggie Jackson was like, he caught it like it was.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
He was like, I wanted to fight people. I wanted
to knock.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Somebody out, and had I done that, I would I
think he said, I might have been hanging from a
tree somewhere and I might have would have. And so
that also is insight into why Jackie Robinson was the
player that was chosen to integrate Major League Baseball EPHROM
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because the feeling was that he had the demeanor too,
and it was tough on him, right, but he had
the demeanor.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
To endure all of the.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Terrible insults and treatment that he had to go through
in the major leagues and not respond in a violent
way or anything like that. And Reggie or Jackie Robinson
did it, but e f from it probably cost him
his life because Jackie Robinson died very young, and I'm
(31:12):
sure holding in all of that anger and stress and
fear and everything had to play a role.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
He died at fifty three years old.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
And so there's a lot to unpack in that statement
that Reggie Jackson made. I'm so glad he made it,
and that's why I wanted to talk about it tonight
because it was so powerful.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
That's beautifully said, man, seriously beautifully said.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (32:51):
Uh from let's close here, and we just heard I
don't know if you were listening during.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
The break, but Damn Patrick talked about it.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
JJ Reddick, the new coach of the Lakers, and he
brought up the podcast. I have just been under the assumption.
I haven't talked to anybody about it or seen it
written or anything. There's no way they can continue doing
that podcast with Lebron and JJ Reddick.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Oh no, it's over that. That thing said, yeah, yeah,
that podcast has died when he signed that contract. Yeah,
you can't have your player and your coaching and having
the podcast about.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And Rob g we're talking during the break he brought
with Micah and Draymond. I was like, Draymond ain't doing
the podcast with Steve Kirk.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
And nobody right. The coach is the player dynamics. It's
not the friend dynamic, right, Michael, Micah's not doing it right.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Would like if you were another teammate, If you were
a teammate, let's say they did do it like I Derek,
I can't even it would be great for us, Oh,
the viewer, the listeners, it'd be fantastic, But for the team,
I would think from it would be a disaster.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
It is. It would be a disaster. You'd be looking
like really like, what like, what's happening here?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Right right?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Like oh no no no, no, no, no no no no,
that's gone. It worked. Whether it was intended for that
or not, it worked. Is that your I'm just gonna
throw it out there. The podcast with with JJ Redick
and Lebron James was out for two months. Not a
man that the Laker head coach. Okay, I'm just gonna
put it out there. Well, let me ask you.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
This because we talked about this briefly on First Things
First today another show that I haven't been invited to,
but go ahead, told you I'm doing I'm trying. I'm trying, bro. Now,
you gotta be willing to fly across country. I will
fly across Ain't it's sunny out here.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
You gotta do it?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Are you gotta do it? Send the first class ticket,
pay me my TV rate.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
If I'm coming to work and I'll be out there,
you would get paid.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
You would get and I'll be out there for a week.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I'll be out there. I'm not gonna come for one show,
But I'll be out there Monday to Friday, and I'll
put some spice on the show like I do.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
All Right, all right, I will see what I can do.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
I will will I won't hold my breath, I'll tell
you that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
But we talked about look, and this was a question
I asked of me.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I'll give you my answer as well as when I
asked the question, and then you can answer it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
But do I think.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
JJ Reddick would be coach of the Lakers if he
had not done this podcast with Lebron?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Well, I'm gonna say this. You might be right.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
We'll never know, I guess, but JJ Reddick was on
the head.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Coaching radar already.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Remember a year ago he had the interview with Toronto
Messighu Jerry, one of the best gyms in the league,
leads the Raptor, so he brought in JJ for an interview.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
This year, Charlotte interviewed him.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
So my point is, it's not like nobody was thinking
of JJ Reddick as a potential head coach. So that's
why I do actually think it is possible that he
would have been on the Lakers list. And now I look,
knowing he had a podcast with Lebron, even though I
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do believe and we've been told we just had Yovan
bouja on talk about it.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Lebron was involved in it in the coaching search, But
if you're the Lakers, you are looking at and saying,
you know what, Lebron respects this dude's basketball knowledge. Because
it's not just a silly podcast. You know that Ephraim
It is talking about the x's and o's of basketball.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
It is a cerebral podcast.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
So that tells you, at the very least, Lebron respects
the dude.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
He could have got anybody.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
He respects him, and that probably did help, even if
Lebron never really talked to him about it.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Yeah, it look, I'm not questioning his basketball knowledge. And
Pat McAfee said something on this shows like, why is
everybody all you know, dre j Reddick fifteen years in
the league and fourteen of those years that went to
the playoffs, and you know, why are they, you know,
saying that he may not be a good coach. We're
(37:14):
not saying that, We're saying the type of job that
the Lakers head coaching job is. It's different than coming
into the league and being able to grow into a
position when you're not overly qualified in terms of coaching
eighteen or qualified period, right, I.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Mean, and that's not even a slight. It's not a slight.
He's just not so.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
I mean, Pat McAfee took a sort of an offensive
people questioning whether this was a good hire or not.
And if they hired him in Detroit, are in Houston
or whatever, it'd be a different conversation. We talking about
a brand. We're talking about the Lakers, all right, with
a Lebron James and everything that comes with Lebron James,
(37:58):
Anthony Davis and everything to come with the Anthony Davis.
That is a tough job to walk into when you
don't have any coaching experience outside of twelve year olds.
That's why there's the big pushback.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
No, you're you're absolutely right. There's no if saans or
butts about it. And we talked earlier. It just we
were kind of just throwing it out there.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
We done.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Neither one of us expects Lebron to leave, but if
he did, if they traded, say.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
With the Knicks, for you know, traded Lebron in New.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
York, there'd probably be a part of JJ Redding and
I totally understand. I believe he really wants to coach Lebron,
but there might be a part of him that would
be relieved, and it would it might be better for it,
because he wouldn't beat Championship or Bust if he didn't
have Lebron.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
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is the way tirebind should be. We spoke earlier, Ephram
about Lebron and the Lakers, and really we talk more
about who would be kind of the biggest challenger for
the Celtics, particularly in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But I want to talk a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Look, I think, and we brought it up with Yovan Boja.
I think the chances are overwhelming that Lebron James returns
to the Los Angeles Lakers, and a lot of people
you know, probably feel even more convinced that he will
(01:36):
do that now that JJ Redick is the head coach.
But Lebron, for whatever reason, and I've covered a lot
of his free agencies, he keeps things very close to
the vest. I definitely believe he was not involved in
the Lakers' coaching search. When he's a free agent, he'll
do that. Even if he's staying.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
He kind of just you know, doesn't really get the
team team.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Any hint of what he's doing, and he first, for
whatever reason, he's kept it out there, even when he
was texting with Dan Hurley. When Dan Hurley was, you know,
gonna get an offer from the Lakers, he said, I'm
on board with whatever you want to do if I
(02:23):
returned to the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So let's just have a little fun.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
We know that Rich Paul, his agent, has come out
and said that Lebron, even if the Phoenix Suns draft Bronnie,
that Lebron will not go to play there for the minimum.
So we can x the Sons out, and I think
we can x out any team where Lebron would have
to either play for the minimum or a lot less
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than the sixty million or so that he can get
from the Lakers per year roughly, so that because the Sons,
if he was gonna play for the minimum, it'd be
hard to find a better situation than Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's close to where he lives.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
In l A, so he would still be close to
his family and you have him as the ball handler
there with Devin Booker, Bradley Beal and Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
What they need.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Work well, they ain't gonna happen, but it will. It
could work because they need a decision maker. That was
their main thing and what is Lebron? But if not
a decision maker.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You can't roll into the season with Devin Booker, Lebron,
James kd and Bradley Beial. Somebody has to go because
it is not going to work. Nobody, nobody on that
team is designed to take three steps back in terms
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of what they bring to the table. I think and
would with Bill Wood, who's gonna come off the bench?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That that's that's for you artists with you, Sev Nurton,
because they can guard, they can all you know, theoretically
they can guard, and Lebron can play a power forward,
particularly in today's even it's not gonna happen. But secondly,
it could like that could work.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
If you're talking about they could guard, now who would
win where I guarded?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Then let's throw them out of the whole contention, because
if they're not gonna guard without Lebron, then they not
even worth talking about. My point is just that he
said he's not going there, and I think if he
was gonna go somewhere for the minimum, Phoenix would be
near the top as far as a good basketball move.
Milwaukee would be good to you know. But but my point,
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it's not gonna happen, So let's look at potential landing spots.
You got Philadelphia, which has cap room to offer him
the max, so that one obviously could happen.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't think there.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I think the next three teams if he were to
really consider things, Miami, but they don't have the trade capitol,
like Miami would have to trade a player Lebron would
want to play with to get it done, so we
can cross them out to me.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
That leaves New York and Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Cleveland has the pieces, Darius Garland. I don't know if
you throw into Jared Allen or whatever, but they could
make an interesting deal and then there's the Knicks and
the Knicks he from one. From let's say first, from
the Lakers standpoint, the Knicks could make an interesting offer.
And I'm not saying that the Lakers would want to
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do it, but if Lebron was.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Like, look, I'm going to New York. Trade me there.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The Knicks could offer Julius Randall and either Josh hart
or Bogne Bogdanovich or Mitchell Robinson, whoever the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Want, whatever type of play they want, and a horde.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Of draft picks, so they could make it a good
deal for the Lakers. For Lebron, you playing with Jalen Brunson.
You've got Ogian Nanobi who they'll bring back in, some
really good role players, Isaiah Hartenstein and others.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And here's the kicker. You're in New York.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Lebron has been, for lack of a better term, a
mercenary throughout his career. He ain't the one that you know,
the Derek Jeter, the Kobe Bryant. One team your whole
career lean into it. In this case, if he could
go to the Knicks and deliver a championship, their first
in fifty two years, he would be a player that
(06:46):
led four different franchises two championships, and he would have
done it in New York where everything is magnified. And
this is why I'll say Lebron cares about the goat discussion.
If he led the Knicks to the championship, he would
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have all the New York writers and media people and
a lot of the major national ones come from New
York on its side. And you talk about helping his
goat argument, that would be it new York, New York your.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Thoughts, Uh, Yeah, but I don't that's a long way
to a way to go.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I don't think he's doing it.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, But to your point, Yeah, putting him in the
garden with Bronson and the energy that's in that building,
him on the side of the you know, of the
skyscrapers in Times Square, Yeah, we get it. We understand
the mecca of basketball playing in the garden night in
(07:56):
and night out, and it definitely give them a boost.
And he'll be back in the East, which is, you know,
normally not as competitive as the West. Right. Uh. He
dominated uh in the in the East when he was
playing in that in that conference, not so much here
(08:16):
on on the West. A little bit more side a
little more talent. O.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
No, look, that's a you bring up an interesting point, because, yeah, Lebron,
part of his claim to fame is getting the ten
straight or ten finals were eight straight. But if he
were in the West, that wouldn't have obviously been the case.
I mean, I guess theoretically you say he got the four. Yeah,
I mean, it's just, uh, it's a different difference different.
(08:40):
It hits different out here, hit out here, right, Sometimes
you gotta pop out and show.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And so look, Lebron's son Bryce is still in high
school in California, and so his daughter Zouri is out
(09:07):
here one of my friends. You know, they play in
the same volleyball league, right how they're they're about eight yeah, yeah,
you know eight nine. That's he's a family man too now,
and so him spending months, you know, they are already
(09:31):
traveling on the road a lot, but they come back
home eventually. So in order and unless you're moving home
to New York, you know, do you want to spend
your last final years that much away from your family
and your you know, teenage son who's a dynamic basketball
player and his his own right, is making his way
(09:55):
to being a dynamic player in high school basketball.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Have you seen much of Bryce?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, he could be telling me he's much bigger.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
He's about what he about six five six five, and he's.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
A he's a junior, so and he's bigger, and you know,
I mean I've heard he's a better prospect than Brian. Well, yeah,
Brownie's six to one, if that, if that, and that's
you know, that's a tough selle in the NBA unless
you have this right, whether it be speed, whether you
(10:29):
out here freaking you got to have right. Like it's
got to be like, oh, okay, well he's six ft
but it don't even matter, like like how tall is
Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Or you're a straight point guard, right, Jalen's about Yeah,
Jaylen's about that.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Don't matter, right, can't guard him, can't get he can
get you a spot.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Jalen was I mean Briannie, a guy like Jalen should
get Briannie Hope. Well, yeah, Jalen played three years in
college and Jalen wasn't much as first years in the league.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Well, you you got to the college is where you grow.
He didn't, you know, the heart situation that they had
kind of set him back. At See. First of all,
I didn't know why he went to See. They just
don't have a really good basketball program right now. It's
a really good brand, but they don't have a good
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basketball program.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And I thought his.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
For his one and done year, he should have really
went to a program that could have got him, you know,
sharpened his skill set, and it put him in a
position for him to go exhibit that and display that
in March madness where everybody's watching. And he chose a
team that was at the bottom of a really poor
(11:49):
PAC twelve this year. So and didn't play it right
and you know, average four points a game. I get it.
But look, Lebron James, in my opinion, isn't going anywhere.
He'll opt out, He'll get a two year extension, three
year extends.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I think you're a three year deal.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Right for one hundred and twenty six million dollars whatever
it is. And you know whatever that whatever that number
max that number, yeah, whatever that max number is set. Uh,
he just you know what, he just did a two year,
ninety eight million dollar deal or whatever that was.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So it's I agree with you that he's staying in
LA But go on, it's just fun to look at.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It is to look at the options to what is
yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Let's start out to the listeners eight seven seven ninety
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three sixty nine. Where would you like to see Lebron
James play next year? And what do you think would
be the best option for him even if it's the Lakers?
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Chris Brussar E from salam We Alive from the tiereck
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away at eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Where's
the best landing spot for Lebron James next season?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
All right, let's go to the calls, Let's go to
Bill and Jacksonville. You're on the eye couple with Ian
and Chris.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
What you got, hey, sous I'd like him to go
to the Mavericks. I think with Luca and Kyrie, he'd
put him right over the top. They need a big guy.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, I mean, he'd be good there. He'd have to,
you know, play for the minimum.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I guess there could be.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
A trade, and I don't think outside of Kyrie and Luca.
I mean, they got some role players, but I don't
think they have the big player that like a Julius
Randall that the Knicks could offer, that the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Would want to do that for.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So look, it'd be it fit, there's no doubt, and
they'd have a good chance of getting the ring. The
thing is too though, obviously Lebron would not be their
top player and maybe not even the second guy, and
so you wonder how that would work.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It is let's go to Bobby and Florida. You on
the ey couple. What'd you got?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
He from Chris where he honored to talk to you today.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Good to have your I think.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
That lebron to just stay where he's that and leave
his kids alone. I think he's setting up Bronnie to
fail because he's not as good as his younger brother,
not as Paul. And I think lebron doesn't do anything
if it doesn't work out for him.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
And I know he's shooting for to be.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
The first father and son to play, I guess, but
he's I wish he would just set his kids go naturally,
and where they wind up, they wind up, and he
won't go and support them.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
When you say setting up Bronnie to fail, now, right now,
it doesn't look like Bronnie's going to be much of
an NBA player, But is he said, I don't know
that he's set up to fail. If he's on the
Lakers roster.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Not playing at all. I mean no, I don't think
anybody's gonna view that as a fail. That's my thing.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I think just getting him in the league and getting
him the experience he needs and seeing if he can
develop into a player. I think that's the goal, right,
maybe maybe not. If you can develop into something, bring
something to the table. His height and size, Uh, that's
difficult for others to emulate. Then he has a shot. Uh,
let's go to Kevin and Culver City. You and on
(16:31):
couple with Chris and ephrom what you got that's goods.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
All the time I was looking for at the Kenser concert,
I was looking at him. I was looking at all
the big balls by the weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
The weekend, man, that's hell of funny.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
He's in l A. Man, he's a baller. He's a man,
best rider in the town in l A.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I'm telling you right now, I appreciate that. Man.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Oh yeah, you got that. Chris, no going nowhere. The
best deal is the car.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I know he ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
I'm just we're just thinking in l A with a
D and uh. He's not making the new Magic Johnson.
She's leaning on him. And let me tell you what's
really going on. We're trying to figure out how we're
gonna bring to Martin rows in here Compton and keep
him here. He ain't going nowhere either. We're trying to
make it. We're trying to figure out how we can
get them here. That's what's really going on, Damor coming
to LA with the Lakers to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
With a D and figure it out his right, the
wars the rs are straight mid range two point shooter,
and that that be an interesting fit with Lebron and
a D.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah. I take that though. I take that toughness. I
take that that edge that that he has. I need
some of that willing to play through anything and everything.
I want some of that in my life. Let's go
to MJ.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Had that too.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, well he was out of here. He was he
was out of control. He was out of control. You
want to talk about somebody coming in and just tearing
up the flow? Who got one more? Let's go to
MJ in New Orleans. You on the high couple of
Christ and even what you got it's going off?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 6 (18:12):
I'd like to see Lebron at home playing with his
daughter or you know, training his sons and whatnot. Kind
of walthor welcome for me. Uh, Lakers, and now I
don't really think they're gonna get it done like that.
I find the kind of strange that Briani isn't trained
to be you know, for the position that he will
(18:32):
be in the in the league, you know, point guard
with you know, the training and the facilities and all
the you know, the things that Lebron has at his disposal.
Why would he Well, I'm hearing that he'd have to
come in the league and work with the assistant coaches
to be the player that he hopefully could be in
some years or something. I find that to be kind
of strange, you know, with someone.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Like Lebron, why he's not good enough.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Yet because he's all these because he has the resources
as to where I'm just saying, you would think if
he from your son, if he was, you know, to
come to college or rest your son, and you had
those type of resources, that you would be I'm not
saying you would be like Lebron straight out of high school.
(19:19):
But I'm just saying that he's not where he needs
to be.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
But I don't think that, I think I hear you.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I don't think that's Lebron's fault. I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I mean, he's obviously you know, but what can Lebron
do about that.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
He's been on the AAU circuit.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I'm sure Lebron's worked with him individually, he's probably had
personal trainers. He played at a great high school. He's
just only six ' one and he's just not quite
not his dad, And the hope is that he can
develop into that. Like he is actually a great high
school player, but he's just not an NBA caliber guy
(19:59):
right now, and their hope is that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He can get to be that.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
So you're saying they're pushing him into this thing drafted,
and I don't know if they're pushing him.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I think it's Bronnie's dream and lebron is making it
happen and giving him the chance. Like a lot of
look at all the look at who were some of
the assistant's name for uh for for JJ, Rack David Adelman,
How David Alderman get in?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh Rick Adelmans?
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Is that all right?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I mean that's it's nepotism all throughout sports, right, So
this is just I mean, Yan is his brothers on
the Bucks.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Yeah, I don't have I don't have a problem with
on the next I don't have a problem with neoism
at all.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
If you got that power, do it make it happen?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, I mean you know so, And look, if he's
not good enough, he's not gonna play, like, actually be
in the games.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
That would be a bridge too far.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Like if if if Lebron, let's say Broni's on the
team and Brown we're trying to influence JJ to play
him and he's not close to ready, that would be
a problem. But I don't I don't see that happening,
all right, It's The ID Couple Chris and e From.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Chris Brusard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
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Speaker 1 (21:23):
It's The I Couple, Chris Brusar e From Salim's in
for Rob Parker. We're live from the tire rack dot
Com studios. E From We talked yesterday. It was it
was going on the Major League Baseball game at Rickwood
Field and it was won by the Cardinal Saint Louis
Cardinals six to five over the San Francisco Giants.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
We talked a.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Lot about, you know how the number of African Americans
playing Major League Baseball has really declined.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Over the years.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But Reggie Jackson, who people might not know he played
in Burning Him Birmingham in the minor leagues in nineteen
sixty seven, and last night on the broadcast, he was
asked about his experience there, what it was like to
be back.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
There, and there was no negative response to him.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I think everybody appreciated his comments on the set, but
I don't think they expected the heat that he gave
them because it was a powerful testimony of what he
had to go through. Unfortunately, when he played in Birmingham,
Alabama in nineteen sixty seven, here's Reggie.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Jackson coming back here is not easy.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
The racism that I played here when I played here,
the difficulty of going through different places where we traveled.
Fortunately I had a manager and I had players on
the team that helped me get through it.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
But I wouldn't wish it on anybody.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
People said to me today I spoke and they said,
you think you're a better person. You think you you
won when you played here and conquered. I said, you know,
I would never wanted to do it. If you want
to do it again. I walked into restaurants and they
would point at me and said, can't eat here. I
would go to a hotel and they said, can't stay here.
(23:18):
We went to Charlie Finley's country club for a welcome
home dinner, and they pointed me out with the N word.
He can't come in here. Finley marched the whole team out.
Finally they let me in there. He said, we're going
to go to the diner and eat Hamburgers. We'll go
where we're wanting.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
All right, e From powerful words from the legendary Reggie Jackson, what.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Are your thoughts? It was moving, it was, It was
deeply moving. It's almost like people forgot, you know, how
uh how just inhumane it was. That's a great and
exactly what it was. And you know what I mean,
(24:03):
like and it's it's sad that you know, at time
heals all wounds, but you can't forget. You can't heal
a wound by ignoring it. And I think it was
very poignant. I think, uh it resonated. I think a
lot of people, especially a lot of younger people, not
quite understanding, uh, what these men went through, what they
(24:26):
had to deal with, just to do something that they loved, right,
just to do something they love. It's hard to comprehend
that these days, especially for our younger generations. But it
was not all cupcakes and rainbows. Man. It was it
was tough, it was aggressive, and it was disgusting and
(24:46):
just hearing him talk about it and and you know,
it's it's it's miraculous. Man. It was very very touching,
very moving.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And I think, I mean, there was so much such
that was powerful about what he said, and it needed
to be said, as tough as it might be have
been to hear. First of all, Ephraim, this is Reggie Jackson.
It's not Satchel Page. It's not the late great Jackie Robinson,
Satral Page pass Away two, like you know what I mean,
(25:19):
Like Reggie Jackson didn't play in the late forties, early fifties.
I remember Reggie Jackson's career vividly.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
In his prime.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
He played from well, he was with the Birmingham team
in nineteen.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Sixty seven, right, but he retired that was minors.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
He retired from the Major League baseball in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
He played with Mark McGuire. And I think that was
one of the.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Most stunning things to some people is that we understand,
you know, some of the you know, guys that were
the first African Americans in Major League baseball went through
things like this Reggie Jackson was playing in the seventies
and the eighties, and he went through that what he
(26:11):
talked about was nineteen sixty seven, but still it was,
you know, obviously close to the seventies. And not only
is Reggie still alive, he's seventy eight years old and
obviously was in good shape.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
But the people that.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Discriminated against him in the ways he described are alive
as well.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And that I thought it was powerful.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
For that reason, also because it showed people because a
lot of our a lot of people in America, particularly
in the South, they get taught a sanitized or really
false version of American history where you know, slave days
and Jim Crow days are sometimes and oftentimes romanticized from
(26:59):
a white view point. It was the Benevolent Institution and
all that, and this wasn't even slavery, and he was
talking about what he went through. And so I think
it could be a wake up call to some people
who have been taught a wrong version of history, have
been lied to about it, and hopefully it would spark
them to look into the history and get a real,
(27:22):
a right perspective on that type of American history, and
even ideally sparked them to want to make changes today
because there's still discrimination, there's still racism, and African Americans
are still suffering from the repercussions of the oppression and
(27:45):
racism and discrimination of the past.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I mean, even my mother grew up in the South,
in Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
She grew up, my mom, it was segregated water fountains
and bathrooms and things like that. My dad went both
of them and went to school in New Orleans and
College Xavier University HBCU. There was a restaurant in the
French Quarter New Orleans, still there to this day.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Called Bruce Ards.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
My dad couldn't go into it because it was segregated, right,
and it was with some white bruce Ars that owned it.
And so this is just my family, you know what
I mean, Like, this is not that long ago. And
I thought that was one of the things that was
most powerful.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Last thing he us.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Well to your point, Michael, parents were born in the forties.
My dad forty one, my dad my mom's forty two.
My mom in Newbery, South Carolina, my dad in Shreveport, Louisiana. Right,
my mother was arrested because her and her friend at fourteen,
fifteen years old, decided they were going to go inside
of the soda fountain and sit at the counter in order,
(28:52):
and they got harassed and drinks poured on them and
drug out by the police. And yeah, so was.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That a part of like the sit ins or they
just decided to.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
But my parents marched in the civil rights movement and
all of that, Like we're we're like we were raised
with that.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Knowledge, right, right, right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's I mean, we're one generation removed from people that
experienced that, you know, And so yeah, I I hope
it would spark people to really look into the truth
because that's one of the first steps to really improve
in race relations. And right now it's it's very polarizing
(29:36):
in that regard. And also, you know you heard at
d N. He didn't we didn't hear it on our show,
but on the TV show his actual because we only
played half of what he said. But you know, at
the end he for me said if it wasn't for
his teammates roleygh Fingers and others and his manager who
were able to kind of they obviously supported him, but
(29:59):
also kind to keep him from acting on his feelings
because he said I wanted to and you know what
Reggie Jackson was like, he caught it like it was.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
He was like, I wanted to fight people. I wanted
to knock.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Somebody out, and had I done that, I would I
think he said, I might have been hanging from a
tree somewhere and I might have would have. And so
that also is insight into why Jackie Robinson was the
player that was chosen to integrate Major League Baseball EPHROM
(30:33):
because the feeling was that he had the demeanor too,
and it was tough on him, right, but he had
the demeanor.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
To endure all of the.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Terrible insults and treatment that he had to go through
in the major leagues and not respond in a violent
way or anything like that. And Reggie or Jackie Robinson
did it, but e f from it probably cost him
his life because Jackie Robinson died very young, and I'm
(31:12):
sure holding in all of that anger and stress and
fear and everything had to play a role.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
He died at fifty three years old.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
And so there's a lot to unpack in that statement
that Reggie Jackson made. I'm so glad he made it,
and that's why I wanted to talk about it tonight
because it was so powerful.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
That's beautifully said, man, seriously beautifully said.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
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Oh she brings right. Oh she'd be bringing it. Her
prayers schooled her well, because I know these are these
(32:31):
are these are these are my finds.
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My mom grew up on like Bob Marley and like
all the like old school air ub stuff.
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But these are my these are my finds. How you
find all this again?
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Speaker 1 (32:51):
Uh from let's close here, and we just heard I
don't know if you were listening during.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
The break, but Damn Patrick talked about it.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
JJ Reddick, the new coach of the Lakers, and he
brought up the podcast. I have just been under the assumption.
I haven't talked to anybody about it or seen it
written or anything. There's no way they can continue doing
that podcast with Lebron and JJ Reddick.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Oh no, it's over that. That thing said, yeah, yeah,
that podcast has died when he signed that contract. Yeah,
you can't have your player and your coaching and having
the podcast about.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And Rob g we're talking during the break he brought
with Micah and Draymond. I was like, Draymond ain't doing
the podcast with Steve Kirk.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
And nobody right. The coach is the player dynamics. It's
not the friend dynamic, right, Michael, Micah's not doing it right.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Would like if you were another teammate, If you were
a teammate, let's say they did do it like I Derek,
I can't even it would be great for us, Oh,
the viewer, the listeners, it'd be fantastic, But for the team,
I would think from it would be a disaster.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
It is. It would be a disaster. You'd be looking
like really like, what like, what's happening here?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Right right?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Like oh no no no, no, no, no no no no,
that's gone. It worked. Whether it was intended for that
or not, it worked. Is that your I'm just gonna
throw it out there. The podcast with with JJ Redick
and Lebron James was out for two months. Not a
man that the Laker head coach. Okay, I'm just gonna
put it out there. Well, let me ask you.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
This because we talked about this briefly on First Things
First today another show that I haven't been invited to,
but go ahead, told you I'm doing I'm trying. I'm trying, bro. Now,
you gotta be willing to fly across country. I will
fly across Ain't it's sunny out here.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
You gotta do it?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Are you gotta do it? Send the first class ticket,
pay me my TV rate.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
If I'm coming to work and I'll be out there,
you would get paid.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
You would get and I'll be out there for a week.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I'll be out there. I'm not gonna come for one show,
But I'll be out there Monday to Friday, and I'll
put some spice on the show like I do.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
All Right, all right, I will see what I can do.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
I will will I won't hold my breath, I'll tell
you that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
But we talked about look, and this was a question
I asked of me.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I'll give you my answer as well as when I
asked the question, and then you can answer it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
But do I think.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
JJ Reddick would be coach of the Lakers if he
had not done this podcast with Lebron?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Well, I'm gonna say this. You might be right.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
We'll never know, I guess, but JJ Reddick was on
the head.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Coaching radar already.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Remember a year ago he had the interview with Toronto
Messighu Jerry, one of the best gyms in the league,
leads the Raptor, so he brought in JJ for an interview.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
This year, Charlotte interviewed him.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
So my point is, it's not like nobody was thinking
of JJ Reddick as a potential head coach. So that's
why I do actually think it is possible that he
would have been on the Lakers list. And now I look,
knowing he had a podcast with Lebron, even though I
(36:14):
do believe and we've been told we just had Yovan
bouja on talk about it.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Lebron was involved in it in the coaching search, But
if you're the Lakers, you are looking at and saying,
you know what, Lebron respects this dude's basketball knowledge. Because
it's not just a silly podcast. You know that Ephraim
It is talking about the x's and o's of basketball.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
It is a cerebral podcast.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
So that tells you, at the very least, Lebron respects
the dude.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
He could have got anybody.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
He respects him, and that probably did help, even if
Lebron never really talked to him about it.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Yeah, it look, I'm not questioning his basketball knowledge. And
Pat McAfee said something on this shows like, why is
everybody all you know, dre j Reddick fifteen years in
the league and fourteen of those years that went to
the playoffs, and you know, why are they, you know,
saying that he may not be a good coach. We're
(37:14):
not saying that, We're saying the type of job that
the Lakers head coaching job is. It's different than coming
into the league and being able to grow into a
position when you're not overly qualified in terms of coaching
eighteen or qualified period, right, I.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Mean, and that's not even a slight. It's not a slight.
He's just not so.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
I mean, Pat McAfee took a sort of an offensive
people questioning whether this was a good hire or not.
And if they hired him in Detroit, are in Houston
or whatever, it'd be a different conversation. We talking about
a brand. We're talking about the Lakers, all right, with
a Lebron James and everything that comes with Lebron James,
(37:58):
Anthony Davis and everything to come with the Anthony Davis.
That is a tough job to walk into when you
don't have any coaching experience outside of twelve year olds.
That's why there's the big pushback.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
No, you're you're absolutely right. There's no if saans or
butts about it. And we talked earlier. It just we
were kind of just throwing it out there.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
We done.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Neither one of us expects Lebron to leave, but if
he did, if they traded, say.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
With the Knicks, for you know, traded Lebron in New.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
York, there'd probably be a part of JJ Redding and
I totally understand. I believe he really wants to coach Lebron,
but there might be a part of him that would
be relieved, and it would it might be better for it,
because he wouldn't beat Championship or Bust if he didn't
have Lebron.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
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