March 4, 2026 • 38 mins
Sports radio personality Keith McPherson is in for Kelvin, and he and Rob discuss Lou Holtz’ very complicated legacy. Plus, MLB Network analyst and insider Russell Dorsey swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines around the world of baseball.
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didn't get in, and if you're just tuning into the show,
it's been great. Keith McPherson from WFAN in New York
filling in for Kelvin Washington was off for a few
(01:30):
days and Keith, I know, it's a little different when
you're doing your show. You're usually doing five hours by yourself.
What's this feel like a little bit here on Fox
Sports Radio. This is completely different. This feels like a
different sport. This is like, you know, this feels like,
I don't know, a different world.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
It's fun. It's cool that the structure is completely different.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
And obviously, you know, not having to fill all five
hours of my show and even doing a three hour show.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
It's just you and it's different. But I like it,
you know.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
I text you, I'm like, yeah, I appreciate the opportunity
because it's good to see a different side and get
different reps. Shout out to your team guys helping me out,
the producers, Rob. I just I don't know, I'm enjoying
it because it's different out. Yeah, like, I appreciate, you know,
the opportunity to play a different sport, you know, play
a little different game.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
No doubt about it. Glad to have you.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And again you know this, and I've said this to
you off the air personally, even before this opportunity came up.
I think you're super talented and we need young voices
like you in radio. So this to me seemed like
a natural. Once Kelvin was going to have a couple
of days off, so glad to have you. You'll be back
(02:42):
tomorrow for people wondering. So there you go. But let's
go here Solemn news. Today in the college football world,
Rob G. Lou Holtz passed away. It was the eighty nine,
eighty nine years old. Eighty nine years that's a long life.
But whenever you have a long life, you know there's
a situation where you know, the longer you live, the
(03:07):
more things can happen, controversies, things that fill out your
life and make it complicated.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Rob G.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
That is very much true. They're gonna say the same
thing about Rob Parker in a couple of years that rock. Yes,
lou Holt's best known for, you know, leading Notre Dame
to an undefeated season in the eighties national championship team,
third winning his coach in Notre Dame football history and
Notre Dame is you know, one of the all time
great programs in college football history. But as you mentioned,
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he also is not without controversy. There were allegations of
steroid use during some of his programs, allegations of physical
abuse with players. There was in his post playing career
as revered and as much people enjoyed him on television
as an analyst, he was a character. He was very funny,
very entertaining. He also liked to step into the political
(03:55):
and social ring very often. He called immigrants an invasion
of an America. He ripped Colin Kaepernick for kneeling during
the anthem. He supported a politician who was against the
civil rights movement. So there was a very, as you mentioned,
complicated history when it comes to Lou Holtz.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And I'm gonna say this, just gonna keep it real
with you. I can't look past the stuff that Rob
g just mentioned later in his life and just say
while I'm just gonna recognize him as this football coach
who was undefeated, took Neal Dame to a national championship.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I can't when I look at your life, I look
at everything, and I'm not here to just point out
it's not one thing some of the stuff that went
on was just mind boggling to me, especially for a
guy who made a living working off the backs of
some black athletes and minorities and whatnot. It really is
(04:57):
troublesome some of the stuff that Lou Holds was saying
later on his career. We see this happen a lot, Keith,
where guys have this life. They're one way, you know,
when they're coaching or in some other circumstance, they retire,
get older, and they feel like they can do and
say whatever they want, which is their right. But it's
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also my right to look at a person when I'm
looking at their whole life, and I'm never ever because
I don't think anybody else gets treated that way where
you can just pick out the good parts. And when
I thought of Lou Holtz today, it wasn't about him
being a coach of Notre Dame. It wasn't about him
being a witty analyst on television. It wasn't any of that.
(05:41):
It was the later stuff that really bothered me about him,
and questioned how that guy coached football and coached such
a diverse staff and you know what I mean, and
players and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It just it always.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I'm always amazed that people have those kind of thoughts
when they work hand in hand with people who don't
look like them. So today was one of those days.
I'm not here to rain on his you know, death
or anything, but I'm just saying I think that you
have to look at people in totality, and the way
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you go out is often the times the way people
look at you or they remember you. So that's why
you talk about legacy and what people think. For today,
Lou Holtz, I could not think of him as the
football coach. It was the last stuff that really bothered
me about Lou Holtz.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
And that's okay because that's that's his doing. And it's
not like you're kicking dirt on his grave, not alone.
And you know, I'll say this, I immediately thought of
Hulk Hogan, right because when Hulk Hogan passed, I saw
the internet's reaction to that, and a lot of black
folks spoke up to say, hey, like, no rip to him,
no well wishes to him, We're not celebrate and his
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like remember what he said and what he did. Now,
I think you have to be a man of a
certain age to really know Lou Holtz. I just remember
him as college game day and just being like a
dad gummy at old ball coaching, like a real football
guy and an old guy. But being old also isn't
an excuse for any racism. Being old also is an
excuse for any type of discrimination, especially like Rob said,
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when you were coaching and benefiting off of the backs
of black players. So we're in an era now with
social media where everybody has a platform and when anybody
goes it breaks first on social media and the good
can be put out there. But if there was bad,
and people remember the bad, people don't forget that's going
to be right next to it.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
And it's complicated, and we said it his life was
complicated because in the beginning there was a lot of good.
It was a lot of good. And I'm with you
just because you get older, We've seen it. It happened
so many times. People go out and you just go,
why is this hat? Why would you after all this?
But is it I don't know, Keith, is it that
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that's really where they were the whole time? And then
now they just feel like they're bulletproof. I could do
whatever I want. I could say whatever I want. Nobody
can do anything to me. You know what I mean,
I'm an old man. What are you gonna do to me.
You can't fire me, you can't reprimand me. I'm gonna
say what I want. And maybe this is the way
he thought the whole way through. But he needed people,
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He needed the minorities and the black people in order
to win football games and the Winter National Championship and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
It's really not for nothing. You maybe, I said, HAWLK.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
Hogan.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
You're talking about Lou Holtz in that manner made me
think of the President of the United States. He's up
there in agent. He's just a certain kind of way.
You can't change him. He's he's shown who he is
time after time, and it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
But it's not an excuse.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
It's not an excuse.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And I think the whole Cogan one is it a
lot of people.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And you notice we're big Hulk Hogan fans and that
stuff sticks with you. Yeah, and you know we do
what I guess, rob g I'll get you here on this.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Just your thoughts. What did you.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Think of first? Because that's what I really want to
find out. When we talked to a couple listeners. Is
what was your first reaction. Obviously it's sad he passed away,
but did you think of Notre Dame?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Did you think of a TV and analyst?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Did you think of the racist and controversial and stuff
that went on at the end of his life. What
was the first thing that you thought of, Because for me,
it wasn't about him being a coach at Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I gotta admit I didn't think of a Notre Dame either.
As the first thing.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
I thought it was him on television because that's how
I grew up, was watching him on television. And was
he on Game Day or their version of Game Day
at the time on ESPN. I think that's what he
was on, and he was like a character, like he
was just a guy who was kind of funny and
an older dude, and they really lean into the bit.
And then even more recently, this is I didn't even mention
this on the intro, his beef with Ryan Day, Like
(10:03):
Ryan Day was winning national championship at Ohio State and
and lou Holds is taking shots out up through the
media and it's like that That's how I remembered him
and it wasn't until and.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You wondered about that life, like really, like why would
you a coach another coach?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It just seemed weird, didn't it.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Yeah, And so it was just interesting that once he
passed and it it's really telling depending which websites you
go to, like what they're willing to discuss, Like if
you read the ESPN one, it's exceptionally high standards, legendary
coach at Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Do they mention any controversies.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
And you don't really see anything talking about the other stuff.
And then you go to like right, you go you
go to USA Today and it's something different. You go
to News Weekend because maybe ESPN the relationship with him
and his family is probably part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And also they.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Thought about that, but that that that never should be
when when they tell your story, they tell your entire story.
And it doesn't mean that you lead with it. You
know what I'm saying. I get that, I'm not saying
you lead with it. But it's what to only right
positive about somebody or leave out.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
So in the ESPN article, and this is a couple
thousand words, it's buried somewhere like eighty percent in YEP
this is all it says. I'm gonna read it to
you verbatim. Holts went sixty twenty one and two and
seven seas at Arkansas, but he resigned in nineteen eighty
three after coming under fire for filming two television commercials
in his office endorsing conservative North Carolina Center at Jesse Helms.
(11:36):
They became friends while Holts was coaching a NC state. Still,
his success and not their name is what all his
predecessors live up to.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
That's unbelievable, Like like, that's why watching it like his life,
because there's way more. You even talked about the immigration
and what he said about immigrants and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Called it an invasion. An invasion? Is that right? I
thought everybody came from somewhere else in this country.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Yeah, the thought of the free this is supposed to
be where, I don't know, joining the melting pot.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I just I just think there's nothing wrong with looking
at someone's entire life, even in death.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
There's no way you can leave out.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You know, I'm not saying you got to trash the
guy and write some and people do it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You know, I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I saw Jesse Jesse Jackson's when he passed away on
one of these networks, the guy called him, this is
on the day he died, a race pim that can
you imagine, like seriously, like everything he's done, that was
the thing that he led with. But nobody would dare
do that to Lou Holtz and what he said and
the stories that you read. I'm just saying today was
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not today. I thought of Notre Dame football. I thought
of Lou Holtz, the controversial conservative guy who really.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Seemed like a different person to me.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
That that's what I felt like, And I didn't think
about football. I thought about everything other than football when
it came to Lou Holtz. All right, eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox, You want to hear from you?
What's Lou holtz legacy to you? Your individual? What did
you think of when you think of him? Do you
think of the football Notre Dame, the national championship, the
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undefeated team, the funny old guy on television, or the
controversies that followed him in his career?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
What do you think of?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
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an insider. He'll be joining us in about seven or
eight minutes last call as well. But we're talking about
Lou Holtz, and you know, no one's gonna sit here
Keith and just act like everything was great and he
was just a ball coach and that was it. He
left a very complicated legacy, some that people don't like
and some people like. So we want to hear from you.
(15:36):
Where are you on Lou Holtz? Michael in Florida? You're
on the Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
What's up, Michael? How are you sit?
Speaker 10 (15:44):
Eating guys?
Speaker 11 (15:45):
Hey, good topic here. You just brought it up sore
back earlier. The guy supported Jesse Hilmes And for our
younger listeners who don't remember what his platform was, have
him look it up exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And if you were black, Jesse Helms was not your friend.
Speaker 10 (16:03):
Uh yeah, exactly, and then I'll go back. You know,
even in his career, he was a good college game.
Remember he had the bad year with the Jets right
three and ten or something and.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
He wound up quitting yep.
Speaker 10 (16:15):
Yeah, and then you had the Notre Dame Miami game
where the ref got ripped off Miami. I think he
wouldn't even have got that national championships. But going back
to like to say, his character, it's just a judge
of character. I mean, how can you coach chung men
like that and then ride them to your success and
then going anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'm with you, I'm with you, ressing.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
Piece of points. Unfortunately, he was a misguided soul. And
love that you guys brought this topic.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Govern You know what, Michael, We're never afraid to talk
about what's going on.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You know that.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
I like, well, I like to show my brother.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Thank you so much, Michael Daniel in Alabama. You're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Daniel? How
are you?
Speaker 8 (16:59):
What's up?
Speaker 12 (16:59):
Problem? Well?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
How about you doing great?
Speaker 12 (17:02):
Hey man? I just want to say I'm a little disgusted. Honestly,
you guys you've said a few times that you know
you're not looking to dance on the guy's grave. And uh,
you're not saying that articles don't need to lead, that
they need to lead with dancing on the guy's grave
or talking trash about him and all this stuff. You
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guys just spent an entire segment doing nothing but crapping
on the guy.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
No, no, no, we gave the story. We gave the
whole story.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
That's why they write obituaries, Daniel.
Speaker 12 (17:37):
Giving a whole story, that's why they write obituaries.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Did we mention did we mention him that he won
a national championship, that he was twelve?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And oh, we gave you his record. We gave you
that he was a great TV analyst. It was fun.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
We talked about the whole story. What are you talking about?
Go ahead, Daniel, I'm listening.
Speaker 12 (17:59):
So the pop positives are just on the field, right,
But but you got nothing positive to say about him
as a person. It's just you're only going to point
out in the metal things. And by the way, y'all
are talking about your throwing around terms like racism and
stuff like that, it's not controversial to be conservative. I
hate to tell you guys.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Okay, there you go, racism and conservative in the same It's.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Not about just being conservative called what do you call immigrants?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
He called immigrants an invasion? He called he called an invasion.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
He coached black football players and he's went in the
Jesse Helps call because he imagine imagine.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
What we heard. Thank you, Daniel. We wait.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
We let you on, you know why, because we wanted
to hear your opinion. And it's fine, but we did.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
We did.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
You told us that we didn't say anything positive, and
I told you that's not true.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
We mentioned his entire career.
Speaker 12 (18:59):
I know what we said. You're gonna hear it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I know what we said, some.
Speaker 12 (19:03):
Positive things and then an entire segment of shitting on
the guy.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
That's all right. We love to have different points of view.
We don't agree.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
It's okay your guy, right, And I said, I don't
really know all that he said out there, but we
are brothers, right, So what side of the fence do
you think will lean on? We're part of the people
that he disrespected, the people that he benefited from, but
then malign the people that he said stuff again, you
know what I'm saying. So like, obviously we'll talk about
him being a notre dame head coach of South Carolina.
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Even I mentioned I knew him from TV where he
was just old ball coach, Rob g. You cannot omit
the negative. If it made news back then, it is
part of the news today, even though he passed.
Speaker 13 (19:48):
You cannot leave it out, not if you're gonna do
an obituary and talk about his life. Rob G has
and this is just to respond to the callers. There's
obviously nothing wrong with mean conservative. Chris Brussar is famously conservative.
He was on the show for five years. Thank you,
six year the guy six years start, rest in peace,
spaces start. Jesse Helms, the guy that Blu Holtz.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Endorsed as a politician, opposed civil rights, disability rights, hello feminism,
gave rights affirmative action, and opposed the idea of making
him out kJ Holiday.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Thank you, that's the that's the football coach.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
You guys, you gotta tell all the information.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
That's all eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Tim
in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tim?
Speaker 14 (20:31):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 15 (20:32):
Guys? Well, you know I'm from North Carolina. I grew
up in the Jesse Hamm's era. I'll tell you a
story once the US Senator, the first black female centator
from California, Tremonses Bohn said, when she first got to Washington,
she was on the elevator and Jesse Ham stood behind
her and started whistling Dixie. So that was the type
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of man that he was being from North Carolina hadn't
grown up with him. Some people still negotten Michael Jordan.
How he did not endorse Harvey Gant, who could have
been the first black singer took from the state of
North Carolina, because he chose to say Republicans wear his shoes,
and they was like, it was not about that. Michael
is about you.
Speaker 14 (21:11):
You know.
Speaker 15 (21:11):
And he still has not been forgiven in a lot
of areas. But I also say this too, about the whole.
Bobby Bowden is another one who made his living off
a lot of African American players and so many things
he said after he finished coaching football. I just say,
would you have said that when you really needed these
African young men, African American young men to play, would
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you went into those homes and told those grandmothers and
those mothers and fathers But you have said that, then, no,
you would not have, because those kids would not be
playing at those schools. The other guy from Alabama who's
now senator, he's another one. You didn't say these things
because I know good and well that those fans would
not have fit their players to play for that. So
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let's not get it twisted. You take advantage, like the
chief said, you needed these players to play, You needed
because that's how when Alabamicans started taking out black football
players until they got beat by USC the speed and everything.
So let's keep it real. Let's tell I know people
want to white watch the history of this country, but
it's here to say. And Lou Holtes and Bobby Bells
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and all those yeah, they were great coaches, but you
know they made those things. They made those comments when
they left football, and it's a part of their story.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And that's just the way, a part of the story.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Thanks to them appreciate it. And that's all we're talking about.
It's not the entire story, but it's a part of
the story, and we refuse to act like it didn't happen,
because it did happen. All right, let's get you caught up.
Monty Bolanos is here with a update.
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Speaker 2 (22:52):
Thank you Manti a great night.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
We appreciate you too.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah yeah, sorry, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
No doubt appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
It is the couple on a worship Wednesday, Rob Parker,
Keith McPherson in for kelvin Washington, got a few days off.
Keith filling in and not one of my favorite people.
Love seeing him at the ballpark. He does a great
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say hello to Keith McPherson, How are you, Russ?
Speaker 8 (23:24):
What up? Guys? How are we doing?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
George? What up?
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (23:27):
It's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
The three of us are like three of the only
brothers to be on MLB network, never played in the
show that never went pro.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Listen. That is an honor in and of itself, you
know what I mean. Like when you have the brothers
on the network and you didn't lace them up, that
means you're doing something right.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That's rare air, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Let's start with the WBC, which has been a you know,
a good find for Major League baseball numbers are good, crowds,
people are into it.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Is this a.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Japan, the United States, Dominican Republic? What are we what
are we looking at here? Is this Japan's to lose?
Or can the United States win this?
Speaker 8 (24:13):
Look, I think the team that I'm looking at and saying,
if they don't make it to at least the WBC Final,
it's a disappointment, it's the Dominican Republic. And I think
when you look at their lineup, it is as star
studded as.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Any like DTA Tigers, like a drum last night in
the exhibition.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
You know what I mean. I know, I know you
people look at the that team, you'll say and say,
oh my god, they got Judge, you got cayl Raley,
Kyle schwar Over, Bobby I get it. But that Dominican
Republic lineup, if they play like they expect to play,
that's gonna be a tough out, regardless of if it's
a Japan or Team USA that has to go through them.
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That's the team to me that I look at and
I say, this team has the most pressure of any
team in the field, including Japan. That's coming off with
twenty twenty three victory, including Team USA that lost to
Japan in the final. I think the Dominican Republic there's
so much pressure on them, just because from a watching
standpoint as a country, you know, it's a big deal
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over there. Like I have Dominican friends and they tell
me how their families watch WBC when it comes around
every four years, like it's a thing. And they had
a bad showing in twenty twenty three and they're looking
to avenge that this time.
Speaker 12 (25:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Yeah, I mean I remember a big poppy calling them
out saying they weren't ready to go, and they look
ready to go now they're vibing. But when I look
at the Dominican team, obviously they're stacked. Lineup is stacked.
Will they have the pitching this year, because the pitching
is so important. The pitching is what I think loses games. Like,
you know, the United States didn't have enough pitching this year,
like Trek Skubal will only pitch fifty five pitches in
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one game. Do you think that the Dominican this year
has enough pitching to get them through.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
Yeah, Like, I think that's the biggest concern I have
with the United States is that they have you looking
on Paper, right, you have Trek Schoob, we have Paul Skins,
you have Nolan Claim like.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
You have dudes.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
But if Schoolball, who to me is the best pitcher
in the world, is only going to pitch one game,
I don't know if you don't necessarily have enough to
get there. But for me, the Dominican Republican you have
Sandy Alcontada, right, you have him as being, you know,
the guy in that rotation, Brian Bay. You still have
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Luis Severino, like you have legitimate starters. Christopher Sanchez is
going to be the eighth of that staff, and he
was one of the best pitchers in Major League Baseball
last year. I think the Dominican Republic because I think
some of their guys are going to be able to
go longer in some of these games, even though it's
still spring training. Guys don't want to go too long.
I think that is going to be the reason that
I might take them over a team like Team USA.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Our guest is Russell Dorsey.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Of course MLB network analysts insider Russ Let me go here.
You just mentioned school Ball. Will he be traded at
the trade deadline? Because if I'm the Tigers, I don't
know what they're doing. You just talked about it the best,
you said, the best picture on the planet, or at
least one of them. Uh, they probably should just sign
the guy they went to arbitration, took a blood path
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in that.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Does does he get traded if the Tigers are out
of it?
Speaker 12 (27:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Midway through the season.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Here's the thing, Rob, Like, you know the good people
of Detroit. I got a lot of family up there,
and the thing they always say is they want trek
School in Detroit, wearing the old English be long term.
And I think the Tigers would like that. But I
think you've gotten yourself to the point where it's gonna
be very hard to do that without going to the
off season and free agency to do it. But I
(27:44):
don't see it as him being traded anymore, because now
you're here and now there's nobody else to beat. You know,
in the American League Central, they are the team to beat.
And they went and got from Berveldez at the end
of free agency.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
But he looked at I looked at that as the
backup plan to me, like, in case we gotta get
rid of him, we'll have a frontline starter for three years.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
That's how you head if he leaves in free agency
for Rob. If the Tigers aren't the best team in
the American League, Tinchel, something went horribly wrong, Like there's
no reason they shouldn't win the Elkins of this season.
You think Cleveland's better than them, you think the Wilds
are better than them. I don't, no, I.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Get it, but it doesn't always work out like that
in baseball. I hear you, and you would think that
they'd have a good shot at doing that. I do
want to ask you ahead, Keith, you got one? I
got one?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Yeah, yeah, I'll bring it back to the World Baseball Classic. Obviously,
I'm a Yankees fan and a homer, and I think
that this does mean something for Aaron Judge playing in
this tournament as the captain, coming off a postseason where
he actually did show up five hundred critics. He silenced
a lot of critics, but at the same time there's
still people like, oh, he can't give a good hype speech,
(28:58):
like they're critical of it again. And so Russ, do
you think if he goes out there and performs well,
people will get off his back a little bit again.
And then if he wins something, then they can say
he is a champion. I mean, it's not the Yankees.
But if he wins something, they can't say he didn't
win anything in his whole career.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
You know how you lovely folks in New York. You
know that's not gonna happen, right, They're gonna say it
didn't matter because it wasn't gains to counted and it
wasn't for the Yankees. Like it'll be cool to you know,
Like I think for me, some of these moments in WBC, No,
the games don't matter, but people are watching. The world
is watching. Like when show Hay struck out Mike dumb
(29:37):
in the WBC in twenty twenty three, that was an
elite baseball moment and it was to me the coronation
of show Hey is the best player in the world
taking the baton from Mike Trout, who was his teammate
at the time. So yeah, there are great moments that
you can have, and sometimes that launches you into the
season you're about to go into. For a lot of guys.
(29:58):
But no, I think if he USA is able to
win the WBC and Aaron Judge is the MVP of
the tournament, has a great showing, but the Yankees end
up not winning the World Series this year. I don't
think people are gonna be able to say, you know,
the Yankees didn't win the World Series.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
But Aaron Judge, Hey Russ, I'm with you, ain't knowing
and that ain't gonna that ain't gonna fly.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You know it.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Here's another one, No way know how the columns is
for the New York Post who had an issue with
the Yankees retiring CC Sabbathia's number, which I cannot understand.
First of all, CC goes into the Hall of Fame,
first ballot Hall of Fame. How can you be a
first ballot Hall of Fame and not have your number retired?
He won a championship for the Yankees, right He's in
(30:46):
the three thousand strikeout club. He won the ALCS MVP
in two thousand and nine, the last time they won
a World Series. Did that make sense to you?
Speaker 8 (30:56):
No? No, it didn't. But I also know, uh the
columnists who wrote that.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Bill Bushnick say his name, Phil Bushton.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
No, he will not.
Speaker 12 (31:06):
He will not give me the saying same.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
I won't even dignify him by saying his name. I
think it's one of those things that in our business,
you know, you have a lot of reporters that do
great work, a lot of columnists do great work, and
then you have a lot of people that stir things up.
And this is one of those times where somebody stirs
things up and it makes it harder for those of
us who are in the clubhouses every day talking to people,
(31:31):
really telling people what's going on. It's unfortunate, but anybody
who watches baseball knows that c Seed is not only
a first battle for Hall of Famer, but deserves to
get his number retired.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
In New York one.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
And I'm not taking anything away from Paul O'Neill who.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Got his number retire.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
And I know he's a part of four World Series championships,
but he what he's not in the Hall of Fame.
The Hall of Fame supersedes everything I just said. The
like it's lunacy, I don't know, crazy.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
Yeah, but I think it's a multiplayer, right, Like when
you get into Cooperstown that there's there's it's hard to
get in for a reason, like you're in the elite
company and those who have played Major League Baseball and
so yeah, you're gonna get the nod over some people
who are deserving, but you know they're just they're not
Hall of Favors.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
The same guy Phil Muschnick, Like I don't think he
writes so much anymore, Like he's not regularly you know, published,
And I want to say that he wrote an article
when Ricky Henderson passed saying that Ricky Henderson wasn't the
greatest base stealer.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
And it's like, come on, bro, we know what.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You're going for.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
You're going for clicks. You know you're trying to get attention.
Like I can't take you seriously.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
I remember that, no doubt. All Right, Hey, I want
to put you on the spot. I know, I know
the season is about to start. Are you gonna tell
me anybody other than the Dodgers are coming out of
the National League for the World Series.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
They're gonna be a tough right. I know people don't
like hearing that. They're really they were a really good
baseball team, right, And the two weaknesses that they had
corner outfield and a closer, they got both. They got
two of the best guys on the market. You can
make the argument they got the best closer and the
best position player available. This winner in Kyle Tucker and
Edwin Diez. It would be really good. I think the
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one thing that it's always the issue for the Dodgers
when the rubberend meets the road is can they stay
healthy enough to get themselves through the end of October.
That's the big thing, because you're a show Hay injury,
a Blake Snell injury, a Mookie Betts injury away from
saying okay, we really have some problems. So I think
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they have created a lot of depths, especially in that
rotation where you don't need five guys to make thirty starts.
You can probably have six or seven guys make twenty
to fifteen to twenty starts and be okay. But it's
trying to make sure you have the healthiest rotation you
can in October, which they did last year, and that's
how the end of win the World Series.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
All Right, his name is Russell Dorsey.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Check him out MLB Network and listen inside of my man.
We appreciate you, thanks for the knowledge, my brother, We
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Appreciate you guys, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
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Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, you are the last call here on the Couple.
Of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Sean?
Speaker 14 (36:03):
Yeah, oh mygo for but another mother cousin Keith and
my brother's behind the boy, Alex Man. You sounded good
back behind their baby. Hey you stop it, man, look
real talk though, man to that last caller. The reason
why Unk and Keith going on here and don't just
spit it on one side is because of guys like me.
When I think of little holts, I think of like
(36:26):
a football Dick Vitale, a fun loving guy with a
funny lisp. I had no idea he was on that
the other side of the fence. Man for me, a
person of color, a person born to immigrants to be
celebrating the guy's death, who possibly could give two f's
about me? You know what I mean? I need all
the information. It's called journalism.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 14 (36:45):
Listen to the radio, just hearing what you want to hear.
Get it mad because people are spilling the whole thing
out there. Listen to what Unk can keep her saying,
Digest it, and maybe you should change your own opinion
before you start ragging on everybody else. And to be
mad and saying, oh don't, don't, don't put conservatism inside
the same boat. As racism. This is worship Wednesday. The
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X host was one of the biggest conservatives. Thank you
do your homework. And besides all that, the other host
is a Jewish guy. Of course he's conservative. Man, you
got to do your home. A couple of babies, Hank
and Keith Man. What a bang up show.
Speaker 8 (37:21):
Keith with a pin debut.
Speaker 14 (37:22):
Man, y'all keep it up. Can't wait for tomorrow. Brothers.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Thank you, miss Sean. We appreciate that.
Speaker 12 (37:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I know. Keith was like, I don't get these kind
of calls in New York.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
When you're getting these kind of crazy calls, my goodness, gration.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
He cussed. I think we could cuss on here.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
He cuss on air. He was going in.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
He was big mad.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Well, it ain't get on the air for us.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
You know, we're trying to keep off but exactly all that,
uh last thing we wanted to we got.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
We don't have time to get there anyway. No, we're
not going to do that.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
But Keith, we appreciate you coming through, uh filling in
for Alvin Washington again.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Keith will be back for show number two tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I know it's gonna be totally different because now you
got the feel for it right.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
It was so different from what you're used to.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Yeah, it's different. We'll run it back room for improvement.
Shout out to everybody in the chat that we're showing love.
People watch the whole three hours, and I'm excited for tomorrow, man,
because after you do that first, when you get those
first reps, you're ready.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
You're ready to go. I'll be ready, stay ready, so
you don't have to get ready, right.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Keith McPherson, Great job, man, Appreciate you, and the Odd
Couple will return tomorrow. The Jason Smith Show with Mike
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I never miss your radio show.
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and inside of my buddy. He'll join us in about
twenty eight minutes talk some baseball. The World Baseball classes
coming up. Also, we have last call in case you
didn't get in, and if you're just tuning into the show,
it's been great. Keith McPherson from WFAN in New York
filling in for Kelvin Washington was off for a few
(01:30):
days and Keith, I know, it's a little different when
you're doing your show. You're usually doing five hours by yourself.
What's this feel like a little bit here on Fox
Sports Radio. This is completely different. This feels like a
different sport. This is like, you know, this feels like,
I don't know, a different world.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
It's fun. It's cool that the structure is completely different.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
And obviously, you know, not having to fill all five
hours of my show and even doing a three hour show.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
It's just you and it's different. But I like it,
you know.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
I text you, I'm like, yeah, I appreciate the opportunity
because it's good to see a different side and get
different reps. Shout out to your team guys helping me out,
the producers, Rob. I just I don't know, I'm enjoying
it because it's different out. Yeah, like, I appreciate, you know,
the opportunity to play a different sport, you know, play
a little different game.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
No doubt about it. Glad to have you.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And again you know this, and I've said this to
you off the air personally, even before this opportunity came up.
I think you're super talented and we need young voices
like you in radio. So this to me seemed like
a natural. Once Kelvin was going to have a couple
of days off, so glad to have you. You'll be back
(02:42):
tomorrow for people wondering. So there you go. But let's
go here Solemn news. Today in the college football world,
Rob G. Lou Holtz passed away. It was the eighty nine,
eighty nine years old. Eighty nine years that's a long life.
But whenever you have a long life, you know there's
a situation where you know, the longer you live, the
(03:07):
more things can happen, controversies, things that fill out your
life and make it complicated.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Rob G.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
That is very much true. They're gonna say the same
thing about Rob Parker in a couple of years that rock. Yes,
lou Holt's best known for, you know, leading Notre Dame
to an undefeated season in the eighties national championship team,
third winning his coach in Notre Dame football history and
Notre Dame is you know, one of the all time
great programs in college football history. But as you mentioned,
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he also is not without controversy. There were allegations of
steroid use during some of his programs, allegations of physical
abuse with players. There was in his post playing career
as revered and as much people enjoyed him on television
as an analyst, he was a character. He was very funny,
very entertaining. He also liked to step into the political
(03:55):
and social ring very often. He called immigrants an invasion
of an America. He ripped Colin Kaepernick for kneeling during
the anthem. He supported a politician who was against the
civil rights movement. So there was a very, as you mentioned,
complicated history when it comes to Lou Holtz.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And I'm gonna say this, just gonna keep it real
with you. I can't look past the stuff that Rob
g just mentioned later in his life and just say
while I'm just gonna recognize him as this football coach
who was undefeated, took Neal Dame to a national championship.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I can't when I look at your life, I look
at everything, and I'm not here to just point out
it's not one thing some of the stuff that went
on was just mind boggling to me, especially for a
guy who made a living working off the backs of
some black athletes and minorities and whatnot. It really is
(04:57):
troublesome some of the stuff that Lou Holds was saying
later on his career. We see this happen a lot, Keith,
where guys have this life. They're one way, you know,
when they're coaching or in some other circumstance, they retire,
get older, and they feel like they can do and
say whatever they want, which is their right. But it's
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also my right to look at a person when I'm
looking at their whole life, and I'm never ever because
I don't think anybody else gets treated that way where
you can just pick out the good parts. And when
I thought of Lou Holtz today, it wasn't about him
being a coach of Notre Dame. It wasn't about him
being a witty analyst on television. It wasn't any of that.
(05:41):
It was the later stuff that really bothered me about him,
and questioned how that guy coached football and coached such
a diverse staff and you know what I mean, and
players and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It just it always.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I'm always amazed that people have those kind of thoughts
when they work hand in hand with people who don't
look like them. So today was one of those days.
I'm not here to rain on his you know, death
or anything, but I'm just saying I think that you
have to look at people in totality, and the way
(06:20):
you go out is often the times the way people
look at you or they remember you. So that's why
you talk about legacy and what people think. For today,
Lou Holtz, I could not think of him as the
football coach. It was the last stuff that really bothered
me about Lou Holtz.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
And that's okay because that's that's his doing. And it's
not like you're kicking dirt on his grave, not alone.
And you know, I'll say this, I immediately thought of
Hulk Hogan, right because when Hulk Hogan passed, I saw
the internet's reaction to that, and a lot of black
folks spoke up to say, hey, like, no rip to him,
no well wishes to him, We're not celebrate and his
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like remember what he said and what he did. Now,
I think you have to be a man of a
certain age to really know Lou Holtz. I just remember
him as college game day and just being like a
dad gummy at old ball coaching, like a real football
guy and an old guy. But being old also isn't
an excuse for any racism. Being old also is an
excuse for any type of discrimination, especially like Rob said,
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when you were coaching and benefiting off of the backs
of black players. So we're in an era now with
social media where everybody has a platform and when anybody
goes it breaks first on social media and the good
can be put out there. But if there was bad,
and people remember the bad, people don't forget that's going
to be right next to it.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
And it's complicated, and we said it his life was
complicated because in the beginning there was a lot of good.
It was a lot of good. And I'm with you
just because you get older, We've seen it. It happened
so many times. People go out and you just go,
why is this hat? Why would you after all this?
But is it I don't know, Keith, is it that
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that's really where they were the whole time? And then
now they just feel like they're bulletproof. I could do
whatever I want. I could say whatever I want. Nobody
can do anything to me. You know what I mean,
I'm an old man. What are you gonna do to me.
You can't fire me, you can't reprimand me. I'm gonna
say what I want. And maybe this is the way
he thought the whole way through. But he needed people,
(08:29):
He needed the minorities and the black people in order
to win football games and the Winter National Championship and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
It's really not for nothing. You maybe, I said, HAWLK.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
Hogan.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
You're talking about Lou Holtz in that manner made me
think of the President of the United States. He's up
there in agent. He's just a certain kind of way.
You can't change him. He's he's shown who he is
time after time, and it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
But it's not an excuse.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
It's not an excuse.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And I think the whole Cogan one is it a
lot of people.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And you notice we're big Hulk Hogan fans and that
stuff sticks with you. Yeah, and you know we do
what I guess, rob g I'll get you here on this.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Just your thoughts. What did you.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Think of first? Because that's what I really want to
find out. When we talked to a couple listeners. Is
what was your first reaction. Obviously it's sad he passed away,
but did you think of Notre Dame?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Did you think of a TV and analyst?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Did you think of the racist and controversial and stuff
that went on at the end of his life. What
was the first thing that you thought of, Because for me,
it wasn't about him being a coach at Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I gotta admit I didn't think of a Notre Dame either.
As the first thing.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
I thought it was him on television because that's how
I grew up, was watching him on television. And was
he on Game Day or their version of Game Day
at the time on ESPN. I think that's what he
was on, and he was like a character, like he
was just a guy who was kind of funny and
an older dude, and they really lean into the bit.
And then even more recently, this is I didn't even mention
this on the intro, his beef with Ryan Day, Like
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Ryan Day was winning national championship at Ohio State and
and lou Holds is taking shots out up through the
media and it's like that That's how I remembered him
and it wasn't until and.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You wondered about that life, like really, like why would
you a coach another coach?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It just seemed weird, didn't it.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Yeah, And so it was just interesting that once he
passed and it it's really telling depending which websites you
go to, like what they're willing to discuss, Like if
you read the ESPN one, it's exceptionally high standards, legendary
coach at Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Do they mention any controversies.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
And you don't really see anything talking about the other stuff.
And then you go to like right, you go you
go to USA Today and it's something different. You go
to News Weekend because maybe ESPN the relationship with him
and his family is probably part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And also they.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Thought about that, but that that that never should be
when when they tell your story, they tell your entire story.
And it doesn't mean that you lead with it. You
know what I'm saying. I get that, I'm not saying
you lead with it. But it's what to only right
positive about somebody or leave out.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
So in the ESPN article, and this is a couple
thousand words, it's buried somewhere like eighty percent in YEP
this is all it says. I'm gonna read it to
you verbatim. Holts went sixty twenty one and two and
seven seas at Arkansas, but he resigned in nineteen eighty
three after coming under fire for filming two television commercials
in his office endorsing conservative North Carolina Center at Jesse Helms.
(11:36):
They became friends while Holts was coaching a NC state. Still,
his success and not their name is what all his
predecessors live up to.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
That's unbelievable, Like like, that's why watching it like his life,
because there's way more. You even talked about the immigration
and what he said about immigrants and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Called it an invasion. An invasion? Is that right? I
thought everybody came from somewhere else in this country.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Yeah, the thought of the free this is supposed to
be where, I don't know, joining the melting pot.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I just I just think there's nothing wrong with looking
at someone's entire life, even in death.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
There's no way you can leave out.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You know, I'm not saying you got to trash the
guy and write some and people do it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You know, I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I saw Jesse Jesse Jackson's when he passed away on
one of these networks, the guy called him, this is
on the day he died, a race pim that can
you imagine, like seriously, like everything he's done, that was
the thing that he led with. But nobody would dare
do that to Lou Holtz and what he said and
the stories that you read. I'm just saying today was
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not today. I thought of Notre Dame football. I thought
of Lou Holtz, the controversial conservative guy who really.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Seemed like a different person to me.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
That that's what I felt like, And I didn't think
about football. I thought about everything other than football when
it came to Lou Holtz. All right, eight seven seven
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What's Lou holtz legacy to you? Your individual? What did
you think of when you think of him? Do you
think of the football Notre Dame, the national championship, the
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controversies that followed him in his career?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
What do you think of?
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an insider. He'll be joining us in about seven or
eight minutes last call as well. But we're talking about
Lou Holtz, and you know, no one's gonna sit here
Keith and just act like everything was great and he
was just a ball coach and that was it. He
left a very complicated legacy, some that people don't like
and some people like. So we want to hear from you.
(15:36):
Where are you on Lou Holtz? Michael in Florida? You're
on the Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
What's up, Michael? How are you sit?
Speaker 10 (15:44):
Eating guys?
Speaker 11 (15:45):
Hey, good topic here. You just brought it up sore
back earlier. The guy supported Jesse Hilmes And for our
younger listeners who don't remember what his platform was, have
him look it up exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And if you were black, Jesse Helms was not your friend.
Speaker 10 (16:03):
Uh yeah, exactly, and then I'll go back. You know,
even in his career, he was a good college game.
Remember he had the bad year with the Jets right
three and ten or something and.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
He wound up quitting yep.
Speaker 10 (16:15):
Yeah, and then you had the Notre Dame Miami game
where the ref got ripped off Miami. I think he
wouldn't even have got that national championships. But going back
to like to say, his character, it's just a judge
of character. I mean, how can you coach chung men
like that and then ride them to your success and
then going anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'm with you, I'm with you, ressing.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
Piece of points. Unfortunately, he was a misguided soul. And
love that you guys brought this topic.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Govern You know what, Michael, We're never afraid to talk
about what's going on.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You know that.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
I like, well, I like to show my brother.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Thank you so much, Michael Daniel in Alabama. You're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Daniel? How
are you?
Speaker 8 (16:59):
What's up?
Speaker 12 (16:59):
Problem? Well?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
How about you doing great?
Speaker 12 (17:02):
Hey man? I just want to say I'm a little disgusted. Honestly,
you guys you've said a few times that you know
you're not looking to dance on the guy's grave. And uh,
you're not saying that articles don't need to lead, that
they need to lead with dancing on the guy's grave
or talking trash about him and all this stuff. You
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guys just spent an entire segment doing nothing but crapping
on the guy.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
No, no, no, we gave the story. We gave the
whole story.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
That's why they write obituaries, Daniel.
Speaker 12 (17:37):
Giving a whole story, that's why they write obituaries.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Did we mention did we mention him that he won
a national championship, that he was twelve?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And oh, we gave you his record. We gave you
that he was a great TV analyst. It was fun.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
We talked about the whole story. What are you talking about?
Go ahead, Daniel, I'm listening.
Speaker 12 (17:59):
So the pop positives are just on the field, right,
But but you got nothing positive to say about him
as a person. It's just you're only going to point
out in the metal things. And by the way, y'all
are talking about your throwing around terms like racism and
stuff like that, it's not controversial to be conservative. I
hate to tell you guys.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Okay, there you go, racism and conservative in the same It's.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Not about just being conservative called what do you call immigrants?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
He called immigrants an invasion? He called he called an invasion.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
He coached black football players and he's went in the
Jesse Helps call because he imagine imagine.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
What we heard. Thank you, Daniel. We wait.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
We let you on, you know why, because we wanted
to hear your opinion. And it's fine, but we did.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
We did.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
You told us that we didn't say anything positive, and
I told you that's not true.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
We mentioned his entire career.
Speaker 12 (18:59):
I know what we said. You're gonna hear it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I know what we said, some.
Speaker 12 (19:03):
Positive things and then an entire segment of shitting on
the guy.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
That's all right. We love to have different points of view.
We don't agree.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
It's okay your guy, right, And I said, I don't
really know all that he said out there, but we
are brothers, right, So what side of the fence do
you think will lean on? We're part of the people
that he disrespected, the people that he benefited from, but
then malign the people that he said stuff again, you
know what I'm saying. So like, obviously we'll talk about
him being a notre dame head coach of South Carolina.
(19:36):
Even I mentioned I knew him from TV where he
was just old ball coach, Rob g. You cannot omit
the negative. If it made news back then, it is
part of the news today, even though he passed.
Speaker 13 (19:48):
You cannot leave it out, not if you're gonna do
an obituary and talk about his life. Rob G has
and this is just to respond to the callers. There's
obviously nothing wrong with mean conservative. Chris Brussar is famously conservative.
He was on the show for five years. Thank you,
six year the guy six years start, rest in peace,
spaces start. Jesse Helms, the guy that Blu Holtz.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Endorsed as a politician, opposed civil rights, disability rights, hello feminism,
gave rights affirmative action, and opposed the idea of making
him out kJ Holiday.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Thank you, that's the that's the football coach.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
You guys, you gotta tell all the information.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
That's all eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Tim
in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tim?
Speaker 14 (20:31):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 15 (20:32):
Guys? Well, you know I'm from North Carolina. I grew
up in the Jesse Hamm's era. I'll tell you a
story once the US Senator, the first black female centator
from California, Tremonses Bohn said, when she first got to Washington,
she was on the elevator and Jesse Ham stood behind
her and started whistling Dixie. So that was the type
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of man that he was being from North Carolina hadn't
grown up with him. Some people still negotten Michael Jordan.
How he did not endorse Harvey Gant, who could have
been the first black singer took from the state of
North Carolina, because he chose to say Republicans wear his shoes,
and they was like, it was not about that. Michael
is about you.
Speaker 14 (21:11):
You know.
Speaker 15 (21:11):
And he still has not been forgiven in a lot
of areas. But I also say this too, about the whole.
Bobby Bowden is another one who made his living off
a lot of African American players and so many things
he said after he finished coaching football. I just say,
would you have said that when you really needed these
African young men, African American young men to play, would
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you went into those homes and told those grandmothers and
those mothers and fathers But you have said that, then, no,
you would not have, because those kids would not be
playing at those schools. The other guy from Alabama who's
now senator, he's another one. You didn't say these things
because I know good and well that those fans would
not have fit their players to play for that. So
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let's not get it twisted. You take advantage, like the
chief said, you needed these players to play, You needed
because that's how when Alabamicans started taking out black football
players until they got beat by USC the speed and everything.
So let's keep it real. Let's tell I know people
want to white watch the history of this country, but
it's here to say. And Lou Holtes and Bobby Bells
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and all those yeah, they were great coaches, but you
know they made those things. They made those comments when
they left football, and it's a part of their story.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And that's just the way, a part of the story.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Thanks to them appreciate it. And that's all we're talking about.
It's not the entire story, but it's a part of
the story, and we refuse to act like it didn't happen,
because it did happen. All right, let's get you caught up.
Monty Bolanos is here with a update.
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Thank you Manti a great night.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
We appreciate you too.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah yeah, sorry, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
No doubt appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
It is the couple on a worship Wednesday, Rob Parker,
Keith McPherson in for kelvin Washington, got a few days off.
Keith filling in and not one of my favorite people.
Love seeing him at the ballpark. He does a great
job for MOB network and he's an insider. Russell Dorsey
say hello to Keith McPherson, How are you, Russ?
Speaker 8 (23:24):
What up? Guys? How are we doing?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
George? What up?
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (23:27):
It's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
The three of us are like three of the only
brothers to be on MLB network, never played in the
show that never went pro.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Listen. That is an honor in and of itself, you
know what I mean. Like when you have the brothers
on the network and you didn't lace them up, that
means you're doing something right.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That's rare air, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Let's start with the WBC, which has been a you know,
a good find for Major League baseball numbers are good, crowds,
people are into it.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Is this a.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Japan, the United States, Dominican Republic? What are we what
are we looking at here? Is this Japan's to lose?
Or can the United States win this?
Speaker 8 (24:13):
Look, I think the team that I'm looking at and saying,
if they don't make it to at least the WBC Final,
it's a disappointment, it's the Dominican Republic. And I think
when you look at their lineup, it is as star
studded as.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Any like DTA Tigers, like a drum last night in
the exhibition.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
You know what I mean. I know, I know you
people look at the that team, you'll say and say,
oh my god, they got Judge, you got cayl Raley,
Kyle schwar Over, Bobby I get it. But that Dominican
Republic lineup, if they play like they expect to play,
that's gonna be a tough out, regardless of if it's
a Japan or Team USA that has to go through them.
(24:51):
That's the team to me that I look at and
I say, this team has the most pressure of any
team in the field, including Japan. That's coming off with
twenty twenty three victory, including Team USA that lost to
Japan in the final. I think the Dominican Republic there's
so much pressure on them, just because from a watching
standpoint as a country, you know, it's a big deal
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over there. Like I have Dominican friends and they tell
me how their families watch WBC when it comes around
every four years, like it's a thing. And they had
a bad showing in twenty twenty three and they're looking
to avenge that this time.
Speaker 12 (25:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Yeah, I mean I remember a big poppy calling them
out saying they weren't ready to go, and they look
ready to go now they're vibing. But when I look
at the Dominican team, obviously they're stacked. Lineup is stacked.
Will they have the pitching this year, because the pitching
is so important. The pitching is what I think loses games. Like,
you know, the United States didn't have enough pitching this year,
like Trek Skubal will only pitch fifty five pitches in
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one game. Do you think that the Dominican this year
has enough pitching to get them through.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
Yeah, Like, I think that's the biggest concern I have
with the United States is that they have you looking
on Paper, right, you have Trek Schoob, we have Paul Skins,
you have Nolan Claim like.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
You have dudes.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
But if Schoolball, who to me is the best pitcher
in the world, is only going to pitch one game,
I don't know if you don't necessarily have enough to
get there. But for me, the Dominican Republican you have
Sandy Alcontada, right, you have him as being, you know,
the guy in that rotation, Brian Bay. You still have
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Luis Severino, like you have legitimate starters. Christopher Sanchez is
going to be the eighth of that staff, and he
was one of the best pitchers in Major League Baseball
last year. I think the Dominican Republic because I think
some of their guys are going to be able to
go longer in some of these games, even though it's
still spring training. Guys don't want to go too long.
I think that is going to be the reason that
I might take them over a team like Team USA.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Our guest is Russell Dorsey.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Of course MLB network analysts insider Russ Let me go here.
You just mentioned school Ball. Will he be traded at
the trade deadline? Because if I'm the Tigers, I don't
know what they're doing. You just talked about it the best,
you said, the best picture on the planet, or at
least one of them. Uh, they probably should just sign
the guy they went to arbitration, took a blood path
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in that.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Does does he get traded if the Tigers are out
of it?
Speaker 12 (27:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Midway through the season.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Here's the thing, Rob, Like, you know the good people
of Detroit. I got a lot of family up there,
and the thing they always say is they want trek
School in Detroit, wearing the old English be long term.
And I think the Tigers would like that. But I
think you've gotten yourself to the point where it's gonna
be very hard to do that without going to the
off season and free agency to do it. But I
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don't see it as him being traded anymore, because now
you're here and now there's nobody else to beat. You know,
in the American League Central, they are the team to beat.
And they went and got from Berveldez at the end
of free agency.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
But he looked at I looked at that as the
backup plan to me, like, in case we gotta get
rid of him, we'll have a frontline starter for three years.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
That's how you head if he leaves in free agency
for Rob. If the Tigers aren't the best team in
the American League, Tinchel, something went horribly wrong, Like there's
no reason they shouldn't win the Elkins of this season.
You think Cleveland's better than them, you think the Wilds
are better than them. I don't, no, I.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Get it, but it doesn't always work out like that
in baseball. I hear you, and you would think that
they'd have a good shot at doing that. I do
want to ask you ahead, Keith, you got one? I
got one?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Yeah, yeah, I'll bring it back to the World Baseball Classic. Obviously,
I'm a Yankees fan and a homer, and I think
that this does mean something for Aaron Judge playing in
this tournament as the captain, coming off a postseason where
he actually did show up five hundred critics. He silenced
a lot of critics, but at the same time there's
still people like, oh, he can't give a good hype speech,
(28:58):
like they're critical of it again. And so Russ, do
you think if he goes out there and performs well,
people will get off his back a little bit again.
And then if he wins something, then they can say
he is a champion. I mean, it's not the Yankees.
But if he wins something, they can't say he didn't
win anything in his whole career.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
You know how you lovely folks in New York. You
know that's not gonna happen, right, They're gonna say it
didn't matter because it wasn't gains to counted and it
wasn't for the Yankees. Like it'll be cool to you know,
Like I think for me, some of these moments in WBC, No,
the games don't matter, but people are watching. The world
is watching. Like when show Hay struck out Mike dumb
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in the WBC in twenty twenty three, that was an
elite baseball moment and it was to me the coronation
of show Hey is the best player in the world
taking the baton from Mike Trout, who was his teammate
at the time. So yeah, there are great moments that
you can have, and sometimes that launches you into the
season you're about to go into. For a lot of guys.
(29:58):
But no, I think if he USA is able to
win the WBC and Aaron Judge is the MVP of
the tournament, has a great showing, but the Yankees end
up not winning the World Series this year. I don't
think people are gonna be able to say, you know,
the Yankees didn't win the World Series.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
But Aaron Judge, Hey Russ, I'm with you, ain't knowing
and that ain't gonna that ain't gonna fly.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You know it.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Here's another one, No way know how the columns is
for the New York Post who had an issue with
the Yankees retiring CC Sabbathia's number, which I cannot understand.
First of all, CC goes into the Hall of Fame,
first ballot Hall of Fame. How can you be a
first ballot Hall of Fame and not have your number retired?
He won a championship for the Yankees, right He's in
(30:46):
the three thousand strikeout club. He won the ALCS MVP
in two thousand and nine, the last time they won
a World Series. Did that make sense to you?
Speaker 8 (30:56):
No? No, it didn't. But I also know, uh the
columnists who wrote that.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Bill Bushnick say his name, Phil Bushton.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
No, he will not.
Speaker 12 (31:06):
He will not give me the saying same.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
I won't even dignify him by saying his name. I
think it's one of those things that in our business,
you know, you have a lot of reporters that do
great work, a lot of columnists do great work, and
then you have a lot of people that stir things up.
And this is one of those times where somebody stirs
things up and it makes it harder for those of
us who are in the clubhouses every day talking to people,
(31:31):
really telling people what's going on. It's unfortunate, but anybody
who watches baseball knows that c Seed is not only
a first battle for Hall of Famer, but deserves to
get his number retired.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
In New York one.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
And I'm not taking anything away from Paul O'Neill who.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Got his number retire.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
And I know he's a part of four World Series championships,
but he what he's not in the Hall of Fame.
The Hall of Fame supersedes everything I just said. The
like it's lunacy, I don't know, crazy.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
Yeah, but I think it's a multiplayer, right, Like when
you get into Cooperstown that there's there's it's hard to
get in for a reason, like you're in the elite
company and those who have played Major League Baseball and
so yeah, you're gonna get the nod over some people
who are deserving, but you know they're just they're not
Hall of Favors.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
The same guy Phil Muschnick, Like I don't think he
writes so much anymore, Like he's not regularly you know, published,
And I want to say that he wrote an article
when Ricky Henderson passed saying that Ricky Henderson wasn't the
greatest base stealer.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
And it's like, come on, bro, we know what.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You're going for.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
You're going for clicks. You know you're trying to get attention.
Like I can't take you seriously.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
I remember that, no doubt. All Right, Hey, I want
to put you on the spot. I know, I know
the season is about to start. Are you gonna tell
me anybody other than the Dodgers are coming out of
the National League for the World Series.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
They're gonna be a tough right. I know people don't
like hearing that. They're really they were a really good
baseball team, right, And the two weaknesses that they had
corner outfield and a closer, they got both. They got
two of the best guys on the market. You can
make the argument they got the best closer and the
best position player available. This winner in Kyle Tucker and
Edwin Diez. It would be really good. I think the
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one thing that it's always the issue for the Dodgers
when the rubberend meets the road is can they stay
healthy enough to get themselves through the end of October.
That's the big thing, because you're a show Hay injury,
a Blake Snell injury, a Mookie Betts injury away from
saying okay, we really have some problems. So I think
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they have created a lot of depths, especially in that
rotation where you don't need five guys to make thirty starts.
You can probably have six or seven guys make twenty
to fifteen to twenty starts and be okay. But it's
trying to make sure you have the healthiest rotation you
can in October, which they did last year, and that's
how the end of win the World Series.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
All Right, his name is Russell Dorsey.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Check him out MLB Network and listen inside of my man.
We appreciate you, thanks for the knowledge, my brother, We
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Appreciate you guys, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
All Right, last calls coming up here on the odd couple.
If you want to get in and beat the last caller.
You might want to talk about Lou Holtz. You might
want to rip us bring it. You know what you
need to do though, what's up.
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Speaker 4 (34:45):
It's a worship Wednesday here on the Odd Couple. Rob Parker,
Keith McPherson making this national radio debut here on the Couple,
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's why we're gonna be thankful. Here we go, let
it breathe. You got a tea show for me?
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And you know what it is now? Time for last call?
(35:52):
All right, let's call Sewan in Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, you are the last call here on the Couple.
Of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Sean?
Speaker 14 (36:03):
Yeah, oh mygo for but another mother cousin Keith and
my brother's behind the boy, Alex Man. You sounded good
back behind their baby. Hey you stop it, man, look
real talk though, man to that last caller. The reason
why Unk and Keith going on here and don't just
spit it on one side is because of guys like me.
When I think of little holts, I think of like
(36:26):
a football Dick Vitale, a fun loving guy with a
funny lisp. I had no idea he was on that
the other side of the fence. Man for me, a
person of color, a person born to immigrants to be
celebrating the guy's death, who possibly could give two f's
about me? You know what I mean? I need all
the information. It's called journalism.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 14 (36:45):
Listen to the radio, just hearing what you want to hear.
Get it mad because people are spilling the whole thing
out there. Listen to what Unk can keep her saying,
Digest it, and maybe you should change your own opinion
before you start ragging on everybody else. And to be
mad and saying, oh don't, don't, don't put conservatism inside
the same boat. As racism. This is worship Wednesday. The
(37:08):
X host was one of the biggest conservatives. Thank you
do your homework. And besides all that, the other host
is a Jewish guy. Of course he's conservative. Man, you
got to do your home. A couple of babies, Hank
and Keith Man. What a bang up show.
Speaker 8 (37:21):
Keith with a pin debut.
Speaker 14 (37:22):
Man, y'all keep it up. Can't wait for tomorrow. Brothers.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Thank you, miss Sean. We appreciate that.
Speaker 12 (37:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I know. Keith was like, I don't get these kind
of calls in New York.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
When you're getting these kind of crazy calls, my goodness, gration.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
He cussed. I think we could cuss on here.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
He cuss on air. He was going in.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
He was big mad.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Well, it ain't get on the air for us.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
You know, we're trying to keep off but exactly all that,
uh last thing we wanted to we got.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
We don't have time to get there anyway. No, we're
not going to do that.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
But Keith, we appreciate you coming through, uh filling in
for Alvin Washington again.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Keith will be back for show number two tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I know it's gonna be totally different because now you
got the feel for it right.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
It was so different from what you're used to.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Yeah, it's different. We'll run it back room for improvement.
Shout out to everybody in the chat that we're showing love.
People watch the whole three hours, and I'm excited for tomorrow, man,
because after you do that first, when you get those
first reps, you're ready.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
You're ready to go. I'll be ready, stay ready, so
you don't have to get ready, right.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Keith McPherson, Great job, man, Appreciate you, and the Odd
Couple will return tomorrow. The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon is coming up next.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I never miss your radio show.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I never hear it, so I never miss it. Did
you hear that
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