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June 3, 2026 31 mins

Rob and Kelvin provide up-to-the-minute analysis of Game 1 of the NBA Finals between the New York Knicks and the San Antonio Spurs, debut Rob’s extended dance remix of the ‘Everybody Knows It’s Wemby’ song, and tell us why they have a big problem with Nick Saban asking Congress to put a cap on spending in college sports. Plus, MLB Network and FOX Sports Radio MLB insider Jon Morosi swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines around the world of baseball.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(01:22):
But first, just get you caught up on the NBA Finals.
Rob g you want to jump in or.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Twenty two seventeen, San Antonio. The nick started off like
Gangbusters go off to a really hot start. But they've
cooled off considerably, most notably Jalen Brunson short Kings sit
down right now, one for six shooting from the field,
two turnovers already in the first nine minutes of action
for Jaalen.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
But you know what, well, I said this to you,
Kelvin and Rob g like in their last couple they've
made all this like they've been shooting lights out sixty percent,
you know what I mean, like really shooting well. And
obviously it's just early start. But you know what I
like about the Spurs here, they robbed you. You were right,
they got off to a good start. They could have

(02:10):
been like, oh, you know what I mean like.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
Nah, not they this team, I'm with you, they you
know what I mean, Like they're not built like that,
Like they don't even And that's a credit to the Honestly,
I believe this, that is a credit to the Spurs
organization that they know the prototype.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
Of the guy. They like, you know what I mean,
Like we like dogs, we like hard.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
No, they didn't back down, they didn't back down with
the initial nick wave.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
They were making shots all that. They kept going at it.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
They weren't afraid to take their threes whatever they do,
you know what I mean, They just kept playing their
game like that.

Speaker 6 (02:44):
About this group they have like Stefan Castle, obviously he's
a champion in college. Like they got guys rob who
they are the typical like deer in headlights.

Speaker 7 (02:53):
They're like dogs.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
I want to be here, which is why for me,
like I said, normally a young team like this you
might go, oh, it was cute. They got there where
they get what That's why obviously you pick him. A
lot of people pick him. That's why I have at
least going around seven just they ain't that.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
They ain't that team. They ain't that normal young team for.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Sure, no no doubt about it. All right, But as
you know, I am picking uh Wemby's and the Spurs
in six games. And you've been hearing our song, Alice,
you have the little one, the little jingle. So we've
been playing this jingle for a while.

Speaker 7 (03:25):
Does he have the little jingle? We'd have played it
two hundred million.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Worn out, the little we got to jingle, the little one.
Everyone knows it's whims.

Speaker 8 (03:35):
So now we have our day butt, our our day
butt of the Longer, the LP, the EP of the
Wimby's song, and Elijah, we need you to make your
video on music video for this so that we can
get it out there on social media get a million views,
you know, like stuff from the Odd Couple gets a

(03:56):
million views once in a while.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Do you know what I'm saying any other shows, Rob,
I'm just saying. No, I'm just saying, the Odd Couple performs.
All right, here we go, Rob G, real quick, did
you hear it yet? Or you didn't hear it? Okay,
so nobody's heard it except for al to the man.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
Here we go, but.

Speaker 9 (04:25):
Okay, Yeah, who's heading out to the NBA Finals calling
the name that's lighter than air?

Speaker 10 (04:35):
Who's bending down to get into MSG? Everyone knows it's
wim Be, who's tripping down the streets of New York
City smiling at everybody he sees. Who's reaching out to
capture this moment? Everyone knows it's wim Be.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
And when b has.

Speaker 11 (05:03):
Long legs, that handle is no lie.

Speaker 10 (05:09):
And when Be has wings to fly above the crowd,
above the.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Crowd, crowd a crowd.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
Way, Alex.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Awesome, Alex, you did a great job.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
You did it.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Rob, Come on, man, you know what.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
I gotta admit, that's one of your better ones, not bad,
but better ones.

Speaker 7 (05:41):
You The man even did his own background vocals. What
are you? Michael Jackson?

Speaker 4 (05:44):
There we go?

Speaker 7 (05:46):
Yeah, that was as good you Alex. Kudos. I guess
you and Alex are like Michael and Quincy.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
I know, Alex? Can we play with one more time?
One more time?

Speaker 7 (05:58):
About to quit one more time? Robbgy is about to
quit right now, dagging Roby.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Don't quit? We need People are humming in their cards.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Who's heading out to the NBA Finals calling the name
that's lighter than air?

Speaker 10 (06:19):
Who's bending down to get into MSG? Everyone knows it's
whim Be, who's tripping down the streets of New York City.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Smiling at everybody he sees.

Speaker 10 (06:35):
Who's reaching out to capture this moment?

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Everyone knows it's whim B. And when Be has.

Speaker 11 (06:46):
Long legs, that handle is no live And when Be.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Has wings to fly above the crowd, above the.

Speaker 12 (06:59):
Crowd, above the crap about the crowd.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Man, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
I was put you in the first one Robbie, you
were supposed to call the plug.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
Come on, what was you doing in there?

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Rob Gee, don't even reach the floor. You want me
to go and unplug it the court?

Speaker 4 (07:25):
All right? All right, I'm happy with it, very very happy.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
With job that they're a good job man, Good job Elijah.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
I know he's already making a video as we speak.
H R you Elijah? Do I need to text him
and Rob? You inspired the San Antonio Spurs. They're not
twenty to three run right now because he played.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
And Dylan Harper did not get the m O that
he's a rookie.

Speaker 13 (07:47):
Rob.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
This is a different this. We were talking about it, Calvin.
It ain't just a Wimby thing. I mean, it's not
just a Wimby thing. And Wimby's great. This is a
good team.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I'm not listen.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
They they took game one, but I'm just telling you,
this is a good team.

Speaker 7 (08:04):
Yeah, it's going.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
I think it's going and I think it's gonna be
a long game. Obviously it's a long series. One thing
I'll give the Spurs credit for it as well as
an organization, and what they were fortunate was they they
hit on their draft picks and these guys are flourishing.
And now we talk about what the anti tanking rule
now teams, you won't be able to get a top
five pick for three is in a row. And that's
what the Spurs were able to do with Wemby to

(08:27):
then Castle to then uh Dylan Uh Dylan Harper. So
they hit on those and that's playing a key pivotal
role with this team. So they they listen, they got
a squad man, that's for sure, and that's not enough
and going to gainst.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
Shamt pipple as you would call Sam Penney sham sham pipple.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Things have gone bad to worse for the New York
Knicks and mentioned twenty three run Jalen Brunson hobbling headed
to the locker room.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
A player falling, Yeah, I saw that he A player
fell right on his knee.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
Was Harrison Barnes fell into his knee. Jalen brunted hot
in the locker room. Status to be determined.

Speaker 7 (09:03):
Yeah, I'm watching them now showing the replay of it.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
That I don't care if I don't care if you
picked the Spurs in a suite, nobody wants that, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (09:13):
You want to see the best players play nobody.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
Absolutely, man, you So I'm hoping it's just it looked
bad because it went like I'm no doctor. I don't
know if y'a knew that, but it looks like he
hypers you know what I mean, extending because he fell
back on his knee, like he made his knee go back.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
That just yeah, I hope that it's just that makes
the series not fun.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Man.

Speaker 7 (09:32):
You know, everybody's excited.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Remember that we saw somebody else go on and they
came back. Remember then they go out, who was Yeah?

Speaker 6 (09:38):
No, no, no, I hope he gets iced up. They do
a quick mr they shoot him up with the what's
the what's the thing?

Speaker 7 (09:43):
Roger quarter quarter?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
I do want to get to this thing here. Let's
get to this, Rob.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
Don't do that like you didn't play Everybody Loves winby
six times. We played the short person, the EP, the LP,
pick a p don't do.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
That wait for the disco remake. That's right.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
I do want to get here, Robjie. I don't want
to waste any more time.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well I do because of the Nick Saban thing, and
it just makes me throw up in my mouth.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
So I want to get on Nick Saban.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Sure if you've been real busy worrying about the NBA Finals,
as you should be. There were other things that happen
in the world of sports, one of them being that
there was a Congressional I want to call it a hearing,
but a meeting I guess took place earlier today, and
it was all focused around what's going on in the
world of college sports. As you guys know, we talked
about it last week. There is a Protect College Sports

(10:31):
Act that has been presented where they like Congress to
get involved and police the world of college athletics. Today,
Nick Saban met with the Congress.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Here's a snippet.

Speaker 14 (10:41):
Congress does not need to micro manage college athletics. There's
lots of people out there that can help us do that.
Congress does need to fix the mess, and the courts
create a national framework so people inside college sports can
enforce fair rules. Without legal certainty, every rule becomes another lawsuit,
standard becomes another risk, and the system keeps drifting towards

(11:03):
the professional model.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
The last person I want to hear from is Nick Saban.
You mean the guy who quit after he was able
to undermine the system.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
All of his kids had these cars and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
They were like, it wasn't above, it wasn't nil money, Kelvin.
But those players happened to get to be doing pretty
well down there, and he won all his championships. These
guys got some nerve to come in and now they
want to regulate.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
They could have done it in the beginning, Calvin right.
If they would have made the system and cut into
players on all these billions of dollars that they make from.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Television revenue, we wouldn't be here. But they were so damn.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Greedy, and now all the old guard have to show
up and say, stop these guys from making money. Did
in my system? You quit, you walk away, You don't
deserve to have any saying you're not in college football anymore.

(12:09):
Retire already, stay on television. The idea that he's gonna
be the guy to speak up. Where's the provision to stop.
Let's have a profits camp on the NCAA and the colleges.
You can only make six percent on your money. Let's
have a camp and stop these college coaches making gazillion dollars.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
And walking out on the kids up dressed that Nick Saban.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
These kids have been taking advantage of forever with a
crooked system. The NCAA for as long as I've been alive,
has been organized crime, organized crime. You guys work, recollect
the money and you get nothing. God forbid, you get

(13:00):
a free pizza. They threw the kids out of school
Kelvin for getting a free pizza or tattoo or giving
up their warm up jersey. And these guys now talk
about they want the federal government to step in. Poppy Cock,
Boulder Dash. Don't listen to Nick Saban.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
Listen.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
I don't have much to add. We had the same
ideal on this. Ain't that what they call? Ain't that
the pot calling the kettle black? Now, Nick Saban, who
used to sit up there rock what he would have
when he do a press conference a big old coke bottle?
Because you know what Cooke was allowed to give him
all the money. You know what else he was allowed
to do here in the Alabama area, have a bunch

(13:45):
of car dealerships that he owns. He was able to
thrive off all this make millions a punt, not like
a million. I get it, Okay, you gotta get paid
your running up college football pro No, tens of millions
of dollars any way you want endorsements up the wazoo.
Him and Dion Sanders got the half flat commercials. And
now all of a sudden that the kids are getting paid.
And yes, I do believe that they're you know, it's

(14:08):
a little wild right now, and you can kind of
find a way to maybe structure a little bit. But
the idea to act like it's some national emergency and
it's run them.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
Up that we've had a few years of a little chaotic,
got it. It's a little chaotic right now. They're still
trying to find their footing and figure it out.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
But that this would be the guy that's like, yo,
you know, we needed to put a stop to and Rob.
You know what I view it as too, Nick Saban
when of all time greatest coaches of all time. But
you know what I quit it to as well. Nick
Saban quit when everybody was on the same footing Rob, yep,
the minute now that everybody was like, oh bet, so
I can have some donors, I can have some boosters,

(14:45):
pay we can figure out to be a part of
it anymore. Right now he would have maybe gotten smoked
by a Kurt Signetti or something.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Now he's like, oh no, it's getting too hard. I
don't want to do it.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Where I used to have a linebacker for four years
who might only play one because he would just say,
long as I can get that one season under Alabama,
you know what I mean. Now he's like, shoot, I
can go over there to Indiana, I can go to
a Kansas state or whoever's got some money for me.
And so again it's just a different this hip being
the guy to do this. I just have to all people,

(15:16):
of all people, you seem to quit when it got hot,
when everybody else can compete. You seen to taking all
the money, had your Coke sitting right in front of
us every press conference because you were sponsored by coke
and sponsored by this. I just find it, like hold on,
pump through breaks, that this is all of a sudden
the national emergency when you collected tens of millions of
dollars for decades. If the kids are eating a little bit,

(15:39):
let them enjoy. We'll figure it out. But a stop
acting like this the end of the world.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
And Rob, do you have the context of that?

Speaker 5 (15:45):
And I think you guys are spot on, but you
know what, all people and you know what's even more
disgusting about This whole thing is he's promoting the Protect
College Sports Act and they list what it does here.
Number one limits athletes to try and trina schools only
one time without penalty, which some people say, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
I'm cool with that.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Number two limit athlete eligibility to five years. Sure, we
don't want a eight year senior. I understand that part
number three prohibit former professional athletes from playing in college.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
I think we can all agree with that one.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
Number four prohibit schools from getting a coach from another
school during their season. They're called the Lank Giffing rule.
We agree with that. And then they sneak this in
right at the nc These are big four tenants. But
also we want to give the NCAA and the College
Sports Commission legal cover to enforce a spending cap on
how much they can spend an unbelievable so all the
stuff you like. And and by the way, let's just take
this one last win in what cap?

Speaker 4 (16:32):
What cap?

Speaker 8 (16:33):
Is there a cap on how much money you could
charge CBS for March madness?

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Where's the cap?

Speaker 7 (16:39):
Yep?

Speaker 6 (16:40):
And what I call cap on the idea that now
you again you want to have these ceilings When Nick
Saban was setting record rob and most of these states
who look government official or makes the most money coaches
at state university, right, so like there's no cap there
and the players again I'm not I understand if we

(17:02):
want to have some of these conversations and figure some
things out, I'm.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
Not opposed to that.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
But again, the idea acting like it's some oh my gosh,
woe is us the end of the world now, when
again for years that was not the case.

Speaker 7 (17:13):
That's where I have issue.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Rup no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
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Speaker 4 (19:12):
Thirty one twenty eight.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
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Speaker 3 (19:16):
Actually, no, he's the one who pulled the Wenby's shoulder,
didn't he?

Speaker 4 (19:23):
I thought, Rob g when they should it?

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, well, we don't have the sound in the studio,
but we were just assuming that they were going to
get like a flag grant and instead to overturn entirely.

Speaker 7 (19:31):
Thirty one twenty eight, Spurs Up three seven.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
And Jalen Bruns a good news back in the game.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
Okay, good Yeah, I'm gonna say, yeah, we never just
thought it. We don't want that, all right, So let's
get to some calls.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox Nick Saban, Rob
we know we died a couple.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
We agree.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
We agree on this, Nick Saban, pump your breaks, bro,
What do you guys say?

Speaker 7 (19:51):
Eight seven seven ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
On Fox Kevin in Culver City. You're on the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, keV?

Speaker 7 (19:58):
God, it's good all the time?

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Hey man.

Speaker 12 (20:01):
The word of this is hypocrisy. Nick Saban is the
biggest hypocret and his good friend Trump was started weighing
in on college athletics for some reason out of nowhere.
Where do you think that came from? And Nick Saban
has made millions upon millions of dollars off of the
backs of mark Ingram Merrick, Henry, Trent Richardson, Eddie Lacy.

(20:26):
You think if any of those guys ask them for
a dime, he give them money or one hundred thousand dollars.
He's made millions upon millions off the backs of those
college football players, and all of a sudden he wants
to cap on how much a player can make. Made
he killed millions of dollars, Smack Liner. They didn't get
dime Lyndale White. How about these other coaches Urban Minor

(20:48):
with Percy Harvin and Tim Teble made him millions of dollars?
Did they get anything? So give me a break.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
This is a joke.

Speaker 12 (20:57):
You know. The players need to make money too, just
as much the coaches make money. And until they get
back their millions, stop telling how much money players can make.
Like marsham Lynch made Jeff Tefford all that money. Stop
pocket watching and worry about your own finances. Nick Saban
needs to go somewhere to sit down. He's trying to football.
What's he trying to way back in and way back
in and for That's what gets me about Nick, no

(21:19):
doubt about trying to take other players money.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
I appreciate, appreciate that. Dwight in Kentucky, you're in the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Dwight?

Speaker 16 (21:29):
What's up? And what's happening in mister Washington, mister Parker.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
How are you good?

Speaker 16 (21:33):
I'm good. I was just calling, you know. I just
to sing back in the day a little bit myself.
And I just heard the new release of the Whimby song,
and I'm just thinking to myself. You know, back in
the day, I used to wish I could sing. You
know now, Rob, I just wish you good.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Wow, Hey, I'm ader.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
I tried, but it Rob is me picturing you at home,
Alex and Rob Gee just him rewriting it like no, no,
wait no, like twenty five crumpled up little paper balls
and he shot talking about Kobe him say said, wait a,
let me read write now.

Speaker 7 (22:14):
Ah, that's the best part.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
You acting like you John Lennon or something up in there,
like you babyface.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Right, Hey, I was taking it seriously.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
You know that I'm always for I know whenever I'm
trying to make these things happen.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
But I'm very happy with it, very very happy.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
No, dog, that's one of your better ones though. Hey,
all right, thirty two to thirty mins. He's gonna also
give you update on this game and more. Don't forget.
On the other side of what's trending, will have John
Morosi as well joining us, so stick for that, mancios.

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Speaker 6 (22:55):
Rob and Kelvin on a worship Wednesday, Good Game Finals,
Game one the Finals, but right now, joined by John Morosi,
MLB Network and Fox Sports Radio MLB insider John.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
What's going on? How you feeling?

Speaker 4 (23:08):
What's up?

Speaker 13 (23:08):
John?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Dude?

Speaker 13 (23:10):
Great coming around, out standing with what an amazing time
of year. By the way, we got the NBA Finals,
Stanley Cup Final. I'm getting ready for the World Cup two. Obviously.
I love Bajor League Baseball as well. But this is
an amazing time to be a sports fan in the
United States.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
It really is, because so many things are going on
and just can't our eyes are all over the place.
But I do want to start here. We'll get to
the baseball on the field. But John, I don't know.
I mean, I get it. I love the idea that
there's some proposals out there from both sides.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
We're talking a little bit. It's only the first week
in June.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
We're not waiting until the season's over and then the
pressure's on, like, let's get it out there, let's start
talking about stuff. Is this a good sign? Or am
I being too optimistic? I just love the idea that
is a stalemate where we're not hearing anything.

Speaker 13 (24:02):
Well, they're talking, and that's the important thing, but there's
still a lot to talk about. I suppose on some level,
I'll say this, there's always a lot of football analogies
that come into play when you talk about negotiations. Okay,
it's the deal on the ten yard line, the five
yard line. Well, in this case, you got one team

(24:25):
at one goal line saying we want a salary cap,
and the one on the one hundred yards. The way
opposite side of the field saying we're not going to
do that, and that's basically yeah, there are a hundred
yards apart. So it's a long way from now.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
Now.

Speaker 13 (24:40):
Obviously, the things can change over the course of one
phone call. I don't expect that phone call is going
to happen today or tomorrow or next week. But they're talking,
and I do think it's interesting to point out what
the rationale is on each side. For the players, it's

(25:00):
an interesting dilemma because on some level they will want
to say, well, there are four Bears and the people
with the Union and Marvin Miller and Kurt Flood and
Message with McNally and all these all the initial trailblazers
in the baseball labor rights movement, they would never have
wanted a salary cap. And and that's true, of course,

(25:23):
that they never wanted it. But the game has changed
so much, and I think the players in a lot
of ways, it's the onus is going to be on
them to articulate the argument as to why Major League
Baseball has to be different from every single major professional
sport in our country. And the answer can't just be well,

(25:44):
because it's always been this way, they're going to have
to come up with a better reasoning to why it
will work without a salary cap when that has been
the answer for competitive balance and allowing franchises like San Antonio,
like Oklahoma City, like the Green Bay Packers to have
success in different sports.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
But the only issue, though, John and my pushback on
the competitive balance is over the last decade, Baseball's had
way many more champions than the other leagues that have
the salari cap. You know what, So I just don't
think that in the NFL, ask Lions fan, how's the
salari cap working for?

Speaker 4 (26:21):
You?

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Asked the Chicago Bears, who hav been one and along.
I could go on and on and on about all
these teams that haven't won. And it's not a magical lick, sir.
It's just if you have a bad general manager or
you sign the wrong free agents.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Right, does having the same amount of money correct?

Speaker 13 (26:38):
And on some level that has always been the case
in terms of being rewarded for having good management, and
when you don't have good management, you struggle. I do
think it's important to point out for baseball, the last
true true small market team to win in Major League
Baseball was the Royals in twenty fifteen. That's now more

(26:59):
than a decade ago. We've you know, we just saw
this amazing series between Oklahoma City and San Antonio, those
those analogous teams on market size in Major League Baseball.
That they are not getting to the league championship series
and having a great seven game series. That's just that's
where we have not been seeing that.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, but yeah, I hear you, But I just I
don't think it's a magical electure. Even last year, as
much money as the Dodgers spent, Let's be honest, if
the Blue Jays got one blue pit, they would have won.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
The Dodgers, well, don't forget me.

Speaker 7 (27:31):
The Mets.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Spent all the money. What they do exactly, They didn't
even make the postseason.

Speaker 13 (27:38):
But let's be honest about what last year was. Last
year was the second largest market in the United States
with a global megastar against the largest city in Canada,
where the entire country is their local TV market. Check
out how many television and that's old fashion numbers, but
how many viewers are in market viewers for the Toronto

(28:00):
Blue Jays. It is the entire country. Okay, the Jays
are in terms of market size. There are probably only
only the two New York teams, the Dodgers and maybe
the Cubs, that I could argue are truly bigger market
teams than the Toronto Blue Jays.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
Let me go ahead, I'll switch it up a little bit.
We're talking about this earlier Robin I mentioned to Rob,
I said that Braves, how good they look right now?
They're send twenty one to get one games above five hundred. Obviously,
who would you say? If I'm sure Vegas probably has it,
as you know, the Dodgers still to win it all.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
But who's the team?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Give me?

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Give us a couple of teams? You say, hold on,
not so fast, Dodgers look out for fill in the blank.

Speaker 13 (28:44):
Sure the Braves are are a really good answer to that,
because the they have shown and they have had I
think even better rotation depths start to start than what
you've seen from the Dodgers this year. Bryce Elder bounce
it back the way that he has, Chris Sales excellent.
I just think that overall that the Braves have played really,

(29:04):
really well. Michael Harris has had a tremendous season in
center field. I love what Olsen has done over at
first base, even with Drake Balwin missing some time. Obviously,
when healthy, he's been one of the best catchers in
the game. So I think the Braves are they are
that that top team in the National League if it's
not going to be the Dodgers. I think of the
American League side of things, it is wide open. The Rays.

(29:28):
They there's a great, great test for this. If the
Rays and Yankees meeting the postseason, you probably still like
the Yankees, especially now that you've got Garrett coleback in
the mix and ro Don So I just think that
the Yankees in the American League side, someone's gonna have
to tell me and prove to me that there's a better,
deeper team right now than the New York Yankees. On

(29:49):
the American League side of the Ledger with the NL,
you could be convinced that the Brewers. I think they're
a better version of themselves they were a year ago,
and obviously they were no match the Dodgers in the
league championship series. The Padres are still really competitive, even
though Tatis has barely hit. Their farm system is really
thin now the Padres because of the trades they've made

(30:11):
in recent years. So we have to see what aj
brother still has back in the tank to make a
move there. I think the big question now, I would
say Calvin Robbins, is where does Scooble go, assuming he
gets traded, and how does that tip the ballance of power?
You might say, right now, you like the Dodgers, but
if the Cubs all of a sudden get Scooble or

(30:32):
some other teams that are on the American League side
of things get Schooble, it might tip the ballance of
power a little bit away from the Dodgers. And the
other team I'll mention is Seattle on the American League side.
I think for me, they're a team that is going
to get better because they've been able to vault back
in the first place in that division with Cal Rowley
and Brendan Donovan still on the il. Their pitching is

(30:54):
so good, guys, and their bullpen has gotten a lot better.
So I think if we're going to see a none
Dodgers compelling, if we're gonna see a World Series, it's
not Dodgers Yankees, and it's still compelling. I've got Seattle
in Atlanta, all right.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
We've got you. We got you on the record on
that all right, job, Well, appreciate you so far.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Let's get them on a record, Don Spurs and Nick,
who you.

Speaker 13 (31:18):
Got, I'm going nixt I just I've got. I feel
like it's their year. I've got so many fans of
the Knicks who are friends of mine, and I feel
as though, and maybe it's a little bit of that
Pistons in me. Right now, I'm saying, Okay, the Knicks
get it this year, and then if the Pistons knock
them off next year and make it to the NBA Finals,

(31:38):
it's gonna be that much sweeter. That's what I got.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
A kind of guy.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
John's been wrong a lot, so that's okay, John, I've been.

Speaker 13 (31:47):
Wrong a lot. The books written about the number of
times I've been wrong. That's all good.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
We'll do it.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Thank you, buddy, Appreciate you.

Speaker 7 (31:54):
I appreciate it as always, make you.

Speaker 13 (31:56):
So much, really enjoyed it. Thank you.
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