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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
That's right, it's me Robert Ghara, Rob g If you're nasty,
sitting alongside former NFL offensive lineman, sitcom writer, film producer
apparently a legendary high school athlete.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
From apparently, and correct banana eater.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yes, if I know, we don't have a camera in
the studio during the commercial breaks, but e from salam
apparently has an issue with is eating bananas.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
What I said is you don't have to.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
You can bite before it touches the back of your throat.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Pause to resume where this is going. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
If people assume no, that's I just right, Like you
shouldn't gag as you're eating a banana like that.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
To me, that's those two things don't go together.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
That was the response for my body saying that's perfect. Okay,
that's all we need.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
You know, I was looking like I want to weigh
in here.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
He's like, I have nothing to say here.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
We go sure for all of us, we can all try,
we can all try.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
No, I know you want a banana? I got bananas.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
No, No, I don't want your banana? Why not?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
No, I'm good. I got a bushel of bananas in here. Well,
you know what a bushel of bananas?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Really? Offer me? A banana? Racist?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
It would be racify offer everybody but you banana. That's
I can't offer.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You when it would be weird. Right.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
It's like, I really want to, but I don't think
I can't. I don't think I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Oh gosh, it is the odd couple. Rob Parker Kevin
Washington both out all this week. They are in hot Atlanta,
Rob Parker getting into all kinds of mischief with twenty
three year olds Pause, both male and female. If you
watch it instant, he does, Hey, man, I didn't follow
Rob on Instagram. I think it's at Rob Parker MLB
bro and my man hangs out with more twenty three
(02:12):
year old men than Pause maving guys in college?
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Dude, where are we going with? Dow?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Does Rob not hang out with young twenty mid twenty
year old man. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
See it's like if you were saying, like, what's his bracket,
it's twenty one to twenty four male.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Lot male up. Usually like that's his demographic. That what's
your demographic?
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Eve from I'm the voice of the people. Wow, which people?
And what do you mean you people?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
What do you mean you people?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
All of them? I said, I didn't say you people,
said the people.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
When you're making hit streaming shows or movies, which age
group are you targeting? Do not say all the people?
Speaker 6 (02:53):
So we don't. We don't target age groups. We target
target the culture. So black people, right, No, the culture, Rob,
I've always been told the culture as black people.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Are you part of the culture.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
No, I'm part of the culture.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
But I do love nineties black movies.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Okay, so you're making it a race thing. You said that.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
It's okay for me to like saying a cultural thing. Okay,
what is the culture? So McDonald's taps into the culture.
Right have you ever heard anyone say the culture? But listen, listen,
listen to what I'm saying. Hip hop had become a
marketing tool. Correct, Sure, every fortune five hundred company if
you're selling something you're marketing to the culture. The culture
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is driven by music, by fashion, by those things. That's
what I'm talking about. We make films for the culture. Right,
I'm African American. I'm steep in African American culture. I
understand where I'm from, where I'm going, all of those things.
But the culture is all encompassing. Right, you can come
and be part of the culture. He's a DJ, He's
tapped into the culture. So we can be part of
(03:55):
the culture. Let's talk about you. Okay, all right, let's
talk about you.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
Right.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
You just said I'm not from I'm not I'm not
in the.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
No one has ever told me that I'm in the culture.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I'm not getting them in the door like that.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Explain that. So look, when you leave here, what's your
favorite type of music?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
My favorite is hip hop?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (04:14):
All right?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
So when you listen to hip hop, does resonate with
you some of it? The culture?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah? Usually West Coast rap does, right, because it's where
I'm from, it's where I live. I can relate to.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
These stories.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Are talking about culture, that's what that is. Suck it, Alex.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
So when you start the black thing, white thing, this thing,
that thing. No, man, the culture is all of this
is what drives us. It's what it's what drives commerce,
right the most. The biggest thing we export is our
as our coach, our films, our songs, our music. Our
culture is permeates all over the world, right, Western culture,
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whatever that is, right, and so tapping into that, that's
what that's what your demographic.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
For kids, right. I try to speak the truth. I
try to give good takes.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
I try to not just be cyclical in terms of
I'm always gonna have this take for this topic and no,
because that's not reality.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Rights.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
As culture shifts, as time shifts, as things happen, as
players diminish, our younger players get better, then your opinion changes.
So when you ask me what's my demographic, I'm.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
For the people.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
The eighty year old who's listening in the case in
point one of the kids I coach on my team's
name is Dominic. Amazing kid, tremendous soccer player, good basketball player.
He every Sunday he listens to the show with You.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And Mark Sunday nights five to eight pm, specific eight eleven.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
He listens to the show so much so at practice
he starts he wants to talk about right, like the.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Three things that you just came up with.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
He's twelve, right, He's twelve, So okay, if I had
to check a box eleven to eighty nine, there it is.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
That's what that's.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Hell of a broad spectrum right.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Now, because that's what it's about.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Like, I don't just have opinions for young people or
older people, or I can relate. I grew up in
a time without technology, and I grew up in a
time with technology, and so I could speak on a
myriad of things in a way that it's conducive to
people to accept in.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Like okay, well said it was good well speaking of
saying things that are relatable. Shaquille O'Neal has been making
some media arouse this week. I don't know exactly what for,
but I saw him on multiple outlets and one of
them was on the USA Today Sports podcast They're like
(06:51):
a tenment interview, and naturally, one of the questions was
about Lebron James and his move to Philadelphia. Take a
list to what Shaq had to say about number one,
Lebron going to Philly, but number two his long term
legacy with the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Take a listen.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
The good thing for Lebron, he did win one, didn't
win one. But you know, uh, Koreem got six, Magic
got five, Kobe got five, I got four, Rambus got three.
So you know he's he's at the party, but he's
not on stage.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Damn shots fired at the King.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
He's at the party, but he's not on the stage.
That's like me at tow in Vegas. I'm in the club,
but I'm not in the VIP section. Can't afford it.
But here's the thing. Shack is right, one thousand percent.
Shack is so right. He can't turn left. He's driving
on a NASCAR track right now, just going in circles.
(07:54):
Because everything he said about Lebron James and his tenure
in LA is accurate. Now you can appreciate what Lebron
did in LA bringing a championship there in the bubble,
what he did to help, we'll say, resuscitate a franchise
that was at their lowest point in a long time.
But if we're going to be honest about it, one championship,
(08:19):
two Western Finals appearance is three playing tournaments, three first
round exits, two times swept out of the playoffs, two
times missing the playoffs entirely does not make you a
Lakers great, does not put you on the podium with
guys like Magic and Kareem and Shaq and Kobe. What
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Lebron did in LA can be commended, and it's good
enough for a franchise for like the Raptors or the Mavericks,
but not in Los Angeles. You know that because you're
a Laker fan. And that's why when you have guys
like we'll say Nick Ray. First things first, I think
Nick Ray is, for my money, the best guy on
(09:00):
television when it comes to communicating a point, articulating it.
Whether you agree with the opinion or not to meet
it doesn't matter, because I think he's really good at what
he does. But when he says, well, if you're gonna
call the Lebron ara in Los Angeles a failure, then
I guess that the Giannis era was a failure or
the Yokish era was a failure. It's like no, because
the standards in those cities in Milwaukee and Denver is
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not the same as the standards we have here in
Los Angeles. Jerry West might be the sixth or seventh
greatest Laker in NBA history, and he made the finals
nine times, why is he so low because he only
got the one championship. And when you play for the
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Lakers and you only deliver one championship, if you missed
the playoffs more times than you've won championships, you do
not get to consider yourself or get to be called
a Laker great. So when Shack says, yeah, he's at
the party, he's in the room, he got an invite
to the reception, but he ain't sitting at the head table.
(10:05):
He is so right about Lebron in his Lakers era.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Look, I'd love to sit here and argue with you
just for the purposes of, you know, the odd couple,
but I can't because number one, I'm a Laker fan.
Number Two, you're right when you talk about greatness and
you talk about the purple and goal and the Lakers,
(10:31):
and you look at the names that are on the
stage right, you look at what how they dominated the league,
and you know, Lebron James came and brought us back
from obscurity. We were struggling and he came in and
(10:54):
for all intents purposes, I thought we were going to
win the NBA Championship in twenty twenty, with the world
turned off or not. I agree, yep, that's the level
up that they were playing in in March, which is
we only had four weeks left of the season. Essentially,
they were the best team from opening night period to
the end of the season and it wasn't even close,
(11:14):
wasn't it. It wasn't even an argument. No one was
arguing that. And so they were the favorite to win
the championship that year anyway, And so I appreciate that.
Now I'm a little upset with the Lakers organization for
breaking that team up, right, They could have kept Javel,
(11:41):
kept the White, they could have kept I was my
man who went to went to Chicago first, and then
Caruso instead of Yeah, you know what that Washt was
a clutch client, so we know what that was.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
A lot of the Lakers then were clutch clients.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Right, And so that's a that's that's a them thing,
because I think we could have come back and we
could have.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Tried to repeat.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
But when they broke that team up, and then that
next year they went and got Westbrook and it kind
of just disseminated after that. But when you talk about
being on the stage and being an all time Laker
great and you have the names of Magic and Kobe
and Kareem and Shaq, And where does Lebron James fit
in those those names for I'm not talking about in
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terms of the league. I'm talking about for a franchise
or the Lakers specific, the Lakers, the Los Angeles Lakers.
Magic never played for anybody else, Kobe never played for
anybody else. Right, So just just that off rip, Magic
has five, Kobe has makes them one order right all
for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Probably depending your generation, either Magic's won or Kobe's.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
One, you know.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Uh, And then you have Shack to come in and
get three for us and dominant the Lakers were synonymous
with dominant big men, right, and Shaq came in and
stepped into those shoes and delivered that gets you a statue, yep.
And so he's right, he's at the party. You get
an invite. The trophy gets you in the door. But
when they were on stage, they got the VIP section
(13:17):
up on stage that you can't get in. You been there,
you know you'd be standing out there with Lebron. Yeah,
but y'all on the main floor, y'all in the party,
y'all all having a good time, right, you know?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
But upstage, up on that stage, you.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Know that that is a special, special group and it's
it's hard to crack into that.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Now.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
If Lebron would have delivered two three championships, here, the
conversation around that changes. Now you belong on the stage.
You get to go behind the rope. But as of now, look,
thank you Lebron James for what you've done for the Lakers.
You won another championship that gave us seventeen. At the time,
we were tired with the Celtics seventeen and now they
(14:01):
have one more, so we got to get one. Luca,
come on, and uh, you know, I wish you well
moving forward at the seventy six ers for one or
two years and then you know, you've had a hell
of a career. But in times in terms of lure
and greatness and Lakers and hey man, that's that that's
a tough that's a tough cookie to to crumble.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
And that's people something that unless you are a Lakers fan,
and this is something that I mentioned Nick right, Nick
Wright is not a Lakers fan. He is a Lebron fan. Yes,
So if you are viewing it through the prism of
Lebron James. Of course it canna be slided the way,
but if you are a Lakers fan, it's not even
a question. Yeah, it's not even close. And so I'm
not trying to be blasphemous or to disparage Lebron James, cause,
(14:47):
like I said, he did bring a championship there.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Right, let me ask you a question. This is easy.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Kobe o Lebron, Kobe magic all Lebron magic, kareem all Lebron, kareem.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Shack our Lebron. Okay, what we're talking about, Well.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
That's what I was gonna ask you right about. So
if we say that he is not at the VIP section,
he's somewhere in the party. And let's imagine there are
levels to this point, right, because you've been to parties
where hey, there's a VIP, but there's another VIP and
then there's a super super VIP. So the guys you
mentioned are in the super duper VIP. How far down
the list do we go before Lebron is in that room?
(15:22):
So if I ask you, is he more of a
Lakers legend than James Worthy?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
What is he more of a Lakers legend than Algie Baylor? No,
Jerry West, No, how Gasol No, Byron Scott.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
No, Man, That's what I'm like it.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
GE's crazy because you're thinking about You're like, man, if
I'm talking.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
About we're not talking about career exactly. He's had a
better career.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Than all of that, probably most of them put together.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
We're not talking about that. Were you crazy? Brian's God,
Maybe it's worthy. Maybe we are crazy eight seven seven
ninety nine On the Fought Your Mind James Worthy, Hey,
big game, James.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Big game, James still on here in La Michael Cooper, Mike,
Michael Cooper is more of a how about Will Chamberlain.
They're kind of similar. They are similar one in one.
They's got one.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
They are similar. So there we go.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
That's hanging out with Will you and Will learn a section.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
And twenty thousand women over there eight seven.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Seven six six six ninety seven seven nine Ol Fox
is lebron James, a Lakers legend or a shack right. Yeah,
you know he's in the party, but he ain't really
on the stage with the rest of us. We want
to hear from you. Eight seven seven nine l Fox.
It is the odd couple. Rober Ghir, rob g I
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Speaker 3 (16:59):
You ever stand up, You're the same height as when
you were sitting down. That's a big ego crush. Tell
you that right now. It is the eye couple with
me Rob gee, miss Alm.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Look look I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
The exact same look if I sit down? What maybe
two inches? If that, I feel like Tory lanez out here.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Do you want to do it standing up?
Speaker 9 (17:19):
No?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I do not want to do the show with you
standing up. If you notice this, pull the curtain back, Alex.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
He knows this.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
When he from comes into the studio. How often do
I stand up to greet him? Alex?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Never?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Never?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Never?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
When Rob Parker.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Comes in to greet me, how did I stand to
greet him?
Speaker 4 (17:36):
You look the other way?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Never, cause y'all are too tall. I am not gonna
dap you up and be in your belly button.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
You don't want to, I am you don't want to
hug you don't want to know. Get in here, man,
I'll sit down.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
But what's that be from?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Come over here.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
We'll tap it where I'm sitting down, but I will
not stand up, No, not once. Oh gosh, it is
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We'll try to sneak in a car. We got the
update coming up. Isaac Lowan Kron's chopping at the bit.
We asked before we went to the break. Is Lebron
an all time Lakers great? Shaq says no, We say no.
What say you? Let's get it started, Rob in Memphis.
(18:31):
You're on the Yard Couple Fox Sports Radio. What you got, Rob?
Speaker 9 (18:35):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Man's not a whole lot chilling down here, Memphis. Hey, look,
I know Lebron is not considered a lak a legend
by Lakers Nation, which is who he probably needs to
be considering one by to be a Laker legend. But
I don't think it's a lack of championship that gets
in there. Jared West is absolutely.
Speaker 9 (18:56):
A legend with only one ring. I think it's the
lack of amount of time he's spent there in LA
which makes him not feel so, you know, much like
a lager legend. But I also want to throw this in.
I'm mad at Shaq for slick giving himself one more
rings when he said what.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
He said he did, he gave himself four.
Speaker 9 (19:15):
That's right, Yeah, he told he only got three with
the Legers. But he's trying to bump himself up a
little bit. Don't do that, Shack. I love you, you're
the greatest, but don't do that. Also, Jaylen Brown is
the best player on the seventy six ers currently, not
the biggest superstar, the second biggest superstar on the team,
but he is the best current player on that team.
Is disrespectful to say anything else.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Love y'all five damn.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
I guess I don't know if people watched Tyres Max
he play.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
This year.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
He's really good. He is their superstar.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
He is so good and so you know, look, I'm
not taking anything away from Jayleen Brown.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
I like Jayalen Brown. Like I said, I didn't sound
like you liked it.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
I know, I said, I respect the player that plays
both ends of the court. Right, that's that that garners
my respect. He's an All NBA player. But coming to
a new team where you already had an MVP, a
superstar and now an older superstar, where does he fit
in that?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:12):
And like we'll see when they start playing who's got
the ball in their hands and who's taking the shots.
So he's been playing second fiddle. If they don't reach
their heights. Well, number one, nb's health will be the
first thing.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yes, number two.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
It'll be whether or not he's willing to play a role.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Jaylen Brown, it doesn't seem like he is, but yes.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Because if he buys in'll be amazing.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
They'll be amazing. But don't forget about Hedgecombe J VJ.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
There were people in Philadelphia. I know they lost the playoffs.
They got swept out right, there were people in Philadelphia saying, hey,
but you know what MAXI and Edgecombe, those two guys alone,
like we lost it. Was embarrassing. But these two guys
are And now.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Where does Jalen Brown fit into that? He as a
stacked team? Say on paper? Yes, on paper?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Now, health doesn't live on paper, It doesn't an actual reality.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
And you know who else lives in reality? Isaac loewen
Kron at the update desk, we thank you right here,
I see him. I appreciate that.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
You obviously must not talk to my children because they
feel differently, and frankly, they have a point. The Minnesota
Vikings made a point today. Named Kyler Murray their starting quarterback.
JJ McCarthy their first round pick two years ago, going
to be the backup. Murray going to be the vikings
fourth different opening day starting quarterback in the last four years.
Newly signed Chicago Bears safety Kobe Bryant expected him as
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four to six months after undergoing knee surgery. He injured
his knee early in camp was initially expected to be
out for eight to ten weeks. Brian signed a three
or forty million dollar deal with the Bears after winning
a Super Bowl with the Seahawks last season. In Major
League Baseball, the Atlanta Braves just knocked off the New
York Mets. Ford and nothing as the Braves. Matt Olsen
had a two run home run in the bottom of
(21:59):
the eighth, his thirty fifth home run of the campaign,
tying the Phillies Kyle Schwarber from the major league lead
right now. The Chicago Cubs holding an eight to six
lead at Washington. In the bottom of the eighth inning,
the Cub's Pete Crow Armstrong his twenty seventh home run.
Saya Suzuki also hit a home run, giving him four
consecutive twenty home run seasons. The Seattle Mariners have a
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one to nothing lead on the road over the Yankees,
and the bottom of the seventh inning, the only run
of the game courtesy of a home run by Seattle's
Randy aros Arena, his fifteenth of the season. The Toronto
Blue Jays now four to three over the Boston Red
Sox at the bottom of the eighth inning north of
the border, and the Baltimore Orioles of five two advantage
at Minnesota in the top of the seventh, the os
(22:44):
Pete Alonso a two run home run in the top
of the first, his twenty sixth of the season. Rob
and e from all.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yours, Thank you, Eilo, Thank you for riding on this
voyage with us. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Very enjoyable being with you too.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
You didn't seem that way from here. You're tavanoid, but
I appreciate you saying that.
Speaker 11 (23:03):
That's my happy face.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
There you go, all right, I take it.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Oh gosh, it is the odd couple from Salam Rob
g sitting in for Rob Parker kelvin Washington.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
The big news of the day we opened the show
with Kyler Murray is the QB one now in Minnesota
and we If you missed any of it, check out
the YouTube page. Elijah has already posted up some clips
on it. You get the full discussion there. What I
want to ask you though, from is JJ McCarthy is
now the third quote unquote franchise quarterback to get dumped
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this offseason by his team unceremoniously.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
We had Michael Pennix Junior and Kirk Cousins get dumped
for Tua. We had Tua get dumped from Malik Willis,
and now we have JJ McCarthy dumped for Kyler Murray.
All of those teams were heavily invested in the guys
that they got rid of, took up cap hits with
Tua obscene cap hit of course, now with Kyler Murray
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there in Arizona, big draft, you know, equity with JJ McCarthy,
Michael Pennick junior, and these teams said, you know what,
we're gonna cut our losses. We're gonna move on. Like
we said, it's not about being right, it's about getting
it right. So with all that in mind, now that
these NFL teams have you mentioned, smartened up, They're not
gonna keep banging on the door trying to make some
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work square peg, round hole. We're gonna try to maximize
whatever window we have. There is one quarterback I believe
she'd have his years pricked up and she'd have his
head on a swivel if this is what's happening now
around the league, and that is CJ. Stroud in Houston. Now, CJ.
Stroud has been in the playoffs every year of his career.
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He's won a playoff game every year of his career.
But he's not getting a new deal. They already said
we're gonna table talks all after the season. He just
had his third year. And you know they say that
oh so and so peaked in high school, right that's
the expression here. CJ. Stroud peaked in high school. Of
high school was his rookie season, because every year since
then he has gotten worse. His passing yards per game
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have dropped every year, passer rating has dropped eighteen points
as a rookie season. His TV interception ratio has doubled
since his rookie season. In the playoffs again, he gets
to the playoffs every year and he wins a game
and you know, doing the lord's work. Seven total turnovers
in two playoff games this year. In the process, became
the first player with five plus picks and five plus
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fumbles in a single post season. Ephraim, the Texans have
a Super Bowl defense, oh right now? Goodness, they have
a Super Bowl roster right now. If they had a
quarterback in place that they could trust that's not going
to turn the ball over, that is going to make
the plays that are there, then they would be a
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heavy favorite or one of the favorites to come out
of the AFC. Tell me why I'm wrong about Stroud
right now?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
So I have to tell you why.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I'm asking do you see it the way out.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
I'm asking you.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I'm asking you away from yes or no?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
I do see it. When when the meltdown was happening
last year in the playoffs, I was like, hey, I
would put Davis Mills in time with his long neck,
I would put him in. But I said, if they
chose to do that, then the CJ. Stroud era in
Houston is over right. And and I understand why they
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didn't do it, But if David Mills is in that game,
they win that game.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
That's how good their defense was. They just needed someone
not to turn the ball over. For whatever reason, CJ
has fallen on, well, he's regressed the last two years.
You know, a year before last lost all their receivers.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
We get it.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Okay, still made the playoffs, still won a playoff game
this year. That defense was oh my, I mean it's
hard to even put in the words how good they were.
You could turn the ball over that many times to
still win a playoff game. Brother, when your defense is
going three times in the game like this is, you
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can play quarterback rop like you can do that.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Just context. Number one in total defense, number one in
EPA per play. That's better than the dark side defend
in Seattle. They just won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Yes, they were clearly the best defense in the league.
They just needed adequate quarterback play. That's it, just marginal.
Sure they didn't get it.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
C J.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Strout is a big year. You should be sitting on
sixty million a year. He should be with the extension. Yeah,
shout out to Houston for saying, hey, let's pause this
right out. You're our guy, but you have to prove
to yourself that you're our guy. Right, you have to
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go out there and you have to perform and play
at a level we need you to play at to
get to the super Bowl. It's no longer playoffs, but
they've shown for three years, he's shown he can get
to the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
And win a game. Yeah, Now it's.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
What's a lot of your favorite quarterbacks can't do that.
What's the exactly what's the next step?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Right?
Speaker 6 (28:17):
The next step is the AFC Championship, then the Super Bowl.
But you cannot turn the ball over, You cannot be
frivolous with the ball, can't throw interceptions, can't fumble the ball.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Can he do that? Well, if you do.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Want sixty million a year or sixty six whatever it's
going to be for the next one, then you have
to clean this up. We have to know that you
can clean it up. For us to double down and
bet on you, Like I said, you lose your job.
You add six to nine jobs available every year every year,
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and you're thinking, how is that possible when six to
nine jobs for head coaches are available every year? Yeah,
because owners are like, we're good, someone else is coming in.
So for Houston and CJ, he's got to be He's
got to be flawless man, he's got to be. In
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my opinion, he's got to be great. We have to
be talking at the halfway mark. We have to be
talking about him as one of the top four or
five quarterbacks in the league right now. That's the level
of that's what he needs. And if he does that,
their record will be indicative of that because that defense
is still hungry and it's still there.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Well, do you think he even has to be that
good though? I do, for them to win?
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I think he has to be that good for the extension.
Oh yeah, no, I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
So he needs to have a Sam Darnold twenty twenty
four times.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
You gotta make him forget what happened. You have to
be like, oh, that was the old man.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
But you're you're a smart guy. If you were running
a team, you would not let him forget that. Even
if he did put up thirty four touchdown.
Speaker 9 (29:58):
C J.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Stroud had forty touch downs, nine picks through four.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
That's an MVP season.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Through for fifty or forty eight hundred yards. You invest
sixty six million dollars a year into that guy. Right,
you've eradicated all of that. You blame it on youth,
blame it on whatever you're blaming it on, but you've
eradicated that once you show up and give one of
those Look at what Deshaun Watson did. You led the
league in passing. They gave him two hundred thirty million
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dollars for your tee. But that's what happens. You have
to you have to make them forget about the and
the only way you can make them forget you can't.
You can't tiptoe in there. You can't just have an
average year, right, thirty two hundred yards, nineteen touchdowns, you know,
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twelve intercepts.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
You's almost what he had last time. I know, three
nineteen touchdowns, eight picks.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Can't do that, can't do it. You have to prove
to them and show them why I'm the guy for
the next ten years here, and we can win the
Super Bowl with me. That's why this is so important
that there's more pressure now than ever.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Before for c J.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Strout because tabling it for the offseason means we'll pick
up your fifth year option.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
That's what's interesting is Bryce Young and Carolina are also
going to be playing on the fifth year option. But
the expectations there are so different. If I think if
Bryce Young has a similar season how he had last year,
which wasn't great, but he won a lot of games
for that team, they made the playoffs for the first
time in the long run or in a while. He
was solid for half the season, not even the first
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half of the season, right, he was solid second half.
If he is solid for the entirety of the season,
he probably gets a contract. Maybe not six, maybe it's
fifty two, fifty three somewhere in that area.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
I don't think he gets that much because I don't
think they're sold on well.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Baker Mayfield just got offer two for one hundred.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Baker Mayfield is a little bit different.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Baker Mayfield had the history of I mean, without him,
Tampa Bay was nothing.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I mean, they had a lot of talent on that too.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
But he also took Cleveland, the Cleveland Browns to the playoffs.
They just mismanaged that Baker Mayfield took Cleveland brown to
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Right, So when.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
You're looking at Baker and you're looking at Bryce Young,
they're completely different players.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Completely. He's proven it. Look at Baker's numbers.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Okay, So I'm looking at the quarterbacks just average per year.
Sam Darnold's at thirty three and a half. Then it
jumps up Daniel Jones forty four, Deshaun forty six, Hurts Jackson,
Herbert All fifty one, fifty two, Party fifty three, go
fifty three, and then it goes up from there. So
you don't think that with a solid season that he's
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getting Daniel Jones money somewhere forty five fifty two, because
that's the going right now for quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Yeah, forty five to fifty two. Yes, Okay, so that's
what I'm saying. That's what is sixty six sixty six
the top of the market.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Well, that's what I'm talking about. So you have the
type of defense.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Right, But that's my conversation is Bryce Young doesn't have
to do that to get a big contract. Theah. The
expectations in Houston are such.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
That they're higher, they're highest.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
So if he has an average season, are they more
likely to just let him go completely then give him
a big contract.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
I think they'll low ball him. He probably won't take it.
Franchise tag, franchise tag him, right. They have the leverage,
they have all the level, they have the leverage, and
so they don't feel the need to rush. Now, you
can speed that clock up if you're CJ. Stroud by
going out here and burning the hole through the league,
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you can speed that clock up.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I don't think you will, but you he could, Ben.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I mean he quite I hope.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
So.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I love Hoton, but you know, for all intent's purposes,
I was so disappointed and in last year I just
couldn't believe it. I was like, what happened? I was
begging for them to put the meals in, begging.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Last question, yes or no? This time next year, is
he the starting quarterback in Houston.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
That's a tough one, man.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
Yeah, I'm asking you yes, because he'll be franchise tagged.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So he's not getting JJ McCarthy to uh Pennix whatever.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
No, no, no, because they don't have to do that.
The other team didn't have to either.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
They are they their exit, their exit strategy is completely right.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Now, if if the Texans have an awful year and
they have a top draft pick.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
There that defense is so good, their awful year could
be seven or eight wins.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
But if they fall in the top five and it
picks right, if they fall in the top five and picks,
then they will draft a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
If c J. Strout, If they if they have a
year that bad, it's because c J.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Stroud was that bad at least, and so then dance
would be no to that question.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
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Can we admit that Lebron James is the Kim Kardashian
of the NBA.
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Quickly explain yourself. I want to hear this.
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Speaker 4 (38:18):
From Why don't your voice sound good like that?
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Yeah, he got a good timber.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Everybody got choices. Why don't you choose voice?
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Hey, I don't know, I don't know.
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Wow, I know she was long term successful.
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Remember he said he hit puberty at age nine and
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That wasn't that funny.
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Let me ask Rob Parker.
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So that right before the stroke? Laugh?
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Speaker 6 (39:00):
Magic is that Magic City? Minty nineteen Night is tomorrow
Tomorrow night. We have a segment built around that. Do
you think, uh, do you think Kelvin's gonna go? Hell no,
not even to the parking lot.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
No, sir, he has a brand to a pole, a
tissue for You don't know how many topics we cannot
do because of his.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Brand, Well you can do them all with me.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Do you think Mike Hill is going to be there?
He said no, Yes, Mike. Mike was on the show yesterday.
He's like, no, Mike Hill, what he said, I'm older
now more mature, am I Okay?
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for the young, it's for the younger people.
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He's a he's a mentor for the mentees.
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I go to lead by example.
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