March 28, 2024 • 38 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Chris discuss if Steph Curry should explore leaving the Golden State Warriors in hopes of capturing his 5th NBA championship, tell us why the lack of real NBA prospects make the rest of the NCAA Tournament a little less appealing and explain why it makes sense that LeBron James would prioritize health over playoff seeding.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes, indeed, I am Chris. He is Martin.
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Speaker 3 (00:58):
Don't look now. That used to be big. You know,
people in sports used to.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Say way back, don't look now, but an upset is
in the making, Martin. I don't know if you have
the TV on in the studio. Clemson, the sixth seed
up sixty five fifty eight with six minutes to play
over second seed at Arizona, and so far the top
(01:26):
eight seeds in the tournament have advanced Martin, and it
looks like we could get our first number two seed bounced.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
But you know, obviously a lot of game left, and
you know how the arch Madness games go generally down
to the wire.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And if you're a gamblee guy like me.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
You're like, wait a minute, why on earth did I
just bet on this twenty year old kid at best
to make this decision.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I wouldn't bet on Arizona. Huh No, I didn't. I
didn't bet on anything.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I'm just saying that's that's generally how I feel, because
I'm thinking and then every time I lose a bet
on any college sport and think about myself in college
and how little I would have bet on me to
do anything so right when I.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Was that age. I would have done it wrong too,
I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
And also in the NBA, Martin, I don't know if
you're seeing this, New Orleans is putting it on Milwaukee
fifty six forty in Smoothie King Arena or the Smoothie
King Center.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I was trying to tell you me. I was like,
I'll ask carry Kettles about it. So I like this
New Orleans team.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Man, I know they don't have brandon Ingram, but Zion
is finally looking like like the promise that was.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
That was made when he was drafted.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
He's finally starting to look like a guy who can
be a day in, day out impact player.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah, I mean to your point, he look, he may
be maturing. What he did early in his career was inexcusable.
I mean we can say, look, he was young, and
that's just a fact.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
He was young. Maybe he hadn't didn't understand things.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Maybe he had to get knocked down a few pegs,
you know, to wake up and hopefully this is something
then that will continue really for the rest of his
career or at least the rest of his prime, because
he's obviously got a ton of talent and he's showing
it and rebounded even a little better. He's still not
killing it on the glass like you might expect, but
(03:14):
in March Martin, he's giving you twenty four seven boards
and five assists the game on sixty three percent shooting.
And so you know, in today's NBA, where the driving
lanes are open, that's one rid way. Lebron James is
scoring so much because he's the drive. It's just easier
than ever to drive. You can't hand check the floor spread,
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so there's lanes wide open. And Zion, who doesn't shoot threes,
he's taking one to three pointer this month.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Martin, that's fine still, but I'm fine with it too.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But I'm just saying that because he's such a great driver,
that he's taking advantage of that, which is smart. So
all right, let us go to uh the Golden State
Warriors again started to show with them talking about the
madness that Draymond Green exhibited yesterday and being ejected less
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than four minutes into the game. But let's look at
it from a different angle, or look at the Warriors
from a different angle. They're the tenth seed fighting for
dear life to hold off the young Houston Rockets.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And I emphasize young. Okay. I did it for a
reason because next year, presumably.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Those Rockets are going to be better, and that still
would only make them the tenth team in the West.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Right, so Memphis probably going to be better.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh, Joba ran back right or yeah, I definitely better,
but I think they'll be back in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Mix. San Antonio.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
You know, Wemby's only gonna keep improving and we'll see
if they're ready to fight for a playoff spot. But
they're certainly going to be better too. So my point is,
where are the Warriors going? Where are they going? Like
next year? We talked to Anthony Slater of The Athletic
(05:11):
who covers them earlier.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They could get rid of Chris.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Paul's thirty million dollar contract, probably gonna be a tough
to trade, but you try to see if you can
get some good parts for it. But likely they might
just have to release him. Clay, Yeah, I would bring
him back at a very low number. But if I
have to part ways with Clay, I gotta part ways
with Clay. I'm sorry. That still will not give them
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cap room to really do anything significant, all right, And
so they are not looking like a chance really a
team that's gonna be able to compete for a championship
for the next several years or for the remainder of
Steph Curry's you know, while he's still playing at a
high level. I do think Jonathan Kaminga could be a
(05:57):
future star. He's playing very well. I do like Trace
Jackson Davis. He plays well he's you know, he's a
nice player. He's not gonna be a star, but I
think he is a nice player who maybe can be
a starter. But still they're not gonna be in that
championship mix. I don't believe, And so do you. What
(06:18):
do you think Steph Curry should do? I don't even
know if I should ask it that way because my
view Martin, while I would love to see him be
in a situation ideally in Golden State, but if it
had to be somewhere else, so be it where he
could compete for championships.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I would just defer to him.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
If he's fine with where he's at, and hey, I
want to be a Warrior for life, and if we're
not competing for a championship my last four years, three years,
whatever it is, I'm fine with that. So be it
is his life, it's his decision.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And you heard Slater say he thinks he doesn't think
Steph would leave and hasn't given Indie indication of that.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But what what do you see of this?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Do you think the Warriors can get to a place
where they can contend or or that he'll have to
go elsewhere to have those those possibilities.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I mean, at this point, I think it would take
some level of you know, a guy who's kind of
you know, we should see more of this more frequently,
But a guy who was signed on in the end
of their careers or near the end of their career
to try to win a championship, like like when Carl
Malone went to the Lakers, right and Gary Payton. But
you know, it's like, I think that is probably what
(07:35):
you're looking at as probably where you can find like,
I don't know, just off the top.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Even in that situation, Shaq and Kobe were still in
their prime. Yeah, but I mean as Steph's I mean, Steph,
I guess you want to say he's at the tail end.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Of his prime.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Yeah, I tell you he's at the tail end of
his prime, if nothing for nothing else besides his age.
I don't think his game has waned in some great way,
But I don't think he depend on him in the
same way, Like like Steve Kirch said just a couple
of days ago, He's like, I can't run Steph thirty
five minutes a game anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
He's thirty six years old, right, the same.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Way, like the Lake, the Lakers may probably like they
have to depend on Lebron so much if they have
more around him and be a little bit of a
different story. But at this point, for Steph, you know,
the fan in me wants him to stay in Golden State.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I like, well, I like, I like it.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So you rather him stay in Golden State and not
compete for championships then go elsewhere and have like be
in the mix again.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Yeah, because at this point, I think, you know, only
one team can win it every year, and I think
his legacy as a lifelong warrior, he's already got two rings,
I mean three rings at this point, the ring fourst boom,
there you go. Even more so he's already got the four,
so you know that that right there, I mean, he's
first ballot Hall of Famer. I'd like to see them
build a statue outside of Chase Center that.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Way, But even if he went somewhere else, they building
a statue.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
But I'd like to see him retire a warrior, even
if it means that, you know, his his days winning
championships are over, because what would be truly sad in
my opinion, he leaves Golden State Kevin Durant and then
never sniffs the finals again, ll I think the.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Difference there would be that.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Steph, first of all, he's built a winning legacy that
Durrant's wins aren't aren't comparable to.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Right, Like Steph is the architect of a.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Dynasty, whereas Durant just went somewhere and played great. Don't
get me wrong, but he hopped on a train that
was already heading toward championships and had even won one.
So I think that's different. I also think because of
the age, like Durant now has been wayward as far
as winning in his career for now what how many years,
(09:53):
four or five years, six years now, uh, maybe five years.
So Steph at because he's third five already, He's not
gonna wander in the wilderness like Durant has for five
more years. It's just he's not gonna play that long.
And so I think that's that's one difference. But I
think this, and you brought up some Obviously, Steph's the
(10:16):
first ballot Hall of Famer. Many people view him as
a top ten player of all time. I tend to
view him as that. So his legacy is incredible already.
I guess it comes down to, like is he more
like Lebron? Like Lebron's legacy is set two, but Lebron
(10:38):
is still driven to win championships. And I get it.
Lebron has a very tangible goal in front of him.
Some people think he's already accomplished it. Most don't. But
that's goat. Steph is not in that goat conversation, but
he is in the goat point guard conversation. And if
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he went somewhere else and won a championship and he
had five, I mean, then now again, he might be satisfied.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And he he could be with all he's done.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
And it's not like these are official rankings, right, It's
not like he's officially going to move ahead of Magic
Johnson or something like that. But in the discussion, in
the public discussion, which is stronger now than it's ever
been because of shows like ours, talk shows like First
Things First and et cetera.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
That's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
So I mean, you know, you get what I'm saying, though,
like I don't think like I hear you on the
romanticization of staying in one franchise your entire career and
how great that is. But times have changed, and I
don't think if he went to I'm what's who's close?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I mean, if he went to.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Say, let's shay hypothetically speaking, the Warriors traded him to
Minnesota for Mike Conley and a couple other players in
some tacks, right, like a team that is, you know, young,
but you know, a near in the top half of
the West competing, got another star next to him, right
with Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Like I think he led him to a champion. See,
I think the key would be what type of role
did he play? If he's just kind of a.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Role player averaging fourteen points a game and it's Edwards
and Kat carrying them and you know he's just doing
this little bit part that's different. You're right, Like, that's
to me not worth it. Gary Payton is an all
time great player, But that championship in Miami doesn't really
change his legacy. Jason Kidds championship in Dallas. I mean,
(12:45):
he's he's already got a great legacy, Hall of Famer,
but that one championship doesn't like change his legacy. It's
how what did you contribute to it? And that's I
agree with you if that were the case. But if
he were to go to Minnesota to give them twenty
five a night and Anthony Edwards is giving them twenty four,
(13:05):
twenty six something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Then that's a whole different story. Yeah, you see what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I just think we're at the place now, like Steph
Curry can win you a series, you know, but I
don't think he No.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
But he wouldn't be alone. No, But I think he
can with the right pieces around him.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
So but it's like, where is it. What's the level
of right piece? Because like if it not like like
you just like if he were in.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Minnesota now, obviously they might have to give up some
of it, and that's a that's a pipe dream anyway,
because you know they don't want to part with any
of their their core. But just hypothetically speaking, if he
were there with that team and won a championship averaging
twenty three twenty four points a game, you don't think
that would change his legacy?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I don't or add to it. I should saying I'm
sure would add to it. It would add to the mystique.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But again, and now that's that's all we're talking about
at this point, is adding to the mystique.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
But I just think it would be a negligible adds
as impressive as winning a championship is. It's not like
he's Damian Lillard who's never gotten over the hump and
this with his teams. If the Milwaukee pulls it off
this year, then boom, that changes Damian Lillard's entire stature,
right like Steph Curry's.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Just he's a made man. He's a made man. But
you're all.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
But their levels to this and whether or not it
would you know, make you and I wonder about it.
Some people would say that's it. He's past magic. He's
the greatest point guard ever. Some people might say this
was the Steph Curry era? How can it be the
(14:36):
Lebron era when he only won four in twenty years
and Steph won five in whatever, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years,
And some.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
People will be dead wrong if that's the case. Like
I'm just saying that.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
And now that might not matter to Steph because, like
it said, all it is is talk. It's not they're
no official rankings and things like that, so maybe it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
But I'm just saying that is.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
The type of discussion, the types of conversations that would
be being had if.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
He were to go somewhere else and win. I wouldn't
say that. If I'm step I'd go in there and
be like, it's Draymond or me? Now what Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
But I mean even if you do that, are you
you winning?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
You're not winning now?
Speaker 4 (15:20):
No, Like Draymond is his friend, he could be frustrated.
But if it's if it's just the difference between the
ninth seed and the seventh seed, what's the big deal?
I mean, I hear you, I'm not mad at Steph.
If he's like, man, look, I'm just gonna I want
to be a Warrior. I'm gonna play out the string here.
Kobe did that with the Lakers. It happens. A lot
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of guys have done that.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
It's not a big and for me, I just like
it when you see a guy stick it out with
his team. Like and because the Warriors have been Stepf's
team whole time, and it would just be odd to
watch him as a Trailblazer or a Timberwolf or a
temper or you know, you name it, a Pelican.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It just be weird to Shaun he live in the
Western Conference Finals. It's odd seeing them as the ten
see Martin Weiss eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox
You'll turn the way in. Would you like to see
Steph go somewhere else and start competing, you know, get
on the team where he can compete for that fifth championship.
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seven ninety nine on Fox. Would you like to see
Steph go to another team so he can compete for
more championships?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Your thoughts, Let's go to Raphael and Cincinnati. You're on
the odd couple on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
What you got what's going on?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Bros? No, definitely not. I would want to see Steph
go anywhere else. I feel pretty confident that he wouldn't
want to go anywhere else as well. I think he's
loyal to the Warriors organization, the owners, coaches, players, fans,
and I think he's to be quite comfortable in knowing
that his legacy is cemented, and if it were to
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be a fifth championship, he's gonna do it with what
he got right there. But I think eventually he'll retire
in the probably about maybe two more seasons. I've seen
and uh, I'm probably being elected official there in California, all.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Right, if he uh, I mean he could he could,
but we'll see, he.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Hadn't talked about that has he's going to Terry in Atlanta.
You're on the odd Couple Terry.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
Yesterday I tuned in and I hear our boy Rob
Parker talking about how Kate Lee Clark could play in
the NBA, and it was like, what is this guy
talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Right?
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Could you? Could you imagine Draymond or Patrick Beverly Kaylee Clark?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
But but it was an embarrassing take for Rob. Yeah,
I hate to drag her even into this because it's awesome,
but come on, man, let's.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Just you know.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
So Bruce.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
Today, I tune in and my man says that it's
not going to change Steph's legacy at all. If he
wins another ring. If he wins another ring brings him
to five, that would be more than Lebron in the
Lebron era, and it wouldn't change anybody.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's where I disagree with Mark.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Not I agree with you that like the degree, we
can argue over the degree to which it might change.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
But Martin, it would change.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I think it if anything very slightly, very little, I don't,
honestly don't.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
You don't think he can move any high it changes?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I don't because I think he's definitely. I say he's
top ten, others don't. If he were to get to five,
it's undebatable whether or not he's top ten.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
I already got him top ten, so that's like I
have him now top ten. That's what I'm saying. The
difference between eight and seven is not is not? Is
not that big to me?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, but maybe if he wins another I mean, some
of it depends on how it was won.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
But if he wins another one as the leading guy,
I mean, but.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Today I gotta take umbridge with Terry from Atlanta, because
you're comparing that take to Kayler Clark at the NBA.
One of those is those two things are not the
same path.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
That is true. He put you in some bad company.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah, I'm about to say, just because I'm in the
same seat as Rob Parker is.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Normally no no, no, whoa, whoa woa. Don't you do that?
All right?
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Moro, couple coming your way, Keep it locked. We're gonna
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Speaker 4 (20:50):
Martin Weiss, you of who you have stated now that
you outplayed DJ Augustin.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. I didn't say all of that.
Well that's what I heard. No, I know my Team
one is going viral.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I don't know if you've checked Twitter, but Augustin is like, yo,
what I said?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
My team won thirty seven on dude. No, honestly in
the l No, Chris, this is really the truth. DJ
Augustine was the first guy who let me know I
was going pro and something other than sports.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
That's the fact.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Because he came in a summer league game with a
soft cast on his right hand, running clock to twenty
minute halves and scored a cool forty shooting free throws
left handed. And I mean he's only like a year
older than me. So we were playing against each.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Other basically playing left handed.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Left hand Chris, I had never seen nothing like it.
To this day, I was like, this dude is the
best basketball player I've ever seen in my entire life.
And after that, I knew that there was no way
I was ever going to get to that point. So
I was just playing for fun. But we ended up
but I had a good basketball team in high school.
I was when I was a Jesuit. Really you started,
(21:56):
I was off, I came off the bench, but I
was Yeah, I was on the team.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Of course I was on the team, So I was
good tack. I got to play. Okay, Okay, how far
did y'all go?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
We would uh we never won the state championship, but
we would generally get to maybe we win two or
three playoff games.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Okay, So that's that's good in Louisiana. Yeah, we're all
in down there. You know, I'm from Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
How about I got piece down there to check you out?
Check out too, and see if what you're saying is true.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Go for it. I know this.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I played against this gangly kid who went to Helen
Cox and then after Katrina moved to Michigan, I was
checking like the rival stuff. And this is back in
two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, as I
was cheating with where my class was.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
What was happening.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Turns out that gangly kid from Hellic Cox turned out
to be Greg Monroe. Had a like six to seven
inch growth spurt in between the last time I saw
him in his senior year in high school and how.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Good was he when you saw it. He's still figuring
it out.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
He was still figuring like he's kind of kind of
kind of I mean he was too, he was tall,
and it was you could see that.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It was he was.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Learning his body still. But I mean he had to,
don't get me wrong, he was time that game.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I mean, he didn't obviously didn't have the career that
he could have.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
He just you know, I think his temperament held him
back a little bit, you know, because he had.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Skills, and the league changed a bit too.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
The league kind of changed on him kind of overnight
because if he you know, he was back to the
basket type guy and then all of a sudden, everybody's
got to face up and have dribble moves in that
that way, No.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
And that's that's the thing. Some people are getting caught.
Some people have gotten caught in that, you know, the
switching of the league.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
So no, that's fair.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
All right, speaking of the league, let's go to the
NCAA tournament and talk about like what the NBA scouts
when they look at these kids.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
What they're looking for.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Now we've talked about already, Uh, what three of the
top five picks, and some mock drafts are from international players.
Another one you can throw in their is from one
of the minor league's G league or whatever. And so
the best player aren't certainly not every year playing in
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this tournament. But what are the NBA teams looking for
when they scout players in this tournament?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Rob g. There was a story written about this recently,
that's right.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
ESPN dot com spoke to several anonymous NBA scouts to
discuss just how much the tournament helps or herds at
players draft stock, and surprisingly enough, the scouts were pretty
much split on it. However, one thing that they did
seem to agree on was that tournament's success only really
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matters for young players.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
And this is what I mean.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
If you're a young player, if you're a freshman like
the guys from Kentucky and your team disappoints like they did,
they don't really hold it against them, like, hey, you're young,
you're nineteen, you're not expected to play well in the
brightest state.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Rob Dillingham for example, exactly.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
And last year Brandon Brandon Miller Miller, Yeah, he who's
had a nice little rookie sea.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
But on the flip side.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
If Kentucky and Dillingham had made a deep run and he,
you know, maybe gets the Elite eight or something like that,
leading Kentucky, that would be seen as a massive positive
in his regard because as a freshman, he's playing his
best when his best is necessary against the best competition.
So that's number one, but number two, and this is
probably most important. According to these scouts, One thing they
agree on is it's mostly just confirmation bias. If you
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like the kid coming into the tournament and he performs well,
then it's like, hey, see, I told you everything I
said about him is true. He's a really good player's
gonna work well in the pros. If he didn't like
him and he doesn't perform well in the tournament, then
see I told you this kid can't play. And that's
why we're not gonna draft him as high as some
other people might.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Yeah, it's interesting obviously this year or not just this year,
but going forward in the tournaments, you gotta be careful
because Kerry Kittles was saying, you know, a lot of
these guys are twenty two, twenty three years old, but
they're not NBA players, right.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
So that's why I think for young kids.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
If a young kid goes berserk in the NCAA tournament,
you know he's doing it against older guys even though
they're not NBA caliber.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
He's still doing it against grown men.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
If another twenty one or twenty two year old does it,
you gotta be careful.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Like the general public might go berserking.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Oh gosh, did you see so and so he's averaged
twenty seven in the tournament, got his team to the
final four. But NBA scouts have gotta look at it like, yeah,
but he's doing against guys that are his age, that
aren't going to the NBA.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
So what's he gonna do again? Like the best players
his age are already in the league.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
So I think that's something that you really have to
take into consideration if you're a scout.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Well, especially in the in the NBA, because so much
of it is projection, right, That's why you look at
these mock drafts, and hell, just look at drafts history.
All these guys are freshmen, right, Almost all the top
ten guys are freshman, top fifteen guys are freshmen right
when they're looking at who's gonna And part of that
reason is because you can get them at nineteen years
old and see where they're going to grow.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Right.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
It's all about the projection of it. And Gilbert Arenas
made a good point on his I don't even know
if you call it a podcast whatever he does this show,
that's the best way to phrase it because it's on video.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I've only seen the video. I don't even know they
do audio thing.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
But anyways, beside the point you say, you got it,
the way that NBA teams look at this is they
judge guys by where they are at their age. Right,
So let's say you're an older college player, like when
you're twenty three years old. They're looking at the other
twenty three year olds in the NBA and how you
compare it to them as opposed?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You don't compare because if you did, you'd be in
the league. Right, So that that's why you know.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I mean, now that Michael Jordan is no longer the
primary owner of the Hornets, I feel like this. I
don't think it matters too much because that was the
one thing you can count on if you had a
good tournament.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Michael Jordan and the Hornets. We're gonna take a look
at you.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Michael Kik Giltrist, Frank Kamensky, you name it right, You
go on a run, Michael.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Take a look at Rson, Adam Morrison. They had some
rough ones. He might have got it right with Miller,
we'll see. But you see he didn't go on a
run though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no he didn't. He didn't
play well in the tournament. You're right about that. Where
are you at on this, Rob Ge? I mean, I look,
I enjoyed the tournament for what it is it really,
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I mean, I understand these guys aren't. Like it's not
like it.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Used to be, where it.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Was big names in it, it was future NBA stars
in it. Now it's just exciting because the games are
really close, and you see a lot of upsets and
so many games are going on at once, and it's
the tradition of the tournament all that.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
But it's not.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Because oh there's Larry Johnson getting he's killing him. Oh
oh there's Grant Hill doing this thing. Oh there's James
Worthy and Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Like, it's not that anymore. And I accept that.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
Yeah, And that's one of the issues with college basketball
is that the stars are no longer developed so that
you have like some kind of relationship with them. I
guess the biggest name in college basketball right now is
zach Edy and Zachie.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Who's not gonna have much of an NBA career right
and he will play, but he'll be on the bench somewhere.
Speaker 9 (29:37):
Yeah, And even on a smaller scale, depending on which
mark draft you look at, he's either a late lottery
guy or he's a second rounder. So it's not like
it's not like he is. Well, just on the ESPN
article of the Sweet sixteen teams that are left, they
have three guys that they projected on the lottery Edie
is one, Tennessee's Dalton connect and Yukon's Donovan Clinging, and
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then they have three other guys who are still in
the tournament who potentially could go late first round. So
what you're saying is of the best teams supposedly that
are left in college basketball, only seven players total or
even first round material. No, Like, it's like, if you're
if you're a an NBA fan first and foremost and
(30:22):
a college basketball fan second, which I believe is most
of our listening audience, Like, what is your incentive then
to watch the college tournament?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
If none of these guys are.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Gonna be says, well, I'm gonna be honest. I said
some things that in then Mark, you can go, but
I said some things. But honestly, I think for most
people at this point sad to say it's the gambling.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Well, I think it was always. I think that's the business.
Now I think it was always I don't think, but
I'll push back on that.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Obviously, gambler has always been a part of it, but
I'll push back in that. To Rob G's point, it
used to be, I mean, we knew the college players, Martin,
and I'm not even this is not a negative. I'm
not saying it as an insult, but you really probably
don't remember when the best players, like the future NBA
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stars were in the tournament.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Oh, I mean they were in college.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
For three years and you knew year to year who
the best players were, and it was I mean, it
was great.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
But that's totally changed. So I think that was a
draw right there.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
But obviously gamble has always been a part, but I
think that had a big part to do with it too.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
But even I mean, don't get me wrong, obviously knowing
the star players is a major, major piece of it,
but in terms of watching the tournament in general. This
is something that has been gambled on. And I don't
necessarily mean the way that gambled on means in today's
day and age, like with you know, player props, so
and so forth. But everybody in a mama was sawing
out a bracket and joining the office pool and doing
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all that type of stuff. So like that that that's
still gambling. It's just a little less of a less
aggressive than what we see these day and age.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, I mean, and to the Zach Edy point, I
mean Luke Garza, Luca Garza. Remember him dominant at Iowa,
six ' eleven two, won a Wooden Award, a Natesmith Award,
two time All American.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Will you heard of him in the NBA?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Like he was He was arguably the best player in
college basketball, but played four years at Iowa.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Now he's on the bench in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I mean, I hope he ends up having a long
career because that's a big question mark for him. But
that's where we're at and that'll be the case for
Zach Edy, I believe. All right, Moro, couple coming your way.
Chris Bruce R. Martin Weiss is in for Rob Parker,
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Speaker 3 (33:11):
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Speaker 3 (34:07):
You like it.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
But last night the Lakers, Martin, you know what's interesting.
I mean, the Lakers have actually been playing really good basketball.
They've won five straight, they've won seven of their last nine.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I mean, they've played well for months now.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
And they cannot make any headway in the Western.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Conference still the ninth seed.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
That little period towards the turn of the calendar December
and January just really really hurt them really bad.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, and I tell you what that's also now.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Look, Milwaukee is a is a very good team. Boston
is a great team. We'll see, you know what they
end up doing in the playoffs. Miami come playoff time
is just a force to be reckoned with. But honestly, Martin,
this show you the difference in the conferences.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Lakers just can't climb because everybody else above them is
winning two and a lot of those games they're winning
are against the Eastern Conference teams, Like the Lakers are
forty one and thirty two and they're the ninth seed
in the West. Guess what seed they would be. They
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would be the sixth seed in the East, the eighth
seed in the West. Sacramento would be the tie for
fifth and again, that's playing a tougher schedule, that's playing
a Western Conference schedule.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
So the Western teams, you know, it's a deep conference.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
But last night, you know, Lebron put up a triple
double with no Anthony Davis. They won a big game
against Memphis. Every game is big because they're playing for
a playoff position or play in position. And Lebron said
afterwards Martin that the most important thing for them was
not where they're seeded, but is he healthy?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Him and ad what's their health? Like, I agree with him.
I don't.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Look, I don't think they can beat Denver, but I
think they can have a nice playoff run. But it's
all contingent on Lebron and Anthony Davis being healthy. Well,
I don't care who they match up with in the
first round, they gotta have them healthy.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
And then two Also, I think this a structure of
the playoffs helps a team like the Lakers, right because
you're not playing back to backs, you have days off,
you know, So it gives Anthony Davis and Lebron the
rest that they're going to need because, like you said,
this is a two man show and both of those
guys are gonna have to show up big time for
the Lakers to do anything similar to what they did
last year.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I do think their supporting cast is good.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Like, I am not of that group that says, oh,
they need more help. No, d Angelo Russell is a
nice third or he might be the fourth option. Austin
Reeves is a nice third option or fourth option, whatever
you want to call him. Rui Hachamura, they got depth,
(37:10):
Prince Christian Wood Denwitty, Now, I mean, do you agree, Like,
I think they have a nice and I'm not saying
they're gonna win the win the West, but I'm saying
I think they have a good supporting cast.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I mean, I think they're they're fine, but I think
i'd probably check a couple of guys over like I'd
probably take this different supporting cast over them, like obviously
Denver has I mean, I'd rather have.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
In a vacuum.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Well, Michael, But Michael Porter Junior is not the smartest player.
I mean he now he's improved in that area and
on that team, he's a very good player. But they
fit together. That's part of it too. How do your
players fit? How do they accept their roles? You know,
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does the ball move? Are they touching at every possession.
That's why Denver is so good individually in a vacuum,
those guys are awesome.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
All right, We did a couple. Good job, Martin. We
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Speaker 3 (00:58):
Don't look now. That used to be big. You know,
people in sports used to.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Say way back, don't look now, but an upset is
in the making, Martin. I don't know if you have
the TV on in the studio. Clemson, the sixth seed
up sixty five fifty eight with six minutes to play
over second seed at Arizona, and so far the top
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eight seeds in the tournament have advanced Martin, and it
looks like we could get our first number two seed bounced.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
But you know, obviously a lot of game left, and
you know how the arch Madness games go generally down
to the wire.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And if you're a gamblee guy like me.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
You're like, wait a minute, why on earth did I
just bet on this twenty year old kid at best
to make this decision.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I wouldn't bet on Arizona. Huh No, I didn't. I
didn't bet on anything.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I'm just saying that's that's generally how I feel, because
I'm thinking and then every time I lose a bet
on any college sport and think about myself in college
and how little I would have bet on me to
do anything so right when I.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Was that age. I would have done it wrong too,
I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
And also in the NBA, Martin, I don't know if
you're seeing this, New Orleans is putting it on Milwaukee
fifty six forty in Smoothie King Arena or the Smoothie
King Center.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I was trying to tell you me. I was like,
I'll ask carry Kettles about it. So I like this
New Orleans team.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Man, I know they don't have brandon Ingram, but Zion
is finally looking like like the promise that was.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
That was made when he was drafted.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
He's finally starting to look like a guy who can
be a day in, day out impact player.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah, I mean to your point, he look, he may
be maturing. What he did early in his career was inexcusable.
I mean we can say, look, he was young, and
that's just a fact.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
He was young. Maybe he hadn't didn't understand things.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Maybe he had to get knocked down a few pegs,
you know, to wake up and hopefully this is something
then that will continue really for the rest of his
career or at least the rest of his prime, because
he's obviously got a ton of talent and he's showing
it and rebounded even a little better. He's still not
killing it on the glass like you might expect, but
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in March Martin, he's giving you twenty four seven boards
and five assists the game on sixty three percent shooting.
And so you know, in today's NBA, where the driving
lanes are open, that's one rid way. Lebron James is
scoring so much because he's the drive. It's just easier
than ever to drive. You can't hand check the floor spread,
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so there's lanes wide open. And Zion, who doesn't shoot threes,
he's taking one to three pointer this month.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Martin, that's fine still, but I'm fine with it too.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But I'm just saying that because he's such a great driver,
that he's taking advantage of that, which is smart. So
all right, let us go to uh the Golden State
Warriors again started to show with them talking about the
madness that Draymond Green exhibited yesterday and being ejected less
(04:09):
than four minutes into the game. But let's look at
it from a different angle, or look at the Warriors
from a different angle. They're the tenth seed fighting for
dear life to hold off the young Houston Rockets.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And I emphasize young. Okay. I did it for a
reason because next year, presumably.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Those Rockets are going to be better, and that still
would only make them the tenth team in the West.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Right, so Memphis probably going to be better.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh, Joba ran back right or yeah, I definitely better,
but I think they'll be back in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Mix. San Antonio.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
You know, Wemby's only gonna keep improving and we'll see
if they're ready to fight for a playoff spot. But
they're certainly going to be better too. So my point is,
where are the Warriors going? Where are they going? Like
next year? We talked to Anthony Slater of The Athletic
(05:11):
who covers them earlier.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They could get rid of Chris.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Paul's thirty million dollar contract, probably gonna be a tough
to trade, but you try to see if you can
get some good parts for it. But likely they might
just have to release him. Clay, Yeah, I would bring
him back at a very low number. But if I
have to part ways with Clay, I gotta part ways
with Clay. I'm sorry. That still will not give them
(05:37):
cap room to really do anything significant, all right, And
so they are not looking like a chance really a
team that's gonna be able to compete for a championship
for the next several years or for the remainder of
Steph Curry's you know, while he's still playing at a
high level. I do think Jonathan Kaminga could be a
(05:57):
future star. He's playing very well. I do like Trace
Jackson Davis. He plays well he's you know, he's a
nice player. He's not gonna be a star, but I
think he is a nice player who maybe can be
a starter. But still they're not gonna be in that
championship mix. I don't believe, And so do you. What
(06:18):
do you think Steph Curry should do? I don't even
know if I should ask it that way because my
view Martin, while I would love to see him be
in a situation ideally in Golden State, but if it
had to be somewhere else, so be it where he
could compete for championships.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I would just defer to him.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
If he's fine with where he's at, and hey, I
want to be a Warrior for life, and if we're
not competing for a championship my last four years, three years,
whatever it is, I'm fine with that. So be it
is his life, it's his decision.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And you heard Slater say he thinks he doesn't think
Steph would leave and hasn't given Indie indication of that.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But what what do you see of this?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Do you think the Warriors can get to a place
where they can contend or or that he'll have to
go elsewhere to have those those possibilities.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I mean, at this point, I think it would take
some level of you know, a guy who's kind of
you know, we should see more of this more frequently,
But a guy who was signed on in the end
of their careers or near the end of their career
to try to win a championship, like like when Carl
Malone went to the Lakers, right and Gary Payton. But
you know, it's like, I think that is probably what
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you're looking at as probably where you can find like,
I don't know, just off the top.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Even in that situation, Shaq and Kobe were still in
their prime. Yeah, but I mean as Steph's I mean, Steph,
I guess you want to say he's at the tail end.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Of his prime.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Yeah, I tell you he's at the tail end of
his prime, if nothing for nothing else besides his age.
I don't think his game has waned in some great way,
But I don't think he depend on him in the
same way, Like like Steve Kirch said just a couple
of days ago, He's like, I can't run Steph thirty
five minutes a game anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
He's thirty six years old, right, the same.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Way, like the Lake, the Lakers may probably like they
have to depend on Lebron so much if they have
more around him and be a little bit of a
different story. But at this point, for Steph, you know,
the fan in me wants him to stay in Golden State.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I like, well, I like, I like it.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So you rather him stay in Golden State and not
compete for championships then go elsewhere and have like be
in the mix again.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Yeah, because at this point, I think, you know, only
one team can win it every year, and I think
his legacy as a lifelong warrior, he's already got two rings,
I mean three rings at this point, the ring fourst boom,
there you go. Even more so he's already got the four,
so you know that that right there, I mean, he's
first ballot Hall of Famer. I'd like to see them
build a statue outside of Chase Center that.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Way, But even if he went somewhere else, they building
a statue.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
But I'd like to see him retire a warrior, even
if it means that, you know, his his days winning
championships are over, because what would be truly sad in
my opinion, he leaves Golden State Kevin Durant and then
never sniffs the finals again, ll I think the.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Difference there would be that.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Steph, first of all, he's built a winning legacy that
Durrant's wins aren't aren't comparable to.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Right, Like Steph is the architect of a.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Dynasty, whereas Durant just went somewhere and played great. Don't
get me wrong, but he hopped on a train that
was already heading toward championships and had even won one.
So I think that's different. I also think because of
the age, like Durant now has been wayward as far
as winning in his career for now what how many years,
(09:53):
four or five years, six years now, uh, maybe five years.
So Steph at because he's third five already, He's not
gonna wander in the wilderness like Durant has for five
more years. It's just he's not gonna play that long.
And so I think that's that's one difference. But I
think this, and you brought up some Obviously, Steph's the
(10:16):
first ballot Hall of Famer. Many people view him as
a top ten player of all time. I tend to
view him as that. So his legacy is incredible already.
I guess it comes down to, like is he more
like Lebron? Like Lebron's legacy is set two, but Lebron
(10:38):
is still driven to win championships. And I get it.
Lebron has a very tangible goal in front of him.
Some people think he's already accomplished it. Most don't. But
that's goat. Steph is not in that goat conversation, but
he is in the goat point guard conversation. And if
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he went somewhere else and won a championship and he
had five, I mean, then now again, he might be satisfied.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And he he could be with all he's done.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
And it's not like these are official rankings, right, It's
not like he's officially going to move ahead of Magic
Johnson or something like that. But in the discussion, in
the public discussion, which is stronger now than it's ever
been because of shows like ours, talk shows like First
Things First and et cetera.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
That's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
So I mean, you know, you get what I'm saying, though,
like I don't think like I hear you on the
romanticization of staying in one franchise your entire career and
how great that is. But times have changed, and I
don't think if he went to I'm what's who's close?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I mean, if he went to.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Say, let's shay hypothetically speaking, the Warriors traded him to
Minnesota for Mike Conley and a couple other players in
some tacks, right, like a team that is, you know, young,
but you know, a near in the top half of
the West competing, got another star next to him, right
with Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Like I think he led him to a champion. See,
I think the key would be what type of role
did he play? If he's just kind of a.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Role player averaging fourteen points a game and it's Edwards
and Kat carrying them and you know he's just doing
this little bit part that's different. You're right, Like, that's
to me not worth it. Gary Payton is an all
time great player, But that championship in Miami doesn't really
change his legacy. Jason Kidds championship in Dallas. I mean,
(12:45):
he's he's already got a great legacy, Hall of Famer,
but that one championship doesn't like change his legacy. It's
how what did you contribute to it? And that's I
agree with you if that were the case. But if
he were to go to Minnesota to give them twenty
five a night and Anthony Edwards is giving them twenty four,
(13:05):
twenty six something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Then that's a whole different story. Yeah, you see what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I just think we're at the place now, like Steph
Curry can win you a series, you know, but I
don't think he No.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
But he wouldn't be alone. No, But I think he
can with the right pieces around him.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
So but it's like, where is it. What's the level
of right piece? Because like if it not like like
you just like if he were in.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Minnesota now, obviously they might have to give up some
of it, and that's a that's a pipe dream anyway,
because you know they don't want to part with any
of their their core. But just hypothetically speaking, if he
were there with that team and won a championship averaging
twenty three twenty four points a game, you don't think
that would change his legacy?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I don't or add to it. I should saying I'm
sure would add to it. It would add to the mystique.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But again, and now that's that's all we're talking about
at this point, is adding to the mystique.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
But I just think it would be a negligible adds
as impressive as winning a championship is. It's not like
he's Damian Lillard who's never gotten over the hump and
this with his teams. If the Milwaukee pulls it off
this year, then boom, that changes Damian Lillard's entire stature,
right like Steph Curry's.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Just he's a made man. He's a made man. But
you're all.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
But their levels to this and whether or not it
would you know, make you and I wonder about it.
Some people would say that's it. He's past magic. He's
the greatest point guard ever. Some people might say this
was the Steph Curry era? How can it be the
(14:36):
Lebron era when he only won four in twenty years
and Steph won five in whatever, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years,
And some.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
People will be dead wrong if that's the case. Like
I'm just saying that.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
And now that might not matter to Steph because, like
it said, all it is is talk. It's not they're
no official rankings and things like that, so maybe it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
But I'm just saying that is.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
The type of discussion, the types of conversations that would
be being had if.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
He were to go somewhere else and win. I wouldn't
say that. If I'm step I'd go in there and
be like, it's Draymond or me? Now what Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
But I mean even if you do that, are you
you winning?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
You're not winning now?
Speaker 4 (15:20):
No, Like Draymond is his friend, he could be frustrated.
But if it's if it's just the difference between the
ninth seed and the seventh seed, what's the big deal?
I mean, I hear you, I'm not mad at Steph.
If he's like, man, look, I'm just gonna I want
to be a Warrior. I'm gonna play out the string here.
Kobe did that with the Lakers. It happens. A lot
(15:41):
of guys have done that.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
It's not a big and for me, I just like
it when you see a guy stick it out with
his team. Like and because the Warriors have been Stepf's
team whole time, and it would just be odd to
watch him as a Trailblazer or a Timberwolf or a
temper or you know, you name it, a Pelican.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It just be weird to Shaun he live in the
Western Conference Finals. It's odd seeing them as the ten
see Martin Weiss eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox
You'll turn the way in. Would you like to see
Steph go somewhere else and start competing, you know, get
on the team where he can compete for that fifth championship.
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Steph go to another team so he can compete for
more championships?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Your thoughts, Let's go to Raphael and Cincinnati. You're on
the odd couple on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
What you got what's going on?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Bros? No, definitely not. I would want to see Steph
go anywhere else. I feel pretty confident that he wouldn't
want to go anywhere else as well. I think he's
loyal to the Warriors organization, the owners, coaches, players, fans,
and I think he's to be quite comfortable in knowing
that his legacy is cemented, and if it were to
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be a fifth championship, he's gonna do it with what
he got right there. But I think eventually he'll retire
in the probably about maybe two more seasons. I've seen
and uh, I'm probably being elected official there in California, all.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Right, if he uh, I mean he could he could,
but we'll see, he.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Hadn't talked about that has he's going to Terry in Atlanta.
You're on the odd Couple Terry.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
Yesterday I tuned in and I hear our boy Rob
Parker talking about how Kate Lee Clark could play in
the NBA, and it was like, what is this guy
talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Right?
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Could you? Could you imagine Draymond or Patrick Beverly Kaylee Clark?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
But but it was an embarrassing take for Rob. Yeah,
I hate to drag her even into this because it's awesome,
but come on, man, let's.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Just you know.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
So Bruce.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
Today, I tune in and my man says that it's
not going to change Steph's legacy at all. If he
wins another ring. If he wins another ring brings him
to five, that would be more than Lebron in the
Lebron era, and it wouldn't change anybody.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's where I disagree with Mark.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Not I agree with you that like the degree, we
can argue over the degree to which it might change.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
But Martin, it would change.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I think it if anything very slightly, very little, I don't,
honestly don't.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
You don't think he can move any high it changes?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I don't because I think he's definitely. I say he's
top ten, others don't. If he were to get to five,
it's undebatable whether or not he's top ten.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
I already got him top ten, so that's like I
have him now top ten. That's what I'm saying. The
difference between eight and seven is not is not? Is
not that big to me?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, but maybe if he wins another I mean, some
of it depends on how it was won.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
But if he wins another one as the leading guy,
I mean, but.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Today I gotta take umbridge with Terry from Atlanta, because
you're comparing that take to Kayler Clark at the NBA.
One of those is those two things are not the
same path.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
That is true. He put you in some bad company.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah, I'm about to say, just because I'm in the
same seat as Rob Parker is.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Normally no no, no, whoa, whoa woa. Don't you do that?
All right?
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Moro, couple coming your way, Keep it locked. We're gonna
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Speaker 4 (20:50):
Martin Weiss, you of who you have stated now that
you outplayed DJ Augustin.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. I didn't say all of that.
Well that's what I heard. No, I know my Team
one is going viral.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I don't know if you've checked Twitter, but Augustin is like, yo,
what I said?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
My team won thirty seven on dude. No, honestly in
the l No, Chris, this is really the truth. DJ
Augustine was the first guy who let me know I
was going pro and something other than sports.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
That's the fact.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Because he came in a summer league game with a
soft cast on his right hand, running clock to twenty
minute halves and scored a cool forty shooting free throws
left handed. And I mean he's only like a year
older than me. So we were playing against each.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Other basically playing left handed.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Left hand Chris, I had never seen nothing like it.
To this day, I was like, this dude is the
best basketball player I've ever seen in my entire life.
And after that, I knew that there was no way
I was ever going to get to that point. So
I was just playing for fun. But we ended up
but I had a good basketball team in high school.
I was when I was a Jesuit. Really you started,
(21:56):
I was off, I came off the bench, but I
was Yeah, I was on the team.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Of course I was on the team, So I was
good tack. I got to play. Okay, Okay, how far
did y'all go?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
We would uh we never won the state championship, but
we would generally get to maybe we win two or
three playoff games.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Okay, So that's that's good in Louisiana. Yeah, we're all
in down there. You know, I'm from Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
How about I got piece down there to check you out?
Check out too, and see if what you're saying is true.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Go for it. I know this.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I played against this gangly kid who went to Helen
Cox and then after Katrina moved to Michigan, I was
checking like the rival stuff. And this is back in
two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, as I
was cheating with where my class was.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
What was happening.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Turns out that gangly kid from Hellic Cox turned out
to be Greg Monroe. Had a like six to seven
inch growth spurt in between the last time I saw
him in his senior year in high school and how.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Good was he when you saw it. He's still figuring
it out.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
He was still figuring like he's kind of kind of
kind of I mean he was too, he was tall,
and it was you could see that.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It was he was.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Learning his body still. But I mean he had to,
don't get me wrong, he was time that game.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I mean, he didn't obviously didn't have the career that
he could have.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
He just you know, I think his temperament held him
back a little bit, you know, because he had.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Skills, and the league changed a bit too.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
The league kind of changed on him kind of overnight
because if he you know, he was back to the
basket type guy and then all of a sudden, everybody's
got to face up and have dribble moves in that
that way, No.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
And that's that's the thing. Some people are getting caught.
Some people have gotten caught in that, you know, the
switching of the league.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
So no, that's fair.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
All right, speaking of the league, let's go to the
NCAA tournament and talk about like what the NBA scouts
when they look at these kids.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
What they're looking for.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Now we've talked about already, Uh, what three of the
top five picks, and some mock drafts are from international players.
Another one you can throw in their is from one
of the minor league's G league or whatever. And so
the best player aren't certainly not every year playing in
(24:03):
this tournament. But what are the NBA teams looking for
when they scout players in this tournament?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Rob g. There was a story written about this recently,
that's right.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
ESPN dot com spoke to several anonymous NBA scouts to
discuss just how much the tournament helps or herds at
players draft stock, and surprisingly enough, the scouts were pretty
much split on it. However, one thing that they did
seem to agree on was that tournament's success only really
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matters for young players.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
And this is what I mean.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
If you're a young player, if you're a freshman like
the guys from Kentucky and your team disappoints like they did,
they don't really hold it against them, like, hey, you're young,
you're nineteen, you're not expected to play well in the
brightest state.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Rob Dillingham for example, exactly.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
And last year Brandon Brandon Miller Miller, Yeah, he who's
had a nice little rookie sea.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
But on the flip side.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
If Kentucky and Dillingham had made a deep run and he,
you know, maybe gets the Elite eight or something like that,
leading Kentucky, that would be seen as a massive positive
in his regard because as a freshman, he's playing his
best when his best is necessary against the best competition.
So that's number one, but number two, and this is
probably most important. According to these scouts, One thing they
agree on is it's mostly just confirmation bias. If you
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like the kid coming into the tournament and he performs well,
then it's like, hey, see, I told you everything I
said about him is true. He's a really good player's
gonna work well in the pros. If he didn't like
him and he doesn't perform well in the tournament, then
see I told you this kid can't play. And that's
why we're not gonna draft him as high as some
other people might.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Yeah, it's interesting obviously this year or not just this year,
but going forward in the tournaments, you gotta be careful
because Kerry Kittles was saying, you know, a lot of
these guys are twenty two, twenty three years old, but
they're not NBA players, right.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
So that's why I think for young kids.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
If a young kid goes berserk in the NCAA tournament,
you know he's doing it against older guys even though
they're not NBA caliber.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
He's still doing it against grown men.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
If another twenty one or twenty two year old does it,
you gotta be careful.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Like the general public might go berserking.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Oh gosh, did you see so and so he's averaged
twenty seven in the tournament, got his team to the
final four. But NBA scouts have gotta look at it like, yeah,
but he's doing against guys that are his age, that
aren't going to the NBA.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
So what's he gonna do again? Like the best players
his age are already in the league.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
So I think that's something that you really have to
take into consideration if you're a scout.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Well, especially in the in the NBA, because so much
of it is projection, right, That's why you look at
these mock drafts, and hell, just look at drafts history.
All these guys are freshmen, right, Almost all the top
ten guys are freshman, top fifteen guys are freshmen right
when they're looking at who's gonna And part of that
reason is because you can get them at nineteen years
old and see where they're going to grow.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Right.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
It's all about the projection of it. And Gilbert Arenas
made a good point on his I don't even know
if you call it a podcast whatever he does this show,
that's the best way to phrase it because it's on video.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I've only seen the video. I don't even know they
do audio thing.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
But anyways, beside the point you say, you got it,
the way that NBA teams look at this is they
judge guys by where they are at their age. Right,
So let's say you're an older college player, like when
you're twenty three years old. They're looking at the other
twenty three year olds in the NBA and how you
compare it to them as opposed?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You don't compare because if you did, you'd be in
the league. Right, So that that's why you know.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I mean, now that Michael Jordan is no longer the
primary owner of the Hornets, I feel like this. I
don't think it matters too much because that was the
one thing you can count on if you had a
good tournament.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Michael Jordan and the Hornets. We're gonna take a look
at you.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Michael Kik Giltrist, Frank Kamensky, you name it right, You
go on a run, Michael.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Take a look at Rson, Adam Morrison. They had some
rough ones. He might have got it right with Miller,
we'll see. But you see he didn't go on a
run though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no he didn't. He didn't
play well in the tournament. You're right about that. Where
are you at on this, Rob Ge? I mean, I look,
I enjoyed the tournament for what it is it really,
(28:38):
I mean, I understand these guys aren't. Like it's not
like it.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Used to be, where it.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Was big names in it, it was future NBA stars
in it. Now it's just exciting because the games are
really close, and you see a lot of upsets and
so many games are going on at once, and it's
the tradition of the tournament all that.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
But it's not.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Because oh there's Larry Johnson getting he's killing him. Oh
oh there's Grant Hill doing this thing. Oh there's James
Worthy and Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Like, it's not that anymore. And I accept that.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
Yeah, And that's one of the issues with college basketball
is that the stars are no longer developed so that
you have like some kind of relationship with them. I
guess the biggest name in college basketball right now is
zach Edy and Zachie.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Who's not gonna have much of an NBA career right
and he will play, but he'll be on the bench somewhere.
Speaker 9 (29:37):
Yeah, And even on a smaller scale, depending on which
mark draft you look at, he's either a late lottery
guy or he's a second rounder. So it's not like
it's not like he is. Well, just on the ESPN
article of the Sweet sixteen teams that are left, they
have three guys that they projected on the lottery Edie
is one, Tennessee's Dalton connect and Yukon's Donovan Clinging, and
(30:01):
then they have three other guys who are still in
the tournament who potentially could go late first round. So
what you're saying is of the best teams supposedly that
are left in college basketball, only seven players total or
even first round material. No, Like, it's like, if you're
if you're a an NBA fan first and foremost and
(30:22):
a college basketball fan second, which I believe is most
of our listening audience, Like, what is your incentive then
to watch the college tournament?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
If none of these guys are.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Gonna be says, well, I'm gonna be honest. I said
some things that in then Mark, you can go, but
I said some things. But honestly, I think for most
people at this point sad to say it's the gambling.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Well, I think it was always. I think that's the business.
Now I think it was always I don't think, but
I'll push back on that.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Obviously, gambler has always been a part of it, but
I'll push back in that. To Rob G's point, it
used to be, I mean, we knew the college players, Martin,
and I'm not even this is not a negative. I'm
not saying it as an insult, but you really probably
don't remember when the best players, like the future NBA
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stars were in the tournament.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Oh, I mean they were in college.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
For three years and you knew year to year who
the best players were, and it was I mean, it
was great.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
But that's totally changed. So I think that was a
draw right there.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
But obviously gamble has always been a part, but I
think that had a big part to do with it too.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
But even I mean, don't get me wrong, obviously knowing
the star players is a major, major piece of it,
but in terms of watching the tournament in general. This
is something that has been gambled on. And I don't
necessarily mean the way that gambled on means in today's
day and age, like with you know, player props, so
and so forth. But everybody in a mama was sawing
out a bracket and joining the office pool and doing
(31:57):
all that type of stuff. So like that that that's
still gambling. It's just a little less of a less
aggressive than what we see these day and age.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, I mean, and to the Zach Edy point, I
mean Luke Garza, Luca Garza. Remember him dominant at Iowa,
six ' eleven two, won a Wooden Award, a Natesmith Award,
two time All American.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Will you heard of him in the NBA?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Like he was He was arguably the best player in
college basketball, but played four years at Iowa.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Now he's on the bench in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I mean, I hope he ends up having a long
career because that's a big question mark for him. But
that's where we're at and that'll be the case for
Zach Edy, I believe. All right, Moro, couple coming your way.
Chris Bruce R. Martin Weiss is in for Rob Parker,
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Speaker 4 (33:02):
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Speaker 3 (33:11):
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So you go, that's right, that's right. Good run.
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Speaker 3 (34:07):
You like it.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
But last night the Lakers, Martin, you know what's interesting.
I mean, the Lakers have actually been playing really good basketball.
They've won five straight, they've won seven of their last nine.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I mean, they've played well for months now.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
And they cannot make any headway in the Western.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Conference still the ninth seed.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
That little period towards the turn of the calendar December
and January just really really hurt them really bad.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, and I tell you what that's also now.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Look, Milwaukee is a is a very good team. Boston
is a great team. We'll see, you know what they
end up doing in the playoffs. Miami come playoff time
is just a force to be reckoned with. But honestly, Martin,
this show you the difference in the conferences.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Lakers just can't climb because everybody else above them is
winning two and a lot of those games they're winning
are against the Eastern Conference teams, Like the Lakers are
forty one and thirty two and they're the ninth seed
in the West. Guess what seed they would be. They
(35:24):
would be the sixth seed in the East, the eighth
seed in the West. Sacramento would be the tie for
fifth and again, that's playing a tougher schedule, that's playing
a Western Conference schedule.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
So the Western teams, you know, it's a deep conference.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
But last night, you know, Lebron put up a triple
double with no Anthony Davis. They won a big game
against Memphis. Every game is big because they're playing for
a playoff position or play in position. And Lebron said
afterwards Martin that the most important thing for them was
not where they're seeded, but is he healthy?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Him and ad what's their health? Like, I agree with him.
I don't.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Look, I don't think they can beat Denver, but I
think they can have a nice playoff run. But it's
all contingent on Lebron and Anthony Davis being healthy. Well,
I don't care who they match up with in the
first round, they gotta have them healthy.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
And then two Also, I think this a structure of
the playoffs helps a team like the Lakers, right because
you're not playing back to backs, you have days off,
you know, So it gives Anthony Davis and Lebron the
rest that they're going to need because, like you said,
this is a two man show and both of those
guys are gonna have to show up big time for
the Lakers to do anything similar to what they did
last year.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I do think their supporting cast is good.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Like, I am not of that group that says, oh,
they need more help. No, d Angelo Russell is a
nice third or he might be the fourth option. Austin
Reeves is a nice third option or fourth option, whatever
you want to call him. Rui Hachamura, they got depth,
(37:10):
Prince Christian Wood Denwitty, Now, I mean, do you agree, Like,
I think they have a nice and I'm not saying
they're gonna win the win the West, but I'm saying
I think they have a good supporting cast.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I mean, I think they're they're fine, but I think
i'd probably check a couple of guys over like I'd
probably take this different supporting cast over them, like obviously
Denver has I mean, I'd rather have.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
In a vacuum.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Well, Michael, But Michael Porter Junior is not the smartest player.
I mean he now he's improved in that area and
on that team, he's a very good player. But they
fit together. That's part of it too. How do your
players fit? How do they accept their roles? You know,
(37:58):
does the ball move? Are they touching at every possession.
That's why Denver is so good individually in a vacuum,
those guys are awesome.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
All right, We did a couple. Good job, Martin. We
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