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August 11, 2026 35 mins

Kelvin Washington and Ephraim Salaam filling in for Rob Parker react to the Sophie Cunningham making a statement about white privilege being weaponized within the WMBA, and there are certain people you can't hate even when they give their body, heart, and soul for their craft! Plus, some crazy YouTube comments you don't want to miss!!!!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
That's right, our number three, number three, number number three
on The Odd Couple. Kelvin Washington, E for Salam who
is and for Rob Robin Atlanta National Association Black Journalist Conference.
I'll be there in a couple of days. Shout out
to Mike Hill. Join the show. He'll be there as well.
Appreciate him. Jerry Harrison Junior joined the show. Appreciate Jy

(00:52):
Hare as well. So we've got a lot already in
the show. We still got a lot to get to
this hour. We gotta talk about Scottie Pippen at some
point here. I just we gotta get in today. Pip,
just Pip isak. He just can't ever just sit down somewhere.
He is in the category of just go sit down somewhere, Pip,
because please. So we'll talk about that. We'll get last
call coming up here a little bit as well. And

(01:14):
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got to get to this, rob g. We talked about
it with Mike Kill a little bit. Inside the w NBA,
there's a whole lot going on, a lot of commotion,
and so specifically when you have the issues that are between.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Dijon A.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Carrington and also Stephie Cunningham and I mean, my gosh,
think pieces everywhere, thesis, I don't care the sours dissertations.
I mean they're coming from everywhere, and a lot of
people have a lot to say about really the last
seventy two hours or so.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Yeah, Unfortunately dejon Day Carrington doesn't want to clarify what
she meant by it because in case you're living on
a rock, of course, over the weekend she had a
hard foul on Sophie cunning Im you just mentioned it
got her across the net head and neck area. It
gets reviewed upgraded to a flagrant too, she gets ejected.
She doesn't speak to the media after the game, Carrington,
that is, but she went and posted on her threads

(02:27):
wow white privilege tags Indiana fever. So of course you
mentioned think pieces below. Everybody's got a thought on it.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 6 (02:34):
So on.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
She only responded to one of the think pieces that
would be from Emmanulacho. He goes on a ninety second
rant upset about her use of the term white privilege
in this specific instance, and his discussion was what happened
on that foul and your subsequent ejection had nothing to
do with white privilege. Here's how she responded on X

(02:58):
I've never once claimed that the assessment of the foul
was white privilege. That was your assumption. Try exercising your
critical thinking skills. I know you studied psych Furthermore, I'm
the last thing from ignorant or assini when it comes
to speaking on white privilege. Do your research on that one.
I actually went to school one of the top universities,
might have add to educate myself on this exact subject.

(03:21):
I would never use that term as a rhetorical weapon,
knowing the historical and social way it holds, without having
the proper evidence to substantiate it. People of course commented, well,
then what did you mean by it?

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Cricket?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Since then, so I have to play to your point,
rob Gie, she didn't really address specifically, you know, when
she said white privilege, then she said what she didn't
mean by that. I'm going to jump out on an
assumption what I believe she meant by that, Ephrom. I
don't think she was saying white privilege is that I
got kicked out of the game. Because if we do
a love research, you know, Sophy Cunningham was kicked out
of a game last year for a similar thing, and

(03:58):
people were kicked out you name, you want NBA, you
want WNBA.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
People get kicked out of games. That's par for the course.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
So I don't believe it what she was saying for that,
if I'm taking her for her wordy, from what I
believe she was saying is that had I did this
on the Meganomaka or you know one of the you
know Kid Jackson, Asia Wilson, a black player in the WNBA,
If I did this to one of them Chelsea Gray,

(04:26):
would this be a talking point?

Speaker 4 (04:28):
And I think that's what she's saying.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
If I filed Chelsea Gray hard file, we might get
a little push blackform push back, and for I might
even get kicked out of the game. Who wnba tonight
might talk about it, but it won't make the shows,
it won't make the rounds. And I think what she's
saying is the privilege of if I do a hard
file on you, Sophie Cunningham, on you, Caitlin Clark. Now

(04:49):
it's the biggest thing. It's racial. I don't like white people.
All of a sudden it's become a thing, and now
everybody's talking about It's on every social media, everybody's got
think pieces.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
And I think that is what she's saying.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
If I have to read between the lines, and you
know again, because she didn't specify to Robi's point, so
I don't think it was singularly saying I filed you, I.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Get kicked out.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
That's white privilege, because I think if you again, the
same exact person who she filed, Sophie cunning had, was
kicked out of a game last year. I think she's saying,
you can't even do hard files and basketball anymore. That's
what we did, Bill Lamber, filed any and everybody including
you name at all time, Grace, Doctor j Larry Bird,
Robert Perry, Michael Jordan, everybody got to smoke. Now, at

(05:30):
one point, did we say he's racist? Draymond Green stumped
Sa Bona's right in the chest. You didn't say he
was racist. You might have said he was a dirty player,
but you never said he was racist or it was
all racial and all those kind of things. So what
I think she's saying is, dang, I foul old girl hard.
Didn't mean to hit her in the head, but I
filed her hard. It happens. But now it's all of this,
I'm racist. I don't like white people. It's the biggest thing.

(05:52):
When if, again, if I hit a black player in
the WNBA, what would be having these conversations.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
And I think that's what she's saying.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
And I think there validity to that in the sense
that five hard files happened every single game, and you know,
pick the NBA, high school, college, NBA, w NBA and
we don't make a big deal about this, And I
think that would be again Kelvin reading between the lines.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
Okay, Well, I'm going to disagree with you there, and
I'm not going to read between the lines, especially when
you've drew the lines, You've created the lines. We wouldn't
even this wouldn't be a think piece or talking point
or any of those things. If she didn't immediately after
the game go on to threads and put white privilege,

(06:36):
we wouldn't even be having this conversation. So what are
we talking about? It wouldn't be a topic. It would
half the people wouldn't even known that there was a
hard foul and she got kicked out of the game.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
That's the whole point.

Speaker 7 (06:51):
Because she went and put white privilege on and then
tag the Indiana fever. That's why this is a talking point.
That's why we're even up here talking about it, right,
So what's lost in translation is if she did mean,
if I would have done it to another black player,
we wouldn't even be talking about it. Well, we weren't

(07:13):
talking about it until you said what you said, and
that's the whole point. Don't go on and respond to
people making comments to your comments telling them that they
don't know how educated you are and they don't know
what you're talking about. When you yourself created this. You start,

(07:38):
you went on and put white privilege. If you didn't
say anything, if you would have wrote hard file as
a hard fil and kept it pushing, this wouldn't be
a story. And that's the problem I'm having with the
WNBA as a whole now right, not just the players,
but from the leadership on down. There's two much non

(08:01):
basketball conversation happening surrounding the WNBA. Who's dating, who, who's
married to? Who transgender? This, It's so many things that
are happening that's pulling away from the game. Casual fan
is like, I'm good, I'm just gonna get and watch
something else.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah. No.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
So Rob and I have talked about this quite a
few times. I completely agree with that, but I do
think the problem is where we are societally with how
we address things. So, for instance, what I mean is
if you roll out a highlight of just pick a player, right,
let's just say it's angelies for this topic.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Well, the first thing, she ain't Caitlyn Clark. It has
nothing to do it. She just made a nice lay up.
She ain't Kaitlyn Clark.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
No, no, no, no, no, and oh oh and things obviously as
you know, they turn racial. Then I got to come in,
not literally me, but so I got to come and
defend her. And then you got to say And it's
gotten to where it is so toxic and it makes
no sense when it's just again, it'll be just the
highlight of a three, a rebound, a block, a steal,
a game winner, and everything in the comments. It is

(09:09):
amazing how toxic and divisive it has become. And it's
to me it makes no sense because it's just simply sports.
But to your point, now, any player says anything, I
like pizza, not fried chicken.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
It's a thing. I like this, even political things.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
My point is why it's become If someone says it,
it becomes heightened. Now right now, it's become a big thing,
and it's on and on and on, and I think
that's how the league is covered, even more so than
just simply the league. Like the league itself. I don't
think I've been critical of them. Rob g knows this.
I don't think they've handled things right. I don't think
they were prepared for prime time when Caitlyn Clark came,

(09:48):
andeurrees came, eyeballs came, scrutiny came, criticism.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Came all of that. I don't think they were ready
for that.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
But I do also think there's people Mike Hill touched
on this with us moments ago. There are people who
are not fans of the WNBA who you would think
they're the biggest fans. With the amount of time they
scroll and look for things to comment, to troll on
and make everything political.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
It is a mind boggling thing.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
When they don't really like the game like that, they
don't really watch the game like that, but they love
the interaction. And one thing I've learned over the last seven, eight,
ten years, ephrom, you know this cloud is a new
currency and people.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Boy, I told Rob g this.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
There's somebody I know personally who over the last five
or six years, when a certain administration took over, he
started to become a little different.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
And then he started to troll things. And again, it
could be a video.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Just a bucket and he'd be like, oh she would
Kaylyn and he just started trolling to the point I
was like, what is this? And I asked him one day,
I said, hey, man, what like and he said, oh man,
it's crazy, I'm doing numbers. And his whole point was
he realized if I mentioned Angel Reese on a Kaitlin
Clark thing, Kayln car hit the agiskin. Never if I
mentioned Kaitlyn Clark on the names of rees thing, I'm

(11:03):
gonna do number And we've gotten to where people are
willing to just do whatever, start whatever, rile everything up
just to cross chaos because I got one thousand, ten
thousand likes on this this thing, or I got you know, oh,
then somebody put my comment on the blog.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
And that's to me part a large.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Part of where we are problem with the WNBA, because
it's not the NFL. It's not the NBA where you
have this standard of people been watching and enjoying it
for decades.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
At that rate.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Right now it's hate watching, it's trolling, and it's it's
ruined it. As you mentioned, for the people who are
just fans, or people who just want to experience, or
people who want to become new fans, it becomes exhausting.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
Yeah, you shouldn't be up there asking coaches about their
opinion on trans athletes playing in the league. That's not
what right like during the season, even before the game though, Yeah,
this is what I'm talking about. What are we doing there?
Used to be something called media training. Anyone who wanted

(12:01):
to get into media went through certain training, especially athletes
coming from others, you know, retiring from their sports. They
used to have media training. That is no longer a thing.
Anybody can be in the media. That's what social media
has done, that's what streaming has done. That's there is

(12:22):
a reason why there's so much divisiveness now, there's a
reason why things can get misconstrued.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
There is a reason why.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
Opinions now vary and swing like a pendulum because everybody
has a voice, and everybody doesn't need a voice.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Everybody has a microphone now, right, And.

Speaker 7 (12:46):
So these are people who never have been media trained,
who just decide I want to give my opinion on things,
and look, everybody has their opinion and all of that,
but when it reaches to the masses and things starts
stirring up, that that's rage bait, right. People are now
looking for hot takes and things to do to push

(13:08):
buttons because like you said, those give you numbers. And
what that does is it throws off the system. It
throws off the system, and when the system is thrown
thrown off, then there's turbulence in every turn. And the
WNBA hasn't gotten a handle on this. Too many voices,

(13:28):
is too many things being said, and now every little
thing is scrutinized, and every little thing is taken you know, two, three, four,
or five six different left turns, and now you don't
even know what we're talking about, the fact that this
young lady comes on and puts white privilege out there
and then sits back. She lights the match, throws it

(13:48):
in there, and then sits back, and let's let's us
talk about it right like that's you would have been
taught as a look, I'm gonna give you. I know
we got to go to break. But I was playing
the game. We were playing the Kansas City Chiefs, I believe,
and Trent Green was a quarterback and I was with Houston,

(14:11):
and Trent Green had peeled back and hit one of
our defensive linemen illegally clipped him, took his legs from
underneath him, and he knocked himself out, and our d
lineman was standing on top of him pissed because he
literally could have you know, broke his both his legs.

(14:32):
And then after the game, Trent was put in an
ambulance to take it to the hospital, you know, because
he was out and I was sitting next to the player,
and they let the media come in right before our
head of media and could come over there and grab him,
and every single camera went right to him. Turn it

(14:55):
on live, what tens? How do you feel about what happened?
And travl he stood up and he said, you know
something he shouldn't have said. Then our media guy came
in as okay, and then then he took him away.
Then he came back and made a statement, these are

(15:15):
the situations that are happening on the daily with the
W like things like this, These fires are being set
and we're out here fanning the fires and all of that, Like,
how can you make a statement about how intelligent you
are and you know what this is and you know
what that is, and then all you do is put
white privilege and then step.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Back intextualize what you're saying.

Speaker 7 (15:39):
You step back and tell us that, oh, y'all don't
know what I'm talking about. I'm educated on this, y'all not.
Why would you, Why would you even put that out there?
What are we doing?

Speaker 4 (15:53):
The only you're right?

Speaker 3 (15:55):
But this is the thing though, from I think there's
been a collective of three four years of this, like
at building where players again, players, I think the w
NBA and I think even the media nobody knows how
to handle that. No one was prepared for how radicalized
the WNBA would be, you get what I mean, where
it would just be you got again I mentioned I

(16:17):
think you have a lot. I think the large amount
of people who speak on WNBA on social media, like
you mentioned combinat do vlogs, don't even care about the league.
They just know when I do this hot button topic
is gonna jump. And so what's creating is an algorithm
where oh, if you're looking for WNBA and fo or
you're in the hoops, it here you go and it's
it's wild takes, craziest takes, political things, racist things all

(16:40):
and you know, transgender things all in the middle of it.
And there's no just real good hoop content, or at
least to the masses at at a high level. And
I think it's it's catching players off guard because, like
you said, players over the last few years have a
gat microphones in their face and they're thinking it's about
to be hey, you had a triple double to night,
but instead it's say it's two teams that had nothing

(17:02):
to do with Kayler Clark or Andrey and it's hey,
Andrew Reese was fouled hard last night became the carr
What did you think of that? You're like, what, I'm
with the dream on a dream and I'm playing the
links tonight? What they got to do that? And I
think that to your point, the media is going crazy
with oh, let me get the juicy thing and ask him.
Is not hey, you had twenty four for night points
to night the shot was going, what did it feel like?

Speaker 4 (17:24):
None of that?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's let me ask them, Hey, how do you feel
about transgender athlete?

Speaker 4 (17:28):
What do we do? That's a game?

Speaker 3 (17:33):
What are you talking about? I don't know what. That's
a deep conversation. I don't have an second answer for you.
And is doing nothing to regulate that. It's just it's ridiculous.
And the thing they do is they suspend coaches for
saying things that weren't racist. If you recall Uh calling
Andrea protect the species, when if you did any research,

(17:54):
you realized she's Australian and that is an extremely common
phrase there. It sounds a little bad. I'll give you that.
But over there it's very common. But instead of having
like a dialogue and say hey, we just rather you
not it doesn't necessarily translate here in the States that well,
they suspend her and so now you got her looking
like she's racist. It's just been it's been a mess too,
and I think it's disappointing. And two other people are

(18:15):
adding to this mess. And we'll tell you who they
are and what they're trying to do on the other side.
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. That's the number.
But we'll tell you tell you a little bit more
about these. We talked about it with Mike Hill, a
couple other guys who are just trying to add more fuel,
as you mentioned, fan fuel to the ad fuel to
the fire, fan the fire. We'll do that. It's the
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A couple that I say, for this specific moment, I
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Why? Man?

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I got Actually I'm wanting to take him to school.
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I can't wait. I'm trying to get back to being
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Speaker 6 (22:21):
Barry Bond's home run.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
King uh as on this crusade against Jerry Rice for
some reason because your Hall of Fame conversation hour one,
Okay says, you know Jerry Rice, you stick him and
he were first ballot.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
A lot about that, Ephim. Everybody used to.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
Because you would be holding too much.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
You get first of all, I never held.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
Oh that's a lie. You want you want to check tape.
We can check tape.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
You know we got Yeah, you know it's a lot
of you. We have spygate on them Falcons too, you
know that, right?

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (22:51):
And then someone was wighing after the Cowboys conversation, Courtney
Miller says, I'll give you a sleeper team in each division.
The Browns, the Viking, the Panthers, the Niners, the Giants,
and the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Take his phone.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
About that one. About that one who is not mad
at the one.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
Courtney Mill they won the division last year. That's not
going out on a limb within.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
His going the worst division and Division two football.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
I think what he's saying is they will be better
like that instead of just winning something to eight eight
and one, they could be like maybe tenants, you know,
Tennants seven or something like that.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
But then Courtey doubled down with another terrible take talking
about the Hall of Fame. They should call him Luke Cheekley,
Luke Keikley's cheeks? How dare they put cheek Lee in
over them?

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Ok? You went wow? Now you went too far.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Luke Keikley was awesome. What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Some people you can just absolutely have zero hate, Like
what can you negatively say about Luke Keickley?

Speaker 4 (23:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Short term career, balled out every year, Pro Bowls defensive player,
Like what what is Look, there's certain people like we
just you don't have to hate, just have to be controversial.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
And then he has that was.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
That it might be the last play of his NFL
career where he gets concussed.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
I think, yes he is, and he starts crying because he.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Knows he is over.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
He knew it was like, how could you be mad
at that guy? Can't put everything, he gave everything to it.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
There's certain people I'm just like, Okay, we'll be doing
like what we hating on that dude that don't even
make me?

Speaker 5 (24:17):
And the last one, Cosmo says Jesse that Glizzy Jesus
that Glizzy is crazy.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Rogie, we gotta get you to church. You didn't call Jesus,
just no.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
He wrote it and then he corrected it out was
Jesse out of control?

Speaker 7 (24:30):
Lizzy is crazy? Please stop putting that over my picture?
Can you put that over Rob's picture? Like you you're
putting it Elijah, you're putting it up there and the
Glizzie just superimposed over my face stopping from.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
No, that's a little while, actually what you think about it?
But look how you got to eat it though? Show
me how you would eat that? Uh? Rob oz? Wow, Rogie?
What about you? What wout you? Kevin? How what would
you do? Well?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Listen, I told you that man eating gizzies no buns
at least he can. We're gonna have the Glizzy in
the buns. Okay, I ain't got three kids.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
How would you hold it?

Speaker 3 (25:07):
No, they're not going No, I'm not that Hey, well
we just talked about last second. I ain't that desperate
to go viral and get the clout with these, Okay,
Alex would.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Hold gizzi man so tenderly? Oh did you grab the microphone?

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Is out? How you're doing.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
Your two hands?

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Just make sure in one.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
Hand, not even from eleven feet talk. He cannot fit that.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
Way, no way participating in them the gobble swallow him.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Was the last time you had a good Glizzy?

Speaker 7 (25:41):
No?

Speaker 4 (25:42):
No, but you know, but we have a we have
a group of group chat.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
We have somebody in our group chat who's a Glizzy Glazonator.
All right, like they and it's either hot dogs or donuts,
right you donuts around But he wants to the twist
a long the long John's a long Yeah, big ass
long ice cream.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I'm like, bro, what I'm on?

Speaker 7 (26:12):
What is this fixation about holding the food and eating
like what it was?

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Right?

Speaker 7 (26:16):
The Rainbow Glcinator we called him the Glsonator strikes again.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah you can't you know what, you just can't even
eat food.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
In twenty twenty knife and fork, Ephraim, nobody was knife
and fork and hot dogs our whole not then last decade.
But now you have to You tell him, you get
a banana, you don't peel it up to get a
banana and just eat it nice and slowt.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Nope, gotta break it off. What No, That's what I'm saying.
You got you gotta peel the banana and then.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Break it up and bite his sideways.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
You can't even you can't do nothing nowadays.

Speaker 7 (26:52):
Man, No, God, Lee, No, nope, Sorry, we had some
wild times, bro.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Sorry guys.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
You can barely drink out of a straw, all right,
you got.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
By, No, you really can't either. They've roast people you
use a straw like that. I can't even use a straw, man.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
I'm not about to let these people.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
In fact, I'm about to become the antid because at
a certain point, all right, this is getting ridiculous. All right,
Well that being said, somebody else is ridiculous with his statements.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
I can't keep up.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
You talk about when the wind blows, You're depending on
what he'll say. That's Scottie Pippen. We will tell you
the latest with him on the other side right now.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
I low be sure to catch live editions of The
Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at
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Speaker 4 (27:36):
All right, appreciate you, Illo, have a great night.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Odd Couple, Kelvin Washington e from salam And on Magic
City Monday. Hopefully everything's been good for you and yours again.
Check out the YouTube if you get a chance.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
We're on there right now streaming live.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
We got last call coming up here in a little bit, uh,
Rob g Scottie Pippen.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
He's had more to say.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Now he's going out and he's back and forth by
Lebron because depending what year with month you talked to Scotti,
he's going to say Lebron's to go. He's gonna say
Lebron second, third, four, fifth, Now he's got more to say.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Yeah, depends if it was before after the last dance,
it'll change his whole perspective.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Well.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Most recently he was on the Patrick Bette David podcast.
I don't have heard about that one, and it was
a normal conversation for the most part. And then the
idea of Lebron James jumping teams to the sixers led
to a very interesting conversation.

Speaker 9 (28:22):
They listen, would you put yourself ahead of Lebron team standpoint?
Would you put yourself ahead of Lebron as a team standpoint?

Speaker 10 (28:29):
My success as the team is more successful than Lebron.
I got six rings.

Speaker 9 (28:33):
Okay, so then if I if I talk to an
NBA owner. By the way, this is very helpful because
this was very helpful because for me as a fan,
I've followed this. So if I speak from an NBA
standpoint owner and I want to find an all around
player to be my number one, you think the average
owner is going to pick you or Lebron, I don't know,

(28:53):
got it?

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (28:54):
So that you want individual accolade, So you want championships
because I chase minds.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Okay, this is my thing with Pip.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
I have no problem with Pip defended himself. I had
no problem if he, you know, talks about what he
and the Bulls did. My only thing is a double
minded man is unstable in all his ways. Depending what
I mean by that, ephram Is. I'll give you an example,
Charles Barkley. Right now, let's say the playoffs were going on,
and let's say the Spurs are playing and they're playing
some team and they shoot twenty threes in the in

(29:27):
the fourth quarter?

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Was it? I told you, man, shooting all them threes
is terrible and it's gonna make that's chuck.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
He's always been standing on that, right, and you got
and you got other texts. He's gonna say, right, he's
not a fan of the team. Hopping on it. My
point is, at least you know that's chuck with Scotty,
I don't know what I'm gonna get dependent on the podcast.
Lebron's a god because he did this into it. Lebron
ain't nothing because he did MJ the best because he

(29:53):
did it. MJ wasn't nothing without me. MJ is the
goat without me, Like that's my only thing I don't
like about, and I hate to see kind of the
older generation O heads, you know how it goes start
to go out bad towards the end, and Scotty's starting
to go out bad where you don't want to hear
from him because it's not gonna be a well thought out,
seemingly legitimate take because he's just kind of going with

(30:16):
who I'm mad at today?

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Or what clip press clipping did I read?

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Or oh I rewatched your last dance last night, so
now I'm mad at Mike again.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Oh wait, me and Lebron were.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Cool because we were hanging out at the Nike of
or you know what I'm saying, and that drives me crazy.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
If he had a stance and this is just how
what I believe.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I believe players who hop teams, but dah da da
da da dah or I believe individual accolades are better
because blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
I'll be cool with it all, right. Cool. For instance,
Isaiah Thomas is going to the grave hate no Mike.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
They've been hating on each other for thirty forty years.
They get you know where he is. You know, when
you asked Zeke something, he's gonna tell you what you
kind of expected to be.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Scotty.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
That's just fair weather, lickt your figures sticking in the
air sea with the win gonna blow.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
That's how he's gonna feel today.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
And I just hate that part of it all, especially
a guy who is so decorated, who we hold in
such high regard.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
I hate to see him going out like that.

Speaker 7 (31:06):
Yeah, we you know, relevance is something that's a good
point that sometimes we find ourselves chasing. And once you
become the guy that they know, they can get these
type of soundbites from. Yeah, and you'll always be plugged
in and you may get a kick out of that, right,

(31:29):
And so that'll that's why you see the sharp turn
in opinions, right because whichever way the win is going,
that's the way you want to go or the opposite
way you want to go because you want to be sensational,

(31:50):
you want us on a national radio show to talk
about it. And so here we are talking about Scottie Pippen.
Scotty Binn was a phenomenal player, right, phenomenal, one of
the greatest true player who played both ends of the court. Right,
But Scotty pimp has never won MVP. Scotty Pimper has

(32:15):
never won Defensive Player of the Year, has he? Scottie
Pippen has never led a team to a championship. He's
part of a championship team, an intricate part of a
championship team. But if the Bulls didn't have Michael Jordan
and just Scottie Pippen, would they have won a championship?

(32:36):
Or we've seen that it didn't work. Remember show up,
come back? Remember that? And so same team mind you, MJ,
just playing baseball, same team, no championship. MJ comes back
three in a row. So when you start comparing yourself

(32:58):
as a great player to all time great players, you
have to be careful and you have to be cautious.
Every GM on the planet Earth, every GM on Saturn,
Venus Mars and wherever else they play basketball and whatever
galaxy they play in that we don't know, would pick

(33:23):
Lebron James to start their team first over Scottie Pippen.
That's not even a question. Scottie Pippen would pick Lebron
James over himself. Yeah, for sure, right, Scottie Pippen Junior
would pick Lebron James over his dad to start a team,
because what you know you're going to get is you're

(33:46):
going to get twenty four years of twenty two plus points,
six rebounds, six assists for twenty plus years. Who wouldn't
sign up for that? And oh, by the way, you're

(34:08):
going to have someone who's going to outscore any other
great player who's ever played. Call it longevity or whatever
you want. He's damned you're about to have forty thousand points.
No one's ever coming close to beating that. And that's
the guy you wouldn't start your team with if you
had to pick between Scotty, Like I said, great player,

(34:30):
Lebron James, all time great player and my top three
of all time great greatness. So yeah, and everybody, but
that's what But everybody's got opinions everybody's gonna pick whatever
they want. You know, somebody walking around like Karl Malone
is in the top three, like, well whatever that is, right.

(34:50):
I'm not here to argue that because my opinion is
what I look for in a superstar.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
But that's my point, Apram, is that I've been next
to you, and your point has remained the same. And
that's what drives me crazy about Scotti is that we're
all over the place.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
The wind doesn't.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Blast the way exactly, and well you're too heavy, too big,
you know, but I just the way. Look, the wind
is strong, but relaxed, and ain't that strong. We gotta
have a tornado to move you.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Wrong.

Speaker 7 (35:22):
I just I don't like the way you that's uh
body positivity.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
And I don't spelt okay.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Felt, but yeah, I just yeah, I just thought, okay, Scotty,
come on, like I love to think of the greats
as you don't held them here? Why all that stuff, Scotty,
just keep up, stay away from Mike, because every time
I start you, you're coming down a little bit Scotti
for me, and I don't want that
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