Michael Jordan Isn't The Only Liar on The Dream Team

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In the first hour, we're gonna talk to Paul de Luca,
the fourth time Major League Baseball All Star, talk about
what's going on with baseball and the negotiations trying to
get this thing started for July fourth. We'll do that,
but first, Jonas, let's welcome in the Odd Couple crew.
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us updated throughout the program as well. So we got
everybody in full effect, and let's kick it off, Jonas,
with major League Baseball and what's going on, as far
as there's the behind the scene stuff, what's happening, and

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then there's the public stuff. Yeah, and you know that
just because, like a lot of people, they got all
worked up when they first heard the players bark and
the owner's new proposal and oh my god, there's not
gonna be any baseball. They're so far apart, and I'm like,
this is what they call negotiations. Am I right? Or yeah,

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it's the way it goes. You're gonna hear one side's
offer first, and they're gonna try and play the public.
And whenever this stuff gets out and it gets public,
it's it never looks good and it never reflects good
on the people who have the decision to counter offer
or reject a current offer because they look greedy. It's
why we've talked about it before Derek Jeter's final negotiation

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with the New York Yankees, a team he had been
with his entire life all twenty years. Oh my god,
they were brutal, they were very contentious. Derek Jeter was
pissed off. But this is part of negotiations, no doubt
about it. And I think from this damnpoint, this is
you know, I mean, could there not be a season? Sure,
it could not be a season. They missed a World

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Series in nineteen ninety four. But this is to me, Jonas,
I don't baseball, and I'm talking about either side can
afford to do this. Can you imagine what kind of
blowback it would get if this summer we have no
baseball because this squabblin over money when people are all

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out of work, people are furloughed, people are in dire
straits financially. Do you do you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
rich people aren't dumb. Rob Okay, they understand. Rich people
aren't dumb. They realize if you shut this whole thing down,
it's a bad look. But what's happening is the Players
Union is doing what they've done for years and years,

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and they're establishing themselves as the best union and professional sports.
And it's not even close. Yes, and it's the best
union I think in this country. It's it's not even close.
You can't even you can't even debate it. You talk
about totally together at all times. And what Major League
Baseball's owners are trying to do is dividing conquer Have

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you noticed that both proposals that have come out have
been from the owner's side, and then the details of
the proposals have come out in the middle of a pandemic.
So it makes these highest paid players in baseball look
like bad guys if they turn down seven million dollars,
because everybody out there is thinking with their wallet and
not the wallet of a player who signed a contract

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for thirty five forty million dollars a year. That's from
the owner's side. You notice how in this latest proposal,
the top paid players are really really punished as far
as taking a salary cut, but it's the players on
the bottom who aren't hit as hard. What's that called
divide and conquer. So the players on the bottom of
the pay scale are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Maybe

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this isn't such a bad thing. And then you get
you get players arguing with each other, and then there's dissension.
It's why the Players Association has been so public about
we're disappo disappointed, we are this, we are that, it's
all about we. They totally believe in unity and they're
not going to let these guys divide and conquer them exactly.
And so you're right, and so you hear some of

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the stuff. It doesn't sound promising, but Jason start from
with the Athletic now and he used to work at
the old network, and Jonas I think he he made
a point which is really good. It ain't just about
this year that you're talking about. It's about next year
as well. And if this year doesn't come off, next year,

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Mookie Betts isn't getting a four hundred million dollar contract,
do you know what I mean? And most of the
players don't have deals for next year, so there'll be
no money coming. I mean, there's a whole big thing.
So you gotta work the salvage this year and then
be able to be ready because the CBA comes up, right,

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it's next year that they need to start working on
a new one. So this is uh something. I think
both sides will have to work to get this thing
ironed out because it is imperative. Imperative that there is
Baseball is summer, Jonas, and listen, players don't want to
set a precedence that they're willing to work with owners.

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Players don't want to set a precedence that they're willing
to work with owners in this situation because if you
remember Rob, we talked about at the time, Manny Machado,
Bryce Harper, how long those guys had to wait. Scott
Boris going public about how upset he was at the
idea of these guys not getting an opportunity to be
paid what they thought they were worth. You had guys

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like Jake Arietta, you had guys like Craig Kimbrell, you
had all these other players that had to wait until
after the season to get contracts. There's been a slow
delivery from owners on this. They've waited and waited and waited,
and players and the Players Association have spoke out about it.
They understand that owners are trying to rally together so

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they don't have to pay as much for some of
these players. And because of that, this is where we are.
The players know they can't absolutely cannot break apart, especially
right now. And the big issue that I have is
when people in the media or people in fans think
that players are being ungrateful because they're not willing to
take a fraction of their salary based on what is happening.

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You can't look at it like that. You can't look
at everything based on what's in your wallet. I learned
that early on. I remember talking to a guy who
was a sales manager at a telemarketing job that I had,
and he said, my biggest problem is when I quoted
somebody a price that was kind of high. I cringed.
You could hear me cringe over the phone. He said,
why do you do that. I said, well, it's a

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lot of money. He's oh, no, no, it's a lot
of money for you. A thousand dollars is a lot
of money for you. But rob My point on this
is when fans are critical of these players for not
wanting to accept these lower salaries. I understand where they're
coming from, but they're also coming from their wallet, and
they're not thinking about what the players are going through,
their risk and what their financial gains are beyond this year. Yes,

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they're wealthy, but if you set up precedence right now
and you let owners know that you can, if you
can get one up on us, then you've completely broken apart.
The union owners have already tried it. Manny Machado had
to wait how long to get a contract? Bryce Harper,
Craig Kimber went into the season Dallas Kigel. Owners have
been doing this slowly but surely over the past couple

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of years, and the players aren't going to take it
any longer. It's no doubt about it. There's been too
much sacrifice over all these years. And I get it.
I don't. I don't expect the players. Everybody thought, Okay,
the owners will come and throw a contract on the
table in the Union and go, okay, let's go. When
do we play it? Doesn't work like that. You gotta remember.

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But here's the other nugget that I think is important.
We've had twenty six years of labor piece in baseball
twenty six years. Can you believe that? Yeah? I mean
that is believable. You know how contentious the owners in
the players union has been bright in the history of baseball.

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So for us to go twenty six years without a
work stoppage issues or whatever. I don't believe in this
pandemic that this is the time or the place to
break that streak. I just don't. Yeah. And I also
don't think because the owners are trying to play sides here.
And one of the one of the points that I
was making just a second ago was people can't judge

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these guys based on what's in their wallet. You can't
do it because look, you know, seven million dollars, that's
a lot to me. Okay, that's a lot to anybody.
I mean, christ, seventy dollars is a lot to me.
That's a lot to anybody. But just because it's a
lot to you, doesn't mean that every player should think
like you. They're thinking big picture and they're thinking, okay,

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if we cave now, what then on the backside of it,
and owners have already started to do it, like I saying,
and I think too often fans look at what that
money would mean to them as opposed to putting themselves
in the shoes of the player at that time and understanding, Okay,
if they give here, the owners are going to assume
that they'll be willing to give down the road. And

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because of that, and because of their willingness to stay together,
it's why they've had that twenty six years of labor piece.
Because the owners know they can't get one over on them,
because the players have stuck together this entire time, and
they have to this time, regardless of what anybody likes,
regardless of how bad it looks quote unquote, players have
to stick together. The owners going public with these details

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is them trying to manipulate the fans in the media
and win the pr battle and try and get you
to think that the players are being greedy when the
reality is it's their spin on the story and they're
making the offers that are going public. And that makes
me wonder, why are these offers going public because there's
an ulterior motive by the owners. Yeah, whenever you could
put money out the players. David Justice was on his

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show not too long ago Jonas, and he said, it's
never gonna look good for us no matter what we
say ever, because of the money they make, and it's
just it's just a totally different end. Joe Blow and
us regular people. We just there's no way that we
can relate. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I
get it. So when people always try to try to

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quite their salaries to play, I just say, dude, that
just a losing battle. I was. I was telling this story.
I was in a telemarketing job doing over the phone
sales and I had a sales manager say to me,
why do you do that? I said, do what he's all.
Every time you give somebody the price, when they ask
you what it is, I can hear you cringe. And
I was like, well, it's a lot of money goes. No,

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that's a lot of money to you. For that person
on the other end of the phone who's got a
business card. That's a drop in the bucket. Stop cringing
when you hear that number. Stop thinking about your wallet.
And I'm telling you too often we're thinking about our
own wallets when we see what these players are making.
It's a different stratosphere, it's a different world. It's not relatable,
it's not even relatable to the owners. But the one

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thing that is transparent is the owners are trying to
play you right now, and that you have to ask
why that is because they're trying to win the PR battle.
I'm still confident that this deal gets done. Where are
you on this? I am yeah, No, I think it'll
get done because, as you said, I I think that
they realize if you don't get it done, then both

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sides are terrible. If you can't get it done then
and it's going to hurt them financially. I mean especially
I think the players next year, if you don't have
a you don't make any revenue of Baseball's and eleven
billion dollar business with the B with the B, so
there's no way that you can if you if you
go a year without making any money, it's gonna be ramifications.

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There'll be teams that will go bankrupt, right yeah, file
Chapter eleven or whatever they file for such a business
and it will sting and willing and the people. I
feel bad about the people. I feel the worst about
the people behind the scenes, the people selling concessions. The
people doing that work for these teams, work for these stadiums,
who are out of a paycheck. Some organizations have been

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willing to pay them through the end of June, and
then what happens at the end of June. I mean,
what are we talking about then? Like that? It's it's
it's bad, and it runs deeper than just the players
and the owners. And I wish people looked at it
all the way through instead of just the dollar amount
that shows up on the screen. All right, we want
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The only hard part figuring out which way is easier. Um, Jonas,
let's hear what people have to say if they chime
in on this baseball the negotiations. Are you starting to
pull against the players when you hear this stuff leaked
about the negotiations and some of the comments coming from players.

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What about the Lawrence Lawrence and Orlando you're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Lawrence, what you got?
Thank you very much for having me gentlemen. A long
time listener called it a few times. It was great.
Thank you guys. Um I have a question, do you
guys want full salaries and do you want a baseball season,
because it seems like you're trying to have both. You
you're on the players side that they deserve their full salary,

(17:43):
but you want baseball this summer, but we can't have.
It's not gonna be one hundred and sixty two games season.
It's either either have one hundred and sixty two games
and you get and either have eighty two games and
get for Rid to pay, or you have no season.
We just wait till next year. So that's right from
from the from the from the perspective that you as
were saying, Yes, I understand that the owners are leaking information. Okay,

(18:03):
the players seem like seem negative to the fans because
of the amount of money they're making. But if the
contract for one hundred and sixty two games and you're
only going to play eighty eighty one, what's the problem
with paying getting paid for eighty one games? Yeah, okay,
so that makes sense except for the fact that they're
not doing that. They're taking a thirty five million dollars
a year guy, and they're only going to pay them
seven point eight million. So for like, what players are

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saying is if we're playing half the games, cut our
pay in half. But what is this we're cutting us
down to seven million? Why why can't a thirty five
million dollars a year guy get seventeen and a half million.
Why is it going to take an extra ten million
or top if you're playing but the season. But here's
the difference when they did the initial because you remember
they agreed in principle on the initial deal between the

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owners and the players. Yeah, but they didn't know there
were could be no fans, you know. That was that
was without the whole idea that there wouldn't be any fans.
And that's where the issue in the rub comes in.
Uh So, so, yes, I get it. If I'm the players,
I want to be careful. I'm not going to agree
to something that's going to hurt me in the long term.

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But I also understand what's happening in front of me,
do you know what I mean? Jonas? Like, I just
I get where the players are coming from. I'm sorry,
and I know this is this is probably gonna bother
a lot of people. But you gotta get over it.
You gotta get over your own checking account. You gotta
start looking at this. If if if somebody is telling you, hey,
you're playing, you're you're doing half the work, you would

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assume that you're going to get half the pay. But
if they come back to you and say, yeah, so
we want you to work half the time, but we're
only going to pay you for one half of that halftime, Well,
what the hell's that? Like? I'm how how many times
do we have to go over this? Right? But but
but the only difference is, and this is what I'll say,
is you are working half to time, but you're not

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working half to time as you have in the past.
You're not working with a full stadium and a paul
A lot that's full, and concessions and merchandizing. That is
not the same. So to just say that I'm still
playing half the games in front of nobody, I think
there's still has to be another concession now, whether or

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not you want to figure that out. If you want to,
jonas uh, you know, defer money until other money comes
in and we figure out where we are when it
is all said and done, how much to dan collateral damages.
I'm fine with that. Yeah, And look, and I get
the ramifications of no fans being in attendance. But if

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if I were the players, and if the owners came
to me and they said, all right, so you're making
thirty five million dollars a year, we're only going to
pay you seven and change, I would say, hold, I
would that. I would say, if I'm if I'm playing
half the games on a normal situation, I should be
getting about seventeen plus. But meet me in the middle. Okay,

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So so if that's the case, then how about twelve million?
Let the middle like, and that's where and that's what
a negotiation comes. Yes, I agree with And that's why
I think while people look at just the seven million dollars,
you also have to look at what that player would
have made and sort of factor that in. But I've
heard that the owners aren't even willing to really discuss

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what exactly revenue from stadium stadiums should bring in. They're
telling you that they're taking a hit, but that some
of that stuff they're not really being forthcoming. Let's say
that it's a part forty percent of the business. The
NBA acclaims the same that without the crowd. But let's
get squeeze one more in Jonas. What about Dave in
New York. You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What you got, Dave? Yeah, I just wanted to break

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this out. You guys were talking about the simple man
the poor people's pockets, so we just break it down
there for poor people. If I'm the owner of a
pizza place and I sell one hundred and sixty two
pizzas of the day, I'm selling paying my pizza delivery
driver ten dollars an hour. If I sell a million
pieces in the day, my pizza delivery drivers still getting
ten dollars an hour. I'm keeping all the profit. If

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I'm only selling eighty pizzas in the day, I'm not
walking up to my pizza driver like, hey, I'm a
little short today. I can only pay you five dollars
an hour. He ain't gonna take that. Oh okay, mister owner,
you only made so much today. I'm only you only
got to pay me five dollars an hour, that pizza
delivery driver is gonna quit. So you really can't put
this on the players. The owners take a profit. The

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owners take a loss. Yeah, it's I'm the owners, they
own the business. And Jonah's knock the hardest working man
on the ring. There it is there, it is Rob Parker.
What's that? I don't know his his phone cut off.
He was about ready to give me a compliment and
all of a sudden his phone cut off. The Hell's
that behind the scenes? There that was? I think that
was Alex Okay, can't do it. God forbid. I'm trying

(22:48):
to make a statement here. This is my statement day
and you're cutting off compliments on the air. The hell's
annus is my training? Now? Oh that's enough? Oh there
we go. All right, We're going to get into the
players perspective on this whole thing situation with four time
All Star Paula Laduca should say paul Laducah he joins
us next, but first, be sure to catch live editions

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it for Chris Broussard, and we are talking baseball and
jonas one of the other things that had come up

(23:31):
as we wait for Paul Ladoca. Paul Leduca is the
universal DH. And is it true that you love this
whole idea? You're cool with it? Love it? Tell me why?
I mean, didn't you grow up as a Cubs fan
National League Baseball. Why in the world would you be

(23:51):
in for this DH, because I don't. I don't want
to trade in a Ferrari for a unicycle. It's like,
we've got actual professor national hitters and then for some reason,
we gotta let the picture hit like it's it's a
clown show. Like half these guys barely know how to
hold a bat. Why are we doing it? It's it's
a waste of time. It's such an advantage for the

(24:12):
opposing team to know they can just pitch around guys.
If you want to see the sport more exciting, the
DH should be in both leagues. It offers another job,
and multiple jobs, as a matter of fact, to other
players to make it in Major League Baseball. Guys that
can hit but maybe aren't the greatest fielders in the world.
I just I don't see why we continue to have

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one league's got a DH the other league makes their
pictures hit. I just don't get. I get tradition, but
this is a tradition. They got to move on from.
What you don't get is that's how the game was
originally played. Everybody who's ever played baseball, mister Jonas knocks
all right, has played. So according to Rob Parker, everybody
who's ever played right, the picture is hit. That's the

(24:55):
way the game play. When you play, you pitch, you hit,
all right. So in Orlando, when the NBA season starts,
we're going back to peach baskets. They're gonna have peach baskets.
And then and then when when, when the when the
NFL comes back around, no face masks and leather helmets,
because that's how the game started, all right. We don't
want to evolve. Let's just let's go back to how
it was starting. Come on, man, I gotta get there

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our guest. This year, we've got the four time well
we'll four time MLB All Star Paul Laduka uh coming
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Slash credit scorecard limitations apply. Uh, Paul, Welcome to the
odd Couple here on Fox Sports Radio. How are you doing, Paul? Well,
thanks for having me again. We're doing great. And of
course he's default four time All Star and of course
with our Stool Sports he's a host. Helped me with

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the putting public negotiations. Some people are getting worked up.
Oh my god, there won't be baseball. Where are you
on this? Do you think that they will hash this
out and we'll have baseball maybe by July fourth? Paul Um,
You know, I don't know. That's a good question. The
guys that I've talked to, guys want to play the

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thing that you have here when it comes to baseball.
Rob and I have talked about this before with the Astros.
Thing and I told before is that the Players Associations
just got to strangle hold on the MLB. So I
they're gonna have to come to a reasonable decision of
what they're gonna pay the guys number one, because that's
just not gonna cut it. I'm sorry if I took

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my whole life and worked my butt off to get
to where I get to sign that contract. I want
to play for it. I understand these are trying times.
I get that, but that's just true life. Let's be honest.
Those guys want to get paid. I think the other
factor is when I talked to a couple of the executives,
there were more worried about getting to the season. And

(27:11):
then obviously you're obviously gonna expanding rosters. What if one
team gets infected and eleven or twelve guys getting infected
from that one team, Now do you stop and let
them quarantine for two weeks? You stop the season? Or
what do you do with that team? Or do you
have them or are they or is it just like
they got too many injuries you count him as injuries

(27:33):
or is it just unlucky. I think a lot of
executives are worried that maybe if one team gets contagious
and it goes over the roster, what happened to the
rest of the league. Did they stop or do they
go on? You know? He's Paula duca four time MLBY
All Star. He's a host at Barstool Sports, joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio, Rob Parker Jonas knocks in

(27:54):
for Chris Brussar, this is the odd couple here on
Fox Sports Radio, Paul, what makes the MLB Players Association
so much better and stronger than other sports, whether it
be the NFL, the NBA, c you know, they just
they've had it ever since, you know, when I signed
in nineteen ninety three, and it's just when Donald Fear

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was running it all the way down. They just always
have MLB can investigate m agents, So they sort of
got the agents in their back pockets because of course
they need to get agents cooperations. If a guy's didn't

(28:39):
two eighty fifteen and eighty, what do we price that
guy at? So a lot of people will say, oh, yeah,
are you saying its collusion, Well, it's definitely this collusion.
But the commissioner also caused that collusion when he let
anybody basically in baseball and at two seventy with fifteen
the way the ball is now, So you end up
making when you increase numbers, you increase number in money. Um,

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why so then you start doing that with guys? So, Um,
it's a tough question, to be honest with you. It's
a great question. Um, Well, isn't it? Paul, doesn't have
a lot to do with You guys have had beijor
League Baseball. When I say, you guys have had a
war chest to fight the owners. So if players are

(29:23):
hurting for money, they could go to the union and
get money. These other leagues have never had that. And
once they know you're not going to get a paycheck
and it's gonna that's when union's break, when people take money.
And I think that's been an advantage right that baseball
has had Baseball Well, yeah, the other part, rob two,
do you think about it? The TV contracts are obviously

(29:44):
going to be larger because why you're playing one hundred
and fifty two games compared to any other major sport,
or eighty one games or eighty two games in the
NHL and basketball, and obviously football you get your viewership
or you're getting to probably tell abuts one hundred and
forty after all of it, you know, with the blackouts
in here and there. So the television contracts are absolutely enormous.

(30:05):
So yeah, you make a great point there, um. And
the thing about it is that the owners are complaining
in the winding, but these guys they're they're not losing money.
I mean, they're losing money. But in the long run,
they're not going to be losing money. If they're gonna
be able to get away with cutting guys salaries sixty

(30:26):
per um, it's gonna be very interesting if they do
not play the season. What would happen some of these trades.
That'd be craziness. Well, I would think it would be disastrous,
not only just for the owners, but for the players
next year, because like a Mookie Bets would never He'll
never get four hundred. If there's no baseball for eighteen months,
it'll be it'll be damaging to the game. I do

(30:48):
want to say something else that's damaging to the game.
Even though Jonas Knox loves the idea, I'm not in
for the DH in the National League. I'm a traditional guy.
I love the strategy of the game. Where are you, Paul,
Are you in for the universal DH from here on out?
Or would you like it to go back to where

(31:09):
the league's is separate? Well? I would like to go
obviously with the league there separate. I mean, there's just
no strategic part of the game anymore. Anyway, if you
think about it, so now you've gone from the picture.
Can lick his lips his fingers on the mountain, Tom,
you can't really throw out a batter anymore, you can't

(31:29):
take out the second baseman, you can't run over the catcher,
and now you're gonna have a DH So why do
we why do you even bring a glove to the
yard anymore? I mean, I could put anybody out at
second base if if you think about it, if I
never had to worry about getting taken out at second base,
I could have played second basis it's good right in

(31:50):
front of the bag, because that's what guys do anyway,
right now. So they've made it such a soft sport
that they're gonna make it even softer and take the
strategy part about it. And again what I don't get
is the agenda when Manfred came in was we need
to speed up the game. And all he's done in
everything that he has done, the rules that he has

(32:13):
has made the game longer. And this is gonna make
it longer. And especially what if E Lefty comes in
the face Elefty, he has to stay in Phase three
batters the next two ridis behind are going to kill him.
So like it's like you're making up rules as we
go and changing the game. And it's just you're making
an arena baseball. But hey, is that what the fans want?
They complain about five hour games, You're gonna get five

(32:36):
hour games. And by the way, if you play him
out here in Arizona, because I grew up here in
one hundred and ten heat, the ball is gonna fly
in the ground, is going to be hard as a rock.
Guys are gonna be hitting three eighty out here. Paula
Duke is joining us here on Fox Sports Fred. I've
one last quick one for Paula Duke, obviously four time
MLB All Star. What is Who's the biggest A hole?

(32:57):
You play catcher for a long time, the biggest the
biggest a hole in the batter's box in your career
was who as in just like on the field, just
just just annoyed you when he came up to bat,
you were just annoyed his mannerisms that would say that
that was that was it? Rod just never fanned. So

(33:18):
that's a neat. That's an easy one, h That was
that after you called a pitch and he hit it
out the park? Well, no, I just I will forgive
everything as long as there's a fiat J lows. Uh,
that's all right, Paul, appreciate you, thank you so much
for the time. Thank you, buddy, Roba. Guys, Yeah, this

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in for Chris Bussar. I'm a woman, my goodness, and Jonas,

(34:26):
we would be remiss not to talk about what has
transpired in uh Minneapolis with the death of George Floyd
and um who was the black man who was basically
there was four Minneapolis cops, one with his knee in

(34:47):
the guy's neck, said he couldn't breathe. This poor man
uh died and these four cops have been fired and
this poor black man is dead and a lot of
times when we talk about stuff, Jonas, people, oh, just
stick the sports. You don't need to be out there
Colin Kaepernick and protesting and just play ball and leave

(35:12):
that for somebody else. And we can't do it, cannot
do it in this country. If you have a platform,
if you're able to get the word out, here's the
reason why you cannot remain silent when stuff like this happens.
I don't care who you are, Lebron James, Michael Jordan's

(35:34):
Tiger Woods. It could happen to any of us. It can.
These are the this happened with a video camera on
the police officer as he's kneeling in the guy's neck
and the guy's saying he can't breathe, calling for his mom.
I mean, Jonas, you saw the videos. It's sickening. I

(35:59):
wish I wish I hadn't have seen it because it's
so bad, and I feel terrible. And I feel terrible
because well, number one, for him that he went through that,
and I can't even imagine. I don't think anybody can
imagine what his final moments were like and how helpless,
but also the fact that his family now has video

(36:20):
footage of it that they're going to have to see
and they'll never be able to unsee for the rest
of their lives. That's what's awful about it. It's awful
just whatever the cop was thinking. I don't know if
the cop thought that, you know, if I have my
hands in my pocket and I just positioned my knee
on him, this will exonerate me from any sort of
police brutality. Little does he know, he's cutting off the air.

(36:42):
And we saw the guy live his final moments and die,
and it was recorded and posted all over social media.
Whatever the reason was, it was terrible. I feel bad
for the guy. I feel bad for his family. I
feel bad for so many people that have been either
falsely accused or been put in a bad spot just

(37:03):
based on somebody's past history with somebody of this, of
the similar color, or something like that, and them carrying
that with them to the next conversation or next meeting
with whoever it is. I feel bad for police officers
who do it the right way, who do a good job,
and now their name is tarnished because one cop got
too aggressive, wanted to be cool guy, and didn't realize

(37:26):
he was murdering somebody in the middle of a street.
It's all I'm glad you used that word because that's
basically what it was. It was the guys subdued. There's
no reason whatsoever, and so many other uh you know,
I told you my brother's an FBI agent. I've had nothing.
My family's full of cops in New York, okay full.
So I come from a police background and family, but

(37:48):
this is this bothers me. And the other part is
why athletes I applaud athletes who step out of a
conference zone and who are willing to speak up, is
because they have family members and people. They have been
stopped and harassed because they drive a nice car. Jonas,
I've been followed in the department stores. I've been stopped

(38:12):
by the police and not issued a ticket on just
the idea like, well, what are you doing driving here
at one o'clock in the morning in this neighborhood. And
but for no reason, these things have happened, and we
saw the videotape. We're lucky that we see these now, Jonas,
you know how many times these incidents have happened with
no video cameras and no videotape, And when a guy

(38:35):
comes in, it's the officer's word against the against the
person who's arrested. Who's who, if the who, if there's
a judge, who are they gonna believe the cop or
the guy who just got arrested. But they it's terrible
and the whole I don't understand racism. I don't get it.
You know this. My brother's wife is African American. They

(38:57):
have two kids together. She's been in our lives for years,
years and years. My fiance is Mexican. I don't get it.
It's not my thing. I remember living in the South
and doing a tour of Boon Hall Plantation in Charleston,
South Carolina, and they take you to the slave quarters,
and they take you to all these different places, and
I'm thinking this was actually a real thing, Like this

(39:19):
was actually a real thing. And when you see that
on video, you realize that's a real thing too. And
it goes beyond black and white. It's about humanity. And
a guy was killed on the street begging for his
mom and it was recorded on camera. I think, no
bravo to black athletes who will not sit silent, who
are going to let people know about this that this

(39:41):
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(40:47):
the official side piece of the Odd Couple back in
the straddle right next to you, man, I need a cigarette.
Oh my god, you are the official side piece. I
know we've been shuffling in it's been uh, you know,
we've been all over the place this week with Crispian
on vacation. But Jonas, Uh, you've done by far the

(41:11):
most shows when Chris or or I've taken off. So
it's uh, it's good to have you on on this
worship Wednesday. No, it's it's great to be here. It's
always fun to be here. And I know there's a
there's a subject that continues to march on here, Rob Parker,
and that subject is the Last Dance and reverberations of
the last Dance. Now, if you recall, and I saw

(41:34):
some very very strong commentary from you um on little
bit on the Jack McCallum podcast, there was sound in
which Michael Jordan is saying, I don't want Isaiah Thomas
on the Dream Team. Here was that sound again, courtesy
of the Jack McCallum podcast, and he said, you know,

(42:01):
Chuck As did so did be a posedge. So everybody
assumed that that meant Chuck As in. Charles Barkley, another
outspoken member of the NBA, alumni, an outspoken member of
the media. But unfortunately they forgot that there were two
Chucks in the room, not just one. And here was

(42:25):
Sir Charles, Charles Barkley on with Tony Bruno explaining the
mix up. I will never ask about Isaiah Thomas on
the Dream Team. I want to make that clear. So
just me all and now I'm gonna have to answer
themselves pround of the next few days because whatever Michael said,
and they got it on tape, but clined, he lied

(42:47):
during the helied during the last dance. But I want
to make it clear on that tape when they're talking
about Chuck, did not won't Isaiah. They're talking about Chuck
Dennis Wow. So right, because Boddy calls Charles Chuck. So
that's why yep. Yeah. So so, I mean you've been
sitting here making the rounds for I mean, we want
to talk about two or three weeks. It's like like

(43:10):
you're you're the Isaiah Defense League, the IDL on national
radio defending Isaiah when his own coach doesn't even want
him on the Dream Team. What does that say about
Isaiah Thomas's reputation amongst players. Back of the day, First
of all the nonsense when we talk about this, you know,
now here's the problem. First of all, if Michael Jordan's

(43:33):
all the grand pooh bah and the big boss and
he's the one that kept Isaiah off the team, first
of all, own up to it and wear it. Okay,
he can't do that. And now here we are, everybody's
rallying around the poor departed, deceased Chuck Daily. Now you

(43:55):
want to pin this on Chuck Daily as the reason
I say it wasn't on the Dream Team when everybody knows,
here's you want? You want to exhibit a you want
proof Jonas even on those tapes by Jack McCallum, was
Michael Jordan talking to Chuck Delly or was he talking

(44:17):
to Row Thorne? Who was he talking to? He was
trying to rob Thorn? Right? What right? Because Chuck Delly
didn't pick the team. Chuck Delly did not an ot
pick any member on the team. Chuck Delly had no
power where people getting off as if Chuck Delly decided
who made the roster, it was Rod Thorne, it was

(44:41):
Jack McCloskey, it was a committee. He had no say.
This idea that Chuck Deli is the reason why oh
we even Chuck Day didn't want him. Magic was mad,
Bird was mad. Nobody wanted to play with I. Yeah, yeah,

(45:01):
yeah either. Are you kidding me? You guys should be
ashamed of yourself to dig up Chuck Daly's body and
try to put this all for Chuck Daly? How dare you? Yeah? Yeah,
they exhumed to check Daily's body and put it back

(45:22):
up over above ground, so they Why would Rod Thorne
make kick it so they can kick it? Why would Rod?
Why would Rod Thorne make this up? My point is
Chuck didn't have it. He was just pacifying Jordan at
that moment to basically say, oh, okay, no problem, will
do whatever you want. A matter of fact, Chuck didn't
even want him. That was a throwaway line so that

(45:44):
Michael didn't feel bad. Michael said it. You noticed Jonas,
Come on, you're smarter than this. There is no dream
team without Michael Jordan, And Mike said it. If Isaiah's
on the team, I'm not playing. You don't need a
Chuck Daily endorsement. You don't have a dream team without
Michael Jordan. What is your poppy Cock? What is your

(46:05):
what is you? I mean if there's that's not a
bad thing. Sometimes, what is you? What is your your
biggest scripe with Michael Jordan that he lied that the
documentary wasn't on the up and up, not the whole.
But but face it, you're bigger bet. You told Scottie
on national television he's selfish. You told Horace Grant he
was it was a rat. On national television. You looked

(46:25):
him to the camera and said, Isaiah is an a hole, right,
But you can't admit that you pulled the trigger. You
were the big boss. You're the one who wrecked Isaiah's
basketball legacy. A top fifty player of all time, a
Hall of Famer, a guy who beat Magic, Michael and

(46:46):
Bird all in their primes. He's the only guy, a
guy who could have won three championships in the row
had it not been for that bogus call in favor
of the Lakers. That's the guy. The guy who's on
the nineteen eighty dream team that boycotted the Russians. That's
the guy. Man. I gotta tell you is this is
the problem. And I think the reason why you're so

(47:08):
upset about it is because you felt for the magic
trick to just like so many people in sports media.
You thought what was being presented to you in this
quote unquote documentary was a fact and a truth, and
I said the entire time. Everybody's slowed down here a
little bit. This is one side of it, one point
of view. It doesn't mean everything is accurate. Jordan has

(47:29):
been proven to be a liar multiple times over. I'm
sorry if this is stunning news to people that Michael
Jordan's an egomaniac. I also have some other breaking news,
Rob Parker. Bigfoot probably not a wild gorilla up in
the Pacific Northwest. It might have been your uncle who
tard and feathered himself and ran across the campfire when

(47:49):
people were younger and they scared the little kids. All right.
The Lockness Monster probably not real. It's some guy in
a lake reaching his hand out of the water like
these things don't exist, and people are getting a motion.
I'm upset about it when the truth comes out. Michael
Jordan's an egomaniac. He's a proven liar. It was proven
multiple times over. Why get emotional about it? Who cares?

(48:10):
Because because this is the part to drag poor Chuck
daily in. This is just the low of the low.
Come on, Jonas, but you know this, but Chuck Daily
picked that team. Come on, Jonas, I want you to
just yes or no. I know, I don't know. I
don't think Chuck Daily picked the team. So so to

(48:30):
put it on Chuck, Well, Chuck didn't even want him.
That guy won Chuck Daily and and made Chuck Daily
money and gave Chuck Daily a big name because he
had Isaiah Thomas on his team. And to now use
Chuck's name and drag it through the mud and say
Chuck is the reason he wasn't on a team, not
Michael is unforgivable. It is just it's criminal to do

(48:56):
that to Chuck, to the late Chuck Daily, I think
it's wrong. When he can't answer itself, I just think,
man like, welcome to Michael Jordan's world. Charles Barkley said
it best. He was on an interview and he said,
you're only friends with Michael Jordan on your terms. And
everybody is stunned at these developments and outraged to find
out that maybe Michael Jordan's not the greatest guy in

(49:16):
the world. Look, this is the first peak of Jordan's career.
If it happened in the social media age, and look
at how many little fires have popped up. Look at
how many little things have popped up to where people
have said, hold on a second, he did this. I
am outraged by it. Man. You've got to understand these
things that we grew up believing more than likely probably

(49:38):
aren't true. Okay, alien abductions aren't true, rab Bigfoot, the
Lockness sponsor, They're not true. Michael Jordan isn't this pristine
athlete who floated above everybody else. He was flawed. He
did bad things to people. He disowned his friends, he
sold people out, he dimed on people, He had a
gambling problem. This is all truth. He lied about his

(50:02):
pizza being poisoned. What was presented was Michael Jordan's truth.
But just because it was Michael Jordan's truth doesn't mean
it was true. It was bogus. And this at people
getting outraged over these details that come out. I think
it's a waste of time. You can't get upset about this.
Isaiah Thomas got blackballed by Michael Jordan because Michael Jordan
froze him out in an All Star game, and Jordan

(50:24):
never forgave him and never got over it. And that's
what this stems from. Bottom line. Yeah, but but but
I and I get all that. I wasn't you know,
as far as the documentary hook line and sinker he
had final say, so I knew what kind of spin
it would be. My point is to do that to
Isaiah if you want to do that, and you know this,

(50:45):
Jonas to be able to look at a camera and
call somebody an a hole, but not be honest to
say I was the one. I was the don I
was the big boss. I told him pick Isaiah or
me or I wasn't playing, and they picked me. Put
it out there, wear it, stick it, chests out like

(51:07):
a man. That's what Michael didn't do, and he had
no problem doing it with other Yes, Steve Kurr, Yeah,
we got into a fight. I pressed that guy to
punch me, to have a fight. Oh yeah, Horrace Grant's
a rat, you know, yeah, Oh yeah, Scottie Pippen, it's selfish.
What are you afraid of? Why are you afraid to

(51:27):
have that attached to you? If you did it, it's
what he looked. I defended Jerry Krause in the documentary
when people buried Jerry Krause, and I said hold on
a second. The guy was the GM of six World Championships,
Like he just didn't know what he was doing. I mean,
Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Tony Coop coach? How many players
did he deliver? And he didn't know what he was doing.

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But because Michael Jordan says it, people run with it
and assume they have the truth. And then when it
comes out that he's a liar, I just don't think
he can be surprised. I don't know whether or not.
Chuck Day specifically said I don't want Isaiah on it.
All I'll say is this on the Chuck Daily front.
Why would Rob Thorne make that up? Like? Why? That's

(52:08):
what I don't understand. Like Thorne said that Michael had
nothing to do with it. That was the sound before
we just got the tape. You want to go to that.
Rod Thorne lied through his teeth. He said Michael Jordan
had nothing to do with it. And Michael just said
on the tape that he was talking to Rod Thorne.
So Rod Thorne is an a one liar. He lied Robe.

(52:31):
Do we have sound on that or do we have quotes?
Rod Thorne came out when this thing was going on
and said Michael Jordan had nothing to do with Isaiah
not being on the team. You don't out out lie.
You don't think that Chuck Daly said anything during the
course of when they were discussing things, when Chuck Daly said, yeah,
I don't care if he's on the team or not.

(52:51):
You don't think anything like that came out. You don't
think Chuck Daly spoke up and said anything about Isaiah
because I find that hard to believe that his own
coach would be attributed to Isaiah not being on the team,
and Chuck late Day just didn't say anything at all. First,
let's hear this quote from Rob Rob Rod Thorne, Rob,

(53:12):
you have it right, That's right. It was almost a
month ago today. Listen to Rod Thorne was on ESPN's
Go Looking Wingo. He said, quote, there was never anything
in my conversation with Michael that had to do with
Isaiah Thomas period. Lie, he's a liar. He's a liar.
So did you just ask why would Rod Thorne make
this up? Because he's a liar for lied as well?

(53:34):
And your point on Chuck Dally. My point to Chuck
Daly is he didn't have any say. Once Michael made
it clear he wasn't playing. What what? What could Chuck say?
You're gonna fall now if you want to coach the
Dream Team, if you want to, you're not gonna go
against Michael Jordan. I don't care if Isaiah's you're a player.

(53:56):
It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Had Chuck pushed back,
he wouldn't have been the coach of the Dream Team.
Do you so he kept his mouth shut? Do you
think any of this dislike for Isaiah Thomas was warranted? Yeah,
that doesn't mean it's not a popularity contest. This is
not ninth grade. Why in the world do we keep
saying that that that Jonas you were, You've worked on

(54:18):
your whole life. You like everybody you work with. Now
you've broken bread with everybody you work with. I can't
stand Rob Garrett out with anybody at brought him to
your home. No, I just think I this whole idea
that people are stunned to find out these guys are
lying or they're they're fibbing on certain things. I just
don't know what world we live in. It's a it's

(54:39):
a naive point of view to just assume whatever you're
given is the truth. I look, if you were to
tell me Michael Jordan absolutely had nothing to do with
the second he said any of that, the second he
made up the story about le Bradford Smith, the way
that it was presented what he did early in his
college career. He had a game winner, but they left
out sequences that were huge sequences in that game. Early on,

(55:02):
I could identify, Yeah, this documentary is not on the
up and up. We got a pizza guy, we got
a tape saying he's a liar. We get like these
guys are lying like that is. I just don't know
why we're so surprised by this. I agree with you
on the Isaiah Thomas front. The fact that they're holding
a grudge thirty years later is ridiculous, all right. The
fact that those guys still have a dislike for Isaiah

(55:23):
Thomas thirty years later and they painted him out to
be a bad guy is a bit ridiculous. But I'm
just not surprised when a celebrity or an athlete is
a liar anymore. I'm not surprised. It's why whatever they
say goes in one ear and out the other, and
I'll believe it when I get some proof. That wind
up working out for Michael Jordan was that pizza story

(55:43):
and what he told everybody that those five guys who
delivered to pizza or whatever that made him sick, they
went out of business and wound up going into Hamburgers
and fries and starting five guys. So that actually worked
out for oh my god, how long? Even six? One? For?
All right? All right? I won second? Hold on a second,

(56:04):
Rob Rob Gara. Is that the first time he's ever
said that joke on the air? Absolutely not, Okay, it's
like unbelievable, Like you so you know what that means.
Because you've got a different co host this week, that
joke's gonna get used once a day for the entire
week because it's a new audience. Unbelievable ways, all right?
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is the phone number?

(56:28):
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(57:13):
Rob Parker? Not yet? Not the Magic Sydney Hall of Fame.
They don't have any one of those. No, they just
have my credit card. I was gonna say, coming up
here in just a couple of moments, your thoughts on
the Chuck Daily being brought into the Isaiah Michael Jordan

(57:34):
feud and rivalry and do you want him on the
Dream Team? Do you not? My thought is everybody's a liar.
This is just the way that it is. We can't
all be surprised. And Rob Parker fell for the magic
trick again. He thought that Michael Jordan was mother Teresa.
Only the fact he lied, I don't have to tell you,
so we will have that for you here. Also coming

(57:55):
up in a few minutes from now here. On Fox
Sports Radio, Eddie how NBA Champion, Fox Sports Radio NBA
analysts will be with us here. I always get stuff
from Eddiehouse here. On Fox Sports Radio, Rob Parker, all right,
let's kick it off with Mark and Sacramento. You're on
the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up Mark? What's
going on? Guys? How you guys doing today? Good? Are

(58:18):
you done doing good? Good? They're all lying, Rob. If
you look at how this thing was put together and
each individual interview, each person was had something to protect,
and they're not telling you the whole story and how
this was put together, all of them, including Jordan. Okay,
So this is the way I look at it. As
I watched this ten piece, ten part documentary, I could

(58:41):
see it. You can just see it. As each person
was telling their bit, there was something underneath the layer
of what we didn't see, and they were all hiding
something seemed to me. So they're protecting their own interests.
So yeah, they're all lying. That's way I look at it. Yeah,
I don't have a They are lying, There's no doubt
about it. I just don't like that they're bringing Chuck Daly,
who can't answer for himself. That's the part that bothers me.

(59:05):
Tes in Cincinnati. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up test Rob My, guys, whoop? What
does it? What does it matter? This was eleven years ago, right, no, eleven? Yeah,

(59:25):
the Tate was him eleven years ago, two thousand and eleven.
That take when Georgia said he didn't want Isaiah the
team as Rob, you to look it up. I thought,
esdo is today? Right? But my point is that they're
using that as as as to justify why Isaiah was
kept off test. That's not why Chuck Day had no power.

(59:47):
That's my point. He didn't pick the team, tes He
Chuck Day didn't pick the team probably over the four
seventy one bridge over there in committee. Look like you
name dropping bridges here? What I used to live off
the four seventy one. So what So let me ask
you this, did what did Chuck Daily do for you?

(01:00:07):
Because you're like, I mean it, Chucks, did he like
give did he like give you a Joe Dumars wind
up doll when you were like a reporter there in Detroit,
like what not at all? Chuck Daily stuff? I just
I think it's terrible to to use a deceased person
to perpetuate a false narrative. They did. They did the

(01:00:29):
same thing with Jerry Krause. They did. Just think it's
Jerry Krause. Marty in Kentucky. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. So Rob Parker and the Princess
of Darkness. How y'all doing? What's good? What's up? Mike Marty? Alright, guys,
I feel like this documentary being made, but prior to

(01:00:52):
the pandemic is a reason why we were catching so
many lies and falsehoods. Because unit was made, nobody knew
that it would be under such a microscope and it
would be the center of the sports world every week.
That's a great point, Marty. And so that being a situation,
I think, you know, human natures, people I don't accent

(01:01:16):
sometimes you know, and then people are all on purpose
and then people you know, tell white lives and big
lives and that's just you know, a product. I think
of this being a microscope, they didn't expect it to
be here. Appreciate the call. Good call, Marty. Let's do
Mark and Virginia real quick. You're on the odd couple
Fox Sports Radio, marquit, what do you got? How you doing?

(01:01:39):
You guys are both on the same page. Let me
digress and I'll try to be really quick. I was
in richfield for the shot of sixteen clicks up, and
people seem to forget that Elo was brought to the
casts just because of Michael Jordan. He was a good
defensive player. They dischencel Ron Harper should have taken it.
That's not the way it worked. And I'm telling you
they were going at the whole game, and I'm talking

(01:02:01):
specifically about Jordan's mouth. It never stopped. If you recall,
Jordan jumps in the air, hits a good shot. Elo
played good defense, he elevated that game was mark beautiful, okay,
And you saw what happened before that. Jordan got burned Basseline.
Elo hit the winning shot. So Jordan's excitement when he

(01:02:21):
hit it wasn't just overwinning the game, it was over
shotting up Elo, because again to play before Elo hit
the winner, he burned Jordan Baseline. But getting to the
current president, it's just sad that a documentary comes on.
We're so starved for sports, and we look at it
every single show. We break it down like it's all true.

(01:02:43):
It's sad and what you're getting at what Chuck Daley
goes to the point, you know, lies are hard to continue,
and Jordan's his low, selfless team really comes out when
he dishes other players. Yeah, oh you got it. And
to talk about someone who's passed, that's the issue that
he know, you know, all of a sudden, it was

(01:03:03):
like a rumor, Well we think daily may not have
stuck up all fun as a fact and right running
with that, and the man six feet under God bless him.
And as far as it was just a fiction and
fact from Michael Jordan's almanac, and people took it as
if it was all factual. We were so star for sports.
It was like play for play. I didn't know he

(01:03:24):
hated tipping with this. How many titles did Michael Jordan
win without Scottie Pippen well zero and Scottie Pippen one
zero without Michael Jordan? How's that Scotty didn't want to
finish a game without Michael Jordan? Yes I did, Yeah,
I listen. It's the time in which it was shown.

(01:03:45):
People people ran with it. And what was so funny
is when the director came out and said no, Michael,
Michael Jordan said nothing was off limits. Well, of course not,
because he's telling you what happened. He's the one dictating
that's coming out of the documentary, So of course not.
It's I just I just think at some point, the
more that we get information about some of these celebrities

(01:04:06):
and athletes who've got to be less and less surprised
that they turn out not to be the people that
we thought they were, especially these athletes from back in
the day. I did want to point out Rob. I
thought it was I didn't know you to be one
to be able to multitask. So you were at that
game when Jordan hit the shot against the Calves on
Elo that cover that game? So how were you able
to cover that shot and still FaceTime with Chuck Daly

(01:04:28):
and Isaiah Thomas at the same time I was facetiming
back in the eighties. I oh, man, By the way,
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(01:05:11):
Chris Brussard here on Fox Sports Radio. It is The
Odd Couple here on FSR, coming up in we'll call
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It is another edition of Shoptalk. All right, this is
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(01:05:32):
Fox Sports Radio. Right now though, Rob Parker, he is
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(01:05:54):
Jonas Knox and Bustard alongside Rob Parker. What's up are
y'all doing? We're going great? How are you? I'm trying
to beat the heat. Man. It's one hundred and six
out here in Arizona. Man, how to deal? Goodness? Hey,
just take your shirt off, will pour some barbecue sauce
on your back. You'll be fine. That ain't gonna work.

(01:06:17):
O my god. So Eddie, what's what's happening? Man? Are
we gonna get an NBA season? What's going on? How
confident are you we're gonna get a season in well?
I think they're pushing forward there. To me, I think
that it's a season that just I don't think that
it should happen. I think number one the safety of
the players. Um, I've been saying this, I don't know

(01:06:39):
how long. I think when this first, when outbreak first happened,
and Chris and Rob we were talking about it. It's
just almost impossible to be able to manage everybody's movements
and making sure they're not coming into contact with anybody
that possibly can have the virus. And then you know,
if anybody in the league gets it. You know how
that ball hops around, how people share things. It just

(01:07:00):
to me just scream just trying to make something happen
to make up all the lost money. I mean, we
all understand how important that is and how being how
much of the money loss it is, but it just
wouldn't be the same to me. I mean, I think
teams had momentum coming into before this big break happened,
and it just it just disrupts everything. Now, Eddie, I

(01:07:20):
am the one who has coined this. No matter what happens,
if this thing happens down in Orlando and Disney where
I'm calling it the Mickey Mouse Championship because he played
in Disney World. But will people look well, when people
look differently at this because of the format, and it

(01:07:41):
might be sixteen teams, but it's all playing the same
plays like a round robin tournament or whatever that you
played with no fans or whatever, will it Will it
have the same effect? Will people respect the championship? I
think it'll be. It'll be tough for I understand the
guy that's still out there grinding and banging before someone

(01:08:01):
who was played and been in the riggers home court
advantage is something that's huge, is something that you fight
for all season long. To be able to go and
get a win on the road. That means something that's
a mental thing to a team in the playoffs, when
you're able to go grab one and still want on
the road. You always hear that phrase still want on
the road. It's more of it's glorified AU when you

(01:08:25):
look at it. You know, playing in the same building.
Not that many fans, they're depending on what AU team
we're talking about, but not really a fan participation. I'm
just not a I'm not a big fan of trying
to just get a season done for the sake of saying,
let's get this season in. I think it does a
discredit to the teams that were really rocking and rolling.
For a guy like for a team like Portland who

(01:08:48):
are finally starting to turn the corner and get their
thing get back on track. For a team like Utah
who was coming together looking really good, this break could
hurt them. I mean, they don't have that star power
of where super starts can carry you through the first
you know, for the first three four three weeks of
a season. You know, these role players have to find
their niche again, and I think that's gonna be extremely

(01:09:10):
tough for a lot of these players. But I mean,
it'd be great to see basketball back on, but I'm
just not feeling it really. Hey, Jonas, let me let
me jump in real quick follow up, And you mentioned
Portland and uh, um, Damian Lillard saying what's that? I'm sorry? No,
go ahead, yeah, bet saying that that that he wouldn't

(01:09:32):
he'll be, he'll practice, he'll do everything, but he wouldn't play.
If to say, if if Portland had games or whatever,
that he wouldn't play. And when you hear players say that,
and this is my only issue if it's either we
all aren't playing or we all are playing. When you
hear players saying that they're not going to play, uh,
he'll be there with his teammates, but he won't take

(01:09:54):
part in that. Does that sound right to you? No?
I think he should have just kept that to himself.
And if he wanted to excuse it as low management
even though they haven't played for a while, I think
he could have got away with that, or he could
have came up with some felonious and so some injury
saying that you know, his ankle was bothering anymore, his

(01:10:15):
baby toe was hurting or something, and people would have
been able to ride with that. But I think he
should have just not spoke on that part of it.
But I also understand where he's coming from. I mean, again,
he was they were grinding, They were just starting a
round in the form and starting to look like a
team that can make a run to get into the playoffs.
And to try to kind of start that all over
again and gain that momentum again, it's gonna be tough,

(01:10:36):
and I understand where he's coming from. But again, it's
hard for me to look at it like a guy
like that that you're depending on won't be there, especially
if you're a teammate that's in the trenches with him
and he just doesn't show up for the games because
he could. You know, he basically knows that, hey, where
they don't, they don't have a shot. That's the reason
why I just say, it's just all screwed up right

(01:10:56):
now to where I just don't think that you could
get a real definite finish to the season how it's
supposed to be. I think it's it's gonna be tainted
no matter how you look at it, we finished this
year is gonna be tainted. I don't care how you
look at it. NBA champ Eddie House joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio Jonas Knox and for Chris Brussard
alongside Rob Parker. This is the odd couple here on

(01:11:17):
Fox Sports Radio. All right, Eddie, you mentioned what Damian
Lillers should have done, So what is what's the go
to injury for an NBA player when they don't want
to play, but they need something that they can throw
out there so nobody bust their balls about it? What's
the go to injury? Nice norness just general nice ornis
and you're good with that? Yeah, I mean, I mean,

(01:11:39):
come on, I mean, if everybody knows that the knees
are extremely important, that's something that nobody plays win. So
I mean, if if somebody's complaining about nice sortis, who
is it to tell them that if you know your
knee is not hurting, it is not important enough for
you to sit out a few games to try to
take care of it. So I mean, that's that's the
go to I mean nice And if anybody knows about

(01:12:01):
knee store us, it's Jonas, because I don't think he's
on the radio man, and that's knees as implural. What
do you mean by that? Rob? What do you get that? Hey?
One last thing, one last Eddie. I have a problem.

(01:12:24):
I mean the tape came out with Michael Jordan. Of
course he was lying. And now here we go, people
are trying to Chuck Daily has passed, is dead, buried,
and now they're trying to pin like, well, Chuck Daly
didn't want him either, as the reason that Isaiah wasn't
on the team. This is my only issue. Chuck Daly

(01:12:44):
didn't get to pick the Dream Team. It ain't that
kind of party. It was bigger than Chuck Daily to
put it on him that Isaiah wasn't on that team.
To me, it is pretty low. It just is yeah,
And that ruts me the wrong way too when you
put it on some is not able to defend himself.
And come on, man, Chuck Daily won championships with Isaiah.

(01:13:04):
He's gonna tell me. He's gonna sit there and say
I don't want this guy who's actually delivered world championships
for him. We don't believe it. Now. What looks even
worse than that is not only MJA lying about the
fact that he didn't want Isaiah on it is this
part of it. I think this is uglier than the
fact that he lied. Maybe he lied to just say
fate yeah, obviously the safe face and be lying and

(01:13:26):
really really want all that coming out. But to put
it on somebody who's who can't even rest easy right
now because people are constantly bringing up his name and
won't allow him just to rest in peace and and
say it's something that he did, and he doesn't have
the chance to actually respond to it or defend himself.
And similar to Jerry Kraus, Jerry Krauts never had an
opportunity to defend itself. He was painted out look really

(01:13:47):
made him look like he was such a bad guy.
I really didn't know him. But just the fact that
you're not You're you're talking about somebody who's not a
given the opportunity to devoice their opinion or give you
their reasoning for why they made the move that they moved,
or made the moves that they did, or the reason
why they did certain things. It just to me that

(01:14:08):
that's not cool at all. He's an NBA champion, he's
one of the most honest and best insiders and analysts
in the business. Here on Fox Sports Radio, he is
Eddie House. You can get him on Twitter at Eddie
House Underscore fifty. Eddie has always thinks so much man.
We appreciate to stay out of the heat man. No
down pool time for me, guys. Edy House joining us

(01:14:29):
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sent in from our guy Marty in Kentucky who said
that you swing for the fences and you riff a lot,
but you just hit a gram slam at the spent
of Jonas's knees. Though I'm always trying to so good,

(01:15:37):
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(01:16:20):
too in the bost It's shop talk. That's right, it's
a very abbreviated edition to shop talk because Jonas took
too long to get to That's okay. Now this is
a segment where we discuss something that happened outside of
her world of sports, and today's big trending story involved
space and going out of this world now. Space x
was planning to launch the first ever man made space

(01:16:43):
launched since two thousand and eleven by the United States. Unfortunately,
bad weather, he said they couldn't do it, so they've
a postponed until May thirtieth. But it got me thinking, guys,
if you had the opportunity to go to space, would
you go? Rob Parker, you already know I'm a black
man and went to Antarctica. You know I'm going to space. Yeah,

(01:17:06):
but I heard Rob was looking for direct flights to Uranus.
Not true or I don't know. I was just curious
if those reports were true or not. I have I
have zero interest in going to space. Nothing out there
impresses me. I don't need to see the Big Dipper,
the Little Dipper, I don't need to see the rings

(01:17:26):
of Saturn. I don't need to see any of it.
And I'm not even entirely sure that we did land
on the Moon. Rob, I'm just saying I need answers first,
and until it was usual evidence, you don't want to
go because they don't have a taco bell up there, Rob,
what about? Hell, No, I ain't going to space. Why not?
I can barely swim, and you want me to go

(01:17:46):
to outer space? You crazy? I would be on the
first flight that there. I'm I'm there, Hey man, I
jumped on a plane, I went skydiving. I'm good. I
don't need to go to space, Rob Parker. I hope
that there's seats of on that space ship for two,
because I'd be sitting right next to you as we
go all the way to the top and see what's
going on above there, so we can come back and

(01:18:06):
be like, hey, yo, flat earthers. That gut news by
the way, right, Rob Parker's so full of crap. He
won't walk anyway. He won't walk into a liquor store
if the diet pepsi prices are up in it sucks
he but he's gonna go all the way to space.
Give me a break, you mean it's now ten million dollars.
Let me peel, Let me peel back the curtain. We
discussed this off the earlier. Rob Parker sent me a text,

(01:18:27):
He's all, hey, I was the third black guy in
an article I'm definitely gonna be the first one in space. Diculous.
I need to do this, Topic said, all right, we're
gonna do it. I want to be that guy. Are
you kidding me? Wait? There's no Wi Fi up here?
There's shot How am I gonna pose the picture on
the gram up here? Guy? Kidding? Here? Take a picture

(01:18:48):
with me in this rock by the way, you see
but you see the latest Instagram picture from Rob Parker? No, no,
tell us. He's got this look on his face like,
I don't know. He looks like you're trying to crap
your pants, Like what he look? What are you doing?
I was wearing a Negro league jersey the Homestead grades.
I want to play the majors. That's why I look sad.
I'm the poop pool care unbelievable, you're I believe this

(01:19:11):
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Stick and Stay. Be sure to catch live editions of
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(01:19:34):
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Quote Jonas Knox having Rob Parker earlier in the program,
we were talking to a little baseball. We're gonna get

(01:20:19):
the baseball and we're gonna get some Tom Brady buck stuff,
which I know you love, you love that guy. Hey man,
that's my goodness gracious. But um, the Major League Baseball
you know, negotiations going on. They gotta get some sort
of deal put together. And you know, some people got
their pennies in a bunch. They've heard some players pushed
back the union, reject the first offer by the owners.

(01:20:43):
Oh my god, no baseball, and they're not gonna come together.
Although most of the reporters who are even covering it
are saying they believe a deal will get done because
of what's at stake. Right, Yeah, Baseball last year said
an all time revenue record eleven billion dollars. Eleven billion dollars.

(01:21:06):
Baseball has never been healthier when it comes to finances.
But obviously this year, Jonas, with the pandemic, you know
they're gonna lose four or five million dollars. It's not
it's gonna be a blood bath. Everybody's everybody's losing something.
Nobody's exonerated here, absolutely, But the only thing is I

(01:21:27):
think the players have to be careful in that. You
don't want to push back publicly, too loud, because you're
going to get the brunt of it from fans. Because
fans can relate to the players, even though they're making
all that money. People don't relate to the owners. Right,

(01:21:49):
they own the business, whatever the details are, how much
they're worth. But we've all picked up a bat and ball, Jonas, Right,
so you go, I played ball. I was good in
high school. I could have been in the big League
divide the right circumstance, so we feel closer to the players,
but when they rub it in our faces that we

(01:22:09):
all had to take pay cuts, go on furlough, lose
our gigs, and these guys are saying they don't want
to play unless they're getting their full check. Man, it
is a bad look. Yeah, no, I agree, And I
can understand why that would appear to be a bad
look based on what is what is around everybody. And
I think baseball players are okay, and they understand we're

(01:22:32):
gonna take a cut, like that's gonna happen. We already
agreed to that earlier. It's the fact that they're yeah,
but it's the fact that they're now being asked to
do even more on top of that, and the players
are saying, well, we're We're the ones that have all
the risks. We're the ones taking the risk, We're the
ones go out there. We've already agreed to a cut,
and now you guys are going public with proposals and

(01:22:55):
putting numbers and dollar amounts attached to them. That's painting
the players out look like they're greedy. And my whole
point on this is if you're somebody who doesn't play
baseball and you work a nine to five, or you
work a job like we have, or anything, somebody that
that's not even close to that pay structure that at
that economic bracket that players are in, we no matter

(01:23:17):
what we try and do, we can't compare ourselves and
our lives and our salaries to what they're getting because
it's a different life. And I know that, I know
the players are always the ones that are made to
look like bad guys whenever these negotiations are happening. And
I think some of that, and I think you kind
of alluded to that, there's a little bit of jealousy.
Fans feel like, well, you know, I want that life,

(01:23:39):
you know, I want to be able to travel the
road and make all those moneys and just hit a
baseball and play a kid's game. Unfortunately, we all weren't
good enough. It's the one percenters that are there, and
we're the rest of the ninety nine percenters. You can
either be fixated on it and you can cry about
it and complain and be angry, or you can just realize,
all right, I'm not going to be a professional baseball player,
move on, no doubt. And I think that is the

(01:24:02):
part I think people feel, even like people don't relate
to like movie stars and actors and stuff and actresses,
you know, why we never made a movie, but we
all played ball. Am I right? It's a little different
where where you're like, well, I couldn't be up there
and do a movie that that doesn't seem natural, or
don't think I could do something like that. Um. The

(01:24:23):
other part is I think that ultimately they will get
this ironed out. And for you baseball people who love baseball,
tomorrow my baseball podcast drops. We have we started it
Inside the Parker on the Herd podcast Network, and our
guess tomorrow is Rod Carew the Hall of Famer. You

(01:24:44):
remember Rod Crew from the Pirates? No, no, No, didn't
Rod Crew play for the Pirates? No Twins and the Angel?
Rod Crew never played for the Pirates? Who? Who don't think? So?
Who am I? Who am I mixing up Rod Crew
with I'm almost positive Rod Crew played for the Pirates.
I think he did. He had a cup what's that? No?

(01:25:06):
I was gonna say if he did, he had a
cup of coffee in the Sweet Roles at some point,
I don't remember him ever playing I remember. I think
he only played for those two teams. Am I wrong?
Rob Gie? Yeah? He only played the Twins and Angel
California Angels and what a hell of a he won
the batting title seven times in the America League. I'm
mixing it up with somebody on the Pirates. But now

(01:25:27):
Rod Crew, he was awesome. Yeah, so Rod Crew will
be on the program. The Marrows will do that. Um So,
I do believe that that they will get this thing
worked out. They'll understand what's ahead of them. And from
the player's standpoint, they can't afford for baseball to lose
all this money because you know what that'll up me
next year. That means next year there are no three

(01:25:49):
hundred and four hundred million dollar contract, none of that.
All of that will go out the window if they
lose a season of revenue. Rob the owners have been
trying to get it to that place for the past
couple of years. And you know that we've talked about it.
Why did Bryce Harper have to wait so long to
get paid? Why did why did Manny Machado have to
wait so long? Why did these big name pre agents

(01:26:10):
like Dallas kikel or a Jake Arietta or some of
these players have to miss the start of seasons in
order to get a contract. Craig Kimbrell, some of these
guys that are potential Hall of famers down the road.
Owners have been trying to get this back to a
place that was more favorable for them and try and
avoid these monster contracts. And they've been slowly doing it,

(01:26:30):
and Tony Clark and the Players Association has called them
out on it. They're the ones who said it feels
like there's some collusion. Owners have gotten together and say,
don't pay these guys. We don't want to pay these
type of contracts to some of these players, and so
that and I think this has slowly happened over the
but Altilie, didn't we see those big contracts. Mike Trout

(01:26:52):
got an unbelievable contract, yep, Many Machado got one in
San Diego of all places. So I hear what you're saying.
But they did get paid. Those guys ultimately did get
their money, but it was only after Scott Boris and
Tony Clark and guys from the Players Association said there's
something going on here, all right, Why why are these

(01:27:13):
players having to wait? So? Like? Why I don't disagree
so long now? He should have been snapped up immediately.
So so so I'm definitely on your on your side,
with that and and the other thing on this. And
I've been thinking about this. So if let's just say
Devil's advocate, let's say there's no season, all right, let's
say the season gets wiped out. Um, there, there's absolutely

(01:27:33):
no season. And so now Mookie Bets possibly never plays
a single inning for the La Dodgers. Um, you know,
David Price, but he's under contract for I think another
year or two after this. But all these different things
will happen as we move forward. Here's the other part
of this. The Houston Astros are going to get get

(01:27:55):
away without having to face any any discipline on the
field from rival teams. That was the big talk of
the off season. How bad is this year going to
get for the Houston Astros. The Houston Astros are going
to hear it from opposing fans. The Houston Astros are
gonna get thrown at. They're gonna get this, They're gonna
get that. Now, best case scenario, there's not gonna be
any fans to boo them anyway. So the Astros have

(01:28:18):
sort of in kind of a peculiar different, different way,
they've sort of gotten off and been absolved of some
of the crimes that they committed and in cheating and
science stealing and banging trash kids. The Houston Astros winning again,
Rob Parker, about that, you're Houston Astros. No, there's no
doubt about it that they are going to be the
big winners in twenty twenty when most of us have lost.

(01:28:41):
Another guy who's going to be a big loser in
twenty twenties, it's Tom Brady. You like that transition, right,
then here we go. But Tom Brady could do that.
Tom Brady couldn't do that, No, tworm Kin. And here's
the worst part. All of these bucked players are drinking
to kool aid to go long with their Hooters wings

(01:29:01):
down in Temple. That's what they're doing. So Bucks outside
linebacker shock H. Barrett right yesterday on Get Up on
ESPN was discussing the difference between Jameis Winston and Tom Brady,
and take a listen to this, Jonas, I think James

(01:29:21):
would have made a big jump, But h I think
what Brady is just making an automatic like contender for
Super Bowl. With James, I think it'd have been a
playoff contender. It would have been a still a battle
for sure, and still gonna be battle now, but having time,
I think we're gonna be over the edge and everything
on paper it looks perfect. We just gotta put the
work in. Shock stop it. In the words of Chris Bussard,

(01:29:45):
are you kidding me? I want some of what he's drinking?
Jonah stopping? They got the Bucks? Who I haven't made
the playoffs in twelve years? Automatic contended for the Super
Bowl in the NFC. Oh real, oh my good? Really
this is the same song and dance I heard a

(01:30:05):
year ago. Chris Bussar sitting in your very seat out
at Cleveland Browns. Oh yeah, watch they went from a
million to one in Vegas to fourteen to one when
they traded for OBJ. Everybody and their uncle told me
or in paper, look how good they are. In fact,
rob Ge, wasn't there a famous quote last year Jonas,

(01:30:29):
I want you to hear this as well. This is
after OBJ joined the Browns. That's right. Safety de Marius
Randall talking to Bleacher Report. This is what he said.
They were on the perception that the Browns were being cocky.
He said, quote it might rub some people the wrong way,
but we don't care. We are who we are. We
have a lot of people who are comfortable on their
own skin. Some people judge us and want us to

(01:30:51):
respond to them judging us. We don't care, and we're
not gonna care. When we raise up that Lombardi Trophy,
people are gonna say, oh, that team was cheating because
they had O'Dell, they had Jarvis, they had Baker. They're
gonna say we were cheating. At the end of the day.
I mean, look, if you want to, I mean listen.

(01:31:12):
All I'll tell you is this. And I'm not trying
to add fuel to the fire. I'm not trying to
pour gasoline on the on the Rob Parker train so
you can continue to run over Tom Brady and and
back up and run him over again. But I'll just
say this, and I'm not trying to speak on conspiracies here,
and I don't want to try and stir the pot
Rob Parker. But I also feel like the schedulemakers kind

(01:31:32):
of did Tampa Bay a little bit of a favor.
I'm just saying the fact that Tampa Bay, first of all,
has a bye week in week thirteen. The hell is that,
how does Tampa Bay have a bye week in week thirteen? Like,
how do you get how do you get Tom Brady
for his rheumatism appoint just but the like no team
had to buy, no team had to buy that late

(01:31:54):
in the year after that, and then and then a
last season. And then here's the other portion of it.
When do things really and we've heard this about Tom
Brady over the past several years, when he gets to
December and later in the season, the numbers start to
take a dip like that's been known because look, it's
cold weather, he's a little bit older, he's playing up

(01:32:15):
in Foxborough. If you look at Tampa Bay's schedule down
the stretch, they've got two road games, all right, they
got two road games the Falcons and the Lions. Were
what kind of stadiums to those teams both playing Rob
Parker is outdoors, Yeah, of course it is. It's indoors,
and then the other two are at home. I'm not
saying that Shack Barrett. Of course, he wants to hype

(01:32:36):
his own team, and he wants to hype his own
existence and their franchise moving forward. But he might be
onto something here because the schedule makers have kind of
helped out Tampa Bay in this regard. And if there
aren't any fans early in the season and they got
to go to New Orleans with a significant home field advantage.
But now they don't have their fans. It feels like

(01:32:56):
that's also a help to Tom Brady in the bucks.
So I'm not gonna say it's craziest thought in the world.
I'm just saying it is crazy. And you're you're reading
way too much in the schedule. What you're leaving out
is that Tom Brady was god awful last year at
the end and against the better teams. Tom Brady feasted
on the bad teams early on. They were the worst
eight no team in the NFL. You know that. And

(01:33:19):
when you take a look, tom Brady's gonna be a
forty three year old quarterback. Him and Jamis Winston completed
the same percentage of passes. Their numbers weren't that far off.
Jamis Winston threw from war yards than Tom Brady. The
only difference was the interceptions. And I get and I'll
give you that it was a bigger number. But this

(01:33:39):
whole idea that Tom Brady's gonna turn back the clock
because he's in college town Tampa, Florida, that that all
of a sudden he's going to be a schoolboy all
over again. You kid yourself. Tom Brady moved to Florida
to go to the retirement home. By the way, I
love when you can't even get something out without laughing,
because you know sounds that ridiculous. That's my favorite part

(01:34:02):
of your delivery. Here's here's the other thing I would
encourage Tampa Bay Buccaneer fans that are really really excited
about all this. And again, I'm not saying I agree
with Shack Barrett. I'm not saying I'm simply pointing out
facts here. The one thing that Tom Brady and the
New England Patriots have benefited from over the past twenty
years is atrocious division opponents, bad quarterback play inside the division,

(01:34:26):
and the fact that they more often than not, at
the very least have a first round by or home
field advantage in the in the AFC playoffs. And that's
the secret to their success. We I got news for you.
This is, without a doubt, the best group of quarterbacks
in a division. Tom Brady has ever played against. Drew Brees,

(01:34:47):
Matt Ryan, Teddy Bridgewater. The best quarterback he ever competed
against in the AFC East was probably Drew Bledsoe and
that was on his way out after New England decided
they wanted Tom Brady over Drew Bled. So you can
sprinkle in Chad Pennington if you want. Here's the other
part of this. This is the first year in which
only one team from each conference gets to buy in
the playoffs. So you're asking him to go play an

(01:35:10):
additional game if they're not the number one seed. So,
Shaq Barrett, I get the optimism. You like the schedule.
But if I had to choose a side here, Rob Parker,
I'm gonna choose you. Man. I think I think there's
a lot more work that needs to be done, and
I'm just not ready to go all in like so
many people are. I need to see some things. I
need to see the early portion of the season. First.
There you go. You finally came around. It took you

(01:35:32):
a couple hours, all right? Are the Bucks and Tom
Brady more likely to make the Super Bowl or miss
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(01:35:54):
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(01:37:00):
the the Tom Brady kool aid all over America. It's
just unbelievable. Can I can I apologize here? So I
got I got some information incorrect? So I was when
you mentioned and I have to square this up. So
you were interviewing Rod Carew for your Inside the Parker
podcast for the Herd Network. Correct, Yes, that drops tomorrow.

(01:37:22):
All right, so I thought the Pirates, and I couldn't
think of who I was mixing him up with Willie
stargell Oh Willie starge Yeah, yes, that's yeah. So that's
how I got those two. I got those two mixed up,
so I had to square that up here. Didn't want
to insult your guest. No, no, no no, no, we're all good.
Rod Crew, the Hall of Famer, seventh time America League
Batting Title champion. All right, let's go to a Herb

(01:37:45):
in Denver. You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Herb? All right, what's going on? Hey? Man,
you gotta stop many and man ro you are the control.
Now wait wait, wait, wait, now you've got to pray
Drew Brees and he's forty one. But Drew Brees has
had won no Super Bowl in his forties. He only

(01:38:06):
been in the one. Brady won the Super Bowl at
Drew Brees age already. So Tim, Drew Brees is so good.
And did you watch did you watch Tom Brady last year?
Did you watch Tom Brady at the end of the
year in the playoffs? Did you watch him? Or no? Yeah,
you're telling me when he comes back at forty three.
Did you watch him play golf the other weekend? Did

(01:38:26):
you see him hit the ball all over the place?
Are you serious? It was awful because he's a bad golfer.
He's a bad He's gonna be a bad quarterback. Yes, Stappany,
I just said, where's the correlation? Do you know what
I have right here in my hand? I have? I
have the pre I have the pre golf meal that

(01:38:48):
Tom Brady had. Well, that's a big thing. It was
a decaf coffee, sodium free bacon in the chest x ray.
I mean that's where we all all right. This is
I mean, at some point, if you want to do
ten minutes to stand up, you got to get past
the ninety second market. All right. How about truck Or

(01:39:10):
Don and Boston. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. Truck or Don laughed at that joke, didn't you.
Trucking Don, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my golf. What's up? Yeah?
I had to laugh at that. Was that was definitely
a good hold on a second, Hey Don, Hey, truck
or Don, can we hear your horn? Man? Yeah? Oh

(01:39:32):
I know, it's it's uh, it's it's it's got the
virus is the problem with the horns. Okay, very good,
you got job. But yeah, well last night show, by
the way, and I wanted to compliment you early. You
might have journalist schools start a new new chapter and

(01:39:52):
call it pitt uh, pit bull journalism. You you were
for roaches with your take on the Isaiah Thomas but
uh and the Michael Jordan thing. So that was he's
he's Isaiah's commander. Boy. No, hey, don I appreciate that seriously,
because I know you when I when I'm passionate about something,

(01:40:13):
you know, I give my all. That's why I say
they're gonna start a new chat, new episode for journalism
school and they're gonna call it pit bull journalism, and
they're gonna have your picture on it. By the way,
by the way, you know what I just figured out.
Actually i'll save it for later. I go ahead this
out No, no no, no, announce him. Well you rob, You
know I got a cheap shot in here. You know

(01:40:33):
I got one right because I know that. I looked
up Isaiah's equipment and his jersey size was a large,
his shorts were large, his sneakers were size thirteen and under.
Athletic supporter. It had your picture. Oh be full park?
Is that true? Stunning development? Here? That faithful? Thanks a

(01:40:57):
lot for the call, Trucker Don. How about Tim and Maine.
You're on the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's
up Tim? Not much? But uh, Rock, how you still
have a job is beyond me, dude. You know what
it's like. I went to college. I work hard every day,
I put in my energy, I prep. What part don't

(01:41:21):
you get him? You're talking smack on Brady's season last year,
but be real with us, who did he have other
than a one legged, half armed Edelman to throw the
ball to. You know what, I'm not buying that. Tom
Brady's narrative is Tom Brady didn't more with less than
anybody else, and then all of a sudden that's his crutch.

(01:41:42):
I'm not buying it. Tim and Maine, I'm sorry he
no way black harm Edelman to the playoffs, but coming
back with Evans, Godwin Howard, a refreshed, revamped Gronk out
of retirement, and I'm pretty beating old sixth made him
throw the pick six at the end of the day.

(01:42:05):
Stop at Tim, Tim, you make it out like Julian
Edelman turned into Lieutenant Dan last season. Come on, man,
I want I want tim to hear. This is the
Tom Brady highlight from last year. We're strolling ten years
by Tom Brady's six. Yeah, that's on your iPod? What
are you kidding? Are you kidding? That's my ring my

(01:42:26):
phone rings? I hear it is. How do you have
a job? We're strolling ten years time. I want you
to think about this is this is the insanity of
sports stock radio. I want you to think about that
in the middle of a pandemic, when unemployment rates are
skyrocketing because you say something bad about a former quarterback
of his favorite team, he doesn't want you to be employed.

(01:42:48):
We'll just think about that. That's sports stock radio and
that chell. Ladies and gentlemen, do we have time for Jaco? Now?
All right, Jake real quick in DC. You're on the
A couple of Fox Sports Radio. How you guys doing
great show? Thank you? Bud? All right? Uh, I want
to say, uh, the Bucks are gonna be a high

(01:43:12):
super Bowl favorite. This ship. I think when a rob
compared them to the Browns and uh OBJ situation. Ob
J can't throw the ball to himselves, So I think
you can't. You know what I'm saying. Comp right, he's
not forty three years old and broken down. You're right,
he can't throw the ball to himself. You guys, J Jake.

(01:43:34):
I get the point that they don't play the same position.
But when obi ob j Jonas joined the Browns, did
people night go gaga over the first stop? Look? This,
this happens every single season. Somebody wins the off season,
we turn it into a big deal. You remember when
there was that NBA or NFL was it a lockout
or a hole that? I get him confused, but um,

(01:43:55):
I forget which one it was. It was in twenty eleven,
and you remember what happened all of a sudden, the
fill it if the Eagles signed Namdi Awesome one all
these free agents, and it was like, oh my god,
the Eagles are going to be the team to beat
Lyre so loaded and they went eight and eight. That's
like exactly, that's exactly the point you got. You gotta
wait to see how this thing plays out. I just do.
And I know I know you're not big into this,

(01:44:16):
but I do feel like that late bye week and
that that December schedule that's an advantage for Tampa Bay.
And that's why I'm I'm holding off. I'm ready to
bury Tampa Bay completely because i do think they have
some advantages there. All right, get the fire department on
stand by one of our Fox Sports Radio teammates. It
is about to slide into the hot seat. That's next.

(01:44:39):
But first be sure to catch live editions of The
Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at
seven pm Eastern, four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeartRadio app. Damn Son the current temperature, the
Odd Couple are making it hot in here, damn hot.
Time to sit your butt down in the hot seat. Yes, sir,

(01:45:02):
it is the hot Seat The Couple of Fox Sports Radio.
A segment we invite one of our Fox Sports teammates
to go toe to toe with the Odd Couple two
on one in the Hot seam. Tonight's victim. You hear
him overnights with Jonas Knocks on The Jonas Knock Show.
You hear him locally in LA with Rob Parker on
AM five seventy none other than my man Kevin Figures keV.

(01:45:23):
How you feeling. They'll look good? Feel look good. Ready
to bring the heat. Hey fig, Oh yeah, we're ready
for you. Don't don't ball wash him. He's mine, He's
not yours. Rob Parker, Hey, Fig is my guy. All
you know how this segment works. keV has three very

(01:45:43):
hot takes. He's gonna defend two on one against both
Jonas and Rob. So let's get started. Topic number one.
Kevin Figures is the only one on the radio right
now who thinks that the NBA today, this era is
better than the nineties and Michael Jordan's era. keV, you
got thirty seconds your case. I hear so many of
these old fogies who come out and glorify the nineties

(01:46:05):
NBA failing to mention how many eighty five to eighty
two final scorers that we had. You say, oh, there
were such great defense. Those guys back then couldn't shoot
a lick. Imagine the athletes, the level of athletes we
haven't today's NBA, who are not only better athletically, but
more better skilled. They can shoot the ball, they can
handle the ball. I'm not saying a player like Michael

(01:46:25):
Jordan wouldn't be great in this era, but the idea
that he would average fifty points because he was so
much better or heading shoulders above everybody else. He could
hand check back then. Ridiculous. Of course, of course the
players are more skilled. Nobody touches them that they have
a clear path to the basket. They get open jumpers
on the perimeter. Are you kidding me? They're not better?

(01:46:48):
Those guys couldn't play if you could hand check them
and put some muscle on them. Are you kidding me?
The pistons and the Knicks and those teams would eat
up the teams today. Steph Curry would be playing for
the Halem Globetrotters. He wouldn't even be in the NBA.
Absolutely ridiculous. There's no way. First of all, they hand

(01:47:09):
checked back then. What are you talking about, Rob? I'm
tired of hearing what the people saying you couldn't hand check.
You absolutely could. You could hand check as of nineteen
sixty five, because that's when the role was put in.
People selectively forget that. The only thing different between now
and the nineties is back then they didn't have flagrant fouls.
The pistons are the reason why we have them now.
The game will be just as physical today as it

(01:47:30):
was back then. If they didn't have flagrants. If they
had flagrant fouls back, then the Pistons wouldn't be beating
people up and the game will be able to follow
bat flittons. See, this is just blatant age shaming by
Kevin Figgers, and it's disappointing. I thought he was better
than this. I didn't know he was going to take
out our founding fathers of the National Basketball Association, who
laid the groundwork for today's NBA. Those guys are legends.

(01:47:54):
If not for those guys and the guys that came
before this era, there is no this era. There's no
ste Curry throwing up forty footers. Give me a Kevin
McHale clothesline over, Kurt Rambis over some of these guys
who are chucking up thirty three is a game missing
all the time. They can't even hit a shot inside
the mark. I went today's NBA morphed back into yesterday's NBA,

(01:48:17):
and I'm tired of the age shamming from Kevin Figures. Wow. Wow, Wow,
I saw some hay makers be throwing that round of
Levi book right straight. But you know what, I think
Kevin Figures had better points than you guys. Number one.
Of course, that's absolutely crazy because Rob Garret is a racist.
That's what Rob g That's not gonna get you. On

(01:48:39):
AM five seventy al right, take number two the hot
seat the Akaba fox Board Radio. Kevin Figures on the
hot seat, Kevin Figures says that Kareem abdul Jabbar, once again,
not Michael Jordan and Michael Jordan hate coming from k
fig is the greatest basketball player of all time. Kevin,

(01:48:59):
you got thirty seconds state your case and it's not
even closed. People talk about Michael Jordan or Lebron James.
How about Kareem abdul Jabar. Six NBA titles, six MVPs.
He won three national championses in college and the only
reason he didn't win four was it because he couldn't.
He played for the freshman team. The most unstoppable shot
in the history of basketball. They don't argue me while

(01:49:22):
he can't bring the ball up the court on his own. Well,
you know what some people say, Jerry Rice is the
best football player of all time and he didn't throw
himself the ball either. What did you do when you
get the ball in your hands. Kareem was absolutely unstoppable.
He's the best player of all times. It's not a
lifetime Achievement award. We know his resume. When it came
to the NBA. The last time Kareem won a championship

(01:49:44):
prior to him retirement, I think sports writers used typewriters.
It was that long ago. Stop trying to glorify his
NBA career. He played with a ton of great players.
He was a great player, but he wasn't the greatest.
Nothing is better than six and all absolutely Ridict. Come
on now, I mean, come on, rob, So Michael Jordan

(01:50:05):
played with great players too. Is Denis Robin not in
the Hall of Fame? Is Scottie Pippa not in the
Hall of Fame? And I'm not trying to discount Michael
Jordan all Lebron James. But let's be real, Michael was
not unstoppable. Kareem abul Jabbar had the most unstoppable jump
shot or most unstoppable shot with the skyhook, was great
defensively as well. He by far for me, it's not
even close. Michael was a great player, but I'm not

(01:50:27):
going to see here have you disparaged Kareo dul Jabar.
By the way, Michael Jordan was playing the free Internet
era himself talking about typewriters. Rob, you must have forgotten
about that pipewriter. Let me tell you something. This This
is this is LA brainwashing at its finest, because Kareem
Abdul Jabbar went to UCLA and then he was a
Los Angeles laker. This is like if you go to Fargo,

(01:50:50):
North Dakota, and you ask somebody, hey, what's the best
Mexican food in town, and they tell you Taco Bell.
You gotta travel outside the zip code and start to
look around a little bit. Kareem is a great player
on the top five or top ten, depending on who
you ask. Apparently, if it's Kevin Figures better than everybody else,
I disagree it's Michael Jordan. It's obvious. Yes he's a liar,

(01:51:11):
Yes he lied about many things in this documentary. He's
still the goat. Now. Normally I would say that, you know,
Rob Parker Jonas talks that better points because they did.
But the fact that Jonas was laughing at k Figs
jokes and it kind of just hurts his team in
that regard round number two, the Kevin Figures that's that's

(01:51:31):
like when Tim Duncan got a technical because he was
laughing on the bench. This is such crap, such crap. Well,
don't worry because the last take is the hottest taker.
Then Ilay saved the best for last. It's worth two
and a half points, so don't worry. Jonas and Rob
you can still come back and win this one two
and a half. Kevin Figures says, I don't understand he
can live in LA and say this In and Out

(01:51:51):
is the most overrated fast food chain in America. keV,
you got thirty seconds. Tell us why I don't understand
the fact situation with In and Out. The burgers are plane.
You have to get an animal style for it to
be halfway decent. The Finch fries are terrible. They get
cold within half a second of having them, and it's

(01:52:12):
a low throws up too. If you would have to
get something with the crap ton of toppings on it,
that should tell you right there that it's not that good.
I don't understand the phenomenon for our national listeners. Nationally,
if you've been started hearing about the hype of In
and Out Burger, save your time. Save the forty five
minutes of going through the trip. It's horrible. If you've
seen Kevin Figures love hand knows, you would think he

(01:52:32):
was that In and Out man, go cav You're just
mad they won't give you cake frosting on top of
your hand burger? Are you kidding me? In and Out
Burger is delicious into California tradition. It's so good. I
need a cigarette after I'm done at that place. It's mad.

(01:52:55):
I might use those burgers to kill my cigarette. And
that's how horrible it actually is. I can't anybody can
find that burger to be talentable. And I just don't
understand you talk about brainwashing. Someone in America has been
brainwashing to have people believe that this was actually a
good burger. I can't stomach the damn thing. I have
to buy one of those shapes just to be able
to swallow the damn burger because it's so dry and flavorless.

(01:53:16):
It's awful and totally I'm not going to be dorph
in and out anytime soon, but they're terrible. I mean,
Kevin Figures is wrong here. Now. I'm not as crazy
about it In and Out as a lot of people are,
but he's wrong because there is a right answer here,
and the worst most overrated fast food in America is
Chick fil A. Chick fil A is overrated, it's mediocre.

(01:53:36):
They tried to put one in Falcon Stadium and guess what,
they don't open on Sundays. Boy, that makes a hell
of a lot of sense for a place not to
be open on Sundays and for them to put it
in an NFL stadium. It's overrated. It's way too flashy.
It's trendy. Stop following the trends. Open your eyes a
little bit, broaden your horizons. It's not Chick fil a. Wow.

(01:53:57):
A lot of very hot takes being I must say
though that incase you guys didn't know. The vegan DJ
Alex Tisher actually ran in and out for several years
and his voice, his votcounts is double so ken figure
blew a three one lead. He lost in the here
Yes disappointing uk Fig Yes man, okay fig. I'll tell

(01:54:20):
you this. He said, the fries go cold because they're natural,
they're not processed or anything. My man, hey, they're very good.
I'm not going to fast food for my health, Alex,
Come on now, I should say big or go home.
K Fig appreciate you, Thank you, buddy. Thanks, Love you
guys soon. No doubt that was fun. All right? More

(01:54:42):
of the Odd Couple coming up. Keep it locked on
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wrapping up a worship Wednesday, it's the Odd Couple, Rob Parker.

(01:55:04):
Jonas knocks him for Chris Boussar still on vacation for
the rest of the week, and tomorrow sitting in Jonas's
seat be none other than Ben Maller. It'll be a
clash of the Titans. I mean, you're really gonna do
me like that? I mean, what the hell is that about?

(01:55:27):
I thought I was your side piece, Rob? You're a
sidepiece Ben Ben mallerw I mean, I know he's I
know he's a bigger name, But for God's sakes, do
you have do you have to rub it in my
face that I'm a little moist right now about that?
I'm a woman. I'm a woman. So I figured something
out about you, Rob Parker? What is that? All right?

(01:55:48):
So we've established during the course of the last two
plus hours going on three hours now here on Fox
Sports Radio, that you're Isaiah Thomas's cabanah boy. I mean,
we like that's been to You're Isaiah's cabanah boy. You're
part of the Isaiah Defense League, the Idel. You are
all about defending Isaiah Thomas. But I don't know that

(01:56:09):
you know how much of a mental impact that Isaiah
Thomas has on you. In fact, even when Isaiah Thomas
isn't even around, you still are thinking about Isaiah Thomas.
Have you ever have you ever been in a situation
where you called a woman the wrong name when you
were getting intimate? Have you ever had that situation happened before? Yeah,

(01:56:29):
usually after they get the approval on my master car.
The reason I bring that up is because Isaiah Thomas
is on your mind so much that even our own
video coordinator social media guru, Oh, Elijah in studio and

(01:56:51):
what did you call him? What did you call him
instead of Elijah when he was in the studio several
months ago? That was just for us. Yeah, just I
was just worked up. I wasn't thinking you called him Isaiah? Okay.
Isaiah Thomas is always on your mind. He is hijacked
your emotions. You need to move off of Isaiah Thomas.

(01:57:11):
He's gone, He's moved on to greener pastures. You're no
longer in Detroit. At some point or another, you need
to get over Isaiah Thomas. You're no longer his Cabanah boy,
as much as you keep pushing it out there on
Fox Sports Radio, so much so that you're calling your
fellow co workers Isaiah all right, it was one time deal.
I've never done that again. It only takes one. It

(01:57:32):
only takes one. Rob Parker, I don't have that kind
of relationship with Isaiah. I know Isaiah well. I really
think that he was wronged, and I just hate the
way that he's being portrayed as if he was like
some bumbles shouldn't have been on the team. Man. I
think that's foul. I don't think you mess with that,
like like people who really know basketball. And when you
look at where Isaiah fits him for a guy his

(01:57:54):
size and no other top fifty player on his team,
what he was able to do as incredible and I
respect that as a bass as you know, from a
guy who who appreciates good basketball. I mean, respect is
one thing. I mean, you know, calling your your fellow
coworkers his name is another thing. I mean, that's kind
of an egregious error on your end. I'm just saying
I was. I was humbled by it because Elijah is

(01:58:19):
a social media guru and is one of the best.
Jonas Knox, you are the best, man. Thank you for
being the odd couple side piece. Uh you know those
two twenties on the nightstand that for parking absolutely and
keep the change that started a couple of read back tomorrow.

(01:58:41):
That's right, epic, Ben Man, that's right. Odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. Can't pa for that.

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