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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We do need to talk about this because this was
big news.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Oh yeah, uh in college football.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yeah, the hits just keep on coming for the NC DOUBLEA.
This one is a big one though. You guys remember
Texas Tech star quarterback Brendan Soresby. He made waves about
a month ago right when he was ruled ineligible by
the NABA after they discovered he had wagered approximately ninety
thousand dollars, which is Rob's Magic City Fund for the year.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What all in singles?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
That's what I heard on professional and college sports wagering
over four years, including forty bets involving Indiana football when
he was on the team in twenty twenty two. Okay,
so he was going to be suspended forever basically, And
what did he do? He did what all these young
kids do nowadays, got his attorneys involved. They filed a
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lawsuit against the NC DOUBLEA, and on Monday, a judge
granted a temporary injunction against the NCUBLEA that would clear
the way for him to play this upcoming season. The
only I guess caveat is they mutually agree that he
would sit out the first two games as punishment.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, and I know people.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Will take a look at the player Sorbie, right, and
it's his fault, and the NCAAA is right in that
he should be suspended, shouldn't be able to play college football.
But guess what, you got the wrong guy here because
I'm telling you that it's not Sorby's fault. This is
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where we are, Kelvin, with the NCAA, college football, all
these sports and the idea of getting in bed with gambling.
So this has been made before it was such a taboo,
and now that it's easy in your mobile device, it's
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easy to do. Why wouldn't you take advantage of it?
You you know what I mean? Like like I can
control the game, I make things happen, and there's money
to be made.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Kelvin, have you watched and read some of the reports on.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Players throwing game for two thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Two hundred thousand?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
It's two thousand.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
And now the NCAA has a problem because of what
this judge just did. Right, there's a problem. Look at
what they did with Sorby. What are they gonna do
to me?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
All they gotta do is suit the NCAAA. They have
no zero, they have nothing. They don't they don't have
anything as far as leverage or power or something.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
They open this can of worms. We've seen players. Now
everybody's doing it in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
There's an NBA head coach who was involved right the
gambling aspect. I'm telling you, I wish I could blame
the kids. I'm not gonna blame the kids. I'm gonna
blame the institution. I remember the days when Mickey Mannle
and Willie Mays couldn't represent Major League Baseball. They were
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retired players. Casinos opening New Jersey, Kelvin, and you know
what the baseball said.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
If you do.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
That, you can't wear uniform, you can't come the opening day,
you can't be associated with baseball. When I was a kid,
there's no way I ever would have believed that Las
Vegas would have a football team, right, a hockey team WNBA, well,
definitely WNBA, Bill.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Bill. I definitely didn't think that they're building a baseball
stadium on a strips and basketball's coming.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
This is what I'm saying to you. It was taboo
once they took the gambling money and they got in
bed with gambling. This is what you're going to have.
You think this is the beginning it's the timpany Iceberg.
You think he's the only college player who's gambling.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
We've already known that. We've already we've already that's been exposed.
We already know there's been college basketball, there's been obviously
some college football.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
We're fully aware of this.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
What makes it interesting, though, Rob, is to me, the
reasoning for the judges' decision.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
The judge listen to this.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
He emphasized that sores be needed eligibility to build the
skills necessary to maximize his own success. And I'm gonna
continue here, and then he went on to say that,
you know, monetary damages couldn't remedy the harm of missing
out elite coaching, training resources, and team membership.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
What that just said to.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Me was, there's absolutely no excuses, no consequences for being
a part of what you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
With the gambling.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
This wasn't a bad game the day, This wasn't a
singular game. They've got it that he's done. There are
thousands of bets, specifically forty in what's the team he's
a part of forty And so this wasn't just they
called him at Vegas being young and dumb, and he
puts somebody at that right, kids like him in control
of this is what he's been doing for years. And
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so what makes this again is now you got other students,
to your point who are going to be a part
of this. Go, well, if all he got, because what happens,
and what is it about law precedent? My wife's a
lawyers about president, and once a president is set, that's
what I'm saying. Legal president said, other lawyers can go
just look here, all this is what happened with Sarsby.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You can't treat my kid.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Any can't treat mine, any college kid who didn't know
what he was doing.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And they're gonna be like, all right, well he got
caught up in this and that, but we don't want
to miss any time with the team.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
We don't want to miss any game. He being around
the team is good for him.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
The other thing that's just unbelievable is like they accepted
the two games like they should have tried to wipe
that out too.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Right at this point, might as well, right, but I'll
tell you why accept it Because of listening to the
two games, he was like, you know, he'll obviously be
a late first round probably maybe a second round pick.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Here are the two teams that he's gonna be playing.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
By the way, he's gonna miss Abilene Christian who in
Oregon State. But he's gonna return for the Big twelve
opener against Houston, right.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So he didn't miss anybody.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He missed nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
They'll they'll roll over those teams easily. They they don't
need him. He'll miss nothing. He'll come back fresh ready
to go against Houston. Only miss a couple of games,
and again team will be competing. He'll be you know,
if he played a similar season, maybe if he's a
little bit better late first round, something like that. But
I just think I'm just blown away at the cavalierness
in which the judge handled this, the way in which
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he's like, oh, it's.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Nothing, what about him? He needs to be around good
coach and he needs to be around this. And again,
I just talk about this what this does for other players.
So you mentioned who might have some gambling issues, who
might look at their phone and start to partake, answer
some calls, get a text.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Man, all you gotta do is your first three passes
being complete. That happens.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's all they want. That happen.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's all they want.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
And then you join in on that thinking I ain't
gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
He didn't.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So I'm just blown away by the judge's decision more
than anything. And to me, it's already scary. You already
see we've already done the studies that young men are
getting into gambling more than ever because of the ease
and access with the phones, because the way they make
it so accessible and so easy to be a part
of it, and to then not have a punishment come down.
Because think about it, Rob, this is a starting quarterback
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for relatively big college program who was projected.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
To be a first round, second round pick.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
And if he were to be, if they said you miss,
you're missing this entire next season, that would have player,
oh shoot, a whole season. He's a relatively a star player.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And it might have like the time of effect.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
You know, I'm not saying, oh, there's too many college players.
There's thousands and thousands, because you.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Know that even with the penalties and even the general
popula doesn't stop crime, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Even though though somebody going to real life, somebody stake
driving or filling the blank. But I just thought, if
you start quarterback misses a whole year. At least it
puts some a little bit of pause in you. But
he him getting essentially nothing, And while the NCAA still
does their investigations kind of like okay, well then why not.
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All right, so we're talking about sores By of course
quarterback uh Texas Tech and and and all the gambling
and betting that he had done. Eventually goes to see
a judge. Judge says, oh, that's crazy, but that don't
worry about it. Just the two games and no real
trouble after that. Robbie and they said. The judge said
that it's he needs to be around the team. He's
gonna mess out on skilled building and all that, which
is crazy to basically get somebody to not punish you
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but almost reward you for gambling and and doing all
types of bad stuff. That's thousands of bets and forty
Oni with with the hat to do with his team.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
That's what makes it crazy. You said.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
N Cuba is just in bed with the gambling. This
is where we are. I'm blown away at the leniency
of this judge. Where are you eight seven seven ninety
nine On Fox, we got Dreight in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You're under the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
What's up, dright and what's going on?
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Feelings y'all?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Good?
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Yes, good, good good, And like I told Rob, I
hate to be that guy, but we know. I know
other players might get away with it, but I suggest
the brother players don't try that because we know it's
just like a couple of years ago, when that young
man killed those four people drinking and driving, the judge said, well,
you know, he because where he grew up he didn't
know right from wrong. Or when that swimmer he assaulted
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that young girl, and the judge said, well, you know,
I think prison would be too hard for him. So
certain people get certain protections. But you know that's that's
a that's a tria. See I'm not even blown away
because I'm we see this stuff happening in society every day.
But didn't he forfeit the right to good coaching? Didn't
he forfeit the right thing around at the environment? You
broke the rules, right.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
But I'm and I get your point, and I'm not
at all disagreeing with you, but I'm just saying, now
where we all were gambling, there's a blurred line there.
Used to be like no if and or butts when
it came to gambling, Dray.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
It's not really blurred though, because the rules are firm.
Don't do it. You know, the gambling is for the fans,
not for the players.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
No, but I'm saying, but put them. But the temptation
of it, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
It used to be temptations you resist it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
There were very I'm not saying there were, there weren't
as many. I'm telling you there's way more than this kid.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Well, yeah, I think both of you guys. What both
both are you saying?
Speaker 5 (10:35):
I appreciate the call is that obviously there's always something
that you're not supposed to do and you're not and
therefore you don't do it, even with the temptation out there.
But to Rob's point, I think the ease in which
now with it just being simple as an app on
your phone, with being accessible and some things are accessible
in all states and it just have to go to
Las Vegas to place there was there was a much
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seedier filling the gambling right, it felt much more tamboo
Bookie under ground. Now it's just the ease of an
app on your phone and this that and the other.
So to me, I get what you're saying that it's
just easily and readily available.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Now you got update.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
We've got an update on this story coming down from
Pete Thamil, ESPN longtime college football reporter reporting now Big
Ten officials are going to discuss in the upcoming days
a league wide mandate to not play Texas Tech in
any sports in the wake of this ruling. Wow, one
more time, the Big Ten officials are going to get
together in the coming days to discuss a league wide
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mandate that would allow none of their sports to play
Texas Tech.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And wake up. Oh wow, wow wow, that's actually that's big.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I'm not gonna is a clearer path to the championship
for the Red Raiders.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
All right, we ain't gotta play no good you know
good Big twelve only.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Oh yeah, we're going ahead and feed it man.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
All right, dang, okay, how about Trunk or Don and Boston.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
What's up Trunk or Don?
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Hi, guys, thank you for taking my golf.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Absolutely appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
I missed this show the whole last week as on
vacation visiting my son out in Virginia. He's on an
aircraft carrier at Norfolk, and I went and visited my
grand babies.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Thank you will allow you. Missing that will allow it,
and thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
First time and first time, and I will do that
first time in a long time. I missed you guys.
It felt strange. It's it's you know, it's really odd
my favorite show. You guys know that, and I appreciate
you guys. So I wanted to weigh in on this
thing with the gambling and in light of what rob
jjus reported, uh, with them not playing any Texas Tech
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teams at all. I think that punishes the wrong people.
It punishes his teammates and everybody else whereas. The school
should recognize that and say, hey, you're not playing. It
should be that simple.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
That be interesting to your point.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
If the school says, hey, we understand, you know, with course,
but what we can make our own decisions or something.
I don't know that something has to happen right, This
doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah, my kids have
been suspended for being late to tutoring. You know, kids
have been hanging out too much or uh smoke some
weed on the weekend. At a front house party or something.
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And I'm not advocate, but I'm saying, like stuff happens
in college. Any idea that you gamble thousands of times
forty with your own team and nothing really happened.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
One more, Andre and Mississippi. You're in the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
What's up? Andre? What's going on?
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Man?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
What's up? What's up?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Let's let's get real, guys.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
This is not college sports no more. This is shit
my Pro Bowl. Let's go and get real.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Didn't even seebody pro. It's pro. You get paid to play.
It's pro.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Think about this. Think about this for a minute. Since
we're talking about the NBA Finals. You got a guy
that play in the league. He had a head to
come back and play with the University of Alabama.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Well I was. I was big mad at that. Me
and Rob got into it about that. I was big
mad about that. That didn't makes no sense to me.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
So why are we calling this common sports? What need
to do it? Just make your working them a fourteen
jersey and put rolls on his back and he canna
walk around like roll.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Pro sports, baby, it is pro sports.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Stop calling it.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Comed come out, no doubt. Even the pro sports you
got stuff you still notn't supposed to.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
This was pro sports, you wouldn't been about to play
because there's a governing body that would say.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Hey, you broke the rules.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I said, I'm just gonna appeal that it's gonna harm
my chance to earn money.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
So you but you just missed something. College they don't
have a collective bargaining exactly. The only the only reason
that the only reason why the pros wouldn't play is
because it's already that the commissioner has authority that you've
given them in that collective bargaining, and that's what they
don't have. They don't have a union. There's no collective bargaining.
So it's to the wild West. And so the players
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that that that's.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Why the NCAA doesn't even control their own championship playoffs.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
They don't networks.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
But then the college students tried to get the collective
committee right, so