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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Toughest Nails.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm Cindy Stumpo and I'm here with Samantha, and I'm
here with I'm playing a game.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
You're here with Tanya and Nyat from Boston.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Okay, Tanya, what's been going on since our days? My
days made she TV and we stay in touch. We
were talked about that earlier, that you've got the longest.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Where we started, where we're at. A lot's gone on, right, but.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I think you're you're you're the longest person still on
h TV, haven't you.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, thank god, I'm not the oldest person, but yes,
the longest running, the longest running. It's it's weird. I
didn't even realize that. I was talking to Lauren Rush,
who's a good friend of mine, and he had pointed
that out to me. I thought, oh, that's a fun facts.

(00:50):
I always had slow and steadying him the race. That
was my I don't think that's your m al, but that's.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
My m Okay.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
So with still on h TV, was still doing designing.
We're still designing up restaurants. Yeah, okay, what is the
look right now? What's the look? Give me some of
the looks right now, because like I said, my house.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Is I don't believe that for one second.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
This a little bit that roof lines, Uh yeah, I'm
liking them.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I love that. Yeah, you know what's to be? I
think that's spot on. That is the look. It's like,
whatever the hell you want it to be is the look.
Like I can't stand when I get asked like, what
are the trends? What are the trends? That I get
it there are trends because that's sort of the way
it goes in fashion and design, and it gets people
buy new things. I hate trends too. It's like, do

(01:42):
whatever the hell you want to do. It's ah, you
want to add wood over here and paint this thing
and do whatever. If it makes you happy, then that's it.
My problems, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Just my problem with trends are when trends come in,
then they go out, and then your house looks like
it was built in Yeah, nineteen nineteen and then nineteen
ninety five and two thousand, twenty fifteen.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
So I always say, you can change colors, you can
change furniture, but you're not going to change wall units
and things that we're building.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Thank you. I so agree with you. Like everything that
I like to do. And hey, some people are avant garde.
There are designers out there that are like artists, and
I get it. It's this whole unique perspective, wild, crazy
fun I like to make things that last, that can
be timeless, or that you can update with whatever pieces

(02:37):
you want. But at the end of the day, the
bones of the place to me have to be really solid,
like stand the test of time.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Actually, a gentleman bought one of my houses and his
design is came from HGTV.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Well, I know who, I know who it is, you
I folk. We spoke offline.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Know the funny story was about Cabot. You need to
tell her that?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Which one about Cody? I did? I told her I
told about Cody that.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Uh oh that was on the air that Yeah, the
guy that ended up building a house for in the
last two years turned out to be my boss at
hg TV.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Right, you can't make that up. What's the chance that
ends up and broke my Massachusetts Yeah, the grandson of
scrip I loved that.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
He didn't tell you until later.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
No, he told me that like two months right of
the build out. As we're buildings. I I want to
tell you something I'm like, oh, okay, no, it was.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I love him.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
He's great, He's absolutely fantastic. Actually I wish I knew
him when I was on HG TV because that would
have been a different, different place, right, But did.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
It change anything for you, Cindy knowing who he was
after two months?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Kind so kind, great guy, great person, humble, you know,
just it's what is is? I think it was his
great grandfather's Dot Scripts newspapers for like, you know, five cents,
hey buy a newspaper to be coming out here, and
they still own I think the spelling Bee or whatever

(04:09):
they say.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
They kept that. He kept me.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Do that's right? Every now and then you see the
name Scripts pop up. Yeah, man, those spelling Bee kids
are crazy. But it's always an Indian that wins.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
You notice Indian Asian kind of like right there.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Okay, So I want to talk to anyone who's listening.
I'm Indian the saying I want I put it out there?
Why I call that out?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
And Tellia?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
What do you think is keeping you out there? You've
been doing this for how long now?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Designing twenty I'm going on probably twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Now, Okay? What gets you up out of bed every
morning to want to do what you do.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
You know, I just like that feeling of somebody enjoying
that space, knowing that I had a part of their story,
you know, bringing their vision or their life to another level.
You know. And with restaurants, it's really appealing to masses,
Like how do I take that idea and appeal to

(05:15):
so many people that they're creating memories, they're you know,
enjoying that immersion of food, design, ambiyonce all those things,
but then also with the residential project, just giving them
their their home, like that is getting, you know, better
than anyone else, that feeling, knowing that you've created their

(05:36):
space that they're going to raise their families in and
they're going to have birthday parties and baby showers. It's
it's just a cool, cool thing to be a part of.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
So you love getting up and going to work every day.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Right, honestly I do. But I will say I don't
know if I could do one without the other. If
I was full time television, it would exhaust me. If
I was full time just solely running my business, that
would exhaust me mentally as well. So I like having
both because then it kind of changes it up every day.

(06:09):
And and then you know, along with the TV life
and the business, I get to have my hand in
product development, my brands, my wall covering. Like there's so
many different things that I get to do with what
makes it exciting, that's.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
What TV brings. So what are you were last time
you were in my studio? You're working on slabs? How'd
that go over?

Speaker 3 (06:32):
And what did you say?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
You were working on slabs? Slabs?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right right, so great? That was
a long time ago. I've since now, In fact, earlier today,
I just had a meeting for the launch of my
new tile. I have my new line of wall covering.
And one of the things that I'm like super pumped
about is I have this collection of hotel accessories, so

(06:59):
ice bucket and tissue, paper holders and trees and you know, shakers,
all of that stuff. So it's just been all these
things take four years to develop and sample and get
everything going and the branding, and it's just been so
fun to be a part of it and learn how
to do it.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
So how are you moving? How are you moving product?
Are you moving at yourself? Moving it yourself or are
you putting it in stores? Amazon, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Most of what I'm doing is through the trades. The
hotel accessories will be available on Wayfair and Macy's and
JC Penny. But for the most part, everything that I
do is through the trade because my feeling Cindy was
I could Yeah, great, I can do wall covering. What's
one acce that wall going to do for me and
someone else? I want a hotel to do hundreds of

(07:46):
thousands of yards of my wall covering so that, yeah,
it's moving, it's making an impact for me and for them.
And you know. So I've had meetings with the Hilton
groups and Marriotts, so it's all part of their brain.
I'm spec books now, which is freaking so cool, you know,
like you know that now I'm a part of their
their their brand standards.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
So we were you having a lot of this product
made over in India? Because that's we have ties no.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
No, yeah, all over the place there. It depends on
what it is all over. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
And then is everything labeled your name so people know
what's your brand?

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah's some pieces right here behind me. Everything's labeled my name.
Let me see you want to see, Yeah, that's one
hold on.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
The listeners can't see, but I can see. Now you're
get to hold that thought because we're going to go
to break. I'm Sidney Stumple. You listen, Toughest Nails will
be right back and welcome back to Toughest Nails City
Stumpo and Samantha and Tanya and ik.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Okay, let me see that. Let me see what that
piece is. Okay, Ice bockets back, see.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
That.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
We kind of buy that right now.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
It's being launched at the end of this month. So
on it launches, it'll be available to consumers direct to
consumers on Wayfair and Macy's and JC Penny and then
obviously through the website of this company. And then but
again the goal is now only mostly through the trade,
so that a hotel designer is buying it for a
Bote hotel. It's going in every single room of the hotel.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
So and how you're tied in with Macy's already, so
you just show them the brand, they say, Okay, we'll
pick it up.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
We'll buy so many pieces. Is that the how they work.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Right Well, that whole part of it goes through the
company that I'm working with called Irwin. So they're they're
on that side of it, making those connections, and.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Then they handle that. I'm going to sha you something
right now, hold on, Sam, we talk to time you
for a second. I'm trying to bring up something.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
You're always so happy? Is that because you don't have kids?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
That's probably it?

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Oh I was saying, you're always so happy? Is that
because you don't have kids?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Oh? Yeah, probably you know what it is. There's no
point in being miserable, right, I agree. Okay, I have
my days, we all do.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
But hold on. You want to see what we're coming
out with.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Let me see.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You see her?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Is that a Barbie?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:19):
It's oh my god, come.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
On, it's Cindy the building because we got bobbed the building.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Hell yeah, yes, So.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
If you look, I'll send you a picture.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I see the hard hat, the jeans, I mean total
that is awesome.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
So we're going to have.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Are you standing what are you standing in a closet?

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Well, it's it's the bobby box or whatever that the.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
But what's on the side, It's like I can't see it.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Well, you have your ham or you're not, you know,
your little things?

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yes, I think every girl should play with the.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Cy Okay, I agree, I agree. I guess a boy,
but she's her female empowerment that I think.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I did so much homework on it. All they had
was Bob the builder.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Well, sorry, Bob the building got to move over, okay,
because there's Cindy the builder too.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, so it is. It's kind of fun. Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
So anyways, my other questions are best one, right, what
were the hard times for you getting out there, because
as a designer, not being a builder was much easier
for women?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Well was it hatter? Was it hot for the men
coming in in that field or.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
The woman's business for me? Because I'm in in hospitality,
it's not residential, and I was dealing with a lot
of male builders on the job site, you know, archetype builders, engineers,
contract is all male. And then myself. But I don't
know Cindy. Like I've told my team over and over

(11:56):
and over again, I'm like, listen, you show up and
you know what you're talking about, and you're well informed
and you're you're smart. No one's going to question you.
So I don't think we had. Of course, we've had
an issue here and there with certain people because it's
just the nature of who they are. But you just
have to show up and show up as the person
that knows what you're talking about. Be intelligent. I tell

(12:18):
all my younger team members all the time, do not
bring your voice stoft like, speak with conviction, Speak like
a boss, Talk like you know what you're speaking about,
because you do. Sometimes I feel the waiver because they're nervous.
They're young, you know, and they're kind of being immersed, immerged,

(12:39):
you know, in this situation where they get a little
nervous or start to question themselves. I'm like, just speak
from their gut, talk like a boss. It makes a
huge difference.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, just tell them take the Sinney stump, of course,
and they'll be called the B word, the C word
and every other world.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Right.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
But that's how I came up swing and I did
the first year twenty three years old. I was please,
thank you, and then that was done. That was done,
and then.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
The yeah then that came right fortunately, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Then there was no place. Yeah, we don't play. I
wasn't playing.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Don't you think times have changed a bit? Cindy? I
know you you earned it, You've built yourself, you in Sam,
But like I think things are different. You don't.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
I just say, now, do you want me to call Cindy.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
They haven't changed the way you think because I I'm
still dealing with I'm still in the fields. I'm still
not the guys that work with C Stumpo. It's always
like the inspectors and the guys that like I always
say it like they didn't make it in the fields.
At some point in their lives. They went inside, or

(13:45):
they they took a semi retirement.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Didn't want to build anymore.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
I've known a lot of good builders that became inspectors
and commissioners, but most went in because they couldn't make
it on this side the fence, right, So it was
on Mac.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
They hate on me.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Because so it's an insecurity of.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Course, you're making nothing next to what I'm making, right,
So you're in there, you're putting forty hours a week
in you're inspecting, and it just caused a whole whatever
you want to call it, Like I guess insecurity jealousy,
Like they're not jealous over another guy, but a young
girl out there making it and they weren't.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
That was a problem. Yeah, it's been a problem.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
It's that said something interesting What I would love to
know is what Sam just said is that they're asking
for you. So it's not even just a female thing.
Now there's an amiling.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
That's when she's on the job.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Okay, you meant the other way around.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Forgot it, But you got to understand the guys that
are on working at CE Stumpo.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
That's who she's talking about. I'm talking about the guys
I got to go deal with that. We have badgers.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Okay, she's just saying, okay, if the plumber's electricians, hvac guys,
famous fundation. Because I'm gonna listen to her, she's just
gonna say, I'm gonna call Cindy, and then everybody jumps.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Into the right.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
But she's not dealing with She's now, she's she's a
licensed builder, and I think I'm gonna stop putting her
on the front line, right and she can deal with
these these guys. Maybe I'm gonna put them on a
test drive with her to see now when she's younger,
how and they're older now and they're not my age,
Let's see how they treat her. So I think it's

(15:30):
changed a lot. No, I think it's a man's world.
In my business, and like Sam and I talked about
it was only sevent eight years ago that I went
to Bellemont and he said, we don't want your type here.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I'm like, what's my type?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I got for type? Yeah, yeah, I thought, but smart, educated?
Yeah what about?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
And then there were.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Happened to Sam.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Sammy walked in with the plans wrapped around her body.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm like, Sammy, this is not going to be good
like and yeah, they yeah, we don't want you hearing
where do I belong?

Speaker 4 (16:05):
They didn't believe you?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, And then.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
We went back to need them like years later after
TV by the way, and I go say, we just
bring the plants in, you drop them off, blah blah blah.
Right He's like, no, Mom, come on in this guy
like she was a fan of you us. I'm like, okay,
hold on, I'm coming right. Like it's it's been a tough,
tough career, like tough. I have a lot of balance
guts in my brain. So is it getting easier?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
But also women cannot It's like this, I've been peeling
off those badges off me, the b boss, the boss lady,
the this, the that, and now the next generation is
wearing them with a badge of honor. Like I've been
trying to remove the word bitch off me forever and
now I'm seeing everywhere on social media bitch boss, you know,

(16:56):
And that's I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
It's it's like, yeah, the mother, I was the bad mummy,
right because I had a career.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Now if a woman doesn't work, she's the bad mummy
because you stay home with your children.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Nobody can say you don't build a badasshouse.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Because you do.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Nobody can ever, nobody can ever knock there. So that's
that's the important part of the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
I do build a bad the thing though, I think
that's why I don't care. If somebody is going to
be a douche, I agree, then that's on them. I
don't care. I'm here to do a job. You want
to listen to me, and listen to me. You don't
want to listen to me. Take that up with the client,
you know, if it's somebody that's working for the client,
I'm not dealing with it. But got time for that,

(17:41):
I know.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
But you're getting more mature and as you age, you
get more confident.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
But even an inspector can't say you don't build quality.
You didn't build this because you did. They can't ever
knock that.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
No, they find out things. Look at I had great Tanya.
I had years where they come from an installation, inspectrum
and pull the insulation out of the silly come on,
not sign me off. They did some really nasty things, right.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
That is brutal. I mean, that's that's next level.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
If you can think about it. I always say to people,
if you can think about it, I've been through it.
Why I let them get away with it was what
was my Okay, let's go down that road. If I
opened my mouth back then, then no min was gonna
let their, no woman was gonna let the husband's near me, right,

(18:29):
So I just kept my mouth shut. I'm gonna hold that.
I thought, I'm gonna go to break. This is Sydney
Stumbo Toughest Nails and w BZ would be right back
and welcome back to Toughest Nails. This is Cindney Stumpo
and I'm here with Sammy and you speak.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I like your music.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Everybody loves my music.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Going on social media to they're like, I forgot about
that song. I heard my mother play that song. Oh
my god, I love that music, but here we tell you.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
So what I was.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Basically saying was, yeah, a lot of a lot of
crap throughout the years, and this got a big difference.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah there You big difference is that you as a
general contractor. It's the far fewer women in that role.
So for me as a designer, I'm coming in. I'm
certainly not happy issues that you've had by far. I've
had some, but nothing nothing even.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Close, which is a good thing because I really took
a thing. But ye again, I go back to twenty
three years old. I can't I couldn't find anybody like me.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
And then we didn't have Google, right, So automatically I
was like, oh, when people, I'd hear this all the time,
you don't look like a builder when they finally meet you,
and I'd be like, well, what does the bill to
look like?

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Not you exactly?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I heard that thousands of times, you don't look like
a builder.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
But then Google came out, and then all of a sudden,
you look at you know, now they could see you, right,
they had this vision what I was going to look
like because they're only talking to me over telephone, right,
So it's it's all so strange.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Like I said, now now.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
The Barbie's coming out, but all kinds of that way. Wait,
I have to tell you a funny. I have to
tell you what happened the other day. I was flying
home from Fort Lauderdale for a quick popping back at
at my house and this girl stopped me and she's like,
oh my gosh, I follow you on Instagram. I watch
a show blah blah blah. She goes, I'm a builder.

(20:26):
I said, a builder. She said, yeah, I'm a GC.
I own my own business. I said, do you know
Cindy Stempo. She's like, I know of Cindy Stempo. She's like,
I would love to meet her. And I said, girl,
you need to meet her, you need to talk to her.
So she's another female young Her name is Kayla. I
don't know her last name, but weirdly coincidentally, she just
shot me at texta this morning at like six thirty am.

(20:47):
She's like, I'm at the airport and I just he
just popped into my head and I wanted to just
connect with you and see if we could get a coffee.
But I've got to introduce each to her because I
feel like you would be such a great role model
mentor to her.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Do you know, well, do you have any idea? I
only have so much time in a.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Day, right, Like, it's I know, I know, I know,
but you know what airport?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
So I literally flew home from Florida a couple of
weeks ago, and I've been talking. I talked to the
guy next to me and the girl next to me
the entire flight. We didn't figure out to the end
that every one of us was in construction. Not once
did it come up until the end. Really, the girl
to the right of me, she does. She's a hers
energy raider at a Wooster and he works herself with construction.
We did not know until the end. Until I saw
him pull out the one and one other I started

(21:33):
talking about it. I was like, how did we not
talk about this for the last six hours that we
were sitting on this flight.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
I kind of love that, though, because it shows that
you guys had so much more to like connection than
just what it is that you do for work. That's cool.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
But yeah, I see a lot of young girls. Now
what was she know, he thirties twenties that you met.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, thirty probably early thirties.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, and they're all getting into it and the you know,
the biggest conversation I have with them the phone is
can you handle the stress of all this?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Right?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Like just I prepare them and call me is you
know it's not gonna be an easy walk in the park.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
But it's a rewarding walk in the park. But it's
not gonna be easy.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
And if you think, you know, Chase, people think you know,
they're watching this on Instagram, social media, you know my
social media.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I give you the war and wheel. Okay, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Giving I'm not kidding.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I'm not giving the final reveals. No, I got you
in my office, Richie. You're not account No, no, no,
I don't think you're not account Okay. You see what
goes on behind the scenes, right which is what we do.
So you understand that this is a hard jobs but
it's rewarding. But you can't think that this is just
gonna happen overnight. Cindy Stumpo, because it's c Stumple develpment.

(22:48):
It took thirty seven years to get here, you know
what I mean, it's every year building building building. I
know you like to use the word brands, and I
called it building a business That's what I was learned, right,
I was taught by my grandparents. Yeah, build your business.
No one said back then, build a brand. What's a brand?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Anyway, I got to ask you, what do your parents?
How much collagen are they eating every day?

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Like?

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Why do they look so?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I know, aren't they beautiful? They really?

Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's crazy. I mean I literally have an awe of
the of the two of them, and they seem very
in love and very happy and very young.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
They've been together since thirteen and fourteen. They kill each other,
but then they'll have they'll fight my car and then
they get out the car they're holding hands.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I'm like, oh my god, they're crazy, they.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Do, but they look yes, hilarious.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
You know, they've always been that beautiful couple to begin with,
and they've just aged. I mean, my father's still hands
eighty four years eighty five, he's still you know, and
he dresses like a cool dude.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
You know, he still carries Yeah he does.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
He set that swag and the way he walks still
has swag.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, he's still swag going.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, they just yeah people on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I put them on Facebook, on Instagram, but yeah, people
love my parents.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
They do well.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
That's one of the reasons why I'm here in Florida still,
is my parents coming here. I have a place for them.
So in the same area where I am, I have
a place for them. And they've been coming now for
the last four or five years, and this is the
first year I actually had a break from filming where
I could be here of work. I'm working from literally

(24:27):
just sitting at my counter, working from here. But it's
been so nice, like there's such a gift that we
have our parents still, you know, And how old you mom?
My dad's eighty eight, my mom's eighty two. And I
just posted this morning a photo I took them to
the beach in the morning for a walk and they
didn't know I was filming them, and they were just
holding hands walking on the sand. It is this. It'll

(24:49):
bring tears to your eyes. It's the sweetest video. They're
about to celebrate their fifty ninth anniversary.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, but it brings tears to your eyes. My eyes.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
But a lot of people I've learned in life in
the last ten years that a lot of people didn't
have good parents. I thought everybody had good parents, Like
maybe I lived in a little bubble. But yeah, I
look back now, and you should look back and say,
we were really lucky because we had a mom and.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Dad that loved us, right, And that's yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
You know, some people don't get that opportunity because they
lose a mom or dad and then the others. You know,
if I had lost I know how my family roles is.
Something had happened to Joe my but my parents and
grandparents were heavily involved with my kids, and so wasn't
Joe's parents, right, so then his father passed. But we're
lucky to be We're lucky even to know how lucky

(25:43):
we are.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Right, we know we're right right, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
So we want to get back to them because they
were good to us.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
And I think a big part of why your kids
are so respectful and do so well in life, it's
because they had their grandparents in their life. I always
say it with my nephews, like they're so lucky they
had their grandparents. I was probably a terror Hellian child
because I didn't have grandparents here. Thank you was part
of my life.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
You might have been Chad, he was my He's my
Helen child. Yes, angel sometime, but.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Again she's she's as close to my mom and dad,
and she was close to my grandparents. So it's been
generational the whole way, right.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
But I literally said, well, not everybody even has grandparents.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Nope, never met their grandparents. You did, But I said
to Ray, literally, this morning you met all your grandparents.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I sadly.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
You know, we have this family group text thing and
Joe Max husband sent this video and it wasn't relatable
to me by no means, right, So I came back
with why this wasn't relatable to me? And I only
needed two things growing up my whole life, and it's
still the same thing today. I don't care. I can
go make lots of money. I can make money, I

(27:04):
can whatever. The two things that I've had my whole
life that's been important to me is feeling love and
feeling safe.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
And I surce this day.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Need to feel that love and that's safe, that I'm safe.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Like I know Sey knows when she's with me, she
feels safe. I know that.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, she knows that I'm capable of anything to protect her,
right So I think both my kids knew that, right.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
So, and that's the way ever felt safe. Exactly, and
I never felt safe, never felt love.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, not either, neither.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
One, right, you can't think of the time. Same here,
same here. I remember though, growing up so in the
Indian culture, saying I love you is not really something
you do growing up in India. So I remember I
was like fourteen or fifteen years old and I said
to my dad and like, Pop, you know you never
ever say I love you? And he said, you know what,

(27:59):
his heavy an acid. He's like, don one should show
how much they love you, not have to say how
much they love you. So he never used to say it,
always showed it. But now that he's older, he starts
every phone call with Hi, Tom, love you and then
ends it with love you. He says it three or
four times in the call, and I'm like, why do
you say it so much now? He's like, I'm older

(28:21):
now I don't want to forget to say all the time.
But he's made up for all those years of not
saying it.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, maybe it's hard to show you because he's getting older,
so he has to do it terribly.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
And we got to go to break call that thought.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'm Sidney Stumple and will be right back and welcome
back to tab his nails on WBZ and I'm Cindy
and I'm here.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
With Sammy and.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Lem Yell.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know what's a great conversation is when things just
happen organically, right, like, yeah, you got three women sitting here.
We all do different things in real estate, but we're
we're all in real estate. We met thanks to HGTV
and then the I don't know, with an event whatever.
That was really kind of when we really came together.
But I love your stuff and I respect you, I

(29:07):
appreciate you, and I duel you.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
So when I say to somebody I'm proud of them
or I respect them that I don't use those words
very easily, Like I don't use the words you're beautiful,
like I'll say nothing, right, I just go, oh words
that meaning when I and you're a beautiful person, you're
a beautiful soul, everything, you got the whole package, right.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
And you're kind and you're there right and you can,
you're accountable, you bring everything. She's not a cancer? What
is she?

Speaker 4 (29:39):
I don't know what is your sign?

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Okay, that's why.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
That's oh, thank you. But to me, I feel the
same way about you. You know, when when we met
that day, not mad, I mean we knew each other
mostly of each other during our HGTV days, which is
weird because we were both in Boston. We should have
known each other more, but filming elsewhere. And then we
met at this women's event, like a leadership women's event,
and you came right up to me and you said

(30:07):
we need to talk. I said okay, and you invited
me to your office. Honest to god, I think we
spent three hours sitting there just chatting and chatting and
chatting and talking. And you're just the warmest, most amazing person.
You imparted so much wisdom to me, and you instilled

(30:29):
so much confidence. So everything you're saying to me, I
appreciate more than you know. But right back at you
and Sam, honestly you too, Like you guys are just
the best.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
But there are those people that just go, oh, you're
so beautiful, all this, all that, and they don't really
mean it right. So I always say that's why I
don't throw words around. I say to my kids all
the time, when I say I'm proud of you, you
will know, like it'll have meaning. I don't want to
just say, oh, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you.
I'm proud of you. No, yeah, Sam proud. They know

(30:58):
that it has meaning behind it, right. So and like
your father, don't tell me you love me, show me
you love me. So your father would do acts of
kindness to show his love. Right, anybody can say I
love you and then your has walks on the door
and he goes and cheats on you.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Right, I love you?

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Okay, yeah, uh huh yeah right, so it is about
acts of kindness.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
I agree with your dad.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
So yeah, Look, you have a long ways to go
in a big career ahead of you. And let me
ask you a question. Is your basket like almost full? Well,
the bucket basket's got a long way to go.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
No, I think I keep I keep trying to reinvent,
and I keep trying to go with the flow. Maybe
that's a piscy thing, like go with the flow. But
the you know, with television, and you know it's either
here or it's not. You're either on TV or you're not.
And so you for me, my advice to anybody who

(31:57):
wants to be in television, don't do anything exactly. Don't
do it right, don't do it or number two is
if you're going to do it, have have your real
I don't want to say real, but you know what
I mean, like your purpose. You're something that you don't
have to be feeling anxious like when's the next show?

(32:20):
What am I going to do? I don't have this,
I don't have that. Have it like right now. The
reason I'm focused so heavily on the brands is because
I am getting older and I am starting to think
about in the next ten years, eight years, whatever it
is to slowly start to retire. But I want to
have something substantial, and that's why I'm trying to build

(32:42):
this up now. So if I'm not filming, I'm busting
my ass right now so that I'm in a good
place down the road. And that's what I'm ready to
chill out.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
And the ones that did it right really did it right.
Like I when I came on TV, I wasn't ready
to surround myself with the right branding people and all
you girls like I don't gave me any crap there
because I was the builder and all the designers on
HGTV were pushing for the next Walmart. I I get
this that, so at least they were all kind to
me because I wasn't a threat, you know what I mean?

(33:16):
A lot of cadness back then, if you really think
about it, right, but you stayed.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
There, maybe yeah, I don't know. I think back then
it's possible there was cattiness. But I feel like now
the relationships I have with my friends from the shows,
like Alison Victoria, Sabrina Soto, you know, I have such
a core group of friends and everybody's really lifting each
other up and helping each other, you know, Sabrina and
I constantly, Girl, you need to get on this. It's

(33:42):
going to help your career. Talk to this person. I
got this thing. I can't do it. You do it
like it's we're helping each other out, which is the
way it should be.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
But you two stay close and you can see that
you guys are friends, right, and stayed friends and more
than friends, and the way it looks to me right.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
But then I got the bitchy one what was her name,
the tall blonde I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
When she walked up to me at that party and
she said, excuse me, do you really wear Louis Vuitton
bag to work every day? And I'm like, that's my
work but I guess and then she's like, well, I
don't I don't think that is right. I'm like what
she was like, I don't know. She's like five to eleven.
I forget her name.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
She was so tall. The blonde come on, she's got
with h G t V.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
There were there were two tall blondes. There was Monica
Peterson and Candae Sulsen.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
There you go, so then we're all have to take
a picture together. And then my producer ming walked over
and said, yes, Cindy because she.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Took my pocket book right, and she ran around my
pocketbook like it was her pocketbook. Then she hands me
over my irmez Berken and she looks at the broke
and she she goes, I went, yeah, that's my Now
that's my night bag, okay, And she didn't know what
to say. She was like, I was like listening, was like,
I can just go away from me.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Lady, Yeah, oh no, no reason.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
No reason.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's my work bag. I flowed up with Hamma. Screwed
you ever carry one of those big LV bags and
zip up. They can carry everything, pockets all of it.
But it was just but all the other stuff for me. Look,
this guy's working me through Sammy and calling Sammy and saying, Sammy,
you know you go back to TV. It just seems,

(35:25):
oh she spoke to me. It just seems for me
now my life like at a lot of work. And
even twenty nineteen, when we did another trailer or teaser
for a trailer, it was a full trailer for a lifetime.
Samy and I looked at each other and said, can
we do this again? See, you guys are able to
give those final reveals. We're building these big, massive homes, right,

(35:49):
it's hard to give those final reveals, right, So we're
hurrying up a bathroom in a kitchen to be able
to do that. And if somebody just gave me what
I originally wanted was a construction show, it would have
been great because the stuff that goes on in real
life and not the pretend stuff like okay, it would
have been phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
And that's that's what we get up.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
That's why we have to team up and you do
the build build a house. I'll design the house. That'll
be a killer show killer.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, And I don't know, maybe we just take it
to YouTube. I don't know. There's so many things to do,
like a lot of people are taking things, not even
on air anymore. They're just building up their own you
know YouTube.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, well you got to kill digital is the way
to go these.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, these kids are doing something right. We're just that's
maybe not our you know, we still watch TV, you know.
And I said to the guy, I said, do you
have to think about going the other way? And he's like, huh, Cindy,
I'm ending my career on TV like that. I've been
a producer for all this, you know, for forty years. Whatever,

(36:57):
I'm staying, I'm staying here. So yeah, And the reason
why I called it was he was my cousin. He's
the front of the globe. Came out and they called
my cousin, said, is this your cousin? He's like, of course,
with my cousin, who do you think it wasn't that's
how it'll happen.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
So, but that's what you wait.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
You know, what what are you watching on TV? What's
the go to show right now for you?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yellowstone?

Speaker 3 (37:21):
How do you how do you decompress the brain?

Speaker 4 (37:25):
We all like scripted shows.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, so I'm gonna be like I like Billions, Yellowstone,
I'm now going to try to get into the new suits.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
I just want I just started it.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
The new suit. It's not as good. It's not as good.
I hate ye bring back the old people, and then
I don't want to come back.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
They all wanted to come back. They didn't bring them back.
I saw an interview with them. And then you want
to hear the crazy pot I'll tape like a hundred
General hospitals obsed, and I will literally just to put
my sleepself to sleep at night because you don't have
to watch that show for ten years.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
You know you can come back ten years later. You
know who?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Everybody has the craziest thing I've ever seen, right right,
But I need something dumps me down.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Do you remember a guy he just died for He
was on General Hospital, really hot I design. I did
his house on one of the shows.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
You're talking about the Greek He played the Greek rich
kid black here.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I think, so, oh, you're talking black hair.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
The one that married the pretty girl was his name
on the show is Tyler, Christopher Tyler, Christopher.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Tyler, Christopher Nick Casadine. Yeah, yeah, I did his I
did his house on Wanted the Early my first.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Version right way, dive canswer something CARDI.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Hard Anyway with a Gloom and Doom by General Hospital.
I'm like, wait, I have a connection the Generals that
we got to go for a break.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I'm Sidny Stumbling and listen to Toughest Nails on WBZ
News Radio ten thirty and welcome back to Toughest Nails
on w b Z. And I'm Cindy and I have
Sammy and Tanya Tanya.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yes, all right, Well listen, there's a lot of things
going on. I've got my brands coming out, you know,
the hotel accessories with Irway, my new line of wall covering.
But I would love for you guys, if you're in
the Boston area to come visit one of our restaurants.
We've got Yellow Door, Talk Area, Lower Mills, Tavern Madre.
So yeah, come by, say hello.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
And that is oh you went there with with Danielle
and her kids?

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Which one?

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Next time? Heads up?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I'll see when you get back to Boston. Love seeing you.
I'll see you in a couple of weeks. Everybody, have
a great, safe weekend and we'll see you next week.
Have a great safe week See you next week. This
is Cindy Stumbo Toughest Nails on WBZ news radio ten thirty,
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