Team David with Christopher David

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And welcome to Cindy Stumpo Toughest Nails on w b
Z News Radio. And I'm here tonight with Chad my son,
Samantha my daughter.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
And who do we have as a guest.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Here, Christopher David.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
So, Christopher, you caught you caught my eye. There was
something about you that was special, your delivery special. It
looks on so bad either, but that, like I said,
that's not why I brought you to radio.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
But you kind of do. Look at people. Never say
you look at Brad Pitt.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I get that a lot. I get Brad Pitt. Avery, Avery,
Who's Who's that's my son? My son? Avery commitment.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, we'd like to say your son, that's my that's
my boy. Hi. Avery, how are you? How old? Avery?

Speaker 3 (00:43):
How are you? Avery's eleven?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
So you got my youngest son.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I have two sons. Avery's my youngest and my oldest
son is Isaiah. And Isaiah works for iHeart Radio, So
so he.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Does what's he do for iHeart Sales?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Works in sales and marketing.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
The mast Christian, you get like the cuckoo birds, and
I get cuckoo birds.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Oh. I literally just had some woman send me a
whole long message saying that she's going to ruin my life. Yeah,
that she's got the text message that voicemails for me
and pictures from me. And I'm like, I have never
talked to you in my life, Like what are you
talking about right now? Like no clues, because there's there's
a ton of scammers out there right now using AI
pretending to be me, and they're going out there. Unfortunately

(01:26):
my my my following is a uh predominant women that
are single, and these scammers prey on these women and hold.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
On, hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Shocker that mainly youre following is women.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Soccer.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
But it's actually kind of funny because on my social media,
you see what I do for a living. You've been
on my social media now, obviously, right, I think I
have more male follows or female follows.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I would think male.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Most people would say female.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I would Yeah, I'm always with seventy percent. So I
always put on my Instagram. I guess women don't like me.
It just has to do it when I do it
for a living, right, So it's not like I'm thirty
years old. I'm half naked on Instagram. Let's call it
what it is. I think people guys are intrigued at
what we push out for products.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
So that's that.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, I think men. I think men. Men are more
accepting of a strong, intelligent woman than women are competitive
with each other.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh god, I guess you haven't read a lot of
those soy boys that make remarks on them that twenty
eight to thirty five. I'm going to punch their heads,
and oh, I get it.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I get a lot of young guys that make comments
on my posts and I'm like, dude, come on, let's
be honest. You couldn't even tell much too, get it?
So real?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, So I make a sport to go back at
them late at night when I've got nothing to do,
Like in midnight, when I'm lying your bad going, you know,
I think we have some fun with this kid. I'm
going to bring him down to his knees. Then I'll
lift him back up right.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I'll justly go like, hey, buddy, do you know what
I do for a living all day?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
You don't want to know what I do? What do
I do for a living all day? Sammy?

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I bring guys down at the ENnies all day and
then raise them back up right. So like, back at ya.
And by the way, you're coming after me. Have you've
seen that bathroom you're built that doesn't work? It came
from home deepo. I have never seen things so bad
in my life anyways, but no one.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
So you grew up and wherever, we'll just call it where.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I grew up.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yes, okay, well we're not going to doc sho an you.
How's that?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
That's fine?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Okay, we're not going to doc you. What made you?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
What is the biggest message that you're trying to send
on Instagram right now?

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Hope?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Explain?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I think I wrote a book. I don't know if
you saw that or not. I wrote a book. It
was never just about me, the journey to save my life.
And I've been through it all, right, I've been I've
been through it all. I've been through You know, people
look at somebody like me and I think I had
an easy life, or I think that i'd had things
that were just it was easy and it wasn't all right.
So if you can't, what.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Makes you hold on? What made you? Why?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
I would look at you and think you had a
pretty easy life, But okay, you don't look beat up
so right? It makes you say you had a hot life.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I was abused as a child, you know, and then
I made a lot of I made a long wrong choices.
And then I got married and put on my eggs
in one basket and uh and when I did, uh,
I you know, when the divorce happened, I lost everything.
I lost my job because I worked for a dad.
I lost my house, and I was living out of
my car for six months and I was suicidal and

(04:34):
so yeah, so I went on this journey, uh, discovery
and found myself. When I wrote this book, it was
ever just about me because I realized my journey, my
story isn't just my story, It's everybody's story. And uh
and my youngest son thinks I'm Superman, so yes, he
should better everybody else. What does the Superman do better
than everybody else? He brings hope, right, an idea of

(04:58):
I'm something better. So my thing man is to show
people that you know that it's your choices, it's your accountability,
it's your responsibility. If you want to change ther world,
it starts with you. You know, it starts with you.
It doesn't start with some big scale you know thing.
If you really want to change ther world, if you
want to really make a difference in your life, and
everybody who cared about life, then you've got to work

(05:19):
on you, you know. So I just my whole message
is that you know accountability.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
And you know people let me hold you there.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
That word accountability is a big word for me because
ninety nine percent of people don't hold themselves accountable.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Oh no, none of them did. It's the hardest thing
in the world to do. Why it's the hardest thing
because because because because understanding that you had, you had control.
So like for me, for me instantly, like my my
whole path, right, Like, yes, I was abused, Yes I
was sexually abused, I was physical abuse. All those things
happened to me, and they were terrible, right, they were
horrible things that happened to me, and they shouldn't have happened. Right.

(05:55):
But my response to all that, how I handled that,
how I dealt with that, is one hundred percent my fault, Right,
It's my fault. Like nobody made me turn to drugs,
nobody may be turned alcohol, nobody made me turn to
self deprecation. Right, I did that all on my own.
So I think I think for somebody to sit there
and look in the mirror and go you know, like, yeah,

(06:16):
that was all bad, that was all horrible, but I
made it worse, right.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, I know, But I'm not I'm not. Look, I'm
not a psychiatrist. But there's there's trauma as kids that
we all have some trauma, I guess. But that that's
not trauma. That's that's some severe trauma, right, that's sexual
and physical abuse. You know, every mom tells a kid,

(06:40):
he go f yourself here in the air, and you're
an idiot or whatever. But this is, this is this
is beyond the norm. Right, So why do you blame
yourself in making poor choices when poor choices were put
on you?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Because because it happens everybody, right, nobody.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
That doesn't happen everybody.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
But if it does, though, if you look at a
large scale, if you look at a large scale, you
look at it at a broad perspective, there's probably more
people that have been physically, emotionally or mentally abused growing
up or even as as as an adolescent than not. Right,
I think the norm is that Now, I don't think
the norm is an okay life. Like it's not it's

(07:20):
not like it's not the it's not the partner's family.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Right, I don't know, can you something?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'm going to be honest until I and again my algorithm. Right,
it's about your algorithm before I go into social audio
like Chatter, and I sit on the board of a
social audio called Chatter but Clubhouse Twitter, which became X.
It took me to fifty five years old to realize

(07:48):
that most kids were not brought up in a safe
home with safe parents. And sure, I agree there, let's
hold that. I thought I'm gonna go to break, We'll
come right back. I'm sitting stumbling the Toughest Nails on
WBZ and leave right back and welcome back to Toughest
Nails on WBZ. And I'm here tonight with my son Chad,
my daughter Samantha, and some handsome dude from wherever.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I don't know where he's from. We're not going to
talk some me. What's your name, handsome dude, Christopher David?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Okay, So I was saying I didn't learn until social
audio to about fifty five that a lot of kids
like I went to bed every night. I felt safe.
I had a dad that and my mom that made
me felt safe. I don't know what was like to
be scared to go to bed at night. I didn't
know was something going to come in my room and
hurt me. I didn't know any of that, right.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
And which is amazing. That's amazing that you got that experience.
That's a god gift. That's a gift. That's a gift.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
But I thought, well, my kids would tell you they
had the same thing. But I would tell you this.
I thought I was the norm. But I'm beginning to
feel I'm not the norm.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
They're not the norm. No, No, you're the special ones. Right,
kids like my kids, like my oldest son, like I
meet his mom. You know, we separated, we found in
court for four years, but I raised him with his
mom there, right, So he will tell you that even
though he was from a divorced home, he never felt
like he was from a divorce.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Our parents divorced and we don't know what divorces.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's amazing, right. See, that's
that's that's good parent me. That's that's being bigger than
the situation itself. Right, That's that's what we all should
try to achieve. Right. Unfortunately, we live in a world
where you have adults that are really just just big kids,
you know, that's what they are. They're big kids pretending
to be adults. And they take it and and again

(09:39):
it goes back to that self accountability. Right. Unfortunately, we
live in a world where people like to project and points.
You know, it's your fault, you know, it's you're the problem.
You did this, and instead of doing it thing to
fix themselves. Right. And that's one of the things I
really try to promote is that you know, as much
as you want to point the finger, you know like
that that, yes, all the stuff that happened was traumatic,
it was all horrible, But if you really want to

(10:01):
change anything, it starts with you. You can't change people,
you can change you, right.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
You can't change I would say, you can't change the
past for sure, No.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
But you can change how you cope with it right,
how you deal with it right. You can do that.
You literally have power to do that. Right. So, like
people don't live in depression or or you know, anxiety.
They're living in DEPRESSI because they're living in the past, right,
They're they're upset about something that they happen to them
back then, and they're living with anxieties because they're anxious
about what's in the future.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's me. I know I have them. I'm worried about
the future. I'm worried about what I don't know.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, that so so so that right there, when you
say that I'm worried about things I don't know, you're
actually giving power to that. You're you're actually letting you
go of control of of what you really have control of,
which is right now, like the present. That what you
really have control over in your life is what you
do on a daily basis, right, not the future. It's

(10:59):
not here yet. You can't do anthing about That's like
sitting in a rocket chair and expected to go somewhere
you're worrying is not going to go anywhere, right, And
then you're worried about this and be depressed about the past.
Holding on to a feeling or an emotion for the
past is also robbing you of what you really have
right now, which is a gift, which is the present,
right And and I think I think people are afraid
of that. That's that's a lot of responsibility, Like, that's

(11:20):
a lot of responsibility to say, oh man, you know what,
I have control over this, because now all of a sudden,
you're accountable, right, and nobody wants that. Nobody wants to
be accountable. Nobody wants to have that responsibility of realizing
that you really do have the power and the control
to change your life, to become the person you want
to become, to be the parent who want to be,
or the sibling you want to be, like you have
those abilities to do that. So that's really what it's

(11:41):
really what my message is just to empower people, to
let them know that, you know, again, if you want
to change your world, man, it starts with you.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
So what happened one day?

Speaker 1 (11:49):
You were you a teenager when you picked up whatever, drinking, dragging,
whatever you're doing to kill the pain.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
No, no, actually, actually I was called moral man in
high school. I was a really good kid. I was.
I was a really good kid. I was going well. Man,
I didn't drink and to do drugs. It wasn't until
my parents told I was. They thought I was hanging
out with people that were and I wasn't, and they
accused me. That gave me the the okay to say,

(12:15):
you know what, you don't believe me, then I'm just
gonna I'm gonna do it. Then screw you, you know
what I mean? And uh, and it just compounded all
this would of it?

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Why would your parents accuse you something if they didn't
see that you were doing anything wrong, Like you can
tell if the kids.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Because my because my friends were doing it, and they
saw my friends doing it, like my friends would come
over to the house if you smell like pot or whatever,
we can, so they just automatically assume that because they
were not because that's the crowd I'm hanging out with,
that I must be doing it too, and uh. And
they took me for a pistas and I remember I
really took me for a pist ass and the ladies
said it was the first job or like now my
parents did get drugs, and I was really upset. I
was really upset they didn't believe me. I was really

(12:52):
really hurt, but they didn't believe me. And I'll I'll
never forget. I was at a college frat party and
I had guys in my ear man, tell me go ahead,
and your parents are you can do it with you?
I not doing it? For go ahead? And I was like,
you know what, I was so mannergized. I said, okay,
let's do it. And it took me out a sippery slope,
you know what I mean. My uncle said the best.
My uncle said the best when I was a kid,
before I did anything. He said, you know, Chris, every

(13:12):
time you do a drug or you take that drink,
you lose a little piece of yourself. You make an excuse,
and the excuse gets easier and easier and easier. And
he was right, it does. Man, when you started making
excuses for your life, or excuses for your habits, or
excuses for like going to the gym. I'm going to
trainer for twenty six years, right, so so I you know,
when you make that excuse, all, you know what, I
don't need to go today. Guess why. You're probably not

(13:33):
going to go tomorrow either, you know, and you're probably
not going to go the next day. Next thing you know,
a month is going by and you haven't mad gym.
And the reason being is because you made that excuse
your priority, right, You're why it wasn't big enough. So yeah,
I mean, yeah, so you have to you have to
make sure that can I y be.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I don't want to wake up tomorrow with an aching
back and I want to be able to sit on
a toillet without feeling the pain in my line's good feeling.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
That's all good late, Like there's are all good things
that you just said.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, so you're telling me in twenty six years, you've
never taken a break from the gym and said I
can't I need a break for a month.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Oh no, No, I didn't say that, Okay, nogue it,
but but you know I would say, I would say
in thirty I've been I've been a trader for twenty
six years. I've been working out for thirty plus years, right,
so I bought my first weights that when I was
and I'm forty nine. Okay, yeah, so so yeah, so
if you can, I've been working out a long time

(14:31):
in that and that time frame, I'm sure there's probably
been a month or a couple of days or whatever
I missed the gym, you know, but I've always gone
back to it, you know, I've always I've always reverted
right back to that. It's always with my saving grades.
The gym is actually more therapeutic than going to see
a therapist. It actually helps cure depression and everything else
about I gu it's like seventy eight percent more than
a therapist.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
You know what, I think here is depression. Get up
every day and go to work. You won't have time
to be depressed.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Sure your job unless unless you write your job. I
know you hate their job to depress every day.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, if you hate your jobs and change your job.
But you know what, Yeah, I think our president, whether
you like them or not, said the best is that
you don't want to be depressed and go to work
every day.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Have a purpose.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yes, the same as always worst you right, always first
sacking people say you know, people say they don't enough
time to work out. He says, get up earlier.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Get up earlier, exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
So accountability is a big word that you're trying to
teach people. Do you know she had a lot of
younger people following you. What's the age demographics?

Speaker 3 (15:32):
And I can say, well, my age demographic is all
over the place. I have eighteen to seventy five year
olds following me, like it's pretty all over the place.
Like I just I didn't even know I had a
younger demographic followed me until I got invited. So big.
I'm a big gradvocate for men's mental health, right, I'm
a big speaker on that. I'm a big advocate for

(15:53):
father's rights and courts. But I speak about mental health
a lot for men, you know me, because the highest
two is our rate is met, right, the highest one
is rate is met. And unfortunately, you know, we don't
talk about it and we don't bring it to attention
because guys suck. We're not like women where we could
actually organize and actually have, like, you know, bring awareness
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
You women are amazing to that, and you guys, you
guys are horrible at that.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, we're we are horrible bringing attention to that and
talking about stuff like that. So I think again, like
me talking about you know, I was in I was
in an abusive marriage. You know, my wife used to
punch me all the time and tell me I should
kill myself, and and I was an abusive marriage. And
so when I when I talk about those things again,
you don't see somebody like me going through any of that, right,
But I talk about it because I want to bring

(16:40):
awareness to it, because it's not just one sided, right,
And I think we really want to have If you
really want to have stronger men, if you want to
have good, good examples of men, right, then we need
to be honest about things, right. We need to be truthful.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Well, then here's what I here's my little two cents there. Okay,
again to your relationship with an abusive woman. Shouldn't start
off that way, or she did start that way, let's
call it the way it is now she that way? Now,
So she had a baby that went cuckle crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yes, okay, that can happen. That literally can happen. Right,
I'm sorry. I hate to tell you, but so so that.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Again, Man, I'm not gonna put I'm not gonna put
all of it on her like I'm saying it.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
There's a pattern that you seem to have tolerated, right,
and I think we.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, yeah, because the environment I grew up in, right, So,
the environment I grew up in, I always always figured
I deserved. So, so when you live in an environment
that's volatile, right, you get addicted to dopamine spikes, the
roller coaster of emotion. Right. If you don't have that
roller coaster, it's scary if you're not going, like, you've
never grown up in that, right, you never had to fight, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Think we all have.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
But wait, hold on here, I think we've all had
those dopamine ups and downs growing up, right, Like I
I don't. My father was definitely not the coo of IBM.
It's more the seal the streets. But hold that thought,
would take a break. It will be right back. I'm
Cindy Stump and you're listening to Toughest Nails on WBZ,
and welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBZ. And I'm
Cindy STUMPO when I'm here with Samantha and Chad.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
And your name is Christopher David.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I think that's an I think that's an eight K
stage name. But it's okay, E you have it, Okay, it's.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
My real name. Is My real name is Christopher Allen David.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
That's my it is okay, all right, So we figured
we play watch do it because it fits you very well.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
It's funny. It's so funny because people like so people
will think I have a big voice, or it'll think
that I pretend to be a certain way, and I'll
be honest with you. I'm too stupid anything else but me.
I can do that.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Okay, But.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I'm going to ask you a question and I haven't
even gotten to my questions I'm supposed to ask you
because I'm just Sometimes we just go organic.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
I'm gonna ask you straight up. You think you're a
good looking guy.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I don't think I'm bad looking.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Okay, thank you to your ues. Do you think your
looks help you with social media?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Oh? Absolutely no, absolutely, my voice and mother's absolutely absolute
help me out with social media, because I mean I
made a choice. What's up?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Well, because before I came here, I had to go
to my hairslong get a haircut fast, right, And I
showed them my guests that were coming, and the hairdressers
were going google at over you, and they were men.
I'm just telling you all right, and they're like that,
Oh my god, listen to his voice. I'm like, hold on,
I didn't catch that party.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Either, right.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
So all right, So your social media I think you
put out really well. I think your delivery. So I
think that every age group should follow you because we
have a very very soft generation behind you.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Very soft.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah. Well, well that was the thing I was saying.
So so I I I actually got invited. I didn't
know I had a younger generation of men followed me.
I didn't I didn't know that, Like I knew I
had a lot of women following me. But I didn't
know I how to. I had men follow me, right
and young, you're just.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
The one stoff for the women, so we can get
past that. Okay.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Then, so they invited me to go speak for Amend's
mental health thing at a power Liptic competition at mom
A University and it was the guys who has to
come and it was amazing. I was really honored by it.
I thought it was just amazing. Right, So I think
I never when I started this journey, I like even
when I wrote the book, like I never thought. I

(20:21):
didn't advertise it. I didn't put it out there. Like
when I wrote the book, I was like, you know,
somebody will find it and they'll read it and they'll
change their lives and they'll be the ones that change
the role. Right, There'll be ones that take information from that.
It'll help them and they'll go out and spread the
word of positivity and hope and all that stuff. I
had never thought in a million years my social media
would take off. I didn't think that either. I literally

(20:41):
just started posting stuff honestly for me and my kids.
I had Team David on my Instagram. That Team David
seventy two is literally my sons. My team is my kids,
it's their last name, and they're sixteen years apart, right,
So I wanted them to feel like they had a
family and they had something that nobody else had, which
is me as their father, you know what I mean.

(21:01):
So I literally just started posting stuff and then to
fight my own depression. Right, So, so I tell people
all the time, and nothing I do and nothing I've done,
is a quick fix. There's no such thing as a
quick fix, just like going to the gym, there's no
quick weight loss. There's no such thing as twenty minute ads.
Like you know, that's not a thing.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Wait, wait a minute, hold on, hold on, stop that,
stop that hold on. They told me if I do
one hundred of days a day, I would really did
they lied on Instagram?

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah right, so they're just like working out. It takes
it takes repetition, and it takes practice. Right. So so
I tell people all the time, man like. So so
when I would fight my depression, right when I would
fight my anxiety, I would make a positive post. And

(21:51):
I made the positive post for me because nobody looks
at my social media bard I do, right, So I
made it for me. So it was like when I
would see what I would say in the positive manner,
I would see like a post as a quote next
to me and that thing. I it was my way
of trading my brain to be like, all right, listen,
I might feel bad right now, but this isn't this
is temporary, This isn't how I need to be. This
is not how it needs to be changed. My thought

(22:13):
process everything changes. And but yeah, so I never thought
a million years I would. I would. You know that
could be anybody.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Well, now we know why you start to share your story. Okay,
don't let the fire early on a parent, teacher, or
someone else to make you become this person that you are.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Now that's a good question. I don't know, you know.
I it was my kids. Everything I've done, this for
my kids, everything I've done for myself. So so if
I had to put a moment to where I made
a choice, so before I was, I did, uh Before
like I saw, I told you I was in a
dark place, right and I thought about, you know, hurting

(22:50):
myself and ending everything right because my family wasn't talking
to me. My ex wife was adamant that my kids
were better off I was dead, you know, and all
this stuff, and I really sort of believe because I
was such a dark place. But I went and delivered.
I went and saw my oldest son. I always told
my youngest son first, and it was kind of like
I was say goodbye without them knowing I was say goodbye.
And I gave him an action figure that had Superman

(23:13):
on it on one side and Clark Kent on the other.
And he literally picked it up and he looked at it,
and he looked at me, and he looked at it again,
and he goes daddy, and he thought it was Superman.
So so I made a choice. I was like, wow, man,
you know Superman's you know, he's got a real character
first of all, but you know he does something better
than anybody else does. He brings hope, right, he does

(23:33):
what's hard, even though he could do it's easy. Right.
And so I decided that no matter what I went through,
that I was going to come back and be that
example for my kids. His life was hard. Life is
not easy, you know what I mean? It was my kids.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I got so many questions for you, So I got
to get to them.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Oh no, go ahead, no, I got I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
I ever have to walk away from something that didn't
feel true to you.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, Man, you.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Didn't want to walk away from a relationship women?

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, now yeah, if you get no, I've walked away.
I walked away from a lot of things, you know
that didn't serve me. You know, That's what I think.
It's also broad to being an adult, right, is that
you know, you have to recognize when something actually serves
you in your purpose and when it's just holding you back.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Right, When do you think most people become adults?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
When do you think most men become adults? In your opinion?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
In my opinion, that's I think that's I think that's
a broad question. I think. I think I think men
come adults when they take the responsibility of specif their parents,
they think the responsibility to being a father, you know
what I mean, you know, and when you when you're
like my kids. I made a deal with myself when
I was seven years old. My dad lived at Florida
and I lived at Pennsylvania, and I only saw him

(24:53):
during the summers, and I would cry, I would bow
my eyes out of each on my left hand. And
I made a promise myself when I was seven years
old that I would never let my kids feel that.
And and I didn't, you know, my dad's and I
don't blame my dad, my dad, my dad's dad, his dad.
They were all absentee fathers, all of them, right, So
that's what they knew. And I just knew that I

(25:14):
was never gonna do that, right, I was never.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Does I think when a man generation your father's were
all absent to your deaths?

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yes? Absolutely? Yeah. My my my great grandfather was English.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Are you English Irish?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah? I'm German, Irish, Welsh and Russian Jewish Scottish.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well hold on say that again.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
German, Irish, Welsh, Russian, Jewish, Scottish.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I get so many things.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
You get your parents, because my my family's they got
around a lot.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Did you hold on for it? Did you have any stability?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
A good grandma, a good a good Niana, whatever you
call it, like one good adult that sets the tone
to like anything.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
No. So my real father was good to teach me comedy.
You know, I love mel Brooks because of him.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
And I love that's great. Teach me something that's good.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
My step my stepfather taught me how to build houses,
fixed cars.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
That's that's a good one. You learned the skills.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Well it is it is, it isn't it isn't right,
So so like it's like he taught me and I
would spend time with him, we would doing it. It
was I was a slave. I was the one who
did all the work work, you know what I mean.
I was. I have a step brother that's his son,
and those two would work together. They be, you know,
having lunch together, working together, and I'd be the guy

(26:45):
over there carrying the sandbags and like gin throwing stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Down, and so you would you would treat it secondary
because you were the step kid.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Absolutely no, absolutely, yeah. My side of the house. I
grew up in a farmhouse, an eighteenth century farmhouse. And
where my side of the house that I grew up
in had the maid's quarters that that wasn't connected like,
it wasn't connected by it is that where you It
was a porch, yes, and there was no key on
that side of the house. It's just a fireplace Jesus right,

(27:12):
So if you could. There was only a fireplace, and
there was a underground well, a meat locker underground well.
So it was always cold and outside the house and
I would literally ask my friends to come over and
sleep over with me. The cut wood so I keep
the fireplace going, so I would say warm at night,
like that's that's the guys. I was true for kids.
So yeah, so so as much as he taught me
a lot, I mean he did. He did teach me
how to be a man, how to do work hard,

(27:34):
and he taught me good work at the absolutely I
can I can't feel that.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I can't tell you something.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
People that I follow on social media, I study them first,
right first, I might see something. If I see something
I like, then I'll hit I'll go to your page,
as you say, I'll follow a lot of people. I
think I followed twenty four hundred people at max. Right,
But when I see something that's stupid, Okay, I'm City Stumple.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
He listen to w BZ. We'll be right back. That's it.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Toughest Nails will be right back, and welcome back to
Toughest Nails on WBZ. And I'm Cindy Stumpo And you're
here with Samantha Chad. You got a name over there.
So I'm pretty good because I'm pretty good at reason
reading people, right, even it's a talent, I don't know
if it's called being a cancer born between June and July, right,

(28:25):
I see the mask behind people and I can see
the true face. I look into your eyes and I
read you so looking at you through your videos, I
don't see pain in those eyes at all. And I
can find pain, but I don't see that. So if
you've lived, you're healed. You don't have pain in your eyes, buddy,

(28:48):
And let me tell you, I can see pain from
a mile away.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I'm very impact that I am.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Actually, honestly the happiest ever been in my life. I mean,
my son lives with me. I see my son lives
with me, my oldest son. Me and him are best friends.
I talk to him every day. My career is taking off.
Everybody I love and.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Care about is taking off.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
This you know. My podcast just won an award. Advice
some Films just won an award, a Singles Award for
Listener's Choice for Help and Self Improvement, which is amazing
because we're only thirty eight episodes in. We just started,
so we beat some really big names to win that,
which is amazing. My book is back to a best seller,
which is crazy because I don't really advertise it. My

(29:31):
social media is taking off. Like not tomorrow. I got
all these celebrities that are now friends with me that
I never thought they would even know who the hell
I am, like at all, some farm boy from Aly, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
You know, hold on, they come on and follow you
because why like I get them because they want to
know about construction. Can you come to a lantern? Build
the house? Can you come to someone? And I'm on
the phone with what was his name, Chad Fighter?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
The Fighter. No, I'm having a conversation for fifteen minutes.
She didn't.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
I had no idea, right so he said to me,
because he goes, there is there a Manu house right now?
Because I said, listen, you'd have to afford to fly
my whole team out blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
You know I don't.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
I don't count on the people's money. But that's an
expensive He said, Is there a Manu house right now?
I'm like, yeah, this while we hang up, ask the
man who I am? And here's my full name? I
guess your full name. I went upstairs, I said, I
said to Ray, I said, Ray, who's Floyd Mayweather.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
He goes like this, Oh no, not again, not.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Again, Cindy, Is that you've been talking to him like, yeah,
so because my son was an amateur pro golfer on
the European Tour, he equates everything with golf with him.
Because I'm the horrible person when it comes to athletes
and sports.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
I don't care. You know, they live in my homes.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
But so Ray said, that's the Tiger Woods of fighting lightweight.
I went, I'd better call him back and tell him,
you know, like, I'm sorry. They know who he was,
right most. I've had a lot of those embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Moments in my life.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
But that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
So what do they want from you when they reach
out to you?

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Uh, just just to know me, which is crazy again.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
You know, those celebrities have more problems in the math book,
they got bigger problems than you and I together.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I don't think that they do.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, it's just it's just really cool that we can like,
you know that they know. It's just it's just again,
like I never thought any of this would transpire and anything.
I just knew that I wanted to help people, right,
I just knew that I wanted to be an inspiration
and be the superman my kids think I am right again,
and just make a difference. Right, My my biggest thing,
my my biggest concern and is not just being a

(31:43):
good father, but my legacy I leave for my kids. Right,
I want to be that example because I know when
I'm gone and I'm not here, that life is going
to be hard for them, right, that things are going
to happen. You know, they'll have to deal with death,
They'll have to deal with loss, They'll have to deal
with all this stuff, and and and I just wanted
to show them that they can make it through it
all right, that their perspective of their their idea of it,

(32:04):
their their their accountability of it, that they can they
can be okay, Like they're gonna be okay no matter
what they go through. So that was always my biggest concern.
Everything else just a bonus, like it's it's just a bonus,
like you know what I mean, sitting here talking with you,
a bonus. That's just it's just cool, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
So, yes, I just I just have to ask you
really fast, when is your birthday? What month?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
August?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I knew you're a virgo, I told you, so, wow, Okay.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I'm a verger. On the custodio.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
My son called first, I knew you were a verger
just by the way you were talking, the stuff you
were saying. I was like, and the way you think
about life, I was like, he reminds me a little
bit of myself.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Here right on, bro right on compliment, thank you.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Well, here's what I have to say. I think, and
I don't think I'm wrong about this.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
If you go back to high school days, right, the
kid that's really a good looking kid, he's always not.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
People think that he's conceded.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
People think that he's this person when technically he's very
shy and he doesn't even know he's good looking. Then
you got the kid that's an absolute brain, is not
good looking, and he acts like he's my son's name
chat right. He acts like a chat right and he's
not really a chat right. So my question to you,

(33:24):
because I can see your features of your face, I'm
very detailed oriented. Obviously, that's a I build her. That's
what we do, very deep design builders. Did you know
in high school were you a shy kid with girls,
not talking with your buddies?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Did you walk around kid?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Were you're a good looking kid or did you grow
into your looks and you were an ugly duckling, like
what happened to you?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
So I teged schools a lot, like six times when
I was younger.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
By the way, folks, he's also a model, So that's
why I'm asking. Go go ahead.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Uh, I'm yeah, I'm on twenty two romance novels, which
is crazy, right, So.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, model, by the way, that's still have here in
the head, but go ahead.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
But yeah, I changed school six times, so I was
always the new kid, and you know, the new kid
the girls liked, the guys hate, right, and I just
wanted to fit in, Like I just really just wanted
to fit in. I just really wanted some friends. It
never really happened for me. I never I never was
really part of a group. I was always a weird kid.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
You know, I knew why why were you the wed?
Why were you the weird kid?

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Because I was like I because I because I like
to be a class class Like I want the attention. Right.
The time I got attention from anybody was I was
in trouble, right, So I would I would act up
in class. I wouldn't be like disruptive. I wouldn't do
anything rude or disrespectful. But you know, I'd make noises
or whatever, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
So so we went the kid that fired in the classroom,
were you.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
No, no, No, I was a kid. I was a
kid out of nowhere, and I would throw his pencil
into the roof and then then sit there. Okay, one
of those I mean yeah, like I was. I was
one of those kids. Or I try to make a
joke that nobody else got because of me, and I
lay forgot it, but nobody else did, you know. But no,
I mean I was always I was not siding consistico rogant,

(35:13):
but I was always attractive. But I always got prepared
to Like when I was younger, I got compared to uh,
Paul Walker, you know, or all those people, like I
still got compared to Brad Pitt in these younger days
and all this stuff, which was fine, But I really
tried to I tried to dunk down my little technic.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Brad Pitt's had a lot of work and he was
getting those jowls in the sides of his face.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Roof.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
So I think you're aging band and Brad Pitts, so
you might have it over bread.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
It drives me, that's what people say, Oh you're Brad
Pitt's dad. I'm like, he's twelve years older than me.
Not his dad, man, but now so so like I
actually tried to like dumb down my looks so I
could fit in, you know, and I actually try to
make I.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Have an issue with that. I have an issue with that.
I do me personally.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I'm not your psychiatrist here, right, but I'm a woman
that's as much common sense as you do. And I
can run right with you, and I can walk the
walk and talk to talk too, right. I just I'm
so busy walking the walk every day. I got no
time to do all the talking of the talk. That's
a you personal problem, right, Well, it was absolutely was.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
It was. It was totally me trying to be adequate
where I thought I was inadequate, right, And again those
are all things that I didn't realize. So I was older, right,
I didn't realize. And a lot of my life, the
choices that I made were based on other people's like
my job, like I was the person that will live
me to afford in my twenties to go model for them.
And I went home and I showed my mom the contracts,
and my mom is like, you know what looks fade, honey,

(36:41):
get a blue collar job, and I didn't. The contracts away.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
And then what made you listen to her?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Because my mom? That was my mom. I love my mom.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I show you and your mom had a good relationship.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
We did until about twelve years ago. Yeah, we did.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
What happened then you're both adults.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah no, Well I realized that my mom's uh uh,
you know, I don't. I don't my mom, but it's
in the book. So my mom, My mom's a pathological
war and the manipulator, you know, and she she is
really good at playing the victim. And when I got married,
her and my sister one other way to try to

(37:26):
destroy my marriage. And then and then when I when
I got in front of them about it, they lied
about it.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Were go ahead. So you think, old on, you think.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Your mom and sister destroyed your marriage when she's thrown
haymakers at you, they went.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Out of the way. Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no,
this is it's just before she did all that.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Okay, we were married for two years.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
The something that happened between me and her physically didn't
happen until about eighteen months into our marriage.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Oh that thought, I got to go to break. I'm
Cindy Stumple. You listen to his nails on w b Z.
Will be right back and welcome back to Toughest Nails.
I'm Cindy Stumpo and I'm here with my beautiful daughter Amanda,
and my handsome son Chuck and my good looking friend
Christopher David. Okay, Christopher, take yourself out. Give me seven seconds.
Let's go there, buddy.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
So can you find my book on Amazon? It's called
It Was Never Just About Me The Journey to Save
My Life. If you're looking for a self help book
about improvement, you can find it there. You can also
find me on my podcast Advice I Filter. We stream
everywhere man me and my co host Tony. It's on Everything.
And then my social media you can find me a
Team David seventy two on Instagram and on TikTok. Can

(38:35):
you see me and see me now? Seventy two?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I went two accounts and that's how everybody reaches you again.
What's your Instagram handle?

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Team David seventy two.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Great, everybody, have a great, safe weekend. This is Cindy
Stumpo Toughest Nails on wb Z. We'll see you next weekend,