November 10, 2025 • 41 mins
Late Sunday evening, the Senate voted 60-40 to advance legislation to end the longest government shutdown. Eight Democrats joined most Senate Republicans to advance the bill. The majority of Senate Democrats opposed moving forward with the deal because it does not address the health care tax credits, which has been their main arguing point throughout the shutdown fight. The timing of final passage of the revised package remains unclear as the legislation still needs a final Senate vote and House approval. We discussed the latest congressional efforts made to end the ongoing government shutdown!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, So we are talking about the end of
the shutdown. Well, it's not completely over yet, but a
big step was taken today when the Republicans fifty two
of the fifty three Republicans and eight Democrats provided enough
votes a total of sixty to break the filibuster. Then
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now it goes to the House and the House will
vote on it on Wednesday, and if the House agrees
with the Senate, which most people are hoping they will do,
it goes to the President's desk and there'll be appropriations
allowed and the crisis will pass. There will still be
plenty of debate, particularly on funding subsidies for Obamacare, and
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the Democrats will be able to make their case, the
Republicans will make their case, and I would hope that
there would be some sort of a compromise of the middle.
I don't want to see people lose their subsidies and
lose their medical health insurance. And I hope that the
Republicans are wanted enough to say, hey, look, let's look
at this now again. These subsidies which will be debated,
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we will talk about in the next week or so,
but I'm going to wait until everybody is up to
speed on them. Essentially, these were extended during COVID and
there was the sunset provisions put on. What's a sunset provision?
A sunset provision means that they were to expire at
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a certain point in time. I believe the point in
time was last September thirtieth. Now the question is that
theyre going to be renewed and at what level will
they be renewed. But that's the sort of debate that
Congress should be having, and hopefully, hopefully with the House
of Representatives being really very close, the Democrats are within
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five or six foot votes or even less now that
there's another member being sworn in from New Mexico. Bottom
line is the reform that I think comes out of
this is I'm tired of the shutdowns. I'm tired of
the shutdowns on both sides. I am not somebody who
wants to see the nuclear option exercise, whereby they would
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say we will get rid of the filibuster, and there's
a strict majority vote in the Senate. I think that
the sixty number of senators to break a filibuster is important.
But I want to hear from you. You know what
I think? Okay, I want to know what you think,
whatever your point of view, because at this point, the
one thing I think we can agree upon is that
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future shutdowns Congress, Senate, and House, their paychecks are held up.
They'll eventually get them, but however long they want to
stay out, no paychecks, simple as that. Small reform one seven,
two ten thirty. Only lines that are open right now,
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give us a call. We have two lines at six
one seven two four ten thirty. Let me go to
Bill and Danvers. I got Nick and Maureen coming up,
and I got room for you. Bill and Danvers, you
were next one night, Sager right ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yes, Hey, I'm I'm almost sure. Well I thought about
it now, I'm really not really in shock. So team
jeffries he wants to basically defeat it. So I guess
he's happy going into Thanksgiving. I mean basically, the airport's
will be down, the almost no flights. Yeah, it'll be paralyzed.
And then you know, people like I called before, I
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do know a few guys and they need to snap. Okay, yeah,
and and and and the work is I mean, you
know we're gonna you know, take care of things. I mean,
you know, people are gonna look around and say, well,
you know, do I want to take that job of
the government, because if I'm not gonna get paid like
this for a few months or whatever's gonna go on,
you know, maybe they you know, we'd lose some talent,
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you know.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I mean, well, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So much worried about that, particularly if the fur load
workers are compensated for the time they didn't work, they
will have had a basically a six week paid vacation,
and people who have been fired get their jobs back.
I think that again, there was just too much politics
involved here, and there's probably a lot of blame to
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go around on both sides. And that's why I'm suggesting
that going forward, the way to avoid shutdowns is to say,
when there's a shutdown, no one need because the shutdowns
are happening, the court continues with their case load. The
president is always the president. The president is not going
to say I'm going to sit in my office and
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do nothing. That's what Congress did now for six weeks.
Why should they get paid?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And there is King Jefferies has in an opponent basically
like an AOC, so he's probably concerning because you see
Schumer going down the drain. Uh, he's going to get
taken out and his day is a number.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I don't think. I think Schumer is ready to follow
the Pelosi a method. And you know, she's made enough
money in the stock market now she can she can
retire comfortably.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Did you see, Actually, Dan, I have, Yeah, I know,
but I have to confess. There's an app DUB. I
don't know if you've heard of it, so, uh, you
can basically you copy other portfolios because that's public information. Sure,
I forget when they did it, so if you look
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it up, it's called DUB. So about eight nine months ago.
You know, I said, geez, that's great. And I always
thought about copying Pelosi because she averages thirty year or whatever,
and she's one of the most popular on there. So
I'm up like fifty five. I mean, this is great.
You know, I bought a new cons So he says, well,
Pelosi hangs around four five years for a new car.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You got to find if her investments are no longer
public record. I read something over the weekend that was
extraordinary that she's now worth one hundred and thirty million dollars.
She and her husband, and then when she went to Congress,
oh in nineteen eighty seven, she had less than a
million dollars.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So I'm looking at other members of Congress to see
who's close so I can copy them. You know, I'm
researching it now, you know. But you know what, but
when you watch it and there's a day of markets down,
but like there's something announced with a healthcare or a
regulation or you know, something like the government.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well Bill Lemias goes, how, here's my question. How quickly
on this. Let's say that you're following Pelosi and you're
going to say, okay, I'm going to follow her trades.
She trades at at noontime and decides to buy, you
know whatever, How soon do you see I want to.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Say, uh, it's uh they rebalanced it the other day
because they sent me a notice dubbed they manage it.
I want to say, it's every thirty days. So there
is a little bit of a of a of a
of a drag. But you're close, you know what I mean.
And I'm doing way better than I could ever do
or even my guy. I have a regular guy for
my investments. My ira, I defroll ones.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
You know, we're not bad.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
They've been doing good.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Did you find this website? Just found it. It's called
dubbed du.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
No no, no, yeah yeah. If you if you go
to the you can go on I think online. But
if you go to the app store, if you have
the iPhone or whatever, and you put in dubbed the dub,
or if you go to YouTube and put in dub
app his interviews. It's been on Fox Business. I've had
to developers there. I think he went down my tee
to kid or he dropped out my guy and he
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developed it.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
All the smart ones drop out.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah wow. So but yes, it's great and uh yeah,
I'm way up, you know, I just and I'm not
a guy. I'm not great online. I don't do the
day trading stuff. I have customers that the younger guys
come in they show me and I but when I
saw this, I says, oh, so I put in like
a few grand to see what happens. Started taking off.
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So I put a little more in, and uh it's
doing great, and uh yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, you know, Bill, maybe maybe people tonight will be
uh be following that tomorrow. Good good for you.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah. But and if you go on and you and
you when you look at it before, because she's one
of the top ones. You can see it tells you,
like what it did for today, and then it tells
you what it's done for the year, and then it
tells you for the inception of her investing period. It's like,
you know, one hundred and set to percent or whatever
for since inception and stuff. Yeah, it tells you. It
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breaks it all down. In fact, she's way better than
Warren Buffett because I looked at him and even Trump
isn't I mean his his isn't there good either.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well on website or whatever. Is that that's that's down
as well? I mean that that was up, that was
up around forty or something. I never invested in that,
but I think it's down down into the teens. So
I whatever market did have a good dad though, So
we'll have to see.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, And I.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Don't know what that is based on, by the way,
I assume it's based on the fact that there's some
hope that the shutdown is over. But we'll see, we
will see. Bill appreciate your calls always. That's a great
stock tip, I guess, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's great. Anyone that want to look it up,
Dub just go to your your phone and stuff and
hopefully somebody will call him laters And yeh, I checked
that out. That guy he knows, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
And yeah, you never know. I mean, you might become
the next Warren Buffett when you think about it, you know,
wouldn't that be solid?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You know, you gonna you're gonna follow these guys in Congress.
They all sat off hundred and seventy five. Then after
forty years like Pelosi.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You know, well, no one did as well as Pelosi. Okay,
first of all, you know they they talk about the
Oracle of Omaha. In Warren Buffett, you could be sort
of the new Oracle of Delphi from Danvers when you
think about it. Trying to be a literature there. Thanks, Bill,
talk to you soon, yeah, okay, yeah, if any of
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you have done that with Bill had five, feel free. Okay.
I would like to talk about the shutdown, but if
you have some other subject that is on your mind,
feel free to join the conversation. My question is, and
I now, and I'm my friends in Congress is going
to be upset at me when I say this, But
maybe it's time to put a piece of legislation, you know,
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in Congress that says that the next time there's a
government shutdown, members of Congress don't get paid until the
shutdown is over. Get their money, you know, their money retroactively.
I'm not saying they should be denied their money, but
let them be uncomfortable for a few weeks. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty, six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.
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Looking always for different perspectives, simple as that here on
nights Side. If you're a traditional caller, feel free. If
you're someone who's never called the show before, this would
be a great night to get going. I do have
some open lines six one, seven, two, five, four, ten
thirty and one line at six one, seven, nine, three,
one ten thirty. Should Congress have been paid during the shutdown?
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In retrospect, I think no. I probably would have said yeah,
five or six weeks ago, but I think now, in
order to avoid this from happening again and again and again,
we got to do something. We'll be back on night
Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
All right, let's keep rolling here. Bones are available six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Next up is Maureene in Winchester. Hey, Maureen, thanks for
checking in. How are you tonight?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Great?
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Dan, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
How are you well? I'm a little lonely right at
the moment for some reason. Uh, this is not a
subject a lot of people seem to want to talk about,
which always bugs me to be us. But thank you
for calling. Marie.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Well, I just happen to be driving back from Cambridge
and trying to dodge those bicycles that are jap.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yes, yes, it's a it's a challenging course in Cambridge.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
Battle Braddle Street has become Battle Street.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Just lose the ard, that's all you have to do.
Braddle becomes Battle. I like that. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
So I wanted to chime in on the comment you
were saying about when we're in the shutdown that the
Congress people should not receive pay or benefits.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, they're not working, so.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Yeah, I agree. Well, I agree with it. And there's
a website it's called change dot org c H A
n G E dot O RG.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah I am familiar with that website. But you go
ahead and explain it.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Sure, it's when people have an initiative they want to support,
they can put it online and start a petition and
get people to sign and donate and share money or
share you know, their money, but also share the message
and their social media. And so I actually did sign
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a petition recently. It's called the longest shutdown in history looming.
Oh and yeah, exactly what you were talking about. So
I wanted to do a PSA to let people know
it's out there if they want to sign it. Joyce
Jay from ls, Missouri wrote on November third, twenty twenty five,
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as we near the longest shut down in history, I
wanted to put a few of my personal thoughts out there,
and that we have elected officials that haven't met the
deadline on budgets since nineteen ninety seven and they face
zero consequences for it. We are late paying a utility bill,
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taxes licensing our cars, We are fined regardless of our
political affiliations. There's zero penalties when electric elected officials can't
behave like adults instead of entitled toddlers. There are three hundred,
four hundred thirty five individuals we elected to Congress and
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one hundred members we elected to the Senate, and five
hundred and thirty five individuals that we have allowed to
live privileged lives to represent us and are in charge
of the annual budget, who are not representing the people
that elected them, but their corporations and lobbyists, and fail
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year after year to do the job. So Congress controls
the purse strings, not Trump. And she says there are
important individuals who feel their special interests and more important
than your bills. They aren't going to pay your late fees,
and they don't care about if you put food on
the table either, So it goes on. But I wanted
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to let you folks know that it's out there if
you want to.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Sign that I'm looking at.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Actually I was able while you were explaining it so
effectively I was able to find it here. The petition
starter is Joyce j just the initial and there's one
hundred and fifty two thousand signatures, and it would basically say,
we propose a straightforward solution, strip all salary and benefits
from members of Congress for the duration of any government shutdown.
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That's pretty clear. Reduce these salaries by two percent for
each day the government remains shut down and sure that
this two thousand, that this two percent daily reduction is permanent,
meaning it cannot be recovered through a future salary increases
of judgments. That's really a good idea because I mean, uh,
it's one thing to say, as I was saying, you,
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you you basically cut them off, and then you when
the when the government goes back to work, you give
them their money. But just what she would be saying
is two percent for each day. There wouldn't be very
long shutdowns if they were if they were looking at
a permanent two percent reduction, and then no member may
leave Washington, d C. Until a budget is passed, and
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all members in office who fail to come to an
agreement and a budget and cause a government shutdown become
immediately ineligible for re election. I don't know that that
it would be constitutional, but.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Yeah, that was I don't quite agree with. But overall,
like ninety th percentage that I agree with.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, they can go there. It's pretty easy to find
and you you directed us to it. And as they say,
this is hold Congress accountable no pay of benefits during
government shutdowns. And she's got one hundred and fifty two
two hundred and two signatures right now. So I would
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suspect that probably there's a lot of people running for
Congress across the country who would love to get that
list of signatures, because that would rely a lot of
fuel for caampaid.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
I love it, and they give you an update. It
says one hundred and forty seven people signed today, and
I think it goes all over. You know, it's on
the internet, so anybody in any of the states can
find it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh yeah, I found that. I found it very easily.
So no, I'm serious, and I'm not the I'm not
the well, I'm pretty good on computers. I have to
stop diminishing my ability on computers. But yeah, I found
this real easily. Change dot org slash hold Congress accountable.
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That's all you need to put in change dot org
and then hold hyphen Congress hyphen accountable and you can
sign the petition and you can follow it on your
on your computer. Thank you, Maureen. That was great. I
really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
So yeah, So some of my family members now work
for the government, okay, and one was furloughed and he's
been working and so that the government will make some
very important deadlines he's a litigator for a US government
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on intellectual property. Ye, the bad things going on there
with security, things like that. And my sister is a
computer scientist, and so one of her business trips was
canceled to Boston. Everybody had to stay local. And I
know some people who rely on their snap benefits, some
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people that had some trips planned for family reasons. It's
also the ripple effect on the businesses that rely on
airplane travelers, that rely on people coming into their coffee
shops or their lunch delis.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
You know, for.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
You're really great in terms of all of the impact
that the secondary and the tertiary impact that all of
this had, and a lot of those, you know, in
terms of the small shops, the cups of coffee that
people didn't buy, those are never going to be sold.
You're never going to catch up on those. You can
catch up, I guess. And part of this is that
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the furlough workers will will be paid and the workers
who are fired will be rehired.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
So yeah, that's what. Yeah, So they some of them
have to go in and get some work done, but
at least they will get paid. But the morale of people,
and some people were even saying that they might cancel
their Thanksgiving plans because they don't feel safe. They're not
sure if they feel safe flying on playing and the
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ladies point about the tourists. That's really a shame because
Boston does get a lot of its income from the
tourism market.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Oh yeah, again, these these are as, I said, secondary
and tertiary ripple effects, as you said, and let's you know,
let's keep this conversation going because when the people are
angry now, they should stay angry, and they should hold
some of these folks accountable.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Maureen.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
I loved your.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
What I don't understand is like, how did some of
these people become so wealthy like Pelosi? And I'm going
to check out that duds the dub.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah that was pretty good. Yeah. Well, the stats I
saw the other day was that she's now worth.
Speaker 10 (21:16):
About one hundred and thirty million dollars and that she
started off in nineteen eighty seven. She and her husband
had a net worth of Again I don't know precisely
how accurate these these numbers are, but had about seven
hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which it was a good
amount of money. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But you don't grow that it was, you know, you
don't grow it at that rate over that period of time. Yeah,
it's been thirty years, but who or forty years when
you think about it, well, I don't know what. Yeah,
would it be forty years? Yeah, twenty thirty Yeah, well
close to forty years. But still that's an incredible As
a speaker of the house, you have access Tip O'Neil
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never increased his value, his net worth value. He was
speaker for ten years and there was no no hint
that he had done you know, anything of that of
that nature. Maureen, I loved your call. Please call more often. Okay,
you this was a really informative call. I thank you
so much. Okay, thanks Jan And watch out of those
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bikes on Battle Street. Okay, thanks.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
We have a great name.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I got to take a break. I'd love to get
some reaction to some of these comments, though they've had
two really good calls. Six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I hope you folks are not losing interest in what
we talk about here on Nightside, because these are critical
issues and if you don't think the issue of the
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federal debt thirty seven to thirty eight trillion dollars is critical.
This is what you're going to leave to your kids
and grandkids. That's number one and number two. If you
don't think makes the difference who's running the government. What's
happened the last well, the last six weeks, to air travelers, uh,
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to the people who rely on the government for some help.
It could be you or me. I'm not talking about
the people who were were engaging in fraud. No. I
wanted I wanted the money to be taken from those people.
But we're gonna have some debates, and I think it's important. Again,
don't get lost in the Patriots or the Red Sox
or the Bruins. Enjoy that stuff, but realize this is
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what's important. Six one seven two four thirty six one
seven n I'll be right back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
It's Night Side with Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Okay, let's keep you only here, going to go to
CG in Cambridge. CG, you were next door Nightside.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Welcome, Welcome, thank you. I uh dislike you. Agree with
the woman that was on the last call. She was
really good, she was excellent, probably eighty center of what
she said, I got a couple of twists that I
think would work. Sure that when they have this, well
they have the continuing resolution, Yep, it should be automatic
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automatic continuing resolution, no vote on it. It's ridiculous that
was put in there to keep the government open. And
why can't they follow their own laws?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, that's a legitimate question. Again, I just think that
that either you if you're able to pass that, that's great,
or the problem is that, you know, Congress has become
so unwieldy. Look, I keep exciting this number, and I
know you understand it, but we're we're in debt. We
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owe thirty seven.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
To threety eight trillion.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Dollars that death. That debt is going to have to
be paid at some point.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Well, I retired eighteen years ago from one job. Good
for you, and I retired eight years ago and money
is getting very tight. Now. Sure I have pension, social Security,
but I'm really tight on money, and I'm looking for
other avenues to get money.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
How old are you? If I could ask CJ, I'm
eighty one. Well you sound like you're about thirty one.
You have fifty one?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Oh, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Young sounding voice. Well, what happens is with all of
the pensions. Look, the reality is you get locked in
at a at a pension or or at a Social
Security payment and the cost of everything goes up. It's
gone up a lot in the last few years. So yeah,
money does get tight. And the older you get, the
less active you're you're going to be, and you want
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to live out whatever time you have in some relative comfort.
So I'm I wish I had a solution for you.
You know. So Security gives you a colon increase every year.
I think the latest colon increase was something like two
point nine percent. That's not a lot of money, you know,
I mean, yeah, but there's other things. If if you
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own your own home, uh, you your real estate tax
are going up. I found out today that there's ae
and we're going to talk about this tomorrow night. Did
you know there's a piece of legislation up on Beacon
Hill which, if passed, would give cities and towns the
choice of increasing Do you have an Do you have
a car? Do you drive?
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (26:40):
I do?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Okay, Well, I don't know what you pay for your
excise tax, because obviously the newer your car is, the
more you pay. If you buy a new car, you
get whacked the first few years pretty good on the
excise tax. But this piece of legislation would increase give
towns the right to increase taxes by three times. So
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it was if you're picked five hundred dollars in an
excise tax on a car, which wouldn't be a big
car or expensive car, they could triple that.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
You know, that's ridiculous, ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well, we're going to talk about that tomorrow at nine o'clock.
That's my intention.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So at least I'll be calling to them. And that's
almost like you because.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Well what I try to tell people on that is
get to your state repids just say you vote for
something like this, pal, that's a poison pill. Never never
going to vote for you again. That's the only thing
these state reps will understand.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, well I think I have one of the things
that they could have. These guys are dot going to work,
they're not getting their pay, but they do get it retroactive.
I don't think when they changed Social Security back about
thirty years ago, it went retroactive. The bill went retroactive
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to cut people out of Social Security and went retroactive
by a year they think what happens with the Congress,
we have to get them forced into working. If they're
not working, they're not getting paid. And then they're a little.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Different with Social Security in the sense what they said
was correct me if I'm wrong, is that you can
maximize your retirement aims. They moved it up from whatever
was to sixty eight to sixty nine when people are
living longer. So, I don't know if that impacted you.
I hope it.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Didn't, but it did not paid. I've paid Social Security now.
I think for like forty eight years happened.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I will bet you at this point, Okay, when did
you start taking your SOI scurity benefits?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
When I was sixty seven?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Okay, so that's fourteen years ago, you told me, right, Okay,
I would guarant I think that the break even point
is about twelve years. If if whatever you put in,
I'll bet you if you checked out what you put
in versus what you've taken out, you're ahead of the game.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Oh, I'm ahead of the game even on my attentions.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Right and what? And now the problem is that somebody
who's who is so security, who works until say seventy
and they die when they're seventy and a half that person.
You know, it's it's figured out so that, you know,
some people will the wins, the people who what's so
scuredy is what the people who live longer will in
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total get more money and allow them to continue to live,
you know, decently while they're alive. And a lot of
that is calculated that not everybody's going to live to
lady five. Some people are going to die at sixty
seven and never never get a penny. Oh.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I looked at my family health and my grandparents on
the Irish side lived till the late eighties and on
the Italian side they lived into the mid nineties.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You got some gutines there, good jeans, it was the
good food is the Mediterranean diet right in the glass
of wine.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Oh no, I have I eat every diet.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
All right, CJ CJ CG. I should say thank you
so much for calling in. I appreciate you taking the
time tonight. Have a great one.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Be thank you also, bye right good night.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Let me get real quickly in here. I got Tim
in Woolburn. Tim, I want to get you in before
the break and give some other folks a chance to
join us after the break, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Tim any tomorroways, remembering today. World War one, that's what
I call it. World War two, it's veterans today. Anyhow,
I'm standing at the front of my total Toyota and
this is what I have on the on the on
the hoods right it says the United States of America
seventeen seventy six two twenty six Wounded Wire Project. I'm
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one of them. I'm one of the twenty nine bucks.
A month, I got a letter from General Piat was
in charge, retired anyhow, uh and he said, man, you
are quite the guy, but I don't care about that.
A little paragraph right before he said that, I said this,
I'm Michael Dawson. I lost my arm my leg in Afghanistan.
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Thank you, Timmy for giving me a chance of knife.
Isn't that something.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
That's that means a lot, That means a lot. I think.
I think Wounded Warrior has a very good reputation with
Charity Navigator and all of that.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
But everyone on move and seized this on the hood.
Everyone really.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
The whole moving crops.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Everyone comes by and just stops, gives me the thumbs up. Anyhow,
I have in front of me right our Pitcher at
Anoi Restaurant. All right, I have on my nice side
T shirt. I had the only nice side mug. Anyhow
uh what I picture you and me? You got me
right beside me, and I broke my mug. Well your
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birthday present? Last time I told you it was my birthday.
I'd love another mug if you could do it. I
have on my T shirt and my mug's broken.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Uh. Let me keep that in mind. Okay, so we'll
uh maybe we'll uh we'll be able to do something
for you there. I'll put it on my two do list. Okay,
get a right.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I'm gonna leave you with this. God bless American, God
bless the veteran, and God bless all over and always
no uh, I mean all the Rays and especially Sharlie Ray.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Thank you very much, thanks to a.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Fine you have a fine man. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Back at you. Thanks Tim, Talk to you soon, good night.
Six one seven, two, five, four thirty. I got lines there,
Susan and Salem. You stay right there, Susan. We're gonna
talk to you in a moment.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I got lines at six one, seven, two, four, ten
thirty and lines at six one seven nine thirty. Come on, folks,
this is important stuff. Wake up, wake up America. As
simple as that. We'll be back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
It's night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Back to the phones we go, and I do have
a couple of lines if you want to get last
word in Susan and Salem. Hi, Susan, welcome back. How
are you tonight?
Speaker 6 (33:21):
I'm great, thank you. But that couple of callers ago,
that woman, I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, well it is Maureen from Winchester. Yeah, perfect, perfect idea.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
It is perfect.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
It's changed dot org. But the other thing is we
as individuals have to be smarter, and all too often
you go and you just vote for whoever's in the ballot,
who's an incumbent. I always refuse to vote. I voted
last Tuesday, and there were some people on the ballot,
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you know, city council and school committee. And got to
give them credit for putting their names out there. But
if they guaranteed election or guaranteed reelection, if I really
don't know them, I just blank the ballot.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
I would do that too myself, right, And we do
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
We continue to re elect people, re elect people re
elect people, and there are some people who deserve re election.
There are members of Congress who I've felt you hate
to see them leave. I hated to see Tip O'Neill
leave when he was a speaker. But you know, everybody,
everybody at some point has to has to step off
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the stage. Well was that Shakespeare said? All the world's
a stage, and all of us play a role, and
then it's time to leave.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
But they're the one saying that would prevent Trump from
causing such chaos a second time. Well, it's probably more
than a second time. But and that would be impeachment.
Just get him out of there.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Well, how are you going to do that at this point?
I mean, the American public voted a year ago to
put him back to your office warts and all. What
what I mean? They tried to impeach him twice. Bill,
They tried to impeach Bill Clinton. Uh, it's the will
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of the American people. May not be your cup of tea,
may not be my cup of tea, but you know
what would you impeach him on?
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Well, there's probably a list of things.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
But in order to we found out with Bill Clinton,
we found out with Donald Trump that you just can't
impeach somebody for the sake of impeaching him. I mean,
you vote, you know, I have to respect your vote.
You have to respect my vote, or else democracy doesn't
work well.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
The fact that he refuses to turn over his tax information.
I thought that was something that was required, but apparently
it is.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
It's not yea.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
A red flag.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
There's a million red flee. He has more red flags
than a NASCAR race. But what I'm trying to get at, Susan,
and you're a rational person, Okay, he ran. The Democrats
messed up. Uh, they should have sat with Joe Biden
a year ago or more than a year ago, you know,
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a year before the election, said you know, we're going
to move past you. Please don't take this personally, but whatever,
we think you've lost a lot off the fastball. But
the Democrats, Oh, he's great, everything's fine. And then we
saw that debate where oh yeah, he couldn't put a
sentence together. Now, at some point you got to say
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that the Democrats, hey, yeah, he beat Donald Trump in
twenty twenty. You believe it. I believe it. Some people didn't,
but that's the reality. They have to deal with reality.
And we got to deal with reality. In my opinion, Yeah,
that's true. He's there, and you know, I'm just my
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view is what I'm going to do is when he
does something good, I'm going to give him credit for it.
And he does something dumb, I'm going to call him
on it. It's as simple as that. Well we should, yeah,
no question, no question. And that's my free speech rights,
and that's your free speech rights. But we also have
to respect the majority of Americans. And there were seven
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battleground states. He won them all. Bill. I mean, I
guess what three years, well whatever, three years and three
months from now, he will be a former president, and
I would hope that we can at some point get
to get back together as a country where we can
start to talk. You know, you and I may disagree
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on a bunch of things, but we always have pretty
pretty positive conversations. That's what I'm trying to do here
on Night Side.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Yeah, and you're doing a good.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Job, sometimes with more success than others, though, Susan. Depending
about the callers, Hey, Susan, thanks so much. We'll talk
to call more often.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Okay, Thank you, Dan, Bye bye, talk to you, Sue.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Good I, John and Boston. John, you may wrap it
up for us.
Speaker 9 (38:23):
Go ahead, John, Thanks Dan, I just wanted to say
that Nancy Pooles he didn't turn over her tax returns.
I needed to Chuck Schumer. No American has to do it.
That's why they have They have the I R S
if there's a problems.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
But but Susan, Susan has a right, and you and
I have a right if some candidate who we don't
like chooses not to turn over the tax returns, that
can be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back,
and you're going to vote for the other person.
Speaker 9 (38:54):
Oh yeah, I agree, But they did leave John Trump's returns.
But just I just wanted to leave this fact your listens, den.
Fifty percent of Congress, fifty percent a millionaires. Only one
percent of the public is millionaires. And they're making decisions.
They made decisions to shut down the government to withhold
payment to people so that one point five trillion dollars
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can go to people for healthcare who aren't our citizens.
This is what these people are doing.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Well, here's what we gotta do. John, let me just
jump in for one second. I'm not going to catch
you off. Here's what we gotta do. Let's let that
debate go forward. Let's get the statistics. Let's find out
how many people are, you know, on Medicare or whatever.
We have a policy in this country which I think
was passed under the Reagan administration that you probably know
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is that anybody can go to an emergency room and
present themselves and say, hey, I'm here, I'm a human
being and I need help.
Speaker 9 (39:54):
Now. But they open the borders in and let millions
how much?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Look did I you know that I criticize that. I'm
not in favor of that. We got to somehow say,
we got to come up with some solution which is
reasonable and rational and the majority of the American people
can uh. And I might agree with you, by the way,
that if you're here illegally that we don't you know,
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if you came here for for for government healthcare, don't
hang around. As simple as that, John, We may open
up this topic. I know we'll open it up in
the next couple of weeks for certain, And I want
you to be listening. I want and I want you
to take the lead as a caller.
Speaker 9 (40:40):
Okay, Dad, I just don't think that they shoudn't be
able to tap into the social security that you all listening.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I got you, John. I'm now flat out of time,
so I got to let you go, but let's continue
this conversation. Thanks John, rob Brooks. A great job, Marita,
A great job is always. I want to thank the
Deans of Admission, Bill Fitzsimmons from Harvard and Grant Concelin
from BC. I want to thank all of you, particularly
the callers. Done for the night. I am going to
do a nightside postgame real quickly. All dogs, all cats,
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all pets go to heaven. That's Mi Palt Charlie Rays,
who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's why your
pets are who passed. They love you, you love them.
I do believe you'll see them begin to see again
to more. On Tuesday, state warm everybody, he's going to
get cold.
It's time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, So we are talking about the end of
the shutdown. Well, it's not completely over yet, but a
big step was taken today when the Republicans fifty two
of the fifty three Republicans and eight Democrats provided enough
votes a total of sixty to break the filibuster. Then
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now it goes to the House and the House will
vote on it on Wednesday, and if the House agrees
with the Senate, which most people are hoping they will do,
it goes to the President's desk and there'll be appropriations
allowed and the crisis will pass. There will still be
plenty of debate, particularly on funding subsidies for Obamacare, and
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the Democrats will be able to make their case, the
Republicans will make their case, and I would hope that
there would be some sort of a compromise of the middle.
I don't want to see people lose their subsidies and
lose their medical health insurance. And I hope that the
Republicans are wanted enough to say, hey, look, let's look
at this now again. These subsidies which will be debated,
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we will talk about in the next week or so,
but I'm going to wait until everybody is up to
speed on them. Essentially, these were extended during COVID and
there was the sunset provisions put on. What's a sunset provision?
A sunset provision means that they were to expire at
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a certain point in time. I believe the point in
time was last September thirtieth. Now the question is that
theyre going to be renewed and at what level will
they be renewed. But that's the sort of debate that
Congress should be having, and hopefully, hopefully with the House
of Representatives being really very close, the Democrats are within
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five or six foot votes or even less now that
there's another member being sworn in from New Mexico. Bottom
line is the reform that I think comes out of
this is I'm tired of the shutdowns. I'm tired of
the shutdowns on both sides. I am not somebody who
wants to see the nuclear option exercise, whereby they would
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say we will get rid of the filibuster, and there's
a strict majority vote in the Senate. I think that
the sixty number of senators to break a filibuster is important.
But I want to hear from you. You know what
I think? Okay, I want to know what you think,
whatever your point of view, because at this point, the
one thing I think we can agree upon is that
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future shutdowns Congress, Senate, and House, their paychecks are held up.
They'll eventually get them, but however long they want to
stay out, no paychecks, simple as that. Small reform one seven,
two ten thirty. Only lines that are open right now,
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give us a call. We have two lines at six
one seven two four ten thirty. Let me go to
Bill and Danvers. I got Nick and Maureen coming up,
and I got room for you. Bill and Danvers, you
were next one night, Sager right ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yes, Hey, I'm I'm almost sure. Well I thought about
it now, I'm really not really in shock. So team
jeffries he wants to basically defeat it. So I guess
he's happy going into Thanksgiving. I mean basically, the airport's
will be down, the almost no flights. Yeah, it'll be paralyzed.
And then you know, people like I called before, I
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do know a few guys and they need to snap. Okay, yeah,
and and and and the work is I mean, you
know we're gonna you know, take care of things. I mean,
you know, people are gonna look around and say, well,
you know, do I want to take that job of
the government, because if I'm not gonna get paid like
this for a few months or whatever's gonna go on,
you know, maybe they you know, we'd lose some talent,
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you know.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I mean, well, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So much worried about that, particularly if the fur load
workers are compensated for the time they didn't work, they
will have had a basically a six week paid vacation,
and people who have been fired get their jobs back.
I think that again, there was just too much politics
involved here, and there's probably a lot of blame to
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go around on both sides. And that's why I'm suggesting
that going forward, the way to avoid shutdowns is to say,
when there's a shutdown, no one need because the shutdowns
are happening, the court continues with their case load. The
president is always the president. The president is not going
to say I'm going to sit in my office and
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do nothing. That's what Congress did now for six weeks.
Why should they get paid?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And there is King Jefferies has in an opponent basically
like an AOC, so he's probably concerning because you see
Schumer going down the drain. Uh, he's going to get
taken out and his day is a number.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I don't think. I think Schumer is ready to follow
the Pelosi a method. And you know, she's made enough
money in the stock market now she can she can
retire comfortably.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Did you see, Actually, Dan, I have, Yeah, I know,
but I have to confess. There's an app DUB. I
don't know if you've heard of it, so, uh, you
can basically you copy other portfolios because that's public information. Sure,
I forget when they did it, so if you look
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it up, it's called DUB. So about eight nine months ago.
You know, I said, geez, that's great. And I always
thought about copying Pelosi because she averages thirty year or whatever,
and she's one of the most popular on there. So
I'm up like fifty five. I mean, this is great.
You know, I bought a new cons So he says, well,
Pelosi hangs around four five years for a new car.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You got to find if her investments are no longer
public record. I read something over the weekend that was
extraordinary that she's now worth one hundred and thirty million dollars.
She and her husband, and then when she went to Congress,
oh in nineteen eighty seven, she had less than a
million dollars.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So I'm looking at other members of Congress to see
who's close so I can copy them. You know, I'm
researching it now, you know. But you know what, but
when you watch it and there's a day of markets down,
but like there's something announced with a healthcare or a
regulation or you know, something like the government.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well Bill Lemias goes, how, here's my question. How quickly
on this. Let's say that you're following Pelosi and you're
going to say, okay, I'm going to follow her trades.
She trades at at noontime and decides to buy, you
know whatever, How soon do you see I want to.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Say, uh, it's uh they rebalanced it the other day
because they sent me a notice dubbed they manage it.
I want to say, it's every thirty days. So there
is a little bit of a of a of a
of a drag. But you're close, you know what I mean.
And I'm doing way better than I could ever do
or even my guy. I have a regular guy for
my investments. My ira, I defroll ones.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
You know, we're not bad.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
They've been doing good.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Did you find this website? Just found it. It's called
dubbed du.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
No no, no, yeah yeah. If you if you go
to the you can go on I think online. But
if you go to the app store, if you have
the iPhone or whatever, and you put in dubbed the dub,
or if you go to YouTube and put in dub
app his interviews. It's been on Fox Business. I've had
to developers there. I think he went down my tee
to kid or he dropped out my guy and he
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developed it.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
All the smart ones drop out.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah wow. So but yes, it's great and uh yeah,
I'm way up, you know, I just and I'm not
a guy. I'm not great online. I don't do the
day trading stuff. I have customers that the younger guys
come in they show me and I but when I
saw this, I says, oh, so I put in like
a few grand to see what happens. Started taking off.
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So I put a little more in, and uh it's
doing great, and uh yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, you know, Bill, maybe maybe people tonight will be
uh be following that tomorrow. Good good for you.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah. But and if you go on and you and
you when you look at it before, because she's one
of the top ones. You can see it tells you,
like what it did for today, and then it tells
you what it's done for the year, and then it
tells you for the inception of her investing period. It's like,
you know, one hundred and set to percent or whatever
for since inception and stuff. Yeah, it tells you. It
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breaks it all down. In fact, she's way better than
Warren Buffett because I looked at him and even Trump
isn't I mean his his isn't there good either.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well on website or whatever. Is that that's that's down
as well? I mean that that was up, that was
up around forty or something. I never invested in that,
but I think it's down down into the teens. So
I whatever market did have a good dad though, So
we'll have to see.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, And I.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Don't know what that is based on, by the way,
I assume it's based on the fact that there's some
hope that the shutdown is over. But we'll see, we
will see. Bill appreciate your calls always. That's a great
stock tip, I guess, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's great. Anyone that want to look it up,
Dub just go to your your phone and stuff and
hopefully somebody will call him laters And yeh, I checked
that out. That guy he knows, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
And yeah, you never know. I mean, you might become
the next Warren Buffett when you think about it, you know,
wouldn't that be solid?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You know, you gonna you're gonna follow these guys in Congress.
They all sat off hundred and seventy five. Then after
forty years like Pelosi.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You know, well, no one did as well as Pelosi. Okay,
first of all, you know they they talk about the
Oracle of Omaha. In Warren Buffett, you could be sort
of the new Oracle of Delphi from Danvers when you
think about it. Trying to be a literature there. Thanks, Bill,
talk to you soon, yeah, okay, yeah, if any of
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you have done that with Bill had five, feel free. Okay.
I would like to talk about the shutdown, but if
you have some other subject that is on your mind,
feel free to join the conversation. My question is, and
I now, and I'm my friends in Congress is going
to be upset at me when I say this, But
maybe it's time to put a piece of legislation, you know,
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in Congress that says that the next time there's a
government shutdown, members of Congress don't get paid until the
shutdown is over. Get their money, you know, their money retroactively.
I'm not saying they should be denied their money, but
let them be uncomfortable for a few weeks. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty, six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.
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Looking always for different perspectives, simple as that here on
nights Side. If you're a traditional caller, feel free. If
you're someone who's never called the show before, this would
be a great night to get going. I do have
some open lines six one, seven, two, five, four, ten
thirty and one line at six one, seven, nine, three,
one ten thirty. Should Congress have been paid during the shutdown?
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In retrospect, I think no. I probably would have said yeah,
five or six weeks ago, but I think now, in
order to avoid this from happening again and again and again,
we got to do something. We'll be back on night
Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
All right, let's keep rolling here. Bones are available six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Next up is Maureene in Winchester. Hey, Maureen, thanks for
checking in. How are you tonight?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Great?
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Dan, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
How are you well? I'm a little lonely right at
the moment for some reason. Uh, this is not a
subject a lot of people seem to want to talk about,
which always bugs me to be us. But thank you
for calling. Marie.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Well, I just happen to be driving back from Cambridge
and trying to dodge those bicycles that are jap.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yes, yes, it's a it's a challenging course in Cambridge.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
Battle Braddle Street has become Battle Street.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Just lose the ard, that's all you have to do.
Braddle becomes Battle. I like that. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
So I wanted to chime in on the comment you
were saying about when we're in the shutdown that the
Congress people should not receive pay or benefits.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, they're not working, so.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Yeah, I agree. Well, I agree with it. And there's
a website it's called change dot org c H A
n G E dot O RG.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah I am familiar with that website. But you go
ahead and explain it.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Sure, it's when people have an initiative they want to support,
they can put it online and start a petition and
get people to sign and donate and share money or
share you know, their money, but also share the message
and their social media. And so I actually did sign
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a petition recently. It's called the longest shutdown in history looming.
Oh and yeah, exactly what you were talking about. So
I wanted to do a PSA to let people know
it's out there if they want to sign it. Joyce
Jay from ls, Missouri wrote on November third, twenty twenty five,
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as we near the longest shut down in history, I
wanted to put a few of my personal thoughts out there,
and that we have elected officials that haven't met the
deadline on budgets since nineteen ninety seven and they face
zero consequences for it. We are late paying a utility bill,
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taxes licensing our cars, We are fined regardless of our
political affiliations. There's zero penalties when electric elected officials can't
behave like adults instead of entitled toddlers. There are three hundred,
four hundred thirty five individuals we elected to Congress and
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one hundred members we elected to the Senate, and five
hundred and thirty five individuals that we have allowed to
live privileged lives to represent us and are in charge
of the annual budget, who are not representing the people
that elected them, but their corporations and lobbyists, and fail
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year after year to do the job. So Congress controls
the purse strings, not Trump. And she says there are
important individuals who feel their special interests and more important
than your bills. They aren't going to pay your late fees,
and they don't care about if you put food on
the table either, So it goes on. But I wanted
(15:36):
to let you folks know that it's out there if
you want to.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Sign that I'm looking at.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Actually I was able while you were explaining it so
effectively I was able to find it here. The petition
starter is Joyce j just the initial and there's one
hundred and fifty two thousand signatures, and it would basically say,
we propose a straightforward solution, strip all salary and benefits
from members of Congress for the duration of any government shutdown.
(16:01):
That's pretty clear. Reduce these salaries by two percent for
each day the government remains shut down and sure that
this two thousand, that this two percent daily reduction is permanent,
meaning it cannot be recovered through a future salary increases
of judgments. That's really a good idea because I mean, uh,
it's one thing to say, as I was saying, you,
(16:23):
you you basically cut them off, and then you when
the when the government goes back to work, you give
them their money. But just what she would be saying
is two percent for each day. There wouldn't be very
long shutdowns if they were if they were looking at
a permanent two percent reduction, and then no member may
leave Washington, d C. Until a budget is passed, and
(16:45):
all members in office who fail to come to an
agreement and a budget and cause a government shutdown become
immediately ineligible for re election. I don't know that that
it would be constitutional, but.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Yeah, that was I don't quite agree with. But overall,
like ninety th percentage that I agree with.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, they can go there. It's pretty easy to find
and you you directed us to it. And as they say,
this is hold Congress accountable no pay of benefits during
government shutdowns. And she's got one hundred and fifty two
two hundred and two signatures right now. So I would
(17:26):
suspect that probably there's a lot of people running for
Congress across the country who would love to get that
list of signatures, because that would rely a lot of
fuel for caampaid.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
I love it, and they give you an update. It
says one hundred and forty seven people signed today, and
I think it goes all over. You know, it's on
the internet, so anybody in any of the states can
find it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh yeah, I found that. I found it very easily.
So no, I'm serious, and I'm not the I'm not
the well, I'm pretty good on computers. I have to
stop diminishing my ability on computers. But yeah, I found
this real easily. Change dot org slash hold Congress accountable.
(18:21):
That's all you need to put in change dot org
and then hold hyphen Congress hyphen accountable and you can
sign the petition and you can follow it on your
on your computer. Thank you, Maureen. That was great. I
really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
So yeah, So some of my family members now work
for the government, okay, and one was furloughed and he's
been working and so that the government will make some
very important deadlines he's a litigator for a US government
(18:58):
on intellectual property. Ye, the bad things going on there
with security, things like that. And my sister is a
computer scientist, and so one of her business trips was
canceled to Boston. Everybody had to stay local. And I
know some people who rely on their snap benefits, some
(19:20):
people that had some trips planned for family reasons. It's
also the ripple effect on the businesses that rely on
airplane travelers, that rely on people coming into their coffee
shops or their lunch delis.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
You know, for.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
You're really great in terms of all of the impact
that the secondary and the tertiary impact that all of
this had, and a lot of those, you know, in
terms of the small shops, the cups of coffee that
people didn't buy, those are never going to be sold.
You're never going to catch up on those. You can
catch up, I guess. And part of this is that
(20:05):
the furlough workers will will be paid and the workers
who are fired will be rehired.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
So yeah, that's what. Yeah, So they some of them
have to go in and get some work done, but
at least they will get paid. But the morale of people,
and some people were even saying that they might cancel
their Thanksgiving plans because they don't feel safe. They're not
sure if they feel safe flying on playing and the
(20:33):
ladies point about the tourists. That's really a shame because
Boston does get a lot of its income from the
tourism market.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Oh yeah, again, these these are as, I said, secondary
and tertiary ripple effects, as you said, and let's you know,
let's keep this conversation going because when the people are
angry now, they should stay angry, and they should hold
some of these folks accountable.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Maureen.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
I loved your.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
What I don't understand is like, how did some of
these people become so wealthy like Pelosi? And I'm going
to check out that duds the dub.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah that was pretty good. Yeah. Well, the stats I
saw the other day was that she's now worth.
Speaker 10 (21:16):
About one hundred and thirty million dollars and that she
started off in nineteen eighty seven. She and her husband
had a net worth of Again I don't know precisely
how accurate these these numbers are, but had about seven
hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which it was a good
amount of money. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But you don't grow that it was, you know, you
don't grow it at that rate over that period of time. Yeah,
it's been thirty years, but who or forty years when
you think about it, well, I don't know what. Yeah,
would it be forty years? Yeah, twenty thirty Yeah, well
close to forty years. But still that's an incredible As
a speaker of the house, you have access Tip O'Neil
(21:57):
never increased his value, his net worth value. He was
speaker for ten years and there was no no hint
that he had done you know, anything of that of
that nature. Maureen, I loved your call. Please call more often. Okay,
you this was a really informative call. I thank you
so much. Okay, thanks Jan And watch out of those
(22:18):
bikes on Battle Street. Okay, thanks.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
We have a great name.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I got to take a break. I'd love to get
some reaction to some of these comments, though they've had
two really good calls. Six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I hope you folks are not losing interest in what
we talk about here on Nightside, because these are critical
issues and if you don't think the issue of the
(22:46):
federal debt thirty seven to thirty eight trillion dollars is critical.
This is what you're going to leave to your kids
and grandkids. That's number one and number two. If you
don't think makes the difference who's running the government. What's
happened the last well, the last six weeks, to air travelers, uh,
(23:07):
to the people who rely on the government for some help.
It could be you or me. I'm not talking about
the people who were were engaging in fraud. No. I
wanted I wanted the money to be taken from those people.
But we're gonna have some debates, and I think it's important. Again,
don't get lost in the Patriots or the Red Sox
or the Bruins. Enjoy that stuff, but realize this is
(23:29):
what's important. Six one seven two four thirty six one
seven n I'll be right back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
It's Night Side with Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Okay, let's keep you only here, going to go to
CG in Cambridge. CG, you were next door Nightside.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Welcome, Welcome, thank you. I uh dislike you. Agree with
the woman that was on the last call. She was
really good, she was excellent, probably eighty center of what
she said, I got a couple of twists that I
think would work. Sure that when they have this, well
they have the continuing resolution, Yep, it should be automatic
(24:13):
automatic continuing resolution, no vote on it. It's ridiculous that
was put in there to keep the government open. And
why can't they follow their own laws?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, that's a legitimate question. Again, I just think that
that either you if you're able to pass that, that's great,
or the problem is that, you know, Congress has become
so unwieldy. Look, I keep exciting this number, and I
know you understand it, but we're we're in debt. We
(24:47):
owe thirty seven.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
To threety eight trillion.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Dollars that death. That debt is going to have to
be paid at some point.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Well, I retired eighteen years ago from one job. Good
for you, and I retired eight years ago and money
is getting very tight. Now. Sure I have pension, social Security,
but I'm really tight on money, and I'm looking for
other avenues to get money.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
How old are you? If I could ask CJ, I'm
eighty one. Well you sound like you're about thirty one.
You have fifty one?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Oh, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Young sounding voice. Well, what happens is with all of
the pensions. Look, the reality is you get locked in
at a at a pension or or at a Social
Security payment and the cost of everything goes up. It's
gone up a lot in the last few years. So yeah,
money does get tight. And the older you get, the
less active you're you're going to be, and you want
(25:53):
to live out whatever time you have in some relative comfort.
So I'm I wish I had a solution for you.
You know. So Security gives you a colon increase every year.
I think the latest colon increase was something like two
point nine percent. That's not a lot of money, you know,
I mean, yeah, but there's other things. If if you
(26:18):
own your own home, uh, you your real estate tax
are going up. I found out today that there's ae
and we're going to talk about this tomorrow night. Did
you know there's a piece of legislation up on Beacon
Hill which, if passed, would give cities and towns the
choice of increasing Do you have an Do you have
a car? Do you drive?
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (26:40):
I do?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Okay, Well, I don't know what you pay for your
excise tax, because obviously the newer your car is, the
more you pay. If you buy a new car, you
get whacked the first few years pretty good on the
excise tax. But this piece of legislation would increase give
towns the right to increase taxes by three times. So
(27:04):
it was if you're picked five hundred dollars in an
excise tax on a car, which wouldn't be a big
car or expensive car, they could triple that.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
You know, that's ridiculous, ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well, we're going to talk about that tomorrow at nine o'clock.
That's my intention.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So at least I'll be calling to them. And that's
almost like you because.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Well what I try to tell people on that is
get to your state repids just say you vote for
something like this, pal, that's a poison pill. Never never
going to vote for you again. That's the only thing
these state reps will understand.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, well I think I have one of the things
that they could have. These guys are dot going to work,
they're not getting their pay, but they do get it retroactive.
I don't think when they changed Social Security back about
thirty years ago, it went retroactive. The bill went retroactive
(27:59):
to cut people out of Social Security and went retroactive
by a year they think what happens with the Congress,
we have to get them forced into working. If they're
not working, they're not getting paid. And then they're a little.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Different with Social Security in the sense what they said
was correct me if I'm wrong, is that you can
maximize your retirement aims. They moved it up from whatever
was to sixty eight to sixty nine when people are
living longer. So, I don't know if that impacted you.
I hope it.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Didn't, but it did not paid. I've paid Social Security now.
I think for like forty eight years happened.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I will bet you at this point, Okay, when did
you start taking your SOI scurity benefits?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
When I was sixty seven?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Okay, so that's fourteen years ago, you told me, right, Okay,
I would guarant I think that the break even point
is about twelve years. If if whatever you put in,
I'll bet you if you checked out what you put
in versus what you've taken out, you're ahead of the game.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Oh, I'm ahead of the game even on my attentions.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Right and what? And now the problem is that somebody
who's who is so security, who works until say seventy
and they die when they're seventy and a half that person.
You know, it's it's figured out so that, you know,
some people will the wins, the people who what's so
scuredy is what the people who live longer will in
(29:32):
total get more money and allow them to continue to live,
you know, decently while they're alive. And a lot of
that is calculated that not everybody's going to live to
lady five. Some people are going to die at sixty
seven and never never get a penny. Oh.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I looked at my family health and my grandparents on
the Irish side lived till the late eighties and on
the Italian side they lived into the mid nineties.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You got some gutines there, good jeans, it was the
good food is the Mediterranean diet right in the glass
of wine.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Oh no, I have I eat every diet.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
All right, CJ CJ CG. I should say thank you
so much for calling in. I appreciate you taking the
time tonight. Have a great one.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Be thank you also, bye right good night.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Let me get real quickly in here. I got Tim
in Woolburn. Tim, I want to get you in before
the break and give some other folks a chance to
join us after the break, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Tim any tomorroways, remembering today. World War one, that's what
I call it. World War two, it's veterans today. Anyhow,
I'm standing at the front of my total Toyota and
this is what I have on the on the on
the hoods right it says the United States of America
seventeen seventy six two twenty six Wounded Wire Project. I'm
(30:56):
one of them. I'm one of the twenty nine bucks.
A month, I got a letter from General Piat was
in charge, retired anyhow, uh and he said, man, you
are quite the guy, but I don't care about that.
A little paragraph right before he said that, I said this,
I'm Michael Dawson. I lost my arm my leg in Afghanistan.
(31:17):
Thank you, Timmy for giving me a chance of knife.
Isn't that something.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
That's that means a lot, That means a lot. I think.
I think Wounded Warrior has a very good reputation with
Charity Navigator and all of that.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
But everyone on move and seized this on the hood.
Everyone really.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
The whole moving crops.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Everyone comes by and just stops, gives me the thumbs up. Anyhow,
I have in front of me right our Pitcher at
Anoi Restaurant. All right, I have on my nice side
T shirt. I had the only nice side mug. Anyhow
uh what I picture you and me? You got me
right beside me, and I broke my mug. Well your
(32:07):
birthday present? Last time I told you it was my birthday.
I'd love another mug if you could do it. I
have on my T shirt and my mug's broken.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Uh. Let me keep that in mind. Okay, so we'll
uh maybe we'll uh we'll be able to do something
for you there. I'll put it on my two do list. Okay,
get a right.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I'm gonna leave you with this. God bless American, God
bless the veteran, and God bless all over and always
no uh, I mean all the Rays and especially Sharlie Ray.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Thank you very much, thanks to a.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Fine you have a fine man. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Back at you. Thanks Tim, Talk to you soon, good night.
Six one seven, two, five, four thirty. I got lines there,
Susan and Salem. You stay right there, Susan. We're gonna
talk to you in a moment.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I got lines at six one, seven, two, four, ten
thirty and lines at six one seven nine thirty. Come on, folks,
this is important stuff. Wake up, wake up America. As
simple as that. We'll be back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
It's night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Back to the phones we go, and I do have
a couple of lines if you want to get last
word in Susan and Salem. Hi, Susan, welcome back. How
are you tonight?
Speaker 6 (33:21):
I'm great, thank you. But that couple of callers ago,
that woman, I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, well it is Maureen from Winchester. Yeah, perfect, perfect idea.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
It is perfect.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
It's changed dot org. But the other thing is we
as individuals have to be smarter, and all too often
you go and you just vote for whoever's in the ballot,
who's an incumbent. I always refuse to vote. I voted
last Tuesday, and there were some people on the ballot,
(33:57):
you know, city council and school committee. And got to
give them credit for putting their names out there. But
if they guaranteed election or guaranteed reelection, if I really
don't know them, I just blank the ballot.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
I would do that too myself, right, And we do
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
We continue to re elect people, re elect people re
elect people, and there are some people who deserve re election.
There are members of Congress who I've felt you hate
to see them leave. I hated to see Tip O'Neill
leave when he was a speaker. But you know, everybody,
everybody at some point has to has to step off
(34:41):
the stage. Well was that Shakespeare said? All the world's
a stage, and all of us play a role, and
then it's time to leave.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
But they're the one saying that would prevent Trump from
causing such chaos a second time. Well, it's probably more
than a second time. But and that would be impeachment.
Just get him out of there.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Well, how are you going to do that at this point?
I mean, the American public voted a year ago to
put him back to your office warts and all. What
what I mean? They tried to impeach him twice. Bill,
They tried to impeach Bill Clinton. Uh, it's the will
(35:26):
of the American people. May not be your cup of tea,
may not be my cup of tea, but you know
what would you impeach him on?
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Well, there's probably a list of things.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
But in order to we found out with Bill Clinton,
we found out with Donald Trump that you just can't
impeach somebody for the sake of impeaching him. I mean,
you vote, you know, I have to respect your vote.
You have to respect my vote, or else democracy doesn't
work well.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
The fact that he refuses to turn over his tax information.
I thought that was something that was required, but apparently
it is.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
It's not yea.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
A red flag.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
There's a million red flee. He has more red flags
than a NASCAR race. But what I'm trying to get at, Susan,
and you're a rational person, Okay, he ran. The Democrats
messed up. Uh, they should have sat with Joe Biden
a year ago or more than a year ago, you know,
(36:35):
a year before the election, said you know, we're going
to move past you. Please don't take this personally, but whatever,
we think you've lost a lot off the fastball. But
the Democrats, Oh, he's great, everything's fine. And then we
saw that debate where oh yeah, he couldn't put a
sentence together. Now, at some point you got to say
(36:57):
that the Democrats, hey, yeah, he beat Donald Trump in
twenty twenty. You believe it. I believe it. Some people didn't,
but that's the reality. They have to deal with reality.
And we got to deal with reality. In my opinion, Yeah,
that's true. He's there, and you know, I'm just my
(37:18):
view is what I'm going to do is when he
does something good, I'm going to give him credit for it.
And he does something dumb, I'm going to call him
on it. It's as simple as that. Well we should, yeah,
no question, no question. And that's my free speech rights,
and that's your free speech rights. But we also have
to respect the majority of Americans. And there were seven
(37:39):
battleground states. He won them all. Bill. I mean, I
guess what three years, well whatever, three years and three
months from now, he will be a former president, and
I would hope that we can at some point get
to get back together as a country where we can
start to talk. You know, you and I may disagree
(38:00):
on a bunch of things, but we always have pretty
pretty positive conversations. That's what I'm trying to do here
on Night Side.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Yeah, and you're doing a good.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Job, sometimes with more success than others, though, Susan. Depending
about the callers, Hey, Susan, thanks so much. We'll talk
to call more often.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Okay, Thank you, Dan, Bye bye, talk to you, Sue.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Good I, John and Boston. John, you may wrap it
up for us.
Speaker 9 (38:23):
Go ahead, John, Thanks Dan, I just wanted to say
that Nancy Pooles he didn't turn over her tax returns.
I needed to Chuck Schumer. No American has to do it.
That's why they have They have the I R S
if there's a problems.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
But but Susan, Susan has a right, and you and
I have a right if some candidate who we don't
like chooses not to turn over the tax returns, that
can be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back,
and you're going to vote for the other person.
Speaker 9 (38:54):
Oh yeah, I agree, But they did leave John Trump's returns.
But just I just wanted to leave this fact your listens, den.
Fifty percent of Congress, fifty percent a millionaires. Only one
percent of the public is millionaires. And they're making decisions.
They made decisions to shut down the government to withhold
payment to people so that one point five trillion dollars
(39:18):
can go to people for healthcare who aren't our citizens.
This is what these people are doing.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Well, here's what we gotta do. John, let me just
jump in for one second. I'm not going to catch
you off. Here's what we gotta do. Let's let that
debate go forward. Let's get the statistics. Let's find out
how many people are, you know, on Medicare or whatever.
We have a policy in this country which I think
was passed under the Reagan administration that you probably know
(39:45):
is that anybody can go to an emergency room and
present themselves and say, hey, I'm here, I'm a human
being and I need help.
Speaker 9 (39:54):
Now. But they open the borders in and let millions
how much?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Look did I you know that I criticize that. I'm
not in favor of that. We got to somehow say,
we got to come up with some solution which is
reasonable and rational and the majority of the American people
can uh. And I might agree with you, by the way,
that if you're here illegally that we don't you know,
(40:24):
if you came here for for for government healthcare, don't
hang around. As simple as that, John, We may open
up this topic. I know we'll open it up in
the next couple of weeks for certain, And I want
you to be listening. I want and I want you
to take the lead as a caller.
Speaker 9 (40:40):
Okay, Dad, I just don't think that they shoudn't be
able to tap into the social security that you all listening.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I got you, John. I'm now flat out of time,
so I got to let you go, but let's continue
this conversation. Thanks John, rob Brooks. A great job, Marita,
A great job is always. I want to thank the
Deans of Admission, Bill Fitzsimmons from Harvard and Grant Concelin
from BC. I want to thank all of you, particularly
the callers. Done for the night. I am going to
do a nightside postgame real quickly. All dogs, all cats,
(41:10):
all pets go to heaven. That's Mi Palt Charlie Rays,
who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's why your
pets are who passed. They love you, you love them.
I do believe you'll see them begin to see again
to more. On Tuesday, state warm everybody, he's going to
get cold.
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