October 8, 2025 • 39 mins
Last weekend there were several illegal street takeovers that played out across Massachusetts including one in Boston, Randolph, Middleborough, Fall River, and Brockton. This growing nationwide trend of a “street takeover” is a meetup of people and cars that block off a street or streets to race or perform stunts and generate noise. Gov. Maura Healey addressed the trend Wednesday saying she’s committed to doing everything she can to get after the issue and pledged to punish anyone caught engaging in an illegal car meetup.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm telling you Boston's Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, Thanks very much, Dan Walkins. You're absolutely up
to date on the baseball scores. Yankees are out. They
skunk the Red Sox, but the Blue Jays skunt them.
So I guess all is fear and love in the
American League playoffs. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside
by the Way, just tomorrow night. I'd like to preview
tomorrow night's show for you a little bit. I tend
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not to be as good as I should be in
previewing programs. Tomorrow night at ten o'clock, we will have
the WBZ Car Guys with Scott and Larry, and they
will take all of your questions. We'll have them for
a couple of hours, so you want to get in
early because the lines do really fill up with Scott
and Larry. Any question you have about your car, maybe
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the type of car you're looking at. They have such
an amazing understanding of virtually every type of automobile that
you can imagine. That's number one and number two. They'll
give you all the tips you need to have as
we move into the winter driving season. And of course
it's not winter yet, but it's gonna be a little
chilly tomorrow, so stay warm. And then at nine o'clock
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tomorrow night, we're going to talk to two women who
do great work basically shipping materials overseas to US soldiers, Marines, Navy,
et cetera. And those heroic women they put together I
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would call them care packages whatever you want, a lot
of toiletries, candy and all of that. And now for
some reason they're being they're really being given a hard time,
not by the US post Office, but apparently by some
form of one of the international postal agencies. So they
have to literally list every specific item. You know, they'll
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put a box together, you know, could be you know,
eight or ten inches by eight or ten inches, so
that you'd have a few things in there. But they
have to now list everything and this is a burden
on them. And then we're going to talk about that
tomorrow night at nine o'clock. So having said that, what
I want to do is I want to continue to
talk about these two ugly incidents in Boston. We talked
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on Monday night about this so called meet up where
people had driven to I guess Brockton and then some
of them went to Rockland, and then some of them
went up to the Home Depot parking lot in West
Roxbury and then they all showed up at one thirty
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and they blocked intersections. They cause a huge problem at
one thirty on Sunday morning at the intersection of Tremont
and Mass Avenue, and eventually a Boston Police cruiser was ignited.
People who are friends of mine, who know a lot
more this that I do, say they did. They don't
think it was just a firecracker that basically put the
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police cruisers car, the car the cruiser on fire. That
it had to be somebody who did it intentionally. And
then last night about nine thirty, there was a demonstration
it's called a Week of Rage by Students for Justice
in Palestine, really a pro Hamas organization, and they came
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looking for a fight with the Boston Police Department and
they got that fight, that's for sure. Earlier tonight I
read the names of those who were arrested. Now all
of them enjoy the presumption of innocence. That's fine. However, however,
I want to read the names to you one more
time in their ages, which I think is most important,
and where they're from. So we start off with Osama L. Katib.
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He's twenty six from Watertown. Okay, he was there, he
got arrested. Most of them are for assaulting a police officer.
Atwood twenty one from Somerville. He's the guy who allegedly
punched a police officer, broke his nose and the police
officer now will need reconstructive surgery. Hailey McIntyre twenty four
of Dorchester, Madlin Michael twenty seven of Watertown. Jacob Pettigrew
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twenty two of Molden, A moon prophet, that's the name,
A moon prophet twenty five of Alston, Laieth Hinsman nineteen
in Boston. Benjamin Andre chu Crown twenty of Medford, Owen
Woodcock twenty six of Boston. He's kind of a senior
citizen in the group here. Prolade A Younga twenty five
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of Boston, Styx Hatch nineteen in Boston, and Gabrielle Smith
twenty eight of Cambridge. All were charged with resisting arrest,
as orderly conduct and disturbing the peace. Atwood faces that
addition of charge of assault and battery of a police
officer and destruction of property. So I think think this
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is going to be a problem that we're going to
see more of in the weeks ahead. I think that,
combined with the antipathy towards Donald Trump, and combined with
his threats of sending National Guard troops into various cities,
I guess he's already sent some to Chicago, Memphis, Tennessee, Portland, Oregon,
and of course Washington, where he had more opportunity because
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Washington is not a separate state. It's the district of Columbia.
Let's go to the phones. Oh yeah, let me get
one sound bite. By mistake, I just want to play
one sound bite from Governor Healy, and she's pretty strong
on this cut thirty four, please, rub.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I wanted to take a few moments to today to
address something that is really bothering me right now. You know,
I'm a former prosecutor, I'm a former attorney general. I'm
also the governor. And what I've seen, particularly over the
last week or a few weeks, is something I want
to address right now, and that is this trend of
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car meetups, of drag racing in communities.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And we've been.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Hearing about this for a little bit now. I've convened
roundtables with law enforcement in various regions of the state,
and we talked about a number of things, but one
of the things that we talked about is that increasingly
there are efforts online to send word out and then
ask people to meet up at a particular location, oftentimes
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at night, and then drag race carts. And we saw
incidents in Ball River in Boston over the weekend in Brockton,
and I just want to be really clear on a
couple of things. Do not engage in that behavior. Anyone
who engages in that conduct will be found and will
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be held accountable to the furthest extent of the law.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, let's say, if the words are backed up by action,
I suspect there will be future events like this. You've
seen the kids on the motorbikes who have taken their
motorbikes and driven on to the Southeast Expressway into the
tip O'Neil tunnel. It's just outrageous behavior, absolutely outrageous behavior.
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Let me go to Terry down on the Cape. Terry,
welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I can I'm okay, thank you. I hope you're feeling better.
I think you need to steam and put a little
vixed in the water. And just cleam it up.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Oh yeah, I'll be on the road to recovery tomorrow.
Get a good night's sleep. I'll be fine. You go
right ahead. What's your thought on all of this?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So this is terrorism, yes, in a simple term that
I don't even like to admit that's happening in our state,
but it is. But I'm not quite sure what to
do about the cars. Honestly, that is a real issue.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, if here's here's what I would do. Here's what
I would do if there were some kids or older
people who who thought it was a good idea to
uh to drive their cars to a to a specified intersection,
uh and just cause havoc doing you know, donuts in
the intersection and all of that. Once we got some
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police there, I would confiscate the cars. I would say,
you have just lost your car. We are confiscating this
car and we are either going to send them to
a to a junk yard where it will be crushed,
or uh, we're going to to to sell it to
a used car dealer who intern will sell it. I
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think I think that the state has a lot of
when when you use an item. For example, if you
use your car to transport drugs, you know, illicit drugs.
They can confiss gate the car because it's associated with
the crime. Well, if you're going to drive your car
to a meetup and you're going to be spinning around
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and causing havoc, I think that car can be confiscated.
And I'll bet you if you started to confiscate cars,
that would be the end of meetups Like yesterday.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I pick all their licenses aly immediately, Well.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They could still go drop that would be true, that's true.
Take the licenses away for a minimum of three years.
The last thing some kid who's twenty or twenty two
or twenty four wants to do is lose his or
her license. But if they get if they take the
cars away, if it's mom and dad's car, they have
to go explain to mom and dad why their car
is now headed to a junk yard or headed to
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be sold. I just think we got to get aggressive
with this stuff and stop it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Oh, absolutely absolutely. I wonder how many of the cars
and vehicles are stolen.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That's a possibility. And obviously if you catch some in
the stolen vehicle, now you can enhance the charges and
you can say okay, not only did you disturb the peace?
Not only did you involve in a car meet up,
not only did you close off an intersection. The governor
today said that at one of these over the weekend,
there was an ambulance that was trying to get a
patient to a hospital and they had to divert the
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way they went, and that additional time outrageous, outrageous, that
additional time. That could be you or me in the
back of an ambulance, and every second counts.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's right, they have no conc.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
It's where is these assemblies on foot go. Anybody that
doesn't have a permit to assembol should immediately be dispersed
to a stay of a crowd. And I'm took and
sending four or five fire trucks and tose them down.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I like you style. If I ever become governor, you're
going to become my commissioner of Public Safety to.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Well, I just want you to know I also put
a remanded all of them. I wouldn't let any of
them go today. I would send them ninety days in
patient Bridgewater State Hospital under a rocked toward away from
each other, take all of their devices away, don't let
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them even contact the leadership wherever they may be, and
interrogate them for ninety days. And then when they come
back to court after their dangerousness and all that stuff
is done, minimum, every single one of them go to
jail for a year. The guy that broke the police
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officers knows, oh, he's going for five years. Carry I've
not done I've not done that. He gets ten years.
There is maximum probation with the strictest rules on him
that if one infraction happens, he finishes that in jail,
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with another ten years added when he gets out.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I'm telling you now, if i haven't become governor, I
think I'm going to have to make you a judge
as opposed the commissions.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So I'm serious, we can't give them from now on.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
From now on, Terry, as far as I'm concerned, you
are judge, Terry. I want you to know that. Okay,
you're my sort of a judge.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I will take that as a compliment, Dan, and please
be well because we all need your voice.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Thanks, Terry, I do appreciate it. I'll be fine. I'll
take a couple of days, and I'm on some medications
now and I'll be in good shape and I'll get
a good night's sleep, and we'll be We'll be back
at it tomorrow. Terry, thank you so much for royalty
and your friendship. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Okay, thanks, thank you with the onpy Biker.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Great call. We'll take a quick break. I got John,
I got Jimmy, and I want Ruffie and I have
some room for other people. Six one seven, two, five
four ten thirty six one seven nine three thirty. I
think too many of you sit at home and you
don't have the courage to call and express yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You sit there and you say, I don't want someone
to recognize my voice. Let me tell you if we
don't stand up to these hooligans. Hooligans are what they
call the soccer fans in England who run onto the
field and abuse the players and other fans. But these
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are nothing. These are political hooligans. The SJP, the Students
for Justice in Palestine, that is that is a anti
Semitic organization. Whether they are membership knows it or not. Okay,
it's as simple as that. And again, hats off to
Governor Heally for her comments today. I'd like to see
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comments strongo comments from Governor Woo from Mayor Wu and
I want to hear your comments and if I get
to hear one person who disagreed with well, the only
person was Jeff and Abingdon. But Jeff is just kind
of a curmudgeon anyway, so uh, I'd like to let
him on just so you can see how crazy some
people are. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty
six one seven, nine three ten thirty. Right now, if
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you're in Abington, you can hear Jeff screaming back on
nights Side. Right after this, It's.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Night Side with Dan Raybzy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Okay, back to the Phone's got some open lines during
the conversation, get you in. Let me go to John
in Boston. Hey John, welcome back. How are you sir?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Hey Dan, thank you?
Speaker 5 (14:42):
How are you great?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And I'm just the that's awesome. The ages of these people.
Gabriel Smith's twenty eight, Ohwen Woodcock twenty six, Osama twenty six,
AM and Propa twenty five. He's on kids Den. These
are adults. Another guy prah had Ben got twenty five.
These are adults. Deal they go to war with nineteen
year olds and here are these people on the streets
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calling the cops think, go ironic. This is this they're
calling the cops Nazis, wearing Yasser Arafat Cafifa headdress, and
who trained Yasa Arafat. They're calling the cops Nazi who
trained yasa Arafat and the techniques of terror? It was
Otto Skorzandy who trained Yasa Arafat and the terror techniques.
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And he trains a Muzzlim brotherhood. And he happened to
be Hitler's favorite commando who rescued Mussolini in the mountain.
So Hitler's favorite commando trained Yasa Arafat. And these clowns
are wearing the Kaviva hats and calling the cops Nazis.
It's and they're grabbing their equipment, their cameras, they're radios,
and they're attacking them in there's money behind this, did
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I know? It's George Soros and the Open Society. These
people are being their leaders, being paid. Someone's being paid,
and they're getting these maybe younger people to join them.
But these there are definitely adults in this deand and
that was terrorists.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Last night.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I was a mile and a half. I could have
easily driven because I was with the family and you
know the kids we got caught in an interception and
they surrounded the car.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Uh, it could be extremely.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Dangerous for both sides. And this is it's simply it's
innock terrorized in the city of Boston. It terrorizes older people.
People are gonna come to the city to the restaurants
in that was downtown. You've got really nice restaurants.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
This just ticks me off there because I was right right.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Everybody everybody knows where Park Street station is is the
foot of the State House, or if you walk out
the front door of the State House, walk down Park
Street and you're right there on Tremont, that's where that's
where all the action was. And they picked that location.
The good part about it was it wasn't in the
middle of the common because at that point they could
have done things to the cops that no one would
have been able to see. So, you know, some police
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office is going to end up getting stabbed or shot.
This is this is going to get worse before it
gets better, and people of goodwill better start articulating their
opposition into this because this is first of all, this
starts with October seventh, twenty twenty three, when innocent Israeli men, women, children,
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and babies were slaughtered by jimas you know. And you're right,
this does trace back, This does trace back to Hitler.
You're absolutely right, John.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Anyone can look up to anyone just this historical record.
And they came last night with fireworks, smoke grenades, flaars weapons.
They were attacking. They're attacking cops and and it's terrorized
in the city. And I know cops again that the
rest of the guy with a legal gun, and then
a week later the rest and the DA lets them up.
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The next day, a week later they get the same
guy's got another gun illegal and the DA lets them out.
The legal system is letting these clowns off without any
kind of serious penalty. And this is just getting worse
and worse than like you said, yeah, a couple of
weeks ago that you hunted biseless on the motor bikes
of all types on the highway.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Andy, this is terrorism in the city of Boston. This
terrorism in an ok because it's scary, Well, this one is.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, this is political terrorism. Okay. I think that's important
to make that point. I don't think that the automobile
meetups are political that's a form of terrorism. I mean,
if you're driving home some night and you're an elderly person,
or if you're driving home and you're a twenty five
year old and all of a sudden you're going through
an intersection and people are spinning their wheels and doing
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donuts and whatever. Yeah, that's a tough spot to be in, John,
You're absolutely right, Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
This was definitely a plan. They brought weapons, they were
planning on it. Anarchy and I know a lot of
people who live in those ears, that work in those areas.
It's just terrorizing the city and they plan, they're playing
with fire, allowing us to go on. It's just it's
not going to get worse. Donald Trump needs to send
the troops here. Boston is short a thousand cops and
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four of them got injured last night that we know
for sure, maybe more, and all the equipment and there
was burning, everything wasston He's the national got here. We're
short police and they're allowing this to go on, and
the cops are over worked, they're working double shifts in
they're gonna put up with this graph from these twenty eight,
twenty six, twenty five year old clowns that have coming.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Well, some of them are even younger than that. I
mean some of them are. They were well, I could
just reach just some of the ages. You got twenty one,
twenty twenty two, nineteen, twenty nineteen, so there were some
in their late twenties, but none of them were older
than twenty eight. So we're talking about young people. And
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those are political organizers. Those are political luck that kid
from Tufts, he should be bounced out of Toughs. Okay,
And if tos is are smart, if TUFs is smart,
they want to say, hey, that behavior is not tolerated
on campus. You're suspended for a year. If you want
to apply to be you know, a year from now,
you can reapply to come back to Tough Toughs University.
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But but to let him be taking classes next week
or or this week is a is a uh is
a disgrace. That is a disgrace the Toughs. And I
have friends of mine, including Scott Brown, who are tough graduates.
Toughs is a great school. This kid's a little rich
kid out of Connecticut who went to a very you know,
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elegant day school I believe, or overnight school in New Jersey.
So I'm sure his parents have a lot of money,
a lot of money. John, I've got to run here
because I got my CBS report coming up on what's
going on again, John, we're out of time. Here's a
CBS News special report. It's Night's Eye with Dan Ray on.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
All right, let's get back to the phone. Is gonna
go to Jimmy in Boston. Jimmy, you're next on Nightside,
Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Yeah, jim I'm retired from a department here in Boston.
Also served in the Marine Corps.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So I.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Thank you for both of those services. By the way, I.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Think, well, I'll do it, do it, do it all
again if I could, if I was younger. So I
got caught. I got a call today and said, you
need to look at this Boston twenty five News Facebook
page that the governor put out about this car club stuff.
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So the past five years we monitor a lot of
coy washers, pocking watch and everything else. And one of
the big problems why we got all these calls was
because of these meetups. Dan. They come out at eleven
thirty at night, one in the morning, three in the morning.
So I started So in the past couple of years,
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I've been posting the videos that we have so on this.
But if people go on to Facebook Boston twenty five
News from today and has Tomorrow Hareley on there, they'll
see the videos that posted five of them.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
They come out with approximately like two hundred cars. They
will pull into a pocking lot. Okay. When they pull in,
the cars are popping, the rain, news are blaring. But
when they pull in, DN two hundred cars will pull
into a pocking lot with under a minute. Okay, And
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there's been then they you know, they call their car clubs,
they call them okay, and they drift this and when
they drift, anything can happen. And when we have a
guy sitting there lots of times I've been.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
There myself taking these videos.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Okay, and they are and they are wild. You can
smell the weed, you can smell it, you can sell
it in the air, of course you get okay.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And first of all, they're doing this it probably after midnight.
There was a big one of these a couple of
years ago. It was on at an intersection I believe
it was Newbury and Dartmuth Street, right in.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
The heart of the back day. We've been monitor these.
I've got friends that are retired. I got friends on
the force, state police, local police, everywhere. We keep in
touch with each other. Okay, and this is gonna get
I'm gonna get a little bit more in depth with
this where it all comes from that now she makes
a stance. Okay. So when now you know we get
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these calls. You know they come in, we make these calls.
We you know, we're told to call nine one one,
which we do. Okay, and last year I won't say
the town.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So the.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
On one certain property, a big mall property. The owner
they've been showing up on his property numerous times. So
they said you need to you need to hire a
security company. Owner says, fine, I'll finally do it because
we can't keep showing up here. We need to. You know,
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taxpayers pay for our services too. So they show up.
Two hundred cars come through one night. I'm sitting here,
and what do they They show up with two cruises.
They just they baby, you gotta go gotta one citation.
The one pulled over. So I said, they know who
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I am. I said, can I ask you why? You
know we can't engage? What do you mean you can't engage.
We're told we cannot engage. I'm asking the supervisor, who's
telling you you can't engage? About them is telling? So
after after the seventh time this happens, after a few.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Months, I said, listen, you're gonna tell me who's.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Telling you you can't engage. It's going higher up. So
I'm starting to make my calls. Dwell, dwelt the state. Okay,
so where it actually came from? Okay, and this is
a fact. And then we've already proven it all right,
the governor. The governor got a hold of the mayors,
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which the mayor's passes down to the police chiefs. If
you don't have any arrest, there's no reports, so it
shows that there's no crime exactly. Remember where we're in.
We're in the election time right now. No, No, he
has a good chance of winning. Now it's time to
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show force.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Well, I think that she's going to backslide a little
bit here. She's backfilling, I should say. And the Republicans. Uh,
and there's three of them at this point.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
They those folks can call into this show if they
wanted to. They could have called in tonight, you know,
and uh, they don't seem to take advantage of that.
So I'm not going to personally invite them, but their
citizens of the Commonwealth, and they have a right to
call in as well.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
So by no, this has been ongoing.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
This is I mean, I'm going back five years now.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
This isn't just something that's going.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
And she's very well aware of it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
No, I agree, I do.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
There's another thing that you brought up.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Like.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
The citations of it.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Okay, and I and I explained something to one of
one of the younger officers. Okay, I mean we're old
school offices. Okay, see you grab one of them. Okay,
Now you got them on trespassion, because usually on these
places as trespassing, sirey, usually a town has an ordinance
which you can grab them for one hundred and fifty
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to two hundred and fifty dollars. Fine. Once when you
have them on that, Now all of a sudden, if
you roll down the window, you can smell the weed.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Now all of a sudden you have them on that.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Now you have them step out of the vehicle. Now
all of a sudden you get a search, you find something,
and all of a sudden you have them on that.
Now you start running plates.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Most likely you may come up with a suspension or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Now you have them on that. Yeah there, now the
windows attempted, Now you have on that.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Fine, Now you I got it like that, I got it, Jimmy, Jimmy.
I don't know if you could hear me or not,
but you don't have to yell. I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, You're absolutely right. And the bottom line is, even
if you write him and they have to come into
court on a Monday morning or on a Tuesday morning,
now you got him in court. Now you can start
to play with him a little bit. And nobody likes
to get have to go into court. Nobody likes to
have to go into court. Nobody does. Okay, So yeah,
well look I appreciate your perspective. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
At this isn't a new thing that's happening it.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Plus years.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Oh yeah, no, believe me, Believe me, I'm familiar with that,
and that's why I'm doing it tonight and giving it
particular attention. I wish more people would call in, but
you were one of the best, if not the best
call of tonight in terms of just the information.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Take a look. Take a look at that bossin twenty
five Facebook thing.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
You'll see the videos on there.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Everyone, Okay, thanks very much. You gave it a good plug.
Thanks you, talk to you later. Have a great night.
Let me go next to Michelle in Pembroke. Hi, Michelle,
welcome next on Nightside. Hello Dan, I'm great, Michelle. How
are you notice everyone tonight? No one is defending these activities.
Everybody is appalled, which I'm very happy about. But go
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right ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
What I'd like to know is why are they only
being charge with.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
Maybe trespassing, you know, maybe just totally conduct. What else
could they be charged with? As far as I can see,
if you're in a car and you're driving it, you
should be charged with reckless driving.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Absolutely absolutely, and and I.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
Also believe when you stop terrorizing people. I don't know
what the actual legal definition of domestic terrorism is, but
I know if I was out and I was surrounded,
I would consider that an assault or a battery, even
if they never put their hands on me, even if
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they're terrorizing. No, No, it's clearly nook.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Well, first of all, it's obviously an assault, because what
an assault is is someone is in fear. It's from
your perspective, okay. And so you know, if there's two
guys arguing in the street and one guy gets a
little aggressive and I'm going to beat your brains out,
that's assault. It becomes battery once they touch the guy
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and he pokes him in the shoulder, that's assault and battery.
When you punch a cop. Has happened last night by
a twenty one year old student from Toff's Little rich kid. Uh,
that's assault, the battery and a police officer. And what
I was arguing before is that just as if you're
using your car to transport drugs to sell drugs, let's
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say they can confiscate the car.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Okay, absolutely, they are using your car as a weapon,
they should be able to confiscate it.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yes, yeah, And so either send it to a junkyard
and have it crushed, or sell it for a dollar
to uh, you know, or whatever whatever the blue book
is to. I'm sure that there's plenty of used car
places who would love the inventory. And at that point,
this kid, whether it's an eighteen year old or twenty
eight year old, he's walking home at two o'clock in
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the morning.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
I totally agree with every point you've made. But what
I don't understand is why are they never really held accountable.
They get a little slap on the wrist.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Maybe it's Massachusetts.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
With what they should.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Michelle as well as I do. It's Massachusetts.
Speaker 9 (31:01):
I know you're one of the wrong state.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Well we're one party state. No, no, no, we're a
one party state. It's Massachusetts, and the Republican Party doesn't
run enough candidates. If they ever are going to get
up off the mat, the Republican Party in Massachusetts, they
should get up off the mat next year and run
as many candidates as possible. But I'm not the political
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strategist for the Republican Party. I could just tell you
whenever you have a state where there's only one party,
it's not gonna it's not going to be good for
the population. It's like if you only have one grocery
store within fifty miles of your house, they can.
Speaker 9 (31:36):
Raise whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
You got it. So you know in effect this, you
know there's an anti trust violation here in terms of politics. Now,
again it's up to the Republican Party to get going,
and we try to give them some encouragement, but welcome
to Massachusetts. All right, Michelle, thank you, thank you so much,
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love your call. Thanks calling call more often? Will I
like your fire and I like your passion.
Speaker 9 (32:08):
Thank you, all right, Thanks, good night, good night.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
All right. The other side, I got Tina, I got Ron,
I got room for you. Six one, seven, two, five four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Come on right back on Night Side.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
I'm WZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Now let's go to Tina in Moon Socket, Rhode Island. Hi, Tina,
welcome back.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Oh yeah, Hi Dan, I tuned in late after ten o'clock. Okay,
but I'm so glad. Yeah, I'm so glad you're addressing
this issue. And those two punks from Rhode Island who
were also participating in the meetup. What I'm going to
ask you is low intensity. But I know this. I
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think one factor is you get these cars now that
are all supercharged and they make such noise. And I
noticed on the highway now when a car was going
really really fast, you had police officers going after them.
And I don't see that happening now. There's so much
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disregard for the for the law, and a lot of
these young people they want to terrorize the community. Well,
this is my question.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Go ahead, I ask you a question, but I think
I know what your question is going to be, and
I got a good answer for you.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
Okay. My question is this, in the summertime, sometimes you
have people coming around in their cars late at night
blasting their music. Do I have the right to call
the police and tell them and will they do something
about it?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, it depends, and I'll tell you why it depends.
What happens is that you have lawyers now who are
saying to police departments, well, unless it's like a serious crime,
like a murder or a bank Robbie robbery, if someone's speeding,
don't chase them, because if you speed after them and
they go faster and they get into an accident, we
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might be liable. The town of the city might be liable.
So you have all of these cowardly select men or
select women who tell the police chief don't pursue anyone.
And so that's what happens. And their attitude is they
would rather have you woken up every night by someone
driving by with loud music, or someone on Route twenty four.
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Some you know that comes up behind you and you
know you're going sixty five in the left lane and
they're flashing your lights and forcing you over, which can
be dangerous. That's the sort of stuff the cops that
cops should be concerned about. Pull someone like that over,
give them a warning or write them a ticket. Simple
as that we have gotten away from it.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Yeah, it's terrorizing the community. It stops small and it
gets bigger and bigger to what's happening.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
It's what's it's what's called the old broken windows theories.
If you, if you pay attention to broken windows, the
other stuff will fall in line. That's a theory that
Bill Bratton has and I think it makes a lot
of sense. It's like in your house. You know, if
all of a sudden you spill something something on the floor, uh,
and you clean it up right away, your house is
probably going to stay as a clean house. But if
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you don't get it tomorrow and all of a sudden
it's sticky on the floor and then yeah yeah, and
then it's on the carpet. You know. It's like pay
attention if you if you if you take care of
the little stuff, the big stuff is less likely to happen.
I got to get one more in Tina. I love
your call.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yay, thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Talk soon. Good questions, Ron and Newton. Ron, you're gonna
wrap the hour for us.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Go right ahead, run hi, Dan, just quickly.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
I don't I don't quite understand the reticence to deploy
our National Guard. They have been deployed, oh god, eleven times,
I guess, in six presidents since nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, well, I'm with you. I think that in a
city like Chicago, where kids, little kids are killed every weekend,
they have a horrific They don't care. The mayor of
Chicago could care less about people on the south Side.
The governor of Illinois could care less about people who
live on the south side. They walk around with their
police detachments. They've protected. No one's going to bother them.
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They're immune from it. But that's who Chicago and Illinois
voted in. And so as Barack Obama wants that elections
have consequences, yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
Well, I would argue that the threshold should be much
lower these days with the Internet. We didn't have the
internet back in this fifties and sixties and.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Seventiesbsolutely and these meetups are the great example of that.
Back in the old days, you'd have to call a
friend on the phone and say, hey, do you want
to go and race to drag racing tonight or whatever?
And before guys they had drag racing. Now, with the
groups and all of that, they can gay can turn
out two hundred people anywhere they want.
Speaker 8 (37:14):
Dan, I don't know for sure, but Sunday night at
one in the morning for an hour, that's all I heard.
I'm close to Walthamon was but that's it was an hour.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Well, let me tell you they did this in Newton's
Center three or four weeks ago. It didn't get much publicity.
But again, the mayor should have been on top of that.
The police department should have been on top of that.
People pay big real estate taxes to live in peace
and quietude in Newton, and they need to have the
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police out there making sure that these people are not
interfering with your night's sleep or what or other people's
night's sleep. It's as simple as that, you don't. But again,
we're going to hit this a lot in the next
few weeks, Ron because guess what this is coming down
the pike and get It's going to get worse before
it gets better.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
All the problem is I had to get up and
be it at a hospital at work at eight in
the morning. And if I'm tired, if I'm fatigued, and
I can make a mistake for patient care.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Absolutely no question run them up against my break. So
I got to let you go. Is always so great
to tell you boys. Thank you my friend. All right,
we are done for the night. Thanks Thanks Ron, talk
soon we had done for the night. Rob, nice job tonight, Marie,
a great job. I want to thank everyone who called.
I want to thank everyone who listened. I will be
on Facebook real quickly. I'm ready to do it. Get
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and again. Jump on Facebook. Nice that with Dan Ray,
and then I'll see you tomorrow. I'll be here at
four point thirty doing pregame and back tomorrow night at
eight oh five. We will have the car guys tomorrow
night from ten to twelve, and we will talk with
two women who are really having a problem shipping toward
the trees and supplies to you troops overseas. My name's Danray.
This is Nightside. Thank you very much for listening. Thanks
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for being part of nightside
It's with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm telling you Boston's Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, Thanks very much, Dan Walkins. You're absolutely up
to date on the baseball scores. Yankees are out. They
skunk the Red Sox, but the Blue Jays skunt them.
So I guess all is fear and love in the
American League playoffs. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside
by the Way, just tomorrow night. I'd like to preview
tomorrow night's show for you a little bit. I tend
(00:28):
not to be as good as I should be in
previewing programs. Tomorrow night at ten o'clock, we will have
the WBZ Car Guys with Scott and Larry, and they
will take all of your questions. We'll have them for
a couple of hours, so you want to get in
early because the lines do really fill up with Scott
and Larry. Any question you have about your car, maybe
(00:49):
the type of car you're looking at. They have such
an amazing understanding of virtually every type of automobile that
you can imagine. That's number one and number two. They'll
give you all the tips you need to have as
we move into the winter driving season. And of course
it's not winter yet, but it's gonna be a little
chilly tomorrow, so stay warm. And then at nine o'clock
(01:11):
tomorrow night, we're going to talk to two women who
do great work basically shipping materials overseas to US soldiers, Marines, Navy,
et cetera. And those heroic women they put together I
(01:34):
would call them care packages whatever you want, a lot
of toiletries, candy and all of that. And now for
some reason they're being they're really being given a hard time,
not by the US post Office, but apparently by some
form of one of the international postal agencies. So they
have to literally list every specific item. You know, they'll
(01:58):
put a box together, you know, could be you know,
eight or ten inches by eight or ten inches, so
that you'd have a few things in there. But they
have to now list everything and this is a burden
on them. And then we're going to talk about that
tomorrow night at nine o'clock. So having said that, what
I want to do is I want to continue to
talk about these two ugly incidents in Boston. We talked
(02:21):
on Monday night about this so called meet up where
people had driven to I guess Brockton and then some
of them went to Rockland, and then some of them
went up to the Home Depot parking lot in West
Roxbury and then they all showed up at one thirty
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and they blocked intersections. They cause a huge problem at
one thirty on Sunday morning at the intersection of Tremont
and Mass Avenue, and eventually a Boston Police cruiser was ignited.
People who are friends of mine, who know a lot
more this that I do, say they did. They don't
think it was just a firecracker that basically put the
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police cruisers car, the car the cruiser on fire. That
it had to be somebody who did it intentionally. And
then last night about nine thirty, there was a demonstration
it's called a Week of Rage by Students for Justice
in Palestine, really a pro Hamas organization, and they came
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looking for a fight with the Boston Police Department and
they got that fight, that's for sure. Earlier tonight I
read the names of those who were arrested. Now all
of them enjoy the presumption of innocence. That's fine. However, however,
I want to read the names to you one more
time in their ages, which I think is most important,
and where they're from. So we start off with Osama L. Katib.
(03:52):
He's twenty six from Watertown. Okay, he was there, he
got arrested. Most of them are for assaulting a police officer.
Atwood twenty one from Somerville. He's the guy who allegedly
punched a police officer, broke his nose and the police
officer now will need reconstructive surgery. Hailey McIntyre twenty four
of Dorchester, Madlin Michael twenty seven of Watertown. Jacob Pettigrew
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twenty two of Molden, A moon prophet, that's the name,
A moon prophet twenty five of Alston, Laieth Hinsman nineteen
in Boston. Benjamin Andre chu Crown twenty of Medford, Owen
Woodcock twenty six of Boston. He's kind of a senior
citizen in the group here. Prolade A Younga twenty five
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of Boston, Styx Hatch nineteen in Boston, and Gabrielle Smith
twenty eight of Cambridge. All were charged with resisting arrest,
as orderly conduct and disturbing the peace. Atwood faces that
addition of charge of assault and battery of a police
officer and destruction of property. So I think think this
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is going to be a problem that we're going to
see more of in the weeks ahead. I think that,
combined with the antipathy towards Donald Trump, and combined with
his threats of sending National Guard troops into various cities,
I guess he's already sent some to Chicago, Memphis, Tennessee, Portland, Oregon,
and of course Washington, where he had more opportunity because
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Washington is not a separate state. It's the district of Columbia.
Let's go to the phones. Oh yeah, let me get
one sound bite. By mistake, I just want to play
one sound bite from Governor Healy, and she's pretty strong
on this cut thirty four, please, rub.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I wanted to take a few moments to today to
address something that is really bothering me right now. You know,
I'm a former prosecutor, I'm a former attorney general. I'm
also the governor. And what I've seen, particularly over the
last week or a few weeks, is something I want
to address right now, and that is this trend of
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car meetups, of drag racing in communities.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And we've been.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Hearing about this for a little bit now. I've convened
roundtables with law enforcement in various regions of the state,
and we talked about a number of things, but one
of the things that we talked about is that increasingly
there are efforts online to send word out and then
ask people to meet up at a particular location, oftentimes
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at night, and then drag race carts. And we saw
incidents in Ball River in Boston over the weekend in Brockton,
and I just want to be really clear on a
couple of things. Do not engage in that behavior. Anyone
who engages in that conduct will be found and will
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be held accountable to the furthest extent of the law.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, let's say, if the words are backed up by action,
I suspect there will be future events like this. You've
seen the kids on the motorbikes who have taken their
motorbikes and driven on to the Southeast Expressway into the
tip O'Neil tunnel. It's just outrageous behavior, absolutely outrageous behavior.
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Let me go to Terry down on the Cape. Terry,
welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I can I'm okay, thank you. I hope you're feeling better.
I think you need to steam and put a little
vixed in the water. And just cleam it up.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Oh yeah, I'll be on the road to recovery tomorrow.
Get a good night's sleep. I'll be fine. You go
right ahead. What's your thought on all of this?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So this is terrorism, yes, in a simple term that
I don't even like to admit that's happening in our state,
but it is. But I'm not quite sure what to
do about the cars. Honestly, that is a real issue.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, if here's here's what I would do. Here's what
I would do if there were some kids or older
people who who thought it was a good idea to
uh to drive their cars to a to a specified intersection,
uh and just cause havoc doing you know, donuts in
the intersection and all of that. Once we got some
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police there, I would confiscate the cars. I would say,
you have just lost your car. We are confiscating this
car and we are either going to send them to
a to a junk yard where it will be crushed,
or uh, we're going to to to sell it to
a used car dealer who intern will sell it. I
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think I think that the state has a lot of
when when you use an item. For example, if you
use your car to transport drugs, you know, illicit drugs.
They can confiss gate the car because it's associated with
the crime. Well, if you're going to drive your car
to a meetup and you're going to be spinning around
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and causing havoc, I think that car can be confiscated.
And I'll bet you if you started to confiscate cars,
that would be the end of meetups Like yesterday.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I pick all their licenses aly immediately, Well.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They could still go drop that would be true, that's true.
Take the licenses away for a minimum of three years.
The last thing some kid who's twenty or twenty two
or twenty four wants to do is lose his or
her license. But if they get if they take the
cars away, if it's mom and dad's car, they have
to go explain to mom and dad why their car
is now headed to a junk yard or headed to
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be sold. I just think we got to get aggressive
with this stuff and stop it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Oh, absolutely absolutely. I wonder how many of the cars
and vehicles are stolen.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That's a possibility. And obviously if you catch some in
the stolen vehicle, now you can enhance the charges and
you can say okay, not only did you disturb the peace?
Not only did you involve in a car meet up,
not only did you close off an intersection. The governor
today said that at one of these over the weekend,
there was an ambulance that was trying to get a
patient to a hospital and they had to divert the
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way they went, and that additional time outrageous, outrageous, that
additional time. That could be you or me in the
back of an ambulance, and every second counts.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's right, they have no conc.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
It's where is these assemblies on foot go. Anybody that
doesn't have a permit to assembol should immediately be dispersed
to a stay of a crowd. And I'm took and
sending four or five fire trucks and tose them down.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I like you style. If I ever become governor, you're
going to become my commissioner of Public Safety to.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Well, I just want you to know I also put
a remanded all of them. I wouldn't let any of
them go today. I would send them ninety days in
patient Bridgewater State Hospital under a rocked toward away from
each other, take all of their devices away, don't let
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them even contact the leadership wherever they may be, and
interrogate them for ninety days. And then when they come
back to court after their dangerousness and all that stuff
is done, minimum, every single one of them go to
jail for a year. The guy that broke the police
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officers knows, oh, he's going for five years. Carry I've
not done I've not done that. He gets ten years.
There is maximum probation with the strictest rules on him
that if one infraction happens, he finishes that in jail,
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with another ten years added when he gets out.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I'm telling you now, if i haven't become governor, I
think I'm going to have to make you a judge
as opposed the commissions.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So I'm serious, we can't give them from now on.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
From now on, Terry, as far as I'm concerned, you
are judge, Terry. I want you to know that. Okay,
you're my sort of a judge.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I will take that as a compliment, Dan, and please
be well because we all need your voice.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Thanks, Terry, I do appreciate it. I'll be fine. I'll
take a couple of days, and I'm on some medications
now and I'll be in good shape and I'll get
a good night's sleep, and we'll be We'll be back
at it tomorrow. Terry, thank you so much for royalty
and your friendship. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Okay, thanks, thank you with the onpy Biker.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Great call. We'll take a quick break. I got John,
I got Jimmy, and I want Ruffie and I have
some room for other people. Six one seven, two, five
four ten thirty six one seven nine three thirty. I
think too many of you sit at home and you
don't have the courage to call and express yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You sit there and you say, I don't want someone
to recognize my voice. Let me tell you if we
don't stand up to these hooligans. Hooligans are what they
call the soccer fans in England who run onto the
field and abuse the players and other fans. But these
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are nothing. These are political hooligans. The SJP, the Students
for Justice in Palestine, that is that is a anti
Semitic organization. Whether they are membership knows it or not. Okay,
it's as simple as that. And again, hats off to
Governor Heally for her comments today. I'd like to see
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comments strongo comments from Governor Woo from Mayor Wu and
I want to hear your comments and if I get
to hear one person who disagreed with well, the only
person was Jeff and Abingdon. But Jeff is just kind
of a curmudgeon anyway, so uh, I'd like to let
him on just so you can see how crazy some
people are. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty
six one seven, nine three ten thirty. Right now, if
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you're in Abington, you can hear Jeff screaming back on
nights Side. Right after this, It's.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Night Side with Dan Raybzy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Okay, back to the Phone's got some open lines during
the conversation, get you in. Let me go to John
in Boston. Hey John, welcome back. How are you sir?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Hey Dan, thank you?
Speaker 5 (14:42):
How are you great?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And I'm just the that's awesome. The ages of these people.
Gabriel Smith's twenty eight, Ohwen Woodcock twenty six, Osama twenty six,
AM and Propa twenty five. He's on kids Den. These
are adults. Another guy prah had Ben got twenty five.
These are adults. Deal they go to war with nineteen
year olds and here are these people on the streets
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calling the cops think, go ironic. This is this they're
calling the cops Nazis, wearing Yasser Arafat Cafifa headdress, and
who trained Yasa Arafat. They're calling the cops Nazi who
trained yasa Arafat and the techniques of terror? It was
Otto Skorzandy who trained Yasa Arafat and the terror techniques.
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And he trains a Muzzlim brotherhood. And he happened to
be Hitler's favorite commando who rescued Mussolini in the mountain.
So Hitler's favorite commando trained Yasa Arafat. And these clowns
are wearing the Kaviva hats and calling the cops Nazis.
It's and they're grabbing their equipment, their cameras, they're radios,
and they're attacking them in there's money behind this, did
(15:46):
I know? It's George Soros and the Open Society. These
people are being their leaders, being paid. Someone's being paid,
and they're getting these maybe younger people to join them.
But these there are definitely adults in this deand and
that was terrorists.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Last night.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I was a mile and a half. I could have
easily driven because I was with the family and you
know the kids we got caught in an interception and
they surrounded the car.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Uh, it could be extremely.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Dangerous for both sides. And this is it's simply it's
innock terrorized in the city of Boston. It terrorizes older people.
People are gonna come to the city to the restaurants
in that was downtown. You've got really nice restaurants.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
This just ticks me off there because I was right right.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Everybody everybody knows where Park Street station is is the
foot of the State House, or if you walk out
the front door of the State House, walk down Park
Street and you're right there on Tremont, that's where that's
where all the action was. And they picked that location.
The good part about it was it wasn't in the
middle of the common because at that point they could
have done things to the cops that no one would
have been able to see. So, you know, some police
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office is going to end up getting stabbed or shot.
This is this is going to get worse before it
gets better, and people of goodwill better start articulating their
opposition into this because this is first of all, this
starts with October seventh, twenty twenty three, when innocent Israeli men, women, children,
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and babies were slaughtered by jimas you know. And you're right,
this does trace back, This does trace back to Hitler.
You're absolutely right, John.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Anyone can look up to anyone just this historical record.
And they came last night with fireworks, smoke grenades, flaars weapons.
They were attacking. They're attacking cops and and it's terrorized
in the city. And I know cops again that the
rest of the guy with a legal gun, and then
a week later the rest and the DA lets them up.
(17:40):
The next day, a week later they get the same
guy's got another gun illegal and the DA lets them out.
The legal system is letting these clowns off without any
kind of serious penalty. And this is just getting worse
and worse than like you said, yeah, a couple of
weeks ago that you hunted biseless on the motor bikes
of all types on the highway.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Andy, this is terrorism in the city of Boston. This
terrorism in an ok because it's scary, Well, this one is.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, this is political terrorism. Okay. I think that's important
to make that point. I don't think that the automobile
meetups are political that's a form of terrorism. I mean,
if you're driving home some night and you're an elderly person,
or if you're driving home and you're a twenty five
year old and all of a sudden you're going through
an intersection and people are spinning their wheels and doing
(18:32):
donuts and whatever. Yeah, that's a tough spot to be in, John,
You're absolutely right, Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
This was definitely a plan. They brought weapons, they were
planning on it. Anarchy and I know a lot of
people who live in those ears, that work in those areas.
It's just terrorizing the city and they plan, they're playing
with fire, allowing us to go on. It's just it's
not going to get worse. Donald Trump needs to send
the troops here. Boston is short a thousand cops and
(19:00):
four of them got injured last night that we know
for sure, maybe more, and all the equipment and there
was burning, everything wasston He's the national got here. We're
short police and they're allowing this to go on, and
the cops are over worked, they're working double shifts in
they're gonna put up with this graph from these twenty eight,
twenty six, twenty five year old clowns that have coming.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Well, some of them are even younger than that. I
mean some of them are. They were well, I could
just reach just some of the ages. You got twenty one,
twenty twenty two, nineteen, twenty nineteen, so there were some
in their late twenties, but none of them were older
than twenty eight. So we're talking about young people. And
(19:42):
those are political organizers. Those are political luck that kid
from Tufts, he should be bounced out of Toughs. Okay,
And if tos is are smart, if TUFs is smart,
they want to say, hey, that behavior is not tolerated
on campus. You're suspended for a year. If you want
to apply to be you know, a year from now,
you can reapply to come back to Tough Toughs University.
(20:05):
But but to let him be taking classes next week
or or this week is a is a uh is
a disgrace. That is a disgrace the Toughs. And I
have friends of mine, including Scott Brown, who are tough graduates.
Toughs is a great school. This kid's a little rich
kid out of Connecticut who went to a very you know,
(20:26):
elegant day school I believe, or overnight school in New Jersey.
So I'm sure his parents have a lot of money,
a lot of money. John, I've got to run here
because I got my CBS report coming up on what's
going on again, John, we're out of time. Here's a
CBS News special report. It's Night's Eye with Dan Ray on.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
All right, let's get back to the phone. Is gonna
go to Jimmy in Boston. Jimmy, you're next on Nightside,
Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Yeah, jim I'm retired from a department here in Boston.
Also served in the Marine Corps.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So I.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Thank you for both of those services. By the way, I.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Think, well, I'll do it, do it, do it all
again if I could, if I was younger. So I
got caught. I got a call today and said, you
need to look at this Boston twenty five News Facebook
page that the governor put out about this car club stuff.
(21:33):
So the past five years we monitor a lot of
coy washers, pocking watch and everything else. And one of
the big problems why we got all these calls was
because of these meetups. Dan. They come out at eleven
thirty at night, one in the morning, three in the morning.
So I started So in the past couple of years,
(21:55):
I've been posting the videos that we have so on this.
But if people go on to Facebook Boston twenty five
News from today and has Tomorrow Hareley on there, they'll
see the videos that posted five of them.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
They come out with approximately like two hundred cars. They
will pull into a pocking lot. Okay. When they pull in,
the cars are popping, the rain, news are blaring. But
when they pull in, DN two hundred cars will pull
into a pocking lot with under a minute. Okay, And
(22:34):
there's been then they you know, they call their car clubs,
they call them okay, and they drift this and when
they drift, anything can happen. And when we have a
guy sitting there lots of times I've been.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
There myself taking these videos.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Okay, and they are and they are wild. You can
smell the weed, you can smell it, you can sell
it in the air, of course you get okay.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And first of all, they're doing this it probably after midnight.
There was a big one of these a couple of
years ago. It was on at an intersection I believe
it was Newbury and Dartmuth Street, right in.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
The heart of the back day. We've been monitor these.
I've got friends that are retired. I got friends on
the force, state police, local police, everywhere. We keep in
touch with each other. Okay, and this is gonna get
I'm gonna get a little bit more in depth with
this where it all comes from that now she makes
a stance. Okay. So when now you know we get
(23:36):
these calls. You know they come in, we make these calls.
We you know, we're told to call nine one one,
which we do. Okay, and last year I won't say
the town.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So the.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
On one certain property, a big mall property. The owner
they've been showing up on his property numerous times. So
they said you need to you need to hire a
security company. Owner says, fine, I'll finally do it because
we can't keep showing up here. We need to. You know,
(24:11):
taxpayers pay for our services too. So they show up.
Two hundred cars come through one night. I'm sitting here,
and what do they They show up with two cruises.
They just they baby, you gotta go gotta one citation.
The one pulled over. So I said, they know who
(24:34):
I am. I said, can I ask you why? You
know we can't engage? What do you mean you can't engage.
We're told we cannot engage. I'm asking the supervisor, who's
telling you you can't engage? About them is telling? So
after after the seventh time this happens, after a few.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Months, I said, listen, you're gonna tell me who's.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Telling you you can't engage. It's going higher up. So
I'm starting to make my calls. Dwell, dwelt the state. Okay,
so where it actually came from? Okay, and this is
a fact. And then we've already proven it all right,
the governor. The governor got a hold of the mayors,
(25:17):
which the mayor's passes down to the police chiefs. If
you don't have any arrest, there's no reports, so it
shows that there's no crime exactly. Remember where we're in.
We're in the election time right now. No, No, he
has a good chance of winning. Now it's time to
(25:38):
show force.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Well, I think that she's going to backslide a little
bit here. She's backfilling, I should say. And the Republicans. Uh,
and there's three of them at this point.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
They those folks can call into this show if they
wanted to. They could have called in tonight, you know,
and uh, they don't seem to take advantage of that.
So I'm not going to personally invite them, but their
citizens of the Commonwealth, and they have a right to
call in as well.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
So by no, this has been ongoing.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
This is I mean, I'm going back five years now.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
This isn't just something that's going.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
And she's very well aware of it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
No, I agree, I do.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
There's another thing that you brought up.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Like.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
The citations of it.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Okay, and I and I explained something to one of
one of the younger officers. Okay, I mean we're old
school offices. Okay, see you grab one of them. Okay,
Now you got them on trespassion, because usually on these
places as trespassing, sirey, usually a town has an ordinance
which you can grab them for one hundred and fifty
(26:44):
to two hundred and fifty dollars. Fine. Once when you
have them on that, Now all of a sudden, if
you roll down the window, you can smell the weed.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Now all of a sudden you have them on that.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Now you have them step out of the vehicle. Now
all of a sudden you get a search, you find something,
and all of a sudden you have them on that.
Now you start running plates.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Most likely you may come up with a suspension or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Now you have them on that. Yeah there, now the
windows attempted, Now you have on that.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Fine, Now you I got it like that, I got it, Jimmy, Jimmy.
I don't know if you could hear me or not,
but you don't have to yell. I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, You're absolutely right. And the bottom line is, even
if you write him and they have to come into
court on a Monday morning or on a Tuesday morning,
now you got him in court. Now you can start
to play with him a little bit. And nobody likes
to get have to go into court. Nobody likes to
have to go into court. Nobody does. Okay, So yeah,
well look I appreciate your perspective. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
At this isn't a new thing that's happening it.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Plus years.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Oh yeah, no, believe me, Believe me, I'm familiar with that,
and that's why I'm doing it tonight and giving it
particular attention. I wish more people would call in, but
you were one of the best, if not the best
call of tonight in terms of just the information.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Take a look. Take a look at that bossin twenty
five Facebook thing.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
You'll see the videos on there.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Everyone, Okay, thanks very much. You gave it a good plug.
Thanks you, talk to you later. Have a great night.
Let me go next to Michelle in Pembroke. Hi, Michelle,
welcome next on Nightside. Hello Dan, I'm great, Michelle. How
are you notice everyone tonight? No one is defending these activities.
Everybody is appalled, which I'm very happy about. But go
(28:35):
right ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
What I'd like to know is why are they only
being charge with.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
Maybe trespassing, you know, maybe just totally conduct. What else
could they be charged with? As far as I can see,
if you're in a car and you're driving it, you
should be charged with reckless driving.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Absolutely absolutely, and and I.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
Also believe when you stop terrorizing people. I don't know
what the actual legal definition of domestic terrorism is, but
I know if I was out and I was surrounded,
I would consider that an assault or a battery, even
if they never put their hands on me, even if
(29:23):
they're terrorizing. No, No, it's clearly nook.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Well, first of all, it's obviously an assault, because what
an assault is is someone is in fear. It's from
your perspective, okay. And so you know, if there's two
guys arguing in the street and one guy gets a
little aggressive and I'm going to beat your brains out,
that's assault. It becomes battery once they touch the guy
(29:48):
and he pokes him in the shoulder, that's assault and battery.
When you punch a cop. Has happened last night by
a twenty one year old student from Toff's Little rich kid. Uh,
that's assault, the battery and a police officer. And what
I was arguing before is that just as if you're
using your car to transport drugs to sell drugs, let's
(30:12):
say they can confiscate the car.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Okay, absolutely, they are using your car as a weapon,
they should be able to confiscate it.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yes, yeah, And so either send it to a junkyard
and have it crushed, or sell it for a dollar
to uh, you know, or whatever whatever the blue book
is to. I'm sure that there's plenty of used car
places who would love the inventory. And at that point,
this kid, whether it's an eighteen year old or twenty
eight year old, he's walking home at two o'clock in
(30:42):
the morning.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
I totally agree with every point you've made. But what
I don't understand is why are they never really held accountable.
They get a little slap on the wrist.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Maybe it's Massachusetts.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
With what they should.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Michelle as well as I do. It's Massachusetts.
Speaker 9 (31:01):
I know you're one of the wrong state.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Well we're one party state. No, no, no, we're a
one party state. It's Massachusetts, and the Republican Party doesn't
run enough candidates. If they ever are going to get
up off the mat, the Republican Party in Massachusetts, they
should get up off the mat next year and run
as many candidates as possible. But I'm not the political
(31:23):
strategist for the Republican Party. I could just tell you
whenever you have a state where there's only one party,
it's not gonna it's not going to be good for
the population. It's like if you only have one grocery
store within fifty miles of your house, they can.
Speaker 9 (31:36):
Raise whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
You got it. So you know in effect this, you
know there's an anti trust violation here in terms of politics. Now,
again it's up to the Republican Party to get going,
and we try to give them some encouragement, but welcome
to Massachusetts. All right, Michelle, thank you, thank you so much,
(32:03):
love your call. Thanks calling call more often? Will I
like your fire and I like your passion.
Speaker 9 (32:08):
Thank you, all right, Thanks, good night, good night.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
All right. The other side, I got Tina, I got Ron,
I got room for you. Six one, seven, two, five four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Come on right back on Night Side.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
I'm WZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Now let's go to Tina in Moon Socket, Rhode Island. Hi, Tina,
welcome back.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Oh yeah, Hi Dan, I tuned in late after ten o'clock. Okay,
but I'm so glad. Yeah, I'm so glad you're addressing
this issue. And those two punks from Rhode Island who
were also participating in the meetup. What I'm going to
ask you is low intensity. But I know this. I
(32:55):
think one factor is you get these cars now that
are all supercharged and they make such noise. And I
noticed on the highway now when a car was going
really really fast, you had police officers going after them.
And I don't see that happening now. There's so much
(33:17):
disregard for the for the law, and a lot of
these young people they want to terrorize the community. Well,
this is my question.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Go ahead, I ask you a question, but I think
I know what your question is going to be, and
I got a good answer for you.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
Okay. My question is this, in the summertime, sometimes you
have people coming around in their cars late at night
blasting their music. Do I have the right to call
the police and tell them and will they do something
about it?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, it depends, and I'll tell you why it depends.
What happens is that you have lawyers now who are
saying to police departments, well, unless it's like a serious crime,
like a murder or a bank Robbie robbery, if someone's speeding,
don't chase them, because if you speed after them and
they go faster and they get into an accident, we
(34:12):
might be liable. The town of the city might be liable.
So you have all of these cowardly select men or
select women who tell the police chief don't pursue anyone.
And so that's what happens. And their attitude is they
would rather have you woken up every night by someone
driving by with loud music, or someone on Route twenty four.
(34:39):
Some you know that comes up behind you and you
know you're going sixty five in the left lane and
they're flashing your lights and forcing you over, which can
be dangerous. That's the sort of stuff the cops that
cops should be concerned about. Pull someone like that over,
give them a warning or write them a ticket. Simple
as that we have gotten away from it.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Yeah, it's terrorizing the community. It stops small and it
gets bigger and bigger to what's happening.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
It's what's it's what's called the old broken windows theories.
If you, if you pay attention to broken windows, the
other stuff will fall in line. That's a theory that
Bill Bratton has and I think it makes a lot
of sense. It's like in your house. You know, if
all of a sudden you spill something something on the floor, uh,
and you clean it up right away, your house is
probably going to stay as a clean house. But if
(35:25):
you don't get it tomorrow and all of a sudden
it's sticky on the floor and then yeah yeah, and
then it's on the carpet. You know. It's like pay
attention if you if you if you take care of
the little stuff, the big stuff is less likely to happen.
I got to get one more in Tina. I love
your call.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yay, thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Talk soon. Good questions, Ron and Newton. Ron, you're gonna
wrap the hour for us.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Go right ahead, run hi, Dan, just quickly.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
I don't I don't quite understand the reticence to deploy
our National Guard. They have been deployed, oh god, eleven times,
I guess, in six presidents since nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, well, I'm with you. I think that in a
city like Chicago, where kids, little kids are killed every weekend,
they have a horrific They don't care. The mayor of
Chicago could care less about people on the south Side.
The governor of Illinois could care less about people who
live on the south side. They walk around with their
police detachments. They've protected. No one's going to bother them.
(36:30):
They're immune from it. But that's who Chicago and Illinois
voted in. And so as Barack Obama wants that elections
have consequences, yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
Well, I would argue that the threshold should be much
lower these days with the Internet. We didn't have the
internet back in this fifties and sixties and.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Seventiesbsolutely and these meetups are the great example of that.
Back in the old days, you'd have to call a
friend on the phone and say, hey, do you want
to go and race to drag racing tonight or whatever?
And before guys they had drag racing. Now, with the
groups and all of that, they can gay can turn
out two hundred people anywhere they want.
Speaker 8 (37:14):
Dan, I don't know for sure, but Sunday night at
one in the morning for an hour, that's all I heard.
I'm close to Walthamon was but that's it was an hour.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Well, let me tell you they did this in Newton's
Center three or four weeks ago. It didn't get much publicity.
But again, the mayor should have been on top of that.
The police department should have been on top of that.
People pay big real estate taxes to live in peace
and quietude in Newton, and they need to have the
(37:48):
police out there making sure that these people are not
interfering with your night's sleep or what or other people's
night's sleep. It's as simple as that, you don't. But again,
we're going to hit this a lot in the next
few weeks, Ron because guess what this is coming down
the pike and get It's going to get worse before
it gets better.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
All the problem is I had to get up and
be it at a hospital at work at eight in
the morning. And if I'm tired, if I'm fatigued, and
I can make a mistake for patient care.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Absolutely no question run them up against my break. So
I got to let you go. Is always so great
to tell you boys. Thank you my friend. All right,
we are done for the night. Thanks Thanks Ron, talk
soon we had done for the night. Rob, nice job tonight, Marie,
a great job. I want to thank everyone who called.
I want to thank everyone who listened. I will be
on Facebook real quickly. I'm ready to do it. Get
(38:42):
and again. Jump on Facebook. Nice that with Dan Ray,
and then I'll see you tomorrow. I'll be here at
four point thirty doing pregame and back tomorrow night at
eight oh five. We will have the car guys tomorrow
night from ten to twelve, and we will talk with
two women who are really having a problem shipping toward
the trees and supplies to you troops overseas. My name's Danray.
This is Nightside. Thank you very much for listening. Thanks
(39:04):
for being part of nightside
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