March 14, 2024 • 38 mins
March is Colon Cancer Awareness Month. Incidence of the disease has been rising for the past 2 decades. Colorectal cancer is the deadliest cancer for men under age 50, and the second deadliest cancer among women in the same age group. With Dr. Frederick Ruymann, a gastroenterologist from Cape Cod Healthcare.
FREE Arts & Entertainment Lecture, part of the Series with Workshops from Arts Empowering Life hosted at the NEW Performing Arts Center in Brewster, MA . Paul Tingley, Program Coordinator about this series and Beauty, Truth and Faith in the Arts discusses the program with Dan.
WBZ NewsRadio’s Emma Friedman found a Derry Girls Pop Up Bar in Boston.
And Dr. Adam Hartstone-Rose Animal Behavior during a Total Solar Eclipse – Been found to act out of character - Solar Eclipse Safari, a citizen project aiming to collect observations from people viewing the eclipse.
FREE Arts & Entertainment Lecture, part of the Series with Workshops from Arts Empowering Life hosted at the NEW Performing Arts Center in Brewster, MA . Paul Tingley, Program Coordinator about this series and Beauty, Truth and Faith in the Arts discusses the program with Dan.
WBZ NewsRadio’s Emma Friedman found a Derry Girls Pop Up Bar in Boston.
And Dr. Adam Hartstone-Rose Animal Behavior during a Total Solar Eclipse – Been found to act out of character - Solar Eclipse Safari, a citizen project aiming to collect observations from people viewing the eclipse.
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It's nice eyes, Dan Ray,I'm dull you Boston's News Radio. Thank
you very much to Cole. Myname is Dan Ray, host of Nightside.
As you might have been able toconclude from Nicole's remarks, I'm here
every Monday through Friday night from eightuntil midnight. Rob Brooks's back in command
Control Rooms Central, where he willclear all of your phone calls in the
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nine o'clock hour. Because the firsthour we devote to four subjects. They
may not be the most newsworthy subjects, or in some cases they are very
newsworthy. They may be of culturalinterest, as we have at least one
or two to night to deal withculture, and there's also one we're going
to talk about tonight about animal behaviorbehavior during a total solar eclipse. So
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let's get right to it. Ourfirst guest is doctor Frederick Ryman, and
we're going to talk to him aboutMarch being colon cancer Awareness month. Apparently
incidents of this disease has been rightbeen rising for the last couple of decades.
Colo rectal cancer now the deadliest cancerfor men under the age of fifty
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to second deadliest cancer among women inthe same age group. Doctor Rieman what
are we doing wrong that all ofa sudden the rates of colon cancer seem
to be going up? A Hi, Dan, great to be with you
and your listeners, and you're indeedcorrect. We've seen a significant increase in
colorectal cancer in those patients age fortyto forty nine in the last six years,
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a fifteen percent increase in fact,And I think really the clues lie
to what we already know about coloncancer, and if you look at risk
factors, for instance, diet certainlyplays a huge role. You know,
fat red and processed meats, alow fiber diet, obesity rates or skyrocketing,
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we've got more people really engaged ina sedentary lifestyle. And also alcohol
use. I know we'll often thinkabout that, we think about liver disease,
but it does increase your risk ofcolon cancer as well. And I
can't help but think too that thereare likely environmental factors which we're going to
learn more about the issue of nitratesand perhaps even PIFAs. I mean,
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it's that's a I know of somewhatcontroversial topic, but I think that data
is forthcoming and I think more we'lllearn more here short, I heard I
heard your comment about nitrates. I'mnot exactly sure how nitrates would play.
And what was the second item thatyou mentioned, perhaps PIFAs. I have
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no idea what that is. Whydon't you explain with you? Yeah?
So, yeah, PIFAs are basicallysort of byproducts of plastic and there's been
some recent data, particularly regarding therisk of heart disease, in which these
have been associated with increased coronary arterydisease and plaqueformation. And we know that
these cause internal inflammation within the body, and it's plausible that these are also
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playing a role. I think theargument being that some of our food is
now contained more in plastic containing certainlycertainly indeed, and if you look as
well, you know, water suppliesare being certainly under scrutiny. We're seeing
that on Keith Cod left and right, and people are re examining that.
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I think if you had to lookat that list, I think obesity is
probably a huge factor. So letme ask you a little bit of a
challenging question. In the last twentyyears, the last thirty years, all
of us have been told what toeat, what not to eat. You
know, our parents had that starchand red meat diet. For in the
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fifties and sixties, it was roastbeef on Sunday and warmed over roast beef
on Monday, and roast beef hashon Tuesday. Now we have more people
who are vegan or or vegetarians orpescatarians. So you would think that,
particularly amongst that age group of peoplewho have come of age in the last
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twenty or so years, that colorectal cancer rates should be down if anything.
Never mind, Now this this bogwas my mind. It shouldn't have,
though, because if you look atobesity rates, they have increased significantly,
and you know that's that's a problem, and we know this is a
risk factor for colon cancer. Sodespite the fact that we've got a certain
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certain population at least out there whoare paying attention and perhaps not engaging in
a sedentary lifestyle. They're exercising ina regular basis, they're not smoking,
we've got a lot of folks whoaren't following that strategy. Okay, let's
let's go. Let's get down tothe nitty gritty here. Okay. Yeah,
first of all, anyone who hashad a colon oscoby and I've had
three or four of them in mylife. It's not a fun experience.
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I mean, it's it's it's notlike going to the movies. And but
you got to do it. There'sno question you got to do it.
Now. I see a lot ofads on TV where they say, well,
you really don't. We have thishome test kit which will make it
easier. First of all, ona scale of zero to ten. If
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ten is the gold standard, whichis a full colonoscopy, where did these
test kits? Are they nines oreight or are they three or Four's?
Well, to give you some perspective, I think it's it's you got to
look at the data. So thereare two test kits. But I assume
you've looked at it. That's whyI'm asking you. God, Yeah,
no, I know, I know, and you know, And I think
it's it's important to tease this out. And it's a good question. There
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are two test kits. One isthe fecal imino chemical test, or the
FIT test. It detects blood inthe stool, and it detects seventy four
percent of all colon cancers and thirtyeight percent of all polyps, and it
needs to be done yearly. Butit is an accepted test for the average
risk screening patient, in other words, somebody with no significant risk factors for
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colon cancer, and that that's thevast majority of us. There's also the
FIT or multi targeted DNA test,which is also known. You've seen the
commercials for Colon Garden, and thatdetects blood as well as genetic materials shed
from polyps or cancer, and itdetects ninety three percent of cancers and fifty
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percent of polyps. And the testis done about every three years. Those
two tests, though, are goodtests. And you know, when you
consider the fact that only sixty fivepercent of the adult population is getting screened
for colon cancer, we need tomake some inroads. And these are accepted
tests for the average risk screening.Now this fly in space when you talk,
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when you talk about cells discharging materials, are you a fan of the
Galleria gallery tests, the blood teststhat that check Yeah, cancers a numbers.
It is a controversial topic. Itis not being embraced currently for routine
colorectal cancer screening. Right, doesn'treplace it. I'm just wondering if for
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you know, as a general test, Yeah, as a general test,
I think it's it's not ready forprime time quite frankly, right, okay.
And then the last question, whichwhich is probably the most important for
people who are listening, At whatage for men and women should a regular
colonoscopy? The real deal first betaken. I know that I've lowered that
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age substantially over the last few years. Yeah, we did, in part
because we're seeing this increased risk ofcolon cancer and younger folks. So forty
five is the new fifty, aswe say here at the Keith god Healthcare
And so okay, last question,at what age can people dispense with this
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test? Was? I know thatwith you know, prostate cancer amongst men,
there's some rule of thought that ifyou get it so late in life,
you'll never die for the prostate cancer, You'll die from something else.
Is there an age after which colonoscopiesreally are not worth the aggravation? So
a debated topic, and I thinkan important one. The federal government has
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basically come out and said that thosepatients older than seventy five years of age
probably do not need screening colonoscopy.But I would caution that recommendation and really
say that we want to look atphysiologic age, and Dan, I think
you're well aware of the fact thatthere are many eighty five year olds who
are what you would look at himand say, geez, you look to
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be about seventy. So I thinkit's a discussion worth having with your primary
care physician or your gastronrologists and determiningthat. But the Feds, the FEDS
really have come up with with seventyfive years of age. All right,
Well, look, I really enjoyedthis conversation. You were well prepared,
well prepped. It's something that Ihave been an interest in and I just
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want to thank you for joining usand maybe we can do it again.
We don't have to wait for anotheryear to get back to colon Cancer month.
But let's let's keep on top ofthis because I think it was a
lot of good information well that youdispensed tonight. Thank you very much,
doctor. Right, Well, mypleasure, take care by talk to you
soon. Good night. When weget back were we talk about a different
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type of life experience, and thatis Art's empowering life. All very positive
back on Nightside, which is righthere on WBC ten thirty on your AM
dial. I want to remind you. My name is Dan Ray'm the host
of Nightside. Back on Nightside rightafter this. You're on Nightside with Dan
Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. Delighted to introduce Paul Tingley. He's
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the program coordinator about a series downon the Cape called a Beauty, Truth
and Faith in the Arts. It'sworkshops from empowering Arts empowering Life. Welcome,
Paul. Are you with the newPerforming Arts Center in Brewster, Mass
Correct, Yes, yes, thanksfor thanks for having me on, Dan,
and I heard your sort of plugfor the Italy trip. But I
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have like a spot down on CapeCod. If you haven't been able to
get from Boston to Cape Cod.We have stuff going on all the time.
I was in your building. Iwas in your building in Brewster last
July and enjoying the Jersey Boys.I believe it was the same building the
Jersey Boys program. Well, Idon't know, because we literally just opened
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in August, Dan, and wellthen over there in July. I'm sorry
that there is a there's there.There is a big playhouse in Brewster right
in one of the main roads,right right, right, right right,
and we're just down the roads fromthat on Okay, so I I mistake
mistake the building or mistook the building, but I have been to Brewster.
I knew Brewster very well. Tellus about the program that you're running,
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this this series Beauty, Truth andFaith in the Art. Yeah, well,
let me tell you a little bit. We opened in August and we
decided we really wanted this building tobe for the whole community and we wanted
to provide it's with the nonprofit groupArts Empowering Life, and its mission statement
is really to provide education, inspirationfor arts for musicians of all ages.
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Really it's empowering the human spirit.And so we provide monthly lectures. We've
had people come in and they've talkedabout We had Susan Rodgers come from the
Berkeley School and she did a fascinatingtalk about what the music you listened to
says about you. We have virtuosicperformers on Baroque period instruments come in.
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We had doctoral performers from the EastmanSchool of Music and this coming Saturday.
If you're a low brass player,if you play the trombone, if you
play the tube, or if youplay the baritone horn, we have Mark
Kellogg, who's a professor of LowerBrats at the Eastman School of Music in
Rochester. He's going to do aworkshop from ten to twelve in the morning.
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You can bring your horn, oryou can just come to watch him
work with people. This is Iassume it's open to the public. Is
there a charge involved? Nope,it's free. Well that's really really don't
bury Paul, remember it, neverbury the headline. Trust me. We
have sponsors, and if you wantto be a sponsor, you call me
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too. But we really wanted thepublic to be able to come to as
many things. It's so hard forpeople to get out now, and we
feel, especially with COVID, howcan we prove Paul come on. COVID's
over. I mean it's virtually over. People need to get out. They
can't stay. They can't stay coopedup in their homes forever. This is
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a call to action. I wanteverybody in the Cape to know about your
programming. I want to put itin the most positive ways possible here.
These are free programs. Ladies andgentlemen and good come on Saturdays, but
if you come in the middle ofthe week, you come anyways and say
I'd like a tour. Caul wewill give you a tour because we want
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you to see what we have andwe're offering in the summer, we have
a six week camp for kids.They come down. We're going to instruct
them in theater. We're going toinstruct them in percussion, winds and strings,
and we have instructors, professional instructorsfor all of the instrument groups.
And then we're all in the endof the summer in August, we're going
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to have an opera gallo. We'reand have five opera soloists, chorus,
orchestra, and it really is isgoing to be something that you will not
that will be a pay performance.But all our workshops come on Satdaturdays,
three thirty in the afternoon while theweather, you know, while it's still
dark. In the summer, we'llprobably do seven thirty programs so we don't
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have to you don't have to getoff the beach early. Come seven thirty
on Saturday nights and we will havesomething going on. So tell us where
you're located, and I know you'rein Brewster, mass give us an address
or something so that people on thecape who I'm sure know all the back
roads of it get there. Itis ninety five Southern Eagle Cartway, and
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you hurt me correctly, I said, cartway. You know from the old
days, when you drive carts andyou feel like you're just going to go
down a back road. I alwayssay, when we have a band rehearsal,
keep going because there's going to begreat art made at the end of
that road. It's like the Playhouseand Brewster. You sort of don't realize
where you're going. All of asudden you're at a wonderful artistic hall day
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And is there a website that wecan point people to? And if you
have a website, share it withus so that people can find you on
the internet and perhaps we can inducethem to come over either one of the
bridges get and find their way toBrewster. Absolute it's only half an hour
over the bridge. And our websiteis Performing Arts Center Capecod dot org.
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Again, that's Performing Arts Center,Capecod dot org. And we are really
a part of the Arts Empowering LifeFoundations nonprofit foundation worked with youth and folks
of all ages for many, manydecades. Actually, now we're really you
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don't sound that old, Paul.I want you to know you do not
sound that old. I am notthat old. Good, but Paul,
I appreciate you joining us. Soundslike a great program. Lots of activities
and folks need to jump on whetheryou're on the cape or off and look
around. I mean, this isa wonderful Saturday afternoon gig for free and
then you go get to a greatrestaurant and make a day of it.
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Paul, thank you so much forhaving joined us. I'm glad to know
that the arts are alive and wellin Brewster. We had a great time
at that other location in Brewster.Maybe Brewster is going to become kind of
a bohemian center for artists, artistsand singers and everybody. This this would
be great. It would add areal new new texture to Brewster, which
is a great part. Absolutely absolutely, Hey, Paul, we'll talk to
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him. Appreciate it. Good,Thanks Dan Sair night we come back.
I want to talk about a differenttop top type of art. Okay,
if you have ever watched and I'mnot sure if it's on Netflix, but
you know, you talk into youryour television Saturday as I put on Gairy
Girls. I'm a huge Dairy Girlsfan. It is one of the most
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hilarious they're like twenty thirty twenty fiveminute little little vignettes out of Northern Ireland,
and we're going to talk with WVCNews Radios Emma Friedman, who knows
a lot about but I know alot about it. And we're gonna laugh
in this next segment with Emma Friedmantalking about Gary Girls hilarious. Back on
Nightside. This is WBC ten thirtyon your AMD. My name is Dan
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Ray, and this is Nightside.We're here every night from eight until midnight,
and later on tonight we'll be talkingabout the dangers of lime disease with
doctor Alfred Miller, who I thinkis the simply the best doctor who can
talk about not only the cause,false positives, the cures, what happens
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if you still have lime disease inyour system. That is on at beginning
at ten o'clock. We got alot to do between now at midnight,
so stay with us, enjoy theride. Coming back on Nightside, It's
Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's newsradio, where we are approaching Saint Patrick's
Day and for those of you whohaven't started to celebrate yet, we're going
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to put you in the mood withme WBZ news radio reporter Emma Friedman one
of the nicest people in our newsroom. Emma, how are you tonight?
That's quite the introduction. Hi,I'm good. Are you well? It
is? It's a low bar onlykidding. No, I've met Emma only
a couple of times, Agains Iworked remotely, and she is really a
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nice person. I wish everybody inthe world was as nice and kind and
as helpful as Emma. So Emma, you, I guess filed a piece
today on there's a Dairy Girls popup bar opening in just for the weekend.
I want you to know you weretalking to probably one of the biggest
Dairy Girl fans in America. Okay, now you know, I'm Irish American
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and I'm a dual citizen. Ihave an Irish I have an Irish citizen
as well as a US citizen.That's the truth. And I love Dairy
Girls. I think it's hysterical.I've watched them all. I wish they
were the more. Are you abig fan of Dairy Girls as well?
I hope. I am a bigfan of Dairy Girls. I have also
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seen every episode multiple times. Imean, it's just such a hilarious,
witty show. I mean it justfollows those like sixteen year old girls in
what is it? It's the ninetiesand Dairy Northern Ireland. I mean it's
just so funny and yeah, sobasically there's a pop up bar, well,
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pop up bar. Mean, it'sbasically going to try to sort of
imitate what a bar. I've beenin Derry or the English call it Londonderry
and the Irish call it Derry backin the early eighties working for television.
It's the only time that I stayedat a hotel which was surrounded by barb
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wire, which is the truth.Oh yeah, that was the time when
you had the IRA bombers and youhad the provisionals and the Orange men.
I mean it was like a warzone and it is settled down incredibly.
Uh and the Dairy Girls are theit's the funniest I watch it. I'm
not sure if it's on Netflix.I just you know, hit the button,
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the microphone button on both and say, Dairy Girls, is it?
Do you know? Off heand whatis it Netflix? I beliflix. Yeah,
And the segments are only like abouttwenty two twenty three minutes long and
they're they're going to a Catholic schoolin Derry, uh, Northern Ireland.
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Uh. And there's a nun who'sa very famous hueticedic English actress. I
don't know her name, but Ithink she was my my, my principal
in grammar school. Yes, SisterMichael is her name in the show.
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But yes, she's absolutely hilarious.I mean it sounds very very cool.
So I met the other day withthe bar manager, august Alino over at
the Boston Charles Hotel. It's inCambridge in Harvard Square. Sure, and
they normally have the Noir Bar,which is kind of like this chic late
night lounge bar. And they said, exactly what you were talking about.
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They're transforming it into an old Irishbar. They're even gonna have photos like
family photos framed around the bar ofthe girls from the show. And every
menu item, well, they're gonnahave their normal menu as well as this
like specialty cocktail and food menu withand I think you will get a kick
out of these names. Aaron's Diaryis one of the drinks. Jenny Joyce's
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party Sprits, which you know she'syeah, the English lad who I think
might be my favorite character. Yes, he's airy Mann or english Man,
a cousin of one of the girls, and he's always he's always get getting
criticized by everybody. It's such great, great talents. Which of which of
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the episodes, if you can pickone out, was your favorite? Oh
my gosh, that's oh, Iknow exactly what it is. Actually the
there's a very funny episode where themain character, Aaron, she thinks that
her her her dog passed away,and she sees this dog that looks just
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like the dog, like running downthe street and it ends up like urinating
in a church on statue of yes, and but it's it's it's so funny.
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They basically think that these girls haveyou know that they've seen the statue
cry real tears and like these religiouspeople in a miracle. Absolutely, we're
always looking for miracles. If you'reIrish, you're always looking for a miracle.
Trust me, I spent my lifelooking for miracles. But it's very
funny. The one I like iswhen they I guess they're trying to get
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to some concert somewhere and they myparents need them to go, and they
were hitchhiking and they ran into inIreland, as in many European countries,
there's a lot of Eastern Europeans whohave come. You call them tinkers or
gypsies, but those terms have sortof come out, gone out of style,
and now the politically correct term isthe wanderers. They run into the
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wanderers. That's a funny bit.And I'm trying to think, who is
the uncle in the show who justgoes on. You ask him any question,
he just talks. If you're Irish, everyone has has an uncle like
that. As a matter of fact, my nephews think I'm that uncle.
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Oh gosh, what's his name?I know Grandpa Joe is a big character
who has the most dry sense ofhumor. Oh uncle, column, Uncle
Column, absolutely, and they couldask him about anything, and it's one
thought leads to a next. It'slike a string of totally independent thoughts that
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are somehow connected in his mind.They do not make any sense. They
are non secretoryelm Well, I don'tknow about that. I know most Irish
families. Most Irish families do,and it's it's just just so much fun.
They they had gone dark and thenI think last year they came back
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with another series and and and Idon't know if if if these girls have
sort of these young women have agedout as as as teenage girls. It's
just too they could do. Theycould do thousand more of these and I
would watch everyone. Yeah, well, it's kind of funny. I learned
recently that the girls in the show, I mean, they're supposed to be
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playing sixteen year olds that are inhigh school. And like the actress who
plays Claire on the show, whokind of the neurotic, you know character,
she's thirty seven in real life.Wow. Wow, that stuns me.
That stun me. Hey, youknow what, they play them so
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perfectly. Yeah, they really do. And I wish there was more.
It's sort of the two shows thatI really like, and there's there's now
finally some new Curb Your Enthusiasms.I love Curb Your Enthusiasm and I love
Dairy Girls. I can I canwile away a lot of weekend time watching
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those twenty five minute it's so beautifulbecause even if if it's not a complete
per ten, even if it's aneight, it's not twenty or twenty five
minutes wasted time. Because there's whetherit's Larry David or the dairy Girls.
It's humorous escapism. And for thoseof us in the business, and you're
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in the business, you know there'sa lot of pressure during the week and
when you're when you're on the clocktrying to get your stories filed, me
trying to get my guests and getmy show in order along with my producer,
Lady Lightning Marita. But if youget some downtime, it is complete
escapism. That's what I love aboutit. Yeah, I mean it truly
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is. It's just such a goodshow to to put on in the background.
I mean, you can I putit on while I'm watching dinner,
while I'm making dinner, all thetime. I mean, this pop up
should be I mean super cool aswell. Really getting to experience that.
It was funny when I met withthe bar manager. He's such a big
fan of the show. He wastrying to just come up with some sort
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of Saint Patrick's State theme, andit was the first thing he thought of.
Does he happen to be Irish?I know you might have mentioned his
name, but I'm just curious.He is he from the old sod As
we say, I do not thinkso. His name is Augusta Lino,
Okay, I would think not.I've never I missed the name went right
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by me the first time. Buthe's still a fan of the show.
And that's what's great about it.Everyone. You don't have to be irish
to like Derry Girls, and youdon't have to be, you know,
neurotic as as Larry David portrays.To enjoy curb your enthusiasm, you have
to be willing to relax and actuallysmile and let your mind drift off and
enjoy the shows. Emma, thanksso much for joining me, first time
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joining me. I want you tocome back more often. Okay, well,
thank you. It's been fun.Yeah, the popping song till the
end of whenever they close on SaintPatrick's Day, so there is still time.
And remember one thing, a littlebit of advice here, make sure
you put in for the overtime.Okay, don't tell them I told you
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that, Thanks Emma. Doctor.Soon we come back, we're going to
talk about something which we have nevertalked about before, and that is animal
behavior during a total solar eclipse.There will be a total solar eclipse in
parts of New England and in allof New England. It's going to be
pretty significant solar eclipses we learned abouta week ago, but now NASA.
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NASA has said that animals act weirdlyduring an eclipse, and they're asking you
to kind of monitor the behavior.See what your dog, or your cat,
or your your Boa constrictor or yourparakeet does during the eclipse. We'll
get it all explained on the otherside of this quick break on Nightside.
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It's Nightside, Boston's news radio.Well within a month, in early April,
New England is going to be havea really a front row seats seat
to depending upon where you are inNew England, by the way, to
a total solar eclipse. Everyone inNew England is going to see a pretty
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good solar eclipse with me? Isdoctor Adam Heartstone Rose, Doctor Heartstone Rose,
How are you, sir? Iagree? Are you? I miss
that? You? Okay? Yeah, okay, you came across. I
just want to make sure your audiois all set. So the solar eclipse
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is in April eighth, Yes,it's uh And it starts in Mexico and
goes up all the way through morethan a dozen states and then into Canada.
Yeah, it cuts right through apretty good chunk of New England.
I believe, you know, thethere's a line that you're going to get
the perfect solar eclipse, but Iassume everywhere here in New England on either
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side. I believe the line kindof cuts through Upstate New York, Vermont,
New Hampshire, Northern New Hampshire,in Maine. If I'm correct,
this eclipse is even bigger than theone that happened in twenty seventeen. So
even if you're not exactly on thepath, you're going to have a pretty
good shot at a pretty substantial solareclipse. Okay, so now what is
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the deal here? Apparently NASA believesthat animals have been acting weirdly during eclipses.
I can understand. I mean,I get it. I know what
it's all about. If I'm ananimal, I haven't had any astronomy classes
in animal school, and all ofa sudden, I'm going to be thinking,
what's going on here? This couldbe the end of the world,
right, Yeah, that we reallyknow very little about what animals do.
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There's only been a very few studies. In fact, there was a really
cool one about a solar eclipse thathappened in New England. Almost one hundred
years ago, and that was likethe most comprehensive study ever of animal behavior
during a solar eclipse. And thenwe did a different study in twenty seventeen
and studied over a dozen species ofanimals and watched their reaction. So give
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us a sense of what people herein New England might if their animals start
to act weirdly. It's really normal. What are the animals by, you
know, by the type of animaldogs, cats, I mean cats probably
are going to be bored and they'lldo nothing. That's what cats do.
But that's a Joke's doctor, tellus what some of the animals might might
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likely how they might likely react.A lot of the animals did nothing.
So, for instance, some ofthe bears that we were watching, they
couldn't care less. The bears didn'tdidn't change at all. But about three
quarters of the animals did do interestingthings. So most of those animals started
behaving as if it was evening time, so they started going into their nighttime
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routine like it was like the world'sfastest sunset and then darkness and then the
world's fastest sunrise, all within aperiod of a few minutes. So if
you have a dog, that expectsdinner at a certain time. You know,
when that eclipse is coming through inthe mid afternoon, you know,
be prepared for your dog to kindof wonder what's going on. Okay,
But in terms, it's all ofthat seems to be pretty normal behavior.
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I mean, I might, actually, to be honest with you, say
to my wife, if the eclipseis for, what time's dinner? I
mean, trust me, where isdinner? Actually we're we've been time zones.
Now we're on daylight saving time already. Anything to do here, though,
as we all the animals that you'vestudied, which had the strangest response,
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I mean, were there any wholiterally, like you know, took
their little paws and covered their eyesor something. I mean, I'm looking
for something that was that people can't. Yeah, so a lot of animals.
So although most like behaved as ifit was it was nighttime, almost
like almost the same number of animalsdid some kind of behavior that we thought
was related to anxiety, so likethey were kind of upset by the whole
experience. And so one of thecraziest ones is giraffe at the zoo started
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running around, which is a veryrare behavior for giraffe. So they were
running around very upset. But that'snot the weirdest behavior. The strangest behavior
that we saw we were watching Galapagostortoises, which basically have like the personality
of like a large rock. Normallythey're very inactive animals. Yeah. As
totality, yeah, exactly. Astotality built, they started moving around quite
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a bit, which was pretty coolin and of itself. And then just
at the peak of totality, theystarted mating. We have no idea but
why, but they literally started breedingright in front of us. So that
was pretty suspensive. Maybe they thoughtthe world was ending in Yeah, like
it's a perfectly reasonable responsive. Butif you think everything's going over, that's
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that's reasonable. Absolutely. So therewas a big study one hundred years ago,
and then you did a study andyou said, in twenty seventeen,
were there any identical actions that wereperceived amongst the same group of the animals
one hundred years apart or was thereany substantial difference in actions? So a
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little bit of both. So alot of what people can expect, including
in New England. If you canget out into nature or even into your
backyard, then watch what's happening withthe birds, for instance, So a
lot of people wrote that the birdswere becoming more active, like flying towards
their roofs. Other people reported thatbirds were becoming less active. And actually
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during in that study, some peoplereported that the birds fell out of the
sky. I don't think that that'strue, but that's actually been in the
record. So if any of youguys see that up in New England,
definitely let us know. Yeah,certainly, we certainly will. You know,
I had an interesting experience. Inever realized that turkeys sleep in trees.
I'm sure you know this stuff.Uh. And I was on a
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cell phone several years ago and hekept hearing a turkey. Where I live,
we have we have turkeys, andI couldn't tell where the sound the
turkey was coming from. And it'snot like we have one hundred turkeys.
We every every you know, everysummer, a few turkeys kind of float
through. So animals are smart.I found out from someone that the recent
turkeys stay in the trees. Wealso have coyotes, and the turkeys are
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not gonna sleep on the ground withcoyotes around. So animals are pretty smart,
probably smarter than most humans. Isuspect because you know, they they
have been able to survive all thistime without much of what we consider the
modern conveniences, if you will,and this will be interesting to watch and
see. What about last question?Because I'm I love dogs, okay,
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and most of my friends have adog. What are the dogs? You
said, are mostly gonna gonna expectdinner time, maybe dinners a little early.
That's that's a difficult dog reaction,I guess. Well, actually,
so dogs are an interesting case.We did a preliminary study during the annular
eclipse that happened just this past October. So a total solar eclipse, the
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sun is gone, but in anannular eclipse there' that is what we call
a ring of fire, and soit's still very exciting. And in that
during that eclipse, we sent outa survey and we got two hundred responses,
and most of the people who werewatching animals sent us responses about what
their dogs were doing. And itwas really interesting. We actually got a
significant, like a scientifically significant resultthat the closer people were to totality,
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the more likely it was that theyreported a reaction from their dogs. But
the really interesting part was that abouthalf of those people that thought their dog
had a reaction, they said thattheir dogs started howling and you know,
becoming very vocal, and the otherhalf said that their dogs stopped howling and
got very quiet. So we don'texactly know like which way this one's going
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to go, and it could verywell go both forrection, but a lot
of people thought that their dog didsomething. When it's over, I don't
know. How how long is it? Last question? How long will it
take you to accumulate the dat It'sgoing to take a while, I assume,
right, Yeah, thousands of responsesbecause we're having people all along the
pathway and people who are outside ofthe pathway participate in our studies. So
it's called solar eclipse Safari and youcan find a solar eclipse Safari dot org,
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and anybody can collect data for usand send it in and after a
few weeks we'll be able to tocrunch the numbers and we can let you
know what we find. Well,give us that, give us that website
one more time, Safari dot org, solar Safari dot Orgari Safari dot org.
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Okay, your phone, your phonehas broken up on me twice there,
so try it one more time.Solar eclipse Safari dot org. That's
your fine. Okay, Solar eclipseSafari dot org. Fine that anyone can
participate. Doctor Adam Heartstone Rose loveto have you back when you get your
final statistics and we can have somefun with that. Okay, the middle
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of apro and we'll see what happened. I gotta get your better phone next
time too. You you tend tobreak up on us. We have the
nine o'clock News coming up, andthen right after we're going to talk about
a study that says about twenty fivepercent of the people in the Greater Boston
area who between twenty and thirty don'texpect to be here five years from now.
Oh they're going to be living,don't get me wrong, but they're
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going to physically relocate or they planto physically relocate. The question will be why
It's nice eyes, Dan Ray,I'm dull you Boston's News Radio. Thank
you very much to Cole. Myname is Dan Ray, host of Nightside.
As you might have been able toconclude from Nicole's remarks, I'm here
every Monday through Friday night from eightuntil midnight. Rob Brooks's back in command
Control Rooms Central, where he willclear all of your phone calls in the
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nine o'clock hour. Because the firsthour we devote to four subjects. They
may not be the most newsworthy subjects, or in some cases they are very
newsworthy. They may be of culturalinterest, as we have at least one
or two to night to deal withculture, and there's also one we're going
to talk about tonight about animal behaviorbehavior during a total solar eclipse. So
(00:45):
let's get right to it. Ourfirst guest is doctor Frederick Ryman, and
we're going to talk to him aboutMarch being colon cancer Awareness month. Apparently
incidents of this disease has been rightbeen rising for the last couple of decades.
Colo rectal cancer now the deadliest cancerfor men under the age of fifty
(01:06):
to second deadliest cancer among women inthe same age group. Doctor Rieman what
are we doing wrong that all ofa sudden the rates of colon cancer seem
to be going up? A Hi, Dan, great to be with you
and your listeners, and you're indeedcorrect. We've seen a significant increase in
colorectal cancer in those patients age fortyto forty nine in the last six years,
(01:30):
a fifteen percent increase in fact,And I think really the clues lie
to what we already know about coloncancer, and if you look at risk
factors, for instance, diet certainlyplays a huge role. You know,
fat red and processed meats, alow fiber diet, obesity rates or skyrocketing,
(01:52):
we've got more people really engaged ina sedentary lifestyle. And also alcohol
use. I know we'll often thinkabout that, we think about liver disease,
but it does increase your risk ofcolon cancer as well. And I
can't help but think too that thereare likely environmental factors which we're going to
learn more about the issue of nitratesand perhaps even PIFAs. I mean,
(02:15):
it's that's a I know of somewhatcontroversial topic, but I think that data
is forthcoming and I think more we'lllearn more here short, I heard I
heard your comment about nitrates. I'mnot exactly sure how nitrates would play.
And what was the second item thatyou mentioned, perhaps PIFAs. I have
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no idea what that is. Whydon't you explain with you? Yeah?
So, yeah, PIFAs are basicallysort of byproducts of plastic and there's been
some recent data, particularly regarding therisk of heart disease, in which these
have been associated with increased coronary arterydisease and plaqueformation. And we know that
these cause internal inflammation within the body, and it's plausible that these are also
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playing a role. I think theargument being that some of our food is
now contained more in plastic containing certainlycertainly indeed, and if you look as
well, you know, water suppliesare being certainly under scrutiny. We're seeing
that on Keith Cod left and right, and people are re examining that.
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I think if you had to lookat that list, I think obesity is
probably a huge factor. So letme ask you a little bit of a
challenging question. In the last twentyyears, the last thirty years, all
of us have been told what toeat, what not to eat. You
know, our parents had that starchand red meat diet. For in the
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fifties and sixties, it was roastbeef on Sunday and warmed over roast beef
on Monday, and roast beef hashon Tuesday. Now we have more people
who are vegan or or vegetarians orpescatarians. So you would think that,
particularly amongst that age group of peoplewho have come of age in the last
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twenty or so years, that colorectal cancer rates should be down if anything.
Never mind, Now this this bogwas my mind. It shouldn't have,
though, because if you look atobesity rates, they have increased significantly,
and you know that's that's a problem, and we know this is a
risk factor for colon cancer. Sodespite the fact that we've got a certain
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certain population at least out there whoare paying attention and perhaps not engaging in
a sedentary lifestyle. They're exercising ina regular basis, they're not smoking,
we've got a lot of folks whoaren't following that strategy. Okay, let's
let's go. Let's get down tothe nitty gritty here. Okay. Yeah,
first of all, anyone who hashad a colon oscoby and I've had
three or four of them in mylife. It's not a fun experience.
(04:55):
I mean, it's it's it's notlike going to the movies. And but
you got to do it. There'sno question you got to do it.
Now. I see a lot ofads on TV where they say, well,
you really don't. We have thishome test kit which will make it
easier. First of all, ona scale of zero to ten. If
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ten is the gold standard, whichis a full colonoscopy, where did these
test kits? Are they nines oreight or are they three or Four's?
Well, to give you some perspective, I think it's it's you got to
look at the data. So thereare two test kits. But I assume
you've looked at it. That's whyI'm asking you. God, Yeah,
no, I know, I know, and you know, And I think
it's it's important to tease this out. And it's a good question. There
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are two test kits. One isthe fecal imino chemical test, or the
FIT test. It detects blood inthe stool, and it detects seventy four
percent of all colon cancers and thirtyeight percent of all polyps, and it
needs to be done yearly. Butit is an accepted test for the average
risk screening patient, in other words, somebody with no significant risk factors for
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colon cancer, and that that's thevast majority of us. There's also the
FIT or multi targeted DNA test,which is also known. You've seen the
commercials for Colon Garden, and thatdetects blood as well as genetic materials shed
from polyps or cancer, and itdetects ninety three percent of cancers and fifty
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percent of polyps. And the testis done about every three years. Those
two tests, though, are goodtests. And you know, when you
consider the fact that only sixty fivepercent of the adult population is getting screened
for colon cancer, we need tomake some inroads. And these are accepted
tests for the average risk screening.Now this fly in space when you talk,
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when you talk about cells discharging materials, are you a fan of the
Galleria gallery tests, the blood teststhat that check Yeah, cancers a numbers.
It is a controversial topic. Itis not being embraced currently for routine
colorectal cancer screening. Right, doesn'treplace it. I'm just wondering if for
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you know, as a general test, Yeah, as a general test,
I think it's it's not ready forprime time quite frankly, right, okay.
And then the last question, whichwhich is probably the most important for
people who are listening, At whatage for men and women should a regular
colonoscopy? The real deal first betaken. I know that I've lowered that
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age substantially over the last few years. Yeah, we did, in part
because we're seeing this increased risk ofcolon cancer and younger folks. So forty
five is the new fifty, aswe say here at the Keith god Healthcare
And so okay, last question,at what age can people dispense with this
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test? Was? I know thatwith you know, prostate cancer amongst men,
there's some rule of thought that ifyou get it so late in life,
you'll never die for the prostate cancer, You'll die from something else.
Is there an age after which colonoscopiesreally are not worth the aggravation? So
a debated topic, and I thinkan important one. The federal government has
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basically come out and said that thosepatients older than seventy five years of age
probably do not need screening colonoscopy.But I would caution that recommendation and really
say that we want to look atphysiologic age, and Dan, I think
you're well aware of the fact thatthere are many eighty five year olds who
are what you would look at himand say, geez, you look to
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be about seventy. So I thinkit's a discussion worth having with your primary
care physician or your gastronrologists and determiningthat. But the Feds, the FEDS
really have come up with with seventyfive years of age. All right,
Well, look, I really enjoyedthis conversation. You were well prepared,
well prepped. It's something that Ihave been an interest in and I just
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want to thank you for joining usand maybe we can do it again.
We don't have to wait for anotheryear to get back to colon Cancer month.
But let's let's keep on top ofthis because I think it was a
lot of good information well that youdispensed tonight. Thank you very much,
doctor. Right, Well, mypleasure, take care by talk to you
soon. Good night. When weget back were we talk about a different
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type of life experience, and thatis Art's empowering life. All very positive
back on Nightside, which is righthere on WBC ten thirty on your AM
dial. I want to remind you. My name is Dan Ray'm the host
of Nightside. Back on Nightside rightafter this. You're on Nightside with Dan
Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. Delighted to introduce Paul Tingley. He's
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the program coordinator about a series downon the Cape called a Beauty, Truth
and Faith in the Arts. It'sworkshops from empowering Arts empowering Life. Welcome,
Paul. Are you with the newPerforming Arts Center in Brewster, Mass
Correct, Yes, yes, thanksfor thanks for having me on, Dan,
and I heard your sort of plugfor the Italy trip. But I
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have like a spot down on CapeCod. If you haven't been able to
get from Boston to Cape Cod.We have stuff going on all the time.
I was in your building. Iwas in your building in Brewster last
July and enjoying the Jersey Boys.I believe it was the same building the
Jersey Boys program. Well, Idon't know, because we literally just opened
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in August, Dan, and wellthen over there in July. I'm sorry
that there is a there's there.There is a big playhouse in Brewster right
in one of the main roads,right right, right, right right,
and we're just down the roads fromthat on Okay, so I I mistake
mistake the building or mistook the building, but I have been to Brewster.
I knew Brewster very well. Tellus about the program that you're running,
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this this series Beauty, Truth andFaith in the Art. Yeah, well,
let me tell you a little bit. We opened in August and we
decided we really wanted this building tobe for the whole community and we wanted
to provide it's with the nonprofit groupArts Empowering Life, and its mission statement
is really to provide education, inspirationfor arts for musicians of all ages.
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Really it's empowering the human spirit.And so we provide monthly lectures. We've
had people come in and they've talkedabout We had Susan Rodgers come from the
Berkeley School and she did a fascinatingtalk about what the music you listened to
says about you. We have virtuosicperformers on Baroque period instruments come in.
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We had doctoral performers from the EastmanSchool of Music and this coming Saturday.
If you're a low brass player,if you play the trombone, if you
play the tube, or if youplay the baritone horn, we have Mark
Kellogg, who's a professor of LowerBrats at the Eastman School of Music in
Rochester. He's going to do aworkshop from ten to twelve in the morning.
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You can bring your horn, oryou can just come to watch him
work with people. This is Iassume it's open to the public. Is
there a charge involved? Nope,it's free. Well that's really really don't
bury Paul, remember it, neverbury the headline. Trust me. We
have sponsors, and if you wantto be a sponsor, you call me
(12:37):
too. But we really wanted thepublic to be able to come to as
many things. It's so hard forpeople to get out now, and we
feel, especially with COVID, howcan we prove Paul come on. COVID's
over. I mean it's virtually over. People need to get out. They
can't stay. They can't stay coopedup in their homes forever. This is
(12:58):
a call to action. I wanteverybody in the Cape to know about your
programming. I want to put itin the most positive ways possible here.
These are free programs. Ladies andgentlemen and good come on Saturdays, but
if you come in the middle ofthe week, you come anyways and say
I'd like a tour. Caul wewill give you a tour because we want
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you to see what we have andwe're offering in the summer, we have
a six week camp for kids.They come down. We're going to instruct
them in theater. We're going toinstruct them in percussion, winds and strings,
and we have instructors, professional instructorsfor all of the instrument groups.
And then we're all in the endof the summer in August, we're going
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to have an opera gallo. We'reand have five opera soloists, chorus,
orchestra, and it really is isgoing to be something that you will not
that will be a pay performance.But all our workshops come on Satdaturdays,
three thirty in the afternoon while theweather, you know, while it's still
dark. In the summer, we'llprobably do seven thirty programs so we don't
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have to you don't have to getoff the beach early. Come seven thirty
on Saturday nights and we will havesomething going on. So tell us where
you're located, and I know you'rein Brewster, mass give us an address
or something so that people on thecape who I'm sure know all the back
roads of it get there. Itis ninety five Southern Eagle Cartway, and
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you hurt me correctly, I said, cartway. You know from the old
days, when you drive carts andyou feel like you're just going to go
down a back road. I alwayssay, when we have a band rehearsal,
keep going because there's going to begreat art made at the end of
that road. It's like the Playhouseand Brewster. You sort of don't realize
where you're going. All of asudden you're at a wonderful artistic hall day
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And is there a website that wecan point people to? And if you
have a website, share it withus so that people can find you on
the internet and perhaps we can inducethem to come over either one of the
bridges get and find their way toBrewster. Absolute it's only half an hour
over the bridge. And our websiteis Performing Arts Center Capecod dot org.
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Again, that's Performing Arts Center,Capecod dot org. And we are really
a part of the Arts Empowering LifeFoundations nonprofit foundation worked with youth and folks
of all ages for many, manydecades. Actually, now we're really you
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don't sound that old, Paul.I want you to know you do not
sound that old. I am notthat old. Good, but Paul,
I appreciate you joining us. Soundslike a great program. Lots of activities
and folks need to jump on whetheryou're on the cape or off and look
around. I mean, this isa wonderful Saturday afternoon gig for free and
then you go get to a greatrestaurant and make a day of it.
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Paul, thank you so much forhaving joined us. I'm glad to know
that the arts are alive and wellin Brewster. We had a great time
at that other location in Brewster.Maybe Brewster is going to become kind of
a bohemian center for artists, artistsand singers and everybody. This this would
be great. It would add areal new new texture to Brewster, which
is a great part. Absolutely absolutely, Hey, Paul, we'll talk to
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him. Appreciate it. Good,Thanks Dan Sair night we come back.
I want to talk about a differenttop top type of art. Okay,
if you have ever watched and I'mnot sure if it's on Netflix, but
you know, you talk into youryour television Saturday as I put on Gairy
Girls. I'm a huge Dairy Girlsfan. It is one of the most
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hilarious they're like twenty thirty twenty fiveminute little little vignettes out of Northern Ireland,
and we're going to talk with WVCNews Radios Emma Friedman, who knows
a lot about but I know alot about it. And we're gonna laugh
in this next segment with Emma Friedmantalking about Gary Girls hilarious. Back on
Nightside. This is WBC ten thirtyon your AMD. My name is Dan
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Ray, and this is Nightside.We're here every night from eight until midnight,
and later on tonight we'll be talkingabout the dangers of lime disease with
doctor Alfred Miller, who I thinkis the simply the best doctor who can
talk about not only the cause,false positives, the cures, what happens
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if you still have lime disease inyour system. That is on at beginning
at ten o'clock. We got alot to do between now at midnight,
so stay with us, enjoy theride. Coming back on Nightside, It's
Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's newsradio, where we are approaching Saint Patrick's
Day and for those of you whohaven't started to celebrate yet, we're going
(17:57):
to put you in the mood withme WBZ news radio reporter Emma Friedman one
of the nicest people in our newsroom. Emma, how are you tonight?
That's quite the introduction. Hi,I'm good. Are you well? It
is? It's a low bar onlykidding. No, I've met Emma only
a couple of times, Agains Iworked remotely, and she is really a
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nice person. I wish everybody inthe world was as nice and kind and
as helpful as Emma. So Emma, you, I guess filed a piece
today on there's a Dairy Girls popup bar opening in just for the weekend.
I want you to know you weretalking to probably one of the biggest
Dairy Girl fans in America. Okay, now you know, I'm Irish American
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and I'm a dual citizen. Ihave an Irish I have an Irish citizen
as well as a US citizen.That's the truth. And I love Dairy
Girls. I think it's hysterical.I've watched them all. I wish they
were the more. Are you abig fan of Dairy Girls as well?
I hope. I am a bigfan of Dairy Girls. I have also
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seen every episode multiple times. Imean, it's just such a hilarious,
witty show. I mean it justfollows those like sixteen year old girls in
what is it? It's the ninetiesand Dairy Northern Ireland. I mean it's
just so funny and yeah, sobasically there's a pop up bar, well,
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pop up bar. Mean, it'sbasically going to try to sort of
imitate what a bar. I've beenin Derry or the English call it Londonderry
and the Irish call it Derry backin the early eighties working for television.
It's the only time that I stayedat a hotel which was surrounded by barb
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wire, which is the truth.Oh yeah, that was the time when
you had the IRA bombers and youhad the provisionals and the Orange men.
I mean it was like a warzone and it is settled down incredibly.
Uh and the Dairy Girls are theit's the funniest I watch it. I'm
not sure if it's on Netflix.I just you know, hit the button,
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the microphone button on both and say, Dairy Girls, is it?
Do you know? Off heand whatis it Netflix? I beliflix. Yeah,
And the segments are only like abouttwenty two twenty three minutes long and
they're they're going to a Catholic schoolin Derry, uh, Northern Ireland.
(20:30):
Uh. And there's a nun who'sa very famous hueticedic English actress. I
don't know her name, but Ithink she was my my, my principal
in grammar school. Yes, SisterMichael is her name in the show.
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But yes, she's absolutely hilarious.I mean it sounds very very cool.
So I met the other day withthe bar manager, august Alino over at
the Boston Charles Hotel. It's inCambridge in Harvard Square. Sure, and
they normally have the Noir Bar,which is kind of like this chic late
night lounge bar. And they said, exactly what you were talking about.
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They're transforming it into an old Irishbar. They're even gonna have photos like
family photos framed around the bar ofthe girls from the show. And every
menu item, well, they're gonnahave their normal menu as well as this
like specialty cocktail and food menu withand I think you will get a kick
out of these names. Aaron's Diaryis one of the drinks. Jenny Joyce's
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party Sprits, which you know she'syeah, the English lad who I think
might be my favorite character. Yes, he's airy Mann or english Man,
a cousin of one of the girls, and he's always he's always get getting
criticized by everybody. It's such great, great talents. Which of which of
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the episodes, if you can pickone out, was your favorite? Oh
my gosh, that's oh, Iknow exactly what it is. Actually the
there's a very funny episode where themain character, Aaron, she thinks that
her her her dog passed away,and she sees this dog that looks just
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like the dog, like running downthe street and it ends up like urinating
in a church on statue of yes, and but it's it's it's so funny.
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They basically think that these girls haveyou know that they've seen the statue
cry real tears and like these religiouspeople in a miracle. Absolutely, we're
always looking for miracles. If you'reIrish, you're always looking for a miracle.
Trust me, I spent my lifelooking for miracles. But it's very
funny. The one I like iswhen they I guess they're trying to get
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to some concert somewhere and they myparents need them to go, and they
were hitchhiking and they ran into inIreland, as in many European countries,
there's a lot of Eastern Europeans whohave come. You call them tinkers or
gypsies, but those terms have sortof come out, gone out of style,
and now the politically correct term isthe wanderers. They run into the
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wanderers. That's a funny bit.And I'm trying to think, who is
the uncle in the show who justgoes on. You ask him any question,
he just talks. If you're Irish, everyone has has an uncle like
that. As a matter of fact, my nephews think I'm that uncle.
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Oh gosh, what's his name?I know Grandpa Joe is a big character
who has the most dry sense ofhumor. Oh uncle, column, Uncle
Column, absolutely, and they couldask him about anything, and it's one
thought leads to a next. It'slike a string of totally independent thoughts that
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are somehow connected in his mind.They do not make any sense. They
are non secretoryelm Well, I don'tknow about that. I know most Irish
families. Most Irish families do,and it's it's just just so much fun.
They they had gone dark and thenI think last year they came back
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with another series and and and Idon't know if if if these girls have
sort of these young women have agedout as as as teenage girls. It's
just too they could do. Theycould do thousand more of these and I
would watch everyone. Yeah, well, it's kind of funny. I learned
recently that the girls in the show, I mean, they're supposed to be
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playing sixteen year olds that are inhigh school. And like the actress who
plays Claire on the show, whokind of the neurotic, you know character,
she's thirty seven in real life.Wow. Wow, that stuns me.
That stun me. Hey, youknow what, they play them so
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perfectly. Yeah, they really do. And I wish there was more.
It's sort of the two shows thatI really like, and there's there's now
finally some new Curb Your Enthusiasms.I love Curb Your Enthusiasm and I love
Dairy Girls. I can I canwile away a lot of weekend time watching
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those twenty five minute it's so beautifulbecause even if if it's not a complete
per ten, even if it's aneight, it's not twenty or twenty five
minutes wasted time. Because there's whetherit's Larry David or the dairy Girls.
It's humorous escapism. And for thoseof us in the business, and you're
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in the business, you know there'sa lot of pressure during the week and
when you're when you're on the clocktrying to get your stories filed, me
trying to get my guests and getmy show in order along with my producer,
Lady Lightning Marita. But if youget some downtime, it is complete
escapism. That's what I love aboutit. Yeah, I mean it truly
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is. It's just such a goodshow to to put on in the background.
I mean, you can I putit on while I'm watching dinner,
while I'm making dinner, all thetime. I mean, this pop up
should be I mean super cool aswell. Really getting to experience that.
It was funny when I met withthe bar manager. He's such a big
fan of the show. He wastrying to just come up with some sort
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of Saint Patrick's State theme, andit was the first thing he thought of.
Does he happen to be Irish?I know you might have mentioned his
name, but I'm just curious.He is he from the old sod As
we say, I do not thinkso. His name is Augusta Lino,
Okay, I would think not.I've never I missed the name went right
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by me the first time. Buthe's still a fan of the show.
And that's what's great about it.Everyone. You don't have to be irish
to like Derry Girls, and youdon't have to be, you know,
neurotic as as Larry David portrays.To enjoy curb your enthusiasm, you have
to be willing to relax and actuallysmile and let your mind drift off and
enjoy the shows. Emma, thanksso much for joining me, first time
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joining me. I want you tocome back more often. Okay, well,
thank you. It's been fun.Yeah, the popping song till the
end of whenever they close on SaintPatrick's Day, so there is still time.
And remember one thing, a littlebit of advice here, make sure
you put in for the overtime.Okay, don't tell them I told you
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that, Thanks Emma. Doctor.Soon we come back, we're going to
talk about something which we have nevertalked about before, and that is animal
behavior during a total solar eclipse.There will be a total solar eclipse in
parts of New England and in allof New England. It's going to be
pretty significant solar eclipses we learned abouta week ago, but now NASA.
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NASA has said that animals act weirdlyduring an eclipse, and they're asking you
to kind of monitor the behavior.See what your dog, or your cat,
or your your Boa constrictor or yourparakeet does during the eclipse. We'll
get it all explained on the otherside of this quick break on Nightside.
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It's Nightside, Boston's news radio.Well within a month, in early April,
New England is going to be havea really a front row seats seat
to depending upon where you are inNew England, by the way, to
a total solar eclipse. Everyone inNew England is going to see a pretty
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good solar eclipse with me? Isdoctor Adam Heartstone Rose, Doctor Heartstone Rose,
How are you, sir? Iagree? Are you? I miss
that? You? Okay? Yeah, okay, you came across. I
just want to make sure your audiois all set. So the solar eclipse
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is in April eighth, Yes,it's uh And it starts in Mexico and
goes up all the way through morethan a dozen states and then into Canada.
Yeah, it cuts right through apretty good chunk of New England.
I believe, you know, thethere's a line that you're going to get
the perfect solar eclipse, but Iassume everywhere here in New England on either
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side. I believe the line kindof cuts through Upstate New York, Vermont,
New Hampshire, Northern New Hampshire,in Maine. If I'm correct,
this eclipse is even bigger than theone that happened in twenty seventeen. So
even if you're not exactly on thepath, you're going to have a pretty
good shot at a pretty substantial solareclipse. Okay, so now what is
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the deal here? Apparently NASA believesthat animals have been acting weirdly during eclipses.
I can understand. I mean,I get it. I know what
it's all about. If I'm ananimal, I haven't had any astronomy classes
in animal school, and all ofa sudden, I'm going to be thinking,
what's going on here? This couldbe the end of the world,
right, Yeah, that we reallyknow very little about what animals do.
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There's only been a very few studies. In fact, there was a really
cool one about a solar eclipse thathappened in New England. Almost one hundred
years ago, and that was likethe most comprehensive study ever of animal behavior
during a solar eclipse. And thenwe did a different study in twenty seventeen
and studied over a dozen species ofanimals and watched their reaction. So give
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us a sense of what people herein New England might if their animals start
to act weirdly. It's really normal. What are the animals by, you
know, by the type of animaldogs, cats, I mean cats probably
are going to be bored and they'lldo nothing. That's what cats do.
But that's a Joke's doctor, tellus what some of the animals might might
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likely how they might likely react.A lot of the animals did nothing.
So, for instance, some ofthe bears that we were watching, they
couldn't care less. The bears didn'tdidn't change at all. But about three
quarters of the animals did do interestingthings. So most of those animals started
behaving as if it was evening time, so they started going into their nighttime
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routine like it was like the world'sfastest sunset and then darkness and then the
world's fastest sunrise, all within aperiod of a few minutes. So if
you have a dog, that expectsdinner at a certain time. You know,
when that eclipse is coming through inthe mid afternoon, you know,
be prepared for your dog to kindof wonder what's going on. Okay,
But in terms, it's all ofthat seems to be pretty normal behavior.
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I mean, I might, actually, to be honest with you, say
to my wife, if the eclipseis for, what time's dinner? I
mean, trust me, where isdinner? Actually we're we've been time zones.
Now we're on daylight saving time already. Anything to do here, though,
as we all the animals that you'vestudied, which had the strangest response,
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I mean, were there any wholiterally, like you know, took
their little paws and covered their eyesor something. I mean, I'm looking
for something that was that people can't. Yeah, so a lot of animals.
So although most like behaved as ifit was it was nighttime, almost
like almost the same number of animalsdid some kind of behavior that we thought
was related to anxiety, so likethey were kind of upset by the whole
experience. And so one of thecraziest ones is giraffe at the zoo started
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running around, which is a veryrare behavior for giraffe. So they were
running around very upset. But that'snot the weirdest behavior. The strangest behavior
that we saw we were watching Galapagostortoises, which basically have like the personality
of like a large rock. Normallythey're very inactive animals. Yeah. As
totality, yeah, exactly. Astotality built, they started moving around quite
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a bit, which was pretty coolin and of itself. And then just
at the peak of totality, theystarted mating. We have no idea but
why, but they literally started breedingright in front of us. So that
was pretty suspensive. Maybe they thoughtthe world was ending in Yeah, like
it's a perfectly reasonable responsive. Butif you think everything's going over, that's
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that's reasonable. Absolutely. So therewas a big study one hundred years ago,
and then you did a study andyou said, in twenty seventeen,
were there any identical actions that wereperceived amongst the same group of the animals
one hundred years apart or was thereany substantial difference in actions? So a
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little bit of both. So alot of what people can expect, including
in New England. If you canget out into nature or even into your
backyard, then watch what's happening withthe birds, for instance, So a
lot of people wrote that the birdswere becoming more active, like flying towards
their roofs. Other people reported thatbirds were becoming less active. And actually
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during in that study, some peoplereported that the birds fell out of the
sky. I don't think that that'strue, but that's actually been in the
record. So if any of youguys see that up in New England,
definitely let us know. Yeah,certainly, we certainly will. You know,
I had an interesting experience. Inever realized that turkeys sleep in trees.
I'm sure you know this stuff.Uh. And I was on a
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cell phone several years ago and hekept hearing a turkey. Where I live,
we have we have turkeys, andI couldn't tell where the sound the
turkey was coming from. And it'snot like we have one hundred turkeys.
We every every you know, everysummer, a few turkeys kind of float
through. So animals are smart.I found out from someone that the recent
turkeys stay in the trees. Wealso have coyotes, and the turkeys are
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not gonna sleep on the ground withcoyotes around. So animals are pretty smart,
probably smarter than most humans. Isuspect because you know, they they
have been able to survive all thistime without much of what we consider the
modern conveniences, if you will,and this will be interesting to watch and
see. What about last question?Because I'm I love dogs, okay,
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and most of my friends have adog. What are the dogs? You
said, are mostly gonna gonna expectdinner time, maybe dinners a little early.
That's that's a difficult dog reaction,I guess. Well, actually,
so dogs are an interesting case.We did a preliminary study during the annular
eclipse that happened just this past October. So a total solar eclipse, the
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sun is gone, but in anannular eclipse there' that is what we call
a ring of fire, and soit's still very exciting. And in that
during that eclipse, we sent outa survey and we got two hundred responses,
and most of the people who werewatching animals sent us responses about what
their dogs were doing. And itwas really interesting. We actually got a
significant, like a scientifically significant resultthat the closer people were to totality,
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the more likely it was that theyreported a reaction from their dogs. But
the really interesting part was that abouthalf of those people that thought their dog
had a reaction, they said thattheir dogs started howling and you know,
becoming very vocal, and the otherhalf said that their dogs stopped howling and
got very quiet. So we don'texactly know like which way this one's going
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to go, and it could verywell go both forrection, but a lot
of people thought that their dog didsomething. When it's over, I don't
know. How how long is it? Last question? How long will it
take you to accumulate the dat It'sgoing to take a while, I assume,
right, Yeah, thousands of responsesbecause we're having people all along the
pathway and people who are outside ofthe pathway participate in our studies. So
it's called solar eclipse Safari and youcan find a solar eclipse Safari dot org,
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and anybody can collect data for usand send it in and after a
few weeks we'll be able to tocrunch the numbers and we can let you
know what we find. Well,give us that, give us that website
one more time, Safari dot org, solar Safari dot Orgari Safari dot org.
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Okay, your phone, your phonehas broken up on me twice there,
so try it one more time.Solar eclipse Safari dot org. That's
your fine. Okay, Solar eclipseSafari dot org. Fine that anyone can
participate. Doctor Adam Heartstone Rose loveto have you back when you get your
final statistics and we can have somefun with that. Okay, the middle
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of apro and we'll see what happened. I gotta get your better phone next
time too. You you tend tobreak up on us. We have the
nine o'clock News coming up, andthen right after we're going to talk about
a study that says about twenty fivepercent of the people in the Greater Boston
area who between twenty and thirty don'texpect to be here five years from now.
Oh they're going to be living,don't get me wrong, but they're
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going to physically relocate or they planto physically relocate. The question will be why
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