February 10, 2026 • 40 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
Penny's demise triggers rounding legislation for cash transactions
Guest: Colin Young – State House News reporter & Deputy Editor
Habitat for Humanity of Greater Lowell creates partnership with Minuteman Technical Institute to give students a project where they can gain tangible job skills, outside of the classroom at their build site in Concord, Massachusetts.
Guest: Sheilagh Carlisle – Executive Director of Habitat for Humanity of Greater Lowell
Mind Over Grind: How to Break Free When Work Hijacks Your Life
Guest: Dr. Guy Winch – licensed psychologist and author
Catherine O’Hara died from a pulmonary embolism. Cancer was the underlying cause. What you need to know about pulmonary embolisms and whether they are preventable…
Guest: Harrison Farber, MD, Pulmonologist and Director of the Pulmonary Embolism Response Team at Tufts Medical Center
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's nights time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's
new radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, believe it or not. We were just having
a great conversation about the Red Sox season with producer
Rob and associate producer Luke, who's in the control room tonight.
So that's the end of the baseball talk. We still
have to warn the Patriots. My name is Dan Ray.
We are here every Monday through Friday night. Well, we
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as Rob, my producer, and myself and Luke is here
tonight and he'll be here other nights as well, so
we got to work him into the into the line
up here and we'll be we'll be all set. We'll
be one hundred percent at that point, maybe even better.
My name again is Dan Ray. I'm the host of
the show, and we are here Monday through Friday from
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eight to midnight. We have a very interesting show coming
up tonight, a lot of breaking news and we're going
to keep you up to the to the minute on
what's going on with the suspension and the decommissioning of
the four Massachusetts State Police officers who have been indicted
for involuntary manslaughter in relations at the twenty twenty four
(01:09):
death of trainee Enrique Delgado Garcia. What a tragic, tragic story.
We will talk with one of the attorneys for the
Delgado Garcia family. There's also, as I'm sure most of
you know, a real break today in the disappearance. I
suspect the kidnapping, the abduction of Nancy Guthrie, the mom,
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the eighty four year old mom of NBC Today Show
host Savannah Guthrie. And this situation is going to move
quickly tonight and we will keep on top of it.
Robin Luke will work with me very closely on this,
and we have a lot of sound on both of
these stories. But before we get to those stories, we
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have four interesting guests to introduce you to briefly here
in our first we're going to start off with Colon Young,
who is a writer at the State House News Service,
and Colon has done a report on the demise of
the penny. Colon, I think I read somewhere that had
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cost him three cents to mint new pennies, or each
new penny, and that's where the problem was. They were
minting that little penny that all of us were so
used to we could buy penny candy with. It makes
me sad. What about you, Colon, that's right, Dan.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, at last account, back in November, when they stopped
minting the penny, it cost almost four pennies to make
one new one. And the Treasury said, you know, look
this just it isn't fiscally responsible. Or they said, it's
also not necessary to meet the need of commerce in
the United States in this day and age. And they said, look,
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a lot of people, a huge number of transactions now
don't involve cash, so we don't need to, you know,
worry ourselves with every single cent.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well, you know, I'm pretty old school, as you probably
would figure. I like the idea of cash, I really do.
Credit Cards are great. I'm getting used to credit cards now,
but all this other stuff Venmo and you're look, we've
just seeing a big crash for a bitcoin. I you know,
I worry about the so called cashlest society because I
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think that it opens all of us up to more
potential becoming victims of being hacked. You're younger than I am.
Can you buy into my concerns and all there are? No?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Oh, absolutely, I'm.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I don't use.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Cash a lot myself personally. Most every thing I pay
for with a card, these days, especially now that you
can just tap the card, you don't even have to
swipe it and punch in the pin.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Number and all of that.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
But I definitely can see your concerns, and I think
there's a large group of people who want maybe don't
have access to a bank in the same kind of way.
You know, when banks have minimum balance requirements and that
sort of thing, it can be hard for people to
keep money in a you know, say a checking account,
to use a debit card for all of their purchases.
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And for those people, as the penny goes away, and
as we run into these shortages now of the penny,
where businesses don't have enough pennies to make correct change
and all of that, people who do operate fully in
cash could be running into situations where the rules are
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a little bit different depending on where they shop. Maybe
one retailer treats pennies and change one way and another
retailer treats the consumer slightly differently in those transactions. So,
you know, as the penny goes away, people who rely
only on cash could find themselves in sort of prickier
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situations and situations where it's harder to know if they're
being taken advantage of.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, what I'm trying to say is that I think
most of us realize. First of all, if there are
people who cannot do not have enough money to have
a bank account, obviously it's going to be tough for
them to get a debit card. I get that, I
truly get that. But what my concern is that the
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more high tech we become, again, the Venmo accounts and
you're just you know, working with your computer, I just
think it's going to open up to a lot of
people getting ripped off in terms of the penny. I'll
bet you that. Now every every time someone uses cash,
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I assume that if you use a credit card, they'll
and you you purchased something for you know, twenty five
dollars and seventy six cents, they're gonna charge you twenty
five dollars and seventy six cents. They're not going to
up charge and charge you twenty six. But if you
go in and you buy something in a sore for
you know, nine dollars and ninety one cents, they're gonna
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charge you. They're going to always up charge. They're not
going to cut it back and say, oh, we'll charge you,
We'll give you a dimeback. They're gonna people are going
to start penny here, penny there eventually is going to
run into money.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
In my opinion, Oh absolutely, And that's that's exactly the
situation that a bill just filed at the state House
is trying to address. Uh, there's a similar bill at
the federal level in Congress that hasn't gone anywhere, but
of course that would would take care of this nationwide.
But in Massachusetts, that's exactly the situation that Rep. Tacki
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Chan from Quinsy is trying to avoid, where people aren't
sure exactly what the rules are. Is the business supposed
to round up and charge more? Should they round down
and charge less? So this build a tacky Chan has
filed tries to split the difference, and in some situations
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amounts would be rounded up. In some situations amounts would
be rounded down. But the idea is that this would
say a level playing field. So no matter how.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Described colin, how did they describe those situations. I mean,
like above below fifty cents, it's rounded down, and above
fifty cents it's rounded up. Something like that.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It gets even more granular than that.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The idea.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Right, good for everyone trying to tally up their total
as they've shot. But the idea is they would take
the total and if it ends in a and with
one cent, two cents, six cents, or seven cents, the
total would be rounded down to the nearest zero or five.
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So if you had a if you were making a
purchase that was three dollars and twenty two cents, that
would get rounded down to three dollars and twenty cents. Okay,
But if your total ends with a three, four, eight,
or nine, it would be rounded up, so three dollars
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and twenty eight cents becomes three dollars and thirty cents.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
My head's going to explode with this. At some point.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's happened.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I was in one of these overpriced ice cream parlors
I'm not going to mention the name a few months
ago with my grandson who's like three and a half
wanted ice cream. So of course, the ice creams that
you would normally pay I don't know, four box, four
five bucks or something like this, and this place is
like twelve box or something at piece. So even the
kiddy coone, you know it like twelve. There's no such
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thing as a kitty cone. So I go to pay
with a credit card. It was like twenty four box
with some tax et cetera. And they said, oh no,
we don't take credit cards. And I said, okay, I
got cash. So I went to give them some cash.
I said, now, we don't take cash from you. You
got to go and put your credit card in the
machine over there and take out some cash. Well, I
know what's going on here. Obviously they're scamming their customers
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to make them use the ATM and there. So I
I had to do that. But when I went to pay,
I wanted to give the person who had done the
ice cream cone like three four dollars tip, So I said,
do you take my cash for a tip? And of
course immediately, oh yeah, I'll take the cash, you know.
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And they were saying the reason they wouldn't take the
cash for me and I had to go to the
ATM it wasn't necessarily clean cash. I said, what are
you talking about? They said, well, your cash could have
germs on it. Needless to say, Colin, I have never
darkened the doorway of that ice cream shop. I can't,
no will I ever.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Used to be king.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Let me tell you something well, hopefully, hopefully it will
be Maybe a lot of businesses will start to say, hey,
if you're passing cash, you pay something under the table.
I don't know, I mean it, just.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Do deal with that.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
They have to pay these high credit card service fees, right,
every slipe of a credit card charge costs of business.
So there are places where you might get a little
discount if you're paying cash, but you might have to
bring exact change now, and.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
They will report all of that. The businesses will be
will report all of that down to the penny to
the government. I'm certain that, you know. But if the
government can mess it up, calling they can mess it up.
You know that there's like seventeen billion pennies floating around.
There's plenty of pennies floating around.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You have got some businesses hoarding them now, right, trying
to keep their own stash of them so they don't
have to run.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Anybody out here is saying, oh, look at this, I
got a twenty seventeen penny that's gonna be worth like
about a million dollars ten years from now. I'm putting
that baby away. It's in pristine condition. Dream On Colin
is always so enjoyed talking with it. Man. You you
actually explain things so well that even I can understand them.
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And if I can understand them, I know my audience
can understand them.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Oh it's my pleasure. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Dan, you bet you. We'll talk soon. By the way,
how could they get the State House News service? They can?
They can sign up for this, right, it's a freebee.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
It's not a freebie. A State House News Service is not.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
We do have a.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Free morning newsletter called master List.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
We'll give and that is free.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Give me.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Master List is m A S S E er list
dot com and you can go sign up there and
master List. The free newsletter does feature a good deal
of our reporting from state House News dot com and.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
In business parlems that's what's known as a loss leader.
People are gonna read your stuff of the matter. They're
going to realize what a great reporter you are and
what a great reporter you have on the reporters you
have in the staff, and then they'll sign up for it.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So that's we certainly hope.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So it's like getting him into the tent. Once you
get him into the tent, then you're all set a
great job. Call it thanks so much. Take care, bye
bye bye. When we come back on to talk about
a nice program up in Lowell, habit Tat for Humanity
of Greater law will CZ creating a partnership with the
Minuteman Technical Institute to give students a project they can
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gain tangible job skills by doing outside of the classroom.
Oh don't you think these kids are going to love
it being outside of the classroom on a build site
in Concord, Massachusetts. We'll talk with Shila Carlisle, the executive
director of Habitat for Humanity of Greater Lowell right after
this quick break on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Delighted to be joined by Sheila carl executive director of
Habitat for Humanity and Greater lull Shale and welcome to
Night's Side. How are you?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So you're in partnership Habitat with Humanity of Great Lol
as in partnership with the Minuteman Technical Institute. Is that
a high school or is that after high school program?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
It's a high school.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
It's a high school.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, great, Okay, So you're going to give students a
project where they're going to be able to gain some
tangible job skills, some experience outside of the classroom at
a build site in Conquered, mass Tell us about it.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yes, we're so excited to have their support on this project.
This project represents three single family homes that are being
built right now in Conquered It's a partnership with the town.
We've been very blessed for have for them to donate
some land to us and some funds, but we need
volunteers and actual support to build the houses. We have
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community members that come together that are helping build House
one and House three, but House too is in this
partnership with minute Man Tech and the students have taken
it on. They're supending this fall semester and now the
spring semester working on some framing, some electrical, some plumbing,
and we're just really excited to have their support to
create some affordable home ownership opportunities because we know Massachusetts
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is an expensive place to live.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
No doubt. So let me ask you, did they do
they go up there instead of going to school five
days a week or is it kind of a half
and half a situation of people to take people in
and rotate people out.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
That's right. They do have some classroom time, but they
do spend some days out on the job site as well,
and they have some lesson plans that our director of construction,
John Maslowski, has worked with the teacher. Mister Saint George
is their teacher, and they've partnered to figure out all
the different lesson plans along with building this, you know,
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this residential home. So the kids are getting some serious,
serious real world experience, really having that opportunity to see
what it's like being on the job site day in,
day out. Uh, they are students, so of course, you know,
our director of construction works with them to make sure that,
you know, everything is up to code and following all
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the right the right steps. But they're they're out there
getting excellent experience.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Now, do most of these students have they decided, Okay,
I want to be an electrician, I want to be
a plumber. Or are they getting an exposure to all
of the trades and then will make the decisions as
to what trade they might pursue after they graduate.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
That's a good question, you know, I'm not sure if
they I think they do have certain tracks I'd have
to ask that question of the school representative and see.
But I think they are getting great exposure across the
board to these different things as they go through the program.
And it is high school, so I think, you know,
they've got some opportunities and options ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm sure they. Let me tell you, I think that
people who graduate from vocational schools, whatever your technical schools,
whatever you want to call them, h and they've developed
the trade, whether it's again you know, electric heating, roofing, HVAC, plumbing,
all of the all of the trades, they will never
be without a job.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And they will always agree.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
They'll always earn well above the average income in Massachusetts.
Trying to get apart trying to get any of these
folks today the bills that I pay, the bills the
day that I get them. But it's like whoa, it's
it's yeah, pretty pretty interesting. Okay. So now the other question,
let's go to the other side of the coin. Who's
eligible for the homes? Have these homes already been spoken for?
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Or is there some sort of a lottery that you
guys are going to be running. What's going on there?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Great question. So right now we are still in the
family selection process for these homes. We are taking applications
in If people want to apply to a home, they
can go to low Habitat dot org slash home Ownership,
So we're accepting applicant I think through February twentieth March
fifth Ish will have a lottery. So it is a
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lottery system for the families who are eligible. One of
the neat things about Habitat is that these are homes
that folks they do have to be eligible. They have
to earn below eighty percent are immediate income, but they
have to actually purchase this home from Habitat. It's not
a free house. They have to purchase it through a mortgage.
And then one of the unique things about Habitat is
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they have to actually do some sweat equity hours, So
the families have to help build the home alongside those
minute Man tech students, alongside our other volunteers, and it
gives them great experience to really understand the inner workings
of their house by the time they purchase it from Habitat.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Okay, so I assume they have to either have a
net worth or annual income. Is it probably more an
annual income that you're deciding who is eligible.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Yeah, so they have to we have to abide by
all the same things that a bank. They have to
have the right debt to income ratio, the right credit score,
but they have to earn between thirty to eighty percent
area meeting income. And the way habitat works is we private.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So there's a what you tell me, there's a four
in the ceiling.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Correct? Yeah, And all the people we see apply because
Massachusetts is such an expensive place to live. These are
families that are you know, hard working, two working parents.
They just may not qualify for a home and conquered
because it's so.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And these three homes give us an idea about how
large the plots are. Are they half acre or lesser?
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
About? And each home is about sixteen to eighteen hundred
square feet. We have two three bedrooms and one four bedroom.
Each have two baths.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Say eighteen hundred is close to a half acre. Y yeah,
four thousand. Okay, this sounds great. So, folks who want
to apply Habitat for Humanity Lowe is that the.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Website loll yeah, lollhabitat dot org slash home ownership is
where they'll find all the information too.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Fine, and then realistically it's three homes you'll take. How
many families do you think we'll qualify? We talking about
twenty or thirty, or we talking about two hundred or
two thousand. What do you think?
Speaker 5 (19:18):
That's a good question. We had no idea when we
opened up this application process. To give you an example
of the last home we built in Bedford, mass we
had probably sixty families that applied. Once we went through
their applications and looked at their income, I think there
were about eleven that we got to the lottery, but
that's only for a single house.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
One out. Yeah, yeah, so that's okay. Hopefully there'll be
more and more homes than Habitat for Humanity, great organization.
I hate to do this to you, Shela. I love
to talk them with you. We don't script questions here
on Nightside, but that's all I do. I ask questions
that I hope people can identify with, and you instited
with them very well. And even the ones that you
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said you didn't have an answer for, that's a good
answer because it's an honest and truthful answer. We'll have
you back again, I promise, and keep us posted as
so maybe we'll have one of the winners come on
with you or something.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Okay, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Thanks Jayla Sheyla Carlisle of Habitat for Humanity of Greater Lull.
When we come back, do you believe that maybe work
has hijacked your life? I can understand that. We're going
to talk with a licensed psychologist and author, doctor Guy Winch,
and he's gonna winch us out of those feelings. Back
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on Nightside right after the news at the bottom of
the hour.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
It's Nightside with.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Boston's news radio broad Do most of us need our
next guest? Welcome back everyone. My name's Dan Ray, the
host of Nightside. I am joined now by doctor Guy Winch.
He's a licensed psychologist and author. He's written a new book,
mind Over. We're not talking about coffee here, folks. Mind Overgrind,
(21:04):
how to break free when work hijacks your life. I
can understand the problem, I don't understand the solution. Talk
to Winch. Welcome to Night's Side. I work from nine
o'clock in the morning on this show until midnight. Sometimes
they get a forty five minute break during the day,
but this is more than a full time job. Believe me,
(21:26):
it is more than a full time job. Welcome, how
are you, sir?
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I am well, and I'm glad with' toking because apparently
you need it.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I definitely do what. I have my own ideas about
how to sort of spend a little bit of downtime
during the day. But I honestly, honestly, I talk to
my producer. I'm on the here four hours of night,
five nights a week. I'm a solo talk show host,
and so we have to come up with the topics
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of the night the guests, and you're the guest that
I'm looking most forward to talk most forward to talking with.
So tell us how do we break free when work
hijacks our lives?
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Well, some people have to understand how we get hijacked,
and one of those ways are that when we get
home from work. You apparently really do. But when we
get home from work, we start to replay all the
upsetting and distressing events of the day when we're home.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Or when I get home from when when I'm home
from work, now I'm broadcasting remotely. Okay, when I get
up in the morning, my day starts. It starts slowly,
picks up momentum, we do some promotions during the day
and then I'm on the air from eight to midnight.
At midnight, I go to sleep, so I don't think
about the bad stuff during the day because I get
(22:46):
rid of that. But go ahead, I just wanted to
explain I have sort of a unique set of circumstances,
but I got to I gotta listen and learn from you.
Go right ahead, I'm listening. Good.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Yeah, Look, your circumstances are unique for two reasons. Any
that you work in midnight and be that you're able
to go to sleep right afterwards, great for you. Most
people would struggle in that circumstance because, you know, our
mind needs to kind of process the events of the
day and the difficult ones, and we do it when
we get home, and we do it in unproductive ways,
and we're adding hours of unpaid overtime into our lives.
(23:19):
At home. We're checked out from you know, interacting with
our families or with our partners, whatever we're supposed to
be doing, and these thoughts about work just keep invading
our head. That's that's one way we get hijacked. Another
way we get hijacked is our relationships suffer. Like there's
research that shows that if you're stressed out at work,
your partner can start to develop symptoms of burnout, because
that's how quickly that infects, and it's contagious in the home.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
How long have you been studying this phenomenon, because I
think you have identified a couple of major problems and
identified them. Well, how long has this been an area
of study? By the way, I should again describe to
you as a license psychologist and author. Is this your
first book?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
By the way, this is my fourth book, fourth But
I started the book by talking about when I got
burnt out. And I got burnt out in year one
of my career because I was handling things so poorly.
I was ruminating about this stuff at home. I was
letting work take over. I really didn't have a life.
I was just devoting everything to it, and I wasn't
smart about taking breaks during the day and finding time
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to do the things that recharge me. So I got
burnt out so quickly. So I've been like thinking about
these things for a few decades now.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, for me, getting to the gym, you know, four
or five times a week, even if it's for an hour,
that helps me. But it's it hangs over my head,
or you know, how can I make that show? What
I'm good at? Ending the show and moving on. I
(24:52):
don't celebrate successes. What do I cry over abject failures?
But because I feel like the game that I'm like
an athlete, I'm playing a game five days a week.
For me, it's I got to be up at eight.
I have to be ready to rock at eight pm
(25:13):
at night, no matter what's going on. When that light
goes on, I'm on. And so I'm high energy between
eight and midnight, or I try to be. But during
the day, I'm always thinking, Okay, do we have the
right guests? Have we picked the right topics? Is there
something we're missing? Now? Again, that is what the life
(25:35):
of a talk show host. But let's talk about more
people in my audience who might have nine to five jobs.
I'm more interested in their concerns. How can they physically
separate themselves from their work when they leave work, let's
say nine to five. Whether they're a doctor like you,
(25:55):
a lawyer, I'm also a lawyer, a professional athlete, a
ballet dancer, a carpenter, a farmer. How can you do that?
Speaker 6 (26:06):
So, first of all, we have to understand that if
your job is demanding, it's pressured, it's intense, then your job,
your actual purpose in the off hours is to destress,
is to take your body out of the fight or
flight response that is probably in for most of the day.
And fight or flight doesn't mean you're about to enter
(26:26):
an altercation. It just means that you're switched on, that
you're amped up, that you're anticipating different issues or problems
or demands that might come along. It puts us into
fight or flight. So our body can't sustain that day
and night, day and night with that break, that's how
burnout happens. So you have to think of of the
after hours as a time to get a break from that,
to come down from that. So one of the things
(26:47):
I recommend is create a ritual that transitions you from
work to your personal life, that trains your brain to anticipate. Okay,
now we're coming down from fight or flight. Now it's
about relaxation time, or personal time or family time or
romantic time, whatever it is. But we don't have to
be on alert. We don't have to be on the
crow's nest of the Titanic watching out for icebergs. You know,
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and so you have to train your brain to come down.
And the way you do that is you have a ritual,
you use music, you change clothes. Clothes are really important.
We associate clothes very much with what we do. You
work from home in the jeans and a T shirt.
Have jeans and T shirts you wear for work? Have
jeans and T shirts you don't, And you associate with
leisure time. Train your brain to be able to come
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down so you're not switched on all the time.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
That is really good advice. And we deal with a
lot of folks who have written books, and I gotta
tell you, I'm very I'm sometimes unimpressed, but I'm very
impressed that you have those specific ideas. Because people will
talk in generalities, those specifics are great. Let me ask
you this, is it good or bad when you communicate
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with your spouse or your partner, however, whatever relationship you
have and you complain about work, is it better to
get have a sympathetic ear from someone who means something
to you or is it better and more respectful of
the relationship to when you get home leave it all
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at work.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
I think what's best is that you come home if
you had a difficult day, you say to your partner,
can I complain for fifteen minutes about my day or
work through a problem I have? See, complaining is not
that useful. I think what's more useful is to say
I had something really upsetting happen at work. Can I
talk it through with you and figure out what to
do about it? Because if you're just complaining, you're not
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resolving anything. If you're using the other person, you know
as to really figure out what to do, that will
actually ease stress. But you say, let's do it for
fifteen minutes and then I'll be able to put it aside,
and then we can focus our evening on whatever the
evening's about. It doesn't have to be about something exciting, right,
it's about dinner, putting the kids to bed, watching TV,
whatever the thing would be. Let me just take fifteen minutes,
(29:01):
you know, like use you to kind of brainstorm and
figure it out. Have that purpose to figure things out,
because that will allow you to put it aside. If
you just complain about how terrible it is without figuring
it out, your mind will keep going back to it
all evening and you will not have a rest for
leaving at all.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You're really good. You're good, you answer my questions. You
know what I'd love to do is have you back
on my show at some point in the next couple
of weeks, and let's do an hour, and during this
hour we would take phone calls from listeners. Would you
be up for that?
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Oh? I love that, I'd love it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Okay, Well again, you're a great guest, and I will
have my producer contact your folks. The book is Mind
over Grind. It's out already. I hope people can can
get a copy of the.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Book if you can get it everywhere wherever books are
sold an ebook, hotcover, audiobooks, Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And Amazon. I assume as well. Mind Overgrind How to
Break Free when work hijacks your wife, Doctor Guy Winch.
Doctor Winch really enjoyed our conversation, and you answered my
questions a lot of times, the best and the brightest.
You'll ask you a question where you're looking for a
specific answer, and they'll give you what sounds like an answer,
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but isn't. You're the opposite. You actually came up with
specific solutions. I really enjoyed our conversation, and we'll have
you back. Thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
You're welcome. Well, we get back on to talk with
another doctor, doctor Harrison happ Farber, pulmonologist, director of the
Pulmonary Embolism Response Team and Tofts Medical Center, and we're
going to learn everything we need to learn about pulmonary embolisms.
That is what Catherine O'Hara died from earlier this month,
and it's something we should be aware of. That's what
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that's what we will do right after the break here
at night Side.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Whatever someone at a young age passes away, particularly someone
who is a celebrity like Catherine O'Hara, the meet the actress.
Everyone's concerned and rightfully so, about the cause of her death.
She apparently died from a pulmonary embolism. She had been
dealing with cancer, but a pulmonary embolism is something that
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we all should be aware of. I'm delighted to be
joined by doctor Harrison hap Farber. He's a pulmonologist and
director of the Pulmonary Embolism Response Team, a tough medical center. Welcome,
doctor Farber, how are you this evening.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I'm good, Thanks, thanks for having me on, So tell.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Me pulmonary embolisms. You know, I could probably look it up,
but I'm sure you could describe it more effectively from
me and my audience. I certainly have heard of it,
but the medical characterization is something that intrigues me.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
So. In simple terms, a pomary amb was is when
a quod breaks off from somewhere else in your body,
most commonly from your legs, and travels all the way
up through your body into your lungs and lodges and
the blood vessels in your lungs. And depending how extensive
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the clots are, I either clot burden or what your
underlying conditions are, or the size of your clots, you
can have nothing all the way to unfortunately dying from them.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Wow, a pulmonary embolism. Obviously, it is described as a clot.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Correct, it is a clot, Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
What sort of dimension are we talking about here? It
doesn't have to be huge? Correct?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
No, it does not. Once again, the size The size
is actually less important, is important, but there are other
factors that enter into it. Depends how much of your
pulmonary circulation is compromised, the circulation in your lungs. It
depends on the status of your heart and your lungs
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before all of this happens, and it depends on which
part of the blood vessels the class lodge. The bigger
they are, and the closer they lodge to where the
vessels take off, the more likely you are to have
a bad problem. If they're small and they go all
the way out to the periphery, that's better for you.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
So if we were for the front of it to say, okay,
if everybody can can think of the size of a
grain of sand, we're not talking about a clot that small, correct.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Well, some of them will be that No, some of
them will be that small, but some of them will
be much larger.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, So would the largest be something again, say the
size of a small marble. I mean, I'm just trying
to yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Oh yeah, okay, you there.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Okay, So then how can we who I hope everyone's
doing their annual physical and maybe even a semi annual physical,
how can they be detected? Is it some form of
a cat skin or an MRI that that we could
subject ourselves to to make sure that or that that
they just spontaneously, you know, converge and there's no time
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to Okay.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Well, so first off, Dan, there are things that put
you at risk to have a pulmonary ambulas. I mean,
we're not all walking around making pulmonary influence.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I feead.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
So there are certain things that put you at risk. Okay.
So some of the things are in her case, from
what I understand, she had cancer of her rectum. So
people who have cancer have a much higher risk of
blood clots than people who don't. It's a pro coagulant
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or state cancer that makes your blood clot. Okay, So
that's one. Two is the most common thing above. If
you want to call us normal people like you, don't.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
It now, doctor, go ahead, you're.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Right, Okay, I'll take that back. Abnormal people like you
that have often show up after they've taken a long
plane flight or a long train ride or a long
car ride or something like that and didn't move around
or whatever, and you develop clots in your legs and
at some point those clots break off and travel to
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your lungs. Okay. There are other systemic diseases that are
associated with a high risk of clots, but the biggest
is if you have underlying malignancy or cancer. Now, how
you would find them if you thought somebody has them.
Is there are scans. There's a specific form of a
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CT or a cat scan called a CT pulmonary andigram
where they would die in a purple van and it
travels up and you look at it and you see
if there are spaces in the pulmonary vessels that look
like you've had a quad.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Okay, it's funny. I recently took a ride a plane
ride to New Zealand which was about, i'll know, at
eighteen hours, and I was cautioned by a good friend
of mine in the medical community, make sure you wear
compression socks, which I did. Yeah, I never felt, you know,
their comfort. I did not. Probably didn't have a chance
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really to pace around the airlines where you know, they
were lovely, but it wasn't they They weren't looking to
be pacing back and forth. And I survived that both
ways pretty easily.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
So I'm feeling, well, yeah, there are one there. If
you're going to do a long trip like that, there
are ways to at least mitigate the chance. Compression stocks,
compression tights are one. Take a full those asp and
some people take load dose anti coagulants before they go
get up and move around. You can also, like when
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you're sitting at you know, at your seed, do little
exercises of like pushing your toes against stuff like that
and in your legs or stuff like that. But nowadays,
in all honesty with what people know, on long flights
and stuff like that, you can pretty much prevent them.
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Once again, most people who have clots, other than those
who pick it up from traveling or say you've had
trauma to your leg like surgery or something like that
and you're laying around trying to recover, you can get
clots from that. Okay, So like if you've had a
hip replacement or a knee replacement, or you broke your
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leg or something like that. But most people, it just
doesn't happen out of the blue. In her case, in
her case, from what I know of what you know,
obviously I didn't take.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Care of her and public.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
It's probably it's probably because of her cancer.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, wow, doctor, I really enjoyed uh chatting with you
about this because there are just so many ways when
someone has a poem and or embolism. Is that this
is a really dumb question, but I get paid no
ask young questions is it is? It? Is that a
relatively good way to go? If you're gonna go meaning
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painless quick, you just don't be a good question.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Technically if you have a big enough one that you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Go, yeah, it's quick.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
You pretty much you saying that's unbelievable if you if
you have a big one, a big pulman, I am was,
you're gonna go pretty quick. You may actually not even
know what hits you gotcha?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Okay, fair enough, Okay, well again, not that he was
looking forward to it, but I mean, there's a lot
of different ways to go. So you've never been asked
that question before? I suspect.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Actually to be honest, no, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
That's why I get I get paid to ask questions.
That's not a bad job. I learned a lot. Do
you have a listen to the show except when you're on.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I've heard it, yeah, good god, But I've never heard that.
I've never heard that question before. I'm going to keep
that one in.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Mind to be honest with you. When I have a
good guest who I feel will understand why why I'm
asking the question, I feel like kind of connected with
you here, to be honest with you, a lot. Some
of the guests who we have on, they're a little stiff. Okay,
you seem like I'm not, and I appreciate him not
you're not stiff. And well the nickname half I like that.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Yeah, so, Dann, Look, I'll have it put into your contract, don't.
It's time to go. You have a big one and
you're done.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
If you can arrange that, I guess, you know, but
can you wait to my nineties at least? Okay, thank
you so much, doctor doctor Harrison Farber UH. He's with
the director of the Pulinary Embolism Response Team at Tufts
Medical Center. Doctor Farber I enjoyed this conversation. Immensely tough topic,
had a lot of information. Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
All right, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
I have a good night, you too, my friend. We
came back on and talk about the horrific loss of
life at the Massachusettstate Police Academy UH and the subsequent
indictments for involuntary manslaughter of for state police officers.
It's nights time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's
new radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, believe it or not. We were just having
a great conversation about the Red Sox season with producer
Rob and associate producer Luke, who's in the control room tonight.
So that's the end of the baseball talk. We still
have to warn the Patriots. My name is Dan Ray.
We are here every Monday through Friday night. Well, we
(00:28):
as Rob, my producer, and myself and Luke is here
tonight and he'll be here other nights as well, so
we got to work him into the into the line
up here and we'll be we'll be all set. We'll
be one hundred percent at that point, maybe even better.
My name again is Dan Ray. I'm the host of
the show, and we are here Monday through Friday from
(00:48):
eight to midnight. We have a very interesting show coming
up tonight, a lot of breaking news and we're going
to keep you up to the to the minute on
what's going on with the suspension and the decommissioning of
the four Massachusetts State Police officers who have been indicted
for involuntary manslaughter in relations at the twenty twenty four
(01:09):
death of trainee Enrique Delgado Garcia. What a tragic, tragic story.
We will talk with one of the attorneys for the
Delgado Garcia family. There's also, as I'm sure most of
you know, a real break today in the disappearance. I
suspect the kidnapping, the abduction of Nancy Guthrie, the mom,
(01:33):
the eighty four year old mom of NBC Today Show
host Savannah Guthrie. And this situation is going to move
quickly tonight and we will keep on top of it.
Robin Luke will work with me very closely on this,
and we have a lot of sound on both of
these stories. But before we get to those stories, we
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have four interesting guests to introduce you to briefly here
in our first we're going to start off with Colon Young,
who is a writer at the State House News Service,
and Colon has done a report on the demise of
the penny. Colon, I think I read somewhere that had
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cost him three cents to mint new pennies, or each
new penny, and that's where the problem was. They were
minting that little penny that all of us were so
used to we could buy penny candy with. It makes
me sad. What about you, Colon, that's right, Dan.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, at last account, back in November, when they stopped
minting the penny, it cost almost four pennies to make
one new one. And the Treasury said, you know, look
this just it isn't fiscally responsible. Or they said, it's
also not necessary to meet the need of commerce in
the United States in this day and age. And they said, look,
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a lot of people, a huge number of transactions now
don't involve cash, so we don't need to, you know,
worry ourselves with every single cent.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well, you know, I'm pretty old school, as you probably
would figure. I like the idea of cash, I really do.
Credit Cards are great. I'm getting used to credit cards now,
but all this other stuff Venmo and you're look, we've
just seeing a big crash for a bitcoin. I you know,
I worry about the so called cashlest society because I
(03:37):
think that it opens all of us up to more
potential becoming victims of being hacked. You're younger than I am.
Can you buy into my concerns and all there are? No?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Oh, absolutely, I'm.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I don't use.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Cash a lot myself personally. Most every thing I pay
for with a card, these days, especially now that you
can just tap the card, you don't even have to
swipe it and punch in the pin.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Number and all of that.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
But I definitely can see your concerns, and I think
there's a large group of people who want maybe don't
have access to a bank in the same kind of way.
You know, when banks have minimum balance requirements and that
sort of thing, it can be hard for people to
keep money in a you know, say a checking account,
to use a debit card for all of their purchases.
(04:32):
And for those people, as the penny goes away, and
as we run into these shortages now of the penny,
where businesses don't have enough pennies to make correct change
and all of that, people who do operate fully in
cash could be running into situations where the rules are
(04:52):
a little bit different depending on where they shop. Maybe
one retailer treats pennies and change one way and another
retailer treats the consumer slightly differently in those transactions. So,
you know, as the penny goes away, people who rely
only on cash could find themselves in sort of prickier
(05:12):
situations and situations where it's harder to know if they're
being taken advantage of.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, what I'm trying to say is that I think
most of us realize. First of all, if there are
people who cannot do not have enough money to have
a bank account, obviously it's going to be tough for
them to get a debit card. I get that, I
truly get that. But what my concern is that the
(05:38):
more high tech we become, again, the Venmo accounts and
you're just you know, working with your computer, I just
think it's going to open up to a lot of
people getting ripped off in terms of the penny. I'll
bet you that. Now every every time someone uses cash,
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I assume that if you use a credit card, they'll
and you you purchased something for you know, twenty five
dollars and seventy six cents, they're gonna charge you twenty
five dollars and seventy six cents. They're not going to
up charge and charge you twenty six. But if you
go in and you buy something in a sore for
you know, nine dollars and ninety one cents, they're gonna
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charge you. They're going to always up charge. They're not
going to cut it back and say, oh, we'll charge you,
We'll give you a dimeback. They're gonna people are going
to start penny here, penny there eventually is going to
run into money.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
In my opinion, Oh absolutely, And that's that's exactly the
situation that a bill just filed at the state House
is trying to address. Uh, there's a similar bill at
the federal level in Congress that hasn't gone anywhere, but
of course that would would take care of this nationwide.
But in Massachusetts, that's exactly the situation that Rep. Tacki
(06:54):
Chan from Quinsy is trying to avoid, where people aren't
sure exactly what the rules are. Is the business supposed
to round up and charge more? Should they round down
and charge less? So this build a tacky Chan has
filed tries to split the difference, and in some situations
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amounts would be rounded up. In some situations amounts would
be rounded down. But the idea is that this would
say a level playing field. So no matter how.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Described colin, how did they describe those situations. I mean,
like above below fifty cents, it's rounded down, and above
fifty cents it's rounded up. Something like that.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It gets even more granular than that.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The idea.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Right, good for everyone trying to tally up their total
as they've shot. But the idea is they would take
the total and if it ends in a and with
one cent, two cents, six cents, or seven cents, the
total would be rounded down to the nearest zero or five.
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So if you had a if you were making a
purchase that was three dollars and twenty two cents, that
would get rounded down to three dollars and twenty cents. Okay,
But if your total ends with a three, four, eight,
or nine, it would be rounded up, so three dollars
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and twenty eight cents becomes three dollars and thirty cents.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
My head's going to explode with this. At some point.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's happened.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I was in one of these overpriced ice cream parlors
I'm not going to mention the name a few months
ago with my grandson who's like three and a half
wanted ice cream. So of course, the ice creams that
you would normally pay I don't know, four box, four
five bucks or something like this, and this place is
like twelve box or something at piece. So even the
kiddy coone, you know it like twelve. There's no such
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thing as a kitty cone. So I go to pay
with a credit card. It was like twenty four box
with some tax et cetera. And they said, oh no,
we don't take credit cards. And I said, okay, I
got cash. So I went to give them some cash.
I said, now, we don't take cash from you. You
got to go and put your credit card in the
machine over there and take out some cash. Well, I
know what's going on here. Obviously they're scamming their customers
(09:15):
to make them use the ATM and there. So I
I had to do that. But when I went to pay,
I wanted to give the person who had done the
ice cream cone like three four dollars tip, So I said,
do you take my cash for a tip? And of
course immediately, oh yeah, I'll take the cash, you know.
(09:35):
And they were saying the reason they wouldn't take the
cash for me and I had to go to the
ATM it wasn't necessarily clean cash. I said, what are
you talking about? They said, well, your cash could have
germs on it. Needless to say, Colin, I have never
darkened the doorway of that ice cream shop. I can't,
no will I ever.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Used to be king.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Let me tell you something well, hopefully, hopefully it will
be Maybe a lot of businesses will start to say, hey,
if you're passing cash, you pay something under the table.
I don't know, I mean it, just.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Do deal with that.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
They have to pay these high credit card service fees, right,
every slipe of a credit card charge costs of business.
So there are places where you might get a little
discount if you're paying cash, but you might have to
bring exact change now, and.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
They will report all of that. The businesses will be
will report all of that down to the penny to
the government. I'm certain that, you know. But if the
government can mess it up, calling they can mess it up.
You know that there's like seventeen billion pennies floating around.
There's plenty of pennies floating around.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You have got some businesses hoarding them now, right, trying
to keep their own stash of them so they don't
have to run.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Anybody out here is saying, oh, look at this, I
got a twenty seventeen penny that's gonna be worth like
about a million dollars ten years from now. I'm putting
that baby away. It's in pristine condition. Dream On Colin
is always so enjoyed talking with it. Man. You you
actually explain things so well that even I can understand them.
(11:16):
And if I can understand them, I know my audience
can understand them.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Oh it's my pleasure. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Dan, you bet you. We'll talk soon. By the way,
how could they get the State House News service? They can?
They can sign up for this, right, it's a freebee.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
It's not a freebie. A State House News Service is not.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
We do have a.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Free morning newsletter called master List.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
We'll give and that is free.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Give me.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Master List is m A S S E er list
dot com and you can go sign up there and
master List. The free newsletter does feature a good deal
of our reporting from state House News dot com and.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
In business parlems that's what's known as a loss leader.
People are gonna read your stuff of the matter. They're
going to realize what a great reporter you are and
what a great reporter you have on the reporters you
have in the staff, and then they'll sign up for it.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So that's we certainly hope.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So it's like getting him into the tent. Once you
get him into the tent, then you're all set a
great job. Call it thanks so much. Take care, bye
bye bye. When we come back on to talk about
a nice program up in Lowell, habit Tat for Humanity
of Greater law will CZ creating a partnership with the
Minuteman Technical Institute to give students a project they can
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gain tangible job skills by doing outside of the classroom.
Oh don't you think these kids are going to love
it being outside of the classroom on a build site
in Concord, Massachusetts. We'll talk with Shila Carlisle, the executive
director of Habitat for Humanity of Greater Lowell right after
this quick break on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Delighted to be joined by Sheila carl executive director of
Habitat for Humanity and Greater lull Shale and welcome to
Night's Side. How are you?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So you're in partnership Habitat with Humanity of Great Lol
as in partnership with the Minuteman Technical Institute. Is that
a high school or is that after high school program?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
It's a high school.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
It's a high school.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, great, Okay, So you're going to give students a
project where they're going to be able to gain some
tangible job skills, some experience outside of the classroom at
a build site in Conquered, mass Tell us about it.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yes, we're so excited to have their support on this project.
This project represents three single family homes that are being
built right now in Conquered It's a partnership with the town.
We've been very blessed for have for them to donate
some land to us and some funds, but we need
volunteers and actual support to build the houses. We have
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community members that come together that are helping build House
one and House three, but House too is in this
partnership with minute Man Tech and the students have taken
it on. They're supending this fall semester and now the
spring semester working on some framing, some electrical, some plumbing,
and we're just really excited to have their support to
create some affordable home ownership opportunities because we know Massachusetts
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is an expensive place to live.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
No doubt. So let me ask you, did they do
they go up there instead of going to school five
days a week or is it kind of a half
and half a situation of people to take people in
and rotate people out.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
That's right. They do have some classroom time, but they
do spend some days out on the job site as well,
and they have some lesson plans that our director of construction,
John Maslowski, has worked with the teacher. Mister Saint George
is their teacher, and they've partnered to figure out all
the different lesson plans along with building this, you know,
(14:55):
this residential home. So the kids are getting some serious,
serious real world experience, really having that opportunity to see
what it's like being on the job site day in,
day out. Uh, they are students, so of course, you know,
our director of construction works with them to make sure that,
you know, everything is up to code and following all
(15:15):
the right the right steps. But they're they're out there
getting excellent experience.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Now, do most of these students have they decided, Okay,
I want to be an electrician, I want to be
a plumber. Or are they getting an exposure to all
of the trades and then will make the decisions as
to what trade they might pursue after they graduate.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
That's a good question, you know, I'm not sure if
they I think they do have certain tracks I'd have
to ask that question of the school representative and see.
But I think they are getting great exposure across the
board to these different things as they go through the program.
And it is high school, so I think, you know,
they've got some opportunities and options ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm sure they. Let me tell you, I think that
people who graduate from vocational schools, whatever your technical schools,
whatever you want to call them, h and they've developed
the trade, whether it's again you know, electric heating, roofing, HVAC, plumbing,
all of the all of the trades, they will never
be without a job.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And they will always agree.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
They'll always earn well above the average income in Massachusetts.
Trying to get apart trying to get any of these
folks today the bills that I pay, the bills the
day that I get them. But it's like whoa, it's
it's yeah, pretty pretty interesting. Okay. So now the other question,
let's go to the other side of the coin. Who's
eligible for the homes? Have these homes already been spoken for?
(16:40):
Or is there some sort of a lottery that you
guys are going to be running. What's going on there?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Great question. So right now we are still in the
family selection process for these homes. We are taking applications
in If people want to apply to a home, they
can go to low Habitat dot org slash home Ownership,
So we're accepting applicant I think through February twentieth March
fifth Ish will have a lottery. So it is a
(17:06):
lottery system for the families who are eligible. One of
the neat things about Habitat is that these are homes
that folks they do have to be eligible. They have
to earn below eighty percent are immediate income, but they
have to actually purchase this home from Habitat. It's not
a free house. They have to purchase it through a mortgage.
And then one of the unique things about Habitat is
(17:27):
they have to actually do some sweat equity hours, So
the families have to help build the home alongside those
minute Man tech students, alongside our other volunteers, and it
gives them great experience to really understand the inner workings
of their house by the time they purchase it from Habitat.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Okay, so I assume they have to either have a
net worth or annual income. Is it probably more an
annual income that you're deciding who is eligible.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Yeah, so they have to we have to abide by
all the same things that a bank. They have to
have the right debt to income ratio, the right credit score,
but they have to earn between thirty to eighty percent
area meeting income. And the way habitat works is we private.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So there's a what you tell me, there's a four
in the ceiling.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Correct? Yeah, And all the people we see apply because
Massachusetts is such an expensive place to live. These are
families that are you know, hard working, two working parents.
They just may not qualify for a home and conquered
because it's so.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And these three homes give us an idea about how
large the plots are. Are they half acre or lesser?
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
About? And each home is about sixteen to eighteen hundred
square feet. We have two three bedrooms and one four bedroom.
Each have two baths.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Say eighteen hundred is close to a half acre. Y yeah,
four thousand. Okay, this sounds great. So, folks who want
to apply Habitat for Humanity Lowe is that the.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Website loll yeah, lollhabitat dot org slash home ownership is
where they'll find all the information too.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Fine, and then realistically it's three homes you'll take. How
many families do you think we'll qualify? We talking about
twenty or thirty, or we talking about two hundred or
two thousand. What do you think?
Speaker 5 (19:18):
That's a good question. We had no idea when we
opened up this application process. To give you an example
of the last home we built in Bedford, mass we
had probably sixty families that applied. Once we went through
their applications and looked at their income, I think there
were about eleven that we got to the lottery, but
that's only for a single house.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
One out. Yeah, yeah, so that's okay. Hopefully there'll be
more and more homes than Habitat for Humanity, great organization.
I hate to do this to you, Shela. I love
to talk them with you. We don't script questions here
on Nightside, but that's all I do. I ask questions
that I hope people can identify with, and you instited
with them very well. And even the ones that you
(20:00):
said you didn't have an answer for, that's a good
answer because it's an honest and truthful answer. We'll have
you back again, I promise, and keep us posted as
so maybe we'll have one of the winners come on
with you or something.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Okay, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Thanks Jayla Sheyla Carlisle of Habitat for Humanity of Greater Lull.
When we come back, do you believe that maybe work
has hijacked your life? I can understand that. We're going
to talk with a licensed psychologist and author, doctor Guy Winch,
and he's gonna winch us out of those feelings. Back
(20:34):
on Nightside right after the news at the bottom of
the hour.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
It's Nightside with.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Boston's news radio broad Do most of us need our
next guest? Welcome back everyone. My name's Dan Ray, the
host of Nightside. I am joined now by doctor Guy Winch.
He's a licensed psychologist and author. He's written a new book,
mind Over. We're not talking about coffee here, folks. Mind Overgrind,
(21:04):
how to break free when work hijacks your life. I
can understand the problem, I don't understand the solution. Talk
to Winch. Welcome to Night's Side. I work from nine
o'clock in the morning on this show until midnight. Sometimes
they get a forty five minute break during the day,
but this is more than a full time job. Believe me,
(21:26):
it is more than a full time job. Welcome, how
are you, sir?
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I am well, and I'm glad with' toking because apparently
you need it.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I definitely do what. I have my own ideas about
how to sort of spend a little bit of downtime
during the day. But I honestly, honestly, I talk to
my producer. I'm on the here four hours of night,
five nights a week. I'm a solo talk show host,
and so we have to come up with the topics
(21:57):
of the night the guests, and you're the guest that
I'm looking most forward to talk most forward to talking with.
So tell us how do we break free when work
hijacks our lives?
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Well, some people have to understand how we get hijacked,
and one of those ways are that when we get
home from work. You apparently really do. But when we
get home from work, we start to replay all the
upsetting and distressing events of the day when we're home.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Or when I get home from when when I'm home
from work, now I'm broadcasting remotely. Okay, when I get
up in the morning, my day starts. It starts slowly,
picks up momentum, we do some promotions during the day
and then I'm on the air from eight to midnight.
At midnight, I go to sleep, so I don't think
about the bad stuff during the day because I get
(22:46):
rid of that. But go ahead, I just wanted to
explain I have sort of a unique set of circumstances,
but I got to I gotta listen and learn from you.
Go right ahead, I'm listening. Good.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Yeah, Look, your circumstances are unique for two reasons. Any
that you work in midnight and be that you're able
to go to sleep right afterwards, great for you. Most
people would struggle in that circumstance because, you know, our
mind needs to kind of process the events of the
day and the difficult ones, and we do it when
we get home, and we do it in unproductive ways,
and we're adding hours of unpaid overtime into our lives.
(23:19):
At home. We're checked out from you know, interacting with
our families or with our partners, whatever we're supposed to
be doing, and these thoughts about work just keep invading
our head. That's that's one way we get hijacked. Another
way we get hijacked is our relationships suffer. Like there's
research that shows that if you're stressed out at work,
your partner can start to develop symptoms of burnout, because
that's how quickly that infects, and it's contagious in the home.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
How long have you been studying this phenomenon, because I
think you have identified a couple of major problems and
identified them. Well, how long has this been an area
of study? By the way, I should again describe to
you as a license psychologist and author. Is this your
first book?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
By the way, this is my fourth book, fourth But
I started the book by talking about when I got
burnt out. And I got burnt out in year one
of my career because I was handling things so poorly.
I was ruminating about this stuff at home. I was
letting work take over. I really didn't have a life.
I was just devoting everything to it, and I wasn't
smart about taking breaks during the day and finding time
(24:24):
to do the things that recharge me. So I got
burnt out so quickly. So I've been like thinking about
these things for a few decades now.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, for me, getting to the gym, you know, four
or five times a week, even if it's for an hour,
that helps me. But it's it hangs over my head,
or you know, how can I make that show? What
I'm good at? Ending the show and moving on. I
(24:52):
don't celebrate successes. What do I cry over abject failures?
But because I feel like the game that I'm like
an athlete, I'm playing a game five days a week.
For me, it's I got to be up at eight.
I have to be ready to rock at eight pm
(25:13):
at night, no matter what's going on. When that light
goes on, I'm on. And so I'm high energy between
eight and midnight, or I try to be. But during
the day, I'm always thinking, Okay, do we have the
right guests? Have we picked the right topics? Is there
something we're missing? Now? Again, that is what the life
(25:35):
of a talk show host. But let's talk about more
people in my audience who might have nine to five jobs.
I'm more interested in their concerns. How can they physically
separate themselves from their work when they leave work, let's
say nine to five. Whether they're a doctor like you,
(25:55):
a lawyer, I'm also a lawyer, a professional athlete, a
ballet dancer, a carpenter, a farmer. How can you do that?
Speaker 6 (26:06):
So, first of all, we have to understand that if
your job is demanding, it's pressured, it's intense, then your job,
your actual purpose in the off hours is to destress,
is to take your body out of the fight or
flight response that is probably in for most of the day.
And fight or flight doesn't mean you're about to enter
(26:26):
an altercation. It just means that you're switched on, that
you're amped up, that you're anticipating different issues or problems
or demands that might come along. It puts us into
fight or flight. So our body can't sustain that day
and night, day and night with that break, that's how
burnout happens. So you have to think of of the
after hours as a time to get a break from that,
to come down from that. So one of the things
(26:47):
I recommend is create a ritual that transitions you from
work to your personal life, that trains your brain to anticipate. Okay,
now we're coming down from fight or flight. Now it's
about relaxation time, or personal time or family time or
romantic time, whatever it is. But we don't have to
be on alert. We don't have to be on the
crow's nest of the Titanic watching out for icebergs. You know,
(27:10):
and so you have to train your brain to come down.
And the way you do that is you have a ritual,
you use music, you change clothes. Clothes are really important.
We associate clothes very much with what we do. You
work from home in the jeans and a T shirt.
Have jeans and T shirts you wear for work? Have
jeans and T shirts you don't, And you associate with
leisure time. Train your brain to be able to come
(27:30):
down so you're not switched on all the time.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
That is really good advice. And we deal with a
lot of folks who have written books, and I gotta
tell you, I'm very I'm sometimes unimpressed, but I'm very
impressed that you have those specific ideas. Because people will
talk in generalities, those specifics are great. Let me ask
you this, is it good or bad when you communicate
(27:57):
with your spouse or your partner, however, whatever relationship you
have and you complain about work, is it better to
get have a sympathetic ear from someone who means something
to you or is it better and more respectful of
the relationship to when you get home leave it all
(28:18):
at work.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
I think what's best is that you come home if
you had a difficult day, you say to your partner,
can I complain for fifteen minutes about my day or
work through a problem I have? See, complaining is not
that useful. I think what's more useful is to say
I had something really upsetting happen at work. Can I
talk it through with you and figure out what to
do about it? Because if you're just complaining, you're not
(28:41):
resolving anything. If you're using the other person, you know
as to really figure out what to do, that will
actually ease stress. But you say, let's do it for
fifteen minutes and then I'll be able to put it aside,
and then we can focus our evening on whatever the
evening's about. It doesn't have to be about something exciting, right,
it's about dinner, putting the kids to bed, watching TV,
whatever the thing would be. Let me just take fifteen minutes,
(29:01):
you know, like use you to kind of brainstorm and
figure it out. Have that purpose to figure things out,
because that will allow you to put it aside. If
you just complain about how terrible it is without figuring
it out, your mind will keep going back to it
all evening and you will not have a rest for
leaving at all.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You're really good. You're good, you answer my questions. You
know what I'd love to do is have you back
on my show at some point in the next couple
of weeks, and let's do an hour, and during this
hour we would take phone calls from listeners. Would you
be up for that?
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Oh? I love that, I'd love it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Okay, Well again, you're a great guest, and I will
have my producer contact your folks. The book is Mind
over Grind. It's out already. I hope people can can
get a copy of the.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Book if you can get it everywhere wherever books are
sold an ebook, hotcover, audiobooks, Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And Amazon. I assume as well. Mind Overgrind How to
Break Free when work hijacks your wife, Doctor Guy Winch.
Doctor Winch really enjoyed our conversation, and you answered my
questions a lot of times, the best and the brightest.
You'll ask you a question where you're looking for a
specific answer, and they'll give you what sounds like an answer,
(30:13):
but isn't. You're the opposite. You actually came up with
specific solutions. I really enjoyed our conversation, and we'll have
you back. Thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
You're welcome. Well, we get back on to talk with
another doctor, doctor Harrison happ Farber, pulmonologist, director of the
Pulmonary Embolism Response Team and Tofts Medical Center, and we're
going to learn everything we need to learn about pulmonary embolisms.
That is what Catherine O'Hara died from earlier this month,
and it's something we should be aware of. That's what
(30:44):
that's what we will do right after the break here
at night Side.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Whatever someone at a young age passes away, particularly someone
who is a celebrity like Catherine O'Hara, the meet the actress.
Everyone's concerned and rightfully so, about the cause of her death.
She apparently died from a pulmonary embolism. She had been
dealing with cancer, but a pulmonary embolism is something that
(31:14):
we all should be aware of. I'm delighted to be
joined by doctor Harrison hap Farber. He's a pulmonologist and
director of the Pulmonary Embolism Response Team, a tough medical center. Welcome,
doctor Farber, how are you this evening.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I'm good, Thanks, thanks for having me on, So tell.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Me pulmonary embolisms. You know, I could probably look it up,
but I'm sure you could describe it more effectively from
me and my audience. I certainly have heard of it,
but the medical characterization is something that intrigues me.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
So. In simple terms, a pomary amb was is when
a quod breaks off from somewhere else in your body,
most commonly from your legs, and travels all the way
up through your body into your lungs and lodges and
the blood vessels in your lungs. And depending how extensive
(32:11):
the clots are, I either clot burden or what your
underlying conditions are, or the size of your clots, you
can have nothing all the way to unfortunately dying from them.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Wow, a pulmonary embolism. Obviously, it is described as a clot.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Correct, it is a clot, Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
What sort of dimension are we talking about here? It
doesn't have to be huge? Correct?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
No, it does not. Once again, the size The size
is actually less important, is important, but there are other
factors that enter into it. Depends how much of your
pulmonary circulation is compromised, the circulation in your lungs. It
depends on the status of your heart and your lungs
(33:02):
before all of this happens, and it depends on which
part of the blood vessels the class lodge. The bigger
they are, and the closer they lodge to where the
vessels take off, the more likely you are to have
a bad problem. If they're small and they go all
the way out to the periphery, that's better for you.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
So if we were for the front of it to say, okay,
if everybody can can think of the size of a
grain of sand, we're not talking about a clot that small, correct.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Well, some of them will be that No, some of
them will be that small, but some of them will
be much larger.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, So would the largest be something again, say the
size of a small marble. I mean, I'm just trying
to yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Oh yeah, okay, you there.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Okay, So then how can we who I hope everyone's
doing their annual physical and maybe even a semi annual physical,
how can they be detected? Is it some form of
a cat skin or an MRI that that we could
subject ourselves to to make sure that or that that
they just spontaneously, you know, converge and there's no time
(34:18):
to Okay.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Well, so first off, Dan, there are things that put
you at risk to have a pulmonary ambulas. I mean,
we're not all walking around making pulmonary influence.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I feead.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
So there are certain things that put you at risk. Okay.
So some of the things are in her case, from
what I understand, she had cancer of her rectum. So
people who have cancer have a much higher risk of
blood clots than people who don't. It's a pro coagulant
(34:56):
or state cancer that makes your blood clot. Okay, So
that's one. Two is the most common thing above. If
you want to call us normal people like you, don't.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
It now, doctor, go ahead, you're.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Right, Okay, I'll take that back. Abnormal people like you
that have often show up after they've taken a long
plane flight or a long train ride or a long
car ride or something like that and didn't move around
or whatever, and you develop clots in your legs and
at some point those clots break off and travel to
(35:34):
your lungs. Okay. There are other systemic diseases that are
associated with a high risk of clots, but the biggest
is if you have underlying malignancy or cancer. Now, how
you would find them if you thought somebody has them.
Is there are scans. There's a specific form of a
(35:57):
CT or a cat scan called a CT pulmonary andigram
where they would die in a purple van and it
travels up and you look at it and you see
if there are spaces in the pulmonary vessels that look
like you've had a quad.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Okay, it's funny. I recently took a ride a plane
ride to New Zealand which was about, i'll know, at
eighteen hours, and I was cautioned by a good friend
of mine in the medical community, make sure you wear
compression socks, which I did. Yeah, I never felt, you know,
their comfort. I did not. Probably didn't have a chance
(36:35):
really to pace around the airlines where you know, they
were lovely, but it wasn't they They weren't looking to
be pacing back and forth. And I survived that both
ways pretty easily.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
So I'm feeling, well, yeah, there are one there. If
you're going to do a long trip like that, there
are ways to at least mitigate the chance. Compression stocks,
compression tights are one. Take a full those asp and
some people take load dose anti coagulants before they go
get up and move around. You can also, like when
(37:06):
you're sitting at you know, at your seed, do little
exercises of like pushing your toes against stuff like that
and in your legs or stuff like that. But nowadays,
in all honesty with what people know, on long flights
and stuff like that, you can pretty much prevent them.
(37:28):
Once again, most people who have clots, other than those
who pick it up from traveling or say you've had
trauma to your leg like surgery or something like that
and you're laying around trying to recover, you can get
clots from that. Okay, So like if you've had a
hip replacement or a knee replacement, or you broke your
(37:50):
leg or something like that. But most people, it just
doesn't happen out of the blue. In her case, in
her case, from what I know of what you know,
obviously I didn't take.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Care of her and public.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
It's probably it's probably because of her cancer.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, wow, doctor, I really enjoyed uh chatting with you
about this because there are just so many ways when
someone has a poem and or embolism. Is that this
is a really dumb question, but I get paid no
ask young questions is it is? It? Is that a
relatively good way to go? If you're gonna go meaning
(38:30):
painless quick, you just don't be a good question.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Technically if you have a big enough one that you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Go, yeah, it's quick.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
You pretty much you saying that's unbelievable if you if
you have a big one, a big pulman, I am was,
you're gonna go pretty quick. You may actually not even
know what hits you gotcha?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Okay, fair enough, Okay, well again, not that he was
looking forward to it, but I mean, there's a lot
of different ways to go. So you've never been asked
that question before? I suspect.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Actually to be honest, no, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
That's why I get I get paid to ask questions.
That's not a bad job. I learned a lot. Do
you have a listen to the show except when you're on.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I've heard it, yeah, good god, But I've never heard that.
I've never heard that question before. I'm going to keep
that one in.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Mind to be honest with you. When I have a
good guest who I feel will understand why why I'm
asking the question, I feel like kind of connected with
you here, to be honest with you, a lot. Some
of the guests who we have on, they're a little stiff. Okay,
you seem like I'm not, and I appreciate him not
you're not stiff. And well the nickname half I like that.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Yeah, so, Dann, Look, I'll have it put into your contract, don't.
It's time to go. You have a big one and
you're done.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
If you can arrange that, I guess, you know, but
can you wait to my nineties at least? Okay, thank
you so much, doctor doctor Harrison Farber UH. He's with
the director of the Pulinary Embolism Response Team at Tufts
Medical Center. Doctor Farber I enjoyed this conversation. Immensely tough topic,
had a lot of information. Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
All right, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
I have a good night, you too, my friend. We
came back on and talk about the horrific loss of
life at the Massachusettstate Police Academy UH and the subsequent
indictments for involuntary manslaughter of for state police officers.
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