November 19, 2024 • 40 mins
For most, Thanksgiving is a time for families to gather around the dinner table and converse. What happens though when conversing with your family members or friends takes a sharp turn into the choppy waters of politics, as many are fearful of, especially after this past election? How do you keep political rifts from ruining Thanksgiving? Have you changed your holiday plans this year over politics?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Dan Ray for the Untellings, Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, we are talking about your family Thanksgiving dinner. Now,
I'm hoping that all of you have some group of
people that you will spend part of Thanksgiving with, And
in most cases it's going to be family members. Sometimes
they're family members who you're not especially close to, but
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they're family members. Involves cousins and involves in laws, and
you may see them just a handful of times a year.
But I gotta tell you, it's an important day. And
of course it gets complicated because people have strong feelings
about the election that has just passed. It's not as
bad as I thought it was going to be. It
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really wasn't. I mean, I was afraid that we would
have a really close election with electoral votes would be
you know, two seven three to I don't know two
sixty five or whatever that would be. And I was thinking,
oh my god, can you imagine. But it wasn't that close. Uh,
And it doesn't matter at this point. I think everybody
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has well they haven't accepted, but they certainly understand that
there's nothing much that can be done to challenge the
results of a decisive election. So my question is how
are you going to handle it? I you know, in
years past people have said, well, you just don't talk politics.
Don't talk politics the elephant in the room. You know,
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what are you going to talk about the red Sox?
I mean, I guess you could, but that's not going
to be particularly uplifting. Talk about the patriots, I don't
think so. I mean, talk about Drake May and say
hey we've got a quarterback of the future, but emphasis
is on future. Talk about the Bruins. How they doing?
You talk about the celfic. Sure, but you know what
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I'm saying is that it will come up. It will
come up. How are you going to handle it? I'm
suggesting you handle it politely and you say either you say, gee,
I got to be honest with you. I prefer not
to say who I voted for, which is your right,
you're progative. Or you could say I voted for Harris
or I voted for Trump. Who have you voted for?
I voted for the libertaire whomever, And people need to
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respect you for that. What whether you vote a Democrat
or Republican. The people in the room might disagree with you,
but they have to respect you, and I think this
would be really a place to get that conversation started.
Now we'll continue, let's keep going here. I'm going to
go to Florence, Florence. How will you celebrate Thanksgiving? And
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what do you think do you think politics will come up?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, first of all, all, yeah, we don't talk politics
at all.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Okay, Well that's one way to approach it.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, we talk about a myth of all different things, okay,
and we never talk politics.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, then you're lucky. How big a gathering does your
family generally have?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Ten to fourteen?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Ten to fourteen, that's pretty regular normal size. Are these
Are you the host this year? Or does it rotate
or what?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
My son?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh good?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Okay, all right, And I just wanted to say I
think a lot of people out there are ridiculous to
let their political feelings interfere with their relationship.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, these are biological relationships. You can pick your friends,
but you can't pick your relatives.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Right, And I seem to be hearing that over the years,
you know, especially this year, it gets you know, from
other people.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
In general, and I think I think it could it
could have been worse this year, for in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
A total catastrophe, but it didn't quite get that far.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, which is great.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah yeah, but yeah, so I may think it's boring,
but it isn't. It's good to stay away from politics.
My father told me years ago when I was a teenager,
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that we don't talk politics or religion. And I'm not
sure you've you've heard that.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh, I think I think everyone has heard that. And
I think the the religion is even worse than the politics,
because you're you're you're diving deep into somebody's you know,
belief system and their soul, and uh, you know, at
least politics people can share. People change politics all the time.
You know, someone will say, well, I voted for Biden,
but now I'm going to above for Trump, or or
I voted for Trump the first time, but I'm not
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voting for the second time. People change politics all the time.
Very rarely do people change religions. I mean, I think
that religions sort of get instilled in you when you
were in young People might become atheists or agnostics and
realize they don't have a religious belief. But very rarely
do you all of a sudden find out that someone
went from being this to that so I think it's
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a good I think it's a solid plan that you
and your family have. But you know, if it does
come up, hey, whoever you voted for it, I'm never
going to ask you. I could care less. You're my
friend either way, and I think that you should treat
your other family members as well. Thanks. Thanks so much, Florence.
We'll talk soon. Thanks. If I don't talk to you,
haven't that great Thanksgiving? Okay?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You just saying thank you?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I will thank you. I will. All right, We'll take
a quick break here six one seven one line six
one seven, two five, four, ten thirty coming right back
on Nightside.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Now, back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Nightside Studios on w b Z the news radio.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Back we go. Let's go to Suzanne. Suzanne, you were
up late tonight. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
So say?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I love l Dan, Thanks for taking like all. I
have much to be thankful for this ice skiving. I
will have here in my apartment, a car, the light
nun and my friend Meredith Sylvaine who is singing turkey
pot pies. I have all good fowers and it's fit
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Ray so will be lovely if it does that, and
we will Paula takes off the menu.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Susanne, that's what we're talking about. Love. I'm delighted.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
How I hear a certain age, but either rire sad
the catboy be able to get out off the dead
without breaking your help.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Well that's good news too, Susanne. Thanks very much for
the call. As always, I appreciate all the information. Thank
you very much. Let me come next to Eileen and
how I Leen? How are you?
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Oh? Well, I'm fine and I am just uh. I
wanted to say that, Well, the last few years, I
have a son who I've gone to the to what's
called the National Day of Mourning down in Plymouth, and uh,
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that's because of the dispute over the pilgrim's treatment of
Native Americans. Yes, and last yeah, last year I went
with my son and the whole demonstration involved Palestinian protesters.
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What was that about? Is that was that the problems
in Israel?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I guess absolutely?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
All right, Well, this year I'm just glad that I'm
not going to be alone on Thanksgiving and.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I'm going to try something to be thankful for. Obviously
there will be people, sadly who will be alone. There'll
be there are people who have serious mental health issues
who by by choice, decide to live outside, you know,
every day of the year, and they may be alone
as well. But I was encouraging people that if you
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had a neighbor who was alone, incorporate them into what
you're doing, even if you just invite them over to
have a drink or come over and and have have
the meal, you know, the Thanksgiving meal that's that would be.
And you know whether and who cares what their politics are,
who cares what their religion is. They're a human being
and they're an American. They should not be alone.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
So right, well, I'm I'm very grateful that. Well, my
son is in school, so he's got a lot of
homework to do, and I haven't heard anything from him
about Thanksgiving or either.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Of my.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
None of my three sons.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, I'm sure that they they're going to get around
to it. It's still still got nine days, I lean,
I'm sure you'll have a good time.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Yeah, and most of all, it's going to try to
keep my big mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
All right, All right, that's not bad advice either, But
don't hesitate to tell people what you think if if
you're so inclined. I'm not telling people what to do.
I'm just saying, don't be don't be ashamed. And you
don't have to say who you voted for. And you
you you can. You can choose to say who you
voted for. It's your choice, it's your prerogative. We still
live in a free country. Don't let anyone take that
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away from you. And don't be right. Don't don't let
anybody try to embarrass you or put you on the spot.
Simple as that. Stand your ground exactly. Yeah, good night,
you for calling. Good night. Let me go to war
and Warren you're next time. Next, I go ahead, Warren.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Hey, Dan As you know, like I'm in media just
like me, just like you're just different. You know where
I ran my music pages and all stuff like that. Sure,
I've lost I've lost, you know, friends on both sides
of the aisle, you know, from being you know, from
being really extremists, you know, and like you know these people,
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and I think it all comes down to you, you know,
like if you're going to be pompous and you're going
to be like you know, stick your finger at them
and wave your finger and it'say, oh yeah, my guy one,
and all stuff like that. You know, yeah, then maybe
you know, you know, maybe don't go to Thanksgiving dinner
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if you're going to do that, you know, because that's antagonizing.
If you know, people antagonized. I mean maybe just you know,
don't be you know, and antagonistic during the meal. Yeah,
you can get me. I don't. I think I think
politics is inevitable, you know, I think you know, you
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talk about the economy and how expensive things are, and
you know you talk about education, I mean, politics, encumfadences,
so so many things. And yeah, they really can't avoid
it at the table.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, but at the same time, everybody could could could
keep calm. Uh, they don't have a decent conversation, and
and whether no one should laud it over and the
Trump people should not be lauding high we want the
Harris people should be uh, you know, confident enough to say, hey,
we we didn't win, but we had we thought we
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had the better candidate or what if you can you can.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Handle it in a you can handle it, you can
handle it respectfully with with calm. Debates can agree with
you more could agree And I mean like like like
my gathering is going to be like ten people and
four of them are are liberals, and six of us
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are conservatives. So I'm just afraid that my brother in
law is going to be like one of those boisterous people.
And you know, say you got to you know, making
the other, you know, making the four liberals feel bad.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know, you take them, take them ahead of time
and just say, hey, look, you know, the only thing
worse than a sore loser is a is a sore
winner or a bad.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Winner exactly exactly fixed and uh.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And and feel you know, put yourself in their position.
How would you feel if if you're your person get lost.
That's all have a little a little empathy and we'll
all get through the day. But I think again, the idea,
you know, if you walk into home, well there's gonna
be no politics here. You know, we're gonna we're.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Gonna dig out again. I think, I think, I think
you can't avoid it because it because it didn't involved
pretty much everything everything that that we have to deal
with in life. So it's like, that's why that's why
elections are important. You know.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Sounds good one. I'm with you. I appreciate it, Thank
you much.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Talk soon, okay, okay, I'll talk Happy.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Thanksgiving If I don't talk to you. I'm sure I will,
but yeah, thank let's keep rolling. He're gonna get at
least one more in before the break. Gonna go to
Alan Saugus l welcome next time. I say, I'll go right.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
Ahead, Dan. I agree with that gentleman, that politics is
really pervasive at our whole society. It deals with how
how society runs there and it is hard, but I
am I've been told no politics, and I'll abide by that.
But it's hard when the media has called one side Hitler, racist, rapist, misogynist.
(14:24):
It's hard to come back from that where they just
they just dumped on Trump so much. You know that
some of these people that are against him find it
hard to accept us that supported Trump. You know, it
seems to be way one sided. We might not have
liked Harris, thought she was vapid, an empty suit or something,
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but then it went on to you know, some of
this stuff was crazy how they threw it at Trump.
But anyways, I have a brother that we've fought a
lot about politics back and forth, and I just saw
him today and I have no trouble when I see
him in person. When you're in a car, you could
give the finger and yell at someone, but you wouldn't
do that face to face. And when you're texting, you know,
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it's so distant in a way, but it's not what
you would do in person. And I think the thing
you should talk about at Thanksgiving is the memories of
your loved ones, all the fun and child. Yeah, you
don't get to choose your friends, so but these are
the people who have the most memories in those first
twelve to fourteen years of your life, the formative years,
and that's what's fun to reminisce about about the people
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who passed on how funny things happened. I think that's
the thing we did one day at a little impromptu
birthday party for a little five year old one day,
and we were all there telling stories that we didn't
know about things that we did, different things that happened
in our lives, and you know, trying out for a
hockey team and fallen down and different funny stories just
organically that And you don't have to talk about you.
(15:51):
You're not going to talk about your mortgage, you know,
so while you're not going to talk about God, you
have your own beliefs that you've over your adult years,
you have managed and made your decisions. But you know,
I sometimes come on as a town cryer, trying to
show them, don't you see this, don't you see that?
And it doesn't work because they're adults, and they'll they'll
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take from the table of the media and establishment that
they want. And if they decide to accept the lies
that I think are lies about someone, that I just
feel bad. I almost feel bad, like you know that
you know where TDS is right, Trump Trump's arrangement syndrome.
I actually feel a little bad for some of these
people that they can't look at it with a sober
mind and realize they've been they've been hoodwinked a little bit,
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you know, and bought into it too much.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
So I have to just tell, you know, maybe they'll
come around.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I just you know, just approach it with the attitude
of hey, it's yeah, how many more thanksgivings do you
have with those people? I mean, I don't know how
old or young the group is, but you know, a
year from now, it could be that the same group
doesn't gather. So I mean, just enjoy it, you know,
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and enjoy it for the day it is. And I
don't think you have to bear your soul, and I
certainly you know, you know, you can talk about how
it turned out, and you can talk about, hey, there's
some positives. I mean, four years ago we were still
battling over the votes and all that. Thank goodness that
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is that's not happening this time. So we had an
election which was more decisive. You know, they the people
who you agree with, you know, don't rub it in
people's faces. And the people who disagree with you, you know,
they should not be looking down at you that somehow
they're smarter because they didn't vote for Trump. That's quick thing.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Yeah, the most precious thing we have is time. Like
you said, who's going to be here next year? And
that's why I think talking about the past is fun.
It's a reminiscent time and you can folks us on that,
like about her, Remember they did this, when we did that,
and that has nothing to do with you know, the
here and now survival of you.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know, I mean, if you want to do that,
if everyone wants to do that, that's fine. Look remember
at some point they'll be talking about you. Remember Alf
from Saugust, Oh, he used to make just make phone
calls to those crazy talk shows. I mean, all right,
well go to Dan right back at You're gonna talk
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to you soon, all right. You got a couple of
open lines one at six one, seven, two four, ten thirty,
and I got a couple at six one, seven, nine three,
ten thirty. What I'm trying to do is basically give
you a strategy how to deal with whatever you're going
to deal with on Thanksgiving. Don't let it ruin the day.
I mean, the last thing you want is somebody to
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throw a scene at a Thanksgiving dinner and either criticize,
attack with such vituperation that it becomes uncomfortable. And one
of the ways you can defend against that is laugh
at people. Laugh at them. Say the election's over. Okay,
you know, we can talk about, you know, what mistakes
were made, but it's over. It's like the World Series
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is over. The Dodgers beat the Yankees. You could be
the biggest Yankee fan in the world. You can't change
the results of the twenty twenty four World Series. The
other side can't change the results. Again, you know, don't
rub it in their face, don't don't allow people to
dictate to you, or conversely, you know, the Harris supporters.
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You know, she ran under difficult circumstances. I think take
some consolation in that, and that there's always next year
in sports, and there's always four years down the line.
And Donald Trump made it hard on himself by doing
some of the crazy stuff he did in January twenty
twenty one. And I still think it's amazing that we
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have a historical event in America that did not happen
in the twentieth century. One time before it happened that
a president was elected to a second term non consecutively,
and Grover Cleveland was the president that had that happened.
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That's the only other time. I mean, it's a long time.
We've been a country, quote a quarter of a millennium,
two hundred and fifty years. This is only the second
time you witnessed it. Whether you're just repelled by it
or or you delight in it, we all experienced a
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historical event. Let's hope. Let's hope that we can look
back a year from now and say, hey, no, he
did some good things, he did some goofy things, but
he's going to be president unless something extraordinary intervenes. Beginning
on January twentieth, so having said that, I would like
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to continue to talk about this until midnight. And because
maybe if you want to talk about any other subject,
if you want to throw a subject the idea at me,
I'll give you a incorporate, will incorporate a little open
lines here. I'm trying to basically help you get through Thanksgiving.
(21:26):
I'm not a psychiatrist, but I'm a better psychiatrist, in
my opinion than the psychiatrist that we had quoted who
was on MSNBC, who essentially took the position takes the
position that somehow, some way she's superior to people. Let's
let's play one one bite out here so people know
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what kicked what got me going on this? This is
this has cut eight C rob eight C.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
And I actually talked to you know, adults as well
as parents for children. I mean, I think, you know,
I don't think that you should force children. I don't
think you should have forced adults to be around people
just because they're your family. I think there is a
level you know, need to establish boundaries. And if you
feel like you need to establish boundaries with people, whether
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they're your family or not, I think you should very
much be entitled to do so, and I think it
may be essential for your mental health.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
This is a psychiatrist from Yale who obviously is upset
with the result of the election on MSNBC talking to
Joy Reid that that's what they're teaching at Yale. Right there,
no wonder, we're in trouble as a country. Back on nights,
I get some open lines. Give us a call back.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Right after this, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray
on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Let's go to lauro In. Lynn Laurel, welcome back. How
are you sir?
Speaker 11 (22:57):
Oh yes, sir, long time no here. Thank you for
loving me join your show. I wish happiness for all
of your listeners, Glenn and Brighton and Aliston and Maine
to the name a few. Thank you so much for
allowing me to join you on this conversation. So excuse
(23:19):
me if I get a little emotional this year Thanksgiving.
If you all you and your listeners and keep me
and your thoughts and prayers, because I just lost my
mom forty nine years old, had her for forty nine years.
Two years ago. She got diagnosed. Last year, she got
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diagnosed with dementia. We saw symptoms like years a couple
of years before we didn't really pay attention to it.
So it's going to be myself, my twin sister, and
my dad. Maybe a few nephews, but I think it's
mostly going to be myself, my dad, and my twin sister.
Is going to be hot for us. We just lost
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mom in September. Again, if you can just leave us
and your dawson prayers.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
We had a bad year. Uh.
Speaker 11 (24:11):
Two of our cats died in March. My mom's cat
was one of them, and my twin sister and son's
cat was another one. Both of them were sick for
about two weeks and they became violently ill, stopped eating,
stopped drinking, and they both died the same day, hours apart.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So sometimes things work out pretty weird that way. Huh.
You know, maybe maybe there is a they're they're together
with your mom and who knows, you know. I mean,
that's that's very possible. Okay.
Speaker 11 (24:47):
I lost my job too back in April. I think
that was God's will saying, hey, spend more time with mom.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
You know.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
Sad to say, but that's just we just had a terrible,
terrible year. I used to work in the media, like
you myself. You know, I used to work in radio.
I missed it terribly. Trying to get back into radio,
if not, maybe get into the healthcare because I have
experience in both, like office work, so I'm trying to
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get either or.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But yeah, what did what did you do in radio? Laura?
What did you? Laura? What did you do in radio?
Speaker 11 (25:23):
I was a producer, just like your producer doesn't work
producing radio shows for your competitor in Brighton. I don't
want to say the name I also used to I
started out actually a kiss on the way back in
the late nineties, actually mid nineties. I used to work
with JJ Wright and McMahon, all the old school persons
(25:46):
I used.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
To work with. Yeah that's a great resume.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
Yeah yeah, just trying to get back into the game.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
But it's hard.
Speaker 11 (25:53):
You know, I'm not giving up. You know, something's bound happened.
But you know, just right now, I'm having, like the
last couple of nights, I've been having a dream working
the radio. So hopefully that will you know, hopefully that's
telling me something. But you know, because a good thing
is our still alive. You know, that's a good thing.
But if you can ask your listeners your regular listeners
(26:15):
who might know me, who might remember me. I used
to call like about a year or two ago. We'll
just keep me in your career.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Consider it done, laurrow and hopefully there's a better year
around the corner.
Speaker 11 (26:26):
Okay, most definitely. Wis should you happiness as well?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Right back at you. Thanks Laura, to talk to you soon,
you too, Mine call again. Let's go to Ken in Waltham,
Ken you were next on nice side.
Speaker 12 (26:39):
Welcome, Thank you Dan, good evening.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (26:44):
I was thinking just one thing that, you know, I
think feelings are so raw after this election, in particular,
that if people don't normally talk about politics and Thanksgiving
and they're just not sure if they want to, you know,
bring something up or not that you know, I think
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there there'd be no penalty in waiting a year maybe
maybe starting a political conversation that Thanksgiving might work better,
uh for them on an on an off election cycle
year of things.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, no, I unders said that. But but do you
do you fear or do you have apprehensions that you
know you'll be hitting there and someone's going to bring
a subject up?
Speaker 12 (27:31):
None at all, not at all. I I yeah, the
Thanksgiving I go to now it'll it's very it's in
my laws and it's a very big family and everybody's
pretty much on the same side politically, and I don't
think it will come up at all. Actually, I mean
there's a lot of just because there'll always be there'll
be new family members to talk about. There have been
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new babies born and and people we've lost, and it's
it's kind of that kind of uh sensation. But my
own family when I when we used to have Thanksgiving, yeah,
there were all these political discussions, and I think if
we always you know, try to be accurate with our
information and not be personal, we were able to have
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productive conversations. And Dan, I think you epitomize that, and
I think you said a great example.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Well, I appreciate it, and I'm just saying that maybe
if it does come up, maybe you can use this
show to diffuse it a little bit and say, hey,
come on, we're here. Let's you know, if you voted
for for Trump, uh, you know, take take your win
and uh and be gracious you know. I mean, I
love when you watch a sporting event and at the
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end of the game, the smart guy is going to say, man,
we just were able to win and we beat a
great team. They're so talented, but we were able to
pull it out. And someone's gracious. You get the guy
who says, you know, we're number one. They stn't you know.
I mean what you're all almost taking away from your
own credit. You want to build up your opponent and say, hey,
(29:04):
they ran a good race and and somehow we're able
to win. So you can be gracious, uh in victory
and magnanimous and defeat, you can always say hey, look,
you know, look look back, look back at the presidential elections.
You got uh. You know, President Biden was a Democrat,
Donald Trump was a Republican before him, President Obamba. It
swings back and forth if you if you study history.
(29:27):
So yeah, you know, don't let it ruin the day,
I guess is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
No, I'm with you. So I I maybe about six
years ago I wrote a letter to you know, the
editor of Time magazine, and I said, you know, instead
a Person of the Year, how about a couple of
the Year. And I nominated Kelly and Conway and George Conway,
and I said that if they can get along. So
(29:56):
this is.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Remember before that before for them. You had James Carville
and Mary Mattlin.
Speaker 13 (30:05):
Yeah, you know, and there's there's probably more than a
few marriages, you know, within your your realm of knowledge
and with mine.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And you have people who are on opposite sides. But
that doesn't mean that they can't respect each other and
actually love one another despite that difference. I mean, I
have you know, I think there's there's families that that
have Red Sox fans and Yeake fans. Yeah, I mean
it's so it's just natural and and have some they
(30:38):
have some fun with it, I think, And and don't
don't look. It's what's done is done. If if if
Trump has learned from his past mistakes and he does well,
we will all benefit. If he doesn't, the Republican Party
will suffer defeats in twenty uh twenty six and twenty
(31:00):
twenty eight. And that's the way it works in America.
So you'll handle it. Don't worry. You're gonna be okay, Ken,
all right.
Speaker 12 (31:08):
I'm fine. I'm I'm just making with it. I guess
you know, if I had to say one word, I'd say,
think empathy. Right, people are on both sides are really
really sensitive right now, and yeah, they know they I
think we're okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. You
had a final thought, go ahead?
Speaker 8 (31:30):
No, No, that was it.
Speaker 12 (31:31):
I it was I think empathy. They're they're very very rough, yeah,
very very raw feelings, and.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
No one, no one ever loses if everyone's empathetic, if
you can kind of put yourself in the other person's
shoes and okay, you know, if you're a Trumpster, you'll
you'll you lost big in twenty twenty and you know,
or you lost clothes to twenty and you won, so
you you you you you should be you know happy.
If you're Harris, you can look back and say, hey,
(32:02):
I get Delta a bad set of cards here. You know,
if President Biden had a year ago said hey, I'm
not up to go a second term, there would have
been a legitimate Democratic primary nomination, and maybe she would
have won, maybe someone else would have won, but she
would have been battle tested and maybe you'll kind of
get thrown in as she did. I you could. You
(32:24):
could look at this so many ways. You could be
empathetic in it.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Right, but it's not over.
Speaker 12 (32:28):
That's I think my point.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
Yes, it's never people are worried, right, people are, but
it's not it's not my recommendation.
Speaker 12 (32:39):
I was just you know, if you do bring it up,
if topics are brought up, that's great. And if not,
you know, and you're you don't know which way to go,
you want to wait a year. I think that's fine too,
and then everybody should listen to Night's Side because I think.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm with you on all three of those points. Thanks again,
I appreciate you fair enough. Doctor. Soon we'll take a
quick break. I got Paula, Dave, and Eugene coming up.
We're gonna get to them all, that's for sure. If
you want to try six one seven, two ten thirty
or six one seven, nine three ten thirty, go ahead,
but I guarantee Paula, Dave, and Eugene I'll give it
a shot. We'll be back after this.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm gonna get everybody in here. We have just enough
time for everyone quickly. Eugene is next. Eugene is in
the Philippines. Eugene, I understand you guys have had a
lot of rain out there. We have had none but
you've got big problems with flooding. Are you doing? Okay?
Speaker 12 (33:43):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Better of fact, from mid September to a few days ago,
eight typhoons.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Except for bad luck, you'd have no luck. That's tough.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Yeah. I'd like to mention real quick, if you don't
mind your collared Laurel, if he's still listening, he is
on our prayer list, because prayer does make a difference.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I'm sure he is still listening, and I appreciate that,
and I'm sure he does as well.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Okay, what but now my question is when you're sending
me that traditional Thanksgiving Day food.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
We're going to fly the turkeys over russ Do you
do the traditional food or no?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Well I do personally, but the country no.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, So how difficult is it to secure a turkey
in the Philippines. I assume it's not.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
It's not difficult. You can get them. But similar to
the people, rather small.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Really really did they breath turkeys there? I mean I
assume they must, right.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yeah, in the northern part of in the Aurora province,
they do. A large turkey here would be maybe ten pounds.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Well that's yeah, that's that's enough for a family four
don't you think.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah, Well, the first year I came here, I prepared
a traditional US Thanksgiving Day for the people that I knew,
and as a matter of fact, that I was a
decent cook. I cooked two of them to make sure,
and the only thing left after was the bones.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
All right, that's that means you're good cook. Well, look,
you're in our thoughts in prayers, and I know that
you will keep all of the nice side listeners in
your thoughts in press as well. Eugene, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Hey Wed, thank you God breath.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Dan, all right, right back at you, Thanks you.
Speaker 9 (36:04):
Ge.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
All right, we had dropped one call off, but we
have David san Anton to wrap it up for us. Dave,
you were next on Nightsiger, Right ahead.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
Yeah, Dan, your remark to that one fellow saying that
unless it's an extreme circumstances, Donald Trump's going to take
the presidency. I'm sure you think that extreme circumstances is
the threat of nuclear war right now between US and Russia.
And I advise all these people in the market to
be thankful for this Thanksgiving day out fight get along
(36:34):
because it may be our last. I don't what it's
really Biden's supposed to be ordering again, but Biden has
it's those deep state people, those globalists, they're the Defense Department.
They're sending them over those missiles and telling them to
shoot him at Russia. Russia shot him down, luckily. Luckily
(36:55):
who shot him down?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Well, I heard tonight. Correct me if I'm wrong. I
heard that there were I'm not sure if they said
six or eight, but two of them were intercepted.
Speaker 8 (37:07):
Yeah, and uh and uh putents have been on the air.
I listened to him on the air saying We're going
to hit you with nuclear warheads, not Ukraine if they
shoot the manats.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Oh, well, earlier. I don't know if you were listening
earlier this week, Actually, I think it was last night.
I raised the possibility, uh, and it was a hopeful
possibility that maybe President Biden and former President Trump had
(37:43):
agreed to sort of a good cop bad cop strategy,
and that maybe maybe Biden was going to make some
of these missiles available. I have no idea how many
missiles are available. I think that part of the reasons
we didn't make them available before because we were concerned
about reducing our own stock by by too great an amount.
(38:07):
But the idea was whether or not this might give
President Trump a little extra opportunity to say to putin Look,
we can, we can deactivate those missiles, but we want
you to to back off. You know, the typical good cop,
bad cop strategy. You above all know exactly what I
mean when I say that I don't know. I mean
(38:29):
I couldn't. I couldn't understand. And I'll give you the
final word here. I could not understand why, with two
months left in his administration, Biden would do something that
he has hesitated to do now for nearly three years.
Speaker 8 (38:43):
Yeah, I don't. I don't understand it either, Dare. I
can't add any more to it. I just I'm just praying.
I'm just praying.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Well, if you were listening last night, I talked about
Archduke Ferdinand in the start of World War One, which
I've heard that Okay, good enough. I mean, I just
wanted to remind people of that. It's as simple as
it's as simple as that. Well, Dave, Yeah, let's we'll
pray for Eugene out there in the Philippines and uh, everybody.
Speaker 8 (39:12):
Lost his mom, pray for him.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah, Laura, Laura, uh, regular caller. Thanks Dave, we'll talk again, okay,
thank you very much to you by next week. Okay,
thanks all right. So that kind of wraps it tonight,
simple as that. I we tried to deal with a
couple of subjects. The one that surprised me, uh that
(39:38):
we we had a good conversation with Dustin Delano of
the New England Fisherman's Stewardship Association and Grant Provost with
the New England uh, the New Englanders for Offshore Win Coalition.
But hey, we present topics and give you an opportunity
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
Dan Ray for the Untellings, Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, we are talking about your family Thanksgiving dinner. Now,
I'm hoping that all of you have some group of
people that you will spend part of Thanksgiving with, And
in most cases it's going to be family members. Sometimes
they're family members who you're not especially close to, but
(00:29):
they're family members. Involves cousins and involves in laws, and
you may see them just a handful of times a year.
But I gotta tell you, it's an important day. And
of course it gets complicated because people have strong feelings
about the election that has just passed. It's not as
bad as I thought it was going to be. It
(00:50):
really wasn't. I mean, I was afraid that we would
have a really close election with electoral votes would be
you know, two seven three to I don't know two
sixty five or whatever that would be. And I was thinking,
oh my god, can you imagine. But it wasn't that close. Uh,
And it doesn't matter at this point. I think everybody
(01:12):
has well they haven't accepted, but they certainly understand that
there's nothing much that can be done to challenge the
results of a decisive election. So my question is how
are you going to handle it? I you know, in
years past people have said, well, you just don't talk politics.
Don't talk politics the elephant in the room. You know,
(01:34):
what are you going to talk about the red Sox?
I mean, I guess you could, but that's not going
to be particularly uplifting. Talk about the patriots, I don't
think so. I mean, talk about Drake May and say
hey we've got a quarterback of the future, but emphasis
is on future. Talk about the Bruins. How they doing?
You talk about the celfic. Sure, but you know what
(01:55):
I'm saying is that it will come up. It will
come up. How are you going to handle it? I'm
suggesting you handle it politely and you say either you say, gee,
I got to be honest with you. I prefer not
to say who I voted for, which is your right,
you're progative. Or you could say I voted for Harris
or I voted for Trump. Who have you voted for?
I voted for the libertaire whomever, And people need to
(02:18):
respect you for that. What whether you vote a Democrat
or Republican. The people in the room might disagree with you,
but they have to respect you, and I think this
would be really a place to get that conversation started.
Now we'll continue, let's keep going here. I'm going to
go to Florence, Florence. How will you celebrate Thanksgiving? And
(02:40):
what do you think do you think politics will come up?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, first of all, all, yeah, we don't talk politics
at all.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Okay, Well that's one way to approach it.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, we talk about a myth of all different things, okay,
and we never talk politics.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, then you're lucky. How big a gathering does your
family generally have?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Ten to fourteen?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Ten to fourteen, that's pretty regular normal size. Are these
Are you the host this year? Or does it rotate
or what?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
My son?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh good?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Okay, all right, And I just wanted to say I
think a lot of people out there are ridiculous to
let their political feelings interfere with their relationship.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, these are biological relationships. You can pick your friends,
but you can't pick your relatives.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Right, And I seem to be hearing that over the years,
you know, especially this year, it gets you know, from
other people.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
In general, and I think I think it could it
could have been worse this year, for in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
A total catastrophe, but it didn't quite get that far.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, which is great.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah yeah, but yeah, so I may think it's boring,
but it isn't. It's good to stay away from politics.
My father told me years ago when I was a teenager,
(04:49):
that we don't talk politics or religion. And I'm not
sure you've you've heard that.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh, I think I think everyone has heard that. And
I think the the religion is even worse than the politics,
because you're you're you're diving deep into somebody's you know,
belief system and their soul, and uh, you know, at
least politics people can share. People change politics all the time.
You know, someone will say, well, I voted for Biden,
but now I'm going to above for Trump, or or
I voted for Trump the first time, but I'm not
(05:18):
voting for the second time. People change politics all the time.
Very rarely do people change religions. I mean, I think
that religions sort of get instilled in you when you
were in young People might become atheists or agnostics and
realize they don't have a religious belief. But very rarely
do you all of a sudden find out that someone
went from being this to that so I think it's
(05:40):
a good I think it's a solid plan that you
and your family have. But you know, if it does
come up, hey, whoever you voted for it, I'm never
going to ask you. I could care less. You're my
friend either way, and I think that you should treat
your other family members as well. Thanks. Thanks so much, Florence.
We'll talk soon. Thanks. If I don't talk to you,
haven't that great Thanksgiving? Okay?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You just saying thank you?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I will thank you. I will. All right, We'll take
a quick break here six one seven one line six
one seven, two five, four, ten thirty coming right back
on Nightside.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Now, back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Nightside Studios on w b Z the news radio.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Back we go. Let's go to Suzanne. Suzanne, you were
up late tonight. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
So say?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I love l Dan, Thanks for taking like all. I
have much to be thankful for this ice skiving. I
will have here in my apartment, a car, the light
nun and my friend Meredith Sylvaine who is singing turkey
pot pies. I have all good fowers and it's fit
(06:49):
Ray so will be lovely if it does that, and
we will Paula takes off the menu.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Susanne, that's what we're talking about. Love. I'm delighted.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
How I hear a certain age, but either rire sad
the catboy be able to get out off the dead
without breaking your help.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Well that's good news too, Susanne. Thanks very much for
the call. As always, I appreciate all the information. Thank
you very much. Let me come next to Eileen and
how I Leen? How are you?
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Oh? Well, I'm fine and I am just uh. I
wanted to say that, Well, the last few years, I
have a son who I've gone to the to what's
called the National Day of Mourning down in Plymouth, and uh,
(07:50):
that's because of the dispute over the pilgrim's treatment of
Native Americans. Yes, and last yeah, last year I went
with my son and the whole demonstration involved Palestinian protesters.
(08:17):
What was that about? Is that was that the problems
in Israel?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I guess absolutely?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
All right, Well, this year I'm just glad that I'm
not going to be alone on Thanksgiving and.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I'm going to try something to be thankful for. Obviously
there will be people, sadly who will be alone. There'll
be there are people who have serious mental health issues
who by by choice, decide to live outside, you know,
every day of the year, and they may be alone
as well. But I was encouraging people that if you
(08:57):
had a neighbor who was alone, incorporate them into what
you're doing, even if you just invite them over to
have a drink or come over and and have have
the meal, you know, the Thanksgiving meal that's that would be.
And you know whether and who cares what their politics are,
who cares what their religion is. They're a human being
and they're an American. They should not be alone.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
So right, well, I'm I'm very grateful that. Well, my
son is in school, so he's got a lot of
homework to do, and I haven't heard anything from him
about Thanksgiving or either.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Of my.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
None of my three sons.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, I'm sure that they they're going to get around
to it. It's still still got nine days, I lean,
I'm sure you'll have a good time.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Yeah, and most of all, it's going to try to
keep my big mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
All right, All right, that's not bad advice either, But
don't hesitate to tell people what you think if if
you're so inclined. I'm not telling people what to do.
I'm just saying, don't be don't be ashamed. And you
don't have to say who you voted for. And you
you you can. You can choose to say who you
voted for. It's your choice, it's your prerogative. We still
live in a free country. Don't let anyone take that
(10:19):
away from you. And don't be right. Don't don't let
anybody try to embarrass you or put you on the spot.
Simple as that. Stand your ground exactly. Yeah, good night,
you for calling. Good night. Let me go to war
and Warren you're next time. Next, I go ahead, Warren.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Hey, Dan As you know, like I'm in media just
like me, just like you're just different. You know where
I ran my music pages and all stuff like that. Sure,
I've lost I've lost, you know, friends on both sides
of the aisle, you know, from being you know, from
being really extremists, you know, and like you know these people,
(10:58):
and I think it all comes down to you, you know,
like if you're going to be pompous and you're going
to be like you know, stick your finger at them
and wave your finger and it'say, oh yeah, my guy one,
and all stuff like that. You know, yeah, then maybe
you know, you know, maybe don't go to Thanksgiving dinner
(11:21):
if you're going to do that, you know, because that's antagonizing.
If you know, people antagonized. I mean maybe just you know,
don't be you know, and antagonistic during the meal. Yeah,
you can get me. I don't. I think I think
politics is inevitable, you know, I think you know, you
(11:43):
talk about the economy and how expensive things are, and
you know you talk about education, I mean, politics, encumfadences,
so so many things. And yeah, they really can't avoid
it at the table.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, but at the same time, everybody could could could
keep calm. Uh, they don't have a decent conversation, and
and whether no one should laud it over and the
Trump people should not be lauding high we want the
Harris people should be uh, you know, confident enough to say, hey,
we we didn't win, but we had we thought we
(12:22):
had the better candidate or what if you can you can.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Handle it in a you can handle it, you can
handle it respectfully with with calm. Debates can agree with
you more could agree And I mean like like like
my gathering is going to be like ten people and
four of them are are liberals, and six of us
(12:45):
are conservatives. So I'm just afraid that my brother in
law is going to be like one of those boisterous people.
And you know, say you got to you know, making
the other, you know, making the four liberals feel bad.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know, you take them, take them ahead of time
and just say, hey, look, you know, the only thing
worse than a sore loser is a is a sore
winner or a bad.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Winner exactly exactly fixed and uh.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And and feel you know, put yourself in their position.
How would you feel if if you're your person get lost.
That's all have a little a little empathy and we'll
all get through the day. But I think again, the idea,
you know, if you walk into home, well there's gonna
be no politics here. You know, we're gonna we're.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Gonna dig out again. I think, I think, I think
you can't avoid it because it because it didn't involved
pretty much everything everything that that we have to deal
with in life. So it's like, that's why that's why
elections are important. You know.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Sounds good one. I'm with you. I appreciate it, Thank
you much.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Talk soon, okay, okay, I'll talk Happy.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Thanksgiving If I don't talk to you. I'm sure I will,
but yeah, thank let's keep rolling. He're gonna get at
least one more in before the break. Gonna go to
Alan Saugus l welcome next time. I say, I'll go right.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
Ahead, Dan. I agree with that gentleman, that politics is
really pervasive at our whole society. It deals with how
how society runs there and it is hard, but I
am I've been told no politics, and I'll abide by that.
But it's hard when the media has called one side Hitler, racist, rapist, misogynist.
(14:24):
It's hard to come back from that where they just
they just dumped on Trump so much. You know that
some of these people that are against him find it
hard to accept us that supported Trump. You know, it
seems to be way one sided. We might not have
liked Harris, thought she was vapid, an empty suit or something,
(14:45):
but then it went on to you know, some of
this stuff was crazy how they threw it at Trump.
But anyways, I have a brother that we've fought a
lot about politics back and forth, and I just saw
him today and I have no trouble when I see
him in person. When you're in a car, you could
give the finger and yell at someone, but you wouldn't
do that face to face. And when you're texting, you know,
(15:07):
it's so distant in a way, but it's not what
you would do in person. And I think the thing
you should talk about at Thanksgiving is the memories of
your loved ones, all the fun and child. Yeah, you
don't get to choose your friends, so but these are
the people who have the most memories in those first
twelve to fourteen years of your life, the formative years,
and that's what's fun to reminisce about about the people
(15:29):
who passed on how funny things happened. I think that's
the thing we did one day at a little impromptu
birthday party for a little five year old one day,
and we were all there telling stories that we didn't
know about things that we did, different things that happened
in our lives, and you know, trying out for a
hockey team and fallen down and different funny stories just
organically that And you don't have to talk about you.
(15:51):
You're not going to talk about your mortgage, you know,
so while you're not going to talk about God, you
have your own beliefs that you've over your adult years,
you have managed and made your decisions. But you know,
I sometimes come on as a town cryer, trying to
show them, don't you see this, don't you see that?
And it doesn't work because they're adults, and they'll they'll
(16:12):
take from the table of the media and establishment that
they want. And if they decide to accept the lies
that I think are lies about someone, that I just
feel bad. I almost feel bad, like you know that
you know where TDS is right, Trump Trump's arrangement syndrome.
I actually feel a little bad for some of these
people that they can't look at it with a sober
mind and realize they've been they've been hoodwinked a little bit,
(16:35):
you know, and bought into it too much.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
So I have to just tell, you know, maybe they'll
come around.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I just you know, just approach it with the attitude
of hey, it's yeah, how many more thanksgivings do you
have with those people? I mean, I don't know how
old or young the group is, but you know, a
year from now, it could be that the same group
doesn't gather. So I mean, just enjoy it, you know,
(17:02):
and enjoy it for the day it is. And I
don't think you have to bear your soul, and I
certainly you know, you know, you can talk about how
it turned out, and you can talk about, hey, there's
some positives. I mean, four years ago we were still
battling over the votes and all that. Thank goodness that
(17:24):
is that's not happening this time. So we had an
election which was more decisive. You know, they the people
who you agree with, you know, don't rub it in
people's faces. And the people who disagree with you, you know,
they should not be looking down at you that somehow
they're smarter because they didn't vote for Trump. That's quick thing.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Yeah, the most precious thing we have is time. Like
you said, who's going to be here next year? And
that's why I think talking about the past is fun.
It's a reminiscent time and you can folks us on that,
like about her, Remember they did this, when we did that,
and that has nothing to do with you know, the
here and now survival of you.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know, I mean, if you want to do that,
if everyone wants to do that, that's fine. Look remember
at some point they'll be talking about you. Remember Alf
from Saugust, Oh, he used to make just make phone
calls to those crazy talk shows. I mean, all right,
well go to Dan right back at You're gonna talk
(18:27):
to you soon, all right. You got a couple of
open lines one at six one, seven, two four, ten thirty,
and I got a couple at six one, seven, nine three,
ten thirty. What I'm trying to do is basically give
you a strategy how to deal with whatever you're going
to deal with on Thanksgiving. Don't let it ruin the day.
I mean, the last thing you want is somebody to
(18:48):
throw a scene at a Thanksgiving dinner and either criticize,
attack with such vituperation that it becomes uncomfortable. And one
of the ways you can defend against that is laugh
at people. Laugh at them. Say the election's over. Okay,
you know, we can talk about, you know, what mistakes
were made, but it's over. It's like the World Series
(19:12):
is over. The Dodgers beat the Yankees. You could be
the biggest Yankee fan in the world. You can't change
the results of the twenty twenty four World Series. The
other side can't change the results. Again, you know, don't
rub it in their face, don't don't allow people to
dictate to you, or conversely, you know, the Harris supporters.
(19:38):
You know, she ran under difficult circumstances. I think take
some consolation in that, and that there's always next year
in sports, and there's always four years down the line.
And Donald Trump made it hard on himself by doing
some of the crazy stuff he did in January twenty
twenty one. And I still think it's amazing that we
(19:59):
have a historical event in America that did not happen
in the twentieth century. One time before it happened that
a president was elected to a second term non consecutively,
and Grover Cleveland was the president that had that happened.
(20:21):
That's the only other time. I mean, it's a long time.
We've been a country, quote a quarter of a millennium,
two hundred and fifty years. This is only the second
time you witnessed it. Whether you're just repelled by it
or or you delight in it, we all experienced a
(20:42):
historical event. Let's hope. Let's hope that we can look
back a year from now and say, hey, no, he
did some good things, he did some goofy things, but
he's going to be president unless something extraordinary intervenes. Beginning
on January twentieth, so having said that, I would like
(21:05):
to continue to talk about this until midnight. And because
maybe if you want to talk about any other subject,
if you want to throw a subject the idea at me,
I'll give you a incorporate, will incorporate a little open
lines here. I'm trying to basically help you get through Thanksgiving.
(21:26):
I'm not a psychiatrist, but I'm a better psychiatrist, in
my opinion than the psychiatrist that we had quoted who
was on MSNBC, who essentially took the position takes the
position that somehow, some way she's superior to people. Let's
let's play one one bite out here so people know
(21:48):
what kicked what got me going on this? This is
this has cut eight C rob eight C.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
And I actually talked to you know, adults as well
as parents for children. I mean, I think, you know,
I don't think that you should force children. I don't
think you should have forced adults to be around people
just because they're your family. I think there is a
level you know, need to establish boundaries. And if you
feel like you need to establish boundaries with people, whether
(22:16):
they're your family or not, I think you should very
much be entitled to do so, and I think it
may be essential for your mental health.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
This is a psychiatrist from Yale who obviously is upset
with the result of the election on MSNBC talking to
Joy Reid that that's what they're teaching at Yale. Right there,
no wonder, we're in trouble as a country. Back on nights,
I get some open lines. Give us a call back.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Right after this, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray
on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Let's go to lauro In. Lynn Laurel, welcome back. How
are you sir?
Speaker 11 (22:57):
Oh yes, sir, long time no here. Thank you for
loving me join your show. I wish happiness for all
of your listeners, Glenn and Brighton and Aliston and Maine
to the name a few. Thank you so much for
allowing me to join you on this conversation. So excuse
(23:19):
me if I get a little emotional this year Thanksgiving.
If you all you and your listeners and keep me
and your thoughts and prayers, because I just lost my
mom forty nine years old, had her for forty nine years.
Two years ago. She got diagnosed. Last year, she got
(23:41):
diagnosed with dementia. We saw symptoms like years a couple
of years before we didn't really pay attention to it.
So it's going to be myself, my twin sister, and
my dad. Maybe a few nephews, but I think it's
mostly going to be myself, my dad, and my twin sister.
Is going to be hot for us. We just lost
(24:03):
mom in September. Again, if you can just leave us
and your dawson prayers.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
We had a bad year. Uh.
Speaker 11 (24:11):
Two of our cats died in March. My mom's cat
was one of them, and my twin sister and son's
cat was another one. Both of them were sick for
about two weeks and they became violently ill, stopped eating,
stopped drinking, and they both died the same day, hours apart.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So sometimes things work out pretty weird that way. Huh.
You know, maybe maybe there is a they're they're together
with your mom and who knows, you know. I mean,
that's that's very possible. Okay.
Speaker 11 (24:47):
I lost my job too back in April. I think
that was God's will saying, hey, spend more time with mom.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
You know.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
Sad to say, but that's just we just had a terrible,
terrible year. I used to work in the media, like
you myself. You know, I used to work in radio.
I missed it terribly. Trying to get back into radio,
if not, maybe get into the healthcare because I have
experience in both, like office work, so I'm trying to
(25:16):
get either or.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But yeah, what did what did you do in radio? Laura?
What did you? Laura? What did you do in radio?
Speaker 11 (25:23):
I was a producer, just like your producer doesn't work
producing radio shows for your competitor in Brighton. I don't
want to say the name I also used to I
started out actually a kiss on the way back in
the late nineties, actually mid nineties. I used to work
with JJ Wright and McMahon, all the old school persons
(25:46):
I used.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
To work with. Yeah that's a great resume.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
Yeah yeah, just trying to get back into the game.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
But it's hard.
Speaker 11 (25:53):
You know, I'm not giving up. You know, something's bound happened.
But you know, just right now, I'm having, like the
last couple of nights, I've been having a dream working
the radio. So hopefully that will you know, hopefully that's
telling me something. But you know, because a good thing
is our still alive. You know, that's a good thing.
But if you can ask your listeners your regular listeners
(26:15):
who might know me, who might remember me. I used
to call like about a year or two ago. We'll
just keep me in your career.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Consider it done, laurrow and hopefully there's a better year
around the corner.
Speaker 11 (26:26):
Okay, most definitely. Wis should you happiness as well?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Right back at you. Thanks Laura, to talk to you soon,
you too, Mine call again. Let's go to Ken in Waltham,
Ken you were next on nice side.
Speaker 12 (26:39):
Welcome, Thank you Dan, good evening.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (26:44):
I was thinking just one thing that, you know, I
think feelings are so raw after this election, in particular,
that if people don't normally talk about politics and Thanksgiving
and they're just not sure if they want to, you know,
bring something up or not that you know, I think
(27:05):
there there'd be no penalty in waiting a year maybe
maybe starting a political conversation that Thanksgiving might work better,
uh for them on an on an off election cycle
year of things.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, no, I unders said that. But but do you
do you fear or do you have apprehensions that you
know you'll be hitting there and someone's going to bring
a subject up?
Speaker 12 (27:31):
None at all, not at all. I I yeah, the
Thanksgiving I go to now it'll it's very it's in
my laws and it's a very big family and everybody's
pretty much on the same side politically, and I don't
think it will come up at all. Actually, I mean
there's a lot of just because there'll always be there'll
be new family members to talk about. There have been
(27:54):
new babies born and and people we've lost, and it's
it's kind of that kind of uh sensation. But my
own family when I when we used to have Thanksgiving, yeah,
there were all these political discussions, and I think if
we always you know, try to be accurate with our
information and not be personal, we were able to have
(28:14):
productive conversations. And Dan, I think you epitomize that, and
I think you said a great example.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Well, I appreciate it, and I'm just saying that maybe
if it does come up, maybe you can use this
show to diffuse it a little bit and say, hey,
come on, we're here. Let's you know, if you voted
for for Trump, uh, you know, take take your win
and uh and be gracious you know. I mean, I
love when you watch a sporting event and at the
(28:42):
end of the game, the smart guy is going to say, man,
we just were able to win and we beat a
great team. They're so talented, but we were able to
pull it out. And someone's gracious. You get the guy
who says, you know, we're number one. They stn't you know.
I mean what you're all almost taking away from your
own credit. You want to build up your opponent and say, hey,
(29:04):
they ran a good race and and somehow we're able
to win. So you can be gracious, uh in victory
and magnanimous and defeat, you can always say hey, look,
you know, look look back, look back at the presidential elections.
You got uh. You know, President Biden was a Democrat,
Donald Trump was a Republican before him, President Obamba. It
swings back and forth if you if you study history.
(29:27):
So yeah, you know, don't let it ruin the day,
I guess is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
No, I'm with you. So I I maybe about six
years ago I wrote a letter to you know, the
editor of Time magazine, and I said, you know, instead
a Person of the Year, how about a couple of
the Year. And I nominated Kelly and Conway and George Conway,
and I said that if they can get along. So
(29:56):
this is.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Remember before that before for them. You had James Carville
and Mary Mattlin.
Speaker 13 (30:05):
Yeah, you know, and there's there's probably more than a
few marriages, you know, within your your realm of knowledge
and with mine.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And you have people who are on opposite sides. But
that doesn't mean that they can't respect each other and
actually love one another despite that difference. I mean, I
have you know, I think there's there's families that that
have Red Sox fans and Yeake fans. Yeah, I mean
it's so it's just natural and and have some they
(30:38):
have some fun with it, I think, And and don't
don't look. It's what's done is done. If if if
Trump has learned from his past mistakes and he does well,
we will all benefit. If he doesn't, the Republican Party
will suffer defeats in twenty uh twenty six and twenty
(31:00):
twenty eight. And that's the way it works in America.
So you'll handle it. Don't worry. You're gonna be okay, Ken,
all right.
Speaker 12 (31:08):
I'm fine. I'm I'm just making with it. I guess
you know, if I had to say one word, I'd say,
think empathy. Right, people are on both sides are really
really sensitive right now, and yeah, they know they I
think we're okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. You
had a final thought, go ahead?
Speaker 8 (31:30):
No, No, that was it.
Speaker 12 (31:31):
I it was I think empathy. They're they're very very rough, yeah,
very very raw feelings, and.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
No one, no one ever loses if everyone's empathetic, if
you can kind of put yourself in the other person's
shoes and okay, you know, if you're a Trumpster, you'll
you'll you lost big in twenty twenty and you know,
or you lost clothes to twenty and you won, so
you you you you you should be you know happy.
If you're Harris, you can look back and say, hey,
(32:02):
I get Delta a bad set of cards here. You know,
if President Biden had a year ago said hey, I'm
not up to go a second term, there would have
been a legitimate Democratic primary nomination, and maybe she would
have won, maybe someone else would have won, but she
would have been battle tested and maybe you'll kind of
get thrown in as she did. I you could. You
(32:24):
could look at this so many ways. You could be
empathetic in it.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Right, but it's not over.
Speaker 12 (32:28):
That's I think my point.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
Yes, it's never people are worried, right, people are, but
it's not it's not my recommendation.
Speaker 12 (32:39):
I was just you know, if you do bring it up,
if topics are brought up, that's great. And if not,
you know, and you're you don't know which way to go,
you want to wait a year. I think that's fine too,
and then everybody should listen to Night's Side because I think.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm with you on all three of those points. Thanks again,
I appreciate you fair enough. Doctor. Soon we'll take a
quick break. I got Paula, Dave, and Eugene coming up.
We're gonna get to them all, that's for sure. If
you want to try six one seven, two ten thirty
or six one seven, nine three ten thirty, go ahead,
but I guarantee Paula, Dave, and Eugene I'll give it
a shot. We'll be back after this.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm gonna get everybody in here. We have just enough
time for everyone quickly. Eugene is next. Eugene is in
the Philippines. Eugene, I understand you guys have had a
lot of rain out there. We have had none but
you've got big problems with flooding. Are you doing? Okay?
Speaker 12 (33:43):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Better of fact, from mid September to a few days ago,
eight typhoons.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Except for bad luck, you'd have no luck. That's tough.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Yeah. I'd like to mention real quick, if you don't
mind your collared Laurel, if he's still listening, he is
on our prayer list, because prayer does make a difference.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I'm sure he is still listening, and I appreciate that,
and I'm sure he does as well.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Okay, what but now my question is when you're sending
me that traditional Thanksgiving Day food.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
We're going to fly the turkeys over russ Do you
do the traditional food or no?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Well I do personally, but the country no.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, So how difficult is it to secure a turkey
in the Philippines. I assume it's not.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
It's not difficult. You can get them. But similar to
the people, rather small.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Really really did they breath turkeys there? I mean I
assume they must, right.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yeah, in the northern part of in the Aurora province,
they do. A large turkey here would be maybe ten pounds.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Well that's yeah, that's that's enough for a family four
don't you think.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah, Well, the first year I came here, I prepared
a traditional US Thanksgiving Day for the people that I knew,
and as a matter of fact, that I was a
decent cook. I cooked two of them to make sure,
and the only thing left after was the bones.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
All right, that's that means you're good cook. Well, look,
you're in our thoughts in prayers, and I know that
you will keep all of the nice side listeners in
your thoughts in press as well. Eugene, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Hey Wed, thank you God breath.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Dan, all right, right back at you, Thanks you.
Speaker 9 (36:04):
Ge.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
All right, we had dropped one call off, but we
have David san Anton to wrap it up for us. Dave,
you were next on Nightsiger, Right ahead.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
Yeah, Dan, your remark to that one fellow saying that
unless it's an extreme circumstances, Donald Trump's going to take
the presidency. I'm sure you think that extreme circumstances is
the threat of nuclear war right now between US and Russia.
And I advise all these people in the market to
be thankful for this Thanksgiving day out fight get along
(36:34):
because it may be our last. I don't what it's
really Biden's supposed to be ordering again, but Biden has
it's those deep state people, those globalists, they're the Defense Department.
They're sending them over those missiles and telling them to
shoot him at Russia. Russia shot him down, luckily. Luckily
(36:55):
who shot him down?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Well, I heard tonight. Correct me if I'm wrong. I
heard that there were I'm not sure if they said
six or eight, but two of them were intercepted.
Speaker 8 (37:07):
Yeah, and uh and uh putents have been on the air.
I listened to him on the air saying We're going
to hit you with nuclear warheads, not Ukraine if they
shoot the manats.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Oh, well, earlier. I don't know if you were listening
earlier this week, Actually, I think it was last night.
I raised the possibility, uh, and it was a hopeful
possibility that maybe President Biden and former President Trump had
(37:43):
agreed to sort of a good cop bad cop strategy,
and that maybe maybe Biden was going to make some
of these missiles available. I have no idea how many
missiles are available. I think that part of the reasons
we didn't make them available before because we were concerned
about reducing our own stock by by too great an amount.
(38:07):
But the idea was whether or not this might give
President Trump a little extra opportunity to say to putin Look,
we can, we can deactivate those missiles, but we want
you to to back off. You know, the typical good cop,
bad cop strategy. You above all know exactly what I
mean when I say that I don't know. I mean
(38:29):
I couldn't. I couldn't understand. And I'll give you the
final word here. I could not understand why, with two
months left in his administration, Biden would do something that
he has hesitated to do now for nearly three years.
Speaker 8 (38:43):
Yeah, I don't. I don't understand it either, Dare. I
can't add any more to it. I just I'm just praying.
I'm just praying.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Well, if you were listening last night, I talked about
Archduke Ferdinand in the start of World War One, which
I've heard that Okay, good enough. I mean, I just
wanted to remind people of that. It's as simple as
it's as simple as that. Well, Dave, Yeah, let's we'll
pray for Eugene out there in the Philippines and uh, everybody.
Speaker 8 (39:12):
Lost his mom, pray for him.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah, Laura, Laura, uh, regular caller. Thanks Dave, we'll talk again, okay,
thank you very much to you by next week. Okay,
thanks all right. So that kind of wraps it tonight,
simple as that. I we tried to deal with a
couple of subjects. The one that surprised me, uh that
(39:38):
we we had a good conversation with Dustin Delano of
the New England Fisherman's Stewardship Association and Grant Provost with
the New England uh, the New Englanders for Offshore Win Coalition.
But hey, we present topics and give you an opportunity
to participate. Every night. I'll be back to our night
on night Side. I hope all of you will be
(40:00):
as well. Remind you you can listen to past hours
of Nightside if you missed, just go to Nightside on
demand dot com. And of course you can always get
Nightside gear as presidence of the upcoming Hanukkah and Christmas season,
sweatshirts like I'm wearing now and if you'd like to
see the sweatshirt I'm wearing now, WHI says Nightside with
Dan Ray, join us on Facebook. I will be there
(40:22):
on Nightside with Dan Ray and Facebook in about two
or three minutes in the meantime, remind you all dogs,
all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's my pale
Charlie Rays, who passed fourteen years ago in February. That's
whe all your pets are who have passed. They loved
you and you love them. I do believe you'll see
them again. Hopes to get tomorrow night on Nightside. Have
a great Wednesday everyone, and also pray for some ray
(40:42):
and I think we're gonna get someone on Thursday. Have
a great night. Thanks Rob Brooks, Thanks Marita,
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