December 8, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan asked listeners if they feel the Trump Administrations handling of the Venezuela boats is a good thing, or a bad thing.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's nice, Dan, I'm telling you Boston's NIEF Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I was tempted to do a poll, but I'm not
going to. I was tempted to ask people what was
a greater concern whether the Patriots make the super Bowl
or their energy costs, their energy bills. I will save
that for another night, because I do think that there's
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a substantial number of people who will tell me that
they're more concerned about whether the Patriots make the super
Bowl than their energy costs. And I think that the
politicians understand that. And we're not going to see much
relief from energy costs here in New England. And again,
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if you are, you know it's it's it's a killer.
It's a killer, obviously, and but we'll save that for
for another night. I'd like to just change the topics
and the focus a little bit here and go to
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a subject we have not talked about, but one that
I think is important, and that is what is going
on with the US in Venezuela. We have not talked
about that before, so I would like to just take
the temperature of my audience on this. I think most
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of us know what is going on. We probably all
have the same information. Probably some of us would argue
we need to know more about what's going on, but
I think that is always the case. But what we
know is that there have been a whole group of
boats blown up by US military forces in the Caribbean.
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The Trump administration says these are boats that are being
used by Naco terrorists to transport It looks again, I
don't know what this source of information is. I would
hope that we would have some operatives on the ground
in Venezuela so we would know who's in these boats. Now,
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the boats looked to me as if they are narcotics
vessels to convey narcotics from Venezuela to America. I also
know that there are lots of people in this country
every year, particularly young people who die. You had that
story down at Providence College over the weekend where there
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apparently were seven Providence College kids who overdosed on something.
There are three people under arrest for having supplied some
form of drug something to this group, whether they sold
them at the party or whether they sold stuff to
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someone who brought the stuff to the party. Seven people,
and several of the seven people who were in tough
shape had to be revived by narcan. So, look, that
can happen at Providence College to seven students can happen
anywhere in America, and it has happened everywhere in America.
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There's no doubt about that. So I will go on
the record and tell you that I don't have a
single problem with what the Trump administration is doing to
these Narco terrorists. Okay. However, however, there are some members
of the loyal opposition in Congress who were raising questions
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about this. Okay. For example, Maxine Waters, I am a
member of Congress from California, have heard from her before.
She believes that the President of the United States is
a killer, striking these Narco terrorists. Cut number two. Please
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rob the station is a killer. I am outraged that
the way that on his own about any consultation, he
doesn't know who they are, whether there is whether they're guilty.
He should follow the laws.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The laws does not allow are intained for the President
of the United States to just kill anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That he wants to killt No, I would remind the
gentle lady from California that President Obama engaged in a
very interesting attack on a Muslim cleric in Yemen, which
I supported. I think that this guy was a problem
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for us, and I think that President Obama did the
right thing. But I don't see much of a difference
other than scale in what President Trump is doing now.
Senator Timmy Duckworth is quite upset about this, but she
seems a little confused. I'm going to ask you to play, please, Rob,
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I'm going to ask you to play, but hold off
for a second. Cut for a She is asked about
having seen the video. She seems to say yes, and
then she's asked again and she seems to say no.
Curious response. Cut for a rob.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Senator, have you seen the video?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I have seen the video, and it is deeply disturbing.
I am mostly concerned with the fact that we are
putting our American servicemen and women in jeopardy here. We're
putting them in jeopardy in case they ever get shot down.
We're putting them in legal jeopardy. They could be brought
up in international criminal courts, and so what we're doing
here is taking those professionals or utmost essionals and putting
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them into harm's way. And that's what bothers me the
most about what Pete heck said is doing. He is
the least qualified set creet defense in our nation's history,
and he's very cavalier about doing things. The fact of
the matter is only Congress can decide that we can
go to war, and there was no such declaration made.
I just want to make sure that I get this accurate.
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You have seen the classified video of this particular strike,
the first strike and then the double tap as it's known. No,
I've just seen what's been available in the media. I've
read the food report, but I've not seen the actual video.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
There's a little inconsistency there, but hey, that's okay. So
but the best SoundBite of the week came from a
congressman down in Connecticut. Now again, remember if you had
a child or a parent who died from fentiel, you
might see this a little differently, because this is if
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this if these folks were transporting weapons to America to
kill Americans. If they were, if they were transporting you know,
some some form of shoulder fired grenades, and that's we
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knew they were coming in. Again, this is all premised
on the proposition that the Trump administration is doing their
due diligence. That's that's all we're talking about. So this
is this is Representative Jim Hines from Connecticut. Uh and
he somehow his his characterization this is a forty second
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sound by his characterization of who I think are terrorists.
They are Narco terrorists. He calls them, and you'll hear
it say sailors like people who are out on Cape
cod in July in a sailboat. Representative Jim Hines of
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Connecticut cut a rup.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
What I saw in that room was one of the
most troubling things I've seen in my time in public service.
You have two individuals in clear distress, without any means
of locomotion, with a destroyed vessel, who were.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Killed by the United States.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Under the Dood Manual for abiding by the Laws of
Armed Conflict. The specific example given of an impermissible action
is attacking a shipwreck. Any American who sees the video
that I saw will see the United States military attacking
shipwrecked sailors.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Shipwrecked sailors, yup, they were out for a little crew.
I'm not sure if the family was with them, but
they were sailing around and all of a sudden we
hit them, hit them hard. And they're not terrorists. They're not.
They're they're not transporting narcotics, deadly narcotics. Absolutely not. They
don't have five big horsepower engines on the back of
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those speedboats. Absolutely not. They're sailors. Representative, you're a disgrace.
You're an absolute disgrace to use the word sailors. Just
I mean, that's that's like saying that the nine to
eleven hijackers they were nine to eleven hijackers, they were
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back up pilots. That's what you're saying. Uh, Congressman, you're
a disgrace. We're gonna go to phone calls six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
You could disagree on this, as I'm sure some of
you will, but please don't try to call them sailors.
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They're drug runners, plain and simple. If you want to
call them sailors, then then then assume that I'm going
to assume that you would have think thought that the
terrors the board nine to eleven, who who killed the
American pilots, the US pilots were just back up pilots
and they were trying to land the craft safely, but
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unfortunately both of the planes hit the World Trade Center.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
How naive?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Coming back on nightside right after this, You're on night
Side with Dan Ray on w B Boston's news radio.
Back to the phones we go. Let's start it off
with Bob and Dennisport. Bob, welcome, you are next on nightside.
Go right ahead, first this hour on nightside. Bob.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Sure shut, Bob, do be a favor.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Rob. Let's prove his his audio there. I don't know.
I couldn't hear what he was saying. Bill and danvers,
you're next on your first this next, well you're next
your second. Actually go ahead, Bill, all.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Right, I'm a second stringer. Huh. Dan, but hey, listen,
these boats, I don't care how many they get rid of.
And these congressmen again, you know, the only beef they
have is that Trump's doing it, you know.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And if they weren't complaining about that with their boats,
to be something else.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
And they don't like heg Seth And evidently they don't
like this admiral.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Now he's a bad guy. Even though the jag officer
was in there in the command center, uh, you know,
making sure everything goes the way it's supposed to go.
If there was any rules of engagement. Uh and uh,
I don't care. I mean, he can blow up one day.
I mean, you know, And what they should do is
these congressmen in these districts, are senators in these states.
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The amount of people that have overdosed, which is from
and typically the younger people, which it's a shame to
lose because you know, you figure, you lose them, we're
losing our working age population that is going to pay
in the social security But and you know, the health
of the country.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, I'm looking looking at the I'm looking at the
death of children, the death of parents. Oh yeah, I
mean the stories have just been frightening.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah. Friend. And and the fact that these guys are
more concerned and oh you know, you know, it's like
they wanted your stuff the boat, read them their rights.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
What are you doing you know them?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And uh but you know they
maybe run commercials say listen, you know, this is what
we're doing the boat and there's how many people in
the district can pass from drugs and effective families there
and your congressmans seem to be on board and support
their rights.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
Board and getting rid of them, you.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Know, sailors. Sailors.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, the sailors.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's like, you know, the the
concept of you know, look, these are these are bad people. Now,
they may be people who are doing it out of
necessity for their families, I guess, but you could say
that about mafia killers. They were just trying to make
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a living, you know, I mean it's insane. These the
cargo that these these guys carry were basically gonna kill
thousands of Americans who were stupid enough to try ventanyl
or to or to not realize that ventanyl now it
could be in any drug that you that you have.
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But their kids there were seven kids at Providence College
over the weekend. You know, again, if it's happening in
a place like Providence College, I'm sure it's happening in
a lot of places. And you know, you can argue, well,
if America didn't have an appetype of drugs, I get
those arguments, But I want to protect our people. I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry, Bob Bill.
Speaker 10 (13:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No, and and and you know, with taking care of
in our own hemisphere. Know, a lot of these guys
didn't have problems going half way around the world and
the say area and everything else, and you know, you
know sometimes we were in places maybe there wasn't really
an interest to be there if you really looked at it.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Yeah, I mean, I mean this is an interest.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, the guy that the guy that President Obama took out.
I remember it at the time. I didn't criticize President
Obama for that. You know, he took a bad guy out,
simple as that. Bill, I gotta I gotta run here.
I got a whole bunch of callers. Yes, let thank
you very much. Bill. Let me go next to my
friend Harvey silver Glade, and Harvey very well may disagree
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with me. Here, go right ahead, Harvey.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
If drug hughes including fenanto, heroine and all the rest,
even marijuana, is still a federal client, Yep, we're legal.
Were legalized, it would put the following groups out of business.
Drug smugglers corrupt police. Drug in law enforcement is responsible.
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I would estimate for more police corruption than any other
single area of law enforcement. And the reason is of killer.
Speaker 10 (15:17):
A murderer can't pay off a cop to ignore a murder,
but drug gang can pay off the cops in order
to ignore drug dealers.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, I can't disagree. Hold on, no, I'm saying I
do not disagree with you. By the way, I do
not disagree with you.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Go ahead, legalization is the only solution. It would reduce
the prison population and increase the hospital population. That's a
good that's a decent trade. In my view.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I'm not going to disagree with you. I'm not a
guy that necessarily believes in legalization, but because I think
there would be a cost involved. But your analysis, I
think Harvey is correct. But but that's not my point.
The point is that at this point we have members
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of Congress calling Naco terrorist sailors, and just to me
is disingenuous. You know, someone in Congress should be smart
enough to understand these were not people out for an
afternoon sale. You know, they were engaged in drug smuggling,
is what they were doing.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
The President has not gone to the Congress, as he
has taken undertaken himself to use the military, and I
believe that's not constitutional.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, I think that that in the within the concept
of the Monroe Doctrine, which has been you know, an unwritten,
uh standard of operation in this country for uh, you know,
a couple of hundred years, now more than a couple
of hundred years, that he has a right to to defend.
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And again if if it's proven to be be unconstitutional,
we'll see. I don't think that would ever be found
to be unconstitutional. It certainly is different. He's a different
sort of president, no doubt about that. But I would
you say that that Obama's use of the drone to
take out the Muslim cleric and Yemen also is unconstitutional?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Well, it would have been hard to keep secrecy by
going to Congress on that one. I think that's a
close question.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah. I think they're They're almost identical. And I think
that what.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
They could have done has a head of one or
two congressional committees filled in on this before they acted.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yep, no, I and that has been done before, and
do that in a skiff. And I understand that, Host
President fair enough. Absolutely, Harvey, thank you much. As always.
I appreciate your take, I really do, and I don't
disagree with you with the argument. Thank you much. Talk soon.
Let me go next to Bob, Tom and Dennisport. We
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were mistaken and this is not Bob, this is Tom correct, Yes,
it is Dan Well. I only read him as written, and.
Speaker 11 (18:24):
So it's I was just gonna say to you, O,
hoy made.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
The hoy made. I like that. I like that though.
I'm glad I let me Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 11 (18:34):
Didn't didn't didn't the President Obama take out an American citizen?
Did he go to anybody took permission for that?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
No, he took out an American citizen. And I think
it was the ten year old son of the Muslim
Clumbate cleric who was in the vehicle when the vehicle
was hit.
Speaker 9 (18:49):
Yeah, but he took out an American citizen. He didn't
ask anybody permission for that.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
They were both American citizens. Both both the cleric and
his son were both American citizens. And so the sun
was simply collateral damage.
Speaker 11 (19:03):
Oh yeah, okay, that's collateral damage, Jeff. But the other
guys were sailors driving. Uh, you know, where where is
the outrage about the people that are dropping dead on
the street, that are filling up our our emergency rooms.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Where's where's the outrage in the street in Charlotte The
woman from Ukraine who came here and was stabbed to death. Uh,
you know, just attack from behind and stabbed to death.
There's so much stuff that is going on in this
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countries and and it's it seems like one side is
concerned about it. If you're a Republican, you're concerned about this.
If you're a Democrat, you're concerned about this. I'd like
them all to drop the R and the D and
just just look at it as Americans.
Speaker 11 (19:52):
Absolutely, I agree with one hundred percent. I know. I
know a lot of politicians, and some of them are
some some some bad oys and some bad deeds, some great.
There's some great days.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
And some great oest.
Speaker 11 (20:06):
The bottom line is there's no they They take up
a cause simply because it's the cause of the day,
and it has nothing to do with the ramifications of
what what that cause has the hands as the ants.
What they're doing is over in Venezuela is they're sending
them a message. You're going to if I F A FO,
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you know what that means.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I please don't say it, but I'll try to figure
it out.
Speaker 11 (20:38):
I'm not Yeah, yeah, you can. You can figure it
out here. Well, I'm sure you're your call screen will
tell you Y.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
F A f O.
Speaker 11 (20:46):
And it's it's it's what they're doing with them out
over in Venezuela. They're teaching them and the other You
don't think that guy's not sleeping with ten or twelve
bodyguards around them.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
The president, well, my god, I guess what he's got now,
he's he can't trust his own people. He's brought in
Cuban security.
Speaker 11 (21:06):
Oh absolutely, we're not sure.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, Cuban security he can be. He can be more
comfortable with Cuban security, because if Cuban security turned on Maduro,
the families of the Cuban security who were involved, those
families be wiped out within with a matter of hours.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
So that's how cigar out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, you got it, You got it, And.
Speaker 11 (21:30):
We're gonna have to have that cup of coffee one
of these days. I'll be looking forward to it. But
somehow our schedules never click.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
But I don't want to talk.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'll be back down in your neck of the woods
in about seven months, so let me know.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Okay, all right, well talk, we'll be talking.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
And I love you humor. I love you humor on
this because it's a serious subject. It's a depressing subject.
But sometimes you have to point out the absurdity of
the arguments here.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
And we don't be depressed about everything.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
No, I understand that. But but when when you're a
United States congressman, and you've had people in your district
die of fentatal overdoses. I mean I heard his story
once of a guy who was upstairs getting ready for work.
The wife was downstairs getting the kids ready, she was
going to take them off to school, and then she
was going up going off to work. She called up
to him to tell him that she was heading off
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to work and didn't hear anything. She went I found
him dead in the floor. He apparently had taken some
sort of a pill or something in the morning when
he got up, and that was the last thing that
he ingested. I mean, this is, this is, this is everywhere,
and we don't even know.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
You never know, You never know, right, you smoke a
joint and it's in a joint exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
That's one thing.
Speaker 11 (22:45):
That's one thing about the marijuana legalization. You know where
it's coming from.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well, well, that's an argument in favor of what Harvey
was suggesting, which I understand. I mean, I'm not necessarily.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
A guy that marij marijuana. I'm not talking about legalizing
heroin and cocaine and all other.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Right, fentanyl, Look at these seven down at Providence College.
Look Providence College.
Speaker 11 (23:08):
I didn't hear that. What happened.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Seven students at Providence College Saturday night overdosed. They literally
were on I guess inside the building or out on
the lawn. Several of them had to be revived with
knarckcan when they were a lot when they are revived
with knarkan. They weren't smoking a.
Speaker 11 (23:28):
Joint, Oh that's for sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Or if they were, it was laced with fentanyl. Let's
put it like that.
Speaker 11 (23:34):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yet no, I hear it.
Speaker 11 (23:36):
I totally don't even know what they put in it.
It put in fentinel and everything. And then if you
don't think it's another country that's doing it, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah. And and and Maduro, I'm sure is turning a
blind eye to it. And that's another reason why he's
got to he's got to go. He's got to go, Tom,
thank you much.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
He's got to go.
Speaker 11 (23:55):
Accidentally, well, accidentally on purpose.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I got you of a gray one thanks one line
open six, one seven, keep it rolling here, We're coming
back right after the break at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
It's nightside.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Boss radio.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Okay, so maybe I've been a little rough on Congressman
Hines from Connecticut. Uh. And so maybe instead of calling
these these terrorists, these are not terrorists, sailors, maybe he
should have called him mariners. You know, they were mariners.
They were just out on the ocean. Mariners. Yeah, that
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that makes a lot. They weren't terrorists, they were mariners.
Let's keep rolling here. We're gonna go to Frank and Boston.
Frank you next time, nightside.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Welcome, Hello, sir, Hi Frank. The problem I have with
this situation in the dead we're not seeing what's getting
what's going wrong here. We want to attack Knarco terrorists,
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but we're down in Venezuela, which is thousands of miles
and that a powerboat will take forever to get here.
Speaker 12 (25:13):
Number.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
If we want to take our knackle terrorists, we ought
to be going into Mexico. Mexico had a protest the
other day where hundreds of people, so hundreds of thousand
people came out because Knacko terrorists down there are killing
their politicians, are killing their businessmen, are killing their farmers.
We are to be in Mexico.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
And then we're talking about we.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
Double tapped one boat when we could have used that
as baits to bring the other boat that we could
have sunk too, but instead we sought that one boat
because we thought another boat was coming. Why didn't we
wait for the other boats to come in and blow
both of them up?
Speaker 13 (25:49):
Were up here?
Speaker 8 (25:50):
We got a president got acts like he's a puppet
for Putin and what we want to kiss his ass?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Okay, I get you. I'm a fan of Trump, Okay,
which is fine.
Speaker 14 (26:03):
I'm not I'm not a truck ofity. I'm not a
fan of insanity. Were trusting this man and he's doing
the wrong thing and we think that's good.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That's fine. I'm glad to hear a different point of view.
I'm not gonna argue with you. I suspect that there's
not not much that that that Trump has done that
you would applaud. Would you applaud him closing off myself
southern border.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
I'm applauding him for blowing these trucks, these boats up
in the down there in Venezuela, because the one nation
that he'll probably saving from those knocko terrorists is either Suriname,
which is in South America, Iguana, which is in South America.
Uh Trump trey Ler Tobago, which is swayed down there
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in South America. They're probably the ones who are move
benefiting from this. If we want to president to benefit
our country, that we need to go into Mexico and
stop them. There ones who.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Will be you never know, Frank, when he does that,
you can call and uh and tell me what that you.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Predicted me doing it now he's supposed to be doing
it now.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
All right, Well he's not doing he's not doing enough
as far as you're concerned. I guess, no problem.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Not because you know have you seen how how how
many miles will take? Do you know how many miles
it is from Venezuela to the.
Speaker 14 (27:33):
Largo.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't think that. I don't think they're coming into
Key Largo, Okay, I don't.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Think they're saying that distance.
Speaker 14 (27:40):
That distance, right, there's thousands of.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Miles, and in an open boat with four motors, it'll
take you forever to get here.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
The boats move pretty quickly. I think that they're heading
to places. They're not going to Key Largo. There's a
couple of stops along the way. That's all. Hey, Frank,
I appreciate you. I appreciate your viewpoint. I got full lines,
and so I got to give everybody a chance tonight. Okay,
thank you so much for joining us. We'll talk again.
Thanks Frank, appreciate it. Okay, let me go next to Will.
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We got to be quick here because they got pack lines.
Will go ahead.
Speaker 13 (28:12):
Okay, then, I mean I think that, you know, I
don't really disagree with Harvey much, but I would say
that there's plenty of evidence in twenty twenty when you
see places like Oregon decriminal decriminalize hard drugs like heroin,
that in twenty twenty four they rolled it back because
without the threat of coercion or mandates into programs, people
don't get sober. And then they had tons of crime
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and disorderly conducts and all types of things that they
had to roll that back. So that didn't work. So
we have evidence on our own soil of that not working.
More importantly, you have you know, I look at Venezuela
as like almost like a weapons of mass destruction situation
like we did in Iraq, except you know, we know
it's there. We know that they're producing lots of cocaine
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and fent and on all these things and bringing it here.
But it's an excuse to get involved in a region
that we have ignored for decades. Okay, He's just the
first and the easiest to go after, because we know
that it's an illegitimate regime that runs fake elections, and
they had one election for a communist when they had
Hugo Chavez, and then for decades after they've had none. Okay,
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So the world will kind of turn a blind eye
to our action in Venezuela because soon to follow will
be the IMF, the World Bank, and you'll probably have
an Interran president like the woman that won the Nobel
Peace Prize over in Venezuela, right right, take over in Venezuela,
and we have an excuse to get into the region.
And like your last caller, who I agree with, actually,
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narco terrorists in Mexico will probably be next on the list,
which also has a communist president. Colombia who ramped up
their cocaine production under Patro three times, which was already
the cocaine production of the world. Right next door in
Colombia will also probably be on the hit list. So
you know, you have a part of the world, a
region of the world which I would argue on like Obama,
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Obama's seven countries as opposed to George Bush's four which
this hyperpartisanship is evident in the Democrats' ability to show,
you know, massive hypocrisy on this level where Obama bombs
more countries than George Bush five hundred and sixty seven
drone strikes under Obama compared to fifty seven under George
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Bush tenfold, it went up, okay, and they didn't say anything.
They didn't say anything when he deposed of a dictator
over there in Libya, which, to be honest with you, you
didn't know me. Then I strongly criticized the right, not
because I agreed with deposing Kadafi, but the fact that
the right, their calls to destroy men like Kaddaffi were
so strong when we invaded places like Iraq that for
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them to turn around and say, how dare you do
this when his links to terrorism were so vast they
hardly needed to be stated, And then all of a
sudden they went on the partisanship. You didn't ask for
approval when George Bush was bombing everything in sight. So
I think that this hyper partisanship has led this country
into an area where we no longer want to do
things that are for the national security and the interest
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for the United States of America because at the end
of the day, these communist needs leaders, not only do
they sell us drugs and they want to kill us
and poisonous, but they're dealing with enemies down there. I
was just there, you know, I was there in Colombia
just a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I know that. By the way, Will, you're covering so
much ground here. It's it's it's it's amazing.
Speaker 13 (31:26):
Is this we're trying to get into the region because
it's been neglected and right now China, Russia and Iran
are taking over that region, making tons of money there
and putting massive influence on All.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Of those arguments are so true. But I just want
to come back to I think the point that's most
important is that the concept of this hyperpartisenship that as
opposed to the Democrats or the Republicans saying, you know
what the president is doing, he's not a member of
my party, but I agree with it, and that you know,
this fentanyl doesn't discriminate between Democrats Republicans. It's not just
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killing Republican kids. It's killing Democrats kit Republican kids. Doesn't match.
Speaker 13 (32:09):
He started saving us, and I know lots of people
that are dead from this more than most people. Because
my entire life I have dedicated this that seventeen years
to helping addicts. Gets over, and I have to tell
you now, he started all of this saving Americans when
he closed down this border and stopped the legal immigration
with the laws that currently existed on the books. He
didn't have to have any new legislation to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
All right, welcome, Rick, got to let you go. Thank
you much. A lot of information coming back on Night's
Side one line at six, one, seven, two fast, four
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Speaker 13 (32:38):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Let's keep rolling here, trying to get everybody in. That's
my goal. Carolyn Randolph, Hey, Carol, welcome. How are you?
Speaker 7 (32:52):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Dan?
Speaker 15 (32:53):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm good. I let you take it.
Speaker 15 (32:55):
I enjoyed listen to Will. I mean my take on this,
im letely agree with what Trump is doing. I mean,
go after the drugs.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
We should call think we should call the terrorists sailors
or mariners.
Speaker 15 (33:11):
Oh, they're terrorists.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I know that I've already teased. I'm teasing you and
making fun of Congressman Hinds.
Speaker 15 (33:18):
No, but with congressmen, this is what I mean. You've
got a president. Okay, he ran a show that was
The Apprentice, And now I'm kind of looking at Congress.
Are they all additioning to be the Apprentice? They're not
doing their jobs, They're all trying to build their personality
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and this and that.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
They someone someone said it, characters, someone said it. They're
all hyperpartisan. They're they're hyper I mean Maxine Waters, she
hasn't had a thought that made sense to me in
in decades, never mind years. I mean it's like you
heard her before for it just it's absolutely.
Speaker 15 (34:02):
Kill them all wherever they are. And yeah, I mean
they are becoming cartoon characters. These are the people that
were elected to represent the people. They're like auditions on
the Apprentice. Who can be the most outrageous, who can
be the craziest.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I like the analogy, I really do. I think it works.
Speaker 15 (34:29):
It's fucked. Oh my god. These are the people that
are running our country.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Well they tried. They're not right now, but they were
for four years.
Speaker 15 (34:42):
Who's got one president that is finally doing what people
wanted and they're like, oh my god, the Maryland man
say that their.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Sorry all right, Carol, I got I got four behind you.
We're going to try to get them all in. Okay,
thanks so much. Love your passion. I love your passion.
Thank good night. Tom is in Norton, Massachusetts. Tom, You're
next on nightside.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
You're right, thank you.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
I support the thinking of these boats. They're not out
of fishing.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (35:17):
And also I'm wondering these these the politicians that are
so strongly against Trump's actions against these fishermen, sailors, mariners, whatever. Yeah,
one of them, these guys are the same ones that
lobby's for the drug company. Because the drug treatment industry
is a very big industry, and I'm wondering if these
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people are being pressured, you know, to to maybe allow
the drug.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I don't think that they're thinking that deeply in all honestly,
I think it's a great question you raise, But I
don't think they think that deeply. I think it's like Trump,
will you Trump bad? I mean, I think it's it's
kind of neandothal thinking that they don't like Trump, which
is fine. Who I mean, there's a lot not to
(36:06):
like about him. He's not the most personal guy in
the world. He I think he's his own worst enemy.
You've heard me say that but but if he does
something that's correct, it's gonna save Americans lives. I'm gonna
say I support it. I'm sorry, and I know that
there were friends of mine who could say, how could
you support, you know, killing people who are just trying
to earn a living. I mean, you know it's they're
(36:30):
selling point, they're transporting poison. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 16 (36:33):
I mean, this is yeah, absolutely, and I'm so glad
that the uh that those seven kids of Providence survived,
because those are those areas, nephew, son's daughters, your daughter's boyfriend, whatever,
you got it, somebody somebody that has lost their battle.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
But couldn't agree with you more couldn't agree with you, Tom,
great call, you said it, well, you said it succinctly.
Thank you much, my friend. Good night. Let me roll
Linda in Natick, Linda, you're next door, nightside, go right ahead, Hi, Dan, hid.
Speaker 17 (37:08):
So listen every night. And I just want to mention
a couple of things that were missing from the.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
Conversation to night.
Speaker 17 (37:17):
And this information came from the Admiral when he testified
for Congress YEP in front of Congress, and he said
that these both were not headed of the United States.
They were headed for an island off then israela begins
with an f I can't remember the name of it,
and probably going to Europe. But they were carrying cocaine.
They were not carrying fentanyl. The sentinel comes from Mexico,
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and I'm all for you know, stopping in any way
we can drugs. Fentanyl was the killing people, but cocaine
is a is a whole different thing, and it was
not headed for the United States. Did you know that.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I'm aware. I don't know what was in the boats
per se, but I'm hoping that the CIA has uh
has people uh in Venezuela. I certainly don't think that
they were carrying Christmas presents. I know they were carrying drugs.
Were carrying cocaine, right, And also cocaine could be laced
(38:16):
with fentanyl. Uh, And there have been a lot of
people who have died thinking what they think is a
drug that is a party drug, but but once it's
laced with fentanyl, it's it's a deadly combination.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
So yeah, so the sentinel does come from Mexico.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, well, fentanyl comes uh, it's it comes from China,
and it's it's then turned into pill form uh in Mexico.
You're right on that. So do you support or do
you oppose what the administration is doing on this?
Speaker 17 (38:52):
Well, I don't know too much about it, but I.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Well, you know what you're telling me. You do know
a lot. You're telling me that that you that this
is cocaine and the boat's not Sentinel. I'll accept that.
Do you support what the Trump administration is doing or no.
Speaker 17 (39:08):
I support them legally blowing up boats. I don't support
them suiting the two survivors.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Well, then they may have done the survivors a real
favor by doing that, because if they had been left
there hanging off their boats, you know what their fate
probably would have been sharks sharks, And given a choice
between being blown up quickly and dying at the hands
of sharks, I might take being blown up quickly. Thanks Linda,
(39:42):
I got to run. Thank you so much. Appreciate your call.
Let me go, Rick and Bill, Rick or Rick like
to get you and one more in Please.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
Go ahead, Rick atally Dan. Yeah, I like what Melinda said.
A moment ago. I support Pete Haag said in the military,
you know, taking these ships out as long as they
are their intelligence proper and I trusted it, yep. But
I I and I support them if they if they're intelligence,
probably hit them. But hitting those two guys, I think.
(40:10):
I think that was bad.
Speaker 7 (40:11):
I don't.
Speaker 12 (40:12):
It shows no mercy that the United States has no mercy.
That's how I see it. Yeah, it doesn't give me
a good feeling inside. They they they propagate all this
talk of Christianity.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
And well there and they're probably going to be shark bait.
You know that.
Speaker 12 (40:30):
Well maybe maybe maybe not. I don't know, but I
would have it would have been better if they if
they grabbed them up, and maybe they could have helped
them stop more stuff. They could have put them in
a protection thing and grabbed them out. I don't know.
It could have been done. Yeah, I think it could
have been done better.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Then all.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
You're always welcome here your rational region, and I appreciate
you calling Rob. What do we get left on time? Okay,
we only have thirty seconds left, GEO. I wish you
called earlier. We would have been able to get you
in with the last caller. I'm sorry. I apologize. Get
you tomorrow night, Geo. We will be back on nightside
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(41:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
I was tempted to do a poll, but I'm not
going to. I was tempted to ask people what was
a greater concern whether the Patriots make the super Bowl
or their energy costs, their energy bills. I will save
that for another night, because I do think that there's
(00:28):
a substantial number of people who will tell me that
they're more concerned about whether the Patriots make the super
Bowl than their energy costs. And I think that the
politicians understand that. And we're not going to see much
relief from energy costs here in New England. And again,
(00:48):
if you are, you know it's it's it's a killer.
It's a killer, obviously, and but we'll save that for
for another night. I'd like to just change the topics
and the focus a little bit here and go to
(01:08):
a subject we have not talked about, but one that
I think is important, and that is what is going
on with the US in Venezuela. We have not talked
about that before, so I would like to just take
the temperature of my audience on this. I think most
(01:30):
of us know what is going on. We probably all
have the same information. Probably some of us would argue
we need to know more about what's going on, but
I think that is always the case. But what we
know is that there have been a whole group of
boats blown up by US military forces in the Caribbean.
(01:56):
The Trump administration says these are boats that are being
used by Naco terrorists to transport It looks again, I
don't know what this source of information is. I would
hope that we would have some operatives on the ground
in Venezuela so we would know who's in these boats. Now,
(02:17):
the boats looked to me as if they are narcotics
vessels to convey narcotics from Venezuela to America. I also
know that there are lots of people in this country
every year, particularly young people who die. You had that
story down at Providence College over the weekend where there
(02:40):
apparently were seven Providence College kids who overdosed on something.
There are three people under arrest for having supplied some
form of drug something to this group, whether they sold
them at the party or whether they sold stuff to
(03:00):
someone who brought the stuff to the party. Seven people,
and several of the seven people who were in tough
shape had to be revived by narcan. So, look, that
can happen at Providence College to seven students can happen
anywhere in America, and it has happened everywhere in America.
(03:22):
There's no doubt about that. So I will go on
the record and tell you that I don't have a
single problem with what the Trump administration is doing to
these Narco terrorists. Okay. However, however, there are some members
of the loyal opposition in Congress who were raising questions
(03:44):
about this. Okay. For example, Maxine Waters, I am a
member of Congress from California, have heard from her before.
She believes that the President of the United States is
a killer, striking these Narco terrorists. Cut number two. Please
(04:05):
rob the station is a killer. I am outraged that
the way that on his own about any consultation, he
doesn't know who they are, whether there is whether they're guilty.
He should follow the laws.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The laws does not allow are intained for the President
of the United States to just kill anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That he wants to killt No, I would remind the
gentle lady from California that President Obama engaged in a
very interesting attack on a Muslim cleric in Yemen, which
I supported. I think that this guy was a problem
(04:52):
for us, and I think that President Obama did the
right thing. But I don't see much of a difference
other than scale in what President Trump is doing now.
Senator Timmy Duckworth is quite upset about this, but she
seems a little confused. I'm going to ask you to play, please, Rob,
(05:16):
I'm going to ask you to play, but hold off
for a second. Cut for a She is asked about
having seen the video. She seems to say yes, and
then she's asked again and she seems to say no.
Curious response. Cut for a rob.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Senator, have you seen the video?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I have seen the video, and it is deeply disturbing.
I am mostly concerned with the fact that we are
putting our American servicemen and women in jeopardy here. We're
putting them in jeopardy in case they ever get shot down.
We're putting them in legal jeopardy. They could be brought
up in international criminal courts, and so what we're doing
here is taking those professionals or utmost essionals and putting
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them into harm's way. And that's what bothers me the
most about what Pete heck said is doing. He is
the least qualified set creet defense in our nation's history,
and he's very cavalier about doing things. The fact of
the matter is only Congress can decide that we can
go to war, and there was no such declaration made.
I just want to make sure that I get this accurate.
(06:21):
You have seen the classified video of this particular strike,
the first strike and then the double tap as it's known. No,
I've just seen what's been available in the media. I've
read the food report, but I've not seen the actual video.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
There's a little inconsistency there, but hey, that's okay. So
but the best SoundBite of the week came from a
congressman down in Connecticut. Now again, remember if you had
a child or a parent who died from fentiel, you
might see this a little differently, because this is if
(07:01):
this if these folks were transporting weapons to America to
kill Americans. If they were, if they were transporting you know,
some some form of shoulder fired grenades, and that's we
(07:24):
knew they were coming in. Again, this is all premised
on the proposition that the Trump administration is doing their
due diligence. That's that's all we're talking about. So this
is this is Representative Jim Hines from Connecticut. Uh and
he somehow his his characterization this is a forty second
(07:47):
sound by his characterization of who I think are terrorists.
They are Narco terrorists. He calls them, and you'll hear
it say sailors like people who are out on Cape
cod in July in a sailboat. Representative Jim Hines of
(08:10):
Connecticut cut a rup.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
What I saw in that room was one of the
most troubling things I've seen in my time in public service.
You have two individuals in clear distress, without any means
of locomotion, with a destroyed vessel, who were.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Killed by the United States.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Under the Dood Manual for abiding by the Laws of
Armed Conflict. The specific example given of an impermissible action
is attacking a shipwreck. Any American who sees the video
that I saw will see the United States military attacking
shipwrecked sailors.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Shipwrecked sailors, yup, they were out for a little crew.
I'm not sure if the family was with them, but
they were sailing around and all of a sudden we
hit them, hit them hard. And they're not terrorists. They're not.
They're they're not transporting narcotics, deadly narcotics. Absolutely not. They
don't have five big horsepower engines on the back of
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those speedboats. Absolutely not. They're sailors. Representative, you're a disgrace.
You're an absolute disgrace to use the word sailors. Just
I mean, that's that's like saying that the nine to
eleven hijackers they were nine to eleven hijackers, they were
(09:45):
back up pilots. That's what you're saying. Uh, Congressman, you're
a disgrace. We're gonna go to phone calls six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
You could disagree on this, as I'm sure some of
you will, but please don't try to call them sailors.
(10:06):
They're drug runners, plain and simple. If you want to
call them sailors, then then then assume that I'm going
to assume that you would have think thought that the
terrors the board nine to eleven, who who killed the
American pilots, the US pilots were just back up pilots
and they were trying to land the craft safely, but
(10:29):
unfortunately both of the planes hit the World Trade Center.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
How naive?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Coming back on nightside right after this, You're on night
Side with Dan Ray on w B Boston's news radio.
Back to the phones we go. Let's start it off
with Bob and Dennisport. Bob, welcome, you are next on nightside.
Go right ahead, first this hour on nightside. Bob.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Sure shut, Bob, do be a favor.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Rob. Let's prove his his audio there. I don't know.
I couldn't hear what he was saying. Bill and danvers,
you're next on your first this next, well you're next
your second. Actually go ahead, Bill, all.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Right, I'm a second stringer. Huh. Dan, but hey, listen,
these boats, I don't care how many they get rid of.
And these congressmen again, you know, the only beef they
have is that Trump's doing it, you know.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And if they weren't complaining about that with their boats,
to be something else.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
And they don't like heg Seth And evidently they don't
like this admiral.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Now he's a bad guy. Even though the jag officer
was in there in the command center, uh, you know,
making sure everything goes the way it's supposed to go.
If there was any rules of engagement. Uh and uh,
I don't care. I mean, he can blow up one day.
I mean, you know, And what they should do is
these congressmen in these districts, are senators in these states.
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The amount of people that have overdosed, which is from
and typically the younger people, which it's a shame to
lose because you know, you figure, you lose them, we're
losing our working age population that is going to pay
in the social security But and you know, the health
of the country.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, I'm looking looking at the I'm looking at the
death of children, the death of parents. Oh yeah, I
mean the stories have just been frightening.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah. Friend. And and the fact that these guys are
more concerned and oh you know, you know, it's like
they wanted your stuff the boat, read them their rights.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
What are you doing you know them?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And uh but you know they
maybe run commercials say listen, you know, this is what
we're doing the boat and there's how many people in
the district can pass from drugs and effective families there
and your congressmans seem to be on board and support
their rights.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
Board and getting rid of them, you.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Know, sailors. Sailors.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, the sailors.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's like, you know, the the
concept of you know, look, these are these are bad people. Now,
they may be people who are doing it out of
necessity for their families, I guess, but you could say
that about mafia killers. They were just trying to make
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a living, you know, I mean it's insane. These the
cargo that these these guys carry were basically gonna kill
thousands of Americans who were stupid enough to try ventanyl
or to or to not realize that ventanyl now it
could be in any drug that you that you have.
(13:30):
But their kids there were seven kids at Providence College
over the weekend. You know, again, if it's happening in
a place like Providence College, I'm sure it's happening in
a lot of places. And you know, you can argue, well,
if America didn't have an appetype of drugs, I get
those arguments, But I want to protect our people. I'm sorry.
(13:53):
I'm sorry, Bob Bill.
Speaker 10 (13:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No, and and and you know, with taking care of
in our own hemisphere. Know, a lot of these guys
didn't have problems going half way around the world and
the say area and everything else, and you know, you
know sometimes we were in places maybe there wasn't really
an interest to be there if you really looked at it.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Yeah, I mean, I mean this is an interest.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, the guy that the guy that President Obama took out.
I remember it at the time. I didn't criticize President
Obama for that. You know, he took a bad guy out,
simple as that. Bill, I gotta I gotta run here.
I got a whole bunch of callers. Yes, let thank
you very much. Bill. Let me go next to my
friend Harvey silver Glade, and Harvey very well may disagree
(14:34):
with me. Here, go right ahead, Harvey.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
If drug hughes including fenanto, heroine and all the rest,
even marijuana, is still a federal client, Yep, we're legal.
Were legalized, it would put the following groups out of business.
Drug smugglers corrupt police. Drug in law enforcement is responsible.
(15:05):
I would estimate for more police corruption than any other
single area of law enforcement. And the reason is of killer.
Speaker 10 (15:17):
A murderer can't pay off a cop to ignore a murder,
but drug gang can pay off the cops in order
to ignore drug dealers.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, I can't disagree. Hold on, no, I'm saying I
do not disagree with you. By the way, I do
not disagree with you.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Go ahead, legalization is the only solution. It would reduce
the prison population and increase the hospital population. That's a
good that's a decent trade. In my view.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I'm not going to disagree with you. I'm not a
guy that necessarily believes in legalization, but because I think
there would be a cost involved. But your analysis, I
think Harvey is correct. But but that's not my point.
The point is that at this point we have members
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of Congress calling Naco terrorist sailors, and just to me
is disingenuous. You know, someone in Congress should be smart
enough to understand these were not people out for an
afternoon sale. You know, they were engaged in drug smuggling,
is what they were doing.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
The President has not gone to the Congress, as he
has taken undertaken himself to use the military, and I
believe that's not constitutional.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, I think that that in the within the concept
of the Monroe Doctrine, which has been you know, an unwritten,
uh standard of operation in this country for uh, you know,
a couple of hundred years, now more than a couple
of hundred years, that he has a right to to defend.
(17:04):
And again if if it's proven to be be unconstitutional,
we'll see. I don't think that would ever be found
to be unconstitutional. It certainly is different. He's a different
sort of president, no doubt about that. But I would
you say that that Obama's use of the drone to
take out the Muslim cleric and Yemen also is unconstitutional?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Well, it would have been hard to keep secrecy by
going to Congress on that one. I think that's a
close question.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah. I think they're They're almost identical. And I think
that what.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
They could have done has a head of one or
two congressional committees filled in on this before they acted.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yep, no, I and that has been done before, and
do that in a skiff. And I understand that, Host
President fair enough. Absolutely, Harvey, thank you much. As always.
I appreciate your take, I really do, and I don't
disagree with you with the argument. Thank you much. Talk soon.
Let me go next to Bob, Tom and Dennisport. We
(18:15):
were mistaken and this is not Bob, this is Tom correct, Yes,
it is Dan Well. I only read him as written, and.
Speaker 11 (18:24):
So it's I was just gonna say to you, O,
hoy made.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
The hoy made. I like that. I like that though.
I'm glad I let me Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 11 (18:34):
Didn't didn't didn't the President Obama take out an American citizen?
Did he go to anybody took permission for that?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
No, he took out an American citizen. And I think
it was the ten year old son of the Muslim
Clumbate cleric who was in the vehicle when the vehicle
was hit.
Speaker 9 (18:49):
Yeah, but he took out an American citizen. He didn't
ask anybody permission for that.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
They were both American citizens. Both both the cleric and
his son were both American citizens. And so the sun
was simply collateral damage.
Speaker 11 (19:03):
Oh yeah, okay, that's collateral damage, Jeff. But the other
guys were sailors driving. Uh, you know, where where is
the outrage about the people that are dropping dead on
the street, that are filling up our our emergency rooms.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Where's where's the outrage in the street in Charlotte The
woman from Ukraine who came here and was stabbed to death. Uh,
you know, just attack from behind and stabbed to death.
There's so much stuff that is going on in this
(19:38):
countries and and it's it seems like one side is
concerned about it. If you're a Republican, you're concerned about this.
If you're a Democrat, you're concerned about this. I'd like
them all to drop the R and the D and
just just look at it as Americans.
Speaker 11 (19:52):
Absolutely, I agree with one hundred percent. I know. I
know a lot of politicians, and some of them are
some some some bad oys and some bad deeds, some great.
There's some great days.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
And some great oest.
Speaker 11 (20:06):
The bottom line is there's no they They take up
a cause simply because it's the cause of the day,
and it has nothing to do with the ramifications of
what what that cause has the hands as the ants.
What they're doing is over in Venezuela is they're sending
them a message. You're going to if I F A FO,
(20:32):
you know what that means.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I please don't say it, but I'll try to figure
it out.
Speaker 11 (20:38):
I'm not Yeah, yeah, you can. You can figure it
out here. Well, I'm sure you're your call screen will
tell you Y.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
F A f O.
Speaker 11 (20:46):
And it's it's it's what they're doing with them out
over in Venezuela. They're teaching them and the other You
don't think that guy's not sleeping with ten or twelve
bodyguards around them.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
The president, well, my god, I guess what he's got now,
he's he can't trust his own people. He's brought in
Cuban security.
Speaker 11 (21:06):
Oh absolutely, we're not sure.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, Cuban security he can be. He can be more
comfortable with Cuban security, because if Cuban security turned on Maduro,
the families of the Cuban security who were involved, those
families be wiped out within with a matter of hours.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
So that's how cigar out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, you got it, You got it, And.
Speaker 11 (21:30):
We're gonna have to have that cup of coffee one
of these days. I'll be looking forward to it. But
somehow our schedules never click.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
But I don't want to talk.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'll be back down in your neck of the woods
in about seven months, so let me know.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Okay, all right, well talk, we'll be talking.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
And I love you humor. I love you humor on
this because it's a serious subject. It's a depressing subject.
But sometimes you have to point out the absurdity of
the arguments here.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
And we don't be depressed about everything.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
No, I understand that. But but when when you're a
United States congressman, and you've had people in your district
die of fentatal overdoses. I mean I heard his story
once of a guy who was upstairs getting ready for work.
The wife was downstairs getting the kids ready, she was
going to take them off to school, and then she
was going up going off to work. She called up
to him to tell him that she was heading off
(22:20):
to work and didn't hear anything. She went I found
him dead in the floor. He apparently had taken some
sort of a pill or something in the morning when
he got up, and that was the last thing that
he ingested. I mean, this is, this is, this is everywhere,
and we don't even know.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
You never know, You never know, right, you smoke a
joint and it's in a joint exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
That's one thing.
Speaker 11 (22:45):
That's one thing about the marijuana legalization. You know where
it's coming from.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well, well, that's an argument in favor of what Harvey
was suggesting, which I understand. I mean, I'm not necessarily.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
A guy that marij marijuana. I'm not talking about legalizing
heroin and cocaine and all other.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Right, fentanyl, Look at these seven down at Providence College.
Look Providence College.
Speaker 11 (23:08):
I didn't hear that. What happened.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Seven students at Providence College Saturday night overdosed. They literally
were on I guess inside the building or out on
the lawn. Several of them had to be revived with
knarckcan when they were a lot when they are revived
with knarkan. They weren't smoking a.
Speaker 11 (23:28):
Joint, Oh that's for sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Or if they were, it was laced with fentanyl. Let's
put it like that.
Speaker 11 (23:34):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yet no, I hear it.
Speaker 11 (23:36):
I totally don't even know what they put in it.
It put in fentinel and everything. And then if you
don't think it's another country that's doing it, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah. And and and Maduro, I'm sure is turning a
blind eye to it. And that's another reason why he's
got to he's got to go. He's got to go, Tom,
thank you much.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
He's got to go.
Speaker 11 (23:55):
Accidentally, well, accidentally on purpose.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I got you of a gray one thanks one line
open six, one seven, keep it rolling here, We're coming
back right after the break at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
It's nightside.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Boss radio.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Okay, so maybe I've been a little rough on Congressman
Hines from Connecticut. Uh. And so maybe instead of calling
these these terrorists, these are not terrorists, sailors, maybe he
should have called him mariners. You know, they were mariners.
They were just out on the ocean. Mariners. Yeah, that
(24:39):
that makes a lot. They weren't terrorists, they were mariners.
Let's keep rolling here. We're gonna go to Frank and Boston.
Frank you next time, nightside.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Welcome, Hello, sir, Hi Frank. The problem I have with
this situation in the dead we're not seeing what's getting
what's going wrong here. We want to attack Knarco terrorists,
(25:06):
but we're down in Venezuela, which is thousands of miles
and that a powerboat will take forever to get here.
Speaker 12 (25:13):
Number.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
If we want to take our knackle terrorists, we ought
to be going into Mexico. Mexico had a protest the
other day where hundreds of people, so hundreds of thousand
people came out because Knacko terrorists down there are killing
their politicians, are killing their businessmen, are killing their farmers.
We are to be in Mexico.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
And then we're talking about we.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
Double tapped one boat when we could have used that
as baits to bring the other boat that we could
have sunk too, but instead we sought that one boat
because we thought another boat was coming. Why didn't we
wait for the other boats to come in and blow
both of them up?
Speaker 13 (25:49):
Were up here?
Speaker 8 (25:50):
We got a president got acts like he's a puppet
for Putin and what we want to kiss his ass?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Okay, I get you. I'm a fan of Trump, Okay,
which is fine.
Speaker 14 (26:03):
I'm not I'm not a truck ofity. I'm not a
fan of insanity. Were trusting this man and he's doing
the wrong thing and we think that's good.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That's fine. I'm glad to hear a different point of view.
I'm not gonna argue with you. I suspect that there's
not not much that that that Trump has done that
you would applaud. Would you applaud him closing off myself
southern border.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
I'm applauding him for blowing these trucks, these boats up
in the down there in Venezuela, because the one nation
that he'll probably saving from those knocko terrorists is either Suriname,
which is in South America, Iguana, which is in South America.
Uh Trump trey Ler Tobago, which is swayed down there
(26:54):
in South America. They're probably the ones who are move
benefiting from this. If we want to president to benefit
our country, that we need to go into Mexico and
stop them. There ones who.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Will be you never know, Frank, when he does that,
you can call and uh and tell me what that you.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Predicted me doing it now he's supposed to be doing
it now.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
All right, Well he's not doing he's not doing enough
as far as you're concerned. I guess, no problem.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Not because you know have you seen how how how
many miles will take? Do you know how many miles
it is from Venezuela to the.
Speaker 14 (27:33):
Largo.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't think that. I don't think they're coming into
Key Largo, Okay, I don't.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Think they're saying that distance.
Speaker 14 (27:40):
That distance, right, there's thousands of.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Miles, and in an open boat with four motors, it'll
take you forever to get here.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
The boats move pretty quickly. I think that they're heading
to places. They're not going to Key Largo. There's a
couple of stops along the way. That's all. Hey, Frank,
I appreciate you. I appreciate your viewpoint. I got full lines,
and so I got to give everybody a chance tonight. Okay,
thank you so much for joining us. We'll talk again.
Thanks Frank, appreciate it. Okay, let me go next to Will.
(28:08):
We got to be quick here because they got pack lines.
Will go ahead.
Speaker 13 (28:12):
Okay, then, I mean I think that, you know, I
don't really disagree with Harvey much, but I would say
that there's plenty of evidence in twenty twenty when you
see places like Oregon decriminal decriminalize hard drugs like heroin,
that in twenty twenty four they rolled it back because
without the threat of coercion or mandates into programs, people
don't get sober. And then they had tons of crime
(28:33):
and disorderly conducts and all types of things that they
had to roll that back. So that didn't work. So
we have evidence on our own soil of that not working.
More importantly, you have you know, I look at Venezuela
as like almost like a weapons of mass destruction situation
like we did in Iraq, except you know, we know
it's there. We know that they're producing lots of cocaine
(28:54):
and fent and on all these things and bringing it here.
But it's an excuse to get involved in a region
that we have ignored for decades. Okay, He's just the
first and the easiest to go after, because we know
that it's an illegitimate regime that runs fake elections, and
they had one election for a communist when they had
Hugo Chavez, and then for decades after they've had none. Okay,
(29:17):
So the world will kind of turn a blind eye
to our action in Venezuela because soon to follow will
be the IMF, the World Bank, and you'll probably have
an Interran president like the woman that won the Nobel
Peace Prize over in Venezuela, right right, take over in Venezuela,
and we have an excuse to get into the region.
And like your last caller, who I agree with, actually,
(29:38):
narco terrorists in Mexico will probably be next on the list,
which also has a communist president. Colombia who ramped up
their cocaine production under Patro three times, which was already
the cocaine production of the world. Right next door in
Colombia will also probably be on the hit list. So
you know, you have a part of the world, a
region of the world which I would argue on like Obama,
(30:01):
Obama's seven countries as opposed to George Bush's four which
this hyperpartisanship is evident in the Democrats' ability to show,
you know, massive hypocrisy on this level where Obama bombs
more countries than George Bush five hundred and sixty seven
drone strikes under Obama compared to fifty seven under George
(30:21):
Bush tenfold, it went up, okay, and they didn't say anything.
They didn't say anything when he deposed of a dictator
over there in Libya, which, to be honest with you, you
didn't know me. Then I strongly criticized the right, not
because I agreed with deposing Kadafi, but the fact that
the right, their calls to destroy men like Kaddaffi were
so strong when we invaded places like Iraq that for
(30:44):
them to turn around and say, how dare you do
this when his links to terrorism were so vast they
hardly needed to be stated, And then all of a
sudden they went on the partisanship. You didn't ask for
approval when George Bush was bombing everything in sight. So
I think that this hyper partisanship has led this country
into an area where we no longer want to do
things that are for the national security and the interest
(31:05):
for the United States of America because at the end
of the day, these communist needs leaders, not only do
they sell us drugs and they want to kill us
and poisonous, but they're dealing with enemies down there. I
was just there, you know, I was there in Colombia
just a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I know that. By the way, Will, you're covering so
much ground here. It's it's it's it's amazing.
Speaker 13 (31:26):
Is this we're trying to get into the region because
it's been neglected and right now China, Russia and Iran
are taking over that region, making tons of money there
and putting massive influence on All.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Of those arguments are so true. But I just want
to come back to I think the point that's most
important is that the concept of this hyperpartisenship that as
opposed to the Democrats or the Republicans saying, you know
what the president is doing, he's not a member of
my party, but I agree with it, and that you know,
this fentanyl doesn't discriminate between Democrats Republicans. It's not just
(32:03):
killing Republican kids. It's killing Democrats kit Republican kids. Doesn't match.
Speaker 13 (32:09):
He started saving us, and I know lots of people
that are dead from this more than most people. Because
my entire life I have dedicated this that seventeen years
to helping addicts. Gets over, and I have to tell
you now, he started all of this saving Americans when
he closed down this border and stopped the legal immigration
with the laws that currently existed on the books. He
didn't have to have any new legislation to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
All right, welcome, Rick, got to let you go. Thank
you much. A lot of information coming back on Night's
Side one line at six, one, seven, two fast, four
to ten thirty.
Speaker 13 (32:38):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Let's keep rolling here, trying to get everybody in. That's
my goal. Carolyn Randolph, Hey, Carol, welcome. How are you?
Speaker 7 (32:52):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Dan?
Speaker 15 (32:53):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm good. I let you take it.
Speaker 15 (32:55):
I enjoyed listen to Will. I mean my take on this,
im letely agree with what Trump is doing. I mean,
go after the drugs.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
We should call think we should call the terrorists sailors
or mariners.
Speaker 15 (33:11):
Oh, they're terrorists.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I know that I've already teased. I'm teasing you and
making fun of Congressman Hinds.
Speaker 15 (33:18):
No, but with congressmen, this is what I mean. You've
got a president. Okay, he ran a show that was
The Apprentice, And now I'm kind of looking at Congress.
Are they all additioning to be the Apprentice? They're not
doing their jobs, They're all trying to build their personality
(33:38):
and this and that.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
They someone someone said it, characters, someone said it. They're
all hyperpartisan. They're they're hyper I mean Maxine Waters, she
hasn't had a thought that made sense to me in
in decades, never mind years. I mean it's like you
heard her before for it just it's absolutely.
Speaker 15 (34:02):
Kill them all wherever they are. And yeah, I mean
they are becoming cartoon characters. These are the people that
were elected to represent the people. They're like auditions on
the Apprentice. Who can be the most outrageous, who can
be the craziest.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I like the analogy, I really do. I think it works.
Speaker 15 (34:29):
It's fucked. Oh my god. These are the people that
are running our country.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Well they tried. They're not right now, but they were
for four years.
Speaker 15 (34:42):
Who's got one president that is finally doing what people
wanted and they're like, oh my god, the Maryland man
say that their.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Sorry all right, Carol, I got I got four behind you.
We're going to try to get them all in. Okay,
thanks so much. Love your passion. I love your passion.
Thank good night. Tom is in Norton, Massachusetts. Tom, You're
next on nightside.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
You're right, thank you.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
I support the thinking of these boats. They're not out
of fishing.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (35:17):
And also I'm wondering these these the politicians that are
so strongly against Trump's actions against these fishermen, sailors, mariners, whatever. Yeah,
one of them, these guys are the same ones that
lobby's for the drug company. Because the drug treatment industry
is a very big industry, and I'm wondering if these
(35:37):
people are being pressured, you know, to to maybe allow
the drug.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I don't think that they're thinking that deeply in all honestly,
I think it's a great question you raise, But I
don't think they think that deeply. I think it's like Trump,
will you Trump bad? I mean, I think it's it's
kind of neandothal thinking that they don't like Trump, which
is fine. Who I mean, there's a lot not to
(36:06):
like about him. He's not the most personal guy in
the world. He I think he's his own worst enemy.
You've heard me say that but but if he does
something that's correct, it's gonna save Americans lives. I'm gonna
say I support it. I'm sorry, and I know that
there were friends of mine who could say, how could
you support, you know, killing people who are just trying
to earn a living. I mean, you know it's they're
(36:30):
selling point, they're transporting poison. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 16 (36:33):
I mean, this is yeah, absolutely, and I'm so glad
that the uh that those seven kids of Providence survived,
because those are those areas, nephew, son's daughters, your daughter's boyfriend, whatever,
you got it, somebody somebody that has lost their battle.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
But couldn't agree with you more couldn't agree with you, Tom,
great call, you said it, well, you said it succinctly.
Thank you much, my friend. Good night. Let me roll
Linda in Natick, Linda, you're next door, nightside, go right ahead, Hi, Dan, hid.
Speaker 17 (37:08):
So listen every night. And I just want to mention
a couple of things that were missing from the.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
Conversation to night.
Speaker 17 (37:17):
And this information came from the Admiral when he testified
for Congress YEP in front of Congress, and he said
that these both were not headed of the United States.
They were headed for an island off then israela begins
with an f I can't remember the name of it,
and probably going to Europe. But they were carrying cocaine.
They were not carrying fentanyl. The sentinel comes from Mexico,
(37:41):
and I'm all for you know, stopping in any way
we can drugs. Fentanyl was the killing people, but cocaine
is a is a whole different thing, and it was
not headed for the United States. Did you know that.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I'm aware. I don't know what was in the boats
per se, but I'm hoping that the CIA has uh
has people uh in Venezuela. I certainly don't think that
they were carrying Christmas presents. I know they were carrying drugs.
Were carrying cocaine, right, And also cocaine could be laced
(38:16):
with fentanyl. Uh, And there have been a lot of
people who have died thinking what they think is a
drug that is a party drug, but but once it's
laced with fentanyl, it's it's a deadly combination.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
So yeah, so the sentinel does come from Mexico.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, well, fentanyl comes uh, it's it comes from China,
and it's it's then turned into pill form uh in Mexico.
You're right on that. So do you support or do
you oppose what the administration is doing on this?
Speaker 17 (38:52):
Well, I don't know too much about it, but I.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Well, you know what you're telling me. You do know
a lot. You're telling me that that you that this
is cocaine and the boat's not Sentinel. I'll accept that.
Do you support what the Trump administration is doing or no.
Speaker 17 (39:08):
I support them legally blowing up boats. I don't support
them suiting the two survivors.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Well, then they may have done the survivors a real
favor by doing that, because if they had been left
there hanging off their boats, you know what their fate
probably would have been sharks sharks, And given a choice
between being blown up quickly and dying at the hands
of sharks, I might take being blown up quickly. Thanks Linda,
(39:42):
I got to run. Thank you so much. Appreciate your call.
Let me go, Rick and Bill, Rick or Rick like
to get you and one more in Please.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
Go ahead, Rick atally Dan. Yeah, I like what Melinda said.
A moment ago. I support Pete Haag said in the military,
you know, taking these ships out as long as they
are their intelligence proper and I trusted it, yep. But
I I and I support them if they if they're intelligence,
probably hit them. But hitting those two guys, I think.
(40:10):
I think that was bad.
Speaker 7 (40:11):
I don't.
Speaker 12 (40:12):
It shows no mercy that the United States has no mercy.
That's how I see it. Yeah, it doesn't give me
a good feeling inside. They they they propagate all this
talk of Christianity.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
And well there and they're probably going to be shark bait.
You know that.
Speaker 12 (40:30):
Well maybe maybe maybe not. I don't know, but I
would have it would have been better if they if
they grabbed them up, and maybe they could have helped
them stop more stuff. They could have put them in
a protection thing and grabbed them out. I don't know.
It could have been done. Yeah, I think it could
have been done better.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Then all.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
You're always welcome here your rational region, and I appreciate
you calling Rob. What do we get left on time? Okay,
we only have thirty seconds left, GEO. I wish you
called earlier. We would have been able to get you
in with the last caller. I'm sorry. I apologize. Get
you tomorrow night, Geo. We will be back on nightside
tomorrow night. I will be on Facebook right Nightside with
(41:09):
Dan Ray in just about a moment or two. Rob Brooks,
thanks much, Karen Bussemi, thank you all. I want to
thank tell all of you all dogs. Remind you all dogs,
all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's my pal
Charlie ray Is, who died fifteen years ago. That's where
he passed away. I know he's in heaven. That's where
your pets are. I hope you see them again. I
do believe you'll see them again. My name is Dan Ray.
This is Nightside. Have a great Tuesday. Stay warm everyone,
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