3008: RACISM UNDEFEATED NEVER LOST

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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my cost and we're live on a Saturday morning, early
Saturday morning for us, because we got a lot of
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Thank you. I appreciate that. I take that shit serious,
and man, that means a lot to me. You know,

(04:12):
there's certain interviews we actually haven't done if I haven't
had the time to like research it and know the
person and read this stuff, and you have to delay
the interview until cause I like to know what the
fuck I'm talking about. Try not to do too many
of these interviews. You hear everywhere where people just like
so you with you like a congressman or something. You know, like,
I hate those interviews. So thank you for appreciating that.

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That's that's a big deal to me. I write down
a lot of questions and shit, all right, let's get
to these episodes we had. I think four or five
episodes throughout the week. Because I made the pregame, which
is normally behind the paywall, I made that episode free
to everybody to go listen to and comment on the
website and everything, put it on the main feed, put

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it on YouTube basically so that I knew pe Pole
will want to hear our reaction to the election results.
And I didn't want you to have to wait till Saturday,
and I didn't want to put it behind the paywalld
and be like, we'll pay to here what we got
to say. You know, it feels like a pretty major event.
And if you enjoyed that, we do a show like
that every week in addition to our sports show, and

(05:19):
Justin is on there, and if you if you like
the vibes, if you like the real talk, the discussion
of life and stuff, I would suggest that you hop
on there. You know, this next this next four year
is going to be crazy because that economy that everybody
thinks is going to happen. That that a lot of
these activists and black like blacktavists and whatever special marginalizize

(05:45):
group that people were in where they kind of depend
on the kindness and donation and investment of guilty, feeling
white people, guilty, feeling people that is not coming.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
No, it's not that's old, that's that that that ship
is selled.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yes, And so I knew people that literally made millions
of dollars in twenty sixteen off of Trump selection. I
knew people that made lots of money off of George
Floyd being killed. And I don't mean it like they
killed them or they was hoping for him to get killed.
I just mean it's the facts. Just something bad happened
and people felt bad, and then they just wanted to

(06:20):
find a way to help, and they wanted to support
voices that would speak up and educate them and make
them feel better. And I'm sure we benefited from that.
Like I'm not even saying like we weren't trying. We
don't do our show for those causes, but I'm sure
there were people that were like, man, let me just
do something, and I just want to support the voices

(06:41):
that I think are saying some important things. I don't
think that's happening this time. I think the people that
made the decisions they made in that voting booth, I
think the people that see Trump coming to the White
House wanted that, and I don't think there's going to
be any buyers re more so regret. I mean, he
would have to do something to greed is in office
for people to feel a level of like, shit, we

(07:03):
really fucked up. How can we buy our way out
of this. We've been covering on this show for over
a year or two now, I mean with Zach from
the Living Corporate podcast, we just talked about this, the
d investment in DEI, the amount the people want to
go back. They want to take away progressive causes, they
want to take away the progress that America has made

(07:24):
with diversity and all this stuff. So all that to say,
if you're thinking about going premium, if you want to
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dot com slash premium sign up. You know, we're definitely
gonna need it over these next years, Like this shit
is is gonna be wild. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
And also it's one of these things where a lot
of people its just mean with bonding. Everything was too smooth,
And I think for a lot of people, they profit
off of chaos, you know, good ways and bad people
just profit off of chaos. And Trump was a lightning

(08:04):
rod for a lot of people, just like Obama a
lightning rod for a lot of people. This is why
they drum on them. This is why they consistently bring
them up no matter what's happening, because they know if
you say Obama, if you say Trump is like, you're
gonna get the clicks, You're gonna get the engagement, and
people just are just going to show up no matter what.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yep you have.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You had a lot of people who got TV time
when Obama was in office. Them niggas is gone. You know,
you had some people the same thing, got TV time
when Trump was in office of the first time, and
they no longer there. Because the thing is, when they
feel like they don't need you no more, they basically
push you out the front door. And that's to go
back on what you said this time. Ain't no jobs coming,

(08:46):
ain't no hiring coming. They're not bring you in for diversity,
They're not bring you in for your opinion because like
Roger said, this is exactly what they wanted. And so
the thing is, they don't need you to explain. They
don't need you to quell white people's guilt quote unquote,
because they do not as an as masses. They do
not feel guilty, and this is exactly what they wanted.
And so this is what they wanted. I hope they

(09:07):
get everything that they wished for and we will see
what's gonna happen next.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
All right, So these episodes three thousand and four speaking
of Seafood was the first one as our feedback show.
We got seven comments. Oppia says, sometimes it's necessary to
cut contact with family members of other people who turn
out to be terrible. But I also noticed that this
suggestion is given pretty often. Conflict isn't per se a
bad thing, and both parties can learn from it, not
saying it works every time, but it also doesn't not

(09:32):
work every time. It's Rod often says conflict is an abuse. Yeah,
it's a great book that I read. I think people
should check it out. It changed my life. It changed
the way I look at things. It's one of the
toughest things I've ever read, because I think I was
very indoctrinated with the way people were speaking about each

(09:52):
other on the Internet and the way people were trying
to make that stuff seem like it made sense in
real life for every situation, and it does not. And
it taught me about you know, varying degrees of right
and wrong, and emotionality and stuff affects each other, so

(10:14):
conflict is not abuse. Overstating harm. Community Responsibility and the
Duty of Repair by Sarah Shulman one of the greatest
books I've ever read, and I cite it often because
it it really is tough to read, especially if you're
one of these like stuck in the internet type people.
I'm not, you know, dissing y'all or whatever. I was
one of them too, But it's tough to read. But man,

(10:37):
it's so important. It's so important. We need We need
that more than ever. On the other hand, you see
where every everywhere articles about the loneliness epidemic and that
it's a bad thing. I might see a link. When
you cut out everyone in your life who doesn't agree
with you on every topic, it's pretty lonely. And no,
I'm not saying continue to have a relationship with people
who really don't deserve it. Yeah, and you know you're
doing the same thing I do. I keep qualifying it

(10:57):
to let people know I'm not talking about someone abused you.
I'm not talking about someone who's like I don't think
gay people should exist anyway. Get out of my house,
my gay son? What you not accepting me? Like, I'm
not talking about that shit I'm talking about there's certain
stuff where it's like I've seen people flip out over
people just did not understanding the new concept. Yeah, Like

(11:19):
it's a new concept. You didn't understand when you were
introduced to it, and it took you a second, and
now it's a new concept to this person. And instead
of saying, oh, you just don't understand the concept, okay,
it might take you a second and wrap your head around.
If you have any questions, let's talk this out. You know,
it's not a bad thing. It's okay to have an
idea that you challenge but don't understand, right, Instead, a

(11:42):
lot of times you're a bad person. I'm shunning you
until you change your point of view even though you
don't even know. And I might not even really know.
I agree, I know the rights, cultural signifiers and stuff
like that. So it can get complicated and people are emotional,
and then it spirals out from there. And so those
are the things I'm talking about. And a lot of

(12:05):
times we uh, I think we have a duty to
pull each other out of that shit to if we
want to move forward. We have a duty to be
like I'm not like I said, I'm not telling you
bend over baggles, are not telling you deal with abuse
and all that stuff. I'm just saying stuff where it's like, hey,
I didn't you know. I still remember the first time

(12:26):
someone introduced me to the concept of a trans person.
I did not know. I was ignorant and I wasn't
And that's not me saying I wasn't running around calling
people slurs and trying to be funny with jokes. I
just literally did not know. It was a new concept
to me. And if that person would have said, man,
fuck you, you don't know what I'm talking about, when
fuck you didn't, I'm sure I would have went down
some level of path that would not have been productive

(12:49):
for either one of us, where I would have been like, shit,
I mean, this person just flipped out on me. I
don't even know what the fuck they're mad about, and
this whole concept just becomes a thing I'm scared of,
or thing that I don't want to talk about, or
thing that in many cases people get defensive about and
join the other side. And you know, so it's little

(13:09):
stuff like that where you know, I remember I still
remember our listener Olivia writing in and explain to me
about trans transitioning and hormones and why prison people in
prison would still need that even if they're trends and
how I'm looking at it like some special privilege people

(13:33):
are getting. She's like, if this is this person's orientation
and they have this right to their body and their autonomy,
it doesn't change because they went to prison, right, Like
you know, that's like saying if someone needed insolent or something.
I know many of you will disagree, but this is
not about disagreeing. I'm just giving you example. If someone
needed insolent and they went to prison, they went, well,
you gave up your right to insulin. You're in prison. Now,

(13:55):
we'd be like, that's unfair, that's cruel, and that's unusual.
You have a duty to keep that person alive, ye,
duty to make sure that person is healthy. Well, if
someone is in prison and they're not getting their hormones
for their hormone therapy anymore, it does mean something. It
is a right that they know that they lost that. Uh,
it's something we would we would see as an inalienable

(14:17):
right in other situations. So that's uh so because she
wrote in like that. It actually helped me because I
was like, I don't fully understand everything, but I but
this what you wrote gave me a perspective I did
not have that I wouldn't have got if you just
was like you transphobic biggot, I would have been like,
what what the fuck did I say? I don't know,
I don't know how this works, and blah blah blah.

(14:39):
And so anyway, that was my example and.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
A lot of times, and I do completely understand people's
perspective whenever you like, I don't want to be your
m blah blah blah blah blah, I get that. But
also at the same time, when concepts are knew, like
like brand new, like it's just getting into the zeitgeys,
you have to get people time to adjust, particularly people

(15:03):
that are will meaning I know, mean people that I
hate for when literally people that are will meaning and
they don't understand what you're talking about because nobody responds
to that negative energy. You didn't even respond to the
negative energy person who just knowned about it three minutes
before I did. And the first response when people respond
like that is to get defensive.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
You're like, hey, I didn't ask for this.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm not coming in here burning the building down, but
all of a sudden, I'm getting met with flames like that.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Shit matters.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yep, all right. Matt responds to this and says, I've
said by the extended family, at least on social media.
When I lived in New York, Conservative concert convert conversations,
I always got quiet when I was around. Obviously, based
on what I brought up last week, that is a
lifelong project. It's been harder since he got a smartphone.
So yeah, smartphone stupid people. Swaveyp says on the whole

(15:53):
cut contact with family member slash friends conversation, all always
think it was well down. Just at brother Randolph Terrence
l ol, Sorry brother Randolph Swab. I'ma be honest, I
don't even under I'm definitely not talking about Randolph, and
I'm not really sure what that would have to do
with it. You know, I don't think I wasn't thinking
of Randolph when I was talking about that, So yeah,

(16:17):
I don't know. You know, Randolph's my friend and you know, uh,
we've had conversations about stuff like that, and uh, I think,
like I said, I don't think anyone should have to
deal tolerate abuse. And I think it's not our duty

(16:38):
or responsibility to try to like h bridge people who
are doing harmful shit to us. Uh So, I don't know,
I don't know. Maybe it's a joke I missed in that,
but I wasn't thinking of Randolph when I said that.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
And also it's an individual decision, like these are individual
choices people are making too interact and to interacting. Different
people had different spots in their life, Different people had
different growths in their lives, and I think a lot
of times for some people they tell everybody else to
do that because that's how they would handle it. Well,
I'm not you, and let me get there whenever I

(17:17):
get there, Give me the same right to make the choice,
just like you had the same right to make your
choice on when and when you would not interact or
cut people off and things like that.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, I just don't want to because they specifically named
a person. I just don't want to know messy shit happening, right,
people trying to be funny and then you just never
know how people take that shit. And so I wasn't
talking about Randolph. And you know, in case, that's not
a joke or some type. Just letting people know. Ronna
Raphael says, man that Arby's joke was award winning good

(17:46):
true greatness. There Now, our girl got one week to respond,
defend your honor. It's not if you're not behind the
pay while you're missing out and present I present law
abiding questions like what happens when you order piece of
number forty and white rain is delivered. It's a huge
philosophical dilemma. Tune in to find out. Evie replied, what's
to defend? They still had the meets ron and Raphael says,
By the way, shout out to Dems Abroad. I got

(18:08):
my eighty seven year old mom living overseas to vote
early using their website Let's Go a Trump I in
the family had told her that she couldn't vote, so
she casually brought it to me about wanting to vote
for VP Harris. I immediately activated a grandkid in easy
pas Dems Abroad rocks, so I'm a multi universal great
Get your money ready for my next event. Matt Ashville said, Okay,

(18:28):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
You know I'm saying let's go.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I appreciate that, and you know, I hate we couldn't
have him on the show this go round, but I'm
very glad that they were able to, you know, be
able to get the message out and still allow people
abroad to vote. Because y'all matter too, because y'all are
also American citizens, and what the fuck happens here impacts
you all over the world.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Madd Ashville says. Also, most importantly, Rod and Karen, thank
you for this podcast and creating the space with listening
feedback is welcoming part of the show. I appreciate y'all close.
I was getting to the high from the website treatment
that the next responder got few. I found y'all through
for our nerds, and ever since, all the podcasts I
listened to have been very sad and left in the queue. Well,

(19:13):
we don't mean for you to leave the other shows alone,
but I'm glad you're enjoying them.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Sure, shout the foot all, nerds.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Let's check out the YouTube comments for this episode three
thousand and four. Speaking of seafood, Delay just says, I'm
one of the cool kid listeners that came from tweb. Damn,
how long ago was a twilbarrow? Time has been a
blur yo, that child.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Time has been It has been a blurd child. I
don't know what teen years, probably longer than that.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I had a job job when I was listening to twelve.
I used to call them on my breaks from work
and on my way home from work, like that was
a time. That was a time. It was a time,
and I loved that show. Man to that show. I
understand why I went away and everything that happened. You know,
it's kind of like a foray into learning about the

(20:04):
Internet and social media in real time. But man, you know,
I still have fond memories of twelve and the people
that were hosts there and Elon and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I got beautiful relationships based off of that show, like
friendships and things like that.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
And I still do hate the way that it kind
of ended after the hilly Clinton election and the way
things went down. It just felt like a real waste.
But yeah, it is what it is. I enjoyed that show.
Rebecca says, thank you, thank you for honoring me by
using my comment speaking of seafood as the episode title.

(20:41):
It warms my heart. I made you both laugh, love
you both, love you podcast. Thank you, Rebecca. That was funny. Yeah,
it was.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
That was funny, just because it just came out of
nowhere like that. It's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
That was funny, all right. Next episode is three thousand
and five yelling at Babies. We had five comments. Let's
get to these comments. Appia said, when I eat stuff
out of mister Oppoia's play, I call it marriage tax
for all the work and services I provide for our lives.
I'm sure you do.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Call it something.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Rona Raphael says, I just need to know when are
we getting yelling at baby's T shirt. I already have
a target in mind. I already voted in the polls
before our real recall witness and some wild ship at
a pole place back during my hardcourt days in Nigeria.
I also witness in Legos and Ibadan, so my vote

(21:32):
should have been yes. Let's just say that it was
an altercation between two major party agents while police and
soldiers and by watch until they were satisfied. You triggered memories.
But an exl T shirt can begin my multimensional his
multi dimensional healing. Yelling at baby's shirt. I guess we
could maybe commission an artists to do something like that.

(21:53):
I mean, fuck it, you know, I still feel like
yelling at them fucking bad.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yell at.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Y'all got them babies, put your babies a goddamn shield.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, I mean we needed more. Obviously, we needed more
energy yelling at babies.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
We get, we needed to yell at more babies. Apparently
I wasn't enough.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I forget my good sister, and we were on three
guys on when we saw that clip, and I made
a bunch of references to how I appreciated the energy
from that woman, and that was a lady and a
woman in the chat who uh, she couldn't get past
her resentment for a white women's privilege to to say

(22:35):
like that woman was on the right path now, in
addition to a kept trying to kill my fucking joke,
which I'll know I take seriously, I don't care the joke.
She just made me double triple down to keep going
harder because I'm like, you're not killing my joke. This
shit is funny, what I'm saying. But then the second
thing was now that we got them results, don't y'all
wish more of these white ladies had that energy, because

(22:58):
I definitely do.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
And my and my thing is this, I understand that
black people in masses they feel a certain way about
white people in their privilege. And the thing is, having
privilege is not always a bad thing when that privilege
is used to push your rights. I am okay with
them using their privilege in that way. Some black people

(23:19):
are like, white people, just get out of here, No bitch,
we need them. This election showed that we need then
we cannot do it on our own.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
We cannot go off on the island. We can act,
we cannot.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Act like if we go on our own and do
our thing, they will leave us alone.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
This shit won't happen.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
White people have got to stand up in masses and
go against white people. Why because history has showed us
whenever we did this, you know what they do. They
come to our towns and they burn shit down. You
know what, when we go off on the own, you
know what they do. They come and they take our land,
and when we're running, they shoot us. That's what happened
when we go off and do our own shit. We
need white people to use their white privilege against other

(23:57):
white people because.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
They will not hear us out.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, if they're gonna be over here, I'd rather they
use that privilege for good, all right. So and even
in that situation, I don't I don't even know that
that's a white privileged thing. It was just she was
going extra hard. If a black woman would have yelled
that baby, I would have been supporting that too. She
going a T shirt anyway. Razie D. Jenkins has five stars.

(24:21):
We live in northeast Texas, fifty miles north of Dallas
Fort Worth. When I worked the last election as a
poll clerk, couples came in, sat by one another and
voted twenty five year olds up through their seventies. Can
you guess the race of those couples who did that.
They also brought their children and could run around, cross
shoot shout, and keep up confusion throughout the parents' voting process.

(24:43):
We had no pole officials or police to remind them
about the individual and quiet voting process. My hubs and
I voted two weeks ago, and they separated us. I
guess some sorts of guess those people were white, because
I don't know. I'm not one hundredson. Sure I got
what you was putting down on that, but I do
wonder if they split him up or not. I know,
me and Karen have never gotten to vote together. But

(25:03):
I don't know if there's like a wink wink, oh
it's a white couple. They need to vote side by
side so the man can check her page. I have
no idea shoe Bobby says Karen straight two minutes of
unether and justified Ari's rage a rod right. Like I said,
it's about vibes. I love all of this. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Me and Ron see each other out yep.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Sean says, if you don't want your baby, yeo that
don't use her as a proper humust slashy min Shield agree,
but you hate phil anti abortion rhetoric that father should
be investigated for abuse and neglect and have his daughter
moved to a home that respects her safety and bodily autonomy.
I agree, and here's why. Like, I don't know if
he is abusive, but I think that's a very dangerous

(25:49):
thing to do to a baby. And the reason I
think that's different than say, bring your child on the
march for Black Lives Matter, is that you brought someone
out to an anti protest movement, right, and you put
your baby on the front lines to and the baby
has no fucking say. The baby doesn't know shit, it's
a fucking baby. Baby, What are you doing? That's so

(26:11):
ridiculous and dangerous. That's crazy. That's like if you that's
the difference to me between bringing a baby to a
Black Lives Matter march. Right, let's stick. Let's stick to
just our side, the side of what we think is
good people. Okay, if you bought a baby to a
Black Lives Matter in March, no problem. If you brought
your baby to Charlottesville, I would be like it, don't

(26:32):
mind what fucking side you're on. You knew that was
gonna be a fight with Nazis. Why the fuck is
your baby out there on the front lines of a
fight with Nazis? You think that Nazi supposed to look
over there and go, oh, you know, here's a baby. No,
that's that's crazy that that man did that, And it's
crazy that people got mad at her yelling at the baby, like, guys,
let's keep out the corn about our rights. Fuck that.

(26:54):
And I'm one thousand percent sure if that man would
have been calling him in words, are wearing a clan
hoodie or some shit like that, y'all would not have
gave a fuck about that baby. And that not that
y'all did, the general general public would not have give
a fuck about that fucking baby. It'd be like, motherfucking
fuck you. Anyway, we leave that yelling at baby energy

(27:15):
though it's.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
All what I'm saying, keep yelling at them.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I just realized we didn't do the poll for the
last one. Sorry, guys, are you looking forward to moving
our clocks back an hour? Was a poll?

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Thirty eight percent, No, sixty percent, And we don't have
daylight saving a time where I live two percent there
ago all right, Now for this one, the poles, have
you ever personally witness an altercation at the polling place?
For about five percent of y'all have? Ninety five percent
of y'all have not. But that is important because my
point was I wanted to make with that Poe was
a lot of us were supposed to be worried and

(27:47):
nervous over something that wasn't gonna happen. Right. You know,
we did essentially have our election on Tuesday, and there
was nobody running up on polling places and harming people.
There were bomb threats that were called in from Russia,
which is a whole nother form of voter suppression, and
I don't know what you do with that ship. Agreed,
it only happens And keep in mind, this suppression tactic

(28:09):
only happens in black places. I don't know what you're
supposed to. What are we supposed to do with this
that no one's calling in bomb threats to fucking West Virginia,
you know, anyway, So, but they wanted your fear. They
wanted you to be afraid to go in there and
pull the lever every like every other time you ever
pulled it, And they wanted every time they they I've

(28:30):
seen these type of rumors and allegations and stuff come,
and I don't want our audience to be afraid. I
refuse to let y'all give in to irrational fear.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I don't irrational logical.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I don't mind if we have some evidence based reason
to be like we should not go cool. But you know,
we have ancestors that literally went to the poll with
their guns, like, well listen, we're gonna shoot the fair wind.
They not asking us to do that like this, this
this is still not that version of whiteness that literally
was taking our lives at the poles. So I personally

(29:05):
am not gonna let some maga man throwing a tantrum
keep me from going to the polls, right, And I
didn't think it was gonna be a thing where black
people need to go stand by the polls and wait
for some violence. I thought people were overreacting to that,
and that was the point. Yeah, but I mean, you
know that that turned out to not really be the issue.
Is you know, going to vote is not That's not

(29:27):
a scary proposition in America right now? All right? And
then on YouTube we got five comments. Let me get
to these uh be jingsful says or jingsful laugh my ass.
I'll shorty walked up so calmly did that baby before
cussing it out right, Cali Bruh, Mike says, Rob one

(29:47):
hundred percent. Facts on the hip hop point. Since we
gen X millennials and we're born in the hip hop,
our generation shaped and carved the road for what we
see today. I do feel like a gatekeeper of the
culture because we saw people scra from the bottom to
the top. We saw coastal culture's form. We saw the
South break in and build a whole nother wing on
the house. The way we dress, made shit in the fashion,

(30:08):
and even the way we use slang man. We came
up in a fortunate time, and I truly despise cultural
appropriation as whack because they haven't contributed to building and
fighting of the art form. And it pisses me the
fuck off when I see K pop bite you and
throw up their shitty formed interpretation of us. Every group
acts like us Black people, even I even see these
motherfuckers making mad gun references, and even Skinny no Ass

(30:32):
having Korean female rappers talking about Jesus, what's happening here?

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Turn left, what's happening talking.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
About they WAPs and as fat like bruh, shaking my head.
I also hate how people see non black people act
and move like us, and they get major love, as
if their original hashtag gate keep against new wannabes.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
All right, Cali br Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I don't agree with the vast majority of the end
of that we part ways that the part about their
appropriation stuff. Understand Black people have feelings around that shit,
but I think it's a denial of our power of
our culture when we say it's insular and that no
other race should be affected by it. Want to contribute

(31:13):
to it or be impacted by yeah, or be impacted
by Yeah, I just don't agree with that. I think
it's what I think is funny about it. And I
know it's gonna sound backwards to you and not. We
don't have to agree, but I actually think that's kind
of racist towards us. I think it's saying we have
a culture that Like, put it this way, if a

(31:33):
Korean person comes to America and they come here and
they're talking like what we deem is white people, white culture,
we will say that's American. They're being Americanized, right, we
will say they we would. What we were saying there
is that white people's culture is the culture of America

(31:55):
and that in order to be American, in order to
adapt and appropriate, that is the correct way to do it.
And what I'm saying is if a Korean person came
here and they were influenced by hip hop culture, which
is one of our biggest exports, movie, fashion, music, all
the stuff that black people created in America, if they

(32:18):
were affected by that and said that is what I
see America at America as that is how I move. Now.
I don't have a complete understanding of every cultural impact,
but guess what else they don't have? They don't have
a complete understanding of white people's maneuvers and cultural impact either.
So when they come here and they're one way versus
the other, I don't see how one is offensive to

(32:41):
me and the other isn't you know what I'm saying,
that's just me. I don't like I think that stuff
is informed by the impact of individual situations and conversations
we've had in America with different races and racism and stuff.
I'm not saying those things aren't real, but the idea
that I should just be offended that a Korean person
wants to sing R and B or a rap or

(33:04):
you know, imitate MEGANI Stallion, that that doesn't bother me.
That that's because MEGANI Stallion is such a powerful influence,
because her music is that good and her her cultural
influence is that and and I don't see it going
the other way. Like Cali Bruh. Mike, You're never gonna
write in and say I don't appreciate Megan Stallion dressing
up in anime costumes and being in Otaco. You're not
gonna say that. You know, you're not gonna say that

(33:26):
because you you don't have a problem with to go
in the other way, right, And that's and that's one
of the reasons I've talked about it on the show,
like it's it's Beyonce dressing up in that Southeast Asian
garb in that video. Well, I forget, it's like Cold
Player or somebody. And and there were any there were
people trying to complain about that, and I said, I
understand what you're saying, but at the same time, like

(33:48):
we are cross cultural, we are a melting pot, we
are blending things over here, We're creating new out of
old with the problem is just don't be disrespectful. Yes,
if you want to say, don't cultural appropriate to people
who disrespect us, well, hell yeah, I keep the fuck
out of them. You know, if you think less of us,

(34:09):
but you want to put on our cultural costume like
an Iggy Azelia, then god damn you right, I just
ride on that motherfucker. But it's a case by case basis.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
For me, it is.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
And it's also one of those things where a lot
of this shit is subjective. People have their own individual
film about race and racism because it runs deep and
all that aside, a lot of people feel like, well,
since white people hold onto their coach and to keep
us out. We're gonna hold on to what the fuck
we have and keep everybody else out. But I have
to tell you, the shit don't work like that. And
most artists that you ask are influenced by other people

(34:42):
outside of our community. Like like like things swap, they switch,
they float.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, And I watch black people go up for white
folks all the motherfucking time, right that they deem appropriate.
You know, there's so many artists that people are like,
oh my god, this this. I'll give you a great example,
Bruno Mars. Bruno Mars is a person that did not
necessarily culturally grow up black. You know, he's Filipino, but

(35:10):
the influences in his music, when you ask him about
where that, where that comes from, he can sit down
and break down to you like and with appreciation and reverence.
Like these people change the game. If it wasn't for
James Brown, this this moment the Funky Drummers did blank,
that's appreciation that that And you can't just look at

(35:31):
this man's face and go I could tell I'm offended.
This motherfucker. He ain't grow up black, so fuck him.
That's what I'm talking about. So y'all ain't gotta agree
with me. I feel very strongly on this, and y'all
feel strongly the other way, right, But I just find
it to be a very simplistic point of view to
just go this Asian person was rapping, I'm mad. Well

(35:52):
I'm not. You can be mad, that's fine. I need
to know more.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
And also it's not the same, but it's the same.
But that people get upset about this. But yet when
we get into other genres of music than are ours
and we cultivated in yeah, yeah, like we cultivated into ours,
we don't have a problem about that. Like you know,
we don't have a problem with us getting into all

(36:17):
these different genres and total.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Not just we don't have a problem. We celebrated, Yes,
we celebrated, but then.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
The revership be able to happen, Like we don't have
a lock and key on our culture. And I know
that's hard. People don't want to accept that, but we don't.
We we cannot control it. Once something is put out
into the world, it goes beyond your control.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
And like I said, my the way I see it
is that it is a complete under valuing of our
culture and the power of our culture. To think we
can keep it insular. We are too powerful for that,
and what we do influences the world too strongly for
us to think it's gonna stay within the boundaries of
our neighborhood. It's it's too dope, and it's too dope.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
And my thing.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I appreciate that, like I am grateful and I am
thankful even though people might disagree with me. I am grateful,
I am thankful for it.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Shut up ratchet scientists in the chat room saying shit
that we didn't say, and that no one's saying. Culture
is fluid, but none of this is like we decided
Beethoven's R and B and we created it. Just tell
the truth. Who the fuck is saying they created this shit?
No one is saying that. No one is saying Justin
Timberlay created R and B. That's the thing. We make

(37:30):
up to be a straw man so that we can
hate these people who come into this into this lane.
I think if you're gonna hate on someone like a
Justin Timberlay or a Miley Cyrus, I don't think you
need to create a fiction of like they acting like
they invented it.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
No.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Maybe one person wrote an article one time. That's not
why we're mad. I'm mad because Molly Cyrus does not
respect hip hop. Molly Cyrus this hip hop on her
way out when she wanted to go back to white.
That is what makes me mad. But I would not
see like what's my man's name? I wouldn't I see

(38:09):
John be An Amelia go fuck this white boy. I
can't believe he stole our culture. Would I don't. That's
not how I'm ever gonna operate. I can be more
nuanced in that. So I don't like it's only okay,
I missed the point. Then I don't think it was
explained very well. Maybe I missed something, but the point being, like,
I think there's a big ass difference between uh, this

(38:30):
snap judgment that CALLI bruhs is suggesting we all do
oh a Korean person's rapping fuck them? No, I don't.
That's not gatekeeping to me.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
No.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
And and I absolutely positive I affuse a lot of
black people feel like, because so many things have been
stolen from us, stop stealing from us.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
I get that, y'all. Ain't nobody arguing with y'all against that.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
All we're saying, as long as you come in here,
and you don't say that it is yours.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
And also, I think a lot of.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Black people get mad and upset because they feel like
when people come they get more credit than we do
own our shit. I get that, y'all. But at the
same time, as long as these people are not coming
out and saying that I created this and this is mine,
I do not have a problem. As long as you
coming here respecting the room, I don't have a problem

(39:19):
with that.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, and I think it should be I think it
should be reciprocated meaning and I expect it to be reciprocated,
you know. So like the same thing that I see
when Megan the Stallion decides like I love anime and
she appreciates anime, and she wants to dress up and
she wants to like I wouldn't be shocked if she

(39:40):
is in anime at some point she's going to Japan.
I'm sure that are Japanese people that treat her with disrespect,
you know, but a lot more Japanese people treat her
with open arms, like, yes, we see you love this
as well, we see you're a fan. Come over here
with us. And I think it's very important that that

(40:02):
flow culturally exists between different marginalized communities and whatnot. So yeah,
I think it's I don't have the snap judgment Cali
Bruh was what was promoting, and I just never will
And like I said, I'm just explaining why because I
think it somehow undervalues our power to think that, uh,

(40:23):
we're supposed to be the dopest people on earth for everybody,
so to go, well, that's off limits, guys, only black
people can rap. That's not true.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
It's like saying only you know, a black person should
not make up make classical music like why not from
why can't we add our dopeness to that shit? I
love when black people add dopeness to some shit.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
I do too, and I don't have a problem with
it at all.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
And you know, for some people, they're gonna always feel
this way because and a lot of the stems from racism.
The way white people treat us has impacted us, and
it's impacted us more than we're willing to admit sometimes.
And so anytime anybody comes in our space is not
us were weary of them and child, I get it.
And anytime anybody comes in our space and absorbs our

(41:10):
space and then go out and makes it their own.
You know, you feel a certain way because for some people,
they always think everything is a theft, and I get
that because so many things have been stolen from us.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
But it's a.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Difference between stealing something and taking something and borrowing it
and morphin it into your own because we do that
to other coaches all of the time. And I'm not
saying that your anger isn't righteous or valid. I understand it.
Be suspicious of every fucking body you know until they
prove otherwise.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, I'm saying is they wrote it in a tiggyback
on a point that I made, and it's not the
point I was making, and I don't agree with the
extra point that was making it. So I'm gonna have
to clarify my stance because I'm not saying that the
people that like. I'm not mad at these new kids
for I think they just grew up in a different
time where they take rap for granted. And yes, the
idea of having to prove yourself with every song and

(41:57):
beat is not is not Germaine of them. It's something
going on with your camera. What's happening?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, my chat froze. It was doing some funky stuff.
So I'm coming back in.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
You was on it was on screen, and then I
just saw you disappear. And you know, later when they
try to do the clips, that was a good clip
that could have been on the internet that I don't
think we could put out there. So I'm just waiting
for you to come back. I'm just gamping to give
you time. No one's blaming you. You're not in trouble. Okay,
all right, we're working on it. Everybody were just letting

(42:26):
y'all know. Okay, this is real live podcasting. But yeah,
so yeah, I don't. I just don't. I just don't
go for that. Cali Bruh and I know other black
people do. It's just we part ways on that, and
I always just find it funny because there's something there's
something about that, and maybe I'm not expressing it for

(42:47):
in a way everyone can understand, but there is something
about our reaction to that that says white acting white,
quote unquote is the right way to act. If an
Indian person comes over here and they they are uh
talking as white people talk, like I'll tell you another
great example. People feel this way about what is the

(43:11):
guy who made he's a comedian he did, Uh was
a master of none. Uh what does that do? His name? Yeah?
Uh Asason? Sorry people feel this way about season. Sorry?
And then uh, the other Indian comedian had just got

(43:35):
in trouble for stealing jokes uh or or lying about
jokes is what they were saying. Uh uh Hassimon minhach Uh.
I've heard complaints within the comedy world, and and and
and people complain about uh, both of them and their

(43:59):
affectations of what they would consider blackness, Like their slang
is influenced by blackness, They're comedy stylings influenced by blackness.
They're clothing, their you know, their haircut, stuff like that.
And I've always thought that was an interesting denotation to make,

(44:20):
because if you sat down and ask those guys who
their comedy influences are, which I've seen them asked about,
they name the same people we would name. And it
becomes apparent if you stop and think about it, most
of us think the top five to ten comedians ever,

(44:41):
we think most of them are black.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Now, if you don't stop to think about that part,
you just think, why are these motherfuckers starting to steal
black mannerisms? But if you stop and go, wait a minute,
who are my top five comedians? And a lot of
people's list is gonna look somewhere like Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock,
Richard pryor Eddie Eddie Murphy. And I'm not saying there's

(45:08):
no white people in people's top five, but but if
someone's top five had only black people, none of you
would be like what the fuck. Almost all of you
would be like, yeah, that's about right. Black people fucking
run comedy. They kill stand up. They are some of
the best and baddest motherfuckers ever to do it. And
if someone was like, I grew up as an Indian kid,

(45:30):
but I love comedy, I love stand up and I
looked at the influences and who was running shit, and
I said, oh my god, these people are geniuses. And
I'm starting to write my jokes and feel my way
through it, and a lot of that's influenced by their
points of view, their style, that technique. We would go, yeah,
that makes sense. It's what a lot of black people do.

(45:52):
Makes sense. But if that same comedian said the top
five comedians to me are Jerry sin Felt, George Carlin,
you know, and like the Bob Newhart, there's nothing but
white people. Those are the top five, the only top
five for me. And that same Indian comedian is going
out there making jokes in their styles sounding white appropriate.

(46:15):
You know, we don't say that's appropriate whiteness. We just
go he's doing comedy. That's how intrinsic and ingrained white
supremacy is in my mind. May I understand there's a
different way of thinking for most people that are viewing this.
You ain't never heard nobody express this. That's the way before.
But this is this is the conclusion I reached. We
are giving white people too much culturally when we make

(46:36):
them the default culture of America. Blackness is the culture
of America. There ain't no culture in America without blackness.
White people came to this place and destroyed culture.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Yes that did. It was already here.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Why am I giving them credit? Like I'm not giving
them credit. The shit that makes America dope culturally is
all us. It's all the brownness. It's the melting pot
ness of it all. Who fuck made rock and roll?
Who the fuck may rap? Who the fuck made blues?

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Who? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Who made black cool? Who made what was cool? On
the screen like, I'm not giving them that. So, so
if someone is outside of the culture outside of America
and they are influenced by hip hop like Drake was,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna detegrate that and be like, Nah,
you shouldn't even be doing hip hop. That's black people shit, Nah,

(47:26):
it's American shit. It just they don't want America. They
don't want Black people to feel like we're part of America.
But we the fucking backbone of it. As for how
we feel about how I feel about a confina, I've
said it many times on this show. Igonfina doesn't offend me, Nope,
And so, uh, it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
I think.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
She did a thing that a lot of people do
and and many of us don't talk about it, and
even black people do this. We if we do not
grow up around other black people, and you know black
people that have not grown up around other black people.
But a lot of times they get their cultural affectations
from from from from music and entertainment and ship and

(48:09):
they adopt that and they go too hard in it
because they don't fucking know, Like they literally are fucking
ignorant to it. They don't. They don't know. You don't
need to do all that shit. I've done that ship before.
I remember when see so, I used to rap when
I was younger. I uh probably could pull up.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Some come on own sweet water tapolam.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
And this is embarrassing for me. I'm gonna share with
y'all because it's something I need y'all to see, because
it's a point I'm trying to make. But it's embarrassing
to me. Uh the the rap I used to do
to some extent, not because I felt like I wasn't
good at it. And it's so interesting because some of

(48:52):
my songs on sound Click, which is where they are now,
some of these actually were like top like top whatever,
you know what I'm saying, Like they made the top
seven hundred songs on the internet on this website, and
I was very proud of that at the time, and
now looking back, I'm like, oh God, I'm not proud
of this at all. What the fuck was I doing?

(49:15):
But like, here's one this is and like I said,
this is embarrassing, but I'm gonna play it for y'all anyway.
Let me see if I can set the sound up
so that y'all won't get it. Hopefully an echo, right
or you know, I'm gonna leave this song, y'all. Let
me know if y'all get an echo and if if
if you do, I'll change the sound settings. Okay, so

(49:36):
let mean, how do I share this page? What's going
on with my settings over here? Oh god? Okay, all right,
it's coming. Uh, it's just moving slow. Uh, but yeah
it was. It's and and many of people. If you
haven't tried to create, if you haven't felt like outside

(49:58):
of something, you might not be able to relate to
what I'm about to play. But this is something that
very similarly I can see happening into an aquafina or
somebody like that. All right, now, it's not letting me
share the page, all right, give me I might have
to refresh, guys, give me one second. Sorry.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah, if I said, they don't hear no sound at all? Now, okay,
because you because you refreshed.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
No, no, I just refreshed. So it was something happened
on crowdcast. Be right back to the joint stage music. Okay,
I should be back now. And now I'm going to
share it and let me know if you get an echo.
If you get an echo off. Turn it off, everybody,
But like, let me look at one of these ones.

(50:44):
That is kind of fucking that's that's just embarrassing. One
of my most embarrassing. Okay, these streets is the name
of this right, I'm not I'm not street like that.
I've never sold drugs, I've never shot nobody. But this
is the ship I was rapping about. That's what everybody
else is rapping about. Now y'all getting an echo? Let

(51:09):
me let's stop real quick. Care you watch the chat.
Let me know if they're getting an echo, because if
they're getting an echo, I'll stop here.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Y'all getting the echo, y'all let us know. We don't
know if y'all getting an echo or not.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Hopefully y'all heard the first six seconds.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Yeah of it, to let us know if y'all echo.
I know it's kind of a delay. I'm waiting to
see no echo.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Okay, all right, here we go, guys. This is embarrassing.
I hate that y'all are hearing this, but it's important.
Crab your dollar. Why is this intro so long? I

(51:54):
don't remember this.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
Said?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
We ease lived. So if I'm on these streets, you
gotta kid mills or you Now on these.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Streets, you can get killed if you've out on these streets.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
How many niggas riding with me? It's not too many niggas.
I just sit back, relax and be taking my time.
Never know which way you could turn. My niggas stay
with the bird, so we stay on the ground.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
My niggas stay a little with the naze. That just
so we learned.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Because I'm hollowtails. They sure we can burn and freeze,
but lets that you freeze. You wanna turn you to
what's statue? Because little with me told me never brack
up about.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
The murderer race.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Just look while they raft. I think that you have
you balling the Pelican base.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
What more can I say?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
See, I'm straight from q Seed. Like the street I'm
named after, keeps playing with the flame to your brain,
get shattered the lad from the playma make your whole
brains by the time motive. I have never even shoplifted.
What the fuck was I doing?

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Right?

Speaker 2 (52:49):
You know what I'm saying? But I was like younger,
but not that young like not not. I wasn't like
a teenager. I wasn't a kid. I was a grown
ass man with a job, like making songs about killing
people and getting shot and shit. And that's and that's
the thing. You have to find your what you have
to find yourself within the music, and you don't necessarily

(53:09):
know that when you start. I actually ended up later
making much better music that I would stand behind that
I actually, you know, thought was saying something and all
of that stuff, and like, I'm not embarrassed at that music,
but it was embarrassing to listen to that because that

(53:30):
is not It's not about the proficiency or being good
at rap. That's more about I'm not living that life.
That's not true to who I am. Right, But where
did I get that from? Cause I'm listening to Cameron,
I'm listening to jay Z, I'm listening to Rockefeller, I'm
listening to Chronic. I'm listening to shit that is influencing me,

(53:53):
and I'm thinking, this is what music is. So there's
this growing thing you have to go through. Comedians do it.
Every artist, person that's influenced by a certain thing does it. Well,
you think these are cultural tip posts. These are the
things I'm supposed to say, These are the things I'm
supposed to do. That is what happens, What we are
trying to retro fit is. But if you're not from

(54:14):
this culture, you should be able to understand that you
shouldn't talk like this. And I'm like, those people have
the least amount of understanding. They shouldn't be able to
talk like this, right, Like, that's why you got people
in Korea. They don't even really recognize the culture of
the gang shit that thrown up because they just they
literally are ignorant to the signifiers and what that really means.
Over here. They're not living that life, but our culture

(54:36):
is so powerful they've been influenced by that. So that's
where that comes from. People are asking about the beat.
I don't know where I got that beat from. I
think maybe Duncan made it. There was a guy Duncan
Hans Cake mixed productions, so maybe he made it. There's
a lot of beats we got from the internet that
he ended up mixing and mastering. My brother made some

(55:01):
of the beats now he makes beats almost exclusively. And
some of the stuff I got off the internet with friends,
like off of forms and stuff, and they would send
it to me and I would uh mix a master
on my own on my computer and get it as
close as I could the good and put it out.
It was very fun to do. But anyway, y'all are

(55:23):
missing the fucking point. It's not about me saying. I
didn't say I couldn't rap. I didn't say it wasn't
fun or not good. It was just the real point
is it's embarrassing to find your voice, and we hold
this shit against people. So Aquafina, who's immittedly did not
grow up around or in black culture, has said she
would go to her room, she would listen to hip hop,

(55:44):
and she would fucking try to make these funny but
cool raps. She's finding her voice, she's finding her comedic voice,
she's finding her artistic voice. The world punt. We are
so punitive now. We wanted to like pun it her
for having a success and stuff, and she did something

(56:04):
that we asked her to do, and then we got
mad at her for doing it, which is everyone told
her to stop it, said, leave our fucking culture alone.
We're not a costume. Blah blah.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
She stopped, Yes, she did.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
She said, all right, fuck it, all right, cool, I'm
I'm talking like this now. This is how I grew up.
I'm done. I won't even uh try that shit, and
people are mad at her over that shit.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
You can't have it both ways. You can't get mad.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Tell them stopped and they stop, and you've been like, bitch,
why you stop because you told me to?

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yes, So it is what it is, Like I said,
it's just h I didn't and I don't want to
go on a whole tangent about it, but it's just,
you know, I don't feel strongly one way or other.
I just think it's part of the process, and I
don't hold people in that moment. I'm more I would
be more upset if I caught Aquaphena saying something bad
about black people, I agree, then we got a fucking problem.

(56:52):
I've never even with people coming at her neck. I've
never seen her say anything bad about black people. I've
seen her try to make a funny rap line, for instance,
Serena Williams it once again, it's not about black people.
It's like, I wouldn't need her because we have plenty
of examples of like an Eggy Azalea, a Miley Cyrus,
where someone used our music to come up and then

(57:16):
they said something about our culture and our people, and
that's that to me, is unforgivable.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah, that's when you go out. They next, yes.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
And I and so I'll never stand for that ship.
But if you just some Korean motherfucker that just saw
the chronic and went that's so dope, I want to
contribute to that. I'm not mad at you.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I don't give a fun And also, like I said,
I know everybody different, but I'm gonna tell you right now,
I absolutely loved when uh, what was it, BBL drizzy
came out and people rapping in Spanish, French like like
like like like a lot of niggas have a tendency
to forget when they was rapping in these other languages.

(57:55):
We was playing that shit. Couldn't understand a motherfucker word
they was saying. But I loved it. So you know,
we love when they mimic our stuff. We act like
we don't love it, but but we But truth be told,
a lot of times were actually flattered by it. But
at the end of the day, we gotta beat beaty controllers.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
We can't control the shit. Like I said, I want that.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
I was having a motherfucking ball when I was hearing
them other languages for me, like I was like, hey,
just go Like for me, when I hear people rapping
and they the beats and things like that, I am
always here for it.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Like I don't think that.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
It's always a bad thing unless they come in and
just talk shit about our culture.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
If not, I don't have a problem with it.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
So yeah, all right. The next comment is also from
Kylie Bruh says, another thing about vibes. Trump goes on
shitty ass shows on platforms that kiss his ass over compliment,
go out of their way to make him comfortable. Almost
everywhere she went with people who questioned her intelligence, veriability
and blackness. Fuck all that bitch made ass dudes who
talked shit about her locking up black men and all

(58:59):
the other bullsh She has ten times more balls than Trump. Yeah, man.
And and it's funny because now that she is lost,
we're getting that, we're getting this revisionist history, and we're
also getting people reckoning with stuff. And I mean, we're

(59:22):
gonna get into it. Hey do you have in a second,
But we're getting people saying stuff like, why don't we
have a left wing Joe Rogan, Why don't we have
left wing voices that that are that can affect an election,
that are as big as these other platforms. And the
reason you don't have that, and the main reason, honestly

(59:42):
it's still white supremacy is you're not gonna get by it.
You know. White people get a lot more rope to
say and and and do shit and still keep an audience.
There's there's a reason there's a limit to how much
of an audience me and Karen can get because we
talk too real. If we if we was up here,
you know, then like the black dude that works at
the New York Times, and that the real problem in

(01:00:04):
this election was the Democrats didn't have a problem ry.
But that's the reason he's the black dude at the
New York Times because he talked like that. Right, he
can't come into work and be like, it's y'all motherfuckers,
y'all in this room with me are part of the
fucking problem. He can't say that he won't have a
job tomorrow. I can say that, but I won't have
the audience that he has. So there's a trade off
to this. White people don't have to make that compromise.

(01:00:25):
So like Joe Rogan can be the biggest podcast in
the world and traffic in white supremacy and support that,
and left leaning listeners don't tolerate too much bullshit. So like,
if you get too off the beaten path, if you
start piling around with some problematic shit, they like, they'll

(01:00:48):
dip out. They'll be like, nah, if you start trafficking
and misinformation and non facts, they'll leave. These white folks
want to hear that shit in a lot of cases,
so they listen to those guys. Those that don't listen
to them, they tolerate those guys, you know what I mean,
people that I think are otherwise pretty righteous people. But
they can't cut off Joe Rogan. They can't say to themselves, Yo,
this dude's a bad guy that really affects our elections

(01:01:11):
and really affects our society and our culture. And he's
very irresponsible with it, and whenever he's caught on it,
he just goes, I'm as a comedian, and they don't
see it as like the threat that it is. Yes,
and so now they're like, how do we create a
left wing win and stuff? But part of how you
have a space like what he has, it's a very
uncritical space. Like he'll let you sit in front of

(01:01:33):
him and say whatever the fuck you want to say,
and he'll just go wow. Really, so you think he'll
do that. There's no version of that that's getting past
Democrats and left wing people or progressive people. They're not
gonna hear that, you know, So you can't recreate something
like that. Kamala Harris will never sit down on a

(01:01:55):
truly left wing platform and just be like, I'm on
it for president. And then the guys at Pod Save
the USA will go, okay, so really, like you keep
a tax credit for the okay, all right? You know,
like nah, and they're not And if and if she
says something crazy, they're gonna challenge it. If she said

(01:02:16):
something reasonable, they're gonna challenge it, Like that's just what
the It's a cold, totally different cultural dynamic over there.
So yeah, they'll they'll never be any of that. But
I share your rage and that a lot of people
helped this out by spreading misinformation.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
They did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
CBJ Morgan says, thanks for the real talk and last
I listened to the show while I waited in line
to vote. I'm glad we're ever to keep you company.
Christal says that that pay bitches and Trump dry pussy
up Karen just be killing me. Keep them coming. She
is hilarious. I agree, all right, let me play a
beat so we can get paid. Uh, because we ain't

(01:02:54):
Joe Rogan. Okay, we don't have any sponsors. I can't
tell you this is from Alpha Brain or whatever the fuck,
So it's probably from whoever pays for commercials for this
and uh, that's based on your algorithm and whatever platform
you're listening to. All Right, the next episode is three

(01:03:41):
thousand and six Love Will Humble You.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
I'm still so disappointed in myself because I forgot to
hear record on the video and oh my god, this.
I don't say this is about show that often, but
I mean I believe it. I just don't say it.
This is so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
It was fun I actually had to go back and
listen to this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
On the he had such a good time. I had,
like the whole thing about Judge. Joe Math is fucking anyway.
So three comments here says libertarianism is a fairy tale
for people who need an excuse to do nothing or greed. One.
A company only interested in short time games doesn't care

(01:04:21):
if it if it's image goes to ship in a
year they made their money and are out of here. Two,
what about people who died from the product while the
company was still learning with the libertarian except it if
he was an educational victim or his family. Right, It's
just such an abstract, dumb ass white people concept. Like, yeah,
so much of so much of economic theory and political

(01:04:43):
theory is just abstract concept that does not take into account.
People are people. And I think this week people got
slapped in the face of that. And it's interesting seeing
what people took as their reaction in response to it,
because it's like, so it's so simple, but damn y'all
trying to make it. Y'all really trying to move this

(01:05:04):
shell game in front of my face while I go,
I guess it's not the racism and the misogyny I
thought it was. It must be something else. No, motherfucker,
I'm gonna be on your ass dog for the rest
of my life. You're fucked up, Ye're knocked up.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
I don't want to hear any thing else.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
We finally got the cultural experiment that left nothing else
on the table. It left no excuse. We finally it
finally fucking happened when no other excuse was available for y'all,
and you're trying to trot the same lives. I won't
let you have it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
I won't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
I won't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
And my thing is, if we're not gonna have a
true conversation, don't even talk to me about it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Yeah, we will not have it. Oh oh that just
reminded me. I don't think I was according this one.
Ah shit.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
But then it didn't matter if I went out screening not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Oh my god, I just had. I just started recording it.
Oh my god, you want to start to show over?
What the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
So I need to remember to look down the corner.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
If I don't see the I rece i'll stop it, like, ay, right, record,
you hit the record button too, right?

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
I guess I can. Okay, okay, So.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
By between one of us, we're gonna figure it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yees, Between one of us, we're gonna be consistent.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
It's nothing funny what said until now? So it's fine,
it's good. Uh, they'll use these clips later, all right. Anyway,
I'll try to remember that when I send them the ship.
So from here on out, let's be funny.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Uh, let's put out the jokes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Three. If you open a restaurant somewhere in a racist
place and called it restaurant for whites only. I can
see it being successful and evil, maybe even attract terror
from other places. It wouldn't be big enough to build
a franchise, I hope, but could do enough damage by
existing in one place only. So No, I don't believe
in liberal liberalism libertarianism. The closest I come to it

(01:06:52):
is about drugs. But I see that maybe I, as
a big farmer person with the liability to understand how
drug really works and the body could judge the risk
reward ratio, but the eighteen year old high school student couldn't.
Is my liberty worth his harm? Probably not. I'm still
planning on doing psychedelic drugs when I retired. This is
my goal for my older self. You need something to
look forward to now. It's not the time DJ nine

(01:07:13):
thirty six is. I always thought it was America's most
wanted guy voice. Oh that dude, that that that condescended
black AI guy. Leaylow says, I hadn't read that particular
AI voice is condescending, but whenever I hear it, there's
a ninety nine point nine percent chance whatever it's saying,
it's some bullshit yes, I've tested this hypothesis out and
I've been challenging other people to do it too. That

(01:07:34):
nigga sounds condescending, and that's part of the reason that
it be saying bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Yes it, but like you're going to get healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Here's some juices and berries, and if you take these
juices and berries, you too, you might.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
What They also write stuff in that voice that makes
it sound worse, like the with that commercial I played
y'all where he's talking about erecti dysfunction pills. There's lines
in there that are those lines in there where it's
just like, so they don't want you to get this
type of drug, So you just go to this website

(01:08:06):
and you click it. It's only forty five cents up here,
and boom there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
I'm like, who talks like that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Why is boom there you go in the fucking commercial?
That's not You wouldn't put that in commercial for serious anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
A right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
The poll is AI voices and commercials. I like them,
I find them annoying ninety six percent. The audist thinks
they're annoying, so I think I'm on the something four
percent says they like them. Comments on YouTube JV City
says hard Emoji and swapping Pee says, I don't know
that black voice sounded a bit like Michael Eric Dyson
and me. It could be cousins with Michael. They didn't

(01:08:46):
sound enough. It would have been using a lot bigger
vocabulation's words to sell us that. But I do hear
the little bit of that inflection. But that is what
I'm talking about. That inflection that he has, That smart
brother inflection was like I did not sleep with that
white woman. But he just slowed it down to be
like generic agro is not for the I can see it.

(01:09:08):
You're not You're not far off. You want something, uh
three thousand and seven Election night anxiety. We got seven
comments on This is when we decided to go live.
We knew everybody was dealing with their own levels of anxiety,
because once you do, all your shit is out of
your hands.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
Chat.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
I did my part of the group project.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
And it was like a lot of y'all probably sitting
around watching uh TV and filling scrolling your doom scrolling
and feeling uh impotent. In this moment, It's like, come
hang out with us for a couple of hours, maybe
get your mind off of it. There's nothing we can
do but wait together.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
True, and then we can do but wait.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Voting night in America feels like being in the hospital
waiting room for a loved one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
It does.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
You were like, Lord, is the is the patri you're
gonna survivor? U is that gonna die? And also, uh,
I think for me personally, particularly being down south and
particularly being in the state. I'm gonna tell y'all right now,
two and a half year because they started like two
years prior to election day is when they start. That's

(01:10:10):
when people start announcing and running. They start chopping people
down and shit like that, and you narrow it down.
So about two years to a year, particularly down here,
we are fucking bombarded. By the time election time come.
I am fucking exhausted, y'all. Like, I'm so got theamn tired,
Like I'm always tired. After the election, I'm like I've
had it. I'm tired of got them commercials. I like,

(01:10:31):
I'm like I need a break, regardless of what the
outcome is. I always feel, like you said, it's like
waiting for a low one to see h if the
doctor gonna come out of the office and tell you
you survived or either the patient died and you're like, well,
I'm tired of waiting two years to learn.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
And there's nothing you can do about it. Just this
is just tired. It's just hard. Dexter says, good day, family.
I'm not a frequent writer, but a diligent listener. I
appreciate your comments regarding anxiety, as I was unable to
sleep last night, running wast worst case scenarios in my head.
Listen to my heart pounding in my chest. Your words
gave me solace. Nothing has changed since yesterday. I can't
speak to the future as that as it happened yet,

(01:11:09):
so I'm trying not to energize anxiety. I'm not happy,
but I'm not blaming the Dems for this one either,
as you predicted rod Out from the word work come
to roaches, blaming everyone but themselves if they didn't vote
for them, or the minorities, or commaly if they did.
This country consistently shows us what it is and this
is just another example of the misogyny, the bigotry, and
the hate that it thrives on. My parents are older,

(01:11:29):
so I won't leave no idea where it would be
safe from here anyway. My wife deals with anxiety, so
she's completely tapped out, no idea what's coming. But I
refuse to allow us to change me. I'll slink back
to the shadows now, continue to listen. Y'all. Was amazing podcast.
You're a bright spot through all this darkness. Thank you
both for what you do. Apologies for the long message.
PS Honey, Crisp apples are still better than Granny Smith's. Lol.

(01:11:50):
Love y'all, why would you end it with such This
is a time when we we need unity, need to
come together. Fro you dividing? Why would you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Apple divide? And I see you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
We didn't need to know anything about your apple prefaces. Okay,
those apples, both of those apples are great, but I
just like grand the spills better. I'm sorry they didn't
mean let you down, but yeah, man, I think everyone
needs to take tom you know how a long to
take because I really feel like it's a slap in
the face. I really feel like, if you're however you're

(01:12:26):
feeling coming out of this, uh, I think you should
prioritize that. I ain't really judging nobody right now. Everybody's
spending a lot of time fighting each other and judging.
I really ain't got no judgments on anybody, uh as
far as their emotional reaction to it, I think I
am judging the reasoning. So if you don't want to

(01:12:49):
say what we just witnessed and what I believe it was,
I'm judging that. If you're gonna tell me you're gonna
piss in my face and tell me it's raining, or
I'm judging. But if you just want to be like dog,
I A'm dejected. You know, some people are using comedy
and humor, some people are using rage, some people are venting,
some people are sad, some people are depressed, some people

(01:13:09):
are leaving Twitter, some people are you know, they're like,
I'm done with activism. I'm done with trying to save
these white people from themselves, and I'm done with politics.
I don't I'm not policing anyone's reactions right now because
people need a fucking time out, need a break. I
don't think anybody wants to hear that fucking Rod Rod
Sis boom By coach speak right now. And we'll get

(01:13:31):
to that in a second, because I think somebody left
a comment like that on our YouTube. Might Nigga don't
talk to me, but it's I understand everybody's reaction. People
need some time, and I don't know what the next
thing is, what solutions are gonna present themselves with, survival
tactics are gonna happen for folks. So I'm not gonna

(01:13:53):
I'm not prescribing anything to anybody. It's just it is
what it is. It fucking kind of sucks, and it's
okay to feel that way.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Yes it is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
It's okay to sit in those feelings. It's okay to
allow yourself to feel these emotions because for some people,
these have been bottled up emotions that they have not
been able to express for a very very long time,
particularly people that have had to go into office and
be on our coworkers just deal with the just silly
shitting person. Having a privilege of working from home, I
didn't really have to deal with that part of it,

(01:14:22):
you know type of thing. And so you know, for
a lot of people, they go, hey, I need some time,
because even for me, I actually need some time. I'm
sitting in my thoughts more often and digesting things and
feeling things and trying to determine what I would like
to do next.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
How I would like to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Handle things and what I what effort I'm willing and
not willing to do next time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Yeah, this wasn't supposed to happen this way. America lied
and let us down. I mean, the best case scenario
is actually one where it's conspiratorial eyes. But the best
case scenario would be she actually won. Some sort of
voting manipulation happened that made it seem that she lost.

(01:15:09):
This election actually technically is stolen somehow, and they're working
to get to the bottom of it, and we just
don't know, Like that's the best case and it's far
fetching conspiratorial. Don't don't don't think that I'm saying that's
what happened, But that's the best case scenario because white
white right. We watched record turnout, record sign ups, We

(01:15:30):
watched records, small donations, not just corporate donations, small individual donations.
We watched all those zoom calls. We watched the UH,
we watched the rallies that were unprecedented in attendance. We
watched the DNC. We everything told us that this was
going to be a win and should have been a win.

(01:15:53):
Then you got people walking in the booth, and if
the results are to believe, we believed, which I don't
have any I don't believe in the results. But if
the results are to be believed, what I then have
to believe is that white people and Latino men, these
are the results walked in that booth, voted Democrat down ballot,

(01:16:19):
but could not bring themselves to vote for a black woman.
Those are the results I'm seeing in all these states now.
Honest to God, I'd love for us to find out
the shit was stolen. I'd love that because I would
actually have a little more faith in my country and
my fellow citizens. I'd be like, maybe you know I
was wrong about y'all, y'all cat Bullet doing the right shit,

(01:16:42):
even when it's a black woman. Y'all were able to
stomach and suck that that poison that you've been that massage,
no whir y'all have been in doctrinating. Y'all was able
to suck that down. And I know y'all ain't like it,
but y'all was able to go. She the only one
with a plan and this motherfuckers, why the skype do that?

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
You always turn it off and turned it right back
on on it didn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
What the fuck was that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
This guy? What the fuck was that?

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
I literally I watched it be do not disturb.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Earlier anyway, this guy was like, bitch, you ain't gonna hang.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Up on me. I hang up on you. I literally
I turned it on early to avoid this. Anyway, God,
sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
I'm sorry about the personal calls.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
But anyway, my point being, fuck I lost some But yes,
my point being like I wish, I want to believe
that it wouldn't. It would warm my heart if I mean,
you got now till January, right, it will warm my
heart if at some point that was like, actually, guys,
low key, we've been investigating and the machines was Tampa

(01:17:48):
waiting Russia. I hacked the election. God, I would love that.
Oh h y'all don't understand the relief on my heart
that would be because I would really I would cry
if I found that out, because I said, fuck, at
least it was stolen.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
That's how fucked up shit is in America.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I could go at least at least they stole it, right,
like people knew the right thing, not enough, but but
it happened. People knew the right thing and it stole it.
What I have to believe right now is something way
more insidious. In my state, Democrats went almost every single
seat except Tricia Cocktam's seat, and there were like two judges.

(01:18:25):
They voted Democrat in every other race except for Kamla Harris.
So what am I to believed? None of the other
people was black women that won. They seis I have
to believe they said, I want freedom, I want good government,
I want competence unless it's from that black woman, then

(01:18:46):
I don't want it. I want Donald Trump. And so
that is damning, and that is the soul of American
You cannot undo that what I saw and learned. But yeah,
so him Dell says, I didn't watch anything elections later
after I voted early Tuesday morning, I didn't know until
around nine am on the six about the election results

(01:19:07):
or for president. Sadly, I'm unsurprised that racism, big intry sexism,
and white privilege continue to be on full display for
all the world to continue to see. In the US,
I've watched an experience firsthand this level of deeply entrenched
ignorance be the order of the day for my entire
adult life as a black citizen. In the US. I
heard of people second hand, mind you, who are telling
me they knew people that as leaders of eleven five
twenty twenty four were on the fence about who to

(01:19:29):
vote for. And I immediately felt rage. You're not on
the fence. You are dumb. And I continue to want
nothing to do with these people. Too many ignorant, uninformed,
irresponsible people are allowed to engage in this voting process.
I'm sick of it. I lay this upcoming presidencyd to
feed the white people exclusively and unequivocally as the majority
in the US. Yeah, yeah, and honestly and marginalized people

(01:19:52):
that want to be white. They helped this shit alone.
People that think it's attainable, that's about to find out
that it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
At you, just like they look at the rest of us.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Do when to find out? Phase, y'all don't fucked around.
Shoe Boody says, what unhealthy coping mechanism are we doing today?
Online shopping, abusing drugs and alcohol or stress cleaning? Perhaps
all three sprinkled a little bit of holiday decorating Christmas
tree we did, and I was like, I'm likeing this
bitch up, and I do have drugs in here. So yeah,

(01:20:24):
that's a good idea. Maybe I should do some drugs.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Saying.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
I don't even know how to say it, but like
it was devastating and I was definitely affected and sad
in the next day. But I meant what I said
on that podcast, y'all, my soul is free. I did
everything I was supposed to do, and many of y'all
listening to the sound of my voice, y'all did everything
y'all was supposed to do. I would be damned if

(01:20:50):
I'm fitting to carry around any of the way of
this with me. I told y'all, motherfuckers, exactly how it
would go, and I told y'all, motherfuckers, is exactly what
we should do. I saw someone sent me a video today.
I didn't even hit play on it. I didn't turn
the volume up, I hit play. I just slipped at
the words. Someone sent me a video today and it

(01:21:11):
was people that were in the.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
I forget what that party is called, like undeclared un
It was like people created this movement wherever it was like,
we will not say we're voting for Kamala Harris and
his cousin Palestine. I forget what it's called, like the
unsuthing movement, and.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
She was committed, uncommitted, Thank you baby, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
He she lost. So now they're making videos and TikTok's crying.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Because they thought she was gonna win, just like with
Hillary Clinton. They thought the perk and and and see
that's just like not to get off top. But that's it.
That's the bullshit that pissed me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Off when motherfuckers was playing playing, playing right in my
goddamn because so many people earned my vote. Now this
other bullshit, because y'all thoughts she was gonna goddamn win,
so you didn't take the bullshit seriously. So now you
houlled out about Palestine and shit like that, for the
fact that she allowed y'all to protest in her mother
fucking face and didn't say, get the hell out of here.
For the fact that she heard y'all out matters that

(01:22:20):
bullshit matters, like that shit matters all the other bullshit.
Y'all bowed up, and she was basically telling y'all Trump
gonna make it worse, and y'all like, no, bitch, we
gonna hold you accountable.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
I'm gonna tell you right now, you know what went away,
Jill Stein. You know what went away? Undecided voters. You
know what went away? The motherfucking box. You know what
went away? Palestine? You know what went away?

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
All the bullshit did y'all claim mattered? Did y'all claimed mattered?
All that bullshit went away? Because it didn't matter. It
was a delay tactic. It was a distraction to keep
you away from from what the real point of.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
This election was.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Everybody's god damn freedom and right was on the motherfucking line,
your right to stand in front of her face and say, bitch,
I don't like you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Fuck you. That right right there is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Yeah, Cornell, Cornell West is gone. He had.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Where's he at? Where's ice cubit?

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Where are these motherfuckers to be coming out of the
windworks every fucking four years?

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
That's the ship that pissed me off, and also for
me too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
I also blamed the media for the fact that y'all
had time to write all these bullshit ass articles about
Biden and all these bullshit ass articles about about the
Democrats and all this shit, and didn't do the same
thing to the other side when they was fucking up.
For the fact that y'all didn't talk about how these
motherfuckers was was was not getting money down ballot and
ship like that. Y'all didn't cover that bullshit. And the

(01:23:47):
thing is, y'all gonna lose y'all rights. Y'all not gonna
be able to cover shit like y'all supposed to. Y'all
not gonna be able to do this. Did this journalistic
investigation like you're supposed to. Are y'all gonna be out
on the street, y'all gonna get y'all asses whooped too.
Now they're gonna that's y'all motherfuckers now too. But y'all
didn't educate the public. Y'all didn't tell people what was
on the line. Y'all fucked around, and now y'all rights
are gonna be taken away. So I don't want to

(01:24:08):
hear anything from the media when the media come and say,
we can't talk about this, we can't talk about that,
we're scared for our lives.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Y'all cover shit about other countries.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
I listen to y'all motherfuckers when y'all talk about these
other countries, how journalists are, how journalists are getting arrested,
how jentlemists are getting killed, in the street, how the
dictators tell them what they can and cannot say, how
they can't cover shit, how they're scared, how they're sneaking
information out of that country so that people.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Can find out what's going to go on there. That
shit is getting ready to happen here.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
And I put it after y'all motherfucking feet, because y'all
jobs are to educate the public. Your job is to
tell people and drum and drum and drum and tell
people this is not a motherfucking game. Your job is
not to tell me how Biden a cough one time
and it's the motherfucking end of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
That's not your job.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Y'all. Job is not to give me false news that
black men are gonna vote for Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
That shit is like, yes, that's motherfucking lies.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
That's the shit that's pressing me off about this motherfucking election.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
That's what's making me mad. That's what the an On
top of that, I bring the populist too. I blame
the populist for believe in a box. I blame the
propertist for that. I blame the populist a.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Big way because the thing is, we went through this
one time.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
I remember remember, remember.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Y'all, don't motherfucker thought it was a gang?

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
I didn't, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
And then and what's crazy is like they spend all
this time being like, we have to hold Democrats account
we have to hold Kamala Harris accountable, we have to
what do we what's the plan to hold her accountable?
What is the plan to hold Trump accountable? What's the plan?
He's now the leader of the free world, this is

(01:25:47):
country now. He got the he definitely got the Senate.
He probably has a house, I know. I don't know
if they've ever finalized those talies yet, but if he
has the House, the Senate, Scotus and obviously the President office,
what is the plan exactly how it's gonna save all

(01:26:07):
the causes you told me we were supposed to be
concerned about to the point of making Kamla lose. I
would love to know what the plan is now, because
what I don't give a fuck about, and that I
don't want to see your tears. I don't care. You
have made me cold. I care. I care, And I'm

(01:26:29):
not saying this lightly and I'm not saying this is
a joke. I'm not doing this performative I've seen people
making jokes. I'm gonna call ice on y'all. I'm not
I'm not even making those type of jokes, So I
think that's callous and I'm not that kind of person.
I wouldn't do that. I'm not gonna say anything in
anger that I wouldn't say seriously. But if you think

(01:26:49):
I'm about to be reading articles about I voted for
Trump and now I can't get an abortion and I
might die in my state, If you think I'm gonna
read that shit and do anything more than keep scrolling,
don't know what to tell you. Dog, you wanted this,
if you if you wanted this, and if you didn't
want it, you wouldn't listen to those of us that

(01:27:10):
told you that's not gonna get you what you want?

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
You know those emails we got months ago? You know,
I still remember that sister from Africa that wrote us like,
how can you do da? Da? Da?

Speaker 6 (01:27:22):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
You know how don't you? I don't want I didn't
want you to find out this way. I didn't want
you to have to see in real time the ugliness
of America. But it played out exactly as I told
you it would. I forget the name of the episode.
But I remember that sister wrote in it was like,
you know, I'm having trouble struggling with the morality, and
I told you America is an empire, is a heist.

(01:27:44):
It is an imperialistic entity. All we get to really
do is control who's at the helm and try to
mitigate harm. You are about to see unmitigated harm, right.
And And the part that no one wanted you to
to have to really explain, the part you couldn't maybe understand,

(01:28:05):
is that it was a privilege and a luxury for
a lot of Americans to care about issues that did
not affect them directly. Under Joe Biden, it was a privilege.
There were people who were more concerned about another country
because they were eating well, they were making wages. Inflation

(01:28:28):
was up, but wages were up. You know, gas came
back down. Like there were people who didn't you didn't
even know it was a privilege. They didn't even know
it as a privilege.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
So it's such a given under democratic presidents that people's
needs are being met, that the government is doing its job,
that people start to want more. There's nothing wrong with
want more. We should want more. But then we take
it for granted. What is about to happen is that
those people that were making tiktoks about countries they don't

(01:29:02):
live in are about to be making tiktoks about their country.
They're about to be talking about their causes. You gonna
have people that's like, I'm trains and I live in America. Yeah,
I feel bad for the genocide in Palestine, but niggas
a genocide on me. Now you're gonna have black people
that was black activist that was talking to these issues

(01:29:23):
that are about to either quit because a lot of
them are just going away because the white people money
ain't coming in. They're either gonna quit or they're just
gonna start talking about just black issues in America. Like I,
Donald Trump took away this thing. The public education system
is gone. This is what is about to happen. You're
about to see what like you thought it was selfish before,

(01:29:45):
you're actually about to see survival. And if that was
your goal to be like y'all should have to be
put in a place of survival too, then you got
what you want it and now your thing is off
the table for everybody. No one's going to give a
fuck about this it's gonna go out fashion. And that
is before you get to the quite obvious delusion, which

(01:30:06):
is a lot of shit was was psyops by Russian
and online campaigns, and the fact that there are people
that lost thousands of followers on social media yesterday because
someone clicked the switch off and said a mission accomplished,
who got the election? You could turn off the fucking
Ukrainian bot that says, hey, they giving money to Ukraine.

(01:30:29):
But how come they ain't give money? It's not no
water in Flint or whatever the fuck the robot keep
telling y'all that you gonna notice them. Responses are gone,
the amount of like trash comments that are no longer
on people's tweets and replying to everybody that shit is
real and it happened, and a lot of people got
taken by it. And it's sad because those of us

(01:30:50):
who saw through it, those of us who talked about it,
got demonized. We got we were told we didn't really care,
we were told we were the problem. Well now you're
fucking crying and I don't give a fuck, and I
don't and there's nothing I can do for you. I
was doing what I could do for you so Kamala
Harrison is accountable. Now, guess what, Kamla Harrison is a rich,

(01:31:12):
attractive lady who is who's gonna go on to be
fine for the rest of her life. What oh did
she learn? No, bitch, we're learning. We're all learning together.
She can go, she can go move out of the
country tomorrow and be like, I fuck these people. I'm
in France. I tried to help them. I had a
bunch of plans. I tried to signal that I was

(01:31:32):
gonna be a better president for future issues. They didn't
they didn't want that. That's not good enough. Cool didn't
get some Trump. You know, don't call me in four
years to save you. That's fucked up. Like, that's on y'all, niggas.
I you have made me cold. You have made us cold,
and that's that's fucked up. You took away the thing

(01:31:53):
that was that was here to save you. You know,
you're the people on the roof. That's like, God, God
save me. And here's come a boat. I know, boat,
God come down to save me. Here's a helicopter. I
need God to come save me. Nigga. I sent the helicopters,
I sent the boat. What the fuck that's us now
we're stuck on the roof. Agreed.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
And also, I think for me and like you said,
people are going to find out how much black people,
particularly black women, how much they did for the Democratic Party.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
They're getting ready to find out that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
When I say the backbone, I mean the backbone, because
the Democratic the women of the Democratic Party, they're doing
the minutia shit that nobody really wants to do.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
A lot of black women in.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Their counties and cities and states all across the country,
they do a lot of grunt work. And when I
mean grunt work, they're the ones that's just knocking door
to door in the ghettos and in black impoverished area.
They're the ones that's resisting new voters. They're the ones
that's going out here holding classes in the communities and
educating people. They're the ones that telling people about the laws.

(01:33:02):
They're the ones that taking people's to the polls. They're
like like like like they're there. They are literally doing
the work that that that that even people in their
own party won't give them the money nor the funding
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
They'll be like, y'all do it, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
All types of organizations that are getting ready to disappear
and no longer exist, that educate people, then help people,
not only black people, just pour people, but you know,
most people that I pour in this country are white.
Show you the truth, you know, but everybody benefits from
the work that they do.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Honestly, though, like I said this that, you know, the
day we talked about Biden stepping down, and I mean,
I was gonna say, I hate to keep doing this,
but honestly, just today's the day to do it, right.
I don't want to have to do this for the
rest of my life, but I will if I have to.
But but the point being I said on that show

(01:33:56):
that if Biden steps down, it needs to be Kamala Harris.
And if it's Kamala Harris, white people better not let
us down because this moment, to me, is irredeemable and
it is unforgiven, and it broke the party. They don't

(01:34:17):
even know they broke it. They're still writing articles like
it's a normal election that they lost. They don't know
because they're not black, and the black people they've hired
to tell them Black opinions are just a fucking mirror.
They're just telling these white people what the fuck they
want to hear so they keep their job. They don't
have not one real nigga in that building. That'll do
you like, Oh you think you think we just gonna

(01:34:40):
do it again? You think so you just think, Oh, no,
what we need to do. We get some target points
and we get a coalition together and we just build it. Bitch,
No one's no one's.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
Coming, nobody's coming. Y'all got it?

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Like all you did was spinning the face. The betrayal
that this is to the backbone of the Democratic Party
is un forgivable. The damage is irreparable. Yeah, because you've
told black women directly to their face, it's not because
of who you are, not you, not you. They don't
even understand saying to someone like Kamala Harris, we don't

(01:35:15):
know you. Saying that to her when what you do
know about Trump made you pick Trump or made you
okay with Trump. That's more insulting than saying the reason
we're not picking you is because we personally do know
you and we don't like the things you stand for.
That would be better. It would be better if they said,
you know what the real problem was, it's Kamala Harris

(01:35:36):
as a person. I don't like. She said this, this
and this and those are things I don't like. They
never had a thing, they just like, Look, I don't
know her. She's only she's telling me she's gonna help
me buy a house. But I don't know her. I
don't know her. First of all, you do, fuck you
know her as much as any of these other motherfuckers.
So that's a goddamn lie calling you bullshit. But the
second thing is you're definitely knew Trump. You're definitely knew Trump.

(01:35:59):
It's it's what you So the thing you did know
about her for many of you is she's a black woman.
She's a black and Indian woman. If it was real,
deep into it, and that was enough for you to
not pull that lever. So yeah, it's unforgivable. You can't
you can't take it back, you can't fix it. And
you're gonna see it when the phone calls ain't flooding,

(01:36:20):
when the lines ain't donating, when the motherfuckers ain't showing
up at the meeting. If this is this is the
other problem they have, If this is a losing campaign,
If what you're telling me is what I watched and
what I witnessed with Kamala Harris was a losing Democratic
presidential candidate. You can't convince me that any of these
people can be winners because I saw her rallies, I

(01:36:42):
saw the donations I saw I saw the new registration
sign up, I saw voter turnout in the early voting
being record levels. How can anyone feel that that's safe again?
You went too far, meaning that whatever the next candidate
you're telling me, like, no, we gotta get behind Gretchen

(01:37:03):
Whitmer and Gavin Newsom. What's gonna convince me they can win?
Or what they got? Record donations? Kamla had record donations,
Oh they had. Look at the turnout at their rallies.
Kamla had turned out at her rallies. Well, look at
the DNC. It went off crazy. Everybody loved it. Everybody
loved Kama at the DNC. Well, look at the celebrities
as a partner, everybody celebrities supporting. Nothing you will ever
do for the rest of life will convince me that

(01:37:24):
y'all can win. So you have lost something that is
stronger than anything. The only thing that will make Democrats
win in America is a Trump presidency, because that's when
y'all decide to get off your asses whenever shit gets
bad because you got what you wanted, you chase the
car and then don't have nothing to do with us.

(01:37:47):
You chase the car, you find what the fuck you want?
You like, Oh shit, the car hit me in the teeth.
I gotta fix this. I guess I'm gonna vote Democrats. Now,
that's what y'all do Trump George W. Bush twice, Ronald
Reagan twice. This is what the fuck y'all do. Y'all
do this, y'all had to go Ronald Reagan twice to
George W. Bush thousand points of like fucked up taxes,

(01:38:08):
made shit, terrible, drugs all on the street, and then
y'all like, I guess we'll get this to a Democrat.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
That's what y'all do.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
So it really ain't got shit to do with us.
We don't make up that percentage of the elector anyway,
when we was doing a lot more to motherfucking work
than y'all motherfuckers do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Yeah, they took it for granted, like and also that
you know what's getting ready to happen. What's getting ready
to happen is several things is getting to happen is
a lot of black people are like, I ain't doing
the bare minimum, and you know what the bare minimum
is voting. I'm not doing no phone banks, I'm not

(01:38:42):
doing no emailing. I'm not going to the door like
they're getting ready to be like they'll be like, damn,
you've been doing this for twenty five years of Gertrude
That and Gotr're gonna be like, yeah, now like what
you're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
I'm gonna vote. You're gonna give me time of money. No,
don't call me for shit, don't call me. And the
money that I'm donating going to black folk them the
people I know that give a fuck about me, that
that that actually affect my community. So the money's gone,
the time is gone. Fuck you niggas. What the fuck
y'all want us to do?

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Dog?

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
We told you it's It reminds me of that clip
Sneika Martin green uh uh beautiful Lady in Star Trek
Discovery as I think Michael I forget her last Michael
bernhal uh that when she's in the first season and

(01:39:36):
the ship is fucked up and she's yet she and
they and the and the crew don't understand, and they're
fucking up and she's like, I'm trying to save you.
That is what this election was like. It was Kamala
Harrison Michael Burnhal saying, I'm trying to save you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
Y'all fucked this off.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Y'all fucked this off, like Joe Biden having to step
down all this shit, like you just needed a person
to step in and try to fucking save you from yourselves,
and you don't want to be saved, can't save them,
so you just gotta sit back and be like, all right,
so we back to saving just us, like we saving
ourselves individually. This is the worst case scenario, but it

(01:40:20):
is the case for survival for people. I'm not about
to go through Project twenty twenty five worried about some
niggas that don't live here. I'm not even about to
worry about some people that don't live in this house.
You know what I'm saying. What they clanning to do
with this Project twenty twenty five, Shit, it's not all
gonna affect me. But I'm only looking out for me
and mine and my peoples that is in community with me,

(01:40:43):
people that showed up for themselves and for others. That's
what I'm looking for. I'm not looking out for no motherfucker.
You from some state and you think Donald Trump not
gonna deport or denaturalize you, so you voted for him
because he thinks he just gonna get rid of the
bad brown people. But you brown, and now he's coming
for you. Brother, I don't have time for that. Good
luck with whatever's happening to you, because they got plans

(01:41:06):
for all of us, So I'm gonna have to deal
with the shit they got for me. And now you're
fighting a battle on many fronts. There's no unity, there's
no coalition. And I don't want to hear the rallying
cry three four years from now when y'all come time
and tell me that some white person, because that's what
the fuck is gonna have to be, some white person
is gonna save us with democracy, I don't want to
hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
Yeah, I don't want to hear the two things all
y'all did was show the populace that all these hopes
and dreams, particularly the far far, far far far left.
All y'all show people was that none of that shit
could ever come true.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
And so you know all this we you know, want
to get rid of the cops and all this, you know,
different things that y'all want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
It's not happening because if you want these things to happen,
you want this utopia, you need to put politicians in
place where people don't have things to worry about so
then they could get to your beautiful utopia. If you're
not willing to do that, people are going to go
into survival mode and they're gonna be like, fuck you
and no.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Wild they ass dreams. Let's just keep that real.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
And uh, it's one of these things where you show
people and people can feel how they want to feel
about this. And but but I'm gonna say and I'm
gonna set up my motherfucking chest and there's nothing anybody
can say in or do to change my mind. I
never thought Joe Biden should have stepp down. I don't
give a fuck. I don't give a goddamn fuck. This
man couldn't open to the fucking door. This man is

(01:42:34):
a dumb ass, He's an idiot.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
I don't care. I don't I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Who you're talking about Trump?

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Yeah, yeah, you like like like I like, I don't
care that that door. Yes, yes, yes, this man didn't.
He's a bubbling fucking fool. They were too old man,
two old men at each other from the goddamn beginning.
Biden goes up there has a moment, and everybody fucking panics.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
I get it. I get the panic in y'all, like like,
I'm not saying that you shouldn't have panicked.

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
But at the same time, look at the other motherfucker,
and I am of the belief did it always had
to be a white man? Off?

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
I'm just gonna keep that real. I always believe did
it had to be a white man?

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Off?

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
I always thought anybody else is going to mother fucking
loke k?

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
And I will never get off of that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Yeah, you know what's crazy? They made us feel crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
They really did.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Like they made us we know the soul of this country, right,
they made us, Yes, they made us think we were
fucking crazy to be like y'all won't vote for anybody
but a white man? And they really did that. Like
and it, I mean to a point where I get it,

(01:43:45):
because the thing about a candidate is this belief. And
if white people are telling me we no longer will
believe in Joe Biden. Then I have to assume he
would have lost. I'm not gonna just say coming out
of this let I'm not finna have given them no
faith and be like y'all would have done it. Y'all
would have came through for Joe. No, y'all weren't gonna

(01:44:06):
come through for Joe too, Like I think he would
have lost to Trump this time because they had decided,
fuck it, we're not that scared of Trump no more.
This ain't no Like I said, this wasn't about Kamala.
She ran a great campaign. This ain't about her. So
I have to believe at the end of the day,
it's not really about Joe Biden. It's just y'all got
comfortable and y'all was like, I mean, if we don't

(01:44:30):
get something perfect, we can just go back to Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
Fuck it, right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
So I don't think like I take them at their
word that they were out on Biden. I don't think
that's a manufactured thing. I think we would have went
to the boat and booth a lot less than would
have showed up for Biden than they would have before,
because I don't think they're scared of Trump. I think
many white people are like end of the day, Trump,
for me, ain't ain't really gonna hurt me. What he's saying,

(01:44:55):
he's trying to hurt other people. Now, is he gonna
hurt him? Yah, he gonna hurt them. They just ain't.
But their privilege is not thinking far enough to go. Well,
then it's gonna suck up some shit for me too.
They going. I don't know. He seems mad at these
brown people and trans people and women. None of them
are me, you know, So I'm not I'm not convinced

(01:45:15):
that it's so simple as like, yeah, bottom would have
one period.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
But but.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
I I did say, and we both felt, are y'all
gonna show up for this black woman? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
Baby?

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
And that's my point, and I'm gonna keep it. I'ma okay,
tell y'all how I really feel for me. If Biden
would have lost, I would have felt some form of
a disappointment, don't get me wrong, But at least I
know where it had been a motherfucking white man off

(01:45:50):
and I know more white people would have still voted
for him even though he would have lost.

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
I'm gonna keep it. Your eye would have been satisfied
with that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
What I would say this I don't think there's no
way to say, I don't think you're wrong. I put
it that way. I don't think you're wrong. I'm not
saying I don't know put it this way. I don't
know that he would have won, but he I don't
know he would have lost. I like my assumption is
he probably would have lost just because of how the

(01:46:19):
drain on it, which just kept growing, it just kept growing.
It's like they had decided he was not going to
be running, and that was not a decision that people
were really fighting. Only black people fought that decision, and
they made us feel crazy because they're innate. Belief in

(01:46:40):
their decency as white voters won't allow them to accept
the truth, which is that we chose Joe Biden in
South Carolina in twenty twenty because we knew them. I said,
y'all won't even vote for a white woman, right, the
most accomplished candidate y'all have ever had, which would be
a step forward for white women in America. It would

(01:47:02):
be a representative landslide victory for Democrat, for democracy, and
to say, even America, you gonna have to be a
woman to be president. And y'all said, fuck that bitch.
We don't like that bitch. She mindless of her mama,
of my mama. He said, huh, all right, well, here's
this white man, this old white man who's doddering and
misspeaks all the time, and y'all, y'all just don't really

(01:47:23):
seem to care who ran the middle of the road
centrist campaign. Y'all didn't really seem to give a fuck
about that. Uh, we think y'all will vote for him
over this other white man because y'all love white man
so much. Y'all voted for Trump. All he is is
a white man. He's not good at anything. And y'all went, yeah,
you're damn right. Let's give us some Joe. Highest turnout
of all time, right, So now y'all off Joe. And

(01:47:45):
it becomes okay, Well, the only reasonable choice right now
is with one hundred days out, is a black this
black vice president. She's a black woman. And they made
us feel crazy. They went, rod, of course we're gonna
vote for the black woman. Why wouldn't. I'm a problem
with her. No, we just need to get by enough ticket.
I'm like, you sure, because y'all only really seem to

(01:48:06):
go up for white men. Even when you hate white men, right,
even when you think they're they're terrible, y'all still will
go vote for them and be like, yeah, he's terrible,
but he's a white guy, and I can see him
being president.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
Agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
And we're like, y'all don't normally feel this way about
black women. They say, well, we learned from Hillary. Okay,
this is different. We got one hundred days. We just
need to put that. And then you went in that
fucking booth and you voted Democrat everywhere but for her.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
A right, baby, What am I supposed to take from this?
And and like I said, I I will not change
my mind on this.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
And there's nothing anybody can say this country only wants
white people to be president.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
And I was saying, and I will stand on it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
In other parts of the country called niggas down here koons,
and they act like something's motherfucking wrong when we said
Joe Biden. And I think the biggest thing about Joe
Biden stepping down is that the voters voted for him,
and I did not get to say so. I did
not want him to step down. I feel like this.
I feel like Joe Biden's presidency was stolen from me,

(01:49:16):
Like me personally, I can't speak for nobody else. I
feel like it was stolen from me. I voted for
that man. I wanted that man in office. I wanted
him to run again. I didn't give a fuck about
the other side. Because there's a fucking shit show over there.
Both of these niggas is old. So let the old
man have an old man white man off.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
So now the person that I voted vote the person
that I wanted, the person that I didn't want to
step down was forced to step down because y'all got scared.
That's not my fault. That's not my fault. That's not
my fault, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
And I don't want to hear any counter arguments to
the shit because we were right. So what are we doing,
Like whatever fucking machination you're coming up with your brain
to justify this shit? In hindsight, we lost, so you
were Now you can feel strongly the other way, but
you don't have any facts to back you up. End

(01:50:06):
of the motherfucking day. Everything you said was supposed to
be smooth and go, and this is gonna be the chance,
and this is how we're gonna win. What's wrong because
your fellow citizens, many of them white or Latino men.
I don't want to forget y'all. Y'all getting y'all shout out,
meant y'all winning that booth, and said, I can I

(01:50:30):
like the Democrats, just not her. I can't hand this
black woman be in charge of everything. And from this
point on, you should be listening to us. Now you
won't because you're in on individual person and you're gonna
rationalize this shit some other way. You're gonna tell me
it's about the economy or some other inflation, like black
people don't deal with inflation or the economy, or being

(01:50:51):
working class when eighty percent of us, eighty five percent
of us showed up and voted Democrats. But but but
somehow the working class just white people that don't want
to vote for us Democrats now or actually don't want
to vote for Democrat president because y'all did vote for
Democrat bound ballot. So you're gonna come up with excuses
and rationalizations. And I think, because we know y'all so well,

(01:51:13):
what you're really about to understand is the silence is
gonna be us saying, oh, we don't give a fuck anymore. YEP,
Like it's not gonna like they're waiting on us to
come through and like whether it's yell at them, organize,
tell them how we getting this shit back? What they
waiting on? Some look like cause this when they turn

(01:51:35):
to us, like lead us. We fucked up, y'all? Can
you can you fix it? And I'm telling you you ain't.
You don't hold your breath because it's like, oh nah,
you can't accept a truth. There's nothing more powerful about
There's nothing more powerful than a truth. A person won't
tell themselves and that is what America is doing. America

(01:51:56):
won't tell itself a truth that there are just white
people in this country who are racist and misogynistic. And
they don't want any of the lies that they're telling you.
They wanted these interviews. They don't want someone talking about
the economy. That's a lie. They don't want somebody telling
them about international politics. That's a fucking lie. They don't
want someone uh uh that it's not that they don't

(01:52:19):
know the candidate. You froze again. Yeah, I'll come back, okay,
because you be on screen on my side, like anyway,
all right, we gotta get a a second then, But yeah,
it's a fucking lie. They don't want the things that
they're telling you that they want, And as long as
you act like that's what's happening, it's holding us all back.
And I think a lot of us are just tired
of that. It's like, oh, we're good then, you know,

(01:52:40):
now you're on screen twice by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
And also I think for me, what was.

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
Even extra more insulting was, Okay, I felt like the
person that I elected for president was stolen from me. Cool, Okay,
So now y'all saying we're gonna go for the black person.
They was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, kN okay, we got scared.
We gonna find somebody replace him. I was like, and
that took me a while to get over, y'all. So

(01:53:11):
I said, okay, cool, cool, Cool, y'all gonna find somebody
replace him. It better be the vice president because anybody
else I'm gonna be angry.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
So y'all got her up there and and I'm like, okay,
I'm gonna I'm going to support whoever the Democratic candidate is.
And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna give, I'm gonna donate,
I'm gonna do this, and I hope that she wins.
I hope that y'all didn't lie to me, you know

(01:53:40):
what I'm saying. But I always knew that the outcome
could go the other way. But I was like, Okay,
I hope that y'all don't lie to me, because to me,
her losing is more insulting than body and losing.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
In my eyes. I can't speak for nobody else, but
for me, it is more insulting.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
That is the part that I was alluding to when
it's happened, was I said from the beginning, I said, Okay,
we're doing this. You understand that this loss is worse
than a Biden loss, right, this loss you can't come
back from because it's slapping the face the black women,

(01:54:16):
because all you're really saying is we would never vote
for a black woman. Agreed, and I got some Look,
I got some friends, some really smart black friends, and
shit that that that they they have a they they had.
You know, I don't know it's gonna sound in something,
so I just won't say it. But there's there's a

(01:54:38):
type of person that really does not understand how much
credence we give to white folks when we make these
arguments about stuff that we just accept them at face value.
For and the last time I'm ever accepting white people
at face value is when they told me they thought
they would vote for Kamala Harris because they're better. She's
a better candidate. You don't know yourselves. We do you

(01:55:00):
know you because we have to navigate white supremacy in
order to exist in this country. Yes, you don't, so
you just you think you are good people. As far
as a mass of people that vote, you have not
voted for Democrats in mass since the Civil Rights Act passed,
basically since black people got the right to vote. You've said,

(01:55:20):
I fuck Democrats. I can't trust the average white face
and just go I know that person's on my side.
I can't. There's people now that writing these long screams
about like you just getting rid of people over politics
and shit. I can't trust you because you think politics
is just some shit that don't really affect me. You

(01:55:40):
just think it's just like, oh man, my team lost
the Super Bowl. That's no bitch, this is about to
affect my personal fucking life. So I can't trust you.
No one can trust you. And the biggest weakness is
that those of you who are good still trust those
of you who are not to say no, no, no, no,

(01:56:00):
it was the economy. Oh no, no, no no. What
they need is uh, they just need to hear like
the message a different way, na, Na. This guy Trump
left none of that on the table. There's not an
economic message where I go. Fuck that speech he delivered
that really did get to the heartst there's none of it.
He left none of that for y'all to be able

(01:56:21):
to try to make us go like, oh shit, yeah,
I can see what you mean.

Speaker 4 (01:56:26):
Nah.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
He was like, it's we gonna get rid of immigrants.

Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
They eating dolls and cats. I'm lying on here. They're
killing babies after they're born. He didn't leave a thing
for me to give y'all so I could be like, well, shit,
if that's that's the gift we've been given through this
Trump administration, this Trump election cycle. Is he took away
plausible deniability. So I don't want to hear it, and
I don't You can you can say it. I'm just
not gonna be listening to you and I'm never gonna

(01:56:49):
believe it, and I will always challenge it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
Yeah, And my biggest thing before we move on, and
I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna say it with
my whole motherfucking chest all you people. And he's God
damn hipper Land States, the I out here where y'all
always vote blue. Guess what y'all gonna be under Trump
rule too, like like like like all these people who

(01:57:11):
we both blew, we always gonna be saved. You know,
that's something that always affects the South. We're extra special.
Don't know shit, come out here and bother us where
y'all can say shit like fuck the South. Y'all can
say shit like you know, we don't get we don't
get fuck about them people down there. Y'all gonna find
out that the South was was was holding this country

(01:57:33):
together more than y'all think it was. And y'all get
ready to find out when Trump made these bands for abortion.
This shit is affecting y'all too. When Trump sucks up
the tax code. This shit is affecting y'all too. When
when when Republicans and and and in all these states
y'all gonna have, Republicans is getting ready to come.

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
Through the gonna kicking the door wave in the faux Fo.
They getting ready to win.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
These people have been out in the boonies and the
sticks of some of these goddamn states. Cause I don't
care what state you have. You have a lot of
states they gonna blue. But you have a lot of
counties and districts outside of the big cities that are
fucking red. They're red, y'all. They're red because this shit
is all across the country. All Trump did was embolding
these people in upstate New York. They're emboding these people

(01:58:17):
in upstate California. They emboding these people to come in
and say, oh, it's our time to dance. Now, y'all
get ready to fill the shit that the South has
been goddamn warning y'all about. We've been telling y'all this
is not a game, y'all. They've been Jerry Mandarin. They've
been fucking shit up were fighting for our lives. And
what y'all do High high Hi. Them niggas down south?

(01:58:39):
Why them niggas down south put Joe Biden up there.
They don't know what the fuck they're doing. They stupid
ass niggas. Well, we about to find out that the
stupid ass niggas these countries slang po folks down here.
The rest of the country about to find out. What
the fuck we've been telling y'all for fucking decades.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
I live in this. I'm true to this, y'all. Y'all
about to find out.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
Any blue ass liberal states y'all gonna look up and
y'all got their rights are gonna be gone and it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
Gonna be shit. You're gonna do about it, and you can.
And what do y'all tell us?

Speaker 1 (01:59:09):
Well, it ain't just move, bitch, Ain't nowhere to move now,
y'all tell us pack y'all bags up and move.

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
Ain't no where to move.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
It's all up south. It's all up south. That's all
it is. America like, it's all up south, even the
states like New York. Every state in America, according to
the Final Talies, supposedly every state moved to the right
except Colorado. Every state at some point. You just have

(01:59:39):
to say white people wanted this right, you know what
I'm saying. Like, and Alicia, don't make this personal. If
it don't apply, let it fly. If you not want
the people that think this way in the chat, we don't.
We're not asking for your personal signifiers. But we don't
don't gaslight us either. We've set up here, we listen
to other people's podcasts. We've listened to people top about it,

(02:00:00):
We've seen interviews. There's a lot of people who will
say stuff like, well, my vote doesn't even count. I
live in California, right, And if you've never heard that,
that's on you. There's people that say, I'm from New
York City. I mean, listen, whatever happens, I know we'll
be safe. Yes, what Karen is telling you is those people,
if you're not one of them, then you should be
agreeing with Karen and be like, oh yeah, I know

(02:00:21):
those motherfuckers too. I've always thought they was crazy. What
she's saying is when you watch a state like New
York game, I forget the exact amount. It's like, I
don't know, I forget whatever amount. But New York went redder.
New York went redder this year, meaning people in New
York City, even some of them, turned and voted Republican.

(02:00:44):
So this isn't a this isn't a a South problem.
And it just don't take much for people to win
these lower offices and shit, And those are the people
that control your school boards, those people that control your
redistrict thing that shit. You know, Cali turned Yeah, like
it's like, like I said, people can I know it

(02:01:05):
makes people feel like it's different, But this ain't a
personal thing. Karen's giving you facts. They're inconvenient facts. If
you don't like how they feel, you don't like how
they feel. But you know this ain't about you personally.
But it's a lot of motherfuckers that talk like this
and Karen saying it is your vote does matter, that
that this idea that you safe, You're not safe. You're

(02:01:29):
here what the rest of us? And now you're gonna
start to see what it feels like when you're not safe,
and those assumptions you made about what must be happening
down south, you're about to find out what that feels like. Yeah,
I'll never forget that. One of the one of the
riots in the North during the Civil War happened in
New York City where they went and lynched and killed

(02:01:51):
a bunch of black men. And you go, there's a
Civil War and it's New York City. Ain't New York
City on the side of the Union. They killed those
black people because Abraham Lincoln passed essentially essentially a draft
and said, hey, y'all white dudes, y'all got to come

(02:02:13):
down here and joined the military and getting this motherfucking
civil war battle, and they were so mad they wouldn't
kill black people, innocent black people. It was mind name,
motherfucking business. So the idea that New York is different,
it's not true. What's what was in New York is
that it just wasn't a lot of black people, and
they didn't feel the animosity and the encroaching loss of

(02:02:35):
space or whatever that the people in the South felt. Right,
but those white people weren't necessarily morally higher ground or better.
They were simply not having to deal with it. And
once they were told you actually have a responsibility this
country and you had to deal with it, some of
them went and killed some innocent black men the same
way they do in the South. Right, And so that
is why Karen's like, it's not just where you're at,

(02:02:59):
you know, it's not just that, like she's just insane.
Throughout throughout this country. It is connected. And if you
want to take it personal and make it seem like
someone's talking directly about you, you're listening to the show,
why do you even think we're talking about you? But
if you then it just makes it seem like, did
you believe this shit? Is that why you're just getting
offended by it? No one here said black people in

(02:03:22):
the North don't have roots for the South. All of
we're from the fucking South. We know y'all have roots
in the South. It's us, you know what I mean,
cousins and shit come down from New York to get
some black experience. Like nobody's saying that. We're not saying
we're not connected. We're saying there are people in other
places who have floated out this idea of this disconnective
I'm in a safe place and you're in a dangerous place. Yes,

(02:03:45):
if you're not. You know what I mean? Mother? You
know how many motherfucking times I've heard someone make a
joke as a black person about I'm from the North,
but you know, you go down South and it's like blank,
And I'm like, is it like stopping frisk right, It's
like broken windows policing?

Speaker 3 (02:04:06):
Like what what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (02:04:08):
It's like blank? You're not safe either? Is it like
Cali where the where the lapd exists? Like, like, dog,
we in this shit together? If you don't see, are
we're the ones telling you we in it together?

Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
You know?

Speaker 2 (02:04:23):
I still not the fuck it. I remember listening to
twelve and Elon being like, my vote does the count.
I'm in California, earned my voter, losing all this shit,
and I'm like, your vote count because you're a nigga
and you in America, so it count. You don't have
to want it to count. It fucking count. And now

(02:04:43):
you look at Cali and it's fucking a lot of
it's red. A lot of these counties are red. Apparently
your vote count a lot more than you thought, and
it's counting more every fucking day because you're about to
be in a voting fight for your city, for your country.
I know he don't let that no more. But my
point being like, that's that's the reality. Anytime you feel safe.

Speaker 3 (02:05:01):
You not right. And and that's kind of my whole point.

Speaker 1 (02:05:04):
And also it's like it's like the South, the whole
country has a sickness, and the whole country has a disease.
But white people have tricked themselves and they have tricked
other people to think that this disease only affects the South,
and that this disease never spread, never spread, It sprinkles

(02:05:26):
in the rest of the country. But what people are
going to find out is that the disease has always
been there. It's been dormant, and disease is getting ready
to come out. Racism, misogyny, homophobic, transphobic, anti semitism, The
disease has always been in this country. This country was
built on hatred, and so what they failed to realize

(02:05:48):
is that it's always been there. And the South has
been saying, y'all, we are sick and we need to
fix this. In order to fix this, we need to
fix the South, and y'all said, fuck it is.

Speaker 2 (02:06:01):
We know we're in a fight down here, right y'all
to y'all, Right, y'all, y'all of y'all just have been
told or indoctrinated into thinking, y'all not in this fight,
that y'all fighting a different fight. And the thing down
south you just can't deny as a fight, right, you
just can't. It's like the enemy in your face all
the fucking time, they got control, you fighting for control.

(02:06:24):
It's you know, the amount of uh, you know, we
need to move on because I'm just I don't want
to turn this into me shitting on people, and I
would like to make this not a four hour show
because that we can upload it the YouTube at some point.

Speaker 3 (02:06:38):
No problem. I get it in a one more thing
before we go.

Speaker 1 (02:06:43):
It is also for me one of those things to
when you look at people and I'm going to watch
these people, all these people they was talking about, even
on the left, this revolution and all this shit.

Speaker 3 (02:06:54):
Okay, bitch, you ain't got no guns. You don't got
no gun.

Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
Y'all running up on the capitol or not?

Speaker 3 (02:07:00):
Right? Are we gonna have a January sixth? If not,
I don't wanna hear anything. Y'all got.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
Y'all gonna vote like everybody else. Y'all gonna follow the
rules like everybody else. Y'all ain't going outside. Bit y'all
can't even get y'all to go and motherfucking vote. The
fuck you're gonna do a revolution? For get out my
whole ass face.

Speaker 2 (02:07:15):
This ain't Hunger Games, right, You ain't cattingus Everdean Joe
ass down. You ain't finna do shit, all right, God,
I can't. I don't even know how we got on
that anyway. Sean says, you had one job of America
that was only one legitimate candidate on the ballot. There's
no way you can fuck it up, and uh yeah,
they did run around for us, says I was switched

(02:07:35):
off completely on Tuesday. I've never tried to recreate the
twenty sixteen e spirits all over again. I'm a parent now,
advocid to motivate in the morning and be curious about
our school days went down in the afternoon. Was I
disappointed when I got the news on Wednesday morning? First
there was a Senate that reached me before the presidential
I just took a deep breath and went about my day.
Tried listening to this episode afterward, but by who news,
I began to cry. Maybe it was anger, maybe it

(02:07:57):
was frustration, more like disappointment. Thank you to for always
being the best podcasts in the world.

Speaker 3 (02:08:01):
I was there with you, brother.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
I cried a few tears myself talking with a friend.
Uh you know, he was still trying to tell me
some economic whatever the fuck reason. I was like, Nigga,
I live in a swing state. I saw the ads,
I saw the speeches she did talk about those things.
I don't know where you're getting your information, probably from
these white people that do New York Times shit. These

(02:08:23):
motherfuckers are lying to you, and you need to stop
believing them. Yes, sir, they just don't want this nigga
at the top of the ticket.

Speaker 3 (02:08:29):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:30):
What Josh Stein wasn't the Democrat Josh Stein that won
here he didn't know you know what I mean? Jeff Jackson,
he a Democrat.

Speaker 1 (02:08:39):
He won.

Speaker 2 (02:08:40):
That's now when it was all my Adams a couple
of years ago, she lost. Oh what's the commonality?

Speaker 3 (02:08:47):
They know?

Speaker 2 (02:08:47):
I know what it is, bro, You're not finla. Whatever
the percentage is they line to you. It was the economy.
Trump adn't kid a fuck or talk about the economy.
Fuck out there. Curve Stompers says, long time to listening,
first time comment and going in with the mindset that
we can protect that what we love and help that
things are not screwed up enough in two years to
vote them out. We'll see your tune day, says patiently

(02:09:11):
awaiting Karen steaming furnace of rage about this election. My
anger has been Simmary, I think you got some.

Speaker 3 (02:09:17):
Got some today.

Speaker 2 (02:09:18):
I'm just don't apologize no matter of fact, moving on,
don't even I don't even want to hear apologies. You're
totally right and it's justified. And they should hear this shit.

Speaker 3 (02:09:27):
Right, because that's the thing it's being y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:09:29):
Bridget says, I keep missing the live email on YouTube.
I don't know what's going on, Bridget. How I look
at your settings on crowdcasts email crowdcast. We don't control that,
but if you're not getting the crowdcast alert, then you
need to contact crowdcasts. We can't do anything. Other people
are getting it because they're in the chat right now.
And I know one day it just wasn't working, but

(02:09:50):
it's back the working. It's been working.

Speaker 3 (02:09:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09:51):
And also they have an app for Android too, So
if you have Android and you like I want to
see the show live and I'll want it on my phone,
I'll get the Android app to z mom.

Speaker 2 (02:10:00):
Harp says, you guys were smart not to watch. Thank you.
Beyonca says, as happy as you guys are not to
receive text anymore, we're equally as happy not to send
them anymore. The things people said to us from doing
our jobs was frightening. I just wish they helped. Yeah,
and thank you for your work. Thank you, Beyonca. Alesco
says this has to be the saddest episode of the Blackout.

(02:10:21):
Tips this ain't even that sad an episode. I'ma be
honest with you. It's probably sad because you know the
results and listen to it later. But to be honest,
that's not even that sad. I'm watching y'all have fun
to make jokes while the disappointed election results of becoming
a parent can't wait for the next episode. At least
I can count on you to the rise up a
butt of dem and glow. No, you can't javas love welp.

(02:10:42):
Apparently we will go back. I'm hopeful that we can't
get through this term as we did the last. Oh
and I'm sorry, Alesco. I don't want to be dismissive.
I'm a sober realist. Okay, I'm optimistic about life, but
because I don't want to allow my anxiety to fill

(02:11:02):
in the empty space with negativity. So I'm constantly fighting
against that. Y'all have experienced that. Y'all heard it on
the show. It's frustrating to some of my friends. They
called me. They be saying some bullshit to me, and
I'll be like, or what if we allow for the
possibility could go good? We never know, right, So, so
I don't know if this episode is gonna give you
what you feel. But I do want you to know

(02:11:24):
this podcast, we're not changing shit. This wasn't our fault.
We're gonna still be engaged, We're still gonna be funny,
We're still gonna find joy. Joy is part of this
resistance in my mind at this point, and right now
it might even be the most important part is to
find that joy, because I think there's an undercurrent in
this shit that people have not really grasped with, which

(02:11:46):
is that the white people and lating them men that
voted for this shit, they did it to make us
feel a certain way.

Speaker 3 (02:11:53):
Yes, they like it.

Speaker 2 (02:11:56):
They like that rage that we have that we're just
playing in this moment. They like that. They like the
depression and the sadness that we're talking. They liked it.
I cried.

Speaker 7 (02:12:06):
He liked that.

Speaker 2 (02:12:07):
That's why they did it on a serious moment. That
is the point. But just because I experienced those things
does not mean that is who I am and where.

Speaker 3 (02:12:20):
I stay right right, I'm not gonna stay stuck.

Speaker 2 (02:12:22):
I'm black in America. I've been here before.

Speaker 1 (02:12:27):
Yeah, we've been forced to move on, Like I don't
think people fail to realize.

Speaker 3 (02:12:30):
So we have we've been forced.

Speaker 2 (02:12:32):
So now it's your term to be crying about whatever
the fuck is gonna happen to you, like.

Speaker 3 (02:12:39):
You hurt you.

Speaker 2 (02:12:40):
It's like you stabbed me by stabbing through yourself. Yes,
and you laughing because you like ha ha, you you bleeding,
and I'm like, bitch, the sword went through your solar plexus.
You you find to feeling too, Yes, and maybe more
than me. Yeah, like I some of the I got

(02:13:01):
the little piece of the sword that went through you.
I'm gonna be all right, But you.

Speaker 3 (02:13:05):
Got the blunt of it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
And guess what, baby, I got other skull. I don't
know if you notice. I've been stabbed quite a few times.

Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
Multiple times. Child, I put like this. I've had to
repair and fix myself.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
I remember served sandwiches and Grandma allowances. Okay, out of
drink sugar water, My nigga, you're fitting. I've eaten spam. Okay,
I had If you found the fine out, I had
to think baloney, you got it, matter of fact. Let
me tell you right now, I'll give you a little
free game. Cut the baloney first before you fry, and

(02:13:35):
then it won't do that bubble thing. You gonna need
to know that because we all eating, we back to
the free bolone. Yeah, the government, yeah, and all said.

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
A lot a lot of these upp of the negroes
gonna get the shock of their lives because they gonna
be like, y'all eat baloney, yes, bitch, ain't I mean
fried baloney sandwiches.

Speaker 2 (02:13:53):
Don't do this, don't do this, don't do this. I
wasn't literally talking about making a joke. Why did you
get so little?

Speaker 3 (02:14:02):
I'm like, I'm getting sere y'all with y'all, y'all. Trump
won't take it back. I guess he won't take it
back to that too. I was serious.

Speaker 1 (02:14:09):
I was like, well that's how you cut on, like,
well shit, and we're talking about bologna.

Speaker 3 (02:14:13):
I'm about that life. I'm one of them up any
negroes now I'm talking about me chat. I don't want
to go back. Cha talking about going back? I was like, bitch, why,
oh my god? I remember them days.

Speaker 2 (02:14:28):
For what it was an analogy.

Speaker 3 (02:14:30):
It's not literally all right, all right, y'all, we can't
stay serious for long.

Speaker 2 (02:14:42):
JV City says hard emolde you wealth. Apparently we will
go back, hopefully that we get through this term. As
we did the last, afraid that it may come to
violence though if the Reds get froggy, hoping that we
will not have more violence of domestic terrorists, we will.
I mean, hate crimes went up under Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:14:59):
It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:15:00):
But we was living with this every day. The country
never stopped hating us, helping people sober up and really
pay attention. I spoke with Republican coworkers. Their main concerns
were money and anti Democrats in certain stupid reasoning. There
really is no talking to people that feel worse than
reality presents itself. Hoping for change, giving billionaires the reins.
That is all I can think about right now. My

(02:15:20):
stomach hurts. Back to work, I go, Yeah, I feel
bad to JV City. I hate you had to go
to work on some shit like this. And yeah, their
main concerns were money and quotes and money is race racism,
Yes it is. Christap says man fuck Trump. But I'm
more bummed that we didn't get our first female president.
It is female still acceptible to use I don't really
know it's acceptable to using those terms. It's not acceptable

(02:15:43):
when you be like these females.

Speaker 3 (02:15:45):
Right these you might as well say these bites.

Speaker 2 (02:15:47):
If you would not say this is okay, here's a
I think a good catch'll. It's not perfect, but it's
a good catch all. If you would not say male
in that situation, then probably don't say female. Agree, you
know what I'm saying, Like, if it's a distinction, you
need to make I understand. Like it's like when people say,
you know, there's a fucking rap Grammy and it's like

(02:16:08):
best female artists. Okay, that's fine. No one's ever been
too upset about that. But if you just call someone female,
this is normally an issue. It's like the word transgender.
If you say someone is a transgender woman, transgender man,
transgender person, those things are all acceptable. If you be
like a transgender said, that's not necessarily it's no longer
the scriptor right, and it starts to feel a little weird.

(02:16:29):
So I hope that helps. It's a pretty simple one
that I use. I grew up in Jamaica and witness
our first female prime minister being elected, and I was
too young to understand the gravity of that moment, and
that what it meant for my mom my hope is
that my future kids get the witness something similar. Lastly,
shout to kamalast she did the damn thing, and I'm
so proud that I was able to vote for her,
saying it wasn't her fru You know, it's not Alicia,

(02:16:50):
says hi Rod and caroen Rod, You're absolutely right about
who will get to blame. I receive this text from
a friend. He texted, apparently America wasn't ready for a
black woman last thing I want to do. It's come
off like I'm blaming you or black women for it.
It's just that was my initial thought. But it's water
under the bridge. That's a crazy way to frame that.
So now I guess it's black women's fault because we

(02:17:10):
got behind Harris when she became the nominee and supported
her more than anyone any other group did. I haven't
responded to that text. I'm still trying to figure out
if I should remain cool with this person qu the
Riders right song. Yeah, it's a lot of it can't
be white people's faults, so it's our fault somehow, And
I don't know what to tell y'all. You know, like
I said, I saw that a brother on the New
York Times saying some shit about they needed an open primary.

(02:17:32):
And I said, brother, if you think it was about
a primary, then the motherfucker that's why you got you
work at the New York Times because you still believe
in them. Yeah, you still got some belief in these
They got you, They got you, They got your ass,
because it's no motherfucking way you walked out of here.
It was like, the problem was there's not a primary
on the Democratic side. I mean, if you really have

(02:17:55):
a lot of faith in those people and that they're
telling you the truth, sure, but I don't. And I
think I know, and I don't know what y'all do.
When what do you do when y'all have a default
belief in these people that won't you won't shake, right,
I don't know. I don't have I mean, it's not
my problem. It's my problem in that it's enough of

(02:18:15):
y'all that's fucking it up for the rest of us.
But it's not my problem because I see through the
bullsh I'm like, oh yeah, I saw the ad. Trump
ad was like trans men are playing basketball with little girls,
and crime is high even though it's not, and immigrants
are killing people and taking your jobs even though they aren't.
And Colin was like, the economy. Here's how I'm gonna

(02:18:39):
help you. Here's what we're gonna do, the Scott Price gougeing.
Here's what we're gonna do to fix this. And y'all
was like, yeah, my problem was the economy, and she
just didn't speak to it. Trump spoke to it when
he said trans men is playing basketball little girls. Okay,
y'all won't believe a lot bleed a lot. I don't
have to. They ain't gonna lie to my face. I
found the numbers in your pocket. I don't need to

(02:19:00):
call him. I got it right, Cali Brush says. Mike
says the level of distrust the white women, a good
portion of black people in the worst group of all
Latinos for Trump to think about all this bullshit this
motherfucker has done. These stupid ass people voted him back,
all of the people who were super fucking excited for
VP Harris, and then we got stuck with this bitch.
He committed to so much. Hell uh, he committed so
much hell and Latino's in this country think they're going

(02:19:22):
to be rewarded. Man, Fuck everyone. It feels like everything
was a set up, from stage assassination to pulling out Elon.
This is all stage to build up sympathy for him.
White people were all baking or maintaining a white fake power. Yeah,
I don't think. I don't think I ever give him
the credit of saying he staged assassination. I don't think
he's brave enough. I just don't. I think y'all. I

(02:19:45):
think y'all know that deep down too, he ain't got
he you think he got what it takes to let
a bullet graze by his ear. I don't this nigga
is a coward, bro, He's a bond villain. He'd be
hitting an escape hatches. Everybody's drowning in this fucking layer.
Did you watch election night coverage? Yes, a lot, twenty
percent a little bit twenty fifty three percent did not,

(02:20:07):
And you know I would say I'm I would say
I'm in a twenty six percent, like I think I
definitely checked the channel like once or twice that night
and went right back to like, all right, video game,
all right TV. Like I couldn't sit and I just
couldn't sit and watch it all night. I don't know
how people do that. All Right? One more episode with
ten comments on this one and I think we got

(02:20:28):
twenty on the on the YouTube for this one.

Speaker 3 (02:20:32):
Yeah, I had something to say.

Speaker 2 (02:20:33):
Yeah, it's gonna be a long ass episode, but we
started early for this reason. All right, Wait, am I
still on screen?

Speaker 3 (02:20:41):
I see you?

Speaker 2 (02:20:43):
Okay? Why is my fucking thing blank?

Speaker 7 (02:20:45):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:20:45):
That's what happened to me. That's why I was refreshing
my whole page blank, your whole page blank? No, like
like my lit Okay, I swear blank, I see it.
I'm not in my square with blank. Okay, here we go.
The last episode is actually a pregame behind the paywi
episode called who was Surviving America is Us? And justin
we just discussed twenty twenty four election. I knew y'all

(02:21:06):
probably wanted to hear this and maybe even needed to
hear it on some level, and so he said, let's
just put this out for everybody. But this is what
the fuck we talk about. About. The playwill all the time,
normally funnier, normally more varied topics, but it's always a
good time. And if you're not behind the paywall, get
behind the paywall. It helps us tremendously to be able
to bring y'all this show. Shady Dame says, I'm so

(02:21:27):
day am mad at these white women for failing us
again at the pulling up. We're all sisters, bs. I
live out here, yes, Lucy with the football. I live
out here in Nevada in a small town, so I
know I'm surrounded by red whites. However, what I didn't
expect to happen was these brides intentionally voting to allow abortion.
We're also voting to put pro Trump back in office,
knowing that he did what he did last time. Sixty

(02:21:48):
percent here voted for choice, over sixty percent voted for Trump. Yeah,
Florida had a similar thing. Now that Florida's tricky because
they passed the resolution that made it so that in
order for something to pass in Florida, as far as
a ballot initiative, it has to get over sixty percent
of the vote, which doesn't seem fair fifty it's a
democracy fifty percent. But that's how they keep stuff like,

(02:22:10):
that's how they get to be like, we voted, we
put it on the ballot, should abortion be legal? After
six weeks and it failed and you're like it failed,
and it's like, yeah, it failed with fifty five percent
of the vote. That normally would passes in any other
state that would only pass, but they so. And they
did the same thing with weed. Over fifty percent of
people was like, we should legalize weed in Florida's like,

(02:22:32):
well it was see now sixty percent. So once again,
think about those numbers. Over fifty percent voted for those
initiatives they didn't pass. Over fifty percent did not vote
for Kamala Harris. So over fifty percent of them did
want these liberal policies. They wanted that abortion of a turn,

(02:22:56):
but they didn't. They if they would have voted for
Kamala Harris in the same percentage as they voted for
those initiaess she would have won.

Speaker 3 (02:23:03):
Yes, sir, what is it? What is it?

Speaker 2 (02:23:06):
I went into work on Wednesday, stupid as fuck. I
know now, I don't tell that, and went to the
bathroom to try to decompress for a moment. I was
greeted by two white chicks bawling in the bathroom. I
gave an I roll and I ignored them. When one
of them called my name. Man, I ain't got nothing
for you, becks. Go talk to your sisters about them
choices they made understood the signing, Yeah, man, it's not
that I what I say. You have made me cold.

(02:23:29):
I don't want to be cold. You going through some shit.
You probably a good person. You probably voted the right way.

Speaker 3 (02:23:34):
That's why you crying.

Speaker 2 (02:23:35):
You you shocked that your white women portrayed buttrayed you
as much as you know you can as a person
could be shocked. I'm a little less shocked than you.
We did this before.

Speaker 3 (02:23:44):
I'm a less shocked dizzy.

Speaker 2 (02:23:46):
Lizzie Gal says we cooked. Indeed, thanks for this, y'all.
America's at landa contradictions. My fellow Californias went for hass
but voted to keep slavery while incarcerated in place, voted
to bring back a version of three strikes, and voted
against rent control. I don't get it right, And y'all know,
y'all high shitting.

Speaker 3 (02:24:02):
Count ain't y'all dyn't win his fucking sky high.

Speaker 2 (02:24:05):
I hope I see y'all on blue Sky. You don't
need to invite codes anymore. Who knows what Elon would
do come January? Might shut down Twitter all together? Yeah,
I don't. I don't even know what to tell y'all.
I'm so not I don't think Twitter is going to
fix or I don't think Twitter is changing shit. I
just don't. I mean, leave to spite him, sure, but

(02:24:25):
he ain't even making money on Twitter. It's all a
fucking bullshit thing. Cgter says man. I started listening before
the twenty twenty election that gut rich and dread in
my stomach, that I felt that collective week of Italian
votes visited me again and persist even now. But I'm
glad I'm here because everything I could think of, every
erroneous point, every what if or what about? I had
in my head while trying to come to terms with this,

(02:24:47):
y'all talked about with nuance and care and expressed what
I couldn't even get out of my head in this
state of anger and disappointment. I know it don't mean
much to the overall situation, but thank you for that.
Your voice are very needed and welcome at this time.
Thank you. I just don't know where we go from here.
Another generation of black people have to fight massive oppression again.
We have to fight against billionaire donors, will for ignorance, bigotry,

(02:25:07):
racism and soogyny, and growing generation of you red pil
gen z men. And that's new what's new is this
resentment from other minorities. White supremacy must be the best
tasting dish of all time. If you willingly cut off
your nose despite your face. Well, you know this probably
is not gonna feel like solace right now, but I
truly do mean this as solace. Everything you just said

(02:25:30):
was new is not. It's all old, and it's just
a matter of reframing your thinking. When you said, what's
new is this resentment from other minorities? Did you know
that Irish people weren't white, Scottish people weren't white, Italians
were not white, and they also resented other minorities like

(02:25:51):
they resented black people too, And then they got indoctrinated
into whiteness. They got let into whiteness so that whiteness
could continue to grow its numbers, because it's always a doing.
The proposition that one day be a minority, just doomed
by the way, just the way that DNA works. It's
not anything they can do about it. But yeah, that's
not new. Your assens a fault this and this is
just the passage is the right of passage. You're you're

(02:26:13):
now in the ship too, and you have always been
in the ship. You just may not have recognized it
or or really felt it like it felt this week,
but you've been in the shit. You just looked up
and you finally see some ones and zeros in the
matrix floating down. It's like, oh shit, we in the matrix.
That's it. Like damn, it feels like black people are
fetishized for pushing the cause for a movement, but then

(02:26:34):
get kicked out after one night like a hookup. I
don't even know where the dams go from here. If
they are seen as the party of Black people by
others and they resent us for whatever damn reason. You
might be right, maybe a push toward the right is
what it will take.

Speaker 3 (02:26:45):
It might be.

Speaker 2 (02:26:46):
I don't think they're leaving out of this going. You know,
what people really need is a lot of left wing
DEI inclusivity. That's not what it I think what they're
what the lesson is, and what people like Bill Maher
are gonna take from this is Democrats need to look
in the mirror and get white working class voters back
on their side. And no one's gonna stop and go

(02:27:06):
what does it take to get white working class voters?
Because she had economic policies, they're gonna just say shit
like you know, obviously her economic message didn't reach them. No, No,
what it's gonna take is a Democratic party that is
willfully showing they're putting all other people that are not
white men and white people. They're pushing their needs secondary. Yep.

(02:27:32):
They the white people that won't vote Democrat or the
white people that vote Trump, they need that. What Trump
gave them there was a consistent message is that they
will not He will never ever help those people.

Speaker 1 (02:27:47):
Whoever, whoever, whoever, those people like those people. There's a
long gas list, long gass list. He said, I will
do for myself. I mean, obviously I put myself above
all of y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:27:56):
Fuck y'all. But what I promise you is that you'll
never catch me helping black people in any way that
that would you ever. You'll never help me. You've never
seen me helping immigrants, You'll never see me helping gay people.
And they like that more than they like the economy
or whatever message Tom was getting.

Speaker 1 (02:28:16):
I didn't want to hear anything else. If you're not
willing to say those we can't talk.

Speaker 2 (02:28:20):
Yeah, where are the plans? Okay, that's what the problem was.

Speaker 3 (02:28:24):
It was a concept.

Speaker 2 (02:28:26):
Just go after the white women and Latino population when
you make the bills benefiting them, name it for them
and throw something that just they inmate for us. Maybe no, no,
that's not They don't want legislation, that's not it. I
don't know, man, I'm just hurting confused. I tell you
one thing, Whatever my sister, wherever my sisters go, whether
staying here, a third party or whatever, that's what I'm
gonna be at two full stop. Screw the rest of
the coalition. Shake my damn head.

Speaker 1 (02:28:46):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (02:28:46):
One more thought came to mind as I sit here
burning about this motherfucker's status in the back? How many
people you think wanted this to happen because that rage
content machine was drying up under Biden. That's part of it.
I know the media wanted it, but I bet some
of these online blacks couldn't wait to release these think
pieces and follow me the freedom because I'm the only
black sermons. I guess the business is good again, No

(02:29:08):
it's not. It's not. They will not see a benefit
of white guilt economy again. My bad. I'm just royally
pissed off and vin it's all good. Get your vent
out Cjeter.

Speaker 3 (02:29:16):
Yeah, they won't not this time. That buddy gone.

Speaker 2 (02:29:19):
I'm just saying, says I usually don't comment, but I
wanted to say something here. Every now and then, the
US does something that will smack Black people in the
face to remind them of who they are and what
this country has done to them. Those moments are crystallized
and going to impact the Black people that are coming
to age during that time. Obama winning was a great moment,
but I do think that there's a generation of black
people that saw their emergers of the tea party afterwards
as smack in the face. For some, it was George

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