3009: CaKe CaKe CaKes

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program is gonna be like I always get some email
or something from somebody three weeks later, like, hey, man,
I know it's twenty twenty five, but what's up with
that Black Friday sail?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Come on, man? The window open long? At hell? Is
this ain't even really Black Friday?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Is?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's like the seventeen You got so much time to
do this, so makes y'all do.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
That three whole weeks? All right, let's get into the show,
show stuff I get. Do you have any banter?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
I do?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay, all right, let me pull up the banter music.
Sorry everybody, I wasn't prepared for this. Here we go.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Do you have any Do you have any?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Do you have any banter? Answer? Answered? Banter? Answered? You
talk to me? Do you have any banter? Banter? All right, Karen,

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go ahead.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
My first thing is I thought about this before, but
I have very small ear canals, and so because of that, uh,
it actually has a tendency to just kind of clock
my ear my ears up and it's nothing like I
can hear in things like that, but there's just a
bunch of damn ill acts. So I've made it a

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part of my like my annual duty because like the
older I've been getting, the more diligent I have been
on self care. I make sure I get my mimigram
every month. I make sure I get my annual every month.
I make sure every year, I'm sorry, every year. I
make sure I get my eyes checked every year. And uh,
normally when the have to check my ears, you know, they.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Take their little things.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
She always tell me it's she cleans it, but she
can't actually clean it, like the like the people that
uh specify that that are specifically that's their job. So
I just put that on the things you know to
do yearly too. And I went this time and it
was really neat. I've had my ears cleaned out several
different ways, but I've I've had you know them them

(08:22):
dig utensils. I've had you know, water flush, but she
actually vack and cleaned my ears out. I mean it's
probably not back and clean, you know the technical term
for it, but.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Sh in my e I'm going.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
And it was just sucking out the ex in my
ears and she was just kept going down there seven
different times.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
It was just a really really neat experience.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
And so it feels good to have your ears clean
and things like that. And also as you get older,
you're hearing, uh might differ, and so this gives a
professional chance to look at my ears just like a
look at my eyes. So because I want to find
out what's going wrong ahead of time. You know, I
love my family, but you know a lot of old

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black folks wick to there on the death bed and
be like, well, I guess I go bitch, No when
sure's too high, No, I'm going find out, tell me
in advance and we can fix it down. So I
just thought that that was a really really just a neat,
a different, different experience of getting my ears clean clean,
you got a thing.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
It was, it just all me.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Only thing I really wrote down was that they have
these new commercials for artificial intelligence on phones.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
And it's all like, uh, like one of them has
Bella Ramsey in it.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
She's the girl from the Last of Us and little
Lady mormont on uh how the Game of Throngs and
she's talking to her agent. In this commercial, she's playing herself,
you know. So she's talking to her agent. Her agent
sent over an email with a script attached. She didn't
read the script. She was supposed to read the script.
There having lunch about the script, and then she's like, hey,

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can you summarize it for me? It's like it is
a romance with this doesn't and then she pretends to
know that it's like what the script is about. There's
another one where a woman like her daughter is talking
to her husband. Like the woman's husband like, so, I
guess their daughter is talking to her her dad, Oka,

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you know what I'm saying. And so the wife, the
older wife, is watching the daughter give her the dad
a birthday gift and she's like, oh shit, I'm the
mom and I'm the wife, and I fucking forgot that
my husband's birthday. So then she like uses Ai to
create a video montage with a sentimental song of a

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bunch of pictures of him and his daughter and them together,
and it's like this is the gift I gave you,
and sends it and then it walks away and it's like,
oh wow, look at AI saved the day.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
And I just got to say.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Both of these commercials just make the people look like
uncaring assholes don't give a fuck about friends, family, and work.
That's like, I mean, maybe that is the pitch. Maybe
that is how people feel. Maybe all of y'all are
fucking assholes, and y'all are gonna go buy this shit and.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Be like, well, I got to get the.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Phone to make it so that I actually don't ever
have to give a fuck about a person again.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
But those are both not appealing to me.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
It was more like a loss of society to watch
their commercial, like is this what the fuck we've become?
Is you just gonna artificial intelligence your way out of
human connection?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
That's some bullshit if you're into that.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
And also it's one of those things I think, for
particularly in America, it's go go, go, go, go go go,
So people are consistently going.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
They don't really take time off. We have the least
amount of vacation days.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
We need the least amount of vacation days on the
table for the amount of time we have this as
a populace.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
So people are already always busy.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
And they always are going, and so.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
This right here is like you're busy, you know, you're
super busy, you know, you doing some shit.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Here's something so you don't have to focus on the things.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I hear what you're trying to say. But these are
for both examples are shit you supposed to care about,
like it's not astand like if it was like automating
some shit you could give a fuck about, Like it
was like, hey, we will automatically unsubscribe you from every
political text message you get. You don't gotta do nothing,

(12:24):
you just you open up your fucking phone. It's like,
take me the fuck off this list. Oh thank you,
sirih you took care of that for you, for your boy,
that's fine, But this ship is like, oh, your kid
is having a recital. You couldn't you couldn't be bothered
to show up, and you couldn't even think about it.
Here's a here's an AI response that makes it sound

(12:47):
like you went to the recital and the right things
to say to him. That's such bullshit. If that's a
selling point, and this is it marks it marks a.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Clined societally.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
If that is a way to sell you anything.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
That I understand, Like for things that are like monotonous
and things like that, I understand but it's one of
those things.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
But yes, there's some things you.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Either just need to be like I bad, I forgot,
or either just take the time and the effort and
just do it the right way.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
But I'm not trying to give advice. I'm just saying
the fucking commercial suck.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I said there had to be some better shit y'all
could have came up with AI to do those.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Both of those examples are like, all it is is
you're a horrible person. Bella Ramsey is a horrible person
that doesn't even read the fucking sports agent does, but
then accepts the lunch and then lies to the agent
like she read the bullshit that that's not good. Bella
Ramsey is a dickhead. That wife is a piece of shit.
That's what the ad is for. The ad is you

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I'm a bad person. Those are bad ad.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I don't want to take the extra effort.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
What's next?

Speaker 1 (13:56):
They gonna have an ad where it's like, uh, you
cheating on your wife, but you need an alibi.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
They're gonna have an alibi call on your back.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, And then like it ends with this this tagline
from a song. It's like I'm a genius or whatever.
I'm like, no, you're a piece of shit. You're not
a good person. Don't sell me this bullshit. Who the
fuck does this? This is gonna Oh no, the police
at the door. They knocked my wife called her because
I was beating on her. Uh help me AI and

(14:26):
was like, oh, just tell them that she hit you first.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I'm a genius. Like, why is that a commercial?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
How do I notify everybody I haven't been using protection
and everybody's got herbies that had sex with me last year?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh? Shoot, this group email text to everybody, I'm a genius.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Some bullshit and I don't like it and I don't
support it, and I won't be using that shit.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Sounds like you are taking this as a personal slight
It is, yes, because if we.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Should all make it personal, what is it saying about us?
Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm sorry, yeah, that's a society. Yes, what is it
say saying?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
It's not so little commercial? It's like Apple or some ship.
What the fuck are you saying about your people that
buy your products?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
We know y'all don't give a fuck about your.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Family and your jobs and your loved ones and your
artistic endeavors.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Just make it up. Fuck them, You ai.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
AI to the rescue.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
My next random thought is I was coming home and
I was going across the bridge and uh, and it's
two lanes and it's like space on the side for
a third lane, but it's not actually a third lane.
It's like the side, you know, like I don't want
you you call it that the boundary of the road.
And so all of a sudden, you know, two cars

(15:55):
I was in there, I was upfront of cars beside me.
Did all of a sudden rolled up beside that third car,
And I was thinking, there is not a third lane,
but like once you go across the bridge, it does
kind of pick up and turn into another lane because
people are kind of coming off up up off the highway,
and they created another lane on the other side of highway.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
But as you go across the bridge, it's literally only
two lanes.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
And all of a sudden, three cars was going across
the street, and I slowed down because I was like,
are they gonna merge into the cobb side me, Like
I don't know what was happening. I'm just glad everybody
made it across the street safely. But it was just
wild how people that this person decided they was gonna
make themselves a Plaine.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
It was just weird.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
And I also learned that dark sauce and black dark
soy sauce and black soy sauce is the same. I
did not know that men Rogers was looking for dark
dark soy sauce. Uh.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
And the lady was like, uh, it's black. I was
like black.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I was like, oh, that must be the word that
y'all using the place of it. So I I learned
that that's that's a new thing that I learned.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
What what? What's so? These are just more like observations.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
So on the highway, somebody just went around and you
was like, that's I'm writing this down.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
We got to discuss this. Okay, yeah, this is my
random thoughts. You said they.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Already Listen, you understood that something I'm just trying to follow.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Normally I try to think of like a funny joke
or anecdote or.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Something we could like riff off of.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
This is more just like, man, I was riding down
the street and a car didn't it made it right?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
With no light on?

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Show with that what's up with that nigga ship? It
was random to me.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I didn't expect it to be three lanes going across
this goddamn bridge. It was wild and random, so I
thought I would share my random experience with y'all.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
No, you understood that, Simon. I mean, I didn't say jokes.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
You ain't saying you know, you ain't saying they had
to make connections here.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
No, No, they don't have connections.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
I just know some motherfucker somewhere is looking at my
face like rogers want her to shut up, and I'm like, no,
I just don't know where to hop into this double dutch.
She's doing a double dutch that I.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Don't even know.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I don't know, but that's my own beat. This is
all new to me. We didn't prepare this. It's not
rehears This isn't you know miss Mary and mac mac Max.
She's just doing some ship that she made up. And
I'm just over here trying to see if I can
can figure something out to contribute that doesn't like detract
from what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
So, third lane on the bridge, and what was the
next one?

Speaker 4 (18:44):
The next one the black and dark? Soy south the
difference between them, because me and.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Roy, are you why do you think there's a difference though.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Because when I when I accalated, I was like, do
y'all have dark soy sauce? And so I was looking
for other words dark soi sauce because that's what I
thought was going to be on a label. And when
she came back there, she was like this one. I
was like, oh black, so black and.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Dark the opposite of a difference.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
It's the same, yeah, yeah, but I didn't mean differences.
It's the same. But I didn't realize the words were
kind of interchangeable.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, which threw me off.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
So we was going up and down the lane just
to looking, just looking, and I guess she saw we
were back there looking.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
For one for a while. For you let me come
back and help these lost speedpers.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah. I was doing the same thing. We went to
like this Asian Vietnamese market because I wanted to. I
got to saw a YouTube commercial about making like this
onion or oyster sauce chicken, and I was like, you
know what, fuck it, I want to try and make it.
You know, I like doing stuff like that, And so
I went to go get the ingredients and they had

(19:50):
all the ingredients, but the way the lanes were broke
up at the store, and the way things are kind
of fould and you know, a lot of stuff was
not in English, and so I just couldn't find everything.
But I was determined to find as much as I could.
And yeah, stuff like dark soy sauce versus black soy sauce.
I was like, I don't know, and I'm sitting there

(20:13):
staring at it for five minutes and then a lady
comes and it's just like that's it, and I'm like, oh, okay,
So I guess I was close enough or it just
don't make that big of a difference. But she don't
give a fuck about my recipe. It's my recipe, and
she got bottles to sell five ninety nine. Nigga, get
the fuck out of my store. The thing that bothered
me was when I side a receipt on my bank,
you know, cause I still balance my check book. Basically,

(20:34):
when I saw the receipt on my bank, it said
like the name of the store and then oriental, And
I was like, is that like a they can say
it thing?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Because I thought we was off oriental. I thought we
was done saying that one.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Is that the name of the place something?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Something? Now I'm sure it's the name of the place,
but I'm just saying like it was on the receipt.
You know, I didn't even feel comfortable. I was like, oh,
I feel I said, yeah, it's not my fault. Obviously
you said it yourself. But it's like if I went
to a to a to a grocery store and it
was like, you know, Rods Ghetto Paradise or whatever on

(21:13):
my receipt, I'd be like, Eh, we calling, are we
still using that? Uh for?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Is that a thing? We're saying?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
We're not at the common parlance? So I don't I
didn't see it on the sign on the store door.
It's weird that it's on the receipt.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Now, hopefully nobody is scanning my of transaction.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Nobody going that your bank statement going.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Okay, Rod, what did you went to?

Speaker 4 (21:35):
No, no problem.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I'm just trying to come up ways to contribute everybody.
I don't want nobody looking at my face thing.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
And I don't give a fuck. I actually do care.
I'm just trying to figure it out.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
I just went through my thoughts and kept it trucking.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
You know, I know you would have, but they would
have rode in and said, I'm a horrible husband and
I'm secretly abusive.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
So just I'm trying to I'm trying to dodge the charges.
Go ahead, what's no problem.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
And like he said, it's got random thoughts. I am
all over the place.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
You know. We go to the Hornings game and it's
this it's this man who is an usher download he's
there like every game, and I think he's secretly sending
Klaus cousin because.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
We all starting to get another characters around us. I
have to say, sitting down low, to me is actually
better than sitting up there with the monitors and going
to the buffet, and even with the nicer seats, which
I did like those nice seats because my knees get
start hurting if we sit for too long, and the bleachers,

(22:33):
But it's much better being around people and stuff, and
I actually enjoy, uh, you know, watching the game with people.
People always end up talking to me for some reason,
but honestly, I don't mind. Like they've they've never It's
always either about some sports ship or they're being funny.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I have had any bad interactions.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Often it's team it's people from the other teams, and
so far they all been pretty good sports about stuff,
and so yeah, I've actually been enjoying sitting down there.
But you get to know some characters, such as Santa Claus,
the usher. There's also that black man that whenever that
we come in, they always have like a DJ playing

(23:17):
old school music, and there's a black man that's like
a janitor.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Oh he knows I'll just be over there with his.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Mop and he'd.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Be like, shout out to the DJ while he's sweeping.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah about He's always in the same spot. I don't
even know if he's sweeping. I don't think he's just
standing in that same spot every time.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Like I know, it's not a mess over there every
time you're just standing about the DJ boo like pick
up the pieces.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Hey, yeah, and you just see him over there too,
stepping with it broke me a the ps, like the us.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Hey, you don't know nothing about this boy. Y'all ain't
old nothing more about this.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
That's what he tell us every time we see him.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
It's fucking hilarious. It makes me crack up every single time.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
In the in the even the woman that is the
usher for our section, she knows us now, mostly because
of Karen on Shore, but she knows us now, she
don't even.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Ask to look at our tickets.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
She'll be like, oh, I know, I'll be showing the
tickets off scare like something gonna happen, But I'm gonna
get to my seat and in security gonna come and
be like, you don't.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Own these seats, you don't belong here.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
But yeah, so it's nice. I'm really enjoying going these games.
It was such a great uh, such a great investment, man.
You know, I really like I know some other people.
You know, y'all take vacations, y'all go into France, y'all.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
You know, whatever it is you w into. You know,
I'm more happy for you.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Maybe that I'll be doing that one year instead of
these tickets. But right now, Uh, these tickets are real
God sending and a reprieve to have something to look
forward to and some fun to get out the house,
you know what.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
And may I really do think this was one of
the best purchases, particularly doing the full year, because like
you said, it gives you a an excuse to get
out the house, an excuse to kind of break up
your monotony like in your day. It just gives you
something to look forward to whenever that time comes, and
particularly the game this week because it was like on

(25:08):
a Saturday in the afternoon, and so we got to
see a lot of kids because normally the games are
like later, which is like you know, six, seven, seven thirty,
so the games ain't getting uhing like nine thirty ten.
So you got smaller kids, you ain't trying to drag
them out there and have you know, depend on the
age of the kid trying to get home and getting traffic.
You know, it's Lake school night and all that shit.

(25:28):
So it just was just really really fun to see
all the troudren.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Then when you have it and the people that's sent
around us, like I said, they've been fun.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I talked to some I talked to some Bucks fans yesterday,
and then on the other side it was a dude
that was talking about, you know, the dark Rivers can't.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Coach, and I don't think you could coach.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
And then when we played the Pacers and I converted
over to the to the dark side where I think
Tyrese Haliburton, it's sorry now, and I just kept yelling
at every time he had the ball, like he's sorry,
he sucks, and I got some people around me those
in the hard They was like, I agree that he sucks,
and we started talking stuff too, and so it's just

(26:10):
been fun. It's been fun. I can't recommend it enough.
If it's something you're into like that, well I would. Actually,
I can only really recommend it for basketball only because
I think football is only eight games a year, and
I'm pretty sure you can't really get to know the
people around you for the for the pants that we sucked,

(26:31):
so most people are probably selling those tickets to other people,
so you're not gonna be around the same people, right.
I think the general tenor of football fans is just
much worse than NBA fans, Like NBA fans are typically
a little bit more fun, a little bit less racist,
a little bit more approachable. You don't have to worry
about getting a physical fight at a game all the time.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
So I can only recommend it for NBA.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I haven't done the other sports to know, like hockey
could be cool.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
I don't know how to.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Baseball could be cool, and I don't know, but I
can definitely tell you if you got like a NBA
team in your city, it's a good investment.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah it is, And also about the game last night.
It was a little girl behind us. This is why
I love the kids. That little girl loved to us
from Jannis. Every time Yannice got the ball, no matter
what was happening, that baby was like shoot.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I was like, baby, he ain't gonna shoot in this situation.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
She was like shoot, shoot, shoot Yonnie.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
She thought Jannis was literally listening to her. Yes, like
Y's gonna look up in the crowd and be like, oh,
what'd you say?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
The other thing that was funny too, is that about
kids that I love is that the kids don't mind
just rooting for both teams and the heartbeat. They just
want to have a fun time at the game.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
They like, somebody scored yay.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
I really hate, I really hate that adults lost that,
and I blame it on these fucking nerds, these fucking
loser as Michael Jordan dick sucking nerds. God damn rued
everything because it's like they don't even understand what the
point of watching sports is. If your team can't win
the championship like they like, it's such a loser.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Fucking.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Malecontent, negative ass like bitching attitude. I don't give a
fuck about a salary at a time like this, I
don't give a fuck about uh, how many years a
contract is man, just it's the game fun to watch
or not. I'm not doing statistical analysis of what percentage
of the shots are threes versus two's. I'm like, dunk

(28:29):
on that nigga or hit that jumper, pass that ball
or don't. That's what happens when you're at a game
and you're watching the game for me, yes, like I
so like, Uh, I really hate how miserable adults are
about sports because they know every fucking thing and they
hate everything, and all their teams are supposed to win championship.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
There's no reason to play.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
They simultaneously hate when their players get injured, but also
don't want a player to play a fucking game if
God forbids the stakes aren't the highest, right, Like, you
just not a play a game because it's your fucking job.
You get paid a lot of money and you're healthy
enough to do it, so why wouldn't you just play
all the games you can play? So they're mad when
the players are like you know, and they're like, we're

(29:10):
gonna sit this guy out because I mean, listen, our
team sucks.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Why would anyone.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Want to see this player play, even though they're individually great,
if they're not playing for a championship, fuck it, which
I hate.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
And then they do the other thing.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
With like someone like Joel and Bea who's chronically injured.
It is like Baud, I can't play back to back games.
I'm always fucked up. Then they get mad at him,
like your ladies, they bitch, get out there and get
the work slave. It's just misery, misery, misery, and I
refuse to let my sports be misery. So that's the
thing I like about the Hornets games. That's what I
like about going with you is that it just gets

(29:44):
to be a fun time forty one times a year,
and that's that's all I'm really in it for. I
just I wouldn't even watch it on TV if it
made me even a little bit miserable.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Agreed, agreed.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
And also I think with me, when I go to
the games, I like to see the other teams because
you know, particularly this year, with us going all the games,
we go literally get to see everybody because before we
kind of had to pick and choose, but now we're
gonna get to see everybody, So I'm excited about getting
to see everybody this year.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
And for me.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yannis did a dunk and I was like, ooh, okay,
here on the other team, and that dunk was nasty
and the whole arena erupted. It didn't matter what to
me what side you was on, you know, quote unquote.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I mean, that's why you want to be there so
you can see that shit. You're not rooting for it,
but if it happened, it's like, glad I got to
see it.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yes, glad, I'm glad I got to see it.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
And the last thing talk about the Hornets game. What's
hilarious to me is a lot of people they don't
know and understand the scheme of and I know a
lot of people do this, like going down to like.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
The lower levels just to sit.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
A lot of people they don't wait till like the
third quarter of possibly the fourth quarter. They like to
come down sometimes during halftime. I was like, that's a
terrible time because you know, everybody is basically going to
get something to eat and coming back. So when these
people come back, you're gonna be plopped in their seats,
you know.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
And have you never done that before? Yes?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
A half, yes, a half, but some people they don't
know how to coordinate it right.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Well, so there's a lot of moving parts.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Okay, they what you supposed to do, and well, I
don't know if they just not doing it or they
just got got slipping. Okay, you scope you sitting in
the two hundreds or wherever. You see some seats down
low that nobody sat in for the first half. What
you supposed to do is go get them seats at
halftime or right at the halftime, sit down there for

(31:38):
a little bit. I would not risk the rest of
the game, but third quarter, maybe a little bit of
the fourth quarter, and then you get go back to
your seat, so you leave. The problem is other people
be scoping them seats too, and so sometimes you go
down to take four seats with you and your homies,
but somebody else don't want to take two of them

(31:59):
seats them and they homie and so you got a
weird thing because none of y'all got claimed in them seats.
So you would have sat there in the first fucking half, dummy,
And you don't want to cause no commotion because then
you got the usher like, hey, now I gotta do
my fucking job.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
And get you out of here. So I think that's
really what's happened.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
I don't think it's just that they like don't understand
the etiquette.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
It's just that it's not coordinated.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
So like everybody ain't got the same you know, agenda
when they come down there, so you got people playing
musical chairs.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
But it's definitely it's definitely funny when people do that stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, because some dudes did that and I was like,
they was like, excuse it. I was like, oh, y'all
can just I was I was, I was game. I
was like, oh, y'all can just move down one. They
went down and say, oh, we're good. I was like,
long as you move down one because it was plenty.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
If the whole road was empty.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
I don't play that shit. So when I came back
and they was in our seats, I just went, those
are our seats. Now at that point, they gotta figure
out what they gonna do. I'm not gonna tell you
you can stay and leave. It ain't up to me.
Only thing I want you is out.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Of my seat, agreed, And that's what most people.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Dudes, don't be don't be fucking with me. And then
the rest of between y'all and God and the usher dogs.
So that's it.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
That's it for me, all right, cool? What that was
our banter? Plenty of news that get into.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Let me play some music and it will come right back,

(33:48):
all right, plenty of news get into. I didn't play
the at the election beat thing because it's like, you know,
it's kind of it's pretty much over. There's a lot
of political news that still sucks, but that part is over. Yes,
So I do a little bit at a time. It's
gonna be a lot of political blitz. I don't know
that I'm gonna get detailed into everything. Just for our

(34:10):
own sanity and yours listening. I'm sure y'all don't want
to have to do this. And also, I think a
big part of our job here, and a big part
of the Republican plan, is that they want to blitz us.
They want to shock us into numbness and apathy. But
also they want us to be like pie in the sky.

(34:33):
I mean, like the sky's falling. Everything is terrible, I
feel terrible. Part of this was like an emotional attack
on a lot of folks, and they want us constantly panicking, overreacting,
full of anxiety, paralyzed by terror and fear.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
They want us to fill those things. And I'm gonna
do my.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Damness to not give into any of that despair type bullshit.
It is what it is. Meaning I'm not gonna avoid reality.
I'm not gonna sit up here and blow smoke up
your ass. But I'm not one of these people that's
turning in my fucking survival card.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Like, well, I guess that's it.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I'm dead, Like I'm not giving up all my rights
and all my freedoms and ship like that, Like I refuse.
And I think when people panic and and like you say,
they going all these different directions and nothing gets done.
So you're you're technically just kind of just giving up.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, we're just gonna keep you all the breast of
the news and monitor the situation. That's that's all I
got for you.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yes, And I can't speak for nobody else, but I
know for me all Joks aside, I have not.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
And I don't know when I'm gonna go back. And
I know I'm gonna go back, but I don't know
when I'm gonna go back.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I haven't listened to not one political podcast. I haven't
really paid attention to I haven't listened to anything to
steal election. Like I have literally tapped out, like literally
tapped out. Like you said, I see things because they
kind of come across your your your your thing. But
I cannot uh a deep dive into that, like my my,

(35:59):
the way my mind mentally functions, Like when I said
I was tired and I need to break I met
that shit. I will come back, but as of right now,
probably have the ship Roger stelling me gonna be a
surprised because I tapped out.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
So, like I said, I'm not one of these people
that's gonna obsess over everything. But I want to keep
us abreast and stuff because I think it does. It's
a detriment to not know, agreed to not know at all.
It's just and it's not gonna protect or help you
to not know any of this shit.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
So we're just gonna try to sanitize it, man.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
I member.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
We used to do that yall's man segment during the
Trump administration. May we'll bring that back. We never had
music for that, y'all, man, but maybe we'll do that.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Do that.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I'm gonna delete all the.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Like old election election news because, like I don't give
a fuck about doctor Phil at this point like that,
but I want to talk about some other stuff. Democrat
National Committee Chairman Jamie Harrison is not expected to seek renomination,
so he'll probably be stepping down from the DN as
DNC chairman. I think it's gonna be interesting because a

(37:04):
lot of the reaction from Democrats and leftists and people
that vote Democrat and of course act people that are
so like woke that they don't vote Democrat because they're
just no no options good enough.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
And this happens every time Democrats lose.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
But there's something here that I think people should stop
and take a breath.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You lost about one, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's like when you lose a Super Bowl by one?
Do you break your team up? Like that's it for
the team? We done that? That was a damning because
to me, this is what the electoral college is designed
to do, is to make you feel like you got trounced,
like like to make you like, oh, you lost every

(37:53):
swing state. Yeah, but if we lost every swing state
within the margin of air, you lost every swing state
by you know, tens of thousands of votes, that's not unrecoverable.
That's not a burning shit to the ground start all
the way over from scratch. To me, the only way
you truly believe that is if you're like, democrats should

(38:14):
always win in a landslide in any year that they
don't is damning, and which is how people treat it,
by the.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Way, Yes, yes they do. And that's very, very, very dangerous.
And there these are the things. And I look at
people and I'm like, oh, sometimes I look at people, Oh,
you're not smart, because it's a difference between like you
saying you barely crossing the finish line and you was like, well,

(38:41):
we just didn't have enough. If we tweak what we have,
we can keep going, and then just saying this is
shit and blow it up, because every time you blow
it up, you have to rebuild. Like you have to rebuild,
which means you're gonna have to bring new people in,
which you mean they got to learn the process, which
means you have to go through a learning car like
it's a lot of shit that has to happen every
time you blow the shit up, it ain't. And then

(39:01):
you're gonna cry and complain about why ain't gone get done?
Because the veterans, the people didn't knew what the fuck
that they were doing. You got rid of their asses
because as far as you was concerned, y'all didn't go
in there and just mollywop.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
So fuck the whole process.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah, I think you know a lot of people giving
in to their fear and their anxieties. And also, for
the what it's worth, a lot of people just always
had certain rights with the Democratic Party and they're just
using confirmation bias to say whatever their issue is is
the issue that the party has right, which is why
a lot of the analysis is all over the place.

(39:37):
A lot of white people are on some you know
what cost us this election was dealing with all these
marginalized issues and activists and and.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Think tape groups and stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
So we don't like that, y'all wanted like us trying
to say we're including and protecting the rights of trans
people and talking about that hurt the party. Us Bringing
up reparations or health plans to help black men, that hurt.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
The party us.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Uh uh bring even us bringing up abortion was not
as helpful as it's supposed to be because it hurt people.
It hurts, it makes people leave, and it makes people
not want to vote. Uh you know, Palestine makes people
not want to vote, stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Uh so so you got those people.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Of course, then you have your pro Palestine people who
are like, that's what killed it, you know, is the
pro Palestine y'all weren't pro Palestine enough. Meanwhile, black people
and Jewish people are the only little marginalized groups that
showed up showed up for Democrats, So there would have
been a trade off. You would have lost some Jewish vote,

(40:43):
but no one wants to talk about that ugly trade off.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Which it is. You let me see who else had
this issue.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Oh, then you got the the people who think it's
about donors and rich people in corporate interest and stuff
like that, as if that's not what the other side
is completely given into, as if you can completely win
the election without that, and most importantly, let's say someone
did that, as if that is the reason that all

(41:13):
these other people set out, which I don't know that
that is. I think that's an issue people have with
the Democrats that they have. It's an issue they have
with politics in general. But it's an issue a lot
of people only really level at the feet of the Democrats.
But at the same time, they level it at the Democrats,
but they don't have any of the evidence to back

(41:33):
up that. There's this huge movement of people who are
just waiting for some party to be like, we will
not accept a single corporate donation, and then all of
a sudden, all these people a gonna be like, Yes,
I've been waiting on this my whole life. You know
how I set out every other fucking election before this.
Now I'm sitting in I think it's just pie in

(41:57):
the sky fan cast, and I think what we're ending
up with is everyone working backwards from whatever it is
they want it, and a lot of people just telling
them themselves. They are like, what you really wanted was
you tied all this black people shit? Yes, you tied
all this fucking woman shit, You tied all this motherfucking

(42:17):
diverse LGBTQ shit.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
You tired of it?

Speaker 1 (42:20):
And now here's a chance where everyone's looking at the
licking their wounds. They're feeling like they got beat in
the landslide, and you can go.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
What if we just stop fucking with these other minorities
and stuff?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
What do we just made it a party of working working,
white class people, white working class people. And then the
white people will come back and join our coalition, and
we won't need these.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Blacks and these women and all that.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
We won't really need them anymore because we'll have the
whites back, to which I have to say, this is
why I will always defend Michelle Obama, because this party
does not have the stomach to do that. That is
going low. That is going very That is going low.

(43:07):
That is what going low would really look like. Like
everyone think's going low. It's just like I call Trump
fat or whatever. You child, grow up, Hey, going low
is some shit. Like we looked at the trans people
and said, I'm sorry, but your rights is very inconvenient
because we losing certain people that we think will vote

(43:28):
art for us, but they get hung up on you
having rights, and so we want them Dave Chappelle's them,
Joe Rogan's we want them people back. So we not
talking about your rights no more. I'm not saying we're
legislating against your rights. I'm not saying right, I'm not
gonna call you out and demigod you. You can come

(43:48):
to the rally, but I will never support you. I
will never return a glance. I will never say a
single word in my campaign about and I don't know
if it's getting ready to happen. I'm saying that that's
what people. Some people want this, and their strategy is
if you do this, that will fix the party and
you'll get a certain group of people back. And this

(44:10):
is why I said, I go up from Michelle Obama
because you can't outload how low the other side is
willing to go. So you think, oh, if we stop
talking about trans groups, those voters will come back. I'm like,
if those voters set out an election where every commercial
with Charlemagne to God talking about trans prisoners getting surgery,

(44:34):
where Donald Trump was lying and saying they were transitioning
your child, and you come back home as they don't
give a fuck, Yeah, they're not coming back, and they're not.
And if they do give a fuck the other way
where they're like, I hate trans people, you can't out

(44:55):
hate the other side. You're gonna have to write some
of these motherfuckers off and find some new group or
some new thing. Because that's really the math. The math
is the math. It's not even a huge difference. Honestly, Like,
as the numbers come in, the votes are still being counted,
your popular voter is gonna end up very close, if

(45:18):
not her winning it, but it's gonna be closer than
we thought.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
But it's not Biden, which is the most ever.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
And I have a theory as to why Biden got
the most ever, And it's not just that he's a
white man. But I was thinking, like, what's the thing
that really brings us together? Because you know, other white
men have lost the white man. You know, we've watched
Al Gore lose. We've watched uh do cock is lose

(45:48):
like white man? No, I think about it.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
It's can I guess?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
What really brings us together is fucking up the economy
and and and and and like and like putting us
on like the brink of shit.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, I want to say, what brings us together? The
only thing I've really seen do it is Republicans winning.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yes, bigger because no, normally, like because I've I've been long,
I've been here long enough, y'all, this is how it goes.
We'll normally go Democrats. Like if we have a Democrat,
people take shit for granted. This that this is this
is how it goes. People take shit for granted. Everybody
kind of your rights and shit go up. You knowing
all this shit, everything's good, you voted Republican Union. All

(46:32):
of a sudden, the military budget goes up, money starts
going all these places. You want a lower tax, like
just stupid shit, tear ifs all this shit. All of
a sudden, economy's tanks, like like something fucks up in
the economy tanks. And then when the economy tanks, that's
when why people go, oh shit.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Y'all fucking up my money, I'm losing my house.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Whatever it is. Because with Obama we.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Had the housing collapse and all this shit.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Everybody go oh shit, everybody get scared of want a panic,
and then you put a Democrat back in office, and
then you go through the same thing again. And normally
the thing about Republicans, they've done studies and they always
tell us that, hey, if we would just keep putting
Democrats in office, we wouldn't have these dips. But because

(47:18):
America goes back and forth with the bullshit and it's
all on white people, if white people were consistent with
their votes, we wouldn't have this problem.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
I'm just saying it's the share depression. It's sad because
it ain't just white people. It ain't just them. You
know that small percentage of marginalized people that went a
little bit higher for Trump in twenty twenty or did
that go a little bit higher for Trump in twenty

(47:49):
twenty four, or those holdouts. They really have to find
out it's not it shouldn't be this way.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
I don't prefer to be this way.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
But I was just thinking, you know, I had a
week they really think about this shit, and I'm like,
only time I've really seen America as a coalition come
together on the left has been because they let shit
get so fucked up under Republicans that they went, oh
my god, we're in another war whatever, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
We don't have this right we used to have. Oh
my god.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
The economy as bad as you said, Like it really
is the only thing I've ever because at the end
of the day, people are selfish. We might be at
a point where four years ago Trump was so bad.
The pandemic thing was so bad, his reaction to it
was so bad, His many scandals in office were so bad.

(48:43):
I can't call that that was I can't really call
how much of that was just Trump and how much
of that was just like shit is going bad.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Someone else, come do it, you know, because.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Obviously for a lot of us, it was like Jesus Christ,
this is terrible, like Charlottesville and all this shit. But
I don't know that that moved this group of people
that set this election out. I don't know that that
moved this group of people that voted for Joe Biden
but didn't vote for Kamala Harrison. I don't know what
moved them for sure. And I'm and I'm not arrogant

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enough to assign one single thing to all of them.
The only the only thing I'm willing to assign to
all of them is that something about a black woman was.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Too much for them.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
And I don't think Kamala Harris, I mean black woman.
She didn't run as black women. She ran as Kamala
Harris President for everybody, but some about that idea they
could not get over. And every analysis since then has
been trying to, uh, you know, wallpaper over that very
obvious fucking point into like what did the Democrats do wrong?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Did they really do wrong?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Because she she she polled at the same numbers as body,
and she had turned out very similar to very close
to bout in Like is it was it a she
did something wrong. Or are we supposed to look the
electoral college results and go this was a landslide, America
does not want her? Or can we be honest and
be like America's seems to have some issues when it's

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a black woman at top of that tick, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
But anyway, so I didn't mean to getting that huge tangent.
But let's see.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Getting rid of some of the old stuff, get to
some of the Oh, these these are kindly gonna be
the stories that are the most eye rolling, is okay.
Some in the US farm industry are alarmed by Trump's
embrace of RFK.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
JR and tariffs.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
He won farm country by wide margins in this month's election,
with rural voters helping fuel his return to the White House,
but some farmers, economists, analysts, and others in the agriculture
industry are voicing alarm over Trump's plans that could disrupt
America's one point five trillion dollar food industry.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
I hope y'all get with y'all want it, because he
can cut y'all fund And he not particularly if you
not wanted, if you ain't some of the big boys,
he don't give a fuck about d these these acres
of land that you got in tien buks fucking to nowhere.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
He don't care about y'all.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Y'all getting ready to pay and getting ready to lose
y'all farm, and they gonna take everything away.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Trump moved this past week to put RFK Jr. In
charge of the Department of Health and Human Services, which
includes the FDA, a nomination that requires confirmation by the
US Senate. And the thing that's been floating around is
you get all these whispered like these these journalists keep
reporting like privately Republicans are saying that they will not

(51:37):
confirm these choices.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
That Trump is making publicly, they're sucking his dick.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Oh yeah, so I don't actually give a fuck what
the private reports are. We saw this happen so many
times in his administration, where they were all the quote
unquote decent Republicans were constantly privately shocked and outraged Paul
and then they would go in there and his ship
would pass pretty much unanimously, maybe a two holdouts at most,

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even many times people that people hold up as the
Republicans who were anti Trump were voting with him.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
The vast majority of the.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Time agreed, agreed, That's why I don't want to hear that.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
I don't give a fuck about what you What do
you do publicly, what do you do to my face?
What you do behind the scenes is irrelevant. If you
stand here in front of my everybody, all these names,
y'all flown around. Now, people gonna get gonna get up
there with no problem. Ain't nobody gonna protest but the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
One thing I did think was funny, though, is there's
a picture of Trump and his uh Elon Musk and
his sons and shit, uh and uh rfk Jr.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
On the plane.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
And they're on I guess you know, Trump forced one
or whatever the fuck.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
And they're uh eating McDonald's. That's his favorite food, right.
But r k Jr.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Is mister health God, he's gonna change what the kids eat.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
He calls that stuff poison, all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
And so this is the picture of them on the
plane together, you know, eating this this McDonald's, Uh, and
R k Jr. Looks like a he's never held McDonald's
in his life.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
He looked like the models doing them.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
No, he don't. He looks like he's gonna throw up.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
I mean, yes, as far as far as they look
like they don't ever eat the ship.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
He looks like he doesn't eat that shit.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
No, those people's bodies look like they don't eat this ship. Yes,
his fucking face looks disgusting. He looks like the smell
of McDonald's makes him want a vomit. But he gotta
pretend that he's eating this ship. It's a photo op.
It's you know, it's it's it's I don't know who knows.
They probably got It's like, I g you gotta put
underneath it.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
It's an ad.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
But you got Mike Johnson on there, Elon Musk, one
of them Trump boys, like the sons Donald Trump and
then and they're all smiling except for RFK Jr. Who
looks like he just got busted cheating on his girl again, Like, oh, no,
one's supposed to see me with this McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
We're sposed to see cheat cheating.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
And the thing that I think is interesting about this picture, uh,
is one thing Donald Trump gonna do after you hold
yourself out.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
He gonna make sure the world know that he know
you his bitch. Yes, that's what that's what he do.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
It's not that he won't welcome you into the fold
and make you a useful idiot. You know, it's not
that unless you're black, it's not that. It's that he
needs you to know that the world.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Knows you his bitch. And that's what making rf k Jr.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
This is like calling uh that one guy's wife ugly
taed something tad cruiz.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
It's like calling his wife ugly and the being like, yeah,
you can.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Get in the cabinet with your ugly ass bitch ass wife,
your bitch, and everybody's like Jesus, you're still working for him.
It's like I know I'm his bitch, and it's like, Okay,
r k Jr.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Is McDonald's. That's his You my bitch, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (55:27):
The little Marco Rubios as he calls him, like he
called the man little. Then he give him a cabinet position,
you know, sleepy being Carson. Then he go be in
charge of the hut.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
That's this is his.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
You, my bitch, got your bitch, look in the camera, smile,
that's right, you, my bitch.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Bitch. Hold that Coca cola. U turn it towards the camera.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
You could throw it in the trash at them, but
the picture need to let the world know.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
He he's mine.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yes, And I think that's what's so interesting about that,
okay Jr. Picture And of course, of course you know,
the fucking around and found out.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Of it all is what they called that, Shott and
Freud or whatever.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
I think I'm gonna have that, y'all think I'm gonna
have that for at least four years.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Of me.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Trying my best not to laugh moniacally on this microphone
that people having buyers regret yep, because I'm I knew.
I don't know how you didn't know. Yes, I'm not
accepting you didn't know as an excuse.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
It's one of those things where you got cars here
in America. If you have a car that has a
lot of problems sometimes and that we call them like limit,
Like you got a limit of a car, and so
you know, we going, ay, that car is a limit,
don't buy it, and they're gonna, but I want to
and they're gonna. Then you gave them like a list
of ship that's wrong with it, and the manufacturer calls,
you know, and and all this ship that's wrong with it,

(56:57):
and they go, no, but I still want this fuck
the best car.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
And you're gonna well, it won't get you where you need.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Like you you're kind of for one of them, and
the person that's like, fuck it, I want the car.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
And after while you go sure you had the car.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
And then they broke down the side of the highway
somewhere where you roll past.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Demmy, y'all you got.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
All I'm gonna do is just look and keep driving, baby,
because that's the car.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
You won't it.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
It's even worse because we all got to be in
the same car, so it's even worse. I'm not gonna
be driving by like this doesn't bother me. It's not
my life. I because I you know what, it wouldn't
bother me if I told you, hey, that.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Car is a limit, you went fuck you.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I'm picking the car I want to and I saw
you on the side of the highway. I'm like, well,
he made a bad decision. I keep riding, no problem.
People make bad decisions all the time.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
It's the fact that we're in this uber together, my
brother and I don't have it in me to not
read you for filth.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
As the fucking radiator starts smoking on the highway, I
am to not go out. I'm not that big of
a person. You know what I'm saying. I don't have
the turn the other cheapness in me to be like, well, hey,
we all thought this car, we're all in the car together.
Now we have to make this work. What what help

(58:16):
would it be for me to start being upset? My
temper is not gonna fix the car any faster. That's right,
those things are true. But I also don't give a
fuck about that. No more so when I read this
shit and it's like they worried about the terrorsts fucking
up the price of tomatoes. Yeah, that's what we was
worried about too. That's why we didn't vote for his ass.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
But you know, I hope you and your fucking tomatoes
go out of business. Bitch.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
I'll put cucumbers on a sandwich and forgot to I'll
fucking grow my own whatever.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
I gotta do.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
And if I got to do, I just got.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Us go and survival mode. I gotta figure out how
I'm gonna pay for my tomatoes.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
You fucked up, right.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
And so the next one is this Muslims who voted
for Trump, upset.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
By his pro his real cabinet picks.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
The fuck they thought was gonna happen and see not
time fine, this not to be angry. This is the
bullshit that make me mad.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Aut that made me mad about the whole Palestine Israel thing.
It's like, Okay, y'all know neither Canada is perfect, but
y'all do know he is gonna make it worse, like
y'all do know. He is gonna make it worse like
like you do understand this. He gonna look at Benjamin
and y'all who and and say you got the green light, motherfucker,

(59:30):
like like you know, and now you know, y'all won't
turn around like I'm crazy when I told you that
he didn't give a fuck in the first place. And
you know, and and for some people, and and and
I don't care when nobody says. I actually think that,
in my opinion, a lot of that ship.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
There are some.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
People that that was really heavily this was their one
button issue. But I think a lot of that was
generated by them robots in their eyes and ship.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
And the reason why is.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Because after the election, a lot of these pet peeve
issues drop, Like I'm coming, nobody to say, like a
lot of these pet peeve issues they fucking disappear, right line.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Yes, Why aren't they at the UFC fight where Trump
showed up last night? Why aren't y'all outside where the
signs at.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I mean this the president elect, This man got the
power of the future. Don't go on TV crying about
Joe Biden. Do something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
It's too late. It's too late. The leverage he had
was winning the election.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
That was all the leverage that he was gonna have
to be able to do something and be like, you
know what, the people chose me for four more years,
or Kamala and you know what, dog were cutting off
the weapons supplies we caught. We need to see fire today,
cause you can't run me up against the clock like
you've been doing when you kept wilding out to November

(01:00:52):
hoping I would lose the election.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Well I didn't want to lose, bitch, Do what the
fuck I say? Or you're cut off. You can't do
that now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
And last time I checked, Donald Trump called the ship,
said they need to turn it into glass, said it
would be front property. He don't give a fuck. He
don't give a fuck, So pardon me as I have to.
I can't have any other response to this, Like I said,
you've made me cold.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
I don't if you're a Muslim that voted for Trump,
how that's done.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
That's like if one of these niggas, and you know
what I'm gonna do it, if one of these.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Coons come out here in the next couple of months
and be like, you know, I'm Tim's gutten.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
I can't believe Donald Trump didn't put me as a cabinet.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Over hood because I did so much for him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
I'ma be like, you know, and I hate just said
we're not a racist country, but that was a racist thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
No black people got a position.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I'm gonna be like, suck my dick, you coon lip, motherfucker,
because you know this, okay, you knew that when you
was shining them gumbs up and going on tour for him,
you were going on tour for racism. And y'all love
to poor. This racism happened to me, not the rest
of you blacks, to me and me. Only can the

(01:02:14):
blacks come out where's black lives matter?

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
For this?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
That's what's gonna happen. And I'm not gonna feel.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Sorry for them. So in case you're thinking, well, y'all
just feel this way because y'all not Muslim wrong, because
when it's black people, I'm gonna be the same energy.
If you've voted for Trump and they write one of
these dumb ass articles, I'm a black Mary for Trump
and I thought he was gonna do this. But I'm
in prison, good bitch, and enjoy jail. That's the fuck

(01:02:41):
you should get because you sent a lot of us
with that there with you when you absconded from the community,
when you decided that you don't need to have no
responsibility to voting booth. So no, I don't feel bad
for this, these motherfuckers, and uh doubt this was why
I always thought it was a dumb plan. And you
have to mitigate harm, and you failed the test of

(01:03:04):
how to mitigate harm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
I agreed, I agreed.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
And you know, it's just one of my things where
you're thinking of all these groups that are gonna be affected.
Like you said, it's a percentage that went up across
the board for him, and so for a lot of
these groups, you're like, hey, dog, he gonna pass.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Shit is gonna directly impact you, And so I don't
want to hear it. I just don't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
I told him, we said it the whole time. I remember,
like I said, we had people right into the show.
I had I remember someone on Twitter like, how can
you support this? And I said, because the other choice
is Trump?

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Right, grow up, grow up? We think this is cat
and is everything bitch with This is real life. What's
wrong with y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
That's an insane thing that I'm the bad guy because
I'm like, if we have a choice between a knife
and a bullet, we should probably go at the knife.
I'd rather get I'd rather get get, you know, cut
on the arm and than shot through the heart.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Yeah, but I mean, how can you even support one
of them? One of them is coming right, y'all don't
have a choice.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
I'm gonna get hit by one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
So yeah, it was just you know, anyway, this I
guess y'all found out. But if you're writing these articles
expecting sympathy, Nope, And when they get to the white people,
oh boy, oh boy, because it's coming for the whites
that farm ship just to be them terrorists.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
That's the beginning. That's just the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
I don't even know how to tell y'all were probably
gonna have some people stop listening to the show. I'm
just gonna let you know because person but the first
time they write about this union voted for Trump, Yes, and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
All their jobs gotta set to Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I'm sorry right because them people, because the thing is
the head of one of the union's I think team Masters,
not mistaken teamsters.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Teamsters.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Was like, although he is team Mas, yes, more like
team Masses yes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Like he was like, I'm going for Trump, like, but
they were individual parts.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
It was like, no, that don't make no sense.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
This nigga is anti unions, like the whole party is
anti unions.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, so yep uh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
You know all y'all at got mad because Michelle Obama
sauta that we had a childhood obesity crisis and was like,
maybe we take some of the fucking sugar and the
kool aid out of the goddamn vending machines and y'all lost.
Y'all goddamn mins, like not only feed my kid pork
bacon straight to the veins now, because no black woman's

(01:05:43):
gonna tell me what I can do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Is out here, like, listen, I've been looking at the
young boys testosterone and they balls are not producing enough sperm.
I'm taking the seed and the nut oils out of
the rotation. We offer that and y'all like, thank you
out for mail.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
That's what we need. I'm gonna go tear my balls
on the mountain side. Thank you. We appreciate your efforts
so much.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
This is not the then they stayed at all, you know,
at least uh well, he shows his arms, he has
no shirt on it all. I'm not offended at all,
not even a little bit with his cheating ass. You know,
like y'all, the double standards is coming and I'm gonna
laugh when motherfuckers are like my child.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Was not able to eat pizza to day. I'm like,
it's not funny.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
People over time get all fucked up and screwed up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Yeah. Yeah, like like a lot of people didn't don't
think this shit gonna impact them. But when they started
passing the body, these fucked up ass laws and everybody
go like, oh shit, I ain't think it's gonna be me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Well, bitch was. He gave a laungingst of shit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
He was like, I'm coming for everybody's neck and you
ain't believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
And this is the last one because I'm not gonna
do all the story is every day because I'm not
going crazy. And I'm obviously gonna get riled up every
time we do this segment for the next four years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
And I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
I don't want to go crazy, But I just thought
this was funny. Have you heard about the blue bracelets?
Blue bracelets, the brew lace, the bru blue bracelet is
a symbol that democratic women are gonna wear, probably white
All right, let's just go. Let's go with the truth.

(01:07:29):
It's mostly it's white women. It's white women, y'all. Is
that it is like the safty pins. Yeah, we did
this before, so they gonna wear a blue bracelet to
let you know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
I'm cool. I'm not like the other whites. Just need
to let you know. Yeah we lost, we didn't come through.
The Roe v.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Wade thing wasn't just enough. It made some movement, but
not enough movement. But I'm not like these other white ladies.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
I'm down.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Mm hmmm, I don't. I don't care about any of
that bush shit. And yeah, like I said, y'all like
to pull shit out. The thing that frustrates me about
this and and I think that this election is gonna
and people gonna people are responding very, very differently this
time because for a lot of people that were bullshitting before,

(01:08:18):
they wouldn't bullshitting this time, and so particularly since uh
com of the loss, they come up with that same energy.
So I would not be surprised people, I get the
fuck out here. We don't care. What we needed for
you to do was show up to the post and vote.
Doing shit after he's elected is irrelevant because he don't
give a fuck. You don't give fuck about your protests
and give fucking about your march. Well, you know what
he gonna tell the police go out there and gun

(01:08:39):
them down. He does not give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
I don't think it's gonna work, but I do appreciate
the effort every time because I definitely understand the need
to want to be like, hey, I'm not with them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
I don't agree with that shit they fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
And the reason I like it is like, say, you
on the train, you're on the bus. You know you
left your wallet at home something like that, you had
the hornets game. I'm looking for these blue verses. Okay,
let me hold twenty dollars, you know, like, ma'am, come

(01:09:23):
on now, y'all know what y'all did to the country.
Y'all part of the reason I don't got the twenty
let me hold some, you know, reason why I feel
like all these people with the blue versus to keep
like twenty dollars in cash on them too, Like let's
just complete the circle, like just basically be like an
atm you know, cause I'm not gonna ask for y'all
to march. Don't put the pink pussy hat leave you

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can leave them back in the closet with the mothballs
that they took accumulated over the years. I don't really
need all that performance, but occasionally I do need five
dollars cash to pay for parking. You know, you have
a buy a hot dog. You be like, ah shit,
I'm two dollars short. Look around in the line behind you,

(01:10:08):
any blue bracelets, maybe you maybe you got money plus
the tip. Now I don't know, you know, pay it
forward as they say. You see me in line ahead
of you at the Chick fil A, go ahead and
take that off of me, you know what I mean.
Or you see me behind you at the Chick fil
A and the drive through, go ahead and take that
off of me. Just go ahead and do that for me,
So y'all appreciate the blue bracelets. I'm not gonna get

(01:10:30):
on them too hard. It's just more everybody's mad, and
so we always forget when we're mad that there are
legitimately good people on the other side that feel terrible
that took an l two. You know, I don't and
I don't you know, there's a deeper philosophical conversation that
we may work our way up to one day, because

(01:10:51):
I don't know that I have all the words for it,
that I'm not prepared to really say it all flat out,
but but you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Fuck it, Let's just do it now. They won't have
to do it later.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
A big part of this backlash that everyone's talking about
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Is kind of the way a certain type of.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Opportunists saw twenty sixteen and the death of George Floyd.
By by that, I mean they were I think accidentally.
I don't think they meant to do this. They accidentally
unified groups that typically would not align with each other

(01:11:46):
because of their hatred of each other. But I think
they accidentally unified them behind this idea of I just
don't like being CHASTI being cajole, being mocked, being picked on,
being the aggression of being put in my place or whatever,

(01:12:14):
And there's a human element to all this shit that
you know, we've talked about on this show, I think
more than most shows that talk about these topics. One
of the through lines of the Black Altips has been
we have constantly been like, everyone's still a person, and
so whether you wrote some hierarchy and some pyramid, whether
you have like ideas of how community should work, there's

(01:12:37):
only a certain amount of cajoling any human being can take.
It's not about being right at that point. And I
think social media, especially exacerbated this problem to the nth
degree because the way we communicate with each other on there,
it is rewarded by inflammatory reading this like it is,

(01:13:01):
It is rewarded.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
By over the loudness.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
And you know, I remember there was a story. We
covered this topic many times. But I've always said, like,
the tools of the Internet and social media are the
same tools that if you wrote up a you read
a clinical book about a narcissist, they're the same tools. Yeah,
flying monkey is harassment, shunning, you know, gaslighting, It's all

(01:13:28):
the same, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
And the thing that I've always pointed out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Is that most people don't care that it is that
way unless it is happening to a person they like. Right, So,
if you harass somebody I like, that's bad. If you
harass somebody I don't like, that's actually good. But at
the end of the day, both.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Both things are harassment.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
If I dock somebody I disagree with, that's that's to me,
that is still bad. And if you docks me, that
is all so bad, like because we didn't have a
good exchange of ideas because we can't agree on something.
And I know, because these are behaviors, I wouldn't necessarily
participate in it. It would have to be so personal,

(01:14:15):
it would have to be very, very personal. And I'm
not saying these are This is less of a judgment
of any individual. I'm just talking about the environment that
we are having these quote unquote discussions.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
You're right on social media, right, And I think.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
What happened with people like say a Joe Rogan, who
did not start off as a red pill conservative, but
there's a thing that did happen where there was content
being made out of bad faith aggregation of these people's work.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Comedians.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Everyone goes to comedians and goes, why the fucking comedians
so fucking anti this and anti that, like comedians are divided.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Now you got the I the pro.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Liberal ideas comedians, and then you have the like closet
to hashtag very loud conservative ideas in comedy. And that's
not a thing that always existed. It's not a thing
that was always pronounced. There was a time when, honestly,
there were a lot of comedians you couldn't tell their
political leanings through their comedy because a they it was

(01:15:24):
supposed to be a performance, and so they could be
playing a character.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
They could just this is the job is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
I just thought this was funny. But the thing that
really fucked that up was kind of like how Tumblr
started and Tumblr and social media.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
They take like a.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Comedian's stand up that he was performing in a small
club venue, working things out, joke, not even finish yet,
and they take it and they be like, in print,
not audio, not video. So and so said this, and
they presented to you like it was a ted talk,
like like Daniel Tosh got on the stage.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
And said I hate gay people and he meant it and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
It was no joke, and then he walked off and
everybody was like, Wow, what an interesting moment, what an
interesting speech.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
He gave tonight. But that's not what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
If you've ever been in a comedy club, people say
all conds outland to shit and say, dude, you could
take our show and type it down and find something
and be like, wow, we took guests the race and
apparently this show is a racist piece of shit, right,
and someone could roll with that that knows nothing about
our show and be.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Like, that's who the blackout tips is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
I hate them, and so comedians I think was honestly
one of the first pillars to fall because a lot
of them took you know, and I mean they're human.
Once again, they're human. They're only designed for a certain
amount of ridicule, mocking whatever. They're not all the high
level philosopher shit they claim to be. And so you

(01:16:54):
keep picking on me, you keep taking me out of context,
you keep I'm in a room full of people laughing.
Eventually they start becoming this reactionary group of people that
claim it's about free speech. It's not, but really it's
more about the changing landscape of what the environment that
they put their commercialized speech. Then it's a reaction to

(01:17:15):
that where they're like, I don't like the way y'all
are making me feel so now I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Make you feel bad. Yeah, And that's how you get
a Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Chappelle doing shit about trans people for years, which is
a topic he never touched on, never really seem to
give a fuck about in the first place, not that
he was woke or even progressive on ideas of gender
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
But like he's stuck there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
His mind can't move on to just I'm just gonna
do it hour comedy that really got shit to do
with this, right, Like, this shit don't really affect my life.
I'm not even having these problems in real life. When
I go places, everyone still greets me and treats me well.
All the communitians still fuck with me. Why am I
even obsessed with this?

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Trans people aren't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Even by, Like they don't even give a fuck at
this point, But the Internet gives a fuck, and their
activist give a fuck. Social media people that want content
give a fuck, and he's feeding into it because his
ego gives a fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Right, Yes, So, Dave Chappelle's a guy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
That I think ten fifteen years ago people would have
put on the side of I wouldn't say liberal, but
on the side of like, you know, wasn't a good
one good person like Funny does. His comedy might offend
you a little bit, but for the most part, seemed
to be on our side.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Yeah, he's doing his job, and the job was to
tell jokes and make you laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Right, But over the last fifteen years or so, it's
become an economy of making sure people aren't on your side,
like to be like, this person's not where they need
to be one hundred percent of time, Therefore that the enemy.
Therefore we are harassing them. We're doggy. I've always pushed
against this idea on our show. I think it was

(01:18:55):
subconscious for me. I'm only crystallizing it now and awaken
this election. But I'm like, maybe this is why. I'm like,
why the fuck are we going in on Chris Pratt?

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
What right? What is that about? Why are you going
in on Taylor Swift?

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Like there's at some point there's a need inside of
you that is not being fed, so you're making up shit,
like you're you're turning nothing into something. So it's like
when people go silence is complicity, and I'm like, but
it's really not. Though it's really not, because sometimes silence
is I don't know what the fuck is happening, and
I need to shut the fuck up and be in

(01:19:26):
my lane.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Right and staying in your lane. Ain't nothing wrong with
that way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
More people need to do that shit, Yes, but seeing
people kind of this crystallized after the election because I'm
trying to make sense of the way people lined up,
especially when you look at the demographics that shifted to
the right. And some of that shift is just other
people staying home, but some of that shift is a shift,

(01:19:53):
like because you can say, well, people stay home. If
those motherfuckers stay home, that's a shift, my nigga. That's
a shift from reason you were voting for something to
now you're not voting. That also counts as a shift
to me. Yes, I can't. I can't say it was
because you're so progressive. No, you didn't vote and you
knew what that was on the tab and you said

(01:20:14):
that's fine, looked at the bill, said that's cool, y'all
go pay that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
So him, Dave Chappelle.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Joe Rogan, who at one point was a Democrat, at
least by his own words, but then once he got
into the politics side of.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
It, it was from a lens of the comedy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
It was like, my friends who are comedians, they are
now having their speech policed and they're being the worst
things are being said about them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Were just fucking comedy comedians.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
We're not supposed to have all this weight of the
world on our shoulders. And this is before he had
any of his platform was as big as it is now, right,
But for years and years and years of him having
a platform, at this point it is he's been redpiled.
He's now mister like Tony Hinchcliff was just saying jokes

(01:21:09):
when he called Puerto Rico trad what's the problem. That's
my friend, Dave Chappelle, come on the show after every
one of your specials about trans people, you know, bring
on experts that are anti science, anti vacs, all this stuff, right,
And I remember thinking to myself, like Joe Rogan has
called made jokes about the N word on this show. Now,

(01:21:32):
no black people's ever there when he does it, but
he's done it, and you would think there'd be certain
black people that are like, I'm not doing this fucking
show like this dude makes fun of my blackness when
I ain't there, So why the fuck am I gonna hop?

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
On his show to make it seem like that shit
is cool.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Fuck him, or when I do go on this show,
I'm gonna bring it up and be like, Hey, what
was up with them fucking N word jokes?

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Dude? I thought you was cooler than that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
But it don't come up up right because it show's
not actually confrontational.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
His show's about actually finding common ground. His show is
about something people pack themselves on the back for all
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
But I see it now in hindsight, and I'm like, oh, I.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
See his shows about having the conversation, and we don't
really have conversations. On the other side, now, we like
the illusion of a conversation, we really do. We pat
ourselves on the back for the illusion of a conversation,

(01:22:39):
like the idea that everyone comes here, we actually have
the same ideas, we align point for point, we agree
on everything, and then we pat ourselves on the back like,
look at us.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
We fucking did it, guys, we did it. We solved everything.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
But over there, because of how strict it's will come
over here, that is now the default place where you
can go and be wrong. Yes, but you can go
and fish yourself out without thisas you can go and
try to like figure out, like how should I feel
about this?

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
What is this really mean?

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
And it would be fine if you went over there
and it was really just an open minded free fall.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
But it's the illusion of an open minded free fall.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Because what a certain type of red pill, type of
grifter realizes, Oh the dummies coming over here and they're
looking for answer, Yes they are. And on the other side,
when they ask those dumb ass questions, they get hit
with Google is free.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
I will not do labor, but I already said you
should know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
This, yes, and people are human, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Like I get it, I get it, y'all, but particularly online,
you know, it's very hard to have those conversations. But
that's one thing about the left. The left is very
the very that like to punish, even though they claim
it's on to else.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
But we love to punish very We like I said,
we always have the social death penalty. We don't have
we're against the death penalty, but we're for the social
death penalty. Motherfucker fuck up one time. We don't ever
want them. There's no path to forgiveness of coming back.
It is basically like fuck you, fuck you forever you apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Apology not good enough. Fuck, you shouldn't have did it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Get a time machine, bitch, go back to when you
did it, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
That's the solution, right And also for.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Me when I say we're very punishing and I've seen
it done, I've been on the internet long enough and
I've seen it done over and over and over again.
It's one of these things, and it goes across the board.
And I know we have people that are listening that
are highly educated, but some of it is them a
percentage because you know, you talk over people's heads.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
You don't like to break down shit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
You always act like y'all niggas is dummies and y'all
have degrees like me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
That's definitely a part of it, But that's not the
whole part. I don't think it's I don't think it's
that because there's a certain way they talk over there
that is also over your head. So like just because

(01:25:17):
like they have their own people that are quote unquote
these wacky academics, you know, that's that's always a funny thing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
That's so funny. They're like, I'm anti vaccine. Now I
have three.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
PhDs, and I'm this that and the other and they
use a bunch of big ass words that you don't
understand and I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Understand, and they got their own coded language. You know.
It's so I don't think it is.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
I don't think the issue is even the language. It
is the attitude, which is for them, they want you
to learn, they want you to come over there, and
our side is very much like, fuck, go learn on
your own and come back when you're ready to fucking
have a conversation. And their side is like, oh, you

(01:25:59):
don't know about RNA structured decomposition, Well, let me tell you.
Here's a link to this blog, here's a thing I wrote,
let me give a conversation, let's talk for three hours
on Joe Rogan Show about it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
And we're very much not like that on our side.

Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
I agree, and that's my point.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
It's like, it's okay that you do this, but also,
you know, you also need to take the time to
break things down versus just kind of just smacking people
in the face out of their ignorance.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Because the thing is, when.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
Words change and terms change, and.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
These new phrases and shit came up there, most of
y'all just made up and found out three seconds ago.
I found out ten seconds later and all of a sudden,
I'm a fucking idiot because I hadn't processed it completely yet.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
It's the difference between like, oh you don't know, let
me tell you, and oh, you don't know, get the
fuck out of here, right. And I think it's out
of protection because keep in mind, the people on the
left that we're talking about, we're marginalized people. Where the
people that you know, we got some stakes in this.
It's not just an academic discussion for us, agreed. So

(01:27:04):
if you come to me as a black person and go, well,
I think I don't think cops are doing anything wrong,
there's a protection I'm sending out when I'm like, get
the fuck away from me. Like it's not just as
simple as like I guess I'm just an asshole, but
it's like, by necessity, it becomes a rough goal for
a lot of people. And then when you add in

(01:27:24):
the left wing grifter types who really make a lot
of content and money off of this attitude of look
at how I am shitting on these people, Okay, Like
it's not just them, Like it's part of their signaling
is like I told this white bitch this. I told this,

(01:27:44):
I said, listen, white man, you sis gendered. There is
something to that to where it's not just I'm saying
it to protect myself, but I'm saying it so that
you see me saying it, so that you click on
my video and not that next video.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
You know what I mean, It's part of what.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
I'm selling as well. And years of this, Yeah, it
adds up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Yeah, it erodes and and and the thing is, you know,
because it's it's a coalition, it's a collection of people
over here, and so with that, you're gonna have people
from different economic statuses, financial status and things like that.
And the thing is, you know, you have to continue
to teach people, continue to educate people, and not shun them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Nobody's asking you individually.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
To do it, but as a collective we have to
because like just said, the conversations got to be had.
We quote unquote claiming we had a conversation, but we're
not really having the conversations. All we're saying is you
don't know. This whole cis you don't know. Get the
fuck out my face.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
But also so that's like that's the online component of it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Agreed.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
So because like I'm trying to make sense of it,
and I'm like, how the fuck did Dave Chappelle align
with conservative white people that definitely have like white premises
leanings like this, like that Joe Rogan thing does not
just start and start with trans people. There's a bunch
of fucked up shit they got to say about a

(01:29:09):
lot of different types of people. And I'm not saying
he overtly says it, but just he will have some
money on this show that it's like, oh ya, I'm uh,
that person's white supremacist. Yes, And the ideas they're expousing
great replacement theory and shit like that, are racist ideas.
And that means Dave Chappelle is in the crosshairs. And
it's something that Davejapelle's seems to have stood against his
whole life.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
But you know what, Dajeapell's never really stood against having
that conversation. He ain't afraid of it. He ain't afraid of.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
He He's more turned off by people being harsh about
the ideas than he is by the harshness of the
ideas that hurt him. Ideas And he did a whole
fucking special on that after George Floyd that had basically
no jokes and shit so ideas that in but at

(01:30:01):
the same time, his strange badfellows are now these people
that promote these ideas, because he's like, I don't really
have a place over there where I can't make this joke,
I can't say this thing, I can't be wrong, I
can't like there's no level of good faith in it.
Everything I say is one hundred percent bad faith. And

(01:30:22):
I'm only using him as example because I'm thinking of
all the different types of people and that collection combines
up that whole thing of like I don't want a
black woman as president is not about Kamala Harris as
a candidate. It's about what black women have come to
represent to these people in social media and life, because

(01:30:46):
how many people listen to black women, black women gonna
save us, black women, magical, black magic, black you know,
black girl magic.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
And a lot of these people have.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Quietly or loudly, But I think a lot quietly, yes, wietly,
like you just a fucking person, Like I'm a person.
Sometimes you be wrong, sometimes I be wrong. No one's
fucking above being wrong. And you know, I think this,

(01:31:15):
it's it's made these people I don't know that they
even find each other, because I would not I would
hesitate to say, all these people that are voting for
Trump are these like we all listen to Joe Rogan,
We are like some of these women probably don't fuck
with Joe Rogan. Some of these black people probably don't

(01:31:37):
fuck with white women.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
You know, depending on the group. Some of the black
men do.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
But you know what I mean, Like, there's a bunch
of different group circles and the VN diagram in the
middle where they meet. Is that ship that Trump was saying,
It is that that woke d These them they telling
you what to do, They're telling you how to think.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
They got dasty at.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
To It makes you feel like you're losing something, even
though you're really not losing shit.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
But you don't like that. So we're all free thinking
over here.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Together collectively to go say to these people, fuck you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
That is why.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Because you know how people keep going why they're so
mad they won. They're on Twitter trying to fight, they're
on Facebook making.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Weird posts like they want. But you know why.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
They're mad because it was fuck they said fuck you.
They this vote was them being mad. It's not necessarily
a clean logic to it. When I talk about people
that said I'm just not voting because she's a black woman,
I'm talking about people that sat home. I'm talking about
people that voted Democrat down ballot but not for her.
I'm talking about people that switch their vote, people that

(01:32:47):
voted for Biden but then voted for Trump. Those are
the people I'm gonna be in sense with them forever.
But this other group of people, it's definitely a collection
of individual gripes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Yes, that come together. It's the karens going.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
It's white women being like Karen is a slur to me,
and and we're like, shut your white ass up. It's
not the same as nigga. You don't know what the
fuck you're talking about. But is there something too that
impose to label somebody at Karen because they said something
you didn't agree with, or how we throw it around
at some point where it's like, I'm just mocking you
for being a white woman, like.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
You didn't really do.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
At some point it switched over from this white woman
was doing something racist and public and we called her
Karen to just like I was at the store the
other day and I saw this white lady and her Uh,
they double charged her for her groceries and she went
to customer service. I'm like, look at this, Karen. I'm like, nigga,

(01:33:48):
you do that too. I guess I'm a Karen. I
don't want to get double charged for grocery. But it
just becomes like, now we're just mocking each other. This
is not really a conversation anymore. The blue bracelet thing
kind of reminds me of that, to where like we're
mocking the idea that you're somewhere being devastated, being like,
I have to find a way to signal to people

(01:34:09):
that I still want to be a helpful person and
a member of society, of this multicultural coalition. I want
you to look at me and understand you are safe
with me. I would do what I need to do.
Whether it's true or not, whether you call that bluff
or not. We're shitting on them, right, We're shitting on
them for trying.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
We're like, fuck you, bitch, you should have tried the booth, nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
If I'm wearing the bracelest because I did go to
the booth and try, I'm devastated, Like you're devastated.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
This is fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
And so my point being, we had or have we
still have, Actually, we still have a multicultural coalition that
has to go high. That is the only way it's
gonna work on this side. Ye, everyone is going to

(01:34:58):
have to want it for someone else. Yeah, just them, Yeah,
someone else. Yeah, because the week because of our because
of the harshness of the environment. And this is for
the record, not taking any of the oners off of
the conservative environment, the toxicity over there. This ain't no

(01:35:18):
excuses for these motherfuckers. Y'all know how I feel about
the motherfuckers. What I'm saying is the Internet as a
medium has made our society this harsh towards each other.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
Agreed.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
And Also the thing is.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
When people on the left say they want to have
a conversation I particularly online, they don't really want to
have the conversation. They just want to really come out
and scold you for not agreeing with them. And so,
like you said, as a collective, we actually are going
to quote unquote have to.

Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
Have a conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
It's not a conversation on our side.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
And for years I've been like, yeah, fuck it, we
just gotta have the raw numbers and go out here
and win.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
We gotta want it worse than the other side.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Right, But now I'm looking back at this election, and
I go, oh, okay, I'll say the flawing that I forgot.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
People are people. They need emotions, they need to feel good.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Yeah, and people ain't gonna take you punching them with
so much and be like, fuck it the fuck I'm
over here for anytime I move, breefe say something.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Somebody smacking me online?

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Well, then why would I continue to be over here
when all I see is abuse? People don't look at
it like that, but these people that you're talking about
view it like that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Well it's because it's true, though, agreed, Because because this
is the thing we do look at it like that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
Look at our side, what do we say, don't tone
police me?

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Right, Like we have a bunch of rules over here
for us when we don't want to be talked to,
just any old kind of fucking way.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Because it's like, hey, we're.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Gonna respect each other over here, and then you have
people from over there that are disrespectful, So of course
we're like, fuck, you don't come over here.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
But there's a whole bunch of other people that literally
don't know. They don't fucking know. They don't keep up
with the terms, they don't read all the goddamn books, they.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Don't have time for all the goddamn books. They don't
know that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
The term changed this weekend to the next time and
we're using this now. They don't got that, And all
of this is exasperating enough, and sorry, there was a
there's a way to inspire that person. And this is
why I say, uh, for the rest of my life,
I'm never listening to no nigga shit on Barack Obama
pure But but the reason I say that is because

(01:37:35):
he understood this so much better than all the people
that think they're smarter than him do.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
He just knew how to talk to motherfuckers. Yep, that's
that skill is underrated as ship, Yes it is.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
He knew how to talk to a motherfucker that was
racist to make that person go, I don't think I'm racist,
no more that no one else can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
I ain't seeing nobody else.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
Him and Joe Biden the only fuckers I've ever seen
look at racist in the face and be like, but
you're not racist, right, and then being like, I guess
I'm not yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. And I'm like,
what kind of Scooby do ass magic trick was that?
So we have a problem over here of how to

(01:38:19):
communicate these ideas in a way that aren't just communicating idea,
but are influential and motivating people to align with the idea.
I mean, look at what happened with the Palestine. Shit,

(01:38:39):
how much of that conversation online with just everybody shitting
on each other. Very little of the Palestine conversation was like, hey,
so this this is the history of this.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Region, right, this had to go other places to learn
that information.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
Yes, I want I read.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
I went to podcast, read long form articles, all kinds
of shit, read a book like that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Very little of it was.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
About influencing people to your side through educating them.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
It was assuming the worst of the person, you know.
It was it was well, how can you be for Biden?
If you if you so? You okay? What babies getting killed? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
Think about the structure that motherfucking sentence for a second.
That is a sentence that if you've been online, you've
heard red saw.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
Maybe even had leveled at you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
Can you imagine you human being that just got accused
of that going yeah, no, I love babies getting killed.
Zero people think that, and what you would think, like,
what the the retorical ideas?

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
I asked you a question like that, and then you're
supposed to go, no, I would never be for babies
getting killed.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
And then you go, so, then how can you support
Joe Biden? And then I'm supposed to go, well, I don't.
I would never support Joe bid love babies, and right,
so we're not voting, right, yeah, of course, now we're
not voting. That's what they want. They don't want a conversation,
they want the illusion of a conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
Meanwhile, if you go back and go, okay, well I
have a follow up question. So we're not fucking with Biden,
what happens after that, Well, that's not the problem. You're
not going No, No, I would like to know because what
happens when we decide he's out of office, what happens
to Palestine, what happens to those babies that are the

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babies that remain, the babies that are left, what.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Happens to the people, what happens to the.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Land that But we wouldn't be responsible for that because
we didn't vote, So that's not our problem. That's not
our fault, right, but it kind of feels like it
would be our fault because we would have allowed something
worse to take the place of something already bad. So
it feels like that would be something we could have
prevented and it would be on us.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
No, that's not how this works at all. That's no. No.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
So I guess you like killing babies. That's the side
where we have that's the issue we have. On the
side is everybody likes killing babies because they disagree with you,
and that type of extreme rhetoric is what manifest online,
is what propagates online.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
But well, right, it turns people.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
But my point is it is the language of online
and it's not exclusive to the left. Like, don't get
once again, I'm not saying these things are exclusive to
the left. There's a group of the right that is
like this too. Yes, but what they'll do is something
more devious where they'll go, you know, trans people are
sexually assaulting children, and you care about children, don't you?

(01:41:43):
And people go, I do care about children, Well, then
you should be against trans people.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Shit, not even true.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
They pull up one article then motherfucker telling you this,
get busted abusing children three months later.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
None of it fucking matters. It's because that attitude is
I'm bringing you in, let me put you on. I'm
bringing you in.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
I'm not rebuking you, I'm not telling you, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
Pushing you out. I'm letting you in on the secret.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
So like a big thing this week was mostly white people,
but I'm sure some other people too.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
This is a thing like she commulss should have went
on Joe Rogan.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
She would should have went on Joe Rogan. You're not
getting he's already legitimized. You're not gaining anything by not
going on his show. You're not go ahead, Can'm sorry.
You sound like you want to say something.

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's just one of my things.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
It wouldn't have made a difference. Well, this is why
I'm getting too.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
They're like, whether she went or not, legitimately, I feel
zero way, one way or other. It just like if
he would have done what he was, if he would
have done that thing where they said just come out here,
we'll get a hotel room or something, you can interview
her for an hour and ball, I would have been
fine with that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
Like a lot of people would have been mad. About that.
I would I wouldn't have been mad. I wasn't mad
she did the thing with Charla Maine.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
I think she's a competent, established, well spoken person that
can sit.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
Down and articulate her ideas.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
And I think the interview would have went off without
a hitch. I think he would have tried a couple
gotcha things. I don't think he would have got her.
I don't think it would have been a big deal.
I think he would have.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Looked kind of dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
But here's the thing that y'all that you have to
understand about that if she would have went on Joe Rogan,
it wouldn't have been confrontational. He doesn't do confrontation like that,
not like that, like he might try to ask you
a tough question.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
He wants to look objective with Trump, so he's like,
I don't know about that man, but it's gonna come
out and support Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
Like we all knew that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
So that's not the part that to me, is where
I think the consideration lies. Like whether she did the
show or not, I don't think she's making huge inroads
with his fan base, and that is the part worth discussing.

(01:44:01):
Why do y'all think it's so simple. She goes on
there for three hours, and all of a sudden, these
white people that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Listen to Joe Rogan, these dudes that are in all this.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
Shit, are suddenly like, Oh, she's not bad, I'm gonna
vote for Why do you think it's that simple, Cause you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
Really don't respect them people over there.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
You don't really think them people as people because and
you really don't understand Joe Rogan's platform and appeal. What
Joe Rogan really has done is slowly been red pealing
his audience the way he's been red pealed for like.

Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
Ten years now.

Speaker 1 (01:44:46):
One appearance on his show will not change anything. It
just won't, because you're talking about trying to change people's
mind in three hours when there's literally hundreds and hundreds,
if not thousands of hours of the other thing.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
These people are in a completely.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
Different ecosphere mentally, like they do not exist in the
fact that you think we all have in common. They
don't exist in that and what is allowable and not allowable,
what makes someone good versus what makes someone bad. They
don't even have the same value system because for eight
years they've been slowly changing that value system So this

(01:45:37):
idea that Kamo is just gonna walk in there, have
a great interview, and then walk out of there with
one hundred thousand new votes, it's a pipe dream that
is once again rooted in this fallacy of giving whiteness
this plausible deniability. That's like, they don't really want this,

(01:45:57):
they just need to hear it from someone else. We
just she just needs to go on a campaign trail
and talk to them. No, they were never gonna vote
for her, because it's the same guy that told.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
His audience and it was exposed on the show lie.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
But this is a guy that was willing to believe
that there was a child at an elementary school who
was dressing up as a furry and eating out of
litter boxes in the bathroom and it was all because
teachers were allowing the wote stuff to be in it.
This is a guy who legitimately, sincerely believed that had
to be fact checked and told it was wrong, and

(01:46:31):
still doesn't come away from it, like maybe a lot
of the things I say about Trands stuff is wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Doesn't come away with it like that basically.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Goes okay, all right, Well, anyway, here's the next bullshit thing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
I might that might be true, that I might believe.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Right eight years of that. You're not battering that down
with three hours of talk. So you don't even respect the.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
Apparatus that you believe red peeled these people.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
And you think you about to just fix this in
an election cycle. You think you're about to just fix
this through a couple of well, we'll have some left
wing podcasts. Left wing podcasts harsh as fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
It's not listening to.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
The tone has to change, and the and the thing
that I find the most interesting is this is not
something Kamla Harrison her campaign needed to know. We're responsible
for or fucked up in the Kamala Harris campaign seem
to understand the assignment. They were the ones like, we

(01:47:35):
gotta be president for everybody. We gotta bring in conservatives,
we gotta listen. We gotta say Dick Cheney.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Is good, Liz Cheney is cool.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
We gotta say all the shit to let these people
know you can come here with your set of beliefs,
just because we're trying to be the better alternative.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
Hey, look at our economic policies.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
We passed that we're pro union, We're standing on the
union lines with you. That's not what this election was about.
I think this election was about a cultural pushback. Yes,
and she just became the symbol. And that is what
Trump understood. That is different than other politicians. He never

(01:48:26):
ran against Kamla Harris. He ran against a black woman.
He ran against an idea. He ran against wokeness and
transness and inclusiveness, exclusivity and them.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
He ran on grievance. He ran on them.

Speaker 4 (01:48:46):
Yeah, I told you that, and that them is all inclusive.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
But whatever your issue is, if it's a them on
the end of it, he was like, I'm gonna get them.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
And the thing with our big tent over here on
our side is that our tent has a lot of
people pushing out other people from the tent. It's not
this is not a big tent of like what's supposed
to happen, what used to happen, what happened for Barack Obama,
what happened to Joe Biden. You be in the tent,

(01:49:16):
you look to your left and you see George the
second Bush. You see George hw whatever whatever you see
that that bush that you don't like, and he over
there hugged up on Michelle Obama, and what was supposed
to happen. What used to happen is you look over
there and then you look at me, You look at

(01:49:40):
Karen and you roll your eyes, and then me and
Karen rollize with you, like this motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
Now, it's give him the fuck out the tent or
I won't out the tin. That's it. I'm leaving the tent.
I'm leaving a tent. Fuck it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
If y'all gonna have him in here, ain't room enough
for both of us. And then you look around, tent
not big enough to win, no more, a.

Speaker 4 (01:50:01):
Little less full tent, a little less full tent.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
Done shrunk. It used to be.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
We're single issue voters that kind of understand we need
to tolerate that that that dreaded word.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
Tolerate each other.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
And I've always said this ship about civil rights and
the law and cops and policing and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
I was always like, I don't really, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
And maybe it's a generation thing, y'all a little too
worried about how these people genuinely feel. Yeah, Like when
I go to a job and they say we're a family,
I have never been fooled by that. I don't never
care whenever someone is like, you know, I hate the
word ally. Just be a good person.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
Yeah, I hear you. I ain't what you're saying. That's
that's I mean, that's I guess that's nice. Here's what
I'll take. Follow the goddamn law.

Speaker 4 (01:50:55):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
So if.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
Your business is a publicly like, people can come in
your public business, and the law in our city is
you can't be in here being like I don't make
cakes for gay people and blacks.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Follow the goddamn law. That's good enough. Now, Look, when
I ain't around and I ain't, you could be back
there in the kitchen making my cake like I hate
them niggers. And I'm gonna have to just not know.

Speaker 1 (01:51:20):
And when I get my cake and then you can
look at the same services everybody else, I'm gonna take
it back to the crib, cut it up, eat it,
never knowing it was made by the KKK cakes, you know,
And I.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Will be just fine.

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
I'm like that too, because, like I said, it might
be a generational thing. At the end of the day,
I just want you to aby by the law and
just leave me alone.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
That should I have known when I looked at your
business and the cake business was named kk Cake and
all the k's was capitalizing kke k Cake.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
Maybe I should have known, but I.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Didn't know, and you followed the law. So we don't
need to go there. I don't need to know your
fucking attitude.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Do I need to know that every man is upstanding
in every person?

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
No, I don't. Boy, If you follow the fucking rules,
we'll never have to know that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:06):
We will never have to know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
Just follow the fucking rules. And so that's what I
care about.

Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
When you see why black people are always very very
pragmatic about laws and government, it's not because we are
so patriotic and love this country. We're just literally never
seen it work no other way every other time that
every time black people have progressed in this country, it's
because we made the country do what the fuck is
supposed to do by putting it in writing. We don't

(01:52:32):
trust this country in writing. We won't take any handshake agreements.
We just was like, write it down, write it down. Well, okay,
so this is the thing. Y'all got the right to vote.
Put it write it down, new amendment. Damn bitch, no nah,
because y'all be bullshit and other groups haven't learned that
they're gonna suck around and learn it this time probably,

(01:52:54):
But my point being like we're I don't need hearts
in mind, it's nice to have them, you know. If
you get like a transcendent figure like Barack Obama who
just know how to talk to him, make them think
they got the hardest of them, fine, fine, but that
shit ain't coming out. That shit don't grow on trees.
They didn't make two of them, y'all. Name all the

(01:53:15):
mother motherfuckings, motherfucking politicians y'all thought should have won the primary.
And I'm gonna tell you right now, zero of them
are Barack Obama.

Speaker 4 (01:53:23):
Right, and most of the country don't know who the
fuck they are.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
Zero I do know who they are, and zero of them.
Gavin Newsom ain't Barack Obama. Pete Budajag Love the dude,
he ain't Barack Obama. He not gonna make them sea
past him being gay. Barack Obama has some type of
gift to make them see past him being black. I
have my ideas for how he did it, and I
understand the resentment for how he did it, But Nigga,

(01:53:48):
he did it, and everybody else been coming up short.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Since yes they have.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
And so I think the broader point that I'm trying
to make here is like.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
A coalition of.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
This necessity was formed from all these bitter motherfuckers that
just got tired of being like I don't like being
called sis had and us being like, man, it doesn't
mean anything your sis had, bitch, and them being like, okay, okay,
I got something for your ass. This is the something
they have for our ass is Trump. Their point isn't

(01:54:21):
that they believe in Trump. No, it's that they don't.
They are as much about him being a symbol.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
As he's a symbol as he is about him being himself.
That is what I have come to believe over this
last He's a symbol.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
I don't think there's I mean, there's other ways people
can try to break this down individually, every little single issue,
everything the bigger thing because I'm thinking what's common, because
these groups don't have a lot in common.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
They all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Women are giving up the right to bodily autonomy to
be over there. Black dudes are literally giving up their
freedom to be over there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
None of these motherfuckers getting access to power.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
I looked at that cabinet that cabinet was whiter than
motherfucking your grandmama's China cabinet. It wasn't not a nigga
in that motherfucker and won't be ain't trying to be.
But why is barn Donald's up there shucking the motherfucking Dixie?
Because it's it's something else. It's not just as simple
as like, it's not. It's not as simple as just

(01:55:24):
the biggo tree. They don't even all hate the same them, Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:55:28):
They don't all. That's why.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
That's why I use them as a collective, because the
them is scattered all over the place, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:55:34):
Yeah, And so I think it's looking at the analysis
and the poster back, I just think so much of
it is missing it. Because if you start from a
place of one dismissing the bigger tree, then I think
we can't have a conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
I think that's just stupid. I think you're a child
and you need to grow the fuck up. Now what.

Speaker 1 (01:55:57):
I don't necessarily know what you can do about it,
but it exists. There's a lot the bigotry over there,
and they're selling it and people are buying it and
they not and they're not accidentally getting it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
They don't. They just either don't care or they want it.
That's the only two. So we gotta start there.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
But then the second, the second thing is how did
these motherfuckers that hate each other end up together? When
that used to be the calling card of the Democrat
Party was I don't like you, you don't like me,
but nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
We don't we need to.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
If you get a little something, I get a little something, fine,
I'm gonna look the other way, you know, like that's cool,
and all these like fixes that everybody has, it's just like,
throw the marginalized people out.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
It's not gonna work.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
And here's here's the last thing I do want to say,
because I gotta go to the gym, and I know
I feel a buster and I've been talking, but this
is literally all ever thinking about for a week, and
I was like, when I get back on.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
The mic, I just want to say this.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
At some point I was gonna say for a whole
different show, but I just rather get it over it now.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Because there I'll tell you this much.

Speaker 1 (01:56:59):
If anyone rights in or here's this and says you
guys made it sound like it's our fault on the
left that these people are biggest thank you for proving
my point if you're write in with that bullshit, because
this has been a very nuanced, long waited discussion that
covered a lot of angles and at no point was.

Speaker 2 (01:57:16):
It and we shouldn't feel that way. No, I know
why we feel that way. I'm black too. I want
to protect my space. Fuck you get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
It's aggressive, but it's not a learning environment. It's not
and we don't really have a learning environment for people
to come in and learn. It's a very like fuck
you attitude, and they're fucking us back.

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
This is them going fuck you back. And we're like,
but look how fucked up things are gonna get. And
they're like, that's how much I don't give a fuck, right,
I like, I'm hurting myself to hurt you and I
and even if you just to let you fucking know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
But here's the last thing I was thinking about this
this morning when this all started. I had a homie
hit me up when it was Kamala Harris and right before,
or actually know, right after, Joe said it should be
Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
I'm stepping down. Kama should be the nominated, Okay, and
he hit.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
Me up and was like, you know, I don't think
she can win, she's losing candidate, blah blah blah. And
I'm like, yeah, I don't agree with you on that.
I actually think she's a winner candaday. I think she's
I think you're thinking of like some shit some white
people said a few years ago, and we have no
reason to keep believing that bullshit. And I think that

(01:58:30):
I think she acquitted herself with the campaign she ran.
If you if you literally watched this and when it
was the campaign she ran, we just see the world
completely different and I don't really know how we'll ever
see it the same. So it's just not worth fighting about.
I don't want to fight you about it. I'll you know,
I'll listen, I hear you out. But I just can't
imagine any argument that it will erase what I witnessed

(01:58:53):
in North Carolina, US picking all Democrats down the ballot
except her, except her. That that's not a campaign issue,
my man, when I see these ads that ain't campaign issues,
that's not the economy, it's not it's not Palestine, it's
just it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
It's not it's not what you wanted to be.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
And this because you have your piccadillos with the Democrats
in general, and so whoever it was gonna be, you
were gonna have this issue and if they lost, you
gonna act like that was the reason they lost. I'm
just telling you I saw my own eyes. No argument
will ever convince me. People just kind of wanted this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
Yes they did, and nothing else would change my mind.
Like I said, particularly if you lived in these swing
states and you saw these commercials. The bulk of the
country did not see these goddamn commercials we saw here.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
That shit makes a difference. And so this is what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
The thing that he said was when I was like, well,
if they don't pick Kamala, this will be the biggest
betrayal in the history, like maybe since the right to
suffrage went to black men first, this will be that

(02:00:06):
level of betrayal to black women as the people that
essentially have done a great job of trying to make
the Democratic Party live up to what the fuck it
said is gonna do.

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
You said this, bitch, not me, Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
Right, And maybe those things hurt the Democratic Party in
general because white people are and men and people that
you know, people of privilege are not possible to living
up to what they said they wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
That could be that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:37):
Listen, there's some people coming out that are They have
these very harsh takes about like we need to get
rid of all these DEI woke initiatives and just get
back to the economy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
They could be right.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
It don't make it okay, It don't make it morally good,
but they could absolutely look at the math and be
right and be like, we gotta drop all this defund
the police, all this trans lives matter, all this blah blah,
we gotta drop all this shit. We gotta drop blisten
to black when we need to get back to just
the economy and then social issues we just not touching them.

(02:01:11):
I don't agree with it. I think it will hurt
the party. I think it would hurt America. But the
lesson that white people are probably coming out of this
with is not the one all these motherfucking political theorists
on Twitter thought, which is they're gonna be even more
progressive that they never learned that lesson. It's always gonna
come out like how do we get these white folks back?

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
That's what the fuck happens. The only way it won't happen.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
Is if marginalized people stay on the neck of a
Democratic party to say no, we are pushing further.

Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
That's the only way it will happen is if that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:46):
And I don't know that that people had a willpower
for it, but I mean, I know Jasmine Crockett is
I think trying to run for like speakership and stuff,
so like it could happen. But I just I'm a
little like, we'll see because I feel like in the past,
as all the American history I've.

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
Studied, they jumped back. They're like, hey, oh, y'all tripping right.

Speaker 1 (02:02:06):
But the point sorry, but the point I'm trying to
make is this that I thought of this one when
I said that about they better pick Kamla because if
not black women are like, I don't even.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
Know what you you can't fix that bridge.

Speaker 1 (02:02:24):
And he said, you know, not to be harsh or anything,
but like where they gonna go. And it bothered me
at the time, but I didn't really have like this
hadn't all, this hadn't happened yet, and I hadn't really
sat down and thought about like because I'm like, I
get your point, but this feels different. Than me, and

(02:02:46):
I don't know why it feels different. And here's why
I think it's different.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
I think people.

Speaker 1 (02:02:56):
Still think black women are like the even good people
with good intentions in their mind, it's still the Republican
version of like welfare queen black women. Black women the
most educated, the most educated, the most entrepreneurial, the most employed,

(02:03:23):
the like the better financed.

Speaker 4 (02:03:26):
Than any other group in this goddamn country.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
The reason when you say they are the backbone and
the Democratic Party, part of that is also because they
did the work. Like It's not like because the Democratic
Party was like, we need a background, you know what
I'm saying, like, hey, hey Democratic Party. No, it's like
they they did the work. They're competent, they're they're ahead
of other people. They see a bigger picture. They understand

(02:03:51):
when you.

Speaker 4 (02:03:52):
Always had to care about to collective.

Speaker 1 (02:03:54):
They understand, we have to put another fucking face on
the same point that you're making because they know that
you won't listen to me.

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
So this idea that black.

Speaker 1 (02:04:04):
Women individually and collectively won't manage to survive without the
Democratic Party is as not half.

Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
Of this shit don't even really affect.

Speaker 1 (02:04:16):
Them, not even And that's not like being like weird, like,
but like half of this ship that that people trans issues,
not one hundred percent of black woman issue, like just
a black woman issue.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
What even a black trans woman.

Speaker 1 (02:04:33):
There's other issues I gotta deal with that they might not, like,
maybe it's a bathroom bill on my state.

Speaker 2 (02:04:38):
Maybe it's just.

Speaker 1 (02:04:39):
Some other shit I gotta deal with. But not every
black woman is trans. So you're talking about a small
percentage of Black women there that are like, this is
what I'm dedicating my time to. Now when you've seen
a lot of black women in the Democratic Party lining
up for inclusion, that's for the benefit of everybody because
they deal with so much marginalized. They're like, yes, we

(02:05:02):
should help out LGBTQ people to of course, because we
know what it feels like everyone else that only got
that one.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
They're like, I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:05:10):
Know about all this, but I don't feel comfortable. Okay,
then you got economics. A lot of these women are
doing fine, better about their damn self. So you so like,
what are we talking about when we're talking about families
and all, we gotta have a family. You know who
makes that demand Mostly black men who are trying to

(02:05:32):
get control over black women, yes, being like they breaking
up the family. No, you mean they're breaking up the
patriarchal construct of a family in which you believe you
should have a promise of getting to run a household
and your kids and tell them what to do right,
you should make the most money and all this shit.
This is not This is a different conversation for another time.
I'm not trying to break it all down with my

(02:05:53):
point being the idea is like, this is what the
black women should want.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Nah, a lot of black.

Speaker 1 (02:05:58):
Women like I'll be just fucking find by myself. I'll
figure my situationship out and and and then education wise,
you know, maybe you could bring up student loans. I
think student loans is a real issue for Black women
because of how much education they have, and because we
don't necessarily have generational wealth.

Speaker 2 (02:06:18):
That would have helped everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
That would definitely help black women with student loans and stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
But it ain't no reason to feel stuck with the
Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (02:06:26):
Student loans wasn't even on Joe Biden's fucking agenda when
he got elected. So like this is there's a there's
an assumption that, like black women are so desperate that
they're doing this work right, And I'm like, I don't
think that's what's happening. I don't like, just statistically, I
don't think you have the argument to back that up.

(02:06:47):
There are groups in this country that actually are doing
worse than black women and should be more desperate, who
are like.

Speaker 2 (02:06:52):
I'm gonna go fuck with these Republicans.

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
I don't think black women are gonna put fuck with Republicans,
but I do think it's totally possible to be like, Okay,
Democratic Party ain't doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:02):
They ain't got it now.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
They writing all these fucking op ads about how we
the problem.

Speaker 2 (02:07:06):
They tired of.

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
This idea of like Kamala came to represent the harsh
fold of the to me, the online internet version of
a black woman listening to black women shut the fuck up,
you caring blah blah blah. She doesn't promote that, but
that's what the right was able to sell her.

Speaker 2 (02:07:24):
Ass. That's the unifying idea that I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:07:28):
That's where Joe Rogan and Dave Chappelle can shake hands,
is man, these bitches ain't finna tell us what to do.

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
Oh with all they woke d I boy black, I'm Indian.
I'm a woman. I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (02:07:39):
Okay, I don't like that y'all came in here and
tried to tell me how to handle my business, and
I'm gonna put you back in your place, know your
place aggression, as Professor Carritha calls.

Speaker 2 (02:07:51):
It, right.

Speaker 1 (02:07:52):
So, I feel like this idea of putting black women
in their place really was the undercurrent of this last
probably eight years of the Internet ever since, like Black
Lives Matter popped up, and it was a bunch of
black women getting a lot of credit for that movement
and writing stuff, you know, like we're reforming what the

(02:08:13):
family structure is and we are a leaderless movement and
y'all better not do TV.

Speaker 2 (02:08:17):
And we fuck Obama and fuck you and fuck the police.

Speaker 1 (02:08:20):
There's this idea a lot of people collectively it was like, nah,
fuck y'all, though I actually do I'm black.

Speaker 2 (02:08:26):
I want police in my neighborhood. I just want to
do their job. Just do your job.

Speaker 1 (02:08:30):
Well, that's not what we decided, okay, Okay, Well, when
it's my turn to have a say, which I will,
y'all are gonna feel how I feel today, and it's
not right.

Speaker 2 (02:08:41):
I wish people were better people but they not better people.
These the people we got.

Speaker 1 (02:08:46):
And there's a math to this where it's gonna be like,
how do you figure out the numbers to have more
numbers than the side of these people who collectively said fuck.

Speaker 2 (02:08:57):
You to all of us.

Speaker 1 (02:08:58):
My guess is you'll find those numbers after Trump, just
because I don't think they're gonna be swayed. I don't
think the environment is gonna change. I don't think anyone's
gonna start educating pulling people in. I don't think you're
gonna find any left wing podcasts that actually have converse,
real conversations with people that they don't agree with, that
say offensive shit that did they vehemently disagree with and

(02:09:21):
are willing to be like and come back next week
and we'll do it again.

Speaker 2 (02:09:24):
I think that time is dead. I think that shit
is over.

Speaker 1 (02:09:28):
So I think the only thing that could bring people
back together is being so fucked up in this country
where it's like, oh man, the eggs costs MO, the
gas costs MO. The fucking I can't get a house.
Oh he lied about this thing. The flooride isn't in
the water, my teeth falling out, whatever the fuck it's
gonna take that before these motherfuckers wake up and go, Oh,

(02:09:50):
that's what y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:09:50):
Meant when you said vo for Colin Harris.

Speaker 1 (02:09:52):
I just wanted to say fuck you real quick. I
didn't know it was gonna have consequences. Elections and the
the last two albums of the nineties by Trial Call
Quest got the same thing in common. Consequences y'all didn't want. Okay, sorry, consequence.
If you listen to this, I actually thought you it
was a good rap. I'm sorry, But my point is

(02:10:15):
this idea that black women are like left with nowhere
to go.

Speaker 2 (02:10:20):
It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (02:10:21):
And if they literally abandon the party, which I do
not see why, I can absolutely see a.

Speaker 2 (02:10:27):
Path where they would.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
I'm not saying they should. And I know there's a
lot of black women listening. If l Droy is listening,
I know she want them people that's gonna stand and fight.

Speaker 2 (02:10:34):
I'm not so. This is not me encouraging this, but
I would understand.

Speaker 3 (02:10:38):
I agree, baby, and I know we gotta go. But
this is how I truly feel the whole Democratic Party,
the totality of the Democratic Party, has taken the strength
and the backbone and the nuances and shiit that black
women have done for this party for centuries, for granted,
Like they just took that ship for granted, because in

(02:10:59):
order for nobody to kind of make that statement like
where they're gonna go like we don't have a choice,
you know, Like, and the thing is, this was a
smack in the face and in our minds were like, well,
we did it for y'all, and y'all told us no.
So you rejecting her as you rejecting us. So you're
gonna have a percentage of Black women that are that

(02:11:19):
are going.

Speaker 4 (02:11:20):
To be like, you know what I I'm gonna do.

Speaker 3 (02:11:22):
I'm not gonna vote then since you say I'm the problem,
I'm not even gonna participate in the process anymore. And
you're gonna have a lot of Black women like me
that's going I would do the bare minimum, which means I.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
Will vote, which I don't think that I don't think
the Democratic Party can survive or come back if that's
how most Black women end up feeling. And and I'm
just it's a very tenuous time because, as I said
to start this whole segment, we lost by one point.

(02:11:54):
You know what I'm saying, Like it's a it's a
game where you lent oh Man forty nine, forty eight
tough loss in the Super Bowl, and people are like,
burn this motherfucking team to the ground. And I'm like, y'all, sure,
get the black women off the team, get the get
the gay people off the team, get the trans people
out of the team. This like, y'all sure that that's

(02:12:15):
the reaction you want coming out of this election, because
I promise you, the worst thing that can happen.

Speaker 2 (02:12:22):
Is that you get your wish, yes, Because.

Speaker 1 (02:12:25):
If motherfuckers really start going, Okay, we're not wanted here,
we're not wanted here, you will never get those other
white people who haven't voted Democrats since the civil rights
back passed.

Speaker 2 (02:12:37):
They're not coming back.

Speaker 1 (02:12:39):
They like what's over there, or they don't care about
what's over on the other side. This this pipe dream
that they're gonna grow a heart like this, like the
Grench on Christmas Day.

Speaker 2 (02:12:51):
Is not happening, bro.

Speaker 1 (02:12:53):
So I really do think we're in a precarious situation.
Everybody better be careful what they fuck you. You know,
That's why I'm not like, I know it's an eye
rolling thing. I know some motherfuckers don't like it. You know,
I know that little voice in your head is mocking
me when y'all hear me talking about this shit. But
that's why I don't want to participate in the light
and these motherfucking A white woman said I didn't vote

(02:13:16):
for this, and I said.

Speaker 2 (02:13:17):
Bitch, like, no, I don't know. She probably didn't. She's
probably fucking devastated.

Speaker 4 (02:13:21):
It sucks.

Speaker 2 (02:13:22):
It fucking sucks, you know what I mean. I'm not
yelling at you because you went to Thanksgiving. I'm going
to my Thanksgiving too. Maybe my Republican honor be there.

Speaker 1 (02:13:29):
I don't know, but it's but it is what it
is at this point that that's not what it is
that's gonna win this thing back. If it's gonna be
one back, there has to be a place to land
for everybody. I got Kamla Harris's campaign understood that I
did not realize. This was never about Democrats, It was

(02:13:52):
never about the campaign.

Speaker 2 (02:13:54):
It was always.

Speaker 1 (02:13:55):
About the idea of the left and the culture of
the left. And I just I did not understand the
amount of angst people had towards it that they would
willingly burn the country to the ground to be like
but at least at least.

Speaker 2 (02:14:12):
I'm sticking it to y'all too.

Speaker 1 (02:14:15):
And so that's why I think is that that's where
I think the commonality is. This is a lot of
people going, yeah, well, sure my house is on fire,
but the whole neighborhood on fire. And uh, that'll teach
you motherfuckers about saying I got too many Christmas lights
or whatever the fuck, Like the whole neighborhood gotta go
up because y'all said the homeowner association said I couldn't

(02:14:36):
have that many lights in.

Speaker 3 (02:14:38):
My friend And you're like, well, a damn holl why
can't it just be your house?

Speaker 1 (02:14:42):
Yeah, Like, we're like the fact that Donald Trump is
appointing Darth Vader the new head of space for us.
Come on, Dark Vader, and we're sitting over here being like, well, shit, Kamala,
who went on Joe Rogan, we're missing a fucking point
building a new moon and shit, what damn what's happening here?

Speaker 2 (02:14:59):
That's the moon?

Speaker 4 (02:15:00):
Like we like, that's a death star.

Speaker 2 (02:15:03):
Yeah, we're sitting over here being like, oh, Voldemort named
the head of education. And then we're like, but you
know what the real problem is. She went on call
her daddy but.

Speaker 4 (02:15:15):
She didn't go on that's the real issue.

Speaker 1 (02:15:17):
She didn't go on to Joe Rogan show, like we
we are missing the motherfucking point, and I don't know
how you fix it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:25):
I wish I had the answers.

Speaker 1 (02:15:27):
I I don't know who the next transformative leader is
gonna be.

Speaker 2 (02:15:31):
I don't know who's gonna step up into this void.

Speaker 1 (02:15:34):
I just don't think bringing back the old Democrat way
is gonna fix it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:39):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (02:15:40):
Making at black women and being like, y'all got this right.
I don't think that's gonna do it. And so maybe
it just takes some time to start seeing the future.
But sadly, what I think is gonna happen is day
after day after day of being innodateated with Trump doing.

Speaker 2 (02:15:56):
Wild shit and the consequences coming home at some point.

Speaker 3 (02:16:00):
People and they gonna be like, Okay, yeah, you know.
And I really do feel like, I hope you get
everything that you ask for and dreamed and won't it.

Speaker 2 (02:16:08):
Yeah, the only problem is we're in the car too, Yes,
be on the side of the road.

Speaker 1 (02:16:12):
I hope y'all don't get everything that y'all wanted, But
you know, I hope I can survive, y'all getting what
I wanted. That's that's how I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:16:21):
Looking at it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
And so anyway, I gotta go because if I'm not
gonna make it to the gym on time, and.

Speaker 2 (02:16:25):
I really do need to work out because I took
yesterday off.

Speaker 1 (02:16:28):
All Right, y'all, that's it. We'll be back. I hope
you enjoyed this. I mean, y'all said, y'all wanted it back.
Now you got two hours. That's being mad about Trump.

Speaker 2 (02:16:36):
All right, you're happy. All right, We'll be back until
next time. I love you. I love you too,

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