3027: After Dark, Mahogany, and Teak

Rod and Karen respond to listener feedback.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I listened to the black Guy You Tips podcast because
Rod and Caroin.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Or what hey, Welcome to another episode of the black
Outs podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
I'm your host, Rod joined us always with my.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Co hosts and we're live on a Saturday, ready to
do some feedback. It's an episode about what you guys
had to say throughout the week. We're gonna read your
five star Reviews're gonna leave you read your comments you
left on our website, your votes in our polls, the
donations that you left, the emails. We got a bunch
of letters in the mail, you know, all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
And if we have time, might even go over our.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Spotify wrapped for creators and talk about you know, the
podcast and all the stuff for the for the for
the year. So we only did two episodes this week,
so you know that part might be a little shorter
than normal.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
We'll see, you know, we can get to talking when
talking ass niggas.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
The official weapon of the show is funk chair and
the unofficial sport and bullet.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Ball extreme extreme extreme.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Of course, the people that want to shout out first
are the people that left us money with donations.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
May I have an attemption.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
We're now listening to Charlotteton, Rod and Aaron.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
We welcome the good folks who tied to the black
dry tips. That's right. A little bit of donations from
the whole nation. Yeah awesome, Jeff, Jeff m Uh.

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A j D. Chrishelle b uh An E. P. Will
help you, okay, Anne?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
And are you okay?

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Diana R. Julian in Uh, Laura E. Nicholas Ze, Noel W.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Bomani Jones who I'll be live with at the end
of January at the Realito Theater in Durham.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Come check us out, Basketball Jones. Get your tickets online.
Google everything I just said. All right, and that's it
for the donations. Thank you everybody from whole nation.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
And if you was looking for the hose to day
we was at the gym, it was deep in there.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah. It might be like that till about February March
just start dying out.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Some people getting to jump on their New Year's resolutions.
And I don't blame them. You won't hear me complaining.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Guys, Okay, nope, because they keep everybody else price is.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Low or oh yeah, I don't even know if it
affects the price at this point, but you know what,
it's good. It's good being there, do you think? All right?
Five star reviews.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
We got one new five star reviewer's annual five stars
from the Disorganized Virgo six days ago. Hey, y'all, longtime listener,
repeat raider. We love a repeat rader.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Come on, repeat rader, repeat rate.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Us is what we're into. I had to come put
my five on these tithes. You all are the best
in the game, and the longevity, quality of the show
and authenticity shows in every single episode.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
If y'all don't have me thinking, you.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Have me laughing. I appreciate you both. Cheers to a
new year of riding. Karen Shannan again.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Thank you, thank you. You know we love a Shnan
again or two.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
All right, now, let's get into the comments on the
website and YouTube and you know all that stuff that
we'd be doing. The first episode was a feedback up
sell three oh two five Big.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Steakhouse three comments.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Appia says, I'm wondering if I could say that I
get paid to be fun not the direct way, but
I know for sure people want me on their appointments
with important customers because I'm a good time. Not only
for that reason, but it helps. I'm gonna say I
don't mean this in an offensive way. I think you're
pretty funny too, but I'm gonna say no. Okay, I

(04:18):
know this is a world of just everyone's supposed to
say yes to everything.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Everybody come in with a tight fifteen.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Well, I'm gonna say no because if you're if you
are not good at your job but you do continue
to be very funny, you will not have a job.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
You will be a funny unemployed woman.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
So I don't think that that is necessarily you getting
paid to be funny. I think getting paid to be
funny is like when I was at Game Theory, if
them jokes wouldn't have been hitting, somebody else would have
been in there, and I wouldn't have got a call
back for season two, no matter how me cool, me
and Bomoni are, it would have been like yeah, we

(05:01):
like nope, and it was nakedly obvious, right, Like if
I wasn't funny, my jokes don't go in the show.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
That's just how it works.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's no, there's no favoritism or like sympathy or any
of that shit. It's like, what was the funniest thing
that could possibly be said here? What's the most accurate thing?
All that stuff? And so you're not a bad motherfucker
with that pen. You start noticing like, damn my shit,
don't get in real quick, don't you. You know, so
I'm gonna say no, no offense though, don't take it personal.

(05:30):
Have some study, have some stuffy professor you have to
have a meeting with. When I'm with you, he will
have a good time, even if he doesn't really want to.
I can smell out what to say to make him
break the serious act. His eyes will begin to sparkle
and the mouth turns upward. Haha, the oppy effect. And
I'm in Germany, not necessarily the capital fund, so.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I probably do.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's not Netflix money, but it's steady. I give you
all of the fun goods for free because you are
the best. Yeah, listen, I think you are funny.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I just don't.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I would not make the leap into bigeess aid to
be funny. I think it's just a it's a bonus.
It's what makes you even better at your job than
somebody that can do the job and be unfunny.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Agree.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I still would rather have you do the account. If
you're funny, then the person that is not a good
time to hang out with.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Agree.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Neb says, I'm glad you like the card in the CD. Yes,
that's my dog. Her name is Missy heart emoji. I
decided to get a family holiday photo with her this year.
She was a bit confused by but I think it
turned out cute.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
It did turn out you.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Bigfoot is the worst track on their I agree. I
debate whether or not to include it because it's so terrible,
but it was extremely memorable for me, so I decided
fuck it. Glad you still have a way to listen
to CDs. Not everyone still does, but I love them.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, we still got them old cars, they got CD
players in no GPS in them.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yep, and.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Bigfoot is definitely worth including. Tracks are memorable and they
don't have to be good to be memorable.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
And that's true.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
A horrible disc can also be hilarious.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
So yeah, and the Bigfoot joint was in bad, bad,
but I mean I do remember it from last year
especially how clever she thought that big foot line was.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Getting though she thought she had something.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
She really thought she could turn the whole beef into
the end of that one line.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
It just I don't know. Maybe it's the drug. Sean says.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
When you talked about cooking with Kaya thought wait until
they find out about only pants. Then I realized that
there must be hundreds of thousands or even more sneaking
past the Sensus cooking channels. So I started researching. That's
why I didn't post much last week. So much so I.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Guess only pants is some type of sexual things. Research.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Oh so much research. Yeah, I don't know what only
pans is. I just did only pans and YouTube popped
up with a bunch of videos and tick and then
Instagram has a count named only pants.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
But it looks like just regular food.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
So I don't know if that's supposed to be like
some sexual element to only pans. Only pants ultimate food
recipes and cooking tips on TikTok. So I clicked on
that and I'll see if I can show the rest
of it. I mean, it doesn't look are rated or nothing.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
It just like welcome back to my only pants.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
I hope you're because today we're making bedia tacos.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Got I missed you.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Will be all right.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I turned the volume down just so we won't get
flagged on YouTube with this music.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
But it looks like you're just cooking, right.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I mean, it's attractive person cooking, but I feel like
that's everything on TikTok.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Everything on TikTok, you have.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
To be made out of the gods and cleavage popping
makeup to do anything.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I don't notice didn't feel too sexy to me. I don't.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Maybe I'm I could be missing something that you know.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I don't know. I'm not doing a deep dive on it.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
But no, I haven't heard of only pans and good
luck to them, you know, or whatever people wish? All right,
the pole, I mean, I'm sorry. Let's see, we had
any comments on the YouTube for this episode. No no
comment on YouTube, So we go to the poll. Do
you mail our holiday cards? I do, and by and
by proxy that means Karen does too. And we mailed

(09:12):
all y'alls out last week, so some of y'all should be.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Getting them soon if you haven't got them all ready.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, although I noticed y'all niggas ain't been posting them
online and tagging us, so maybe.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Y'all ain't got them, yeut, or maybe y'all.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Forgot I don't know, because yeah, because going people start
letting us know when they received it, so they might
not have gotten them yet.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I think Christmas threw it off because you know, Chris.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, we did mail them like right before the holiday.
So you know, anyway, two percent of the audience does
seventy eight percent don't listen. I ain't trying to create
no extra work for y'all, and if you don't want
to do it, I feel you.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
But let me just tell y'all.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Since I started sending out these cars every year, it
hasn't riched my life. And I like sending them out
and it's very fun. It's like a little project. I
use Vista print online to like personalize it every year,
and I enjoy picking out the car in the design.
You know, this year, we took a picture with the
Charlotte hornets and then I went and had that turned

(10:06):
into vector art. Then I put it on like a
little sparkly kind of card. And I enjoyed sending them
out to people. It were pretty I liked them a lot.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, it's fun and we get to do stickers. It's
so much fun the stuff them and stuff too.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, the stickers is more of a US thing, just
you know that we started doing because I thought that
would be cool to give y'all a little something. But
uh yeah, and I look forward to when y'all send
y'all's cards in too, like can we get y'all pictures?
And I don't know know y'all, but some of y'all,
you know, we know a little bit better than others.
But either way, I think it's really dope when y'all

(10:39):
have pictures with your fur babies and and your real
babies and you and each other and by yourselves and
and all that stuff. And those of y'all that went
go and find these like mahogany cars that I've never
heard of, y'all.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Be finding about hogging this up. I was like, who,
I didn't even know they made them? Like this is
the car ma out of chocolate.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
So I appreciate all that stuff, and I do do.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I love them at our home, they ever single one
of them.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, So thank you? All right. The next episode.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Is three two six Smug Mold Smug smug mode activated.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
So we're gonna talk about that one.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
We had.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Six comments. Let's get to him. Afire left the first two.
Mister Apia and Ire out eating and his food comes first. Great,
we are eating his food. Now that's that marriage tax
when it's the other way around. I of course, also, yeah,
I guess I've just never been that uptight about manners
or whatever. But I think a lot of people when

(11:39):
they hear those scenarios online, they go to like a
very formal place that's like dating or.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Business line, right, you know, right, you know type of thing,
and even those scenarios.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
I'm fine with that too, but yeah, a lot of
people feel different.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I think as an introvert, I very rarely have those
type of sit downs with people that I am very formal. Yeah,
so most of the time, when I if I close
my eyes and you tell me to imagine some scenario
of like this happened at a restaurant, in my mind,
I'm sitting across the table from people I love and
know in a way that we don't need to do

(12:13):
the like no, no, let's all wait until the food comes.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
No elbows on the table.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Like do you know your static fuck? No, bitch, you don't.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, like I just it doesn't come across that way
to me.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
All fil says people do hate women, not all of them,
but enough. I don't know why, because news flash, they
are also human, just the female version. My best guess
is that power is still mostly in male hands, and
people love to be on the side of power. This
explanation works also for racism. What do you think, Yeah,
I mean, look, dog, hating women is old as old

(12:45):
as time.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
It is.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I don't know what started it for sure, but I
know a lot of things have been written to justify it,
and I don't think anyone is immune to it. I
think even those of us who are very intentional about
not trying to harbor hate for women, it's pretty much
impossible because things getting you from the time you're a
fucking child, and you can try to unwork all that,

(13:08):
but it has the fact that it has to be
intentional in a way that I did not have to
do with men, like I don't have to unwork like
my not not that there's things that are bad stereotypes
about men that aren't true, but I don't have to
like unwork myself. But a man could never be in
charge of the country or whatever, But uh, yeah, it

(13:31):
affects us all. I think the biggest best thing you
can do is just be conscious of it and try
to navigate that way and never really rule it out.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
At least be considerate of it.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
And even then sometimes you're not going to always agree
with the critiques.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
That people will level at you anyway.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
You know, we have a very public facing job, and
so there's times that people, I'm sure think, oh, well,
you shouldn't say this. If you feel this way and
you're not nobody's clean. Listen to enough podcasts you realize
nobody has that figured out one hundredercent of the time.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Nope, And you just try to work from having a
good heart and being cognizant.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Right, And everybody is trying their best to navigate this
world the best that they know how with the tools
that they have at the time. And as you grow
and you mature and you evolve and you learn more
about yourself and the things around you and your surroundings,
those tools will change to kind of make you a
better person, Like like it, like this, If that's something
you want to do, some people opt not to do that.

(14:28):
And you were talking about being aware. Yes, it's particularly
being a woman from the time you're born. People don't
realize they kind of teach little girls to hate themselves,
but they don't How can I say this? They do

(14:48):
it not knowing that's the season their planning. You know,
they do it because this is the way you're supposed to.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Do the things.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
And then you know, as the little girl grows up
and get out there and get in the real world,
you realize, oh, this is not as simple as they
told me, or not as easy as they told me.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Some people are prepared.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
If you that special snowflake and you came out and
you was like, well, I knew, God bless you, what
I didn't. And I had to learn how to learn
a lot of shit about myself and how I feel
about other women around.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Me and shit like that. Like it is a very
complex thing.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
And it makes me think about that time when they
were talking about having period parties, and because of the
trauma that I went through with that, I was very
adamant against that. And the thing is, it's not something
to be ashamed of, it's not something to be afraid of.
It's not something that you should feel guilty about, because
it's something natural, but because for me it was such

(15:47):
a traumatizing experience, which a lot of people do.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
They take their traumas and women do this all the time.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
They take their traumas and the things that they deal
with in life and push it on to the next
generation and don't realize that you actually not helping, you know,
them actually navigating. And it's very hard to unlearn that stuff.
Because after we had that conversation, my eyes kind of
open up to, oh, these are things and hang ups
that I have based off of the people around me.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
So yeah, and you have to be aware of those things.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Sometimes it's hard to be alert and the we're at
all times and no matter that, no matter what you
think about that, there are times where I'm like, no,
I feel this way about this thing, and regardless about
what the world thinks.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
This is how I feel.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
And that's why we're talking about sometimes there's some things
that need to stay within the relationship because there's some
things that you might have functioning in your relationship. People
on the outside might think that there's something wrong with it.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I think just in general, you know, it's something The
thing about misogyny is that for some reason, it's the
thing that no one can admit about themselves, which is
to me, makes it even more insidious than something like racism,
where every once in a while someone will be like, yeah,
I am racist, I'm a proud racist. But you just

(17:07):
do not run into people that are like I hate
women or I have a problem with women, even when
they clearly do.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
You know anyway, Shoe Booty says, everything about this Blake
Lovely situation makes so much sense now. Everything was so
weird around this rollout.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I remember the social media hot takes trying to get
people to dislike her, and I'm like, weird taking, I'm
not buying it, And seeing he had a whole ass
pr strategy and fake posts and news stories to try
to destroy her thirty he always seen funny as performative feminists,
and now it all clicks that to me, that's the biggest,
the biggest loss in here, Like, I'm very happy for

(17:44):
Blake Lively being vindicated, but this is another time. Well,
the biggest loss to me is the trust and the
belief that a man can actually be a positive, like
supportive person for women and try to be like intentional

(18:07):
and safe towards women without it being some type of hustle,
some type of cover up, or some type of like
in roads to like have sex with a lot of women. Right,
But at the same time, I just don't know how
you can acknowledge the trend. And I'm sure just from
the happenstance, there's a lot of men within different industries

(18:32):
who help women go out of their way to be
good to women, but like there are beacons of light.
But honestly, the only time you ever really can believe
that is when you hear that shit from other women
that have been helped by that person.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Right, I never.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Would believe a dude, including myself, Like I don't pat
myself on the back of the shit on purpose because
it's like one I don't even to be honest, I
don't even think in the way of like we need.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Need to I need to help these latest.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
You know, I don't even think like that, just because
I just find that to be a.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
It's such a weird way.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
It's like how I don't want to be friends with
a white person that's always thinking of like how they
can help me because I'm black.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
At some point, I would like to just be a
roderick for you who is black, and that is it, Like,
we don't need to I do.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
I'm not a charity case for you. I'm not a
cause for you. I don't need to be taken under
your wing. I don't need you to check on me
when George Floyd dies. Like, that's just the That's the
way I navigate my life. And so I tend to
think of everybody's marginalization that way. And I know some
people don't. They get down differently. This is just how
rod Get is down. I can't like, if something happens,

(19:45):
I don't think of like like when we do our
segment on LGBTQ News, I'm like, like, I'm not like
and then this person is gay to listen to the
show and I know this person is my friend in
real life and they trans and.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
No, right, just what's right? What's wrong?

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Period?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
What's fair to people? What's about freedom?

Speaker 2 (20:06):
That's how I navigate, and I think it's the best
way to navigate.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Agreed.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
But the sad part.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Is there are people who want folks to speak up
in the way that this dude was speaking up. They
want him, they want people to be like and this
is why we must talk about consent. And this is
why we must do and so many times these motherfuckers
are just wrapping themselves in this cloak that is just

(20:33):
I'm gonna be doing some foul shit. But you look
at what how I've monetized my image, how I've like
cultivated myself, And it's just like a I'm a charity
case for just making sure these women are safe, and
it does fucking suck.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
There's two there. There's victims here.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
That are obviously blake lively, obviously women, but there's also
a victim of the public trust of like, yo, there
should be some people speaking up and being the opposite.
And then you just find out, oh, it's just a hustle.
And the main people that like to bag on these
people to me are the worst fucking people, your people

(21:12):
who are just openly fucked up, misogynistic assholes who will
then go, We'll see, uh, that's why you can't trust
these male feminists and all this shit anyway, So these
females need to get back in the kitchen and suck
my dick.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
And I'm like, you're no fucking better.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I don't know why you think like anyway, it's just
I hate shit.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Like this is my point, go ahead, carey, I'm with it.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
And it's very frustrating.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
And this is why, you know, if somebody's gonna speak up,
they're gonna speak up. But also in everything, people always
find they hustling things. They find a hustle in this,
they find a hustle in social justice, they find a
hustle in politics, like you always gonna find people to
get in it and find something of a hustle in
it to money to cover up.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Other shit they doing.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Like and when these people get the lights shine on them,
it just kind of breaks things down.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, it sucks.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
And I mean because they have this because there are
a lot of people in all these places that are
doing good things, but everybody ignores the fuck out of
them until something bad happens.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
When I was, you know, at Game Theory, there's people
women that are like professional writers and comedians and they
will tell you, like certain guys that they're like, oh yeah,
this dude is actually really cool behind the scenes or
what like, they helped me out.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
In my career.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
They don't. They not creepy.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
They weren't asked for anything, nothing ever was inappropriate. They're
just a good person that has decided to use their
power to like uplift certain people. But if you look around,
they not making a living out of it, meaning they
ain't got a podcast, they're not writing a book or
article of blogs and not putting it in all their
stand up shows. They just help people and then they
just leave it the fuck alone, like they're like a

(22:57):
white privileged fullback or whatever, just a man who's just like, hey,
let this woman do blank and it's just.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Leave it at that eye and then they going by
their business.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah I remember, uh. And this is a small example.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
It's not to pat myself on the back, but it's
something to point out to be like, it's it's such
a little thing. But we had a meeting and everybody
was being very aggressive at the meaning everybody was pitching
their jokes. Everybody was talking about how this piece should
go this way and that way. And I believe a
piece was written by I believe it was written by
two of the women that worked there. I think it

(23:32):
was Heaven and Alena, and everybody was just talking so
fucking much, and Elena was like like, yeah, well and
then someone will start talking. Yeah, ended it and someone
started talking, and so I you know, got loud basically
was like, hey, what about this idea?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
And everybody turned.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Towards me and got quiet, and I said, Elena, what
are you gonna say? And so like, it's a little thing,
isn't It ain't changed the world, I don't you know it.
But the point being like that, to me, that's a
little thing you can do to help somebody that's not
gonna it's not making you no money. I'm only talking

(24:10):
about on the podcast for this example. I'm you know, everyone,
every person could do it like this isn't something like man,
what a you know, you gotta give a hundred million
dollars or something. But stuff like that I think means
more because it's from a genuine place and you don't
get anything out of it, as opposed to you know,

(24:32):
this shit that's so flashy.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Oh look at how I'm helping these down trodden women
and I'm educating men. I'm gonna beat the voice and
ain't trying to be a piece of shit. It's just
like damn bro.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, And it's one of those things where, like you said,
little things like that that actually matters to people, because
we've read studies and statistics show that when men start talking,
people just look up at them. And when women talk,
they're one hundred percent gonna be interrupted by man if
it's men around them. Like a lot of times women
don't even on podcasts, they don't finish their sentences, they
don't finish their statements, they don't finish their thoughts, and

(25:05):
a lot of times they have to be very aggressive,
which people call you a bitch and asshole to ask
that shut the fuck out and let me talk, like
like you have to almost demand the room, and sometimes
you have demanded hard. Sometimes you have to demand it
several times and depended on the man. Sometimes you got
to tell him to calm the fuck down, because a
lot of men when women are very aggressive and they're
trying to get their point out, particularly if it's something

(25:26):
that they don't agree with, a lot of times they
try to get loud as a form of intimidation, and
you got to let them know, no, nigga, I'm not
fucking scared of you, And sometimes it can become an
unnecessary altercation because.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
The men just don't want to listen.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
The next one is sean people are trying to react
the way they are reacting to Blake Lively and Amber
her Many people have read a book with a story
near the beginning of a woman who has told the truth.
She grabs the truth, despite it being the opposite of
the lives she's been fed all her life. She then
acts with bravery and finds knowledge and freedom through define
a tyrant. Not only that she selfishly acts to free

(26:00):
man as well. And we are tired from a young
age that the tiring is the hero and that we
should condemn Eve for her insolence. Definds in God the
fuck that bitch ethos es central to how many people
are brought up, so it is unsurprising that it's so
readily accepted by so many people.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
It is, yo, it really is, And.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
There's something in people that like already, I feel like
people kind of can't wait to be mean, Like it's
just something in all of us.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
It's just human nature, and especially mean towards people that
they are jealous of, or they feel like have more
than they should have.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I think a lot of this is the celebrity culture stuff,
you know, like why as soon as you hear one
bad thing about Lizo, you're ready to be like, well,
she did everything and she has accused us. She's a
terrible person, right, and it's never like a that's weird,
that goes against the opposite of that every fucking thing
she's ever done or said. Yes, And I'm gonna wait
until I get a little bit more clarity before throwing

(26:58):
this woman in the fucking trash, because hey, maybe it's
not as simple as as what she's accused of, but
you know, it's it's we want to kind of hate her,
so it's like, yeah, your fat bitch or whatever, and
next thing you know, it's like, damn, but Liz O
is persona non grata or whatever, and and that stuff works.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's why some of these civil lawsuits, just the filing
of the lawsuit is enough for most people, for not
most before a contingent of people of the filing is enough.
Like whatever your retort is, whatever evidence is lacking or
not lacking, it don't matter.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
It's like there's enough. You're fucked up. So anyway, all
that stuff to say, it definitely is weaponized, and it's
an easy lift to just be like, hey, we're fucking
hating Olivia wild now secretly she must be a bitch.
Like it's just like I don't know that we that

(27:54):
anything for sure? Is that reason?

Speaker 4 (27:56):
But right, but here we are.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Meanwhile, she's going through a divorce and a very public
divorce with the dude from Ted Lasso.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
He could he have hired that PR firm?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Could you know?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Could it be that simple?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
And to see the actual text messages, it really makes
you realize, like, yo, this shit is not even.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
That well organized. The one thing they had right was when.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
His lawyer put out a statement and said, well, he
of course I think it was a lie, but it
was like, we didn't need to do much because the
internet did it for us. I do believe that part,
but I don't think that means they didn't hire that firm.
He didn't come out and say we didn't hire that firm.
So I think you do have to start the spark.
But it don't take much to hate a woman. Nope,

(28:42):
even he says the blake. A lot of this stuff
confused me when it was going on, because I didn't
understand what she did wrong. Runner Rafael says this episode
is another reason amongst many, while The Blackout Test is
the best podcasts in the world, Playout was right about
it all along for one last time.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
In twenty twenty four. Everyone listen and have a great
and successful twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, let me find that clip for running Raphael uh
because he loves to give me work.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
We've been right up about all that.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Yes that time yes.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
On YouTube.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Happy Person six point twenty left for comment and said,
became a fan of yours from you co hosting on
Karen Hunters Show.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Now I following you and your wife. Huge fan.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Karen Hunter.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
My mom says, awesome deep dive into the manipulation of
society through social media.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
The manipulation of our moms to social media is dangerous. Agreed.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Drag Anne says Karen fired up today, good show. I
love a banner segment.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Thank you, Thank you. Amy says I'm new to the channel.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I love your insights and analysis on these online hate campaigns.
Harden how people can be easily manipulated to be the
worst of themselves online while claiming to be righteous. That
last part is that's the sickness if you If if
it can make you feel righteous to give into your
worst inclinations, then then you can You are capable of
some horrible behavior because you feel vindicated. You know, It's

(30:24):
like on a deeper spiritual level. And I know it's
not necessarily the exact same, but it's like when people
were rooting for the dude that killed the ceo on
the street that like, and everybody who had any misgivings
about it was essentially like, you know, fuck you, Like
should you okay with these CEOs? What about people that's
being denied healthcare? Like the dude was like going to

(30:46):
people house and da in the healthcare himself.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Personally, you gonna, yeah, I get it, but y'all somebody died.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
They was like, no, But the point isn't whether or
not there's a reason to go out and randomly just
shoot him up the fucker that's a CEO of some company.
It becomes the question kind of becomes about what does
that do to your internal biology and makeup?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Like what does that do to you? You know?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
It's it's it's like how violence leaves a stain. I
remember talking about this when Will Smith slapped Chris Rock
and the fact that there are people who you know,
clutch their pearls over Will Smith slapping Chris Rock and
can't even believe Will Smith has a career to this day.
But a dude killed a whole fucking random CEO that

(31:35):
he didn't know on the streets, and they're like, I
don't even understand why people be upset.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
That just says something about us.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
But it's like violence does stain the soul the bit,
and I think we're all a bit stained and society
has done that. And I'm not one to like make
a grand stand. I'm not really like, I just I
get it, but I don't necessarily want to be of it.
I'm just more of a like that's up. That's unfortunate,
Like that doesn't it's not gonna save anybody's insurance, it's

(32:05):
not gonna help anybody specifically. But I understand why people
feel so cold about it, you know anyway, all that
stuff to say like if you feel righteous, you can
do a lot and what no one has really said
or put the common thread together, and I'll put it
together right now, which.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Is or I haven't seen people say it.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
What I continue to see when I see that CEO
shooting is a white man who had a gun and
felt justified to go and execute a person judge jury
executioner right there from his purview and justify with his
manifesto and go to jail or whatever, right, I don't

(32:55):
see him much different than Dylan Ruth. I don't see
him much different than school shooters. I don't see him
much different than the kid that shot up that Kroger
full of black people.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
They all thought they were justified, and access to weapons.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
And whatever their ideology is makes it seem like to
them this is a reasonable thing to go do to people.
And I am hesitant to ever have the back of people,
especially white men with guns in America, as if no,

(33:33):
those actions are okay, because this time I kind of do.
I don't like the healthcare system, so in this case,
yeah kill a way, I actually.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Don't feel that way.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
And it's important because this is the one I think
that helps justify the others to people like I think,
you know, the same way we go.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
We shouldn't glorify to these people to shoot up to
the schools.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
We probably shouldn't glorify anybody to just randomly go take
somebody's life. And yes, I am saying random because in
this case, it's not that this guy did something to
this dude, like I think what he symbolized, he killed
a symbol, but it's the symbols.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
A person agreed.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
So all that stuff to say is when you feel righteous,
you can justify pretty much anything. And there's a lot
of people being justified a lot of terrible shit, include
all the way up to slavery and shit. Because they
just felt like, I'm just I'm doing this for the blast.
I'm civilizing these blacks, I'm helping them, I'm taking them
from their savage country bringing them over here, and I'm

(34:35):
giving them religion. But you're enslaving and brutalizing and raping
and torturing and killing people, you know. So anyway, I'm
I'm very much the same as everyone else in that
I'm not gonna bend over backwards. I'm not trying to
make this point everyone. I'm not gonna fight anybody about it.
But you know, I just think when we when we

(34:58):
think we're being righteous, can do some horrible things we can.
Quad Stone says Christmas as an older age is not
as important. But happy holidays, guys, if you say so.
I don't know what that is pertaining to exactly, but
uh yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I guess, uh.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Another person, I guess I need to start supporting y'all
so y'all can turn on the heat card look like
she's freezing.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
I'm always freezing, baby into what y'all don't believe Roger
and Rogers say.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
I'm always I'm literally always cold, y'all.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm a high this user from channel We're done seeing
any more comments. I hope you enjoyed of one comment,
I'm always cold blocked. Uh some Next is gonna be
Roger's face when Karen's talk some some bullshit, y'all.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Don't get tired of leaving the same comment. Also, I
guarantee this person didn't support us. I guess I need
to start supporting.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Well, did you? Where's the check? Where's the money?

Speaker 4 (35:59):
The five?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
So it's the dollars? Where's the support? Nigga?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
A happy person in six already read that? All right,
Well that's it for that episode except for the poe.
Do you judge people for not waiting for everyone to
be served before eating at a restaurant?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Thirty percent?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Sixty no? Nice?

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Sixty nine nice?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
All right, y'all, let's get into no voicemails. So I
think that means we'll do emails next.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Okay, I want to make my mom a proud You

(37:04):
guys are not doing anything with your life. You may
not see it, but I'm trying to do I'm trying
to accomplish something, and you guys are preventing me from that.
All y'all haters like I'm trying to accomplish my dreams.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
If you don't like me, just block me.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
I didn't do anything to you, all right, Let's see
we got it fiveways? Makes me laugh.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
That's how it feels whenever they write in with the
same dumb ass, not funny thing that they notice I'm
always wrapped up in my thug and y'all, it always
feels like they're not a real fan.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
So you're not a real fan then, so you ain't
heard this every week. Somebody gotta be the dumb ass
every week, Brashatt says.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
High rid of Karen Love the show. Y'all really helped
me get through this the work week. I just wanted
to share it. I love to band to song. I
repeatedly rewind it just so I can groove a little
bit more.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
That's shit. Hits wish y'all a happy holiday, Happy New Year.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Breath, thank you, and it does bang. It really does
a lot.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yep, it really does. Shout out to Isabalu E s
A B A l U. You can find her music
on Spotify, you can follow her on social media. But yeah,
she she she put her whole foot in there.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
And did she put up flipping that ship? Yes, Sir.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Aaron said smug Mode activated, Hey, Rod and Karen. I
actually was a big supporter of Justin Baldoni. Jamie Heath,
co host, was an active listener of his podcast. I
really loved him bringing in men and women from all
walks of life talking about changing and deconstructed masculinity. I
was even gonna start reading this book. I'll admit I
was a bit on his side versus Blake Lively, but
I did think it was weird that he was the

(38:43):
only one by himself during the press run. And I
believe listening to y'all help me take a step back
and wait for the facts.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Instead of rushing to conclusions. That's what we're here for. Listen,
let us be the different podcast.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Listen, ninety podcasts gonna tell you jumped to some conclusions
and that and let.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
It be the worst thing ever. So look, we part
of the three percent that's out here like we can.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Wait and see, Yeah, we can't wait. We ain't always
got to be the first.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I think that's a good thing. At least you're getting
all kinds of opinions in your ears.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Right.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
I'm just really upset and shocked, honestly, because he's done
all this work to combat taxic masculinity and reach consent
just to be like all the men he claim not
to behave. Like yes, also that thing too, where a
lot of people that decide to quote unquote teach are
fighting their own inner demons in battles, which is why

(39:34):
they feel like they're the I mean, like it's the
old cliche of like people that become therapists are the
ones that need the most therapy, or people that become psychologists.
A lot of it is because they're trying to figure
out their own mental health stuff, and.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
So then it's like, let me get into this field.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Maybe by fixing it, learning how to fix myself and
other people, I'll become a better person or something. And
oftentimes they're in the midst of their own struggles and stuff,
and it's why it's the cliche of like, oh, I
went to this this person for advice and they turned
out to be the verson that needs advice.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
It's like if you go on TikTok or these people
that have books and stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Most of the people giving relationship advice are people you
would never want to be in a fucking relationship with.
They're like, you know, cause they and they're working through
it themselves, but they're working through it in front of
all of us. But a lot of them don't know
what the fuck they talking about either, like not all
of them, but something. It's like they don't have the
thing that they're telling you you need to have. Look
at Kevin Samuels, for example, he didn't have any of

(40:36):
the shit he was leveling the other people that they
needed to have, right, you know.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
So it is what it is to where.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I think a guy like this can brand himself as whatever,
but the truth comes out and how you treat other
people when no one's around and doing shit like this.
And I think also the last thing I'll say about
this guy, I feel like as a dude because I'm
not that from with his work, but as a dude
who I'm sure was trying to be the voice and

(41:08):
the good example. I bet you he panicked so fucking
hard when he was about to be exposed. Yes, because
there seems to have been a way where he could
have just either admit it wrong and whatever, change his
behavior or whatever, or at least.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Not went on the attack. The fact that he went
on the attack and her to make her.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Unbelievable before she could even get a word out about him,
it just says something about his own panic around his
image and what it was going to do to his image.
And that's how you end up justifying being a horrible
person like this, because I don't you know, you haven't
really heard much from him since, and I have a
lot of updates, like his co host on his podcast quit.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Yeah, that's right, because he was doing the podcast with
the other another lady, right.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
His agency dropped on like this shit is big, Like
you people, this isn't a he said, she said, and
we believe he This is a he said, she said,
and we.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
All think she telling the truth. So you know, the
dominoes are falling around this guy.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I'm not sure how the podcast will be affected or
even if they will address it, but it's very disappointing
to hear. Well, he gonna have to address it because
she gets calls quick. Thanks for always reading the facts
and giving us all the information. That's why I thank
y'all the best podcast. Aaron, thank you, er, thank you.
We try, man, I really do.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Yeah, Roger be doing the work. I have to get
you credit. I'm not gonna take the creditword for you
on that Roger be doing. I know to try to
take coke credit, but I can't on that one.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Brooklyn Shoe Babe says dear Rod.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I finally got around to find Eclipse of You on
the Karen Hunter Shaw found him on YouTube. For some reason,
I thought it was only by a subscription on Serious
Exam AnyWho. I really enjoyed the Rachel True piece about
her Tarror cards Terror Cards.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Over the past two years, I've been learning and practicing
lots of Tarot readings. I only do readings on myself.
It was comforting to see Rachel talk about what Drew
heard of tarot and tackling people's misconceptions that.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Has to do with the devil. It made my day. Thanks. Yeah,
I enjoyed it. I didn't do anything but just sit
there and hang out.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
You know, they booked Rachel True as a guest, and
like all black men of a certain age, you know,
Rachel True is one of the like tent pole like
black woman.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Crushes that every brother has to have.

Speaker 6 (43:31):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Well, yeah, it's just I just feel like, you know, between.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
The fuck now I'm drawing a blank on the movie
about the the Witches, oh god, but yeah, I believe
the craft. Between the Craft and Half Baked, I mean
c before h Yeah, she's just one of those half

(44:00):
and half. Of course, she's just one of those like
all time, like black Woman crushed goals and so you know,
I just was sitting there smiling like, uh, not that
I don't appreciate the tarot stuff, but as she could
have been telling me about anything, it could have been
double worship.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I didn't care. I would have just been there smiling like,
oh my god, Rachel.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
But nah, she was real cool man, and I appreciated
the stuff she was talking about with politics and really
having a voice on social media and using her voice.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I just thought that was so cool.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
All right, let's get into the mail and then we'll
do Spotify Wrap to end everything. Okay, lots of mail,
lots of male yay, uh, lots of Let's start with
the cards.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Lots of cards this year yay.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
Y'all found us, Thank you. I like the cards.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yep. Let's see here the first one behind you, and
the winner is why holiday theme card.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Trying to find a teleprompter, it goes to.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Let's say this one's me. It says, with this tree,
uh so, this tree is them marry everything, And on
the inside it says, ps, I had sheets balance ball
sent separately. PPS.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
No pressure to read the Christmas letter, but y'all get
a shout out on page one. You might like the
book recommendations at the end.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Hello, Rod and Karen.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
I think of these diverse trees representing all your listeners,
and we are all.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
We all shine brighter because of you.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Thank you for all your time, care, compassionate love, Marry Christmas, Lisa,
Thank you Lisa.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
And yeah the letter is too.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
It's too dnse and long to read all of it
that y'all can see, but I will read it privately later.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I appreciate you. Let's see what else we got here.
We got another card and this time it opens easily.
The Stutso family. Hope Shine's brightest. Love the show. Oh
Hope time rights doing the holidays, Love the show. And

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if you look at this beautiful family, I.

Speaker 6 (46:30):
Don't love the hout the family photos on their babies
and the kids.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
How y'all get all the kids a smile?

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
What's the secret? What is the secret al raising healthy
kids over there? So what's happening? That's how you get
on the smile and the pictures that act right? All
these kids are like they acting right, right, y'all.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
Probably some treats afterwards, right.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Wishing you a holiday season filled with peace, joy and
fiery resolve, Mark, k Oliver, George and Violey.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Come on, firey resolve.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Thank you appreciate this. This is nice.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Oh my goodness, going into the card stock pal u.
Let's go to the next one.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Uh and this one all.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
First of all, I'm pretty sure I know this person.
This is Erica who we met, we ran into in
publics and she got her fur baby.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Oh that's adorable.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
And it says happy holidays, wishing you and yours more life,
more love, more everything love, Erica, Thank you, Erica, thank you.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
And it didn't say the dog's name, but thank you
to the dog as well. Okay, I understand that. You
know it's hard to get dogs to pose for pictures.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Looking gazed or something.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Now here go another one of these mahoganies that I
that y'all be finding.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Come on on, how y'all know it?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Mahoganists, y'all gonna get to the mahogany section. We keep
in a mahogany section in business with one podcast at
a year at a time.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Glad that'd be glad. They'd be like, we're gonna sell
some of them with hockety cards.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Let's see, wishing you and yours every little sweet and
beautiful joy of the season. And then the writing from
the personal is, uh, we get through it or we
got through it. I guess wishing you health and happiness
in twenty twenty five many from Cali trying to print
so Rod can read.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Thank you Rod and Karen.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Thank you all for the last information and thought provoking
talk this year. Sometimes you are the only voice of
reason in the day. This election cycle was brutal, but
you helped oh us get through. Oh so it went
to the top. Okay, it helped you helped us get
through it. Wish you health, happiness, betweenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Oh, thank you, thank you. That is so nice. M h.
Let them look cartoon blacks. Okay, big fan, big fan
of them.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
All.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Right, let's see we got some more this one is
from Ebony. It says happy holidays. Joy I believe with
the black and white it says it's the most wonderful
time of the year.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
May your days be married. Your challenge is manageable, and
your cocktail always just right.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Cheers. That ship should be an ad for some type
of alcohol, right and your cock I feel like Billy
d Williams co Mayo, mayo days be married. Your challenge
is manageable and your cocktails always just right. Slitch my

(49:34):
looking bull. It'll get you drunk.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
It's your will.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Look at this little squirrel in a in a Christmas hat.
Now is this a person's pet squirrel? They just put this.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
It's just part of the thing because it's like this
picture is like you kind of tell it's like taped
on here or something like part of the family. Yeah,
happy holidays. Riding and Karen from me and chie Chie
the squirrel, Oh so it.

Speaker 6 (50:04):
Is and show squirrel. Sl said that that squirreling like
it's part of the family. Holy shit, how you get
the square steels? Ain't no like thing on the back
that says, like, you know, like a bar code or something.
It's not a card that was bought. This moe fucking handmade.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
They have a fucking pet squirrel that they got to
sit still with a Santa Claus hat and take a picture.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
Come on and throw you in the squirrel.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
How do you even do that?

Speaker 4 (50:28):
I don't know. Squirrels move around a lot.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Me and Chee Chee the squirrel, we often listening to
you together in my backyard at Oakland.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Chee Chee.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Thanks. Karen's puns are nuts.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
I think, thank you, chi Chie. Well you know what,
chi Chi?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
I think her puns are a bit a corny? Should
I say a corny? Have a great New Year's if possible?
Side machine bowl?

Speaker 1 (50:56):
You know what we're not. We ain't signed.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
We're gonna We're gonna go into the year. We're gonna
make make it good. Yes we is positive affirmation. This
one says Merry Christmas with a bunch of beautiful designs
on it. Our family wishes you and you wish is yours,
wish is yours? Joy A piece today tomorrow, always Happy holidays, Tory,
Eli and Taylor and look at oh the Then they

(51:20):
include a picture. Now, this is a dope ass photo
shoot right here?

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Y'all did that? Okay?

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Come on, y'all went to the glam of shots.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Okay, you got the black dress working. Okay, everybody coordinated.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
You told them, y'all ain't gonna make me look bad
in this photo.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Okay. I know you got them up early and made
sure they got they was in there.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
The press and everything. You them babies smelled like coco powder.
You was like, we gonna take this picture for y'all.
Get the running around and sweating.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah, you y'all.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
You made them change out of them clothes and they
got home immediately them not they play clothes.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
No, Okay, I can smell this picture. I can, and
I just not can.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
I mean in a good way. Yes, I can spress
cut this is coco butter. Yes, y'all y'all look amazing.
I love that beautiful family. Yeah, beautiful family, speaking of
beautiful people. Happiest holidays. Wishing you the best in twenty
twenty five and beyond. Coritha, Coritha and Greg and Craig

(52:17):
Team Kojo who Professor Caritha listening to the show. She's
all a frequent contributor to The Karen Hunter Show. You
know she's she's got our like poster up in her office.
She'd be running, you know, eternally young looking.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
I don't know how old.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yeah, just like Karen Karen Hunter, I have no idea
how old.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
I have no idea. You could be twenty five, one
hundred and fifty. I don't know, and I'm not even guess.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I only know that she says she old, right, But
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
I'm like, if you had to, I would lose a
lot of tech to test if I had to guess.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Ain't that the truth? Oh?

Speaker 1 (52:56):
No, our girl nick Ju with the Christmas photo, she
got the full tree everything way baby, Merry Christmas. Exes
and o's Nicole, thank you? Nicole?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Does xces and os mean like your exes? And it's
very clever because it's spelled e x E S XS
and O, So you know she's clever. She wanted them
smart people, the.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Real smart people, all right. And then this one is
from Catcha. Let me open this thing up. Oh wait,
this one is.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Oh, it's just one that didn't get delivered, so I
guess it was undeliverable and they send it to us
instead of her. I'm sorry, Catcha. If you're looking for
a car because we got it. I don't know what
that's about.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Oh all right. And then the last two things our packages.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
So let me see if I can open knee it's
I believe it's from Amazon with my handed dandy trusty.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Letter opener that I bought.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
I mean, not let her open her box cutter, in
case somebody try to run up on me, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Gotta let them know.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
It's not just for opening presents, also for opening veins. Okay,
fuck with me if you won't.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Uh, there we go. And of course that's not as
simple as opening it, but it's all right. This is
why we go to the gym. So you can just
rip the package opening fuck it so you can be strong, all.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Right, opening it up inside it didn't have a piece
of paper to tell us who is from.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Okay, like a candle, little cook.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
It is a candle. It is after dark, mahogany tink teak.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Soy candle, Come on through, soy candle.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
This ship is m It's flavorful, it's soid.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Candles do have a strong smell mm.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Hmm that mahogany teak, just like I like my women.
After dark mahogany anteak.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
You.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Double checking. There's no thing in the box of like
who it's from. So I'm sorry if you know right in,
let us know if it was for you. But here's
one of the stickers that that person didn't get. Because
that package didn't get to them.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
That's very weird. Did they even try to deliver it?
I don't even see like a postage mark on it.
I don't know. I'm gonna try to throw this ship
back in the mail. Hopefully you'll get it. All right,
we had one more package. Hold on, this is a
bit bigger, a bit, a big, a bit bigger.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Okay, that's really big time, gonna take up the whole screen.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Yeah, let me go ahead, and the bad boy up.
You got my money, man, I gotta teach them.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Johnny's got a knife. Be cool. But boy boy, crazy boy. Hey,
shout out to the musical people out there.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
It is a balance board Urban Fit balance board. Doesn't
Karen put this on the list. Let's see if she
uses it.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
It's made for balance training and core workouts at home,
work or the gym.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I go, I see these at the gym we have.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
I have not graduated to the balance board workout yet,
but I think it's the thing you stand on and
you know, make sure you can like it's a ball
on the bottom and it rolls basically to keep it
like to keep from falling over, you gotta like use.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Your legs and your core.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
He keep your balance.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Yeah, we'll see a Karen has a collecting dust or
if it's actually getting used. I wasn't sure which items
were rods versus Karen, so I tried to send.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Stuff you both could use with love and tremendous gratitude. Lisa,
Thank you, Lisa, thank you, and we are tremendously grateful.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
All Right, that's it for the mail section of the show.
Let's do Spotify Wrapped and we'll wrap this episode up.
So every year Spotify sends out a wrap.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
You guys, use your wrap.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
I'll see it all the time where it's like we
listen to black out tips and sometimes it's like, oh,
we you know this is the music I listened to. Well,
they send one to people that make podcasts as well,
and this year I did go through it. I didn't
find it as detailed and fun as the last few years,
but you know, for posterity sake, we're.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Gonna go through it anyway.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
It says fans are really loving your show. In twenty
twenty four, you took a whole new level.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Blah blah blah. We gained thirty two percent listeners.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Wow in in this in this year, in just twenty
twenty four, thirty two percent more people listen to the show.
That's crazy. It also says streams. So streams, let's see
thirty seven percent more streams.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
Well, I wonder what streams mean.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
People listening like streaming it like people, So a listener
is per person. Streams are like I think, how many
more people stream it? They might not follow us or
they might not okay show at a time, But we
have more streams this year than we had last year.
I got you, which is interesting because thirty two percent

(58:37):
people's listenings thirty seven percent stream I guess thirty that
means a lot of people chose to stay. Of those
new people, and we gained ten percent more followers. Yeah,
we love to see it. Let's see what else we
got here. Give it up for your new fans, our
new fans. Fifty of our listener discovered us this year.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
Who would have thunk that? How was that?

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Shout out to y'all, man, shout out to us, just working,
keeping our head down and doing what we do. More
people still growing this much at this stage in the
podcast is crazy, y'all don't understand it. Nuts Well, we've
been doing this for fifteen years basically to still be like, yeah,
and the show's getting bigger is it'sn't the same thing,

(59:29):
but I appreciate it. Your fans have a clear favorite.
Top episode was twenty eight ninety eight Drake Not Like Us.
That was a big time for us.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Yeah was.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
People really enjoyed the Drake content this year. It also
our number one thing on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
Damn this number right here.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
It was streamed nine hundred ninety nine percent more than
your average episode.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Y'all was sharing the shit out of this.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
People was looking for somebody that content. Oh my god,
what I see why these hip hop podcasts be doing well?

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Right? I really should start one. I didn't realize people
was just ravenous for some hip hop talk. Ever, wonder
who your audience is. Let's break it down. We'll break
in down. Listeners by age eighteen to twenty four three percent.
So the young people, they don't listen to show that much. Okay,
three percent of though, twenty five to twenty nine eight percent. Okay,

(01:00:26):
they just getting their feet in the world. Okay, thirty
to thirty four, thirteen percent. But now we're hitting our demographics.
About our age, Yeah, about our age forty two percent,
thirty five to forty four, forty five to fifty four,
that's twenty four percent of our listening base and fifty
five and older ten percent. And I feel like those

(01:00:48):
numbers have grown for us specifically, I want to thank
Karen Hunter because like a lot of people that got serious,
they got lives and jobs and responsibilities, and they do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
They're a little bit older.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
They listen to to rest was not to rest your
but they listen to radio right instead of just podcasts
all the time. And so yeah, those people who are older,
I think have come on for Karen Hunter, and they've
given us a chance. Now I think a lot of
them stuck around and liked it. Yes, yay, listeners ages
fifty five plus grew about the most by seventy percent.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
Yep. Shout out to the older people y'all found us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
I just gotta be Karen Hunter.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Where in the world have you been?

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
In twenty twenty four year show Travel the Globe? You
were streamed in sixty two countries. United States was our
top country. But then it didn't really break down. See
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Last year they would have given us like a here's
all the countries you listened.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
To break down, top five, top ten. Yeah, this is
where the people need to come in to give more
because they got the statistics, but they.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Just opted not to put them in this They kind
of half assed this year. Yes they did.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Your fans have great taste. Obviously other than your show,
they also loved. This is why I'm like, sometimes I'll
be like, I know I'm really hurting the brand the
way that I talk about other people's podcasts when I
don't like something they said or did.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
But I gotta be true. I gotta be me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
And I'm sure we know a lot of them cross
and I'm sure she was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
On the other foot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
They these motherfuckers don't hold their tongue and that's why
people like them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Great.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I'm not gonna hold mine and hope people like me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Fuck it if you don't like the show, because I'm like,
they be talking about some bullshit. Oh well, anyway, The
Read number one, who you know, They're obviously not a
podcast I've ever talked bad about. But the Joe Button
Podcast I've shot some strays. Okay, they be doing stuff,
but number one with people that listen our shows to

(01:02:42):
Read number two, Joe Button Podcast, number three High Learning
with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay, which is so funny
because we literally had people right into the show to
be like, what you think about this? And I'll be like,
I you should have wrote this to Van Lathan right like,
clearly he said something you didn't like right in. Don't

(01:03:02):
they got an email or something. Hit this nigga up
on Twitter, see if he'll respond to you the right time.
Bomani Jones always great.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Company to be in and the Breakfast Club. Not surprised,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
I always say, man like, people talk about these other
shows like they're completely separate. But I think as a listener,
people listen to all kinds of shit. It doesn't necessarily
mean they agree or disagree. Right, people listen to our
show and they don't agree. People listen to these other
shows and they do agree, and vice versa.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
All the time. Music. The number one thing people listen
to that listen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
To our show musically is pop number one, R and
B number two, number three rap and it's kind of
me in the opposite order.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Audio books.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
They listen to sci fi and fantasy, biography and memoirs
and history, and they also listen to black out tips.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
But they didn't just listen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Seventy three percent of our audience watch video on Spotify
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
This is Spotify trying to get us.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
I said, we got video. No, oh okay, this is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Spotify trying to tell us you yualls should make your
podcast in.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
The video shay, I make that shit simpler to put
on there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
No, Karen doesn't upload or do any of this type
of work, guys, So just I don't ignore me, So.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Just don't don't don't pay attention.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
To Please don't take me serious level here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
That's completely different reasons that I don't upload video to Spotify,
and that's it's not because it's too complicated.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Shout out to your biggest fans for keeping you at
the top of your game.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
We're a top ten podcast for three point five six
thousand fans, three thousand and five and sixty we're top
five for two thousand and seven hundred fans, and we're
the number one podcast for drum Row one thousand and
one point three four K fans, and our top fans
listen to us ten times more than other listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Shout out to the top fans.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
The going back through the archives, we see, y'all, what
kind of creator are we? We are?

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
So they created some type of graphic where damn, we're
at the top of everything. That was crazy, like they
created a triangle graphic that was like how long did
your episode live?

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
How frequently do you put out? How you know whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
And we are we were at the top of the
triangle in each direction anyway to create a personality.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Just storyteller is what we're Okay in classifying us as
do they say what that means?

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
I don't know, but I guess we are a storyteller type.
I would not necessarily say that's what we are just
because I mean, we talked pop culture and news and
current events. But sure, your fans have entered the conversation.
We had seventy six comments and three Typhoid Maryland was

(01:05:51):
the most commented episodes, and we got five point six
k and this is. Keep in mind we stopped being
hosted on Spotify using a post and the comments a
while ago, so this number would have been a lot bigger.
Your most popular poe was SNL Nikki Haley on S
and L. Your podcast rating four point nine percent. The

(01:06:13):
Blackoutis podcast. It says at the end, thank you for
giving people something to talk about, but keep the conversation going,
and then it basically says share like with your fans
these numbers and graphics and your Spotify wrapped which I'll
put on social media.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
But you know it was cute. It's not as good
as it used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
And I miss the days of it being more detailed
because I think we had more fun when we had
the more detailed stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Yeah, like you said with the countries it but last
year and before it would like break down like each
of the like maybe top five or top ten countries,
like it would give you stats.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Then it would just be a little bit more detailed.
And that's just Spotify. I don't think we do. We
don't got one with Apple last I don't know how
to do the one with Apple anything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I think what it is is that they basically probably
got AI doing it, and they and a lot and
the people that did it probably don't do it as much,
and that's probably what who cared a little bit more,
that's probably what changed everything for the details and the
human aspect. And I felt the same way about my
rap personally, like this is not as personal as it

(01:07:17):
used to be, in detailed as it used to be,
and the things that were very intriguing and unique aren't
in here. And it it feels like they put some
some some numbers into a machine, and a machine sped
out some stuff, especially when it was like your listening
style is southern grandmother who likes confettive.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
I'm like, I don't. This just feels like AI buzzwords right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Like this shit don't make no sense, And I do agree.
And also, uh, the way before it was it was shareable.
But before when you would flip through, you could flip
through the whole thing. Now it's like you had to
take each image just like little shit did a person
want to be like, why are we separating? It's just
put all this shit together. The machine is like, nope,
you're gonna get one page of the time. It's better
because the way they programmed it all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Right, that's it, guys. I don't know why y'all assume
it's coding here. I'm the one that's I don't be
having a blanket on. How come y'all never ask Karen
why she keep it so hot? I don't know, well,
I keep it so high. I don't like Damn. I
never see Rod with a fucking blanket on. You're over
there getting all warm and cozy, and he over here
of sweating his ass off. And conclusion, fuck y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
All right, y'all, we'll see you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
I think tomorrow we're supposed to have Don Rivera on
as a guest, and then, of course, with the holiday
and stuff throughout the week, I'm sure we'll be sporadically podcasting.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
But thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Live show tickets are still on sale. The linkers in
the show notes the the v IP tickets are sold
out for now. I will try to add some more.
I really need to think about how many more we
can add without it becoming too much, but I will
try definitely tell them to add some more, so don't

(01:09:01):
worry about that. And of course you can stream it.
You don't have to be there in person, so if
you just want to watch it, online. Those tickets are
available as well, so.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Make sure you guys do that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
And I think that's it for show notes and housekeeping
type stuff, so yeah, just you know, appreciate y'all, and
we'll be talking through y'all throughout the week. It's not
New Year yet, so we'll cross that bridge when we
get there. And yeah, until next time, I love you.