Are you really a Narcissist?

In this episode, Gandhi chats with Nick Cannon and Rip Micheals about everything from Wild ‘n Out, to viral controversy, to someone’s diagnosis that’s causing a lot of talk. They also settle a long-standing, one-sided beef, and Gandhi gets the invite of her dreams.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, Diamond, Hi, how are you great? Fabulous? Can we
talk about how we work in an environment where people
try to spy on each other but terribly.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm gonna start doing it to see if people notice
some way, because maybe we're just kind of smart.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I don't know. I mean, there's like, if I have
something to say, for the most part, you know me,
I just say it to whomever. If I have something
that I'm whispering to somebody, for the most part, I'm
gonna go into a separate studio or something and whisper.
A lot of people think that like conversations that are
salacious are just happening in the hallways, and they try
to sneak out and spy on those conversations, and it's

(00:43):
the funniest thing in the world because everyone hears a
bad spy.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's actually the funniest part about working here.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
You know, there's a lot of funny parts.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
A part of it is just like there's no way
that you're actually trying to be sneaky because it's not working.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
You're just is this a prank?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
My favorite is when somebody tries to spy but they
forget all the glass that is around, so you just
see the reflection of them like smashed up against the wall,
and I'm like, are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Wait? Can I tell you that? It took me a
while to realize that, like when I was.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Trying to spy it, it doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Me.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Spying is just going into Scotti studio because sometimes I
can hear you guys talk and if it looks like
a conversation is good, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
But you could just text me.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
I would tell you which is.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
But also it's like very dumb because like diamond is
not a secret anyway, whatever it is. But like I'll
go in and I'll act like I'm talking to him,
and now Scotty's just like, I know you're not talking
to me. They're talking about this.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
What do you want?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's hilarious. It's a funny place for so many reasons,
including our man last week artists who what did this
man do? To our Instagram page? I you're viral?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's embarrassing, but well embarrassing, it's like it's a It
has me anxious.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
My cortisol levels have not like balanced out since then.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I saw him in the hallway and I said to him, Uh,
how do you deal with this? Because every time I
open my Instagram there are comments about this video, yeah
and like, and.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
They're going at him. Man, how does he deal with this?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
He doesn't care, He loves it, he doesn't care.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
The man's been shot with hallow point bullets. You think
somebody calling him an idiot fazes him in the slightest
literally like there could be some ct there who knows.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh, there's definitely something.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's just one of those things that like people say
they don't care, like I say, I don't care about
a lot of things. But Curtis sliwa I have to
take courses if he's teaching them, because he really doesn't
give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I don't think he does. I think as you get
older you stop giving a fuck, and then probably after
you've been attacked numerous times in press and then physically,
you just don't give a fuck. I'm gonna guess that's
what it is. He's hilarious, and we have some we
have some ideas with old Curtis, who, by the way,
is literally texting me at this moment.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Block his ass. Can I tell you something to tell me?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Somebody commented under one of the videos that they saw
him a few weeks ago sleeping on the train the track.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
My thing is, when people have physically tried to take
your life, do you know.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
How much like how peaceful your life has to be,
like your inner dialogue has to be to fall asleep
in public and your.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Red Satine jacket and your comrade hat, whatever that thing is. Yeah,
man wanted to kill you and you're sleeping.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
He's a champion. He's fascinating and people have a lot
of things to say about him. And here's what I
don't think we need to say this. I think people
probably know us well enough to know this. I did not,
nor would I vote for Curtis m but I'd love
to follow him around for a day as a person,
like as a mascot to the city. Like he's incredible.
He's an amazing dude. I think he has a pretty

(03:56):
decent heart. There's some controversy around him. We're gonna get
his ass back in here to address some things, because
I'm gonna be honest. And as a quote unquote journalist
loosely used, I didn't research a lot about him because
I just thought, there's this interesting man that I interact
with in the hallway all the time. Get his ass
in here. Let's talk to him, and people have some
things to say, so I would like him to address
all the things, because you know we will. He doesn't care,

(04:18):
He doesn't have any secret. For sure, he is who
he is. But we've said enough about Curtis in multiple episodes.
That guy needs to pay us for pr If you
don't know what we're talking about, go listen to the
last episode. There are some clips on our Instagram page
at Sauce on the Side, one with Diamond specifically that
has like three hundred thousand views. By the time you
hear this is probably gonna be at like three fifty
or four hundred thousand. The ratio on that is crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Somebody commented, look at you getting ratio in it, and I
was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
No, which, like in this one, I'm okay with it.
But sometimes when it's like there are way more sense
than comments, you're like, oh shit, they be talking shit
about me. Oh no, but I'm not in the video,
so I don't care. Congratulations Simon, you are viral, you
artists and him being a.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Mighty whitey, mighty whitey, and this is gonna keep me up.
At first of all, this is gonna be one of
those things where like it'll be September your birth month, Yeah,
and I'll get like, like somebody will repost it or
something like that come across it, and it'll like start
getting more comments just when you thought it was over.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm like, things like that keep me up at night.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Oh God.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Okay, well, I hope that you are able to sleep
in your birth month over that one clip. Please go
check it out again, Sauce on the side on Instagram.
And obviously if you're listening to the podcast, you already
know where to find us here. But today we have
something else interesting going on. We have Rip Michaels and
Nick Cannon from Wilding Out. Nick Cannon from also just
the world in general, and you see him everywhere. He's

(05:44):
a man of seven thousand trades and hats whatever you
want to call him. Lots to talk to him about.
I think they're gonna be fun. I have a feeling
they are comedians. They are comedians.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
They got ready, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
We have a lot to talk to Nick and I
have beef with Rip, and I think we should just
air it out immediately. All right, All right, here we go, Hello, gentlemen.
Lots of stuff to talk about. But my first question
is how long were you guys waiting on me? Let

(06:21):
me tell you, I'm happy that you wait on me,
rip because I have beef with you, So let's talk
about it. I been waiting for years. You probably don't
even remember this. You and Justina came to Boston a
long time ago, because I've been here now for like
eight years, so this was before. So I've been carrying
this garage for quite some time.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
Wow, somebody has known you for eight years. You should feel.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Good I do.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Carrying this. Okay, So you guys were supposed to be there.
Justina was on time. You sir, showed up a little
bit later than her, and at the time I worked
for a crazy man. He was insane, so he was
going off at me. How can you not get them
here on time? After you this interview's done? And I
was like, no, these people are great, You're gonna love it.
We have to do it. So he screamed up me
for a long time. You guys came in. It was great,

(07:08):
and then I yelled at you about this. After I
didn't yell, I talked to you just what I'm talking
right now, and you said, I'm so sorry. I'm gonna
send you flowers. I have knock gotten flowers in eight years.
Oh wow, years I've been waiting on my flowers.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Are flowers.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
They will be here tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Oh I bet that's what you said last time.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
We're right downside.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
We will be here tomorrow, because I do remember when
I first saw Faced, I was like, we did Boston video, yes,
and we were super late and that was my publicier's
fault at the time, but she passed away.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Take accountability. Wait are blaming it on the dead.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
I'm not saying along with a big shout out to
at least film me. She was my fa like it was.
We worked together since the inception of everything, and now
we were running super late because she had put everything
so close and gave us the wrong time. And that's
why I was there, and I was and I'll never
forget that because she was she was red. She was like,
oh my god, and she saved that. She still allowed
us to still do the interview in Boston, and I
thank you to this.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Day for that.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Let me tell you, you must be impossible to date,
because I really thought I had something there and then
you just slid in and made me feel so bad. Right,
like you were the one that was wrong here, and
I feel bad about your publicist, and like I take
it all back.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
I'm sorry because I remember.

Speaker 7 (08:15):
I remember it distinctly, so when she said, I was like,
I remember the whole thing. It was a big deal.
It was it was really hard to get us on
the radio station, and they literally she worked her butt
off because they didn't want us, so no, no, no,
and then finally it was like fine. And then to
be late after.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
All of that is insane.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Well see now the bond is no.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Now I feel bad, So we're gonna move right on
from that and talk about you guys.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
You just blame it on your dead public.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
For being true, from being truth truthful, yeah kind of.
You guys are in New York City for what for
whiling out? Yeah, let's talk about it. Because growing up
my ultimate dream I wrote it in our journal, so
I wanted to be on MILD. Now that was it.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
And now you guys are here.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Now here's your chair, here's your cha. You can put
up to Brooklyn. Were looking at new cast as we speak.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Okay, so you're looking for new cast members like you
want somebody who's there all the time, not just a feature.
You want somebody who's there.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
All the time, right, both, both both?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
What are you looking for talent? Obviously you clearly have that.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
Somebody can get at you because you just got me clearly.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Yeah, you hold grudges.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
So many grudges. You have no idea you're looking for talent.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
You have a freestyle right now.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Go.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I got kicked out of a cipher in high school
because the boy said I was.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Too mean smiling out sound private.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
It's perfect.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
It felt like sexism to me at the time, but.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
The was hating.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Okay, I'm looking for the sauce on the side.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Hey, what specifically, like, talent wise, you're looking for? Is
there a race? Is there weight? Like? Are you looking
for a fat white guy?

Speaker 6 (09:54):
Is the record? We want a fat white Nah? That's
the thing about Wilding Out. We love all kinds, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Not.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
The more unique you are the better and that actually
shows the confidence. And we've had everyone from every community
on this show, and it's really a place to shine
because the more unique you are and the more confident
that you are in your uniqueness, that's how you become
a star on wild'n Out. Okay, Like, that's why We
really like people from the streets. We like the people

(10:28):
that you know, could never be on SNL or it
could never be on mainstream platforms. We want we want
the grimiest of the grimy. We want the oddest of
the odd We want you know, the nerds that like
are scared of microphones and cameras, because those are the

(10:48):
people that shine in our spaces.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
So it's like the more unique you are in yourself,
that's wild'n out.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay. And you guys have been out this since two thousand.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
I shot the pilot two thousand and four and it
aired on MTV in July of two thousand and five.
So we are literally what twenty one years decades.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, and you look for what you said, you want
street people, you want people who are off the beaten path. Yes,
And over the last twenty one years, I'm sure you
guys have had a lot of that, maybe some that
you might have regretted because oh, that's a little two
street for MTV. Not really, can't anyone that you've been like, damn,
we shouldn't have platformed them.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
Nah, Like we got everybody that's really like the When
you think about the people that have come through wild'n
Out and elevated from that platform, who are now like
household names and superstars. It's like they wouldn't have made
it anywhere else, or they wouldn't have been discovered anywhere
else except for on our show, because all those other
places had passed on them or didn't understand them, and

(11:53):
we kind of gave them, you know, a playground to
kind of grow and exercise and become the stars that
they are today.

Speaker 7 (11:59):
I believe that Nick will if it's funny, he with it.
Executives to be like they hated Nigga, be like keep
him there. I remember throwing powder on everybody and he
was like, ripped.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
I loved it. It was hilarious. Everybody here hates you.
I love it. Keep throwing power whatever you got. That
was great TV.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, so who did they want you to get rid
of that? You fall for?

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Ripped me.

Speaker 7 (12:18):
Literally it came to me. I could tell I was
about to be fight. I had the awkward Hey, Rip,
can we talk to you and get a second? And
literally I was walking into the office and all of
them were that was opening the door and Nick. I
don't know if they told Nick they would let me go,
but I don't know where. Nick was like, ah, I
love it, hilarious, great TV. I said, more of that,
more of that. They're gonna hate you, but I love you, man,

(12:39):
see you tomorrow, and the whole thing they was like.
I was like, so what we're gonna talk about nothing?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
The conversation with the box.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
Yes, wow, he definitely. He definitely saved my job right there,
power on somebody. Nobody had ever done that, and it
was so unexpected, like people, the cast members were mad,
the cameramen were mad. He got powder all on the
cameraman like everything, like voodoo jokes.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
Because when you woundfl I feel like Nick had set
up this whole thing where it's.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
Like w w E.

Speaker 7 (13:07):
Everybody's ar wrestled, everybody has the thing character. So I
was like, all right, you know, I'm gonna be the
slapstick guy. I see that there is no laying on
wild not no one's ever done this. I'm I'm gonna
bring this to it. And when I did it, it
just shocked every single person. And you just see Nick face.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
He's like, oh he didn't get on me.

Speaker 7 (13:21):
I'm good.

Speaker 8 (13:21):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
And the whole cast is covered in powder.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
They don't know what the powder is.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
You don't know where it came from.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
This is pre COVID though, so crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
When was this?

Speaker 7 (13:36):
It was my first episode. It was the first thing
I did.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
I was like, I'm probably gonna lose my job.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
He's twenty.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Sixteen.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Wow, Yeah, losing.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Your job for powder is kind of wild.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
Everybody was so mad, and then they will. They brought
me in the office and I didn't know. I literally
I could tell anybout the firement. And then Nick came
out of nowhere.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
I love it, and they just.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Like it's all it takes you just being like I
love it. I need you to say how much you
love this podcast?

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Love it?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Thank you?

Speaker 6 (14:04):
Twenty one seasons now, look at it.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I know that's crazy. It's well, I mean decades. You
guys have been out there.

Speaker 7 (14:08):
So you said that you're gonna get twenty one season.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Hopefully share some of this mojo.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I don't know about this mojo.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Man.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
What is the exact casting call date? Because I thought
it was today.

Speaker 7 (14:20):
No, So we're doing we took a whole bunch of
submissions and we're letting submit videos and we're gonna narrow
it down because we probably got like a thousand, maybe
fifteen hundred submissions. We're gonna narrow it down because Nick
actually looks at each one of them. He goes through
it like and he's getting DM, City Day, Rihanna, just
DM and somebody. It's like, hey, look at this person
and all the celebrities like, well my stylist is this
person that I got a funny cousin. It's it's amazing
how many entertainers will start pushing different artists that they've

(14:42):
been around him forever and give them a chance. So
we've even opened up to extended it to be longer,
so you can go ahead because Nick actually takes time
to look through each video.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
And this is how the new season is actually forming,
you know what I mean. Like usually we would do
like we're gonna do auditions in New York, and we're gonna.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Do them in LA and maybe Atlanta.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
But now we're going city to city, starting in Brooklyn
on the twenty eighth, and every show that we have
throughout the tour is going to have their own casting
audition process, and.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
That's literally going to be the show.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Like there's gonna be Wilding Out versus Chicago, wilding Out
versus Brooklyn wilding out versus Miami wilding.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Out versus Texas.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
You know, so everybody's going to get their opportunity to audition.
So if you don't make it in this city, drive
to the next city.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh so this is like American idol s exactly. Have
you guys ever been to those tryouts?

Speaker 6 (15:32):
I mean I used to host this little show called
America's Got Talent. I know a little bit of a
little bit about you know that that type of show
in that process. So it's like we're taking all the
elements that I, you know, learned there and applying it
to wild'n out.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Now, do you guys have any favorite cities?

Speaker 7 (15:50):
Of course, I'm say New York all day long.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
That's he's the king of King of New York Comedy
and he's from Chicago, So I would say I gotta
go with Atlanta. Atlanta just has so many like funny
people like and so much talent. But just like there's
so many comedians that have come from in New York.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
We have too many ethnicities, We got too many funny
people have.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Different but we're gonna see on you can get any
of you can get. It's so much here. We're gonna
put a little wager together. We're gonna see on the
tour which city.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Is the hottest.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
It's always gonna be We're gonna have the best, best
talent and the best turnout.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
Well well, in all fairness, every time we done, whether
it's Atlanta, we did eighteen thousand people when we did
the while I'm not with them, we did the rich
On Kwant Tribute Weight we did twenty thousand people where
we did the BMS reunion with Rick Ross and yeah
uh Southwest Tea, Southwest Tea so, and then we came
to Parklety Center. We did a humongous activation every single time.

(16:44):
Plus we sold out the garden three weeks on a
Wednesday with twenty two thousand people. So I don't know
if I have to look at those numbers. They've they've
been just.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
Ripping the master of numbers and getting people getting butts
in the seats. So he knows what city turns up
the most.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
It's kind of because I would definitely say you gonna
stamp it to New York because I just did the
April Foods with Marlin Winz. Anybody. We did that whole
show that was seventeen thousand and we're gonna come back
to do another seventeen thousand, So it's gonna be New
York back to back within thirty two months of each other.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
So you're saying new York, you're saying Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Well, now you just convinced me that it's gonna be
New York. Mojoe Way, it's gonna be New York.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
So I'm not sure that I believe you guys when
you say you regret nobody ever, nobody can you never
regret one person that was on, Like not even Azilia
makes you weren't like, oh god, this.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Could well she was she was a guest, and I
mean that was a moment, you know what I mean?
Like that that was a classic wilding out moment, Like
we like we we make moments. So it's like, now,
there's probably some people that come on and you wanted
more from them and.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
Then they didn't do anything.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
I was a waste of time, But it's just because
they were scared or you know, wilding out is intimidating,
so sometimes people clam up, but we still make a
good show out of it.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
So when you say it's a moment, are you a
person who thinks all press is good press or do
you think sometimes damn it?

Speaker 5 (18:00):
I regret that.

Speaker 6 (18:02):
That's a good question when it comes to me, because
I understand how to play the game. So if my
goal is to be controversial or get attention, then yeah,
all press is good press. But if i'm if it's
literally something where I'm not trying to do that and
based off of something I said on or off camera,

(18:23):
that press isn't good press, because then that process is like, man,
then I have to go and explain myself, which you
never want to do as a comedian or even as
somebody who stands on business.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
But you know, if you end up hurting.

Speaker 6 (18:35):
Somebody or saying something like damn it, I didn't, that's
that wasn't my intention. Now, if I'm talking shit and
it's my attention, yeah, let's talk all the shit and
create all the drama we can. But I've definitely been
in many scenarios where it's like I misspoke about something
like damn it, I shouldn't have said that.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
But the fact that I could still be.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Resilient, and you know, one the people who love me
know my heart, and then the people who don't are
are now introduced into my character. That I'm stand tantes
down on whatever I said.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Can you think of a specific moment that you're like,
damn that did not go out out the way I
wanted it to.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
I mean, shoot, I got one every week.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Recent let's get into it.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
Probably the thing with my teenage daughter, like where I
was just trying to say I'm super protective over her
and like love you know my daughter and don't want
her dayton, but you know she has a twin brother
that I'm not as overprotective of him. And it's just
I was really trying to express my love for my
daughter when everybody was like, oh, he's a double standard dad,

(19:37):
Like no, I'm just saying I don't. I might have
to kill some little boy if he put his hands
on my daughter. So that's probably like the last thing
that went viral that was like a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
That's not so bad in the grand scheme of bad.
What about you?

Speaker 6 (19:51):
He said something crazy every night he's on stage.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
He ain't been canceled yet.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's why, Okay, so canceling. He's told me we'll get
you canceled today. I will ask for something. Don't worry
press wise, I mean to say no, regards, that's great,
but now the way that social media moves, it's such

(20:17):
a huge, living, breathing thing that is part of what
all of us do. And next to your point, people
take a SoundBite of something or just a quick clip
and that goes everywhere, but the explanation and the retraction,
if there is a retraction, which rip has none of.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
That never the same impact.

Speaker 7 (20:33):
Yes, I guess once the whole my wife, the whole
thing came out and the hospital came out, I've never
exposed my life, so once that came out, that was
like my biggest fear type thing. So when that came
out in my life got exposed from going to the
hospital that it never went like that. Who knew that
thanking my fans like I had a heart attack and
I couldn't do my short to the pollow who knew
that thanking my fans and for to setting out the
apollo was such a short time and just apologizing everybody

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that came out that I wouldn't be there that night
and turned into this huge viral moment. And then what
happened when wife she leave me in the hospital that
I just didn't.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
Know that that would be a viral thing just so
you're very much saying that after your wife not coming
to the hospital and you almost died, went viral for
no reason, that's the reason.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
But it wasn't who would think that it was because
it was a comment.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
It was just like it was just a quick two
second thing, Like it was just a quick comment and
it was like, how was it like being in the hospital,
And I was like, well, this is you know, what
my journey was like. And I was kind of just
let people know. You know, it's been the toughest thing
and it's been tough trying to deal with it, and
that just one little snippet went super viral.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
That was all I was like, did she forgive you
for that?

Speaker 6 (21:34):
Forgive me for what?

Speaker 8 (21:35):
For me?

Speaker 7 (21:35):
In the hospital?

Speaker 4 (21:37):
You she was the bad person.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
It's like, you're still a little bitter about this.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
She forgive me.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Y'all work it out. We got a show called kind
of Married that's on YouTube. It's talking about all that Mary.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
So that's going to be tough though, because it's not
just you guys anymore that gets dragged into everything. It's
your family, it's your friends, it's whomever is around you
that catches astrays when this kind of stuff happens, and
I would imagine Nick for you with baby mama's and babies,
it has to be constant.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
Well, I mean that's why you you have to control
your own story, especially when you want to be authentic,
because there's so much false narratives in social media because
it's clickbaited. So I think there's power in saying, look,
I'm an open book. I've always been open book my
entire career, and even you know, if I live a
non traditional lifestyle, at least I can be like, look,

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this is what it is.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
You know, take it or leave it, like it to
love it. There's power and authenticity.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
And when you're not trying to shy away from anything,
where you're not running from questions and interviews where you
get to the point before the person can even ask you,
you're like, look it's on my show where I talked
about it in my book, or I covered that in
my own podcast, and it makes it like, oh, this
is somebody that I can relate to because they're not
trying to play, you know, the Hollywood entertainment game.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I do appreciate that. Before you guys, get got here,
I did not get a do not ask list from you?
That's great.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Always start crazy and they like talking about this.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Well.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I was recently I read something online. I thought it
was great that the more shame you feel, the more
you tend to judge other people. And I think it's
so true, and it's funny to me how so many
people who want to align with LGBTQ rights and that's great,
have a whole lot of shit to say about you
and the life that you're living. To me, it's it's
all the same.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
What a point.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
I'm trying to say that point before, but people don't
want to listen. But that I've made that point many times,
because we can't judge one lifestyle and not judge another.
And like you just my goal is like, as long
as you ain't hurt nobody lived the life that you
want to live and embrace you know, whatever life style
that is. But to your point, I think what Oscar

(24:03):
Wow had a great quote that you know, criticism is
often an autobiography, So really people are just projecting their
own pain onto your.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Experience, right, And I think you know, back to that,
if I genuinely do not care what people are doing
in their bedroom, right, doesn't impact me at all, has
nothing to do with your life, have a good time whatever.
As long as you're not hurting anybody, that's fine. What
do you say to people who say, maybe you are
hurting somebody because you're not being able to be there
for all your kids at the same time, That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
That's projecting their own pain, their own experience with their
father because they don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
And I often, you know, I joke about it.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
I was like, all right, well, let's I'll see you
in eighteen years and we'll take my kids versus your kids.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Let's see who's better off.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
But I joke like that.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
But then at the same time, the only people that
I am held accountable to are my children. So it's
like I could care less with anybody else. Thinks now,
if my kids come to me in eighteen years and say, hey, Dad,
you know I wish you would have.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Been here for this?

Speaker 6 (25:05):
Are this all all the things that you know, every
parent has to have those conversations, you know, with their
with their kids when they get older. I I welcome
those conversations because I know I'm doing my best in
that aspect. So everybody else's o pigions, Like you know,
that's that's other people's that's nothing to do with my energy.

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I value the energy within my household. And and those
are the people that I'm concerned how they feel and
what they say.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
On a scale of one to ten, How tired are
you of talking about this?

Speaker 5 (25:35):
I'm not. It's my life.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Like I'm like, yeah, so I love talking about it,
and I mean I do. I'm deep into therapy. And
you know, I go to therapy three times a week.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
So and it's wrong with you a lot, can't you tell?

Speaker 6 (25:49):
No?

Speaker 5 (25:49):
But in that systemy and like you know, it's different aspects.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
I'm as you know, one on one personal therapy, I'm
as you know, a couple's therapies is family therapy, like
so in that I enjoy talking about the things that
others may not talk about it. And like, before you
get into therapy, you're closed up, you're not used to it.
But once you get into that practice of working through
things and utilizing the tools that are available to you

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to kind of work through whether it's childhood trauma or
whether it's issues that you're currently going through, you you
can't wait to talk about it because you're like, look,
I'm a work in progress.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
I'm I may not have it all right.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
You know, like even through this process, like I've been
diagnosed with MPD and you know, understanding with like being
a narcissist and all of that type of stuff is
like a lot of people have never heard of these
things or heard of this process. But for somebody who's
going through it and walking through it and hopefully going
to be on the other end and have so much
growth through it, you want to talk about it.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
You want to share it.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
So I love talking about especially my family, Like I
love like getting to talk about you know, all my
different children and you know they're different stages and you
know even sometimes are challenges and our breakthroughs, Like all
of that stuff is amazing.

Speaker 7 (27:03):
Therapy right now, I didn't know you had D not ed.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
That's why.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
That's the one thing I don't have.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Control.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
So when you're going through therapy and they hit you
with the UNPD thing, which is i'm assuming narcissist personality disorder,
do you think did you think you had those characteristic?

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Women had been calling me a narcissist all my life,
So I was like, what is this?

Speaker 6 (27:39):
Well, this track yeah, but see like they weaponize it
opposed to like, if you think about it, you know,
the world wouldn't be what it is without narcissists. Some
of your favorite people are narcissist, whether we talk talk
about Michael Jordan or Steve Jobs, like all of these
people like want to be the best, believe that they're
the best, and could care less about what you're going

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through because they have a goal and a mission at hand.
So you you know, it's on a spectrum obviously, and
you know when you get to the spaces like rage
and you know, the lack of empathy, those things need
to be worked through. But a lot of the other
qualities when it comes to MPD or like things that
show that you value yourself, show that you love yourself.
Now you might love yourself more than.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Others, and I don't see there's anything wrong with it.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
Like, you know, really where the word comes from is
from the story of narcissists or you know, the narcissists
or narcissisists or however you say his name, you know
what it is.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
It's a it's an actual tell.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
Know, there's a tale of a man who loved he
loved his his image of himself so much that he
killed him you know what I mean. He just literally
stared at his reflection and just was in love with
it and didn't want to move, And you know mythology.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
But in that sense, probably the majority of people in
entertainment have a touch of one.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
It's funny that one of my psychologists said that he
was like the fact, he was like, I applaud you
because there's so many people in your field that have
exactly what you have, but either hide behind it or
will never admit it because it has been so weaponized
and looked at as a bad thing. But every artist has,
you know, narcissistic tendencies because they want to be the best,

(29:25):
and they want to they want the world to accept them,
and they want the admiration for their art.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Well, I think if if you're making art and you
think it's good enough to put out there and have
people critique, there is something about that that.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Is a little self self serving.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, like I think I'm so good listening to my podcast.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Yeah, yeah, you're definitely a narcissist.

Speaker 7 (29:43):
I don't I don't see myself ever looking dancing in
the mirror like.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
You are narcissist. You think you're amazing. Who's a better
comic than you? Better comic than me. There's a lot
of people that's way better than me. In comedian you
talked about.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
He thinks he's the greatest, especially when it comes to
crowd work.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Crowd work, are you being cute? Because we're recording this
right now, you can.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Said one, he is one of the greatest crowd work ever.
That's nice and he knows it, So.

Speaker 7 (30:14):
I guess I think that the biggest complements. When dal
Hugeley told me that when we at the Barkelet Center
and doo huge.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
League, because sounds he's name dropping, I didn't know myself
in that in that light until because de Hugley is
one of the to me, my favorite comedity of all time.

Speaker 7 (30:30):
So when do huge Lee, we were doing the Barketing
Center and everybody wasn't doing that good. I was like, no,
these people are disrespecting my crowd. So I went out
there and I just just throwing the whole crowd and
everybody and then deals like I've never seen anyone do
crowdworking front of sixteen thousand people and make them stand
up and then bring He's like, you are the like
the best CrowdWork I ever seen. I was like, really,
I was like, because you guys are phenomenal at it,

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Like I grew up watching d O do that. Like
So to hear that that's that's like impressive to because
my only goal in comedy was to be on death
comedy gym.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
I thought that was it.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
So you heard it from them? Do you believe it?
Dear No, I do not see.

Speaker 7 (31:03):
For him to be one of the kings to come
and tell me that. I still to this day hold
that down.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
So you're a narcissist.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
That makes me.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Take someone else camming someone else coming that you're the best,
the greatest, even do it.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
I never seated.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
Coming.

Speaker 7 (31:18):
I love crowd validations with the crowd. That's my biggest thing.
Like I'll switch my jokes about doing it. I love
seeing the crowd uh enjoyed themselves. That's what my biggest
drive is. To see them laugh, to see people come
in from different races, to see people who have horrible
days and who going through a whole bunch of So
you'll see my fan base. It will be people that
have never been to a comedy show in their entire life,
or just got out of jail or just going through
a divorce or whatever, just came with a spending license,

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and you'll see them and to see them actually laugh
and enjoy themselves.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
That's what I do for so pretty much. You're performing
in front of convicts. Pretty much, got it? We all
do it. It happens, get demographic and criminals.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Everybody deserves me. You a't want these perfect.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
People, but theravist is listening to us like these people
are wrong about everything everything. I have no idea what's
going on. So you just said you like crowd validation?
Who doesn't? If you're performing, right, you always want that.
Do you feel the same about social media? Do you
feel like you do things to perform for strangers? Essentially?
I mean, I guess the crowd is strangers anyway.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
No, I'm not a big social media person. No, this
my stuff is No. Actually then I've never really gotten
into it as much as I was supposed to. But
I've always done real shows, Like people on my page
actually buy tickets for me, They actually come out and
drove to see me, like every person that I have.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
So I've never really he was born in the nineteen hundreds.
I've never done any so he does he doesn't even
know how to use.

Speaker 7 (32:40):
I'd rather be, don't. I don't get the same feeling
from a thousand likes versus ten thousand people screaming in
the arena.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
I don't feel the same the same energy. I don't
want my page that you're limited.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
A look at the look at these shares.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Because it's someone healthy to be that way.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
It's so unhealthy to be what I will sit outside
and the arena like Frank Luken's doing with his product,
enjoying it.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
The brand name.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Does it make a difference to you.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
I'm performative, so like like everything I do, I'm doing
it for you know, validation, like I jumping up that's
literally one of the symptoms of MPD, but IPD, that's
what it is in Yeah, I'm like my mouse person

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no narcissistic personality, but I do know I'm just at nature.
I've been performative since I was a kid, like in
church at four years old, like just always like attention
seeking behavior was my thing. So even though like I'm
somewhat mastered social media since you know, got on it
back in the my Space days and stuff, so I

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know how to separate, Like you can't offend me you
can't hurt my feelings. Like in the early days of
social media, I don't know, find this person's address because
they said this is about my mama like that.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Sometimes I still do that.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
I stopped doing that, like when Twitter came out, like
two thousand and nine. I was the last time I
chased somebody off from the internet.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Two thousand and nine. Jesus for you.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
So but like now it's all entertainment. It's validation. I'm like,
thank you for your energy, thank you for showing up
to the show. You know, however you felt about it,
I can care less. You're here, You're on my page.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Because I'm like, you can take that energy and shove
it right up here.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
You're here.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
You there's something about me that I drew you here,
like and thank you, because that's validation because there's eight
billion people on the planet and.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
You fucking with me.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
It's a good way to look at it. Like you're
in the arena right and people are throwing tomatoes that
paid to come see you.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
You still got that, you still got their money.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
I don't do it for the validation come from me
seeing people laugh. I just like making people smile. Whatever.
I just something about seeing someone makes me feel like
a better person.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
They're serotonin and endorphins and Shane.

Speaker 7 (35:10):
Laughing, or they just don't forget it. It's just like
something like that. That's why I do.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Yeah, you get a hide from that. There's adrenaline.

Speaker 7 (35:16):
I make the person stay a little bit better. That's
that's that makes you feel good.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Do you have kids? How many kids do you have?

Speaker 7 (35:22):
I have two?

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Now? Well, actually, because get married.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
You sound like meds.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Do you people have total?

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Between the two of us, we have a small village there,
you go, four kids?

Speaker 6 (35:34):
Yeah, I got Indian kids now, so we all congratulating
Indian kids like me.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Indian? Yes, his wife is Indian.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yes, nice. I bet she's amazing.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
She left him in the hospital.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
The woman she was probably like this dramatic pitch. You're fine,
get up. Have a family of doctors. You're gonna be okay,
not the doctors, that's funny, know, No, okay from the
different side of India.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Ain't no doctors over there.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Okay, So you have four, Nick, you have twelve? Do
you have a favorite child?

Speaker 5 (36:12):
That's impossible. You don't have children.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I don't because you know that's not that's not possible.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
They probably just said that to piss you up because
or to get you to react because you can't have
a favorite child.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
I meet parents all the time because I ask this
question all the time, who are like, yeah, I'm not
going to say which one it is, but yeah, I
have a favorite kid.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
I don't love a favorite all of my kids equally,
like no, like they're all amazing, Like that's the thing, Like,
it's I miss all of them. They're attributes and the
things that are like cute, like every one of them
has something different, like, but I'm a variety type of guy, Clearmazon,

(36:50):
I like a Schmortgish boy.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Everything can get all all the flavors.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
You don't have a favorite kid, see, at least he's
thinking about it.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
A favorite kid you're old, is your first, not a
favorite kid. Someone kept the term so you love because
if it's measured by love, you love them.

Speaker 7 (37:20):
Everybody has something different.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
But you can love people equally, right and like like
one a little more.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
No, that's true.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
I feel that way about relationships, I bet, but because
there's definitely a big difference between like and love. But
with your children, it's it's all love, Like it's not
even you don't even have to like like doesn't even
come into play when it comes to your kids. Maybe
when they get maybe when they become adults. And there's

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one talking yeah, and there's like one that I might
hang out with more than others, but we're not at
that stage yet. Like it's like everybody's kids and I
love them all equally.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Okay, So both of your favorite part about being a dad,
because Father's Day is coming.

Speaker 7 (37:58):
Up, Yes, alladay is coming up. My favorite part of
being a dad is I guess I got to raise
my daughter by myself. I guess that was my favorite
part of being that. Like when she was little, I
me and my daugh and she was like a year
and a half, like almost two years old. For the
first time, I didn't know I had a kid. My
mom was like, hey, some girl not going the door. Baby.
They kind of dropped like baby got to look like
you kind of looked like it. And I looked at

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her hands and I was like, oh, these are my hands,
but my baby, mama like fat fingers. I don't know
if that's my hands exactly, some type of fingers. But
when I met my daughter, she was I didn't know.
So I had to get a test and everything. So
I think that and then I ended up getting full
custdy in my daughter.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
And I raised my completely by herself. I lived in
New York the entire time my mother lived online. She
probably saw my mother like two or three times her
entire life. So I think that I got me such
a close relationship with my daughter so I didn't have
to go back and forth. And you know, I think
that was my best part of being a dad is
getting getting an opportunity to be there for everything, for
every peer.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
And teacher thing.

Speaker 7 (38:54):
I go through everything from her first period to every
single thing, just being that.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
That was a lot.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
That was a lot.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah, you could have kept out, dude, you it's traumatic.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
It was.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
You're like that, I'm bleeting. I'm like, stop thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
I talk to my dad about my period of my.

Speaker 9 (39:13):
Life, like we did all that my daughter first growing underwear,
and like, oh, that's just that type of relationship we
had and we went through it with such a closeness
like that that that would be my favorite party in
that beginning to actually be a full active father the
entire time of her life.

Speaker 7 (39:26):
And then for her to appreciate it. Like when I
was on my dad, but she came every day she
was he was dad. I appreciate everything you've done and
just seeing her to grow up and blossom into this.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Person, it's like, wow, No, so you do have a
favorite kid.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
It's not a favorite, that's not a fair. What's my
best part about being a dad?

Speaker 7 (39:41):
That being an actual dad Because a lot of time
you have dads and say I'm a full time dad,
know when you're actually a full time dead verse in
every single thing, Like it was just me and her,
So that just I don't know, just that.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
Was my favorite part.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
That's kind of old is she now?

Speaker 7 (39:53):
She is twenty three years old and she is in
med school?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
So hey, you're sure she's not Indian?

Speaker 5 (39:59):
This one?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
It kind of seems like it all right.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Mine isn't as deep.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
My My favorite part is when you pick them up
from school and they run into your arms like daddy,
Like there's no greater feeling in that, like just them
missing you and likes that's that's the best moment. That
reminds you like, oh wow, I'm always gonna remember these
moments and I think they always will too.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
That's nice. I'm trying to think if I did that
with my dad, I did it. Thought always his favorite,
by the way, until we got older, and now my
sister's his favorite.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
Maybe you can switch up, that's possible. Yeah, like you
were my favorite for this summer.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, I get what doesn't my dad on me at
this point? Okay, so you have a show coming out
on Netflix too, right, I do What is this going
to be about?

Speaker 5 (40:48):
Covering all the stuff that we're talking about?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Oh, so we just don't need to do this podcast.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Watch it. Just watch it. You'll get all these answers.

Speaker 6 (40:55):
Like me going through, you know, life and trying to
be the best father I can possibly be dealing with
twelve children by six different mothers.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
And you know, it's a it's a it's real, it's authentic.
You know.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
I think it's going to be different than what people expect.
You know what I mean, because I think people have
been speculating about my life for quite some time. They're
fascinated by so many different things, it's like, and then
so they create these narratives that I don't know why,
but I'm like, I might as well just give it
to you raw and real.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
That's what I do best.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
You've done that a lot, Yes, enough time, Raw and
real and deep already.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
I go deep, I want to take mom, I don't
want to.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
What do you do? How many have you already saw it?
It's done?

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Okay. Do you have any any creative control over it,
like editing?

Speaker 6 (41:59):
No? I purposely didn't want any because I wanted to
be real and authentic. Okay, And I think that's even
what Netflix wanted. Obviously, I have a production company. I
could have produced it myself and you know, but I
wanted to give the filmmakers an opportunity to tell the
story as authentically as possible from the outside, so it
doesn't come off as like, you know, a puff piece

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or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
It's just like giving you the real That's what.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Steve Jobs did right with his autobiography. It's like, I
don't want to look at it, just write about me whatever, and.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
There be an autobiography if you didn't write it though, No,
just a biography.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
It was just a biography.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
That was my mistake. But yeah, his biography, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
That it was just I mean, if it came from
the perspective of like his daughter and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
So that's the thing I think.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
One again, going back to therapy, when you get real perspectives,
then that actually gives you your own growth, because if
you just keep telling yourself that you're great, like narcissists do,
then you don't actually really get to elevate. So hopefully
it tells an authentic story and you know, the good
is the good and then I can learn from the bad.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Is this gonna be a one season thing?

Speaker 6 (43:09):
Or hopefully it's a multi I got a lot of kids.
They got a lot of You can't cover all of
that in one season. You're gonna have to be at
least six seasons to cover twelve kids fair enough.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
And you, I'm assuming the kids are a part of it.
You get to see them. You don't have a problem
with people seeing your kids.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
I mean, I think at this day and that always
bugs me out to like when people, like especially people
in the public eye, like they blurred their babies faces
and stuff like that, Like, first of all, it's a baby,
he ain't gonna look like that for a couple of months.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
So I have so many people who do it too.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
I don't understand that.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
I like, they're good, especially in this day and age
with social media and you already taking pictures of your
kids like they're gonna see you.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
If they see you, they look just like you. If
I want your kids, I'm gonna go to the school
like what and look like Tom Cruise. That's the what
I'm looking for, Tom Cruise.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
So do I I think I know a lot of
people are gonna be mad at me about this. I
sort of think the blurring of the baby's faces is,
to your point, a little performative, because you're right, people
are gonna see your kid walking down the street.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Kid more important than all the other kids.

Speaker 7 (44:20):
The face kids go to private there not getting bullied
in New York PS one fifty three.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
I see your dad last night.

Speaker 8 (44:28):
Your dad get it together, can fight? You got that issue, buddy.
None of your schools got PS in the front, having
community and everything.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Did you go to a PS? No, you went to
private school. Diamond was also a jitterbrug kid. She probably Wow,
she learned a lot of really cool dances. So she no,
she didn't go me Yeah the public school? Yeah. Yeah.
What do I come across as a private school kid?

Speaker 7 (44:57):
Yeah not at all.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
I've been you said, you said.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
Yes, hy, yes, just because you have the private school. Aura, No,
she can because you're a narcissist.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
That's why this is getting hurtful. It was supposed to
be one way. I appreciate it. So I went to
public school my whole life and then Ohio States. But
when it comes to your kids, how protective of you
of them? Are you when it comes to stuff because
you're saying, I'm gonna put it out there? Do you
put it out there too?

Speaker 7 (45:24):
In one way?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Like their faces? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (45:27):
Now, But at first I did not because my daughter,
I don't want to be Christy literally ms like in
ps is her own entire life. So I didn't want
to put her in that, and she didn't want that, Okay,
so she didn't want that, So that was something she
didn't even want to be exposed to at all. She
wanted just a normal life and whatever whatever.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
But I think the world is different from those days
where like every kid has a phone and they're posting
their public life on the internet.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
There's no so if your kid got a phone.

Speaker 7 (45:53):
She don't even She don't do that though.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
She never post pictures herself that she don't have social media.
She do, but she just watches TikTok video. She don't
want to post.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
She want to be This is funny, Look, she's a lurker.
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
She's just that type of private kid that has never
been her thing.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
But I get that, Like maybe you don't want the kids,
didn't make the choice to, you know, so you're gonna
cover them up.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
But like, again, you're my.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
Kids, so you don't have to saying this. Cameras, cameras
don't be around your whole life. Get in Nick Jackson,
Papa Joe saying.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Michael, wait, so you got into the business when you
were how old?

Speaker 5 (46:33):
I mean professionally.

Speaker 6 (46:35):
I started doing stand up when I was about eleven, uh,
and I was getting paid to do it and like
like booked the clubs and stuff by the time I
was fifteen.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
What about you?

Speaker 6 (46:45):
I was fourteen when I started doing so trying to
already eleven. I was fourteen, and I used to do
all jokes aside and dying quarter that's cago.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
Would you let your kids do it comedy?

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (47:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Is there anything professional wise you don't want your kids
to do?

Speaker 6 (47:04):
Not not me?

Speaker 7 (47:05):
I think, I think take me back. I would say
she threw me because she's been inmate her whole life.
And then she's like really and then she got like
seven years old. She came home one day, She's like, Dad,
I was in the match and I got choked. I
love being choked, and I didn't know how.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
To take it.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
I know how to take that.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
I was like, man, just like your mama. She like,
I was getting choked. I was going I was, I
was blaking out, but I loved it. It just made
me even more stronger.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
I was like, she's a warrior.

Speaker 7 (47:29):
This is this is weird. I don't know how to
process this information.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
But then, can your daughter beat you up a thousand?

Speaker 6 (47:36):
My daughter is so nice.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
She's nice with the m m A nice with you,
really super nice.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
With it, like when she was a kid, like super
nice with but she chose not to like pursue it.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Now she's gonna save lives instead of that's a better choice. Yeah,
what about you? Your kids can do anything.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
As long as it's safe, and you know, do whatever
makes you happy.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Do you feel like Hollywood is safe?

Speaker 6 (47:58):
That's what I'm saying, Like I would death if they
chose entertainment. I would police it quite a bit, you know,
And I think that's you know, that's what most as
I think a lot of those stage moms and they
get a bad rap because I think they are ultimately
attempting to do what's best for their children, and they're
trying to be protective. It's just sometimes you know, it

(48:20):
gets a little obsessive. But I think the goal is
especially somebody who's been through it, who started young and
saw it, like I can help guide you know what
to do, because the one of the biggest issues is
children being the bread winner and the hierarchy shifts. They
wouldn't have that problem obviously in my household, so I

(48:44):
could actually, you know, you could do you could do
entertainment for the love of the art. I think all
children who do it for the love of the art.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
End up fine. People.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
When it's like, yo, my child is a business, that's
when you know, the lines get blurred a little bit.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Okay. Do you feel like Hollywood has changed from the
time that you guys were younger to what it is now.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
It's better and it's more accessible, And that's just because
it used to be this, you know, almost like this
secret club this and you had to know who you
know and all, which I think where a lot of
the darkness probably lied to where now it's been democratized
with like social media and digital and chaine. So like
you can literally make millions of dollars from your home,

(49:30):
you know, the whole family, like just based off of
you could be one of those YouTube families or kid
that's unboxing and you're making twenty million dollars a year
and you still get to be all the things. But
you're not you know, you're not breaking child labor laws
or you're not you know, like having to go get
rejected into casting several times before you get one job.

(49:51):
So I think the beautiful thing about what social media
has done for entertainment, it's.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Removed a lot of that darkness.

Speaker 6 (49:57):
I think the space that media is in today is
very healthy for young people, especially if the parents are involved.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
It's nice that this is how it goes, because you
don't want to be the person that makes it then
pulls up the rope ladder. That's shitty. You want to
be able to do it. But that thing is to
me like akin to now there's all these weed dispensaries everywhere,
and no kid has to meet someone behind a dumpster
to get weed. There's no struggle. Yeah, are they going
to be okay? Just being able to slide right into
it no struggle whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
I don't think struggle makes you a better artist.

Speaker 6 (50:27):
You don't think so, nah, I think dedication to your
gift sometimes struggle comes along with that. But if you're
just dedicated to your craft, it's like it's like, you know, athletics,
like sports, there's some people that went through the struggle
that you know, we saw Lebron go through the struggle,
you know, but Michael Jordan didn't go through the struggle,

(50:47):
you know what I mean, Like he both his parents,
great family, you know, like it's it's what drives you.
It's like Kobe didn't go through the struggle, you know
what I mean, his dad was in the NBA. You know.
But so in that sense, it's like how bad do
you want it? Nobody wanted it more, you know, badly
than Kobe Bryant. Like he was training at five in
the morning, like he had to get that work at

(51:08):
it from somewhere and it wasn't because you know, he
was living on the cold streets of Philadelphia. It was
just like, yo, he he really wanted to be the best.
So in that sense, you don't have to have the
struggle when it comes to art. Now, in other aspects,
in various other careers possibly, But if you're really just
working off the gifts that God gave you, it's just like,
all right, how well are you going to hone that in?

(51:29):
How well you're gonna perfect it? And that's up to you.
That doesn't have to be with struggle.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Again, a healthy way to look at it, I try, it's.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Just a little bit.

Speaker 7 (51:38):
I think the struggle. You can definitely see the difference
in people who go through the struggle with people who don't.
I think you are you can always carry see who
carries it and who wears it, and who came through
the fire.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
He just walk with it different or a different essence.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
It's called trauma.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
But I think because I've seen it on both sides,
so as somebody who did come up through the struggle
and didn't have anything coming, I don't think that makes
my journey any more significant.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Now.

Speaker 6 (52:07):
To Rip's point, though, I do believe that, like personality
traits outside of your career, a lot of that. Like
I think you do appreciate when you didn't have anything.
When you do have something, you appreciate.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
That aspect more so. Your outlook on life may be different.

Speaker 6 (52:25):
But I don't think that has anything to do with
what type of athlete, artists you know, that type of
person you are.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
I think that just that just comes from how you
were raised.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
I think resilience has a lot.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
Resilient and how you pick yourself up. I think that's
the biggest Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like we all
have to be resilient at some time, regardless of you're
born with a silver spoon in your mouth, like we
all are going through.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Some people are better at it than other people. And
I think a little bit of that does come from
a struggle. Like you knock to get back up? Do
you ever knock a rich kid over?

Speaker 5 (52:56):
I means got problems to this is rip kids got.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
But if you notice, the private school kids a lot
of times have a more difficult life than the kids
who grow up in the struggle because of not having
the access to your parents the way you want to
or whatever, having too much access to things that you know.
It's almost like what does your family value? That's the
thing like and whatever you define your family to be.

(53:25):
Because some people have everything and they don't value that everything,
so therefore they grow up a certain way and some
people have nothing and they so I think it's just like,
what are the core values that you have and that
could come with struggle or without struggle.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
With you guys are very healthy about these things. You
got to get out there and fight for it.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
We talk.

Speaker 6 (53:45):
We don't talk like this on stage, though we talk
shit on stage. This is very just evolved conversation. You're
talking about school bus jacket.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
This is going too deep. None of this shit is funny.
We need to get back there like them.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Kids, fun facts. We're talking about the school bus and
you going to public school. I actually did ride the
short bus for my entire like middle school.

Speaker 6 (54:15):
Now because what Nick was saying in the lobby, No,
because now, because this is the question, because I rode
the short bus. But it wasn't because I was special.
It was because my school couldn't afford a big bus,
so that all the buses was little bitty buses. And
they thought the kids in the neighborhoods like, that's why
you ride the short But because of my school, I
got no money for.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
A big bus.

Speaker 7 (54:37):
I thought you were saying you traded a helmet for.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
A Hey, I did. I was diagnosed with quite a
few things in school coming up, But yeah, I got
I got out of school earlier. I got out of
school earlier than everybody.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
You were in Yeah, other kids in English.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
Again, we had recess by myself, a.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Lot of this making sense. No, are you guys still
doing You're still touring right, doing live shows.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
That's why we're here.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
You're not just here. This got weird.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
I had no way to wear my jacket to hilarious.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
How people get tickets if they want to come see it.

Speaker 7 (55:21):
Would not live tour dot com. So it's just and
this is like probably gonna be the wild steroids. Nicks
revamped the entire things, so you're gonna see things that's
never been done. It's like a huge universe just versus
and it's always been that. Like you're gonna see Charleston
White and Booty go at it. You're gonna see Soldier Boy,
you go at it. You're gonna see it, just a
lot of people going at it. It's just like it's
gonna be this huge thing. We're just back and forth.
That's a healthy place where you could battle. You got

(55:43):
to be come here and battle right here. We got
things that you could do and formats when you can
battle the healthy way. So I think that's just gonna be.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
There's nobody that you guys would be like, you're a
little too unhinged to be here on this plan.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
Not one person, not one poll let anybody. If Nick could,
he put Biggie and Tupac.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
So you got you named a few people. Are there
more special guests that people can expect to pop up
on this time?

Speaker 7 (56:08):
This is already well, young your may Fab. It's just
the whole list of so many people. Like the last
time we were in New York, we did in the
Garden and when I say every single person from a
Boogie to Bust and Rhymes to Fab to Jim Jones,
the camera everybody was in the whole.

Speaker 6 (56:20):
Building was ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, I've been to two of the shows live and
it was great. You guys wouldn't say who your least
favorite person was. That's fine. Do you have a favorite
person somebody who just blew your mind when they came.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
On as a guest?

Speaker 6 (56:34):
Yeah, I mean Snoop is always amazing, you know what
I mean, to be the level that is, he's one
of the greatest ever do it. To have the goats
on is always cool. So I would say, like Snoop
is probably one of my favorites.

Speaker 7 (56:47):
I say, seeing Nick and keV go at it that
that oh yeah, Kevin, there's two sides to Nick, right,
So there's a friendly Nick.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
Right.

Speaker 7 (56:55):
So Nick is the most friendliest person on the show ever.
He'll give you something a light jet.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
It's to be like, hey, you say, let's have to
thank you for doing the show, and then he'll go and.

Speaker 7 (57:04):
Then they'll say something about nigga.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
But oh you want real Nick said, if you watch it,
DDG streams, oh no, no.

Speaker 7 (57:11):
Anytime Nick move his hands fast like this, that means
he got a whole bunch of stuff. But it's a person.
I know it takes jokes the best, but if you
bring it he he will destroy everything.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
I try to be kind to all the gas that
if you if you go there, okay, I can take
my jacket off. Now let's go to It's not a
person Nick has not bested on the show when they
bring it out.

Speaker 7 (57:31):
So if you really come from he be like, oh okay,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
He's undefeated, is what you're saying. Not one person, there's
not because there's a different side in it.

Speaker 7 (57:38):
He's he's playful to let you get your jokes on.
But if you really get serious, Nick will really really
get serious. And a lot of people don't realize that
about him, so they'll come in him. They will really
get him a jab. At least I get to see
my kids.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
And that's what he told.

Speaker 7 (57:52):
Niggas A left in the corner on some other stuff
and he's, oh, we're good, show me your last visitations.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Okay, superd you will have Diddy on.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
I mean he's a little occupied right now.

Speaker 7 (58:14):
While behind bars, Kelly idea, wll of.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
You can play build me out.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Prisoners have some arts inside, like so much Tory lanes.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
To the prison show.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
We put it together, wild and locked up. Yeah, oh
there you go behind the.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Documentary exactly shoot your shot, Tory, Not like that you
did the first who really got bars?

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Okay, when all the Diddy stuff came out, was any
part of you guys nervous at all?

Speaker 9 (58:52):
Not me?

Speaker 5 (58:53):
Was you nervous?

Speaker 7 (58:54):
Uh no, no, no, no, I knew. I knew all
that beforehand. Came out from close to it.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
That wasn't new news to him.

Speaker 7 (59:01):
I'm from New York, so that was definitely not no
new news. I think everybody who knew. People will miss
to see or anybody that.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Everybody to inside for me, No, everybody knew that, like already.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
I don't think we were saying the same thing. Anybody
who had a little bit of insight information in the industry,
they weren't shown. I don't know anything.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
What parties did you go to?

Speaker 1 (59:25):
I have heard these things for so long about him,
and there was fine, like it was smoke, smoke, smoke,
and then there was finally a little bit of fire,
and it's like, oh yeah, okay. I think the moment
the tape, I saw part of it. I didn't see all.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
What did you think? I haven't seen it. I think
I would.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
I see it?

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Did it?

Speaker 9 (59:42):
Has it?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Twitter?

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Twitter is where you will see it.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
I don't move like so it's just you can see
the whole thing. Is it good?

Speaker 4 (59:49):
I swear on my mama, I ain't seen it.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Is it good? What would goold be?

Speaker 6 (59:54):
I mean, because it sounds like the the young lady
is embracing what it is, right, Yeah, like he's not
ashamed of anything that's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
No, it looks like it was everybody having a good time, consenting,
being together, and whatever you know is happening. That's not
any of the shocking stuff. I think the shocking thing
was really just sort of got to like get a
little glimpse of what he was working with, and then
everyone's like, no, this makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
I definitely don't want to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
That's funny, every guys, I don't want to see that.
But let me tell you this. When that Time We
Leave video came out. I don't know if you guys
remember it, he was like with Pam No, it was
another one. It was within the last Yeah, like in
like seven.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
Years, he's showing that thing. Oh Fadi he was And all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
The girls, the women here were like, I don't really
give a shit about this video. All the guys were like,
you got to see this video.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
This is crazy video.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
That was just a big penis on display.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
But that like that's kind of been the like they
made a movie about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
It, so like they did. But it's funny because all
the guys when you say like, oh, it's a little dick,
they're like, oh my god, ew, I'm not looking at you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:53):
Think guys are probably more interested big dicks. And that's
why you said, don't want to I have no interest
in seeing it at all you bid me to the
bus because I was about to hit you with that
same thing. It's like because you you have actually seen it.
I just don't have any interest. I don't have any

(01:01:14):
interest seeing no dicks.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Let's just make it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Clear cut, uncut. I don't want to see.

Speaker 7 (01:01:21):
None of it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
All right, link later, all right, guys, so you can
get it. Give me the website one more time?

Speaker 7 (01:01:29):
Oh we have that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
S what website are you sending them to?

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Wow, there's no videos on that. Tickets just tickets.

Speaker 7 (01:01:44):
Okay, So people can you can submit if you want
to be a cast member on why not? Do to
dot com too. You can submit your phone to be
a cast member and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Is it more successful to do it that way than
to slide into your d ms and send you guys stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
They're doing that too, and they know where cast and
they're just trying to get But the best way to
you know, get to the front.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
Of the lot is to do it the right way.
Go take your DM and be like look like here,
like look at this one.

Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
Yeah, because I don't really check my d ms like that,
especially if I don't follow you, I don't even see.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Him okay, fair enough. So coming up for you guys,
we have a cast and call the new season and
the live shows that are happening, and what's coming up
for you. Obviously we know the Netflix show.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
I mean so many things.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
I know you you have many titles. What are they?

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
What are they?

Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
Name? All the things that you do, Daddy, do you
that's that's the only one that really matters. But I mean,
I definitely obviously, I mean with a you said, no, okay,
nothing not what I hate.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
I hate you.

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
I thought you said okay.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
I thought I thought father, father.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I think I heard that too. You don't join it absolutely,
and I definitely heard d for that's what happened. No,
but really, you have like a million projects that you're
working on at any given moment, right.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
So right now, that's never nothing new.

Speaker 6 (01:03:07):
I mean, like obviously all the different podcasts that we
have that are you know, from Nick Cannon at Night
to We Playing Space, to Cannon's Class to the Daily Canon,
all of that stuff is always active and moving.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
All of the content that I do with my kids
on YouTube, you know, that's kind of been a priority
because I get to be super dad.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
That's a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
And then just you know all the shows that are
still working in number one, the mass singer and you
know all of that that good stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
So it's it's all active.

Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
But right now we focused on wild'n Out and that's
because that's my baby, that's my passion. So and giving
people opportunity to come out and become stars.

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
My podcast kind of sort of Mary my wife. That's
that's super funny.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
That's a real thing.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
Yeah, it's a real thing.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
Kind of sort of marriage, kind of marriage.

Speaker 6 (01:03:57):
Hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
I didn't gonna go check this out.

Speaker 6 (01:03:59):
You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. You got
to see.

Speaker 7 (01:04:00):
It's just a phenomenal thing. We go through the whole thing.
So it's like, uh, do you make it every episode?
You don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
It's been in the episodes, getting really traumatic, going through
a lot of different things.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
Health and she beats you up. I know, she put
your hands and put hands on you. That's if you
just worried.

Speaker 7 (01:04:21):
A couple of specials coming out that we did shot
a couple of vertical specials too. I just did a
City Winery special that's coming up. Did a huge too
with them, and that's coming out to and then going
on tour September with me and Marlon Wayanas and a
couple of other people.

Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
Uh so that coming in September.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
You guys are busy. Thank you for taking the time
to sit with me.

Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
Coming you're coming on stage.

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
That's what you said. She says she wanted to be
a while. You said you wrote it in your your
dreams vision on stage with us.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
I would love to, but I'm going to be in Italy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
That's that's it, you know, a little, Just move it
up a little and like as you are.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
You only coming ay time?

Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
One time, Nah, we'll be back now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Whatever the other time is, I would definitely be there
there it is you give me.

Speaker 7 (01:05:07):
That flower excuse and another time not when we have
a grudge eight years later.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
You have no idea the grudge, have no idea. Thank
you guys so much. You're awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
I apreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Okay, how'd you think that went?

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I don't know if I would feel comfortable calling myself
a narcissist over and over and over?

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Is that a narcissistic tendency? Though?

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Okay, I'm not a professional.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Okay, So you can attest to a couple of things
that happened. After this interview, they walked out. You and
I are talking. They sat here for quite a while
until their team was literally like, all right, all right,
you guys gotta get out of here, which I always love.
That's always fun. After they left and we're talking for
a couple of minutes, I kicked a chair because I

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completely forgot to ask him about all the Mega shit,
which annoyed me because I was like, get him back
in here. And then I asked you if you'd ask
his publicist to have them come back, which, let's be real,
probably not happening, but gave it a shot. However, it
was addressed, so that makes me happy. And I don't
like asking questions that everybody else has already asked, because
I just feel like they've already talked about it. He

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tries to say that it was taken out of context,
that he's not a MAGA person at all, that in fact,
he's in the exact opposite direction. He cares about the community,
He likes to compare himself to W. E. B.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Du Bois, and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
That it was all him just trying to find some
sort of common ground with Amber Rose. That was, you know, clipped. Unfortunately,
he was just saying the black people fucked with Trump
before Trump became President Trump, whether or not that's true.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Uhh, this is the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Remix because like, I can't take credit for that when
you laugh.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
Like him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Uh but like I'm gonna steal it too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Hello, Okay, so we might as well go on the
record and say shout out to DJ Clue. That's his thing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
But anyway, like instead of just saying, listen, I shouldn't
have said it, you guys don't whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Narcissistic hell. So like also, like what we're just gonna
use that as an excuse for shit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Now taken out of context? What do you mean? That
became the most popular as students. Social media popped onto
the scene. Everybody claimed blah blah blah, taken out of context.
Sometimes things are taken out of context. For sure, that
happened here with Jeff Probst.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
It really did.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Remember and the people from a survivor like the fandom
they secured that guy, and he was actually saying exactly
opposite of what the clip posted was saying. Long story short,
he was saying, isn't it interesting that women very rarely
are the fan favorite and chosen to make it all
the way through. He was only saying that because he

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went on to say women have a double standard. The
things that people accept for men, they do not accept
from women. If a woman is strategic, she's manipulative, and
people give her shit for that behavior. When the men
they applaud for that behavior. They left all that part
out of it, and they just said, isn't it interesting
that women don't ever really come in first or get
the fan favorite. So people try to say Jeff Propees

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hated women.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
That was not the case.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
That was taken out of context.

Speaker 7 (01:08:21):
It's sick.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
The vast majority of other things are probably not taken
out of context. We see it all the time. We
see the interview, we see the posts, and we're like, no,
that context is actually exactly where it should be.

Speaker 9 (01:08:32):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
So it's an easy thing to say. It doesn't mean
it's true. Do I still love Nick Cannon and Rip?

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
I think that they were really fun guys. I think
they know exactly who they are and what they're doing.
And then, because obviously we record the end of this
after the interview has been done, Rip's ass came to
work today and what did I see coming around the corner?
I saw him and I was like, rip, hey, what's up?
And some giant man who looks like he was hiding

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things behind his back, which never goes well for me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Right, what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
And Diamond has her phone out and she's recording, and
I was like, what is happening?

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
And what did he do?

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
He brought How many flowers are these? I think it's
two dozen? Maybe? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Is that jewelry?

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I don't know. There's like pearls and diamonds in here
that I like, flowers and then this bottle of champagne
that looks like a Tiffany box something.

Speaker 9 (01:09:32):
What is this?

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
I don't know? Should google?

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
I tried to google. I can't find anything.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
Weird.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Yeah, like I found that person. But it's called Giuvanni
Volpe Superior Sparkling and it's this beautiful box that like,
what am I gonna do with it? I'm gonna keep it,
but what do I do with it? You can put
like treasures in it. And he brought it around the
corner and he was like, I'm truly sorry if you
listen to the beginning of this episode, which I'm assuming
you did, because you're at the Endam it was about

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the ship, but I started with him in the beginning
and he followed through it. Now I feel really bad.
I don't want to pressure someone into like actually buying
me things.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
But now that I can start doing it to everyone,
I said to him, like, first of all, he stressed
me out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Why cortisol levels through the roof you and your cortssaulted me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Literally, he just he just was like downstairs in the
lobby for the longest, waiting for the guy to show
up with the flowers, and then like then the bottle
had to show up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
And so he's like, I'm downstairs and I go down
there and I'm like, hey, listen, babe, We're not playing
a waiting game.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
I gotta go back upstairs. So either you're bringing your
ass up now or because he has menses.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
To make with everyone, right, amends to make with everyone.
So like he's just I'm like, listen, we gotta do
this now. We have like a ten minute windows spin
it up. If you got to go back downstairs and
wait for people later do that, I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Well. It was very nice of him, and now I
feel bad, but I love my treasures that I have
in my box to put more treasures in. I need
to know what your definition of treasure to me, it's
like cool rock yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Oh you can actually just put that on your table.
Like you know how people do books books they're not
going to read. It's always books that they're not going
to read that annoys me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
You know, I look at people's books when I go
to their houses to see how many of them have
actually been read, because there's a clear difference between a
book that's been read and a book that's just sitting
there performatively. So I'll be looking at the tops of
books I check. Not a book read, that, not one
book read. Oh my god, what a good time. So

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Nick and Rip and Nick, you guys were great. I'm
really sad because they did invite me to be part
of their well now on stage show stage show. I
should say on a day that I'm not going to
be in town, what a freaking bummer.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Well next time, because now I feel like I have
to see you do this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
It's not even gonna be funny.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Oh I'm gonna bust out laughing.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
I also wanted to ask them because you know, I
have this comedy show that's coming up in September or
no in November, which I will give you many more
details about as the time comes closer. It's a live podcast.
But your girl's gonna do her stand up. I'm gonna try.

Speaker 7 (01:12:19):
Oh god, I'm nervous.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Everyone is telling me I need to get out and practice,
and I need to do like club gigs, like anonymously
just show up at open mics. I'm like, nah, we're
just gonna wing it. This'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
What could possibly go wrong? On narcissistic?

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Shut up diamond And on that note, if people want
to find you, where can they find you?

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
At diamonds? And on Instagram?

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
And are you still dumpster firing it over at thread?

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
I just like to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
It's like I'm a lurker on you know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
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We appreciate it. Leave us a talk back. We are
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episodes of Little Baby Things coming up, and I'm excited

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about them. We will give you more details. I think,
I promise. It's like so many two times.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
This time it's real.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
It's always been real, It's always been an idea. Sometimes
I feel like if I say the thing out loud,
then I have to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
Yeah, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Then I don't do it. Then I just am like
a flake. So this is actually happening. You're gonna get
more episodes of more things. One of them has a
really cool name, and I can't wait until we do
something with it. All we have right now is a
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